Adventures in Retrobrite - New techniques for restoring yellowed plastic!

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  • Опубликовано: 19 авг 2017
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    In this episode, I explore several new methods of restoring old, yellowed plastics back to their original color and beauty!

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  • @alice-pz1kf
    @alice-pz1kf 4 года назад +907

    Imagine walking into his house without context and just seeing computer keys cooking on the stovetop

    • @Martin-se3ij
      @Martin-se3ij 4 года назад +146

      you'd ask him for a byte

    • @kort4n120
      @kort4n120 4 года назад +30

      @@Martin-se3ij here take a random one
      01001010

    • @markdandeneau3404
      @markdandeneau3404 4 года назад +44

      Alphabet soup

    • @Martin-se3ij
      @Martin-se3ij 4 года назад +43

      too much of the key ingredient

    • @Kelvin5378
      @Kelvin5378 4 года назад +12

      A nutritious meal for the whole family

  • @LordPhobos6502
    @LordPhobos6502 5 лет назад +408

    Roughly 7:00 - 2 points to be made here. Ozone breaks down into regular oxygen pretty fast, roughly half an hour or so. So if you're serious about ozone, you need to keep that fresh supply coming.
    Point 2: overcast day is not gonna stop UV, UV punches through cloud like it's made of nothing.
    Clouds will stop IR, so you won't feel the heat, but the nastiest sunburn I ever had was on an overcast day. UV does whatever it wants, clouds be damned.

    • @mattelder1971
      @mattelder1971 5 лет назад +19

      I was going to make the same comment about UV light. He's made the same mistake in several videos.

    • @scottluther2091
      @scottluther2091 5 лет назад +14

      Exactly! That is why you can still get sunburned on a cloudy summer day in most areas!

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 5 лет назад +8

      Good to know! That explains why I could stay in the sun all day long for three consecutive days at a festival two weeks ago without getting a sunburn, but just got a nasty sunburn yesterday after working at a clubsport kartslalom race event, even though it was cloudy weather half of the day. I actually didn't know that, never got a sunburn on a cloudy day before...

    • @mattelder1971
      @mattelder1971 5 лет назад +7

      @@LRM12o8 Let me guess, you probably used a bunch of sunscreen at the festival but thought you didn't need any at the race?

    • @roflmatol
      @roflmatol 4 года назад +4

      Apparently you still get exposed to about 80% of the sun's UV radiation in a cloudy day

  • @narcoleptic8982
    @narcoleptic8982 4 года назад +461

    1990s Apple: "You can pretty much disassemble the entire thing without needing a screwdriver!"
    2010s Apple: "We glue our batteries in because fuck you, that's why."

    • @nioxic77
      @nioxic77 3 года назад +14

      I do believe the original "reason" for batteries being glued in, was that the replacable ones had lower capacity.
      they did it for the costumer - not their own pockets...
      similarly why they removed the headphone jack. "now there's more space for better tech/larger battery" - also, buy our new wireless headphones!

    • @marccawley2110
      @marccawley2110 3 года назад +3

      😂

    • @blueberry1c2
      @blueberry1c2 3 года назад +37

      1990s Apple: "No screws to remove!"
      2010s+ Apple: "No screws to remove!"

    • @thesegacampgamerandwerecam7504
      @thesegacampgamerandwerecam7504 2 года назад +1

      no 2010's Apple is "WE MADE SURE YOU CAN'T DISASSEMBLE OUR COMPUTER FOR PARTS BECAUSE FUCK YOU THAT'S WHY!"

    • @bobstevenson3130
      @bobstevenson3130 2 года назад +15

      2020s apple: opening our phones is punishable by death

  • @ObiWanBillKenobi
    @ObiWanBillKenobi 2 года назад +73

    A very obvious advantage that the ozone method has is that you maybe don’t have to disassemble the item to isolate the plastic parts, because you’re immersing it in a gas, not a liquid.

    • @yoursred
      @yoursred Год назад +1

      Genius

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 11 месяцев назад +4

      You could add some vinegar or better yet hydrochloric acid (aka Muriatic acid from Home Depot) in a 10:1 ratio (H2O2:acid) to activate the hydrogen peroxide molecule more, in which case UV is not required and works much better and faster. ;)

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@myketison9770- I use a couple of plastic teaspoons of 30% HCL (about 10 ml) for every liter of peroxide. It activates the peroxide, makes it work better and faster even without UV. Make sure to wear rubber gloves not just for the HCL but also the peroxide.

    • @adamb89
      @adamb89 9 месяцев назад +2

      I found this video with that very thought in mind actually. My thought was to get a clear plastic container, fill it full of ozone, then put the lid on and let it sit out in the sun for however many days it takes.

    • @ronpalmer1371
      @ronpalmer1371 3 месяца назад

      Can someone please explain what Salon care 40 is ? I’m in the UK and it’s not something I’ve ever seen, thanks 👍🏻

  • @mickblock
    @mickblock 6 лет назад +681

    Not many people know this but engine cleaner/degreaser also proves ineffective for cleaning or degreasing engines.

    • @cocksucker914
      @cocksucker914 5 лет назад +15

      XD

    • @agentsmith3577
      @agentsmith3577 4 года назад +17

      It's funny cuz it's true!

    • @Geisteskr4nk
      @Geisteskr4nk 4 года назад +10

      Coca Cola works pretty well. xD
      Except for Grease.

    • @Megatog615
      @Megatog615 4 года назад +5

      @@Geisteskr4nk can confirm my grandfather used it for years

    • @Geisteskr4nk
      @Geisteskr4nk 4 года назад

      @@Megatog615
      Used it mostly for the MG3 in the German Army xD
      But also handles other stuff. :)

  • @ScriptonicPipes
    @ScriptonicPipes 6 лет назад +1975

    Hey man I hope you see this but I think I have a very easy solution to scaling the heat treatment one. I use a sous vide machine for work. simple little thing, you plug it in, submerge it in water and set the temp. and it will heat and circulate the liquid. for the container go to a restaurant supply place and grab a "lexan container" they make em all the way up to 18"x26"x12" which should hold just about anything you could want to do. the container should be around $40 and a basic sous vide should be around $100 I hope this helps and I hope you see this!!!

    • @ricardosimoni2855
      @ricardosimoni2855 6 лет назад +62

      Scriptonic people, like this comment so the 8-it guy sees it

    • @forthwithtx5852
      @forthwithtx5852 6 лет назад +12

      There's a restaurant supply store on Alta Mere, near the traffic circle. They should have what you need.

    • @forthwithtx5852
      @forthwithtx5852 6 лет назад +8

      My bad. I guess it closed. There's an Ace Mart in Arlington, I think.

    • @emannuelmartinez
      @emannuelmartinez 6 лет назад +39

      yupppp, the only way to get water to be maintained at such a lower temperature for such a long time. The sous vide will definitely be his friend (and he can use it for a kick ass steak afterwards).

    • @satanismybrother
      @satanismybrother 6 лет назад +15

      Came here to say this! :)

  • @Rob-cs8bl
    @Rob-cs8bl Год назад +29

    13:50. Something to consider if you want to scale up due to the size of certain items for the heat Retrobrite technique, is to look into a sous vide portable device. Most of the 800w items have a temp range of +41 +212 Degree F or +5 +100 Degree C and all have inbuilt circulation pumps for up to approx 15L. Match that up with a large plastic container and you have yourself an awesome DIY Scaled up Heat Retrobriter
    EDIT: looks like quite a few people recommended this technique as well strolling through the comments

  • @leandrotami
    @leandrotami 5 лет назад +66

    What I like about the ozone method is that in some cases you wouldn't need to disassemble the gadget, which is good because sometimes it is risky and one might break it.

    • @SamnissArandeen
      @SamnissArandeen 4 года назад +7

      Yellowed, brominated plastic is also BRITTLE plastic, so you make a good point.

    • @andrew_koala2974
      @andrew_koala2974 Год назад

      Note that OZONE (TRI-ATOMIC OXYGEN) O³ is a highly corrosive gas and is toxic.
      There is only 21% Oxygen O² in the air at Sea level - or sea curve - if the sea is on a curve
      The Oxygen keeps one alive and at the same time is also killing us slowly -
      as it has damaging effects on the brain when combined with the
      amino acids circulating in the body-- Causing the brain to RUST
      It leaves the brain with holes like swiss cheese and is the cause of ALZHEIMERS DISEASE
      The rust in the brain is referred to as Free-Radicals
      They are the ONLY radicals anyone needs to worry about and they will eventually kill you
      whether you like it or not.

    • @davidgjam7600
      @davidgjam7600 Год назад +1

      Wouldn't ozone rust any PCB or metal left inside immediately??

  • @collierhouston3760
    @collierhouston3760 6 лет назад +247

    Hey 8 bit guy, you could use a vacuum seal bag for the large cases, and just inflate it with the ozone

    • @robgillanofficial
      @robgillanofficial 6 лет назад +4

      Collier Houston hah, damn I just posted the same comment. Should have saved the keystrokes and just upvoted this!

    • @Montisaquadeis
      @Montisaquadeis 6 лет назад +2

      Was going to say don't need large freezer bags since there are other types available out there.

    • @ricardosimoni2855
      @ricardosimoni2855 6 лет назад +2

      I was thinking of the same thing when he was in the bags part, it'd be reverse-engineering because the bags are designed to deflate, not inflate but they are very resistant

    • @-DeScruff
      @-DeScruff 6 лет назад +4

      I was thinking about that, or one of those bags you might keep certain clothes in like furs, or wool to keep out moths.

    • @Tomoyodaidoji
      @Tomoyodaidoji 6 лет назад +4

      I agree. It has the further benefit of being designed to trap gasses and prevent air leaks. Which would be perfect for the long duration he is taking about. The other thing I would mention is a electric heater in a large box. A similar concept is used by colleges for bed bug treatment.

  • @tomshotdogs6645
    @tomshotdogs6645 6 лет назад +548

    Just wanted to say, every time I get a message saying you posted something new, it's the high point in my day. Keep it up, I love your channel.

    • @The8BitGuy
      @The8BitGuy  6 лет назад +73

      haha. You're little fly actually tricked me for a few seconds!

    • @ccalhoun3908
      @ccalhoun3908 6 лет назад +1

      The 8-Bit Guy fantastic job.

    • @elevatormaniacgames
      @elevatormaniacgames 6 лет назад +1

      it said it came out 15 min

    • @ferky123
      @ferky123 6 лет назад +6

      The 8-Bit Guy if you get the clothes storage bags they're like giant Ziploc bags.

    • @emeraldwordcool1023
      @emeraldwordcool1023 6 лет назад

      It looks Real but I was Tricked As well.

  • @jorgeparra196
    @jorgeparra196 5 лет назад +75

    I don't know anything about old pc but I found your video impressively helpful to retrobrite my Legos, huge thanks. you got a big like.

    • @BboyAL1
      @BboyAL1 3 года назад

      Which method proved to be the best for you, please?
      Also, did you experienced a yellowing return after some time on whitened parts?
      Cos I tried Hydrogen peroxide method and I noticed a lot of yellowing returning later...

    • @Segatari
      @Segatari 3 года назад

      @@BboyAL1 UV light causes yellowing. Keep your stuff away from UV and you’ll be safe

    • @Anoalekontrieger
      @Anoalekontrieger 2 года назад +4

      @@Segatari can't always get them away from uv light, I'll just Retrobrite it again if it yellows..

  • @PolymerClayTutor
    @PolymerClayTutor 4 года назад +151

    How about using a UV Lamp like the ones they use for nail art? That would be more reliable/controllable than the sun. Should also work for larger items you can’ t move as easily., if it works.

    • @Magisktification
      @Magisktification 3 года назад +15

      Thats how it is done. Watch OddThinkering's channel he uses uv led light strips.

    • @sheilaolfieway1885
      @sheilaolfieway1885 3 года назад

      He does that in a later video with C64.

    • @cherrypepsi2815
      @cherrypepsi2815 3 года назад +6

      @Duke Hugh Johnson why do you capitalise every first letter lmao

    • @DisgruntledPigumon
      @DisgruntledPigumon 3 года назад

      @@cherrypepsi2815 There’s something wrong with him.

    • @cherrypepsi2815
      @cherrypepsi2815 3 года назад

      @@DisgruntledPigumon idk man

  • @tjja7321
    @tjja7321 6 лет назад +213

    every experiment needs a control. so i will use the control key.

    • @davidhunt240
      @davidhunt240 4 года назад

      I used the ESCAPE key as it was some "me" time in the man cave with a blonding kit and a UV lamp without the millions of questions that would bring an immediate halt to proceedings with the usual "NO!" :P

  • @ExperimentalFun
    @ExperimentalFun 6 лет назад +142

    Now I realize why they have those teeth whitener kits with the light, must be a UV light. Your channel is awesome, keep up the good work! :)

    • @AidenJooMV
      @AidenJooMV 3 года назад

      Hi

    • @gammaboost
      @gammaboost 3 года назад +1

      69th like.... sorry I had to

    • @scarm_rune
      @scarm_rune 3 года назад +1

      @@gammaboost im going to ruin it because im mad at my parents

    • @DemeDemetre
      @DemeDemetre 3 года назад

      can you reply?

    • @user-cj7zl5jc6i
      @user-cj7zl5jc6i 3 года назад +1

      i remember hearing with the whitining kits that the cream is doing all the work and the uv light is there to make you think its doing something

  • @Reelworthy
    @Reelworthy 4 года назад +62

    @The 8-Bit Guy Ok, tried this on a translucent plastic, buttons that were yellowed on an old Copy Machine, and I used the Hydrogen Peroxide + UV method. First, I tried a UV light (black light) and after leaving it there for 8 hours, I did not see any improvement, but rather the entire thing (on all of the buttons) appeared to be beginning to yellow (even where they had been like new). I hoped that this had been because of the lack of heat, so I moved it to the sunshine for 4 hours (here in Tucson, Arizona in 106ºF heat). This noticeably yellowed all the plastic parts! I pulled them out of the UV light. Then I heated up a pot of water on the stove until I found the 160ºF sweet spot on my stovetop's Melt setting. Then I poured out the water and replaced it with Hydrogen Peroxide. When it reached 160ºF I placed my plastic buttons into the pot. I felt like I saw some mild improvements after about 5 hours or so, and I removed the pieces, feeling like the next step was to try the Salon Care solution. But after an hour of being dried, and cooling down, my plastic parts had thrown me another curve ball! Wherever there had been yellowing on the translucent plastic, it was now non-translucent white! This is a nightmare!!!!! A NIGHTMARE!!! I realized then that none of these retrobrighting videos had been done with translucent plastic (that I knew of at least). I raised the white flag and said, "enough is enough, I'm putting this copier back together and selling it as it is." Only one problem, when I put the buttons back into the control panel, THEY HAD SHRUNK!!!! Massive shrinkage! For every Inch of original length, I lost one millimeter!!!! After hours (literally hours) of jerry-rigging, cutting, gluing, and literally praying, I have a working copy machine again! This was a $17,000 copier, now still worth thousands. And I almost ruined it... the replacement panel (they don't sell buttons separately) is $1,200, and there isn't really a second hand parts market for these. BE CAREFUL. This plastic was from around 2009, and had yellowing from sunlight exposure. DON'T TRY THIS ON TRANSLUCENT PLASTICS!!!

    • @iceedoll
      @iceedoll 4 года назад +6

      in this video a guy retrobrigts a translucent game boy color successfully ruclips.net/video/2BmGMi0IEx4/видео.html

    • @heckyeshess
      @heckyeshess 4 года назад +4

      I think he used 15% hydrogen peroxide and UV via leds. His method seems by far the easiest regardless of it being outside. If you watch his video dedicated to this he mentions not going over a certain temp.

    • @bethanyanderson1745
      @bethanyanderson1745 3 года назад

      @@heckyeshess - who are you talking about? Which guy? Thanks

    • @mohanvvip
      @mohanvvip 2 года назад

      Thanks for the info!

    • @LoftBits
      @LoftBits 2 года назад +1

      Sounds like a nightmare. Responding after 2 years I see, so hopefully you managed to recover now. SHOULD'VE....BOUGHT....A SQUIRREL! :-)

  • @lvl10cooking
    @lvl10cooking 5 лет назад +180

    Retro brite during a solar eclipse with an offering of blood? Do you think that will affect the performance any?

    • @robertoXCX
      @robertoXCX 4 года назад +10

      Probably not, but it may result in raining Intel 8088 chips... Lol

    • @kort4n120
      @kort4n120 4 года назад +5

      @@robertoXCX Nah, I think it's gonna be raining 386's.

    • @morganrussman
      @morganrussman 3 года назад +2

      @@robertoXCX O_O

    • @Dark_Jaguar
      @Dark_Jaguar 3 года назад +6

      That's how you port Doom to a console.

    • @commscan314
      @commscan314 Год назад

      @@Dark_Jaguar Blood was very much offered to port Doom to the Super Nintendo and 32X

  • @hyzenthlay7151
    @hyzenthlay7151 6 лет назад +38

    For a big sealing bag, try one of those vacuum bags they advertise on TV, where you put clothes in and then vacuum the air out to take up less space. You can vacuum the air out, and then add ozone in if you make a small adjustment to the valve to take your ozone machine...
    And here in Spain we have the perfect thing for using the heat method on big things: Paella dish!! See if you can find a deep one there somewhere, I mean, there are places that cook paella in the States, so there must be dishes somewhere...

    • @jsnsk101
      @jsnsk101 6 лет назад

      i knew i should have scrolled down further before suggesting the same thing :)

    • @hyzenthlay7151
      @hyzenthlay7151 6 лет назад

      I haven't scrolled down, so maybe someone else beat me to it already hehehehe

    • @Christopher-N
      @Christopher-N 6 лет назад +1

      Yes, but Ziplock bags also let air and water pass. Haven't you ever tried to inflate a Ziplock bag with air, seal it with something inside, and then see how long it floats in water?
      But the whole point is to fill the bag with O3. The only reason to use the vacuum is to remove as much of the regular atmosphere as reasonably possible before filling it with ozone. Ziplock or clothe bag, O3 is highly reactive, so fretting about small air leaks is needless.
      I do agree with you, though, Justine-Paula. Buy the best bags available. Otherwise it's the usual case of 'get what you paid for'.

    • @38911bytefree
      @38911bytefree 6 лет назад +1

      A proper paella isnt that cheap !. My Aunt got her (three of them) from Valencia. I think that it would only fit in the bigger one that is "rated" for 12 persons (dishes). Love paella, one of my favorites. Very demanding to prepare and cook though.

    • @hyzenthlay7151
      @hyzenthlay7151 6 лет назад +1

      Demanding would depend on what type of paella. If it's a mixed or seafood paella or fideua, then lot of fish cleaning. If it's arroz a banda then it's very demanding, but a meat or vegetable paella wouldn't be that demanding.

  • @akrimmer86
    @akrimmer86 6 лет назад +58

    Instead of rigging hot water heater parts with a thermostat, just use a suit vide cooker(immersion circulator). Not only will it heat the liquid to an exact temperature, but it will also circulate the liquid around in the tub.

    • @TheChikyChiky
      @TheChikyChiky 6 лет назад +1

      I wanted to comment this, but I don't know how it'll behave with the chemicals.

    • @JMcMillen
      @JMcMillen 6 лет назад

      It would probably be fine, I don't think the peroxide levels are really that high.

    • @driftonAloft
      @driftonAloft 6 лет назад +3

      since it is that heat that it is after the part can be placed in a bag with the peroxide while still submerged in the tub

    • @smrts
      @smrts 6 лет назад +2

      but the method of heating the water to an exact temperature is an immersion heater/circulatory pump, perfect for this application.

    • @PhillyUrbs
      @PhillyUrbs 6 лет назад +2

      Came by the comments to post this. An immersion circulator is perfect for this.

  • @Ringmaster860
    @Ringmaster860 4 года назад +18

    For people with a 3d printer: putting it on the heated bed heated up to 60C this works as well. You could even make a little gcode and move the container back and forth from time to time and then some UV LEDs on top

    • @zymurgynet
      @zymurgynet 4 года назад +5

      3D printer platforms are great heat sources. I use mine to uniformly soften the glue strips holding phone and tablet screens in place so I can remove them much more easily.

  • @SteveFrenchWoodNStuff
    @SteveFrenchWoodNStuff 4 года назад +2

    Honestly, I'm amazed that it's even possible to reverse the yellowing at all. I'm blown away that you were able to completely restore the #2 key. Pretty darned cool! Actually, I may be even more amazed that UV can help reverse the yellowing, given that UV is (as far as I know) a major factor CAUSING the yellowing in the first place.

  • @animefreak5757
    @animefreak5757 6 лет назад +165

    ozone gas is fairly unstable, I don't imagine there was much ozone left after 4 hours. This technique may require leaving the generator hooked up and running. A plus side of this is it'd be easy to use a large clear garbage
    ecycling bag and just tape it to the hose. The output of the generator would offset any small leakage

    • @kcj1993
      @kcj1993 6 лет назад +16

      animefreak5757 afaik it'll only hang around for 15-20mins. Constant flow's the way to go.

    • @MichaelGiacomelli
      @MichaelGiacomelli 6 лет назад +15

      The metal coins are probably going to degrade the ozone as well.

    • @Kareem.90
      @Kareem.90 6 лет назад +1

      this method needs heat sealer to completely seal the plastic bag

    • @Kris_M
      @Kris_M 6 лет назад +4

      Had the same thought, it probably even has low concentration coming out of that tube.

    • @tractor483
      @tractor483 6 лет назад +15

      Yes, constant O3 flow to the bag + throw a hair dryer to the bag before sealing it, to generate heat and airflow. After 2 hours put out the fire.

  • @dreammfyre
    @dreammfyre 6 лет назад +139

    It almost seems like some of these methods make the plastic *too* bright. What about testing them on a completely new product with grey plastic? If you can make it brighter than what it actually looks like new, the method feels kinda dicey to me...

    • @AaronHendu
      @AaronHendu 6 лет назад +33

      So you'd prefer baby shit yellow then? or?

    • @williamhayden7711
      @williamhayden7711 6 лет назад +53

      The one done on the cook top came out white. The original keyboard was never that white. So that's the point he's trying to make. Not that you shouldn't use other methods.

    • @BonzaiThePenguin
      @BonzaiThePenguin 6 лет назад +30

      Aaron Henderson There are colors between shit yellow and too white, like... the original color.

    • @trooperj9152
      @trooperj9152 6 лет назад +9

      Yes, I was hoping 8-bit guy would have commented on the results. It looked too white so was wondering if it was just the camera. He seemed to want to go with that method in the end. I've done some retro-brighting and have had the plastic start to re-yellow within a year or two even though I made sure to keep the items covered when not in use. Wondering if this process really is undoing the 'bromine' yellowing or just bleaching it temporarily. It still improves the appearance just don't expect it to last or plan on re-doing it every couple years.

    • @madfinntech
      @madfinntech 6 лет назад +3

      Exactly! I'm glad someone else noticed this too. I have a couple of PlayStations that need this treatment but I don't want to make them white. I want them to look like new.

  • @orangemultiplayer1453
    @orangemultiplayer1453 Год назад +1

    Respect for adding the temperatures as Celsius as well!

  • @Tiger.Arcade
    @Tiger.Arcade 2 года назад +4

    You’ve nailed the “dad style” I’m envious and envy your white shoes. How you maintain that, this video explains you are the whitening master

  • @k03hl3r
    @k03hl3r 6 лет назад +36

    For your salon cream + heat method I’m not joking - get a sous vide cooker. Not only will you be able to precisely control temperature but you’ll have an amazing culinary tool. Throw your part in a plastic bag, vac seal or use the immersion method to get the air out, and you’ll have an amazing and repeatable method to retrobrite parts of pretty much any size.

    • @cjones4529
      @cjones4529 6 лет назад +2

      k03hl3r I'm amazed at all the comments about these sous vide things... in particular because i have *no clue* about them!

    • @3DJapan
      @3DJapan 6 лет назад +1

      Aren't they expensive?

    • @SumDumGy
      @SumDumGy 6 лет назад +1

      Someone said about $100.

    • @Mrcaffinebean
      @Mrcaffinebean 6 лет назад

      k03hl3r doesn’t really help with the larger pieces though.

    • @keithjohnson8636
      @keithjohnson8636 6 лет назад

      On Salon cream I always see the 40 used will the 30 work?

  • @ThatGuy_33
    @ThatGuy_33 6 лет назад +77

    You could use sous vide for the heat method and it can be easily scaled up
    Sous vide is a method of cooking that uses precise water temperature and there are portable units that you can place in a tank of any size

    • @davidogden8634
      @davidogden8634 6 лет назад +3

      Came here to say the same.

    • @mattgil73
      @mattgil73 6 лет назад +1

      robofreakk I was thinking the same thing. Try a sous vide cooker. You"ll have much better duration and temperature control over the process. With more control, you may be able to dial back the concentration of the chemicals using a longer duration bath.

    • @drivers99
      @drivers99 6 лет назад

      robofreakk Also he should look up sous vide cooler mod to heat up an entire cooler with a lid.

    • @alanarmstrong6099
      @alanarmstrong6099 6 лет назад

      And maybe try a clear tub to allow some UV through on all sides.

    • @StanislavG.
      @StanislavG. 6 лет назад

      The problem with dealing with large volumes of water is its bad heat conductivity, it tends to create an isolated hot layer near the heating element (same principle as in those diving suits), so it'll be necessary to add some kind of a pump or a mixer to circulate the water around. And if you're going this way, why not just use a simple heater and a temp switch (one of those thermistor+relay sets, they cost like $10 or so on ebay)

  • @byronneedham529
    @byronneedham529 Год назад

    Thanks for doing this video, I have just got an original Atari ST with a very yellowed case, after watching this I tried some of your methods and it worked really well and the case is now back to its original colour. Living in the UK I had to wait for the ideal day and we are having a mini heatwave so today was the day.

  • @MrReese
    @MrReese 5 лет назад +2

    I don't know why I am watching this at 1 AM when I have to get up in the morning, but I am loving it :D.

  • @TheGeekPub
    @TheGeekPub 6 лет назад +256

    Why not use a large fish aquarium. There are people on Craiglist begging to give them away. ;-)

    • @zeldajunkielol2
      @zeldajunkielol2 6 лет назад +6

      Ah yes, those could be heated and contain the ozone!

    • @mvl71
      @mvl71 6 лет назад +4

      @SgtPiggie An aquarium is incredibly strong. Glass in general is. There's stairs made out of the stuff!
      If you mount one onto a trolley you can easily ride it out into the sun without breaking your back (or the aquarium).
      And, as TheGeekPub suggested, you can get them for nearly nothing. UV lights are easily installed on top of it so you can use it indoors.

    • @icoborg
      @icoborg 6 лет назад +1

      uvb 10.0 or 12.0 or even HID-Lamps are nothing compared to real sun.

    • @mvl71
      @mvl71 6 лет назад +1

      But you can leave them on 24/7

    • @jazzmaster909
      @jazzmaster909 6 лет назад +4

      aquariums aren't indestructable but they arent exactly made of paper towels either.

  • @MCKoolperson9
    @MCKoolperson9 6 лет назад +17

    I really like the idea of using ozone and heat, you'd just need some airtight container with a viewing window, and you could reliably retrobrite anything without the sun, you might even be able to do it without disassembling anything

    • @grindle2000
      @grindle2000 6 лет назад

      That was the design i was working out in my head just now. A large airtight box with lexan or plexi sides and a air tight sealable door at one end , you could use UV light all around it with a ozone generator and you wouldnt even have to take thing apart , would save a ton of time

    • @oldtwinsna8347
      @oldtwinsna8347 6 лет назад

      Constant ozone generation needed. Might also want to slightly pressurize the container to ensure the nooks and crannies of the plastic side edges will get treated well, assuming the goal is to treat without disassembly - which is definitely the way to go.

    • @MCKoolperson9
      @MCKoolperson9 6 лет назад

      There are household ozone generators that are sold as air purifiers. Should work fine for this application

  • @Paulygon
    @Paulygon 4 года назад

    This is the best video I can recommend anyone who is looking at retrobriting.

  • @gordonc3600
    @gordonc3600 2 года назад

    This video wins my Video-of-the-Decade award, awesome stuff, thanks!

  • @raposadislexa
    @raposadislexa 6 лет назад +95

    It's just me or the "2" keycap (with heat) not only cleaned, but kinda desaturated the original color? it looks way too white, isn't it supposed to be grayish like the 5 keycap (40% Peroxide)?

    • @raphaelbianchi
      @raphaelbianchi 6 лет назад +19

      Raposa Dislexa Thought the same. We would need to see an internal part of the keyboard, that has never been exposed to light, and compare

    • @D0NU75
      @D0NU75 6 лет назад +9

      the F1 key on the underside would have been the perfect control for the desired colour

    • @madfinntech
      @madfinntech 6 лет назад +8

      I thought the same and I have actually always wondered this when people show things they have retrobrited and made a gray thing white and that kind of put me off to do this on my things. I want the original color, not just turn yellow to white.

    • @nickguy6820
      @nickguy6820 6 лет назад +7

      Bear in mind, it doesn't take UV exposure to yellow the plastic. I found a couple yellowed Plextor CD-RWs in my garage yesterday that have been in a box since SCSI was popular. So, there may not be a control anymore. ;-)

    • @HunterZBNS
      @HunterZBNS 6 лет назад +2

      Can't tell if it bleached past the original color without comparing to the underside of another key.

  • @Cythil
    @Cythil 6 лет назад +147

    Wait.... Apple made a product that was easy to disassemble? Wow... That blew my mind!

    • @DONK8008
      @DONK8008 6 лет назад +14

      Old Apple computers were very easy to disassemble, upgrade and even service. Not so much any more.

    • @Cythil
      @Cythil 6 лет назад +3

      Ahh... Such a different time. Never had much experience with old apple hardware.

    • @retrocomputing
      @retrocomputing 6 лет назад +1

      Look at Power Mac G5's inside photos, it is pretty neat, more so for it's time.

    • @pcross84
      @pcross84 5 лет назад +4

      Hopefully I don't give them any ideas, but it surprises me that Apple isn't potting entire motherboards in black acrylic these days. Bad enough that they solder the RAM to the board.

    • @Xilog
      @Xilog 5 лет назад

      The G5s were so sexi

  • @MrOner07
    @MrOner07 2 года назад

    this channel suddenly becoming a fun chemistry class...love this video.very informative

  • @MaCJaX88
    @MaCJaX88 4 года назад

    This is awesome Dave !!! Thanks for taking the time making this video !!

  • @UnlistedAccount
    @UnlistedAccount 6 лет назад +68

    Dear Guy. You are correct that it is not needed to submerge or rub substance on plastics at all if the container you use is closed off. Heat creates Hydrogen Peroxide vapor in the air of the enclosed container. UV irradiation of the Hydrogen Peroxide creates Hydroxyl Radicals (·OH) (2.8V). And the UV irradiation of the air inside the container creates Ozon gas (O3) (2.07V). Both of these are highly reactive noncorosive oxidizing agents. Basically how some medical devices are disinfected. Best of luck.

    • @acathlafr6515
      @acathlafr6515 5 лет назад +1

      Do you know what kind of UV are needed? UVA, B or C?

    • @DalekCraft
      @DalekCraft 5 лет назад +34

      *_D E A R G U Y_*

    • @ariesijm8018
      @ariesijm8018 5 лет назад

      So if i understand you right, the piece doesn't need to be covered with the liquid. It can also float as long as the crate is closed. Is sunlight necessary or is the heat alone enough?

    • @daijoubu4529
      @daijoubu4529 5 лет назад

      @@ariesijm8018 heat alone, may be better that way as it will be more uniform. Think about how hair salon uses that cream... with heat

    • @Bialy_1
      @Bialy_1 4 года назад

      @@acathlafr6515 UV-A -> "not absorbed by the ozone layer"= soft UV, UV-C is the hard UV="completely absorbed by the ozone layer and atmosphere". My bet is that UV-B will be the safest way to play with.

  • @laflecack
    @laflecack 6 лет назад +17

    just subscribed based on a friend telling me the intro music was a banger, which was absolutely true

  • @DWatso
    @DWatso 4 года назад

    Fantastic video comparison 8BG, thanks, I've a Sun Ultra 10 incoming for the reconditioning treatment soon, this video helped massively in the decision on how to clean up the (inevitably yellowed) plastics! Thanks!

  • @mikeunum
    @mikeunum 3 года назад

    Top VIdeo. I'm a hobby chemist and i know a lot of things. Your results put in work mode. THANKS for it.

  • @magnum333
    @magnum333 6 лет назад +9

    Engine degreaser: "that looks nasty" LOL!
    What about a transparent crate so it gets +/- equal sunlight?
    Excellent project!

  • @cloud4565
    @cloud4565 5 лет назад +418

    So what have we learnt?
    Buy black computers

    • @superbaldi3307
      @superbaldi3307 5 лет назад +4

      dammit i have some silver on my pc 😡

    • @davebirley2280
      @davebirley2280 4 года назад +25

      My entire computer including the monitor, mouse and keyboard is black. I also keep my curtains closed too. No retrobriting needed.

    • @Bialy_1
      @Bialy_1 4 года назад +19

      Its a problem of old plastic... so its not important what color you buying now as the modern day plastic will not gonna have this problem...

    • @jmemusic
      @jmemusic 4 года назад +8

      Good advice, but it won't apply to retro PCs. A lot of them are white

    • @jmemusic
      @jmemusic 4 года назад +4

      @@Bialy_1 Does this also applies to music keyboards? When did they fixed this problem? I have a keyboard from the 90s and the keys are yellow

  • @zedabyu
    @zedabyu 2 года назад

    Hi! Regarding the 2:42 method, does that mean I could just place a fully assembled toy on a metal pedestal, seal the container to keep the fumes in, place it outside for the UV light, and it will still turn white? (without submerging, disassembling, etc)

  • @nikosv8166
    @nikosv8166 5 лет назад

    This is THE BEST vid I have seen testing various methods for yellowing plastic - thank you so much, you are awesome!!!! :)

  • @Sockkerbagarn
    @Sockkerbagarn 6 лет назад +22

    About ozone, you should put the generator on and leave it in the bag, cause ozone is very unstable and will react or fall apart to oxygen relatively quick. You also should perform it outside to get rid of leakage.

  • @Ivo--
    @Ivo-- 6 лет назад +27

    Here's an idea: Use a sous vide circulator for heating the water!

    • @scottluther2091
      @scottluther2091 5 лет назад +1

      lol, I was just thinking the same thing and was going to comment! I had to confirm that they would do 160 degrees and they will, as well as they have a timer that you can set for them as well! I assume he could get a plastic storage container big enough to hold the item needed to do it!

  • @djmason9
    @djmason9 4 года назад

    I used the salon care products to whiten my old mac. I heated the water to about 120-130 submerged the case fully in the water and set in the sun for about 3.5 hrs they were nice and white! I used a combo of 20 and 40 2 gallons worth. Thanks for the video!

  • @drew31186
    @drew31186 2 года назад

    Thank you! I very much appreciate the method you used and comparisons.

  • @sergewroclawski3342
    @sergewroclawski3342 6 лет назад +6

    What a great episode! For the large bag, there are large zip lock bags meant for clothing that should work. They look and work just like any other zip lock bag, but are huge. For the temperature control, you may want to look at a clip-on immersion circulator like the ones people use for cooking. I don't know if the parts would be affected by the hydrogen peroxide, but you would be able to get very precise control of the temperature at the temperatures you're looking at. I use the Nomiku myself, but it's pricy. You may want to look at the Anova Precision as it's less expensive. Then your container can just be a small plastic tub. I hope these tips help and thanks for all the great content!

    • @Towelie2k4
      @Towelie2k4 6 лет назад +2

      Was looking for a comment like this! Sous-Vide style cookers seem like they'd get the job done nicely.

  • @JCTrucks410
    @JCTrucks410 5 лет назад +3

    I'm glad you did this experiment it's nice to see how you utilize what you learned in your more current videos.

  • @alexandrerochaamaral315
    @alexandrerochaamaral315 5 лет назад

    Man, your experiment about this subject os just fantastic!

  • @yoonpark8311
    @yoonpark8311 5 лет назад

    I saw your video when I was a senior year of high school.
    And now! I came back to see again for restoring the consoles just make sure I can do it well.
    I should start to restore the console that works completely fine and sell as much more price than before.
    Not going to sell an overpriced item but well enough to make people satisfied and enough price.
    I have been planning to restore some console or some games that lost the glories back in the day.
    And now, I find another way to restore old things.

  • @deepblue153
    @deepblue153 5 лет назад +9

    This whole time I could've been using my mom's hair products to restore plastic. WOW.
    When using developer normally, the heat from a person's head is usually enough to make it work.

  • @RAVtech
    @RAVtech 6 лет назад +13

    Im in kansas so we are geting the full eclipse. And school got canceled

    • @thecanadianlanboy8132
      @thecanadianlanboy8132 6 лет назад

      RAV wait... its summer...

    • @FeditoxGamingar
      @FeditoxGamingar 6 лет назад

      my school day got extended so we wouldn't be out during the eclipse, I'm skipping though so it doesn't really matter

    • @EricJohnson1984
      @EricJohnson1984 6 лет назад

      TheCanadianLanBoy school started August 14. Crazy! www.kcpublicschools.org/site/handlers/filedownload.ashx?moduleinstanceid=10859&dataid=31375&FileName=KCPS%20School%20Year%20Calendar.pdf

    • @innocehnt75
      @innocehnt75 6 лет назад +2

      My school won't even let us see the eclipse. Also, it's the first day.. its as if putting things in your locker is more important than a once in a lifetime learning experience.

    • @thecanadianlanboy8132
      @thecanadianlanboy8132 6 лет назад

      konzentrierten school here in canada starts on september 6th, but we only got partial eclipse anyway

  • @leetaeryeo5269
    @leetaeryeo5269 3 года назад +5

    I know I’m super late, but a way you might be able to scale the Peroxide+heat method is by using a soul vide immersion circulator (or multiple) in a large tub. They’re designed to heat water to between 140 and 180, iirc, and keep it at that temperature for extended periods.

  • @emondrag
    @emondrag 2 года назад

    Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
    I got 20v/o salón cream and after an hour in very cloudy and rainy day, the difference was already striking (live in central america, the sun is brutal).
    I got some streaking, so tonight I got 40v/o salón cream and will try some more RetroBrite goodness tomorrow.
    Thanks again.

  • @ShadowWingTronix
    @ShadowWingTronix 6 лет назад +82

    And here I thought "Retrobrite" was the brand name of a plastic restorer and not a process. Shows what I don't know.

    • @LoranDavis
      @LoranDavis 6 лет назад +6

      ShadowWing Tronix I had thought the same thing bud. Blessings and best wishes, from Newfoundland.
      Dorkily,
      Loran
      :-)

    • @SupremeNerd
      @SupremeNerd 5 лет назад +2

      Honestly, I thought the same thing so don't feel bad, you're not alone lol

    • @shabazz18
      @shabazz18 5 лет назад +5

      Which is why I hate the term.

    • @allwrathnograpes
      @allwrathnograpes 3 года назад

      I did too. It sounds like a brand, down to the "brite" spelling

    • @commscan314
      @commscan314 Год назад

      Back in the day it was "Retr0bright".

  • @Klinkertinlegs
    @Klinkertinlegs 6 лет назад +10

    Around here, dollar tree has large bags that seal. They are marketed as space bags, but they don't have a vacuum attachment, they are just large ziplock style bags

    • @Bialy_1
      @Bialy_1 4 года назад

      Just take garbage bag and make a nut on it... it will not gonna be able to block too much of UV radiation...

  • @dennisolsson3119
    @dennisolsson3119 23 дня назад +1

    There are plastic bags meant for vacuum packing textiles. That in conjunction with running ozone sounds simple.

  • @snowcatinthecradle2349
    @snowcatinthecradle2349 5 лет назад

    The Greatest experiment I've ever seen. You inspired me.

  • @fuzion7905
    @fuzion7905 6 лет назад +11

    is it just me or do i wish that david released more videos? i always rewatch his videos like 5 times each and i still enjoy them. Imagine if he had a daily upload schedule...

    • @tjja7321
      @tjja7321 6 лет назад +1

      Yeah, then it would be quantity over quality and he’d probly do klikbate

  • @lShishkaBerryl
    @lShishkaBerryl 6 лет назад +25

    Pretty cool that the numbers don't come off with all those chemicals lol

    • @rastislavzima
      @rastislavzima 6 лет назад +7

      ShishkaBerry yeah, but it can affect some paints/materials so retrobrighting should be done with care - when I was trying it with my Apple IIc the apple badge has faded a bit and bottom label has been quite ruined...

    • @christiangrey3645
      @christiangrey3645 6 лет назад +1

      ShishkaBerry They're usually lasered on the plastic.

    • @buddyclem7328
      @buddyclem7328 5 лет назад +2

      Christian Grey Actually, most keys are made from two different plastic layers. The core contains the image of the character, and the top layer is the background color. That's why you can feel the shape of the character on the key, it's because of the two-step (sometimes more steps) molding process.

    • @laalpattharkedevata
      @laalpattharkedevata 5 лет назад

      @@christiangrey3645 they are printed on not lasered

  • @middle_pickup
    @middle_pickup 4 года назад

    Congrats on such a thorough test. I now know everything about retrobriting plastics.

    • @Bialy_1
      @Bialy_1 4 года назад

      I know everything about internet specialists that claim that they know everything about any subject...

    • @middle_pickup
      @middle_pickup 4 года назад

      @@Bialy_1 but do you know the Muffin Man?

  • @nicholasdryden2433
    @nicholasdryden2433 3 года назад

    Sou Vide cooker on any container. 160 degrees sustainable. Containers for all sizes and models are already made. You are welcome my guy, makes life super easy. Since this video these devices have come to market at sub 200 dollars. Love your videos!

  • @Zizzily
    @Zizzily 6 лет назад +9

    Should be able to get an immersion heater. They're often used in brewing alcohol at home.

  • @danielwilkins2234
    @danielwilkins2234 6 лет назад +69

    Love your content! I'm a 11 year old from Jersey and have learned a bunch from your videos!

    • @andriealinsangao613
      @andriealinsangao613 6 лет назад +4

      14 from the Philippines!

    • @lgrsi
      @lgrsi 6 лет назад +2

      Andrie Alinsangao Me too. LOL

    • @fffUUUUUU
      @fffUUUUUU 6 лет назад +7

      BaseballNut05 you violate RUclips user's agreement. Leave now.

    • @andriealinsangao613
      @andriealinsangao613 6 лет назад

      Nice!

    • @EVRLYNMedia
      @EVRLYNMedia 6 лет назад +2

      BaseballNut05 i am thirteen and i love retro stuff as much as a love modern stuff

  • @laughingfishcreations
    @laughingfishcreations 4 года назад

    Great video, man, very thorough and yet to the point.

  • @juntjoonunya9216
    @juntjoonunya9216 Год назад

    I appreciate all the work you put into this!

  • @HalfMonty11
    @HalfMonty11 6 лет назад +7

    Man, I just love that intro music, such a positive melody. I'd listen to it all the time if it were a full tune.

    • @AndersEngerJensen
      @AndersEngerJensen 6 лет назад +4

      Half Monty Well, you can! 😜 soundcloud.com/eox-studios/morning-dew

    • @HalfMonty11
      @HalfMonty11 6 лет назад

      should have known it was one of yours. Thanks!

    • @black_squall
      @black_squall 6 лет назад

      LOL Anders. Nice

  • @RichardKing603
    @RichardKing603 3 года назад +6

    The Ziploc vacuum bags would be perfect for this, and you can get them at Walmart!

  • @marciaschuchdeoliveira9121
    @marciaschuchdeoliveira9121 2 года назад

    oh that video is a masterpiece i really appreciate the effort you put in testing all of those methods

  • @PhoenixPLPhoenix
    @PhoenixPLPhoenix 4 года назад

    Great video as always! Im in the middle of a restoring process (Schneider / Amstrad CPC 464, german Version with grey-ish keys instead the green and red ones, turned completely brown) and that informations you provide helped me out a lot, no sun here right now and i want the process of retrobrighting to finish ASAP before my gotek stuff arrives :) ill gonna use the salon cream and "boil" the stuff up with the keys massaged into cream and wrapped into plastic foil and inside a bag. Thanks again! Merry Christmas to you and your family! Greetings from Germany!

  • @ppxppy
    @ppxppy 6 лет назад +10

    If you need a large bag for the ozone technique, try using a vacuum storage bag (the kind that you can use a vacuum cleaner with).

  • @Egon1982
    @Egon1982 4 года назад +4

    7:07 thats very smart :)
    "When inhaled, ozone can damage the lungs. Relatively low amounts of ozone can cause chest pain, coughing, shortness of breath and, throat irritation. It may also worsen chronic respiratory diseases such as asthma as well as compromise the ability of the body to fight respiratory infections."

  • @gcflowers86
    @gcflowers86 2 года назад

    Just got today my Macintosh Classic II, I will start working and restoring using your technical knowledge. Wish me luck.

  • @shinnoske13MusokanHK
    @shinnoske13MusokanHK 4 года назад

    Thank you!!!! I have put away one of my childhood fav toy hoping to restore it to its former glory! now I can! Thank you! Thank you!!

  • @samthemultimediaman
    @samthemultimediaman 6 лет назад +7

    try putting the ozone tube in a tank of distilled water maybe with an air stone on the tube, it might force more oxygen in the water and you might not need the peroxide then apply heat and or UV

  • @the8bitgabeold382
    @the8bitgabeold382 6 лет назад +5

    8 bit guy, i went to the total eclipse today . IT WAS COOL!!!!!!

    • @skeggjoldgunnr3167
      @skeggjoldgunnr3167 5 лет назад

      Remember that time Boogieman blocked out the sun with a giant disco ball that he controlled with the button under the flip-top cap on the head of his pimp cane? It's the thought that counts. His motives were honorable - he did it to keep it partytime boogie night all the time. But the Power Puff Girls did not share his appreciation of the boogie.

  • @darkcrazyleg
    @darkcrazyleg 4 года назад

    Hello. I'm a professor of chemistry and industrial chemist in Brazil. I watched the video, excellent information. Subscribed and like!

  • @joederr8010
    @joederr8010 5 лет назад

    Totally love your shirt David! Very Cool!

  • @YarblekRW
    @YarblekRW 4 года назад +11

    A soux vide might be ideal for heating the liquid. they just clip to a variety of pots and maintain a liquid at a very exact temperature

    • @Johnsormani
      @Johnsormani 2 года назад +1

      sous vide, not soux vide: it's french

    • @commscan314
      @commscan314 Год назад

      @@Johnsormani French has a metric shitton of words that end with X, many of which are plural.

  • @nathansmith1085
    @nathansmith1085 6 лет назад +3

    I hope you are safe considering the weather in your area!

  • @PrimateSoul
    @PrimateSoul Год назад

    Appreciate that you tried different variables for us

  • @dougdalsin6569
    @dougdalsin6569 5 лет назад

    So I gave this a try. I have a gas stove and ended up changing the jet on the smallest burner with smallest jet I had to help control the heat. I also had to put a spacer between the pot and the stove but I was eventually able to control the heat to around 165F. I put water into a large pot and put parts from a Jacuzzi tub in a plastic zip lock with Developer 40 Cream in it. The bag expanded a it so I let some air out a couple of times. I left it for about 3 hours checking the temperature every 15 minutes or so. When it was done the parts came out perfectly white again after being very yellowed. Beside a piece of white paper you can't tell the difference. Thanks for the video.

  • @onedeadsaint
    @onedeadsaint 6 лет назад +6

    I just wanted to say that I really love this channel! such great content! thanks!

  • @KevinAllOver
    @KevinAllOver 6 лет назад +18

    What about a Sous Vide immersion circulator? They're relatively inexpensive, keep constant temperature, and move the water around in your container so you don't need a large burner.

    • @kobibenlevi5523
      @kobibenlevi5523 5 лет назад +5

      Interesting idea. I've got one of those, my only concern would be how hydrogen peroxide would affect the pump.

  • @Dadster171957
    @Dadster171957 2 года назад

    Great video, very cool. I am going to give this a try on some yellowed jacuzzi spray ports, fingers crossed, awesome video!

  • @tharii314
    @tharii314 3 года назад +2

    I am about to retrobrite our old landline phone, which was constantly serving us up to 20 years,
    and still working.

  • @WILFRED1184
    @WILFRED1184 6 лет назад +60

    Dont use ozone. O3 is an oxidizer and makes plastics brittle. It will also break down rubber products.

    • @unclejoeoakland
      @unclejoeoakland 5 лет назад +14

      It seems as if all these techniques revolve around oxidation to remove the old color, hydrogen peroxide is a vigorous oxidizing agent as is ultraviolet light- let me correct myself on that one, ultraviolet light promotes oxidation if it's not exactly an oxidizer itself

    • @Bialy_1
      @Bialy_1 4 года назад

      @@unclejoeoakland U need energy for this oxidation and that is why u need ultraviolet light(higher energy light) or extra heat... less energy = more time to do the same job...

  • @mathesonstep
    @mathesonstep 6 лет назад +62

    You should try retrobrite in a bathtub with hot water and a UV Light

    • @GenXToysGeek
      @GenXToysGeek 6 лет назад +5

      I was wondering if a uv lamp would work instead of sun ight? Dave, can you test this as well pls?

    • @mayravixx25
      @mayravixx25 6 лет назад

      UV lights and lamps aren't nearly as effective as the sunlight. Though, I think it would work that way if he could manage to buy one from Lowes or something, and just place it outside.

    • @GraceSerenityK
      @GraceSerenityK 6 лет назад +13

      My hypothesis on it is the Retrobright is actually activated by the heat of the sunshine and not the UV. He's said a few times that it doesn't work as well on cloudy days. But clouds don't diminish the short wavelength UV light as much as the long wave IR light. Plus, he got the most stark difference from the stove. UV may be a part of the equation, but I don't think it's as important as the heat. (but I'm not a chemist, so I could be completely wrong!)

    • @zacharytjohn8084
      @zacharytjohn8084 6 лет назад +3

      Grant Kieser heat is a catalyst that helps to speed up reactions and particles. UV light is also a catalyst and starter for many chemical reactions. I do think that the UV light is not necessary and any thing that provides energy to the hydrogen peroxide should suffice.

    • @GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli
      @GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli 6 лет назад +6

      Didn't we learn from the stovetop experiment that UV light isn't actually required? Just heat it up.

  • @jubbabyte8426
    @jubbabyte8426 2 года назад

    Nice in depth explanation of how this is done. It can be quite expensive for peroxide liquid, you can get the same effect from hair dressing peroxide cream at a 3rd of the price. This is only because of the volume you need to fill the box above the plastics, where as cream can be applied to the item directly and spread.

  • @animalyze7120
    @animalyze7120 5 лет назад

    Great video! Awesome information.

  • @AbductionFailed
    @AbductionFailed 6 лет назад +87

    Can you build a "super-retrocomputer" using parts from the best retrocomputers you know?

    • @Cyortonic
      @Cyortonic 6 лет назад +15

      It could be a bit difficult. I haven't seen his entire retro computer collection, but most of the computers I see all would have their own custom parts that wouldn't be compatible with other parts.

    • @GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli
      @GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli 6 лет назад +13

      You mean like the computing arrays of PlayStation 2s and 3s used in military applications?

    • @thecombinearecoming
      @thecombinearecoming 6 лет назад +7

      LGR did something similar to this once where he built an old DOS gaming pc that would've been absolute top of the line at the time, maybe you'd like that? v=fbjYkPKRm-8

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 6 лет назад +5

      I agree that it's more than a tiny bit difficult, it would be my honour to try and assist with engineering of such insanity.
      For the most part, interfacing classic busses to each other isn't too complicated, there's no complex protocols, everything is an address read or write, and mostly a couple 74 series ICs will do it, sometimes more economically today a CPLD XC95xx today or so. For this reason that interfacing is simpler than you think, you see mixed and matched devices not too rarely: Z80 and 6502 both with peripherals designed for MC6809 or TMS9900, or a random z80 hanging in there in the middle of a 16-bit system.
      But whole-system design is of course challenging.

    • @PassiveDestroyer
      @PassiveDestroyer 6 лет назад

      I love this idea! I don't have much retro stuff, but I really like it.

  • @justsomeperson5110
    @justsomeperson5110 3 года назад +2

    Wow! Thanks! I think I actually like the ozone idea the most, with a garment storage vacuum bag for large items. Because this way would actually be safe to do the entire item at once without removing the interior parts. I mean, sure, crack that puppy open and suck out the dust, reseat the cables, etc. anyway. But once it's clean on the inside, reassemble and retrobrite. Seems like a win to me with no risk of residual moisture lurking or adding to any oxidation on a shield.

    • @askjacob
      @askjacob 2 года назад +1

      holy late revival - but a note on that idea about oxidation - Ozone is highly oxidative so it will rapidly increase oxidation on a shield, attack rubber and PVC so don't "ozinate" a complete system!!

    • @SnapNK
      @SnapNK 2 года назад

      @@askjacob Thanks for the heads up, I was considering the idea myself

  • @joshmiller887
    @joshmiller887 4 года назад

    I’m going to try the heat method with an emersion circulator in a heat resistant tote! Great process!

  • @Elwingish
    @Elwingish 2 года назад

    This is so incredibly helpful. Thank you! I'm going to try this for myself on my extremely yellowed joe colombo "boby" trolley. It's going to be tricky because that thing is much bigger than a computer case.

  • @ARamirez150
    @ARamirez150 6 лет назад +73

    #PrayFor8BitGuysPinky

  • @user-ut9ln4vd5m
    @user-ut9ln4vd5m 4 года назад +3

    Other equipment ideas: Ultrasonic parts cleaner with heat. I _think_ some regular parts cleaners (no ultrasonics) might have heat too. Or a cheap *food dehydrator* does lower temps well.

  • @KarzenX
    @KarzenX 5 лет назад

    Was looking for a way to restore some plastic pieces on a recycled refrigerator for my garage and VOI LAAAAAAA ! Gave me some ideas for some old Mac stuff I have laying around. 🤘🏽🤓 THANKS ! I use dishwasher gel for cleaning in the bathroom; especially for refreshing the shower insert. Typically works well on plastics, tile floors and grout lines, as well as toilets and sinks. Need to try on the old 💻 pieces

  • @grayfox1471
    @grayfox1471 4 года назад

    Subscribed because of this very thorough and informative video