Yeswelder MIG 205DS, Multifunction Welder Review
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2021
- This is a review of the Yeswelder MIG 205DS. This is a multi-function welder that can do MIG, Stick and scratch-start TIG. It is a dual voltage welder and it seems inexpensive for what you get. So I decided to take a look and see how it does.
CORRECTION: In the video I said the cables are five and a half feet long. That was a mistake. The cables are approximately 10 feet long. I apologize for the error.
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Correction: The cables are approximately 10 feet long. I normally measure the cables with any welder I review and in this case I must have overlooked it. When the length of the cables was brought into question I measured them and found out that they are 10 feet long. I apologize for the misinformation.
I purchased the MIG 205DS a few weeks ago and haven't had any of the issues you have had. The ground clamp is fairly heavy duty and has shown no tendency to bend up like yours. The MIG gun is of decent quality with a very nice trigger. I usually use it with 220V power and have no problems reaching a full 205 amps. The welder is only rated at 160 amps when using 120v power according to the manual. When MIG and flux core welding, setting the inductance to 5 or 6 evens out the arc and provides a cleaner weld with less splatter. When stick welding I've found the amperage settings to be right on. As is true with any welder some adjustment and experimentation is needed to get it to weld they way you like. Sorry you seem to have issues with the one you received. That could say something for quality control. But the one I received runs like a much more expensive machine and I'm very happy with it. Still, nice review as it might point to some variation in quality of YesWelder products.
In the grand scheme of things, the ground clamp isn't a huge issue, but I had to keep tweaking it back into shape because it wanted to twist up so bad.
I mentioned in the video that the output when stick welding closely matched the set amperage on mine as well.
I probably should have mentioned it in the video, but I agree that the MIG gun is pretty decent. certainly not the worst I've used by a long shot.
What wire size are you running? Have you verified the actual output on MIG when set at 205 amps? Just curious. It's possible there is something wrong with mine. I hadn't actually planned to run the welder with 0.035" wire because I didn't realize I was out until I started testing. I figured I'd just use 0.030" wire for all the MIG testing because that's generally what I use when MIG welding anyway. When I found that I couldn't get more than 160 amps out of it, I couldn't bring myself to leave the review at that without trying 0.035" wire. I bought a new 12.5 lb roll of Lincoln L-56 after work a few days later and did more testing the following weekend. Maybe it's worth contacting Yeswelder about to see what they say?
Ground clamp is actually shit. Upgrade to one harbor freight have as replacement. Good to have as a backup for place you want to have to burn up your ground leads.
It requires 45amp for 120v which is extremely high. I keep popping fuses off 20amp so make sure you be careful of that
Is yours the new black version?
thank you very much for showing actual visual welds BTW! 👍 verbal explanations are simply not enough.
Nice review and very informative! Despite the lower end cables and accessories it looked like it did some nice welds both in MIG and stick. Either that or you have some "MAD" welding skills! Thanks for all the informative information. Your welds really look nice to me!
Thanks. It can definitely produce some nice welds. When using C25 gas and 0.030" wire it actually runs pretty well. It just tops out at 160 amps is all. As for stick welding, it's welds pretty much like any other cheap inverter. Basic, but the arc is smooth. It's not a bad machine, it just has some odd things that bummed me out. Too bad, because it could be a slam dunk value if it just had a few improvements.
@@bigtb1717 I understand, again nice review!
@@bigtb1717 I just talked to a fella who just purchased the YesWelder 205DS. He just received it two day ago. He said his machine came with 10' leads. He also said his ground clamp was pretty stout. I'm wondering if they made some changes to the newer models. I just though you may find that interesting.
They also sell a TIG 205DS which is listed as including 10 foot cables. Is it possible he bought the TIG model and not the MIG model? If he did get the MIG 205DS it would be interesting to know which one is the “newer” version. Like, did they make it better or worse, lol. Also be interesting to know if anything else is different.
@@bigtb1717 I'm pretty certain he bought the MIG model 205DS. I see on the website where they have the pictures of what's included, the MIG model pictures show 10' leads. I didn't see that information listed anywhere else in the description for the MIG model. If your leads are really only 5', you might be able to send them an email and see if they'll send you the 10' leads. I know it's a pain but it would be nice to see what they do in your case. Anyhow, it's interesting and weird!
I’m highly impressed with the performance of this welder considering the cheap stinger sbd ground leads. I’d imagine increasing the leads size and using copper instead wouid cure the hiccups you were having.
Like always nice vidéo!
Good review. Did you happen to run any 6010 electrodes on the Yeswelder? I can run 7018 and 6013 on mine with no problems but I can’t get the welder to maintain a continuous arc with 6010 electrodes.
I ran 6011, but no 6010. Many inverters have trouble with 6010, so I would not be surprised if this one had trouble with 6010 as well. I may make a second video with this welder. If I do, I'll try some 6010.
Think this welder could handle welding 1/4” mild steel?
I like the high end chipping hammer that comes with it LOL I do ok with it but i'm just a novice... works great for what i do.
Been looking at the Klutch ST201iDV lately. Seems like a lot of welder + the accessories for under $400, and not many reviews that look at the TIG specifically.
That does look like a pretty well featured machined for the price. It is currently backordered. I'll keep an eye on it because if it is a good machine it could represent a pretty good value.
Can you test a stick welder on alot of extension cord? The volt drop and how the welder acts ect, 300ft of 12ga would be interesting! While doing fence I've had to run 100 to 150feet of 12ga
On 120V or 240V?
Are you going to do any video reviews on the YESWELDER ARC PRO 165DS 110-220V and the Arc205. I hear the amp ratings are not true as advertised.
I didn't do a separate review of the ARC 205DS, but I did use it in my comparison video with the Miller Thunderbolt. I did indeed find that the output was not nearly what is claimed in the specs. It maxed out at 160 amps on 240V, and around 115 amps on 120V (and drew over 40 amps at that point. I show all that in the video.
I may eventually check out the 165 and I'd like to test out the MIG 250 Pro as well. Just have to find the time and see if I can get my hands on them.
I recently purchased Centre FC 90 welder I am new 2 welding and I can't figure out how to use it like I know how to put the wire in and the outputs I can't figure out how to weld with it do you think you can tell me please?
Is there something specific you are trying to do that isn't working, or are you just looking for basic instruction in general?
Thanks for your vids. I picked this machine up and am debating plugs and circuits in my shop. I've currently (ha) have 110 20A, and 220 20A and was thinking about changing the 220 to 10/2 30A. Since I have the weird Yeswelder adapter, I could put in a 6-50R. Not sure if using a 30A breaker on that 50A receptacle is a good idea? Also not sure if I need to run new 6 gauge wire and a 50A breaker for this machine? I'm not going to be welding 1/2" just small DIY projects.
I've also considered replacing the plug on the machine to a L6-30P, and running new 10/2 with a L6-30R and 30A breaker. Just don't want to regret it later, plus I'd be kissing any kind of warranty goodbye I suppose. Really curious of your thoughts?
No problem using a 50A rated plug on a 30 amp breaker. The breaker is to protect the wire and receptacle. So the wire and receptacle should be capable of at least as much current as the breaker. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with having a wire and/or receptacle rated for more amps than the breaker.
You never want a breaker rated for more amperage than the wire or the receptacle/plug. Going the other way is fine.
A 30 amp breaker would probably be enough for this welder. Going up to 40 or 50 amps would allow more flexibility in the future, but it just depends on what you want to do.
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Did you happen to measure the current draw of the MIG 205DS when using 240 volt supply? That is, did you place your amp clamp on the power cord?
I did. I don't know why I didn't include it in the video. It drew around 30-31 amps when maxed out on 240V.
Did you try running the stick welder on 120V? Wondering how it would perform at what amps om 120. I yet to have install a dedicated 240v in my garage.
I think it maxed out around 115 amps on 120V. Not bad, but be aware that it did draw a lot of current. If you run it maxed out for very long, even on a 20 amp breaker, you'll likely trip the breaker. If you limit the output to 85 amps or so, you will still be pulling well over 20 amps, but you will be a bit less likely to trip the breaker, unless you are running long, continuous welds.
I bought a Mig-Pro 250 to weld aluminum square tubing. I found another youtuber welding aluminum using Mig-Pro 250 with TCEN and aluminum wire and MIG torch. He did a decent welding using his setup. Couldn't see his aluminum wire though (that's just my guess). Do you know whether it is possible using MIG-Pro 250 to do what he did.
You would need to use aluminum wire (most common is 4043) and 100% argon shielding gas. Most MIG welders use a spool gun for aluminum welding because aluminum wire doesn't always feed through a long MIG gun very well, but some people have had success doing so. The Yeswelder MIG Pro 250 doesn't support a spool gun, so you will have to just use the included MIG gun setup.
@@bigtb1717 ok, will buy 100% argon gas to do mig welding aluminum for my truck camper frame. Thanks.
And dont forget to change the gun liner
Could the wait time between 110 & 220 usage be to allow time for the 110 volt charge to discharge out of the capacitor?
Probably something like that. Maybe it doesn't have bleed-down resistors on the caps and it's possible for the system power back up, still in 120V mode but with 240V input. It's just not a warning I've seen on anything other than Yeswelder machines.
@@bigtb1717 I did see another 205 DS vid warning watchers to be careful doing repairs as the capacitors don't have discharge circuitry and nobody likes getting shocked...Thanks
Hi, how's it going? I've been really enjoying your videos since I came across your channel, definitely the best welder reviews I have found. You seem like a cool guy that knows what's up and isn't just trying to push a product. I was hoping maybe you could answer a question for me. I am looking to get my first welder I'm hoping to stay in the $300 ish range. The newer black version of this welder is currently on sale on Amazon for $310 it seems they have added a spool gun function (which I don't see myself using), they made it it 220 plug that adapts down to 120, and they added an option to set the settings manually. I want to learn mig, and stick for now. I figure 160 amp is probably plenty for me. I just don't want to make it harder on myself trying to learn. Do you think this would be a bad option for me? Thanks.
I haven't tried the newer version of it. It's possible they have made improvements. If you are aware of the limitations and it will work for your needs and is in your budget, then it might not be a bad option for you.
Are you in the US?
@@bigtb1717 yes, I'm in Ohio. I considered asking some questions on one of the welding forums but everyone on there pretty much just turns up their nose at anything that's not Miller, Lincoln, or ESAB. I just don't have the budget for that. I'm not a farmer, I'm not gonna be doing anything heavy duty in the immediate future. I honestly just want something that can stick weld and mig/FC weld adequately. I have zero experience welding but I've been talking about learning for years and Im just trying to get the wagon rolling. My intention is to start with stick welding but I like the idea of having mig functionality for down the road. Welding is a skill long overdue in my toolbox. My assumption is the new model of this welder is the same as the blue model aside from the updates I mentioned. I guess my question is, in your opinion, would this welder be good option to learn on? I know sometimes a lower quality tool can steepen the learning curve and that's what I'm trying to avoid. Thanks a lot. I really appreciate you taking the time to respond to my question.
I agree that a poor quality tool can increase the learning curve, but knowing some of the quirks going in can make a big difference. Shoot me an email if you want at bigtbcontact@gmail.com
What was the amp draw at 240V. I was wondering if my 7000 watt harbor freight gen would run this @ 240V 30 amp breaker?
I thought I tested draw in this video, but maybe only on 120V. I think a 7000 watt generator would run it, but you probably wouldn't be able to max out the welder.
@@bigtb1717 Thx for the reply. Once i checked specs I think I need a good 170 amp mig that draws @ the most 28 amp @ 240V. Some on ebay look promising but if you know of one let me know. Again thx.
good luck with the warranty ,,, I think a cut and etch on the weld would reveal a lot , and maybe not what your expecting .
I've heard that some people seem to get the brush-off from Yeswelder. When I emailed them with some questions about the output and whether or not 160 amps was expected for this machine they simply issued me a full refund. I didn't ask for a refund or anything, I was only asking for information. I actually bought a second welder and tested that one as well. I made an update video about it. It seems like their response to support questions is a bit inconsistent.
@@bigtb1717 great result ..
what size breaker were you running it on?
I have a 20A, 120V dedicated circuit I use when running welders on 120V. I have a 40A, 240V dedicated circuit I use when running welders on 240V.
@@bigtb1717 Do you have any suspicion that the welders from the various "upstart" Chinese manufacturers are less energy efficient than those from well established "western" manufacturers?
@@maynardmckillen9228 Yes and no. There can be a large difference in the current draw, but it's generally down to whether or not the welder has power factor correction. Granted, most of the cheaper, Chinese welders don't have it, but the efficiency difference is otherwise relatively small. I actually have a video about this topic: ruclips.net/video/fzkD9Zkt0K8/видео.html
@@bigtb1717 Ah, thanks. I viewed that video. Installing power factor correction components, from what I've read, doesn't seem to be that involved. A smart manufacturer, seeking an edge over competitors, would install PFC circuitry, and advertise it as a benefit that makes the welder less prone to tripping circuit breakers.
And buyers certainly benefit from the feature. More buyers need to know that they should be looking for PFC circuitry in the welders they are evaluating.
Have you considered using an oscilloscope when you evaluate welders, to show viewers the phase shifts and harmonic currents generated when there is no PFC circuitry installed?
@@maynardmckillen9228 I have thought about getting an oscilloscope/power quality analyzer. Mostly to use for work, but I could definitely make use of it in some of my reviews. But I've never taken the plunge. The ones I've considered in the past are pretty pricey.
Some welders do specifically advertise PFC. The Klutch I reviewed specifically mentions PFC in the specs.
I ordered up one of these after needing a cheap mig but didn't want a titanium from harbor freight with less weight and less duty cycle and more money, etc etc, I was getting a bit concerned when doing research into the history of yes welder and comming up with dead ends, turns out yes welder is just a trademark, yes welders are keygree welders direct from China, costumer service is a diffrent dinamic because of this and I'm not sure how many USA workers they have in the customer services, I look forward to taking a peak inside and seeing what internal components they use got it for 314$ on there site on sale with a 15% off code
I have been dealing with customer service recently, and as for numbers of customer service workers in the US, I'd say none. So far I have no major complaints, but they are definitely responding direct from China.
In fact, I may end up buying a second machine and doing an update video, based on my testing results and my interaction with customer service. I'll decide based on what I hear (or don't hear) from them by tomorrow.
I got a notification of a new comment from you, but it doesn't show up anywhere. That has been happening a lot lately. I don't know if RUclips is deleting them, or if the posters are deleting them. But I'm certainly not removing them. If you want you can try again.
I’m looking for input: my son is 15 and he’s in vocational school taking welding right now. I’d like to get something multi process that he can keep learning on and I can try to learn too. I have a tractor with loader and backhoe and implements for it and they sometimes need welding. I have an old Lincoln but it’s a cheap home cheapo deal that barely welds 1/8” metal. I’ve been seeing ads for this yeswelder but I’ve also seen Lowe’s and home cheapo have a Lincoln LE31MP that’s like $850 plus tax. Any experienced people willing to offer any advice? Thanks ahead of time. I guess the cheaper price of the yeswelder is appealing but it’s hard to know if it’s really decent or not. I do like the digital read out on it too but is the yeswelder really something my son can flourish with?
The LE31MP is a 120V welder, so it will be limited in output. Do you have a 240V circuit available, or could you put one in?
What is your budget?
@@bigtb1717 thanks for the quick reply. I’m not really stuck on a certain budget I just didn’t want to go crazy for the occasional use it would get. The yeswelder has a pretty decent price point considering it’s multi process. His instructor of course recommended Lincoln or Miller. I’m not sure but I probably want to keep it under 850. I just can’t justify spending crazy money for here and there welding. I really have no idea how much welding he’ll be doing outside of school either. Thanks again oh and I don’t have 240v but I’m quite capable of adding it.
@@lh98 Any welder you get (including the Yeswelder) will be far more capable on 240V. My biggest issue with the Yeswelder machines is how flippant the company seems to be about getting specs correct. So far, they mostly seem to perform okay for the money, though there are obviously some areas where quality falls a bit. But things like inaccurate displays/settings and inaccurate specs are the biggest annoyances for me, personally.
@@bigtb1717 the yeswelder can go up to 160 amps though right on 120v? It can probably weld 5/16th at that level and I think the LE31MP Lincoln is topped out at 140 amp. If I added a 240v at some point then the yeswelder can weld 3/8 or even 1/2”? I just watched a video where he was welding 3/8 w/yeswelder which surprised me but I think on the 240v. In terms of going places to weld something like my families homes they wouldn’t have the 240 unless you hook into the dryer plug 🤔 so I like the idea of the yeswelder being 120&240. Are there other multi process units that do both 120&240 in Lincoln that you’d recommend over the yeswelder that aren’t crazy costly?
@@lh98 The issue with the Yeswelder providing that output on 120V is that it draws 50 amps from the wall. It trips a 20 amp breaker almost immediately when running maxed out.
Also keep in mind that joint prep and process will matter quite a lot when it comes to successfully welding 3/8" thick steel with the Yeswelder, or any other machine. It would likely be possible to run a decent looking bead with a 140A MIG welder on 3/8" steel. But you'd probably get almost zero penetration, so the weld wouldn't be very strong.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not telling you this to make you spend more on a welder. I just want you to have realistic expectations.
Unfortunately, Lincoln and Miller are both costly. Lincoln does have some slightly cheaper machines that they sell at retail stores, but for a dual voltage, multi-process machine from either company you are probably looking at around $2,000 (or more).
Is MIG super important, or could you get away with stick and TIG?
Regrettably I have to say that the welder given to me at Bass Pro Shop including my Lincoln flux core welder was given to my local church. Old phone broke so I lost your number. Couldn't afford a generator to really put it to use so they were just sitting around collecting dust. Hopefully one day I'll make it up to you if not please forgive me.
Oh, nothing to forgive. You passed it along and that's totally fine. I'm sorry you didn't get to use it, but you have nothing to apologize for or make up. Cheers!
If you hold the wire feed button it will speed up after a few seconds.
I did realize this eventually. Thanks for pointing it out. I also found that pushing that button does make the wire go live, just like pulling the trigger on the MIG gun, so be aware of that too.
Should I get the warranty on it ?
In general, I never buy extra warranties on things I buy. I figure the warranty company is betting one way and they tend to make money, so the odds are that it isn't worth it. But there have been specific instances where I have bought a warranty and had it be worthwhile. I guess it would partly depend on what warranty company, what it covers and how much of a problem it would be to get anything out of the warranty if the welder ever fails. Also, how much it costs would be a factor, obviously.
You have been so helpful I. Really admire that I have one last question, should I buy the machine from their website or from Amazon. In amazon I have 30 days to return it. I'm just a little skeptical because I have send " yesweld.com " an email 1 day ago and they haven't responded . This kinda scares me you think Amazon would be better because of this issue ? It's not a 3rd party for Amazon
You would probably be okay ordering from either place, but I tend to order from Amazon, just because I know they are usually good about shipping problems, returns, etc. As for not hearing from them for a day, there was always at least a day between all my communications with then before I heard back. Sometimes two days or a bit more. Most of their replies came in the middle of the night, my time because of the time difference there. So I wouldn't worry too much, unless you don't get an answer after two or more days. Even still, I don't think there should be any problem ordering from Amazon if you are more comfortable ordering from there.
@@bigtb1717 Your the man
Are you in the US? If so, where about?
It has lift start tig
I did call it scratch start. I guess I was just thinking about the fact that you will need a torch with a valve, there is no amp control or anything like that. But it does supposedly have "lift" start. Some reviews have said it behaves more like scratch start, but I didn't test it myself. I suppose that's a bit of an oversight. If I get a chance I'll test how the lift start works and report back.
Amico came out with a NEW AMICO MIG-200 - e Bay item number:154327799988 Welder Type: 3-IN-1 MIG/TIG/STICK Combo Welder
It’s not a Miller!
Yup you come across like Mr. negative most people can’t afford a Miller or Lincoln welder since there overpriced 💯🇺🇸
You gave me an idea for a video. Thanks!
I absolutely understand that many people either cannot afford or simply don't have a justification to spend the amount of money that a Miller or a Lincoln costs. That's precisely why I review so many cheaper alternatives on this channel. I also fully understand that some concessions will have to be made to keep price down. When I point out negatives, it's not because I want everyone to buy a Miller. I have no loyalty or affiliation with any brand and I gain or lose nothing, regardless of what people buy. I point out negatives simply so people will have an idea what to expect. I try to show the performance/results and point out any possible "negatives" and then it's up to each individual to decide if the welder is right for them. I imagine many people will conclude that the downsides are a worthwhile trade-off for the price. Cool.
Also, there's no reason why inexpensive welders cannot be improved and made better over iterative models. While I've had zero interaction with Amico, several of their welders that I've reviewed have been improved in later models. I've talked directly with Yeswelder about ways they can correct issues with their welders. There's nothing wrong with pointing out ways in which a product can be improved. Even an inexpensive one.
Mister.... ELECTRODE NEGATIVE!
Perhaps if you weren't running on about how bad things are you might really appreciate the true function of the wire Feed button, it feeds with slow start and then speeds up and it's included to enable us to load the wire without activating the gas delivery.
Perhaps you should stick to massively over priced yank crap. And be happy with your bang for your bucks.
That "inch" function is so wrong! Not many machines have this feature, and then they get it wrong! "inch" should just move the wire, "Purge" should just let out gas! These are both useful and important features that most companies omit to save the price of a SWITCH! The WeldKing MIG welder has a rocker switch for INCH/PURGE, of course it's center-off. I think that is ideal. I think these new machines have a lot of obvious glaring problems but still do a lot for the price. The fact that "3-in-1" machines became universal overnight is kind of horrifying, since I think they're a bad idea... we're getting ... "anti-features" now? I don't know the name for this. Features you don't want! Then the amazing way that welding equipment seems to be sold (and maybe even designed and built!) by people who don't quite know what it's for, and can't seem to explain it, and aren't really excited about support and consumables and manuals that people could actually USE. Well, maybe they can address some of this in the next five-year plan.
Yeswelder is not Chinese
The welders are designed, made and ship directly from China. They are based in China. They have a US distribution warehouse and they also have a business address in Colorado, but that is literally just a purchased mailing address in the US, but they don't have a location there or anything.