We bought our LC 200 VX in December 2019, I guess the things I'd like to have are the usb ports at the back, apple play and bigger console display. I don't mind the 6 speed. In our country, the Philippines, all highways has a maximum speed of 100 kph, so the 10 speed of the LC 300 makes a small difference. Didn't wait for the new series, other than that our LC 200 is just fine. Thanks for the good off-road review.
Great video... again. Yes, I bought another 200 a few weeks ago to replace my previous 200. The new one had 40k on the clock, two years old and had no mods at all. I took advantage of the current market in that although I paid more for the 200 than it came out new, I also got more for my old 200 than I thought I ever would. My thoughts were also that the 200 was such a great 4WD all rounder and will probably retain better value over time as it's the last of the V8's. Similar to the last of the 4.2 Patrol engine. Time will tell on that. I also think that with the price rise of the 300 series, the aftermarket products will also be raised. I would personally never buy the latest model as there will always be a few things that need ironing out. The 200 had the excess oil burning issue. Let's see what comes out in the 300.
Would have like to see it go off-road like you’ve done with other vehicles. And I guess having buttons makes a difference, we remember when you took the Defender without reading the manual and struggled in the sand a bit
Great review guys. I have a black GR Sport with every option and loving it’s looks, interior and off-road capability. It has a powered tailgate so no problems closing. Bonnet does flap which is only small complaint. I think it would be an amazing tourer. Putting a black line Airtop Autohome on the roof will be my first mod. Sexy looking vehicle that turns heads. Very nice to drive. Lots of power/torque. Could be the best stock off-road vehicle on the planet. The missus even loves it which is a first. Doesn’t squeak.
I have had LC100 & LC200. Great cars. This is better. Just did nearly 4000km through rural victoria. The motor just wants to go and the transmission is really smooth. I love the way is backs down when you go down hills and when you tap the brakes it starts dropping down gears. Complicated, but it works. Super confortable. The tail gate is crap and android auto is usless. Glad I have it.
Good review, I think it is a great car. In Toyota Saudi the GX Turbo Diesel cost around 87K AUD (including VAT) and it comes with front and rear diffs.
The bonnet flapping was the first thing i noticed when i drove one. Good car. I say 'car' because it can feel more like a Kluger than a 4be sometimes. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but if you're after a big rowdy engine in a heavy/stupid body this isn't for you. It's pretty damn awesome on everything Aus can throw at it (i've done slop, loose rocky scree climbs, Vic high country, etc) but then again it should be for the price.
As others have said a great review, good to hear the good and bad, hopefully they will gets the panel fit ups fixed by the time we get our 300 VX, hopefully this month.
Excellent review mate. If I was still in the market for a new one, I'd probably be very happy with the 300 (GXL or VX). I bought a LC 200 VX new in 2020 (first new car ever for me). Love it!!! Recently did Stockyard point in Byfield Qld. It ate it up, no worries at all, on stock suspension and tires at about 20 PSI.
I bought a 200 2021 GXL new at list price. Very happy with it now I've modified It. Even after fixing the stuff that Toyota should have (lockers, big screen radio with Android/Apple, trans tune and lockup TC etc) I think it's a better value and better overall fit for me. The new one is lighter, which is good. Has it improved the load capacity or do you still need to do a GVM upgrade? Hopefully they got the motor reliability right first up, the V8 diesel had some issues to start with. Toyota usually do good gearboxes but how is the 10 speed with heat under load? Does it hunt through the ratios or flare? Does it get to top gear before 100kmh, the old 6 speed needed a trans tune to fix that.
Great vid Ronny, I rather enjoy these type of new vehicle tests, whilst the vehicles are not always something I may select unless my powerball numbers come up....then I will need a massive bloody shed to house the car collection, the unbiased opinion of said vehicle is interesting viewing. The extra insight of Luke was a great touch too, cheers
They've gone up 10 grand already. Whichcar on 30th January stated GX $89,990 - $138,790 for GR Sport. This must be covid tax or price gouging. No wonder the Y62 is outselling the LC 300 last month. Idk.
The prices are keeping getting crazier and crazier with every model of land cruisers anyway a great touring car with alot of capabillities and if you think this is powerful wait until you try the 3.5 twin turbo gas version which has crazy power
Add 40k in tax to any of those models in Norway if you want it with backseats. I have backseats for my Hilux, but they are stored away, cause the state demands 30k to put them in, just in tax.
It is an amazing car, no doubt! $150 plus accessories = Patrol plus 1 year earlier retirement = Second hand 200 new crate angine plus 1.5 yrs earlier retirement. It appears to be designed for the dunes for sure (biggest Toyota market is in the middle east) but what's gonna happen in the VHC with all that aluminum? It is the best car in the world for towing a caravan on bitumen and on unsealed road. Time will tell the pros and cons and I'm sure there will be more pros than cons, but I'd rather go driving my 200 than sit the in the office chair earning the money to pay for the car I like to drive.🤔
Hi Ronny I have had my vx 300 for about a month now love the car but I’m hearing what you said about the rear door not shutting on the first go 😂it’s a pain in the butt what I do is ave my hand on the Toyota badge an shut it firmly does the trick but apart from that the car is awesome the power is insane diesel engines certainly have come along way safe travels mate love your channel .cheers Bob
I'm in heaven in my 2008 Hilux D4D manual ute; No buttons to press No screens to read But it does have this amazing interface with my human brain It let's me select any gear I want I have absolute control over all breaking needs It even lets me control my own cruising speed And best of all it gives me any 4WD mode I want All just by thinking about it in my own mind . And oh yes; It came with an amazing cargo area in stock form (I was so surprised, who would have thought).
Put my deposit down almost 5 months ago for a 300 VX, will be my first 4wd. Can't wait to get out exploring. Only wish it came with lockers and had better roof capacity, but I can live with it as it is. No arguing the price has gone up, but the flip side of that coin is they're not depreciating second hand, they're selling for more currently! So worst case scenario even if I don't like it I'm sure it won't be difficult to offload
To respond to your questions at the end, I did buy a 200 series when they announced the end of production and have no regrets. I love the split tailgate but hate the gearbox but the killer feature is the V8 sound (once the exhaust is changed). No doubt the new V6 is more powerful and more economical, but the V8 note on the 200 series just gets me on an emotional level.
So far both Landcruiser 300 review by Ronny & 4WD247 seems non KDSS LAnd Cruiser 300s. Wonder if Ausi don't like KDSS? Any reason? Reliability? Lift issues? Chop & Extending limitations on conversions?
Would love to see the chop after its done. I feel like the LC300 from factory cannot be tuned or worked to give more power and torque against the LC200 with the V8 that has so much more potential with a tune.
Hi Ronny one thing I noticed when you say about shutting the back door even on the Fortuner that's only because of the amount of air getting trapped making the sealing of the car very good. If you open a front door or window it allows air to escape.
Speaking as a grey Nomad planning to do another big lap towing a heavy off road caravan I'm seriously thinking about trading in my 200 series on a RAM2500. The price of a 300 series plus a GVM upgrade makes the RAM a serious consideration plus I can tow more with the RAM.
I think manufacturers are doing it deliberately now. Used to be that technology was used to do things that couldn't be done before. Now they use technology for the sake of it, which makes DIY repairs and maintenance impossible and ties you to a dealer until the warranty runs out and then, basically, makes the vehicle into a financial timebomb. You could have bought a 70 series in 1985, serviced and repaired it yourself and it'd still be just as reliable today. Does anybody seriously think that'll be possible with a 300 series? Let's face it, this is a disposable product, just like 15 year old Range Rovers and BMW X5s etc.
nice you are lucky to get LC300, diesels and 70 series LC ,all we get in the US are indpendent rear axle , 3 row ,leather, sunroof, luxury wagons . id pay $73k US$ for a basic base model GX LC 300 ,,over a defender or new bronco ,gr sport is $111k us $ which we cant have
Cost of new vehicles is crazy. However it’s not the manufactures fault. Top of range 300 is 150k driveaway. This includes Luxury car tax = 26k, GST = 9k add dealer cost, stamp duty, third party insurance and registration. Take that off and the 300 is value for money. Gotta love our government
Hey ronny love your videos man, keep up the good work, ronny could you do a video on SWB vs LwB in off road conditions pros and cons of each can't seem to find a vi's in the subject.
Guys…….I suggest you probably need to slam the door to get good closure on the rubber seals…….e.g seals are new and need a little compression which would be essential for keeping dust and moisture out. That’s my theory……..once again a good honest story. Would love to see a project 300 mod series similar to project Luxy. Cheers
Hi, great review. After upgrading the tyres for off road, what psi to run on road? For off road I get it, but on road? Should I use the vehicle default values?
If you are running empty, then the psi on the door jam is a good place to start. If your new tires have a higher load rating, you can start adjusting downwards from there. I did the chalk test to check the contact patch to make sure all of the tread was touching. If you are loaded up with several hundred pounds of gear, start a few psi above the door jam recommendation. As an example, my truck's stock PSI is 26 front and 29 rear. I got some E rated 33" mud terrains, and when I was running empty stock weights, I eventually settled on 24 psi on all 4 corners. This gave me the best ride while also keeping the contact patch even. Now after adding a camper shell, front and rear steel bumper, swing out tire carrier, engine skid plate, transmission skid plate, and rock sliders, I have bumped up the psi to 26 psi on all 4 corners. As I prepare for a 3K mile trip and get the back loaded up with all my gear and things strapped to the roof of the camper, I will adjust the PSI again. I an estimating adding around 500lbs of gear, mostly on the back, so my rear tire PSI is probably going to go up more than the front. If my PSI seems low, I have a 1999 Tacoma which is light weight from the factor (under 3500lbs stock). Newer truck's are 500-700lbs more stock, so they are around 30-32psi from factory.
But is it worth the $55k extra on top of the equivalent Prado? It tows an extra 500 kilos, big deal. 🙄 That’s an extra $110 / kilo of extra tow capacity. It’s got 2 more cylinders. The 150 Prado has 150 Killer Wasps & 500 Neutron bombs. The 300 series has 227 Killer Wasps & 700 Neutron Bombs. So my extra $55K buys me an extra 77 killer wasps & 200 Neutron bombs. That’s $714 / Killer Wasp & $275/ Neutron Bomb. Do you really need it at those costs and how much extra fuel used to achieve that? Also how much less engine life with twin turbos wringing the neck of that V6 to get those figures? I’m not sold on the 300 series yet myself. That said in fairness I haven’t driven one, maybe if it sucks my ass crack back between the seat and backrest under acceleration and puts a wide eyed stupid grin on my face I might feel different maybe. Toyota honestly needs to come up with something to compete against the big yank tanks for hauling big boys toys over 3.5 tonne in my opinion. Cruisers just aren’t going to cut it. I sold my 1HD-T 4.2 TD 80 series to tow my 3.5 tonne boat because the boat pushed the cruiser all over the road due to wind age on the hull and cabin. West coast sea breezes are pretty savage, just look at the trees in Greenough south of Geraldton that grow flat along the ground due to the wind. I ended up buying a 7.3 Powerstroke F250 and towing the boat was chalk and cheese. Making the 300 series lighter with alloy body panels etc to gain extra payload just means it’s even less capable of the 3.5 tonne towing duties in stiff winds here in the west. Last thing you want is the tail wagging the dog. If you want to tow the full 3.5 tonne (or more) then for cruiser money you can buy a 4WD dual can tray back truck & have a big chunk of change left over for modifications and accessories. Cruiser 300 just isn’t going to cut it long term for what most guys want in terms of towing duties, at least here in WA anyway. Yes they will get chassis chopped and lengthened and full sized trays added - but then your talking about ~ $250k + for which you can buy a couple Hino trucks ffs. The sooner bogans just start saying “no” to the Toyota dealers and start buying real trucks the better - because we are talking half the cost of a house in WA. Look at Justin & Bec (Trip in a Van), with their custom 200 series dual cab ute at around $240 k - ish and their caravan at $150k. There’s your house cost! Ones a depreciating asset that costs a small fortune you will never get back. The house appreciates - you can rent it out ‘ negative gear it. The rent will buy you the Hino truck.
I've got a 2020 200VX which has a GCM of 6850 kgs. I tow a caravan and I need every one of the kgs to tow it. To see that the 300 only has a 6750 GCM is disappointing. Also, a deal breaker for me would be that there is no drop down tailgate in the 300. Other than that, its looks pretty good.
The 300VX is 90kg lighter unladen but the GVM is 50kg less. Giving you a total load of 40kg more than a 200 of the same trim. Split tailgates are pretty bad stock for dust sealing and reaching over to get into the back of a car.
Interesting, a lot of the Toyota's I'm familiar with over in the states have black-ish interiors. Now I can't speak for everything, just a few rigs I've poked my head into recently. On a practical note, my Tacoma's roof lining/sun visors/door panels/dash etc overall is black with dark gray seats.
I see why the 62 is out selling the 300s not a fan at all the design prefer the 200 by a long shot seemed more beefy interior is nice no lockers is pretty average at this price point.
This is actually one of the slowest 0-100 I've seen for the 3.3 V6 diesel. The fastest time I've seen is 0-100 in 7.26 seconds. You will need to brake torque it hard though. GR diesel dyno + 0-100 and 0-400m run: ruclips.net/video/Uhbpf-4tNhc/видео.html
Keen to see the chop aka UTE version. I have a 200 and have driven the 300. I still prefer the 200 because I am biased 😄. Kidding aside, I'd pick the 300 if I'm doing mostly city/tarmac. For touring, I prefer the 200 - it has more of that planted & bulletproof feel + V8 engine sound is sweeter and more effortless than the V6. Also, 300 engine bay has no space for a 2nd battery?
Seems like a good unit, be interesting to see how they go once people start loading them ala.. front and rear bars,winches,rooftop tents,long range tanks..etc..etc.
The payload for this large 4wd wagon is piss poor. Not a good selling point. Once you fit a steel bar(s), winch, 2nd battery, load the roof up, tow something strongly built on the towball you’re not left with much.
Overall I'm not that impressed with the 300, the engine has plenty of power, but the interior is missing the mark. Its getting further away from being a four-wheel drive and more to a soccer mom's car. Personally, I'm looking forward to the Grenadier. Been in the prototype and was more impressed with that over the 300.
My mate just bought to last 200 instead of the 300. I’ve got the new Defender. Trying not to be biased, but the main thing that is better in the 200 is the bigger space. Boot area is noticeably bigger, which is important for touring. Other massive pro with the 200 is the fuel capacity. My Defender only has 89l capacity, and I can’t see any space for adding an extra fuel tank. But in every other way, my Defender is far superior to the 200. I’ve seen another review with the 300 and Defender and the latter one comes out tops on that one. But I do think the 300 would be better on sand.
No doubt the defender in essence is a better car. But as is always the case with euro cars, there are few aftermarket accessories, no options for gvm upgrades and once you are away from the major cities no dealerships or places that can repair them. There are Toyota dealerships in Broome, Kununurra, Longreach, Broken Hill etc. I live in the outback, and we only see land rovers passing through
Hi Grant, Interesting observations, I love everything about the defender except the fact its made by LR. After being stranded 1000kms from home and having a holiday ruined in my meticulously maintained D3 I will never buy another LR. Even though I think you would be right regarding the features etc I don't know how you could ever trust it remotely. Also the deprecation is eye watering if you buy new.
Good point about the dealership availability. I live in South Africa and haven’t noticed that here yet. But planning trips to Mozambique and Namibia and I do expect Toyota to have better representation there. As for depreciation, both the LR and Toyota come with significant premiums these days, unless you are prepared to wait for a year, like me. But even a 2nd hand Defender with 50,000kms on the clock is going for about 8% above the new price, because of demand. I have a pretty unique spec, and could probably sell it right now for 70% more than the current listing price (it’s 1 month old).
I'm going to wish you well with the Defender because I think you will need it. We did a wet & muddy 4WD trip with one late last year with about 20 vehicles, old and new. The newest was a 110 where the owner had swapped the OEM 22" rims for 20" rims and better rubber to come on the trip. How ridiculous are standard 22" rims on a 4WD? Anyway, it went very well on the trip, but the day after it got back home it wouldn't start and got flatbedded to the dealer, so maybe some water/mud in the electrics or something. This is what you have to get used to with a Defender. I've had 7 or 8 of the old (classic) Defenders, but I won't be going near the new model. Way too complicated and fragile. So now LR don't have a working vehicle in their range, just a shed load of luxury models. Sad.
The price is high and I'm still waiting for the 285 tires. I don't understand why there is no rear door to the sides like the LC105. Everything else can be.
you forget about the oil >they made it like Unimog > when you go up Mountains and hills The temperature always rises because the oil does not reach some cylinders .It was designed to address this problem
Is it the Sequoia that you guys have? In 2023 I am pretty sure it will be on virtually the same global undercarriage platform as the LC. I also believe in 2023 it will have petrol hybrid V6. That is the future. Diesels are on the way out. Plus, you can have it in ute form with the Tundra. You guys have so much more choice.
@@garrygraham7901 Yes, we do get the Sequoia. Yes, the Tundra, Sequoia, and Land Cruiser frames are related, but no, the Sequoia isn't a suitable substitute for the Land Cruiser. The Sequoia is much larger then the Land Cruiser, with a much longer wheelbase. As a result, its turning circle and breakover angle is horrid. Its approach and departure angles are worse as well. It doesn't have the wonderful Land Cruiser KDSS system nor does it have the lockable Torsen center differential. The Land Cruiser is already a bit bigger than I need. I take my 200 off-road on trails that the Sequoia simply wouldn't be able to make without damage.
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD The LX grille is completely hideous and ruins the approach angle. The built-in side steps would be destroyed off-road and it is harder to remove them in a way that looks good than to remove the 200 side steps and replace with rock sliders (as I've done on my 200). In addition, the Land Cruiser will always have more options for off-road bumpers than the Land Cruiser.
2:40 no, 50/50 split is what an open diff does. 50/50 means equal, as in one axle can only generate as much torque as the other axle is able to. So if you lose traction on your axle the other axle is limited to that amount of torque. . Center diff lock doesn’t care what the other wheel is doing, it will develop as much torque as the axle is capable.
Ronnie I googled the roof carrying capacity of the 300 and it said the roof is rated to carry 92kg on GX models and 90kg on the higher-spec variants.5 Oct 2021. If this is true capacity is less than half of the 200. What do you think?
Does it have adjustable suspension? And does it have off road drive modes? To me it looks quite low tech when compared to a discovery 5 but being out bush maybe that’s preferable
Not in sand unless you get bogged although I do like using a rear locker when going down steep dunes. Lockers are more for other terrains where you start lifting wheels ect
I like Toyota 4wds. I liked the 100 & 200 series. I haven’t driven the 300, but based purely on looks alone, I don’t like it that for $100k you get a black grille, black driving light surround & black bottom half on the mirrors. I know there’s no points for buying the first cab off the rank models because you’ll get crap black external plastic which will be improved upon in facelifts later on with chrome, but for $100k you’d expect the bells and whistles. I can’t stand the look of the rear end and the wheel arches. I bet there was divide over that in the boardroom in Japan. They appear to be very obvious flaws to me, but fingers crossed may be corrected in a facelift in nearly a decade’s time or something. It’s a car shape that’ll definitely look dated by the time manufacturing it runs its course in 12-15yrs. The engine appears good, but no V8 option for a $100-$150k 4wd that’s had them for so long now = fail (a bit of a fail in my opinion for this market). Right now I’m going to decide that I don’t like it and will see if the facelifts grow on me in a few years time. I definitely prefer the 200 series compared to the 300. The Landcruiser sales were so strong compared to the current Patrol & American Ute imports. I can see a swing in sales & more potential Landcruiser buyers than ever before steer towards the Dodge Ram, Chev Silverado & Ford F-150 (Raptor version incl).
G’day I went 4 wheeling yesterday with a mate in his new 300 Sahara we drove some reasonably steep Highcountry Tks . The 300 handle them all without a problem but we did notice when ascending a steep low range Tk , when the vehicle was in manual mode it still changed up gears , which seems strange the stick was definitely knocked across into manual and showing what gear it was in on the dash , is this a feature of the 10 speed in the 300 , just doesn’t make sense and no we weren’t boring the piss into it , just climbing steadily.
Great review R. I was looking at a GXL but was very disappointed to find out there is no GPS in that spec! You need to go to VX for another $18k. All other GXL spec Toyota 4WD’s get GPS how can it not be on their hero model???
Its funny all reviews are all positive...biased and ripping out of Australians. Not at all value for money and clearly incapable offroad ( sand is not all offroad) when compared to 200 if you go deep onto mods prices compared. Didnt expect this from the great Ronny #withrespect
You have to wonder why stretch a suv to a Ute? Especially these new expensive land cruisers it just costs mental money and is it really worth it? I can understand an old rig that’s got a broken body and chopping it gives it a new life but I’m not sure about these others
@@repentfromsinfollowjesus2953 yeah I get that, it just seems crazy to me spending thousands on a luxury suv then chopping half of it off spending many thousands in the process when you could just buy a Ute
I love LC. but for a 100K (140K) car they should include at least front and rear lockers as standard.
With a couple kilos of coke and some strippers.
Most people will never take them off-road so why would Toyota put lockers in it 😂
ATRAC!!!
Toyota sells it at 72kin china. I just bought one 3 weeks ago … plenty of them in stock
Gr sport variant has them lockers
We bought our LC 200 VX in December 2019, I guess the things I'd like to have are the usb ports at the back, apple play and bigger console display. I don't mind the 6 speed. In our country, the Philippines, all highways has a maximum speed of 100 kph, so the 10 speed of the LC 300 makes a small difference. Didn't wait for the new series, other than that our LC 200 is just fine. Thanks for the good off-road review.
We have a chinese display in it, looks great and works great. Almost as big as a tesla display
How much philepin piso did you bouhgt the LC 200 vx?
Great video... again. Yes, I bought another 200 a few weeks ago to replace my previous 200. The new one had 40k on the clock, two years old and had no mods at all. I took advantage of the current market in that although I paid more for the 200 than it came out new, I also got more for my old 200 than I thought I ever would. My thoughts were also that the 200 was such a great 4WD all rounder and will probably retain better value over time as it's the last of the V8's. Similar to the last of the 4.2 Patrol engine. Time will tell on that. I also think that with the price rise of the 300 series, the aftermarket products will also be raised. I would personally never buy the latest model as there will always be a few things that need ironing out. The 200 had the excess oil burning issue. Let's see what comes out in the 300.
Would have like to see it go off-road like you’ve done with other vehicles. And I guess having buttons makes a difference, we remember when you took the Defender without reading the manual and struggled in the sand a bit
Great review guys. I have a black GR Sport with every option and loving it’s looks, interior and off-road capability. It has a powered tailgate so no problems closing. Bonnet does flap which is only small complaint. I think it would be an amazing tourer. Putting a black line Airtop Autohome on the roof will be my first mod. Sexy looking vehicle that turns heads. Very nice to drive. Lots of power/torque. Could be the best stock off-road vehicle on the planet. The missus even loves it which is a first. Doesn’t squeak.
Here in Murica we get this Landcruiser ad the Lexus LX600. Same car. Excellent vehicles for refined offroading!
Late model 200 over here have adaptive cruise control (Radar cruise as you called it)
Like the tailgate on the 200 better
Great honest review 👍👍
I have had LC100 & LC200. Great cars. This is better. Just did nearly 4000km through rural victoria. The motor just wants to go and the transmission is really smooth. I love the way is backs down when you go down hills and when you tap the brakes it starts dropping down gears. Complicated, but it works. Super confortable. The tail gate is crap and android auto is usless. Glad I have it.
As per usual great explanation of the vehicle hope we get to see the chop complete
Good review, I think it is a great car. In Toyota Saudi the GX Turbo Diesel cost around 87K AUD (including VAT) and it comes with front and rear diffs.
That’s so cheap compared to Australia
@@tilan6944 All cars are overpriced here.
89K
In KSA, it cost AED 150,000. I don’t know where you got 87aud from.
The bonnet flapping was the first thing i noticed when i drove one. Good car. I say 'car' because it can feel more like a Kluger than a 4be sometimes. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but if you're after a big rowdy engine in a heavy/stupid body this isn't for you. It's pretty damn awesome on everything Aus can throw at it (i've done slop, loose rocky scree climbs, Vic high country, etc) but then again it should be for the price.
As others have said a great review, good to hear the good and bad, hopefully they will gets the panel fit ups fixed by the time we get our 300 VX, hopefully this month.
Knowing Toyota they will.
Good review Ronny. I'd love to see a video or 2 on the 300 getting chopped and the mods he does to it.
Excellent review mate. If I was still in the market for a new one, I'd probably be very happy with the 300 (GXL or VX). I bought a LC 200 VX new in 2020 (first new car ever for me). Love it!!! Recently did Stockyard point in Byfield Qld. It ate it up, no worries at all, on stock suspension and tires at about 20 PSI.
Great review. Would like to see when the conversion is done.
I bought a 200 2021 GXL new at list price. Very happy with it now I've modified It. Even after fixing the stuff that Toyota should have (lockers, big screen radio with Android/Apple, trans tune and lockup TC etc) I think it's a better value and better overall fit for me. The new one is lighter, which is good. Has it improved the load capacity or do you still need to do a GVM upgrade?
Hopefully they got the motor reliability right first up, the V8 diesel had some issues to start with. Toyota usually do good gearboxes but how is the 10 speed with heat under load? Does it hunt through the ratios or flare? Does it get to top gear before 100kmh, the old 6 speed needed a trans tune to fix that.
Great vid Ronny, I rather enjoy these type of new vehicle tests, whilst the vehicles are not always something I may select unless my powerball numbers come up....then I will need a massive bloody shed to house the car collection, the unbiased opinion of said vehicle is interesting viewing. The extra insight of Luke was a great touch too, cheers
They've gone up 10 grand already. Whichcar on 30th January stated GX $89,990 - $138,790 for GR Sport. This must be covid tax or price gouging. No wonder the Y62 is outselling the LC 300 last month. Idk.
The prices are keeping getting crazier and crazier with every model of land cruisers anyway a great touring car with alot of capabillities and if you think this is powerful wait until you try the 3.5 twin turbo gas version which has crazy power
looks at the used market crazier mate
Or wait until it gets an electric hybrid in it. The torque will be nuts.
Dam straight I want to see the end results
Thanks for the review 👍
I love mine!
Wishlist: another 20 litres fuel capacity, increase maximum roof load to 200 kg, proper 12 v plug in rear
Add 40k in tax to any of those models in Norway if you want it with backseats.
I have backseats for my Hilux, but they are stored away, cause the state demands 30k to put them in, just in tax.
22.27 - the "comfortability" cracks me up! not having a dig Luke, just havin' a chuckle! Envious of your awesome vehicle.
It is an amazing car, no doubt!
$150 plus accessories = Patrol plus 1 year earlier retirement = Second hand 200 new crate angine plus 1.5 yrs earlier retirement.
It appears to be designed for the dunes for sure (biggest Toyota market is in the middle east) but what's gonna happen in the VHC with all that aluminum?
It is the best car in the world for towing a caravan on bitumen and on unsealed road.
Time will tell the pros and cons and I'm sure there will be more pros than cons, but I'd rather go driving my 200 than sit the in the office chair earning the money to pay for the car I like to drive.🤔
Hi Ronny I have had my vx 300 for about a month now love the car but I’m hearing what you said about the rear door not shutting on the first go 😂it’s a pain in the butt what I do is ave my hand on the Toyota badge an shut it firmly does the trick but apart from that the car is awesome the power is insane diesel engines certainly have come along way safe travels mate love your channel .cheers Bob
I'm in heaven in my 2008 Hilux D4D manual ute;
No buttons to press
No screens to read
But it does have this amazing interface with my human brain
It let's me select any gear I want
I have absolute control over all breaking needs
It even lets me control my own cruising speed
And best of all it gives me any 4WD mode I want
All just by thinking about it in my own mind .
And oh yes;
It came with an amazing cargo area in stock form (I was so surprised, who would have thought).
@@ChristosIsHe and driving in the bush without a seatbelt and no warnings of any kind.
Put my deposit down almost 5 months ago for a 300 VX, will be my first 4wd. Can't wait to get out exploring. Only wish it came with lockers and had better roof capacity, but I can live with it as it is.
No arguing the price has gone up, but the flip side of that coin is they're not depreciating second hand, they're selling for more currently!
So worst case scenario even if I don't like it I'm sure it won't be difficult to offload
To respond to your questions at the end, I did buy a 200 series when they announced the end of production and have no regrets. I love the split tailgate but hate the gearbox but the killer feature is the V8 sound (once the exhaust is changed). No doubt the new V6 is more powerful and more economical, but the V8 note on the 200 series just gets me on an emotional level.
Please do a 300 series build Ronny !
More reviews soon Ronny surely. These were great
Very keen to follow the chop
"This is the best stock off-roader I've ever driven!"
The Dahl has spoken
I worry when I watch these reviews I sometimes end up at the Toyota dealership 🤣 that's how I ended up with the fortuner.
So far both Landcruiser 300 review by Ronny & 4WD247 seems non KDSS LAnd Cruiser 300s. Wonder if Ausi don't like KDSS? Any reason? Reliability? Lift issues? Chop & Extending limitations on conversions?
Might be availability..
Would love to see the chop after its done. I feel like the LC300 from factory cannot be tuned or worked to give more power and torque against the LC200 with the V8 that has so much more potential with a tune.
I wouldn’t tune any of them, maybe it’s just been a 60 year old diesel mechanic though.
Ronny thanks for the video and yes please would like to see the LC300 chopped 👍
Hi Ronny one thing I noticed when you say about shutting the back door even on the Fortuner that's only because of the amount of air getting trapped making the sealing of the car very good. If you open a front door or window it allows air to escape.
The more complicated they get the more I love me ol’ fte 100 series
Lol idiot 100 series couldnt pull the skin off a reice pudding. 120km/h top speed.
Speaking as a grey Nomad planning to do another big lap towing a heavy off road caravan I'm seriously thinking about trading in my 200 series on a RAM2500. The price of a 300 series plus a GVM upgrade makes the RAM a serious consideration plus I can tow more with the RAM.
I think manufacturers are doing it deliberately now.
Used to be that technology was used to do things that couldn't be done before.
Now they use technology for the sake of it, which makes DIY repairs and maintenance impossible and ties you to a dealer until the warranty runs out and then, basically, makes the vehicle into a financial timebomb.
You could have bought a 70 series in 1985, serviced and repaired it yourself and it'd still be just as reliable today.
Does anybody seriously think that'll be possible with a 300 series?
Let's face it, this is a disposable product, just like 15 year old Range Rovers and BMW X5s etc.
nice you are lucky to get LC300, diesels and 70 series LC ,all we get in the US are indpendent rear axle , 3 row ,leather, sunroof, luxury wagons . id pay $73k US$ for a basic base model GX LC 300 ,,over a defender or new bronco ,gr sport is $111k us $ which we cant have
I sill love the 70 series and the 76 wagon
Cost of new vehicles is crazy. However it’s not the manufactures fault. Top of range 300 is 150k driveaway. This includes Luxury car tax = 26k, GST = 9k add dealer cost, stamp duty, third party insurance and registration. Take that off and the 300 is value for money. Gotta love our government
Hey ronny love your videos man, keep up the good work, ronny could you do a video on SWB vs LwB in off road conditions pros and cons of each can't seem to find a vi's in the subject.
Guys…….I suggest you probably need to slam the door to get good closure on the rubber seals…….e.g seals are new and need a little compression which would be essential for keeping dust and moisture out. That’s my theory……..once again a good honest story. Would love to see a project 300 mod series similar to project Luxy. Cheers
Hi, great review. After upgrading the tyres for off road, what psi to run on road? For off road I get it, but on road? Should I use the vehicle default values?
If you are running empty, then the psi on the door jam is a good place to start.
If your new tires have a higher load rating, you can start adjusting downwards from there. I did the chalk test to check the contact patch to make sure all of the tread was touching.
If you are loaded up with several hundred pounds of gear, start a few psi above the door jam recommendation.
As an example, my truck's stock PSI is 26 front and 29 rear. I got some E rated 33" mud terrains, and when I was running empty stock weights, I eventually settled on 24 psi on all 4 corners. This gave me the best ride while also keeping the contact patch even.
Now after adding a camper shell, front and rear steel bumper, swing out tire carrier, engine skid plate, transmission skid plate, and rock sliders, I have bumped up the psi to 26 psi on all 4 corners.
As I prepare for a 3K mile trip and get the back loaded up with all my gear and things strapped to the roof of the camper, I will adjust the PSI again. I an estimating adding around 500lbs of gear, mostly on the back, so my rear tire PSI is probably going to go up more than the front.
If my PSI seems low, I have a 1999 Tacoma which is light weight from the factor (under 3500lbs stock). Newer truck's are 500-700lbs more stock, so they are around 30-32psi from factory.
But is it worth the $55k extra on top of the equivalent Prado?
It tows an extra 500 kilos, big deal. 🙄
That’s an extra $110 / kilo of extra tow capacity.
It’s got 2 more cylinders.
The 150 Prado has 150 Killer Wasps & 500 Neutron bombs.
The 300 series has 227 Killer Wasps & 700 Neutron Bombs.
So my extra $55K buys me an extra 77 killer wasps & 200 Neutron bombs.
That’s $714 / Killer Wasp & $275/ Neutron Bomb.
Do you really need it at those costs and how much extra fuel used to achieve that? Also how much less engine life with twin turbos wringing the neck of that V6 to get those figures?
I’m not sold on the 300 series yet myself.
That said in fairness I haven’t driven one, maybe if it sucks my ass crack back between the seat and backrest under acceleration and puts a wide eyed stupid grin on my face I might feel different maybe.
Toyota honestly needs to come up with something to compete against the big yank tanks for hauling big boys toys over 3.5 tonne in my opinion.
Cruisers just aren’t going to cut it. I sold my 1HD-T 4.2 TD 80 series to tow my 3.5 tonne boat because the boat pushed the cruiser all over the road due to wind age on the hull and cabin. West coast sea breezes are pretty savage, just look at the trees in Greenough south of Geraldton that grow flat along the ground due to the wind.
I ended up buying a 7.3 Powerstroke F250 and towing the boat was chalk and cheese.
Making the 300 series lighter with alloy body panels etc to gain extra payload just means it’s even less capable of the 3.5 tonne towing duties in stiff winds here in the west.
Last thing you want is the tail wagging the dog.
If you want to tow the full 3.5 tonne (or more) then for cruiser money you can buy a 4WD dual can tray back truck & have a big chunk of change left over for modifications and accessories.
Cruiser 300 just isn’t going to cut it long term for what most guys want in terms of towing duties, at least here in WA anyway.
Yes they will get chassis chopped and lengthened and full sized trays added - but then your talking about ~ $250k + for which you can buy a couple Hino trucks ffs.
The sooner bogans just start saying “no” to the Toyota dealers and start buying real trucks the better - because we are talking half the cost of a house in WA.
Look at Justin & Bec (Trip in a Van), with their custom 200 series dual cab ute at around $240 k - ish and their caravan at $150k.
There’s your house cost!
Ones a depreciating asset that costs a small fortune you will never get back. The house appreciates - you can rent it out ‘ negative gear it.
The rent will buy you the Hino truck.
Can't really compare it to a prado because it's the next size up but apart from that I agree.
I've got a 2020 200VX which has a GCM of 6850 kgs. I tow a caravan and I need every one of the kgs to tow it. To see that the 300 only has a 6750 GCM is disappointing. Also, a deal breaker for me would be that there is no drop down tailgate in the 300. Other than that, its looks pretty good.
What other comparable car has a split tailgate? It’s different, everyone whinging about the tailgate will come around eventually, you’ll have to.
The 300VX is 90kg lighter unladen but the GVM is 50kg less. Giving you a total load of 40kg more than a 200 of the same trim.
Split tailgates are pretty bad stock for dust sealing and reaching over to get into the back of a car.
Interesting, a lot of the Toyota's I'm familiar with over in the states have black-ish interiors.
Now I can't speak for everything, just a few rigs I've poked my head into recently.
On a practical note, my Tacoma's roof lining/sun visors/door panels/dash etc overall is black with dark gray seats.
I see why the 62 is out selling the 300s not a fan at all the design prefer the 200 by a long shot seemed more beefy interior is nice no lockers is pretty average at this price point.
It's not outselling the 300's. The 300 is in such high demand that there's a waiting list.
There's no waiting list for Patrols.
@@electrikoptik It did outsell the 300 last month.
@@4x4CampingandAdventures Mate, you do realize that the 300-series is in limited release right? You're comparing apples to oranges.
I know new V6 got a bad wrap before release. 9 seconds 0 100 and powerful enough… great review.
This is actually one of the slowest 0-100 I've seen for the 3.3 V6 diesel. The fastest time I've seen is 0-100 in 7.26 seconds. You will need to brake torque it hard though.
GR diesel dyno + 0-100 and 0-400m run: ruclips.net/video/Uhbpf-4tNhc/видео.html
@@electrikoptik thanks for the link. Wow
Ronny did you find the interior and seats rattle? From the start of your video it does look like they rattle a bit.
The back end has the crease for a bit fold but is only a lift up
great review. would like to see updates and process of whats involved of the stretch
Keen to see the chop aka UTE version.
I have a 200 and have driven the 300. I still prefer the 200 because I am biased 😄. Kidding aside, I'd pick the 300 if I'm doing mostly city/tarmac. For touring, I prefer the 200 - it has more of that planted & bulletproof feel + V8 engine sound is sweeter and more effortless than the V6. Also, 300 engine bay has no space for a 2nd battery?
Seems like a good unit, be interesting to see how they go once people start loading them ala.. front and rear bars,winches,rooftop tents,long range tanks..etc..etc.
The payload for this large 4wd wagon is piss poor. Not a good selling point. Once you fit a steel bar(s), winch, 2nd battery, load the roof up, tow something strongly built on the towball you’re not left with much.
nice review but on most off sand driving you can use Hi Range, this car have power to manage that terrain easly withouth Low Range.
Finally getting the chop. Looking forward to a review OTF
Great review... A really good question is... Where is the fuel filter located on the 300 ?? Hahah !!
Overall I'm not that impressed with the 300, the engine has plenty of power, but the interior is missing the mark. Its getting further away from being a four-wheel drive and more to a soccer mom's car. Personally, I'm looking forward to the Grenadier. Been in the prototype and was more impressed with that over the 300.
Grenadiers is - crap.!
@@V.T.F.W ok I'll bite, why?
The interior’s great what are you talking about?
Although to be fair, it’s only worth it if you’re getting the Sahara and above.
My mate just bought to last 200 instead of the 300. I’ve got the new Defender. Trying not to be biased, but the main thing that is better in the 200 is the bigger space. Boot area is noticeably bigger, which is important for touring. Other massive pro with the 200 is the fuel capacity. My Defender only has 89l capacity, and I can’t see any space for adding an extra fuel tank. But in every other way, my Defender is far superior to the 200. I’ve seen another review with the 300 and Defender and the latter one comes out tops on that one. But I do think the 300 would be better on sand.
No doubt the defender in essence is a better car. But as is always the case with euro cars, there are few aftermarket accessories, no options for gvm upgrades and once you are away from the major cities no dealerships or places that can repair them. There are Toyota dealerships in Broome, Kununurra, Longreach, Broken Hill etc. I live in the outback, and we only see land rovers passing through
Hi Grant, Interesting observations, I love everything about the defender except the fact its made by LR. After being stranded 1000kms from home and having a holiday ruined in my meticulously maintained D3 I will never buy another LR. Even though I think you would be right regarding the features etc I don't know how you could ever trust it remotely. Also the deprecation is eye watering if you buy new.
Good point about the dealership availability. I live in South Africa and haven’t noticed that here yet. But planning trips to Mozambique and Namibia and I do expect Toyota to have better representation there. As for depreciation, both the LR and Toyota come with significant premiums these days, unless you are prepared to wait for a year, like me. But even a 2nd hand Defender with 50,000kms on the clock is going for about 8% above the new price, because of demand. I have a pretty unique spec, and could probably sell it right now for 70% more than the current listing price (it’s 1 month old).
@Jon Y. Not sure about that Jon, in fact I did a 4x4 pass today and recovered a Pajero on the way up.
I'm going to wish you well with the Defender because I think you will need it. We did a wet & muddy 4WD trip with one late last year with about 20 vehicles, old and new. The newest was a 110 where the owner had swapped the OEM 22" rims for 20" rims and better rubber to come on the trip. How ridiculous are standard 22" rims on a 4WD? Anyway, it went very well on the trip, but the day after it got back home it wouldn't start and got flatbedded to the dealer, so maybe some water/mud in the electrics or something. This is what you have to get used to with a Defender. I've had 7 or 8 of the old (classic) Defenders, but I won't be going near the new model. Way too complicated and fragile. So now LR don't have a working vehicle in their range, just a shed load of luxury models. Sad.
this was a great review mate
The price is high and I'm still waiting for the 285 tires. I don't understand why there is no rear door to the sides like the LC105. Everything else can be.
you forget about the oil >they made it like Unimog > when you go up Mountains and hills The temperature always rises because the oil does not reach some cylinders .It was designed to address this problem
As the owner of a 200 Series, I'm so bummed that Toyota isn't going to sell the 300 in the US.
Is it the Sequoia that you guys have? In 2023 I am pretty sure it will be on virtually the same global undercarriage platform as the LC. I also believe in 2023 it will have petrol hybrid V6. That is the future. Diesels are on the way out. Plus, you can have it in ute form with the Tundra. You guys have so much more choice.
I feel ya. The only way to get the 300-series in the US is to buy the LX.
Here in Murica we get this Landcruiser as the Lexus LX600... same vehicle
@@garrygraham7901 Yes, we do get the Sequoia. Yes, the Tundra, Sequoia, and Land Cruiser frames are related, but no, the Sequoia isn't a suitable substitute for the Land Cruiser. The Sequoia is much larger then the Land Cruiser, with a much longer wheelbase. As a result, its turning circle and breakover angle is horrid. Its approach and departure angles are worse as well. It doesn't have the wonderful Land Cruiser KDSS system nor does it have the lockable Torsen center differential. The Land Cruiser is already a bit bigger than I need.
I take my 200 off-road on trails that the Sequoia simply wouldn't be able to make without damage.
@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD The LX grille is completely hideous and ruins the approach angle. The built-in side steps would be destroyed off-road and it is harder to remove them in a way that looks good than to remove the 200 side steps and replace with rock sliders (as I've done on my 200). In addition, the Land Cruiser will always have more options for off-road bumpers than the Land Cruiser.
Hitting the gym Ronny!
2:40 no, 50/50 split is what an open diff does. 50/50 means equal, as in one axle can only generate as much torque as the other axle is able to. So if you lose traction on your axle the other axle is limited to that amount of torque.
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Center diff lock doesn’t care what the other wheel is doing, it will develop as much torque as the axle is capable.
Been waiting for Ronny to review this! Defo want to see it chopped!
I have the LC 200 VXS and I have Radar cruise control (Adaptive Cruise Control)
What's the 3rd row seating like? Being a family of 6 I notice there's not much on the market with decent 3rd row seating
Price is nuts!!! 😂😂😂
Be good for you to do follow up vids of the chop and then another review once its all finished to compare standard to chopped
I don't understand why the interior designers of all cars think the diy glued on display looks better than a display nicely integrated into dashboard.
It’s probably so they can use the same unit in lots of cars and save money. It won’t be a choice of the designers
@@vytas5584 the same unit can be used if it's implemented into dashboard, so that's definitely not it.
i would love to see more of the 300 content also when its chopped
I enjoyed that!
How do you compare your ride experience with your Prado video?
Ronnie I googled the roof carrying capacity of the 300 and it said the roof is rated to carry 92kg on GX models and 90kg on the higher-spec variants.5 Oct 2021. If this is true capacity is less than half of the 200. What do you think?
Is it an epic interior? or just compared to the 200?
Enjoyed your review
Make sure you cover the ute performance after conversion, can't wait
these 300' s will flood the market, just like all the LC the preceding cruisers, chop it Luke . One of these chopped is my next Cruiser
Does it have adjustable suspension? And does it have off road drive modes? To me it looks quite low tech when compared to a discovery 5 but being out bush maybe that’s preferable
My lexus ux200 shares some of the features with this.
But 600 version from lexus would be the go if you want more tech
Yes, it has two turbos, but does not behave like a twin turbo. It more acts more like a biturbo. Which they're having surging issues with.
Would it do just as well in the sand in awd normal settings? Is locking the diff necessary?
Not in sand unless you get bogged although I do like using a rear locker when going down steep dunes. Lockers are more for other terrains where you start lifting wheels ect
Getting rid of the fold down rear tail gate was a huge mistake... replaced it with one that doesn't even work
If you had to pick between a 200 and 300 VX what would you go for Ronny?
I’m assuming when you said you were going 50-60 in low range, you’re talking kph? You mentioned imperial for the tires though, so want to make sure.
I like Toyota 4wds. I liked the 100 & 200 series. I haven’t driven the 300, but based purely on looks alone, I don’t like it that for $100k you get a black grille, black driving light surround & black bottom half on the mirrors. I know there’s no points for buying the first cab off the rank models because you’ll get crap black external plastic which will be improved upon in facelifts later on with chrome, but for $100k you’d expect the bells and whistles. I can’t stand the look of the rear end and the wheel arches. I bet there was divide over that in the boardroom in Japan. They appear to be very obvious flaws to me, but fingers crossed may be corrected in a facelift in nearly a decade’s time or something. It’s a car shape that’ll definitely look dated by the time manufacturing it runs its course in 12-15yrs. The engine appears good, but no V8 option for a $100-$150k 4wd that’s had them for so long now = fail (a bit of a fail in my opinion for this market). Right now I’m going to decide that I don’t like it and will see if the facelifts grow on me in a few years time. I definitely prefer the 200 series compared to the 300. The Landcruiser sales were so strong compared to the current Patrol & American Ute imports. I can see a swing in sales & more potential Landcruiser buyers than ever before steer towards the Dodge Ram, Chev Silverado & Ford F-150 (Raptor version incl).
If you don't live in Melbourne or Sydney I think the American pick-ups are a way better deal than this thing.
@@AP-ow5vu
I 100% agree
G’day I went 4 wheeling yesterday with a mate in his new 300 Sahara we drove some reasonably steep Highcountry Tks . The 300 handle them all without a problem but we did notice when ascending a steep low range Tk , when the vehicle was in manual mode it still changed up gears , which seems strange the stick was definitely knocked across into manual and showing what gear it was in on the dash , is this a feature of the 10 speed in the 300 , just doesn’t make sense and no we weren’t boring the piss into it , just climbing steadily.
Great review R. I was looking at a GXL but was very disappointed to find out there is no GPS in that spec! You need to go to VX for another $18k. All other GXL spec Toyota 4WD’s get GPS how can it not be on their hero model???
Surely Toyota will let you review the GR model???
Great review I’m buying a GR it’s on the way
You will love it mate gr got supension setting by changing your drive modes , we got vx version and so far it been a pleasure to drive it .
@@unna1996 Thank you great to hear this
That departure angle is a bit acute.
Look on the bright side. No car rear end is ever going to be as ugly as the Pajero Sport
I don't know about the rear. But did you see the front of the new Outlander? ...... And sadly it's not only Mitsubishi.
Its funny all reviews are all positive...biased and ripping out of Australians. Not at all value for money and clearly incapable offroad ( sand is not all offroad) when compared to 200 if you go deep onto mods prices compared. Didnt expect this from the great Ronny #withrespect
Dont get me wrong..its a good vehicle but not worth the price
Why is it incapable off road?
Surprise to see Roney haven't picked up about 18inch wheels as he picked up from Defender review
@Ronny Dahl Did the chop end up happening on this?
It sure did
You have to wonder why stretch a suv to a Ute? Especially these new expensive land cruisers it just costs mental money and is it really worth it?
I can understand an old rig that’s got a broken body and chopping it gives it a new life but I’m not sure about these others
It's a project build boet. Look at DMW
@@repentfromsinfollowjesus2953 yeah I get that, it just seems crazy to me spending thousands on a luxury suv then chopping half of it off spending many thousands in the process when you could just buy a Ute
If you think these are expensive you should see the price of Ferraris & Lamborghinis, it’s insane!
It's a race to see who can spend the most money to go camping 😂
It is crazy as you can buy a 2500 American ute for cheaper than the chopped lc300
bit extreme .. doesn't like the way the tailgate closes , so he chops it into a ute ... lol
Just to correct you Ronny the 200 series did have radar cruise control it was just in the 2018+ series of the 200.