Instead of turning off traction control you can just select MTS - turn the mode selector SAND, traction control will be turned off automatically. It’s faster. Even better, throttle response is also adjusted. DRIVE mode is more appropriate on pavement. When off road use MTS. And you don’t need additional OBD Screen, you can configure the dash (12 inch one) to show details such as transmission/oil temp, battery voltage etc. 3 presets can be stored, I have one for daily driving (adaptive cruise, fuel mileage), one with off engine parameters (temps, voltage), and one for navigation (compass rose).
Well, the only thing that is abysmal about the car is the acceleration from 0-100 that was 11 seconds. I hope that was the lowest basic trim or something and there will be a quicker one because this car seems amazing otherwise. And yes , acceleration matters in ANY car.
@@dr.killjoy5001 Not many people will be be buying the Prado expecting sports car like acceleration. The GX550 will do 0-100 in 6,8 seconds if you want better accelerating 250-series.
the best no non-sensical car review channel on the "tube of the internet" period. I love how this guy isnt mocking around with the new cars to not scratch them and gets right to the real stuff.. Some of these tests i would be terrified to do in a beater 4x4 car this guy just drives them off the showroom right into the rocks,sands and challenging 4x4 tracks.
Great video Ronny, thanks for sharing your experiences with this vehicle. Really love the information you’re providing that you’d otherwise wouldn’t know from a brochure or from the average sales person, like how many gears you have in low range.
Be interested to know what you prefer in standard form between this and the grenadier, then after the inevitable upgrades the difference between the 2.
I was smiling at 1:40 when you referenced the FJ 😄, ... and at 14:50 pushing /holding the buttons ... well yes, that is one really good thing in my manual FJ, when I am switching the tough transfer case stick into low range, I get the fancy stability control tid-bits switched off immediately, there is no waiting for 4-5 seconds, and no buttons to push / hold (although the buttons are there in the FJ, but no need to fiddle with them when you are in the situation of low range driving ).
Drove in the Sahara with the J12 Prado through the dunes. Low pressure and 2wd was enough for 90% of the tour 🤷♂️ for the hardcore stuff of course the 4L was useful 👌 no thread on the tires tho 😂
Seeing you let Chris drive your Prado could never be me with my friends, they all have lifted Jeeps and I drive a Defender, I'd be damned if they ran and left me with their Jeep to go home with 😅, let's just say the ride comfort was secondary during their upgrades
Would be cool if you did a comparison on the sand between your new 76 vs Prado 250 - old tech vs new tech. It would interesting to see the difference is engine performance across the 2 platforms. Love ya work Ronnie
Yep the getabout training boys at the 4WD show were saying the same thing at their recovery workshop. 4H is recommended for sand as it allows the car to “float” with low enough PSI and the high gears cause minimal surface disruption since they have less torque.
When I did the Coorong to murray mouth (100km each way with a lot of soft sand) I found it was lacking power in the soft stuff in 4H going 50km/h and above and starting to bog down so changed back to 4L and just took my time sitting below 40km/h. No prizes for getting there quicker. Ive found 4L gives you the torque to get through softer patches much better than 4H . . .
@@4x4Overlanding247exactly. Very soft sand requires 4L. Using 4H in these conditions is what kills gearboxes due to heat. Some of the above comments show most don’t have enough experience in soft sand.
AWD usually has anywhere from up to 20f/80r to 50/50 for power distribution, where as locking the center differential actually lets either differential recieve 100% of the power, or 100/0 to 0/100. 4wd does the same thing, since the front and rear outputs are the same gear ratio and only have shafts. This does mean that if you turn with either 4wd or awd with the center diff locked the front and rear differentials bind because they need to spin at different speeds but they can't. It's like turning with locked front/rear differentials but less, you still get some wheel hop.
@@-aid4084 With a centre differential locked (or any differential) you are forcing axles or drive shafts to rotate at the same speed so yeah wheels will slip and scrub hence with Any locked differential you shouldn’t drive on high traction surfaces.
Well i saw 3 at the local dealership and one down town this morning and as far as looks go i am not very impressed. Looks too much like a box on wheels.
@@tallboy49 well the previous one (150) looked like a bulky, weird blobfish imo. I much appreciate the boxy design, reminds me of the Nissan Pathfinder, in a good way.
The most fun I ever had in an offroad vehicle was in an old ln105 live axle hilux. Low on power, but tons of flex, live axle... and it was beaten up to buggery. Just drive the thing hard and at anything and have fun. If it got banged up, full of mud etc who cares, very liberating.
I am not a Toyota fan boy but I like these 250's. Very nice looking vehicle. Carexpert channel was saying they are sluggish. Doesn't look sluggish to me. Are you going to do a towing segment Ronny? Be interested in seeing if it tows as well as the 76.
Here in Western Australia has been overcast, scattered showers and temps in the low to mid 20's C/70-77F the last couple of weeks, which I'm sure that outside temperature is displayed on his dashboard during this test. You can see his altitude above sea level in the video and humidity has been relatively low.
For those of you, like me, still rocking the maxtrax mk2's, if you have wheel spin and burn a few nubs off you can get aluminimun replacements online. Super simple and cheap, cut off the remaining nub, drill a hole and bolt them on. Came with locking washers too, haven't had one come loose yet.
Hi Ronny, your reviews are great - interesting and very informative. I love watching your videos. I was wondering the snorkel that is on your Prado, is it just a raised air intake or a real snorkel. I bought an altitude 2 weeks ago and am thinking of getting it. I'll appreciate if you can let me know. Thanks
I think most top gear/s are obviously overdrive, and I don't think they're designed to handle the the amplified torque of low range, so they lock it out.
@ MTS does more than just traction control. It modulates throttle and transmission performance as well, and adjusts how traction control works. It could be more useful in certain situations than completely disabling traction control.
Does the hugh specs prados have the adaptive headlights like the high specs 300s? I swear not alot of 300 owners know. It will spread the beam wide when slow, and ever turn the beam which way you turn the wheel, and when you speed up the beam will narrow, also it will pick up car and turn off a section whennthe oncoming car is or car infront but still be in highbeaam. Hard to explain but trippy to watch
Just look up on RUclips toyota adaptive headlights . It's not that auto high beam low beam most base model Toyota's have that doesn't really work well.
it’s easier now with MTS, select whatever terrain you’re facing (AUTO, SAND, MUD, DIRT, ROCK) traction control will be on or off appropriately even when in 4H depending on the mode selected. And not only TC, throttle response is also mapped differently for each mode.
Apologies Ronnie for being picky but . . . a locked centre differential only splits power and torque 50/50 between front/rear axles in the special case of front and rear road traction (impedance) being identical. That special case is rare on a 4WD track - it is the uneven front/rear traction which causes us to want to lock the centre diff in the first place. An open centre differential always splits torque 50/50 between front and rear, but only splits power for the same special case. All confusing physics. But the easy bit is that the ONLY parameter which is always and genuinely split” (n the sense of being identical for each of the front and rear axle) - when a centre differential is locked - is the rpm.
If you lift an open diff front wheel with the centre differential open, you can find yourself with 0% power or torque going to the rear axle. This goes against what you’re saying.
You may find yourself with 0% power I agree but not 0% torque. If the centre differential is open and the front wheels are off the ground whilst the rear wheels are on the ground, the situation will be as follows: front power high and rear power low, front rpm high and rear rpm low, front and rear torque the same as each other. A differential is a torque splitter regardless of the traction (impedance) at each end of the split. Even for the extreme case of the front wheels spinning at huge rpm and the rear wheels not moving at all - the torque at front and rear will be identical. Torque is a rotational force. Just like linear force - it can be dynamic or static. The front torque will be dynamic and the rear torque will be static. Power is the product (integral) of torque and rpm (radians per second). For the rear wheels the static torque is positive, is static, and is the same Nm (Newton metres) as the dynamic torque at the front. For that extreme case, the physics is such that when you multiply the positive rear torque by zero rpm, the rear power indeed becomes zero.
Everyone who noticed ENGINE CHECK LIGHT @ 5:03 , ENGINE was not running as there was also the STEERING CAUTION and PRAKING BRAKE light on at right down corner of screen , hence only key was on ON 👍
No decent 4WD needs a Tune or Throttle Controller. So this is good to see. Not sure why you say a Permanent 4WD will get you stuck if one wheel loses traction - it’s called traction control (some vehicles have torque vectoring also) where a wheel can be braked. I have a permanent 4WD and can drive with a front and rear wheel slipping. Wasn’t the MTS Sand Mode used on the 250? Also why didn’t we see you stuck on the beach and using Crawl Control to get out? Range Rover can self extract on the beach with Low Traction Launch.
Pet hate @ 12:30 - A diff lock, be that center or axle lock, does not split torque 50/50. It just locks the rotational speed to be equal, and the torque split is determined by the available grip on each side of the locker. An open diff on the other hand splits torque 50/50. Think of it like this - if you have a locked axle, on wheel in the air, and one on the ground, you get 100% of the torque to the wheel on the ground. If you have an open diff with one wheel in the air and one on the ground you get a 50/50 torque split, but the wheel in the air has no resistance so it can't receive any torque and just spins up. The wheel on the ground gets that same tiny amount of torque delivered to it, and you are stuck. What confuses most people is that torque is not something that is "sent", it is "used". Another way to look at it is that torque will always follow the path of least resistance. A wheel in the air will always receive the most torque possible unless you limit its rotational speed by a diff-lock or ESP intervention on the brakes.
Ronny, good to meet you at the Perth show with the tyre game. I was hoping you could tell me the thoughts between the LC250 altitude vs the LC300 gx. They cost the same, it will be my daily but needs to be 4x4 capable and tow. Which once would you pick? Altitude has the sunroof, locker, luxury OR the 6 cylinder. Thank you.
@ no difference fuel wise towing my van compared to my old 200! Yea round town is about 4-5 litres per 100 more but it’s nice having 400hp under the right foot😁
Are you sure you’re using the right terminology? Traction control is awesome for high range and lo range 4wding. It’s stability control that you don’t want on (should turn off in lo automatically). That’s how it is on the 150. Maybe the 250 is different and uses different terms for these things. Agreed though that turning TC off for sand driving is good.
Let's see how many people will give there professional opinions that have never driven or owned one 😂....I can already tell this vehicle will have its lovers and haters. Personally for me being a person that doesn't want that feeling nagging about hurting a brand new vehicle it's not for me I want to use a 4x4 to its full potential so it's second hand for me that way it doesn't crush the soul if and when you get some damage.
Normally the traction control should turn off as soon as one of the lockers is engaged And don't shit on traction control in general, there are situations (yes they are very rare, I admit it) where a good traction control can get you further than a vehicle with rear and center locker
TC stays on with centre diff locked in Toyota's, it works really well. He's only talking about sand and TC does not work on sand, as you said though it's very good in other situations
@@Harry_Gersack yep and in some you can get it to stay on with rear locker also. Generally TC works as well as a locker anyway so the lockers don't get turned on
Yeah good question . . . . it really is just a luxury version of the 76. Would be interesting to do a full spec comparison between the 250 / 300 / 76. Which one would withstand harsh conditions better? No doubt a 76 Personally I'd prefer less whizz bang gadgets than more coming from a 25 yr old 90 series Prado . . . . But could I go back if I tried something as luxxy as a 250 . . . . ?? It would likely be very difficult . . . .
If you want to do an occasional beach run and mainly the mall choose this Prado whereas if you want to do genuine tough stuff where damage may occur the 76 strikes me as the far better choice.
that's in majority of cases, particularly Toyotas. It's better alternative than losing even further departure angle, this way it tucks away behind axle for some defense. Of course, not ideal for big off-roading, but those people just relocate to rear bar.
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Did pretty well for a stock vehicle... love that you gave it a hard time! Kinda makes me feel better placing a deposit on one.
@MichaelHopewell-d8v don't worry mate,that deposit will probably wash off
Instead of turning off traction control you can just select MTS - turn the mode selector SAND, traction control will be turned off automatically. It’s faster. Even better, throttle response is also adjusted. DRIVE mode is more appropriate on pavement. When off road use MTS.
And you don’t need additional OBD Screen, you can configure the dash (12 inch one) to show details such as transmission/oil temp, battery voltage etc. 3 presets can be stored, I have one for daily driving (adaptive cruise, fuel mileage), one with off engine parameters (temps, voltage), and one for navigation (compass rose).
Thanks Jeremy clarkson
You'll have to excuse Ronnie, he's not used to having high tech things like Mode Selection.
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Than you, very helpful advise!!
Do the modes work in high range? I have a 22 Kakadu and the sand/mud drive selector only works in low range.
I really like that raised intake, super clean looking
I agree,
The haters can hate all they want but Toyota knocked it out of the park with the 250-series and it will sell like hot cakes!
Well, the only thing that is abysmal about the car is the acceleration from 0-100 that was 11 seconds. I hope that was the lowest basic trim or something and there will be a quicker one because this car seems amazing otherwise. And yes , acceleration matters in ANY car.
@@dr.killjoy5001Go test drive one and find out if you’re that pressed about it….
Those are not just haters but ignorant people.
@@dr.killjoy5001 no one really always use 0-60 measure in daily driving. Trust me, no one buy this thinking of racing with a Subaru WRX.
@@dr.killjoy5001 Not many people will be be buying the Prado expecting sports car like acceleration. The GX550 will do 0-100 in 6,8 seconds if you want better accelerating 250-series.
Looking forward for Ronny's Adventure with his Prado.
Patiently waiting for towing...
the best no non-sensical car review channel on the "tube of the internet" period. I love how this guy isnt mocking around with the new cars to not scratch them and gets right to the real stuff.. Some of these tests i would be terrified to do in a beater 4x4 car this guy just drives them off the showroom right into the rocks,sands and challenging 4x4 tracks.
pretty good video Ronny, It is interesting that when it is off-road it does seem to feel more agile and secure then the 150 did
Fantastic honest, real world assessment, well done
50% honest, it's a toyota channel
@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing except when he has an ineos
Ronnie can you do a tow test comparing this and your 4 cyl 76, like the one you did with your 76 and 79 series please
Looking forward to this. 76 is a well built proven platform
@@RoamingRooma 76 is Rubbish. Ask almost anyone but a fanboy.
Objective reviewers also call it for the crap it is.
Great video Ronny, thanks for sharing your experiences with this vehicle. Really love the information you’re providing that you’d otherwise wouldn’t know from a brochure or from the average sales person, like how many gears you have in low range.
Good to see a brand new 4x4 going offorad when most will just haunt the highways and city streets (and soccer fields)
city off-roader 😂
I have bought 2 x Altitudes, I have no plans to take it off-road 👊
Football fields***
@paritdoshi9836 soccer here in Australia.. where this video is made..
Love your honesty. Your my favourite 4wd motor journalist
@@entropyachieved750 *you’re
Be interested to know what you prefer in standard form between this and the grenadier, then after the inevitable upgrades the difference between the 2.
I was smiling at 1:40 when you referenced the FJ 😄, ... and at 14:50 pushing /holding the buttons ... well yes, that is one really good thing in my manual FJ, when I am switching the tough transfer case stick into low range, I get the fancy stability control tid-bits switched off immediately, there is no waiting for 4-5 seconds, and no buttons to push / hold (although the buttons are there in the FJ, but no need to fiddle with them when you are in the situation of low range driving ).
Youve gone to another level Ronny, well done, a young star on the way up
Drove in the Sahara with the J12 Prado through the dunes. Low pressure and 2wd was enough for 90% of the tour 🤷♂️ for the hardcore stuff of course the 4L was useful 👌 no thread on the tires tho 😂
I’m just happy Chris stuck with his stock steelies and running the toyo AT3’s on his troopie in a 225 wide. Let us know how that’s going!
Seeing you let Chris drive your Prado could never be me with my friends, they all have lifted Jeeps and I drive a Defender, I'd be damned if they ran and left me with their Jeep to go home with 😅, let's just say the ride comfort was secondary during their upgrades
Would be cool if you did a comparison on the sand between your new 76 vs Prado 250 - old tech vs new tech. It would interesting to see the difference is engine performance across the 2 platforms.
Love ya work Ronnie
I usually use 4H for sand and beach work. 15psi in the tyres, TC off, rarely get bogged ever. Friends using 4L always getting bogged
The same shit. Prado 120, 3doors, 4l.
Yep the getabout training boys at the 4WD show were saying the same thing at their recovery workshop. 4H is recommended for sand as it allows the car to “float” with low enough PSI and the high gears cause minimal surface disruption since they have less torque.
4low doesn't make sense on sand unless you're severely underpowered
When I did the Coorong to murray mouth (100km each way with a lot of soft sand) I found it was lacking power in the soft stuff in 4H going 50km/h and above and starting to bog down so changed back to 4L and just took my time sitting below 40km/h. No prizes for getting there quicker. Ive found 4L gives you the torque to get through softer patches much better than 4H . . .
@@4x4Overlanding247exactly. Very soft sand requires 4L. Using 4H in these conditions is what kills gearboxes due to heat. Some of the above comments show most don’t have enough experience in soft sand.
Hi Ronny thanks for some cool and honest reviews and testing this car
AWD usually has anywhere from up to 20f/80r to 50/50 for power distribution, where as locking the center differential actually lets either differential recieve 100% of the power, or 100/0 to 0/100.
4wd does the same thing, since the front and rear outputs are the same gear ratio and only have shafts. This does mean that if you turn with either 4wd or awd with the center diff locked the front and rear differentials bind because they need to spin at different speeds but they can't. It's like turning with locked front/rear differentials but less, you still get some wheel hop.
@@-aid4084 With a centre differential locked (or any differential) you are forcing axles or drive shafts to rotate at the same speed so yeah wheels will slip and scrub hence with Any locked differential you shouldn’t drive on high traction surfaces.
@jerrymyahzcat ye
Thanks Ronny great review
Loving the honest review and feedback, let's all be real. The 250 Prado is a thing of beauty.
Warranty and all.😊😊
Well i saw 3 at the local dealership and one down town this morning and as far as looks go i am not very impressed. Looks too much like a box on wheels.
@@tallboy49 well the previous one (150) looked like a bulky, weird blobfish imo.
I much appreciate the boxy design, reminds me of the Nissan Pathfinder, in a good way.
@@tallboy49Plot twist, you don’t have to buy one ya sook.
Think i might buy one just so i can show everyone just how terrible it looks.
@ Very productive use of your time.
Thanks for sharing and taking us along.Awesome and outstanding content as always.
Hey Ronny, how much AdBlue did it chew through whilst dune driving?
Now the big question, Ineos or Prado 250?
Love it! Very 80 Series from the back.
The most fun I ever had in an offroad vehicle was in an old ln105 live axle hilux. Low on power, but tons of flex, live axle... and it was beaten up to buggery. Just drive the thing hard and at anything and have fun. If it got banged up, full of mud etc who cares, very liberating.
I am not a Toyota fan boy but I like these 250's. Very nice looking vehicle. Carexpert channel was saying they are sluggish. Doesn't look sluggish to me. Are you going to do a towing segment Ronny? Be interested in seeing if it tows as well as the 76.
100 percent mate 😉
Please do every test that you did with your 70 series landcruiser for the PRADO
I see Ronny's got the DJI mics going.. nice
What did he have before?
hi. what us the atmosphere temperature when you tested the car?
Here in Western Australia has been overcast, scattered showers and temps in the low to mid 20's C/70-77F the last couple of weeks, which I'm sure that outside temperature is displayed on his dashboard during this test.
You can see his altitude above sea level in the video and humidity has been relatively low.
Hmm tempted to buy this. Petrol or diesel though?
Does this Prado have the Torson centre from the earlier model?
Yes. A Torsen diff is standard on the new 250.
Its thr first good looking prado
Did you not find 1st gear low too slow down the dunes? I have that issue in a 10 speed auto
Great sand test. Awaiting the rock test. Watching from Newfoundland and Labrador,Canada.
For those of you, like me, still rocking the maxtrax mk2's, if you have wheel spin and burn a few nubs off you can get aluminimun replacements online. Super simple and cheap, cut off the remaining nub, drill a hole and bolt them on. Came with locking washers too, haven't had one come loose yet.
@@markrigney4372 He’s using MaxTrax Xtreme anyway with the metal replaceable lugs.
@@jerrymyahzcat watch again mate, he uses mkII'S as well. Besides, doesn't delegitimise my comment either way.
Hi Ronny, your reviews are great - interesting and very informative. I love watching your videos. I was wondering the snorkel that is on your Prado, is it just a raised air intake or a real snorkel. I bought an altitude 2 weeks ago and am thinking of getting it. I'll appreciate if you can let me know. Thanks
I think most top gear/s are obviously overdrive, and I don't think they're designed to handle the the amplified torque of low range, so they lock it out.
Ronny
Thoughts about Prado vs Grenadier?
that set you guys mad looks epic!
Looked so fun on the dunes. Can't wait to get ours
@@auspokemon7350 Looked like zero fun on the dunes. And so much sand blowing into the cabin. I stay off sand where possible.
@ronny so what you reckon would be the next best alternative to this 250
Prado ?
They really nailed the look of this thing, it looks fricken great. Def one of the best looking modern 4x4's imo
Outstanding!
If only the had rear cargo space with the 7 seater. It was a deal breaker for me. We fill our current 150 with stuff when we go camping.
Seems like with the sport mode it unlocks more power than the 150.
its the same power but the extra gears make it go faster
What’s the differences between this engine and the 2.8 in the 70-series?
How would the plastic panel trims affect flare fitment?
Curious if you used MTS (multi-terrain select)?
Looks like he did not (traction control off)… 😅
@ MTS does more than just traction control. It modulates throttle and transmission performance as well, and adjusts how traction control works. It could be more useful in certain situations than completely disabling traction control.
@@jeeproverbydesignspot on. I would have selected MTS SAND instead.
Does the hugh specs prados have the adaptive headlights like the high specs 300s? I swear not alot of 300 owners know. It will spread the beam wide when slow, and ever turn the beam which way you turn the wheel, and when you speed up the beam will narrow, also it will pick up car and turn off a section whennthe oncoming car is or car infront but still be in highbeaam. Hard to explain but trippy to watch
Just look up on RUclips toyota adaptive headlights . It's not that auto high beam low beam most base model Toyota's have that doesn't really work well.
Does this Crawl Control get you out from being stuck in sand?
Thank for a good review.
I’m waiting for your caravan review, will it be better here your “79”, a 300 or can you get an Everest?
In the 150 using 4L turns the VSC off, you still need to manually turn the TC off. I suspect the 250 is the same ?
it’s easier now with MTS, select whatever terrain you’re facing (AUTO, SAND, MUD, DIRT, ROCK) traction control will be on or off appropriately even when in 4H depending on the mode selected. And not only TC, throttle response is also mapped differently for each mode.
The prado 150 4.0 will go into 5th in low range. You need to bounce off the rev limiter and then manually select 5th and she goes in.
Great Video! 😊
You bump the spare on anything? Looks low down there.
Toyota needs to make a mini version of this
Back again! Great work.
Curious if you used the sand driving mode?
Would be interesting to see hoe it compares vs the 300, 70 series (v8 or 4cyl), and Fortuner
Is it the same Aisin gearbox as the Pajero Sport?
*I'll see your Prado, Raise you with my Bronco Raptor and I call!*
If I where on that beach with all gear you have there ... I would worry more about the sand in my camera gear than the sand on the seat :)
is the snorkel stock or after market? thanks
Apologies Ronnie for being picky but . . . a locked centre differential only splits power and torque 50/50 between front/rear axles in the special case of front and rear road traction (impedance) being identical. That special case is rare on a 4WD track - it is the uneven front/rear traction which causes us to want to lock the centre diff in the first place. An open centre differential always splits torque 50/50 between front and rear, but only splits power for the same special case. All confusing physics. But the easy bit is that the ONLY parameter which is always and genuinely split” (n the sense of being identical for each of the front and rear axle) - when a centre differential is locked - is the rpm.
If you lift an open diff front wheel with the centre differential open, you can find yourself with 0% power or torque going to the rear axle. This goes against what you’re saying.
You may find yourself with 0% power I agree but not 0% torque. If the centre differential is open and the front wheels are off the ground whilst the rear wheels are on the ground, the situation will be as follows: front power high and rear power low, front rpm high and rear rpm low, front and rear torque the same as each other. A differential is a torque splitter regardless of the traction (impedance) at each end of the split. Even for the extreme case of the front wheels spinning at huge rpm and the rear wheels not moving at all - the torque at front and rear will be identical. Torque is a rotational force. Just like linear force - it can be dynamic or static. The front torque will be dynamic and the rear torque will be static. Power is the product (integral) of torque and rpm (radians per second). For the rear wheels the static torque is positive, is static, and is the same Nm (Newton metres) as the dynamic torque at the front. For that extreme case, the physics is such that when you multiply the positive rear torque by zero rpm, the rear power indeed becomes zero.
@@ozasokozasok3264 crickey, that's a very complicated way of saying you're bogged. hahaha. I follow your logic and it makes sense, thanks.
Everyone who noticed ENGINE CHECK LIGHT @ 5:03 , ENGINE was not running as there was also the STEERING CAUTION and PRAKING BRAKE light on at right down corner of screen , hence only key was on ON 👍
Yes, obviously that clip of the dashboard was added later on to visualize what he is saying, nothing wrong with that.
No decent 4WD needs a Tune or Throttle Controller. So this is good to see.
Not sure why you say a Permanent 4WD will get you stuck if one wheel loses traction - it’s called traction control (some vehicles have torque vectoring also) where a wheel can be braked.
I have a permanent 4WD and can drive with a front and rear wheel slipping.
Wasn’t the MTS Sand Mode used on the 250?
Also why didn’t we see you stuck on the beach and using Crawl Control to get out? Range Rover can self extract on the beach with Low Traction Launch.
Pet hate @ 12:30 - A diff lock, be that center or axle lock, does not split torque 50/50. It just locks the rotational speed to be equal, and the torque split is determined by the available grip on each side of the locker. An open diff on the other hand splits torque 50/50. Think of it like this - if you have a locked axle, on wheel in the air, and one on the ground, you get 100% of the torque to the wheel on the ground. If you have an open diff with one wheel in the air and one on the ground you get a 50/50 torque split, but the wheel in the air has no resistance so it can't receive any torque and just spins up. The wheel on the ground gets that same tiny amount of torque delivered to it, and you are stuck.
What confuses most people is that torque is not something that is "sent", it is "used". Another way to look at it is that torque will always follow the path of least resistance. A wheel in the air will always receive the most torque possible unless you limit its rotational speed by a diff-lock or ESP intervention on the brakes.
What do you think worth buying ?, l took one for test drive was nice to drive
too early for that call, I've been focused on off-roading
@ cool loving your videos on RUclips
I got one on order
What engine do you get in Australia?
Ronny why didn’t you test MTS sand mode?
I had a look at it but need to play with it more, it seems to me like a setting for beginners that might not understand the traction control ect
It looks awesome.
Very cool. I was gonna get one but 60kg load limit in the back killed that idea. Got a 79 instead
Ronny, good to meet you at the Perth show with the tyre game. I was hoping you could tell me the thoughts between the LC250 altitude vs the LC300 gx. They cost the same, it will be my daily but needs to be 4x4 capable and tow. Which once would you pick? Altitude has the sunroof, locker, luxury OR the 6 cylinder. Thank you.
Buy a new patrol much better more powerful and stronger platform than the 250+300
@@rob7385 Its too thirsty
@ no difference fuel wise towing my van compared to my old 200! Yea round town is about 4-5 litres per 100 more but it’s nice having 400hp under the right foot😁
@@rob7385 Yeah but waking up in the morning and realizing you're a Patrol owner is a level of embarrassment not everyone can handle.
@@Albatrossamongus stay positive albatross! Hahaha 😂
Are you sure you’re using the right terminology? Traction control is awesome for high range and lo range 4wding. It’s stability control that you don’t want on (should turn off in lo automatically). That’s how it is on the 150. Maybe the 250 is different and uses different terms for these things.
Agreed though that turning TC off for sand driving is good.
Keep the windows up …
sub'ed for LC250 reasons
See them on the street in both Perth and Albany already.
A bit surprised at the speed it has been compared to the 150 on the car expert drag race and it is slower than the 150
Tank 300 💀❤️🔥
When Harry and you taking a trip together Ronny
We need video on Lexus Gx 550 overtrail
Underpowered!!!!
Let's see how many people will give there professional opinions that have never driven or owned one 😂....I can already tell this vehicle will have its lovers and haters. Personally for me being a person that doesn't want that feeling nagging about hurting a brand new vehicle it's not for me I want to use a 4x4 to its full potential so it's second hand for me that way it doesn't crush the soul if and when you get some damage.
will see how it does the same type of driving when loaded up
well we know it's not a jet. it's actually heavier and slower than the previous generation!
looks like it can handle itself, i just wonder how well it'll handle heat during the summer
@@Alcor151 Isn't it summer now in AU/NZ since they're in southern hemisphere.
@@khonjel_singh not at the time of the filming.
@@khonjel_singh only just coming into summer.... we have some 30 degree days starting but there are 40+ on their way normally more jan/Feb
Has already been well into the mid 30s in Perth
If you have access to 40 million max trax you have access to a 2 min snatch.
Pretty silly supposition, that’s what I am still wondering 😂
Hey, what digital temp gauge was that? Cheers
It's scangauge 3
You don’t need additional screen on the 250, just dive deeper on the 12 inch dash menu, they can actually be displayed
Normally the traction control should turn off as soon as one of the lockers is engaged
And don't shit on traction control in general, there are situations (yes they are very rare, I admit it) where a good traction control can get you further than a vehicle with rear and center locker
TC stays on with centre diff locked in Toyota's, it works really well.
He's only talking about sand and TC does not work on sand, as you said though it's very good in other situations
@eamon1648 oh so it only turns off with the rear locker, interesting 🤔
@@Harry_Gersack yep and in some you can get it to stay on with rear locker also.
Generally TC works as well as a locker anyway so the lockers don't get turned on
Slay queen
Here is a question:
What is the advantage over 2.8L LC76? Which is 15k cheaper.
Too many electrons can go wrong?
Yeah good question . . . . it really is just a luxury version of the 76. Would be interesting to do a full spec comparison between the 250 / 300 / 76.
Which one would withstand harsh conditions better? No doubt a 76
Personally I'd prefer less whizz bang gadgets than more coming from a 25 yr old 90 series Prado . . . . But could I go back if I tried something as luxxy as a 250 . . . . ??
It would likely be very difficult . . . .
If you want to do an occasional beach run and mainly the mall choose this Prado whereas if you want to do genuine tough stuff where damage may occur the 76 strikes me as the far better choice.
@ spot on.
I wonder in whose hands these cars end up through dealerships after you’ve done with it 😂. Like when you sell them 😅
Ronnie what temp gauge your useing please
scangauge 3
Ok you got that out your system, back to reality now maybe
Great car but why was the engine check light on? Or wasn‘t the car running?
14:55 where? Or is there a separate light elsewhere?
That spare tyre looks incredibly low and angled down at the front. Angled downwards in direction of vehicle travel may be an issue in the rocks.
that's in majority of cases, particularly Toyotas. It's better alternative than losing even further departure angle, this way it tucks away behind axle for some defense.
Of course, not ideal for big off-roading, but those people just relocate to rear bar.