did you not go thru physical therapy? I have a plate and more than 3 screws in my left ankle, in addition to the 8 lb nail within my left tibia (also secured with screws), and I run, jump, ride my bicycle.....
@icandsc No, I had no resources to be able to do physical therapy back then. They pulled the cartilage out since it was "smashed beyond use," so I've been bone on bone for 30 years.
As of 2024 I'm a new rider that thought he could never be a rider due to minor disabilities. But the Rebel 1100 DCT has opened up my world and I'm so much happier
@leojohnwayne1422 if you've never ridden at all, you may want to start off with a scooter to get the feel of riding before taking on a motorcycle. I spent my young life on dirt bikes, so I had that experience to draw on
I absolutely love my '17 Africa Twin DCT. It gets ridden like a dirt bike frequently and is a game changer off road. In heavy stop and go traffic, the best bike available. Bought mine on a whim thinking that I wouldn't loose money if I hated the DCT. That was 37,000mmiles ago. I wouldn't trade it for anything.
I love my AT/dct too, it gets no respect at the adventure bike rally I attend in the summer, people won’t even talk to you as soon as you tell them you ride a dct.
@@bigwu100no , it is manageable at 5’10. Go a the dealer and try it on . 32.9 in (835 mm) in the standard position and 33.7 in (855 mm) in the low position. You can also buy an accessory low seat that lowers the seat height to 31.3 in (32.1 mm) or 31.3 in
As neuropathy makes my feet feel like pain filled stumps, an automatic bike is becoming something I am going to have to consider soon. Thanks for this.
Just a heads-up that you might appreciate: There is an aussie here on RUclips that has moved his rear brake to the left lever on his Africa Twin DCT. It's a mod I'm thinking of doing to my Rebel 1100. It's possible.
I have relatively recently developed a disability, soft tissue, muscle, joints, the less strain on my legs the better. That includes shifting (and walking, bikes are great to get closer to your destination than any car could ever get parking-wise in the UK). I use a small nimble electric bike for commute, it's great. I'd love to get Rebel but $$
I own 2020 Goldwing DCT TOUR. I never had a DCT in 35 years on 2 wheels. I will never shift again. Simply remarkable. You need to adopt to it and it takes around 2 weeks of riding to learn to bond with it. The Goldwing's DCT computer learns your riding habits and adjust to shifting to your style. My riding experience for 4 years now, is so relaxing, allowing me to really enjoy the ride and the bike. Strongly recommend to try.
I have a 2016 NC700 DCT. Absolutely love it. 73 mpg / 68 with passenger. Prefect commuter bike. Have the hard top and saddle cases. With the “frunk” and the hard cases I go grocery shopping with it haha. I can ride manual but I don’t think I will go back. DCT/auto all the way. Friends who ride gave me so much sh** when I got the bike because of it being automatic but when I let them ride it they loved it. 90% of my ride is travel to work and in the city. Stop and go traffic has nothing on this bike. Plus like you said Yammie the whole point is the get more people riding. We are all family. All the people who say automatic bikes are not motorcycles and are a-holes are the same people who give us riders a bad name. If anything enjoy the bike you have and don’t worry about what others think. Ride safe everyone.
@ I would say yes to any year for this bike. Not having to worry, especially in traffic/stop and go lights every block, is amazing. Then get it on the open road and just focus on the ride is also a no brainer. With all the bike manufactures having more and more automatic versions of their bikes I really think that is the future and will get more riders out. Which to me the more the better. We are all family. F all the people who talk shit about an automatic bike when most of them probably have a quick shifter. Ride safe!!!
As someone who has a partially disabled left leg and sever foot drop I started on the Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sport DCT. It was a really amazing bike to learn on. It has several automatic drive modes and MANUAL. After the 1st week of riding I have exclusively used the manual mode, you can even get it with a foot shifting lever so you don't have to use the +/- buttons on the left hand cluster. I have since picked up a 2023 Ducati Streetfighter V4 SP2 and a 2023 Honda CBR1000RR-R Fireblade SP and outfitted both with Kliktronic adaptive shifters. I did have to make custom brackets but now that I know I can not only ride but absolutely love life on two wheels, I can ride anything I can get an adaptive shifter mounted too!!
@@CawKee I prefer the manually transmissions in my other two bikes over the DCT but it has it's place. I wouldn't want an external adaptive shifter on my Africa Twin because I have laid it down in the wood several times and that would likely jack one of these up.
@saadalani3991 IMO, the DCT is easier since it's a lot less to worry about and allows u to focus on everything else. But unfortunately, it only comes on larger bikes. Also, unless you're only ever going to ride a DCT, I'd suggest a small manual bike to learn how to shift well first. The Rebel 1100 also sits really low too, which is a huge plus. But it's still a big, more powerful bike. I started on a Rebel 300. If I were looking now, I would be looking hard at the new e-clutch bikes from Honda. They're 650cc tho
I’m 31 with no major health issues and still got a dct. Last week I got my first big bike, a honda NT1100 (which you don’t get in america) I originally wanted manual but the dealer convinced me for auto and I couldn’t be happier. In 90% of cases it just makes more sense. Won’t get tires commuting and less to worry about when touring so I can actually enjoy the ride. The dct also meant that I jumped a couple of steps in difficulty. Coupled with the low down weight of the bike, I can already handle it like a pro. For the off chance I want to shift my own gears, I can still stick it in manual mode and shift my own gears. You can buy a foot shifter too which pretty much makes it identical to a bike with a quickshifter. I wish there were more auto bikes to be honest. In my market, the only options are the nc750, africa twin/nt1100 or the goldwing. Nothing else in between.
One reason people resist change is because they focus on what they have to give up, instead of what they have to gain. I hadn’t considered a DCT bike until recently, I was shopping for a new bike and was intrigued with Honda’s DCT technology and how much it has been refined over the last decade, I purchased recently a 24 NC750x and it has been an adjustment riding with no clutch and manual foot shifter although I’m really enjoying the ride and not having to think about what gear I need to select, unless I want too then I simply select the manual mode overall though I prefer to allow the automatic DCT choose the gears and I can focus on everything else on the road!
I'm probably your dad's age, but I started and still have a BV 400 scooter that's amazing, now moving to a Triumph Speed 400. Your dad is suggesting a very good way to go about it. 🤙
Love this use case. Get comfortable with lean, maximum braking, and other fundamental motorcycle techniques, and graduate to a manual if you decide you want the additional engagement with the bike. Good luck on your riding journey.
@@NicholasNormileYou make a fair point insofar that the clutch makes a nice panic button, but even a clutch is no substitute for skilled rider inputs. If you can’t manage difficult and/or emergency situations by rolling off the throttle and applying maximum braking (if necessary), then your first priority as a rider should be learning to use your controls more efficiently. In that use case I see it as no more than a convenient shortcut, in the same way that a DCT is for shifting. Slow speed maneuvers, on the other hand, are a different story. Despite what Yammie said, I do lament the lack of a friction zone for slow speed maneuvers when riding a DCT bike, and find it more of a nuisance than anything. For that reason, I have considered trading my DCT bike for something with bidirectional quick-shifting, but cannot bring myself to give up the comfort of a DCT for riding in traffic.
@@knighthrehor2000 personally, I think that in many cases, people who find themselves using the clutch constantly in traffic are unnecessarily making it much more difficult than it has any reason to be. I mostly daily a 600 with a heavy clutch that does not fully engage till about 10 mph, and even in traffic I rarely find myself using the clutch except to change gears (I don't have a quickshifter). Obviously there are a number of factors at play but my car is also a manual, and I notice other manual drivers seemingly trying to drive their cars the exact same way they drive an automatic. Changing habits and techniques, and looking for ways to minimize clutch usage, helps tremendously.
Motorcycling won’t expand unless they go automatic. Just like cars. And older riders stop motorcycling and aren’t being replaced by younger riders at the same rate.
Bro you're wrong about that for example my home country the Philippines automatic motorcycle is very popular why because in my home county traffic is a piece of shit. Also btw motorcycles are more popular outside the us.@@armandotorres-iy1cw
This is an unpopular opinion, but i`m with u.... the same as cars, this day all cars are automatic, even sportscars, the world spins around comfort, and automatic big motorcycle its such a comfort
I am personally affronted (not really), that you didn’t include the 2014-2016 Honda NM4! It’s the most comfortable, reliable DCT cruiser, with cool looks, low center of gravity and tons of neat dashboard tricks. Only possible downside is the lack of a larger, effective gas tank. But that is easily overcome by carrying a couple extra gas canisters on board. It is my Beloved!
My 2015 NC700X DCT is my favorite jump on the bike and go bike, both for running to the grocery store and touring. Also have and RE Himalayan, G310GS, and an Aprilia RS660. Also had an HD lowrider, and a Honda Shadow Sabre 1100. Also Unless they changed the crank completely on the NC750X is a 270 degree parallel twin like the NC700X engine, but I have not looked up the details.
The Honda NC750X also gets over 60 mpg if it's ridden easy. The Honda design is amazingly efficient. There is a guy on RUclips, who has ridden one 225,000 miles and continues to ride it. He lives near Thailand. He said that on one long trip he made, he wrecked the bike and messed up his left hand. The DCT got him back home, where a clutch bike would have been impossible. All he has done is regular factory recommended maintenance on the bike. A great bike to buy used, I would think.
My 2019 NC750X DCT doesn’t have drive by wire throttle which came in 2021 so probably isn’t as smooth as the newer ones. I just use manual mode on twisty roads so I don’t get upset by an unexpected downshift in a curve. I toured from Arizona to West Texas on it last summer including some high mountain passes and it worked quite well for that so it’s much more than a scooter replacement. Also surprisingly good on dirt roads. I ride my NC750X about a thousand miles a month. The frunk is great for running errands plus sometimes I’ll put on the side cases. I also ride a Harley Dyna Lowrider but not nearly as many miles and never in the rain because that chrome doesn’t polish itself.
Automatic scooters are a big thing in Asia, For long and short commute it is so reliable and cost efficient, Honda, Yamaha and Suzuki, Kymco, Vespa reigns supreme in the scooter market
I think one way to expand this list beyond electric and scooters is to include another reason people look at automatic bikes and scooters…. The benefit of no stalling at an intersection. The Rekluse system and EFM autoclutch provide this benefit and now the MV Augusta SCS system incorporates this no stall benefit. I think soon you can do a follow up video to this and include the new SCS system and the upcoming Honda E-Clutch and BMW automatic system.
I had a 2020 Honda Shadow Phantom and traded up to the Rebel 1100T DCT. I am starting to have carpal tunnel issues in my clutch hand, so my hand would start going slightly numb while riding. I do enjoy riding the Rebel and I am so glad Honda has the option.
If you ever come to Koh Lanta Thailand i have currently 13 bikes and rising you could ride and review, 5 ducatis (scrambler cafe limited, nightshift 2022, streetfighter 848, and 2 Monsters with a Diavel coming soon), 2 mv agustas (Brutale 800 and a Brtutale 1090), a custom diablo 650 cafe, a harley 1200 sportster, a royal enfield scram 411, a Benelli TRK 502X, and even a Yammie XSR! coming soon 3 more ducatis, some Kawasakis (z900 and RS 900), and some morte harleys, a triumph rocket,and an Indian
My wife has a Vespa 300 gtx which i think is worthy of inclusion here... Along with all high power scooters for that matter. I think when most people think scooter they think a 50cc thing that cant go more than 30mph, but these are more than capable of riding on the interstate.
Since my first Yamaha Grizzly with their CVT, I'm so over manuels. You get to enjoy your surroundings more because your not distracted with shifting. Glad that Yamaha is doing Automatics on their street bikes. It's simply more relaxing.
I like my Honda Rebel 1100 DCT. Silky smooth, always in the right gear. So easy to operate. So comfortable around town and powerful enough for highway. (Add more superlatives here.) Honda has been at this game a long time. Ive been riding bikes for 40 years and have owned everything from Ducatis to Harleys, and I can’t say enough about the Rebel. This Yamaha looks interesting. It is funny how those who would never consider riding a DCT would also never consider a manual shift car.
@@dans2971 It’s an old school classic looking Harley-esque style except inline twin not V twin, which I don’t require. The stock pipe is ugly, I give you that. Ive had so many bikes I can appreciate many styles. But yeah, even to me, there are ugly bikes. I get a lot of compliments on it. My other bikes are Ducati Streetfighter V4 and Indian VTR carbon. But I change out the stable often. For discussion of DCT bikes, Honda is on top, on their 7th generation now. Very very refined.
I would like to correct you at 3:10 - The Honda NC750X uses a 270 degree parallel twin engine, the same one in the CB750 Hornet (but detuned). And I would like to add the Honda X-ADV 750 as a honorable mention- a great bike (maxi-scooter\adventure\else) especially the 2nd gen, BEAUTIFUL bike. Honda absolutely nailed the design on this one (oh yeah- and it also uses the same engine as the NC750X & the CB750 Hornet).
@@zikarifid8768 they're totally different engine. You don't even have to go deep in numbers to see that they are not the same. The easiest way to spot is the angle of the engine block. The DCT 750 engine block is almost flat to the ground, while the new 750 engine block is almost stand-up horizontal.
@@DarkOperationman I'm talking about the engine layout- 755cc parallel twin with 270 degree crankshaft offset... You are describing the position/orientation of the engine on each bike and bike, and of course the engines are mounted differently from one to another. So you too- go check yourself again.
@@zikarifid8768 same 755cc engine you said? You were wrong from the start. 750 DCT is 745cc 77x80 bore/stroke compression 10.7:1 hornet 750 is 755cc. 87x63 bore/stroke , compression 11:1 .. There are no component that theses 2 engines share at all.
I have a NC750X and a Rebel 1100, both DCT. They are great bikes, the former being practical and civilised while the latter being fun and borderline vicious. But you should have mentioned the NT1100 as well! I am considering replacing the NC750 with one of those.
Yamaha did something similar to the DCT with the Gen 2 FJR1300 AE model. It's a manual transmission the is electronically shifted with no clutch lever. Just give it gas and go but you still have manually shift with either the traditional foot shifter but it's just really an electronic switch or the optional paddel shifter mounted on the left handle bar. I've owned two on these bike and are just awesome bike.
Or do what my old man did, added a solenoid to pull on the clutch cable on his NC750X with a switch on the clutch lever. Not elegant, but it pulls in the clutch with a button mounted on top of the clutch level without interfering with the regular mechanism, legality maybe questionable depending on your local laws. All I care about is Dad is still riding, living life loud into his 70s and we go on country runs when I get home. I look forward to YammieNoob's posts over the next 30 years as my body slowly degrades. The desire never goes away, but in most cases you can engineer around it :)
To be clear, I love manual shifting on my motorcycles but evolution is unstoppable. Thank goodness. Therefore, as most modern cars in the world are now automatics could we not expect this to happen over time to the motorcycle industry? I think it will...just like the old motorcycles used to have a stupidly long lever,like cars, to shift gears. Then we have a small lever on the left hand side...to that we added the quickshifter technology...now the automatics are becoming extremely good. The question is: how reliable will these new DCTs be? How many km will we do with an Africa Twin before the clutches break down?
I was an early adopter of the X ADV DCT, having owned a Nissan GT R with dual clutch... he he ! Currently thinking of the Rebel 1100 DCT or the Gold Wing
I've got a full UK A license and I want to start riding again after a 40 year break but I have nerve damage in my legs, so an auto would be a big help, my car is also an auto.
I got a NC700X when they first came out. Paid 5500$ for it. It was the manual version and a great riding bike. Just needed more power the 750 isn't enough either for highway travel.
Ah the DCT: bridging the divide in the motorcycle world between scooter boys and the diehard gatekeepers who say anything without a clutch can’t be a “real” motorcycle…
I love manual transmission bikes. But, in this day and age, I want something that easy without worrying about something. So, DCT bikes will be my choice. I can use it as an automatic transmission or manual transmission minus the clutch. So yeah, DCT is the best choice (for me).
I will soon need to have my left ankle fused due to post traumatic severe ankle arthritis. I'm in constant pain but have delayed my operation for fear I'll never be able to ride again. These bikes give me hope although I will miss the shifter 😢
The dct is good if you develop nerve damage or arthritis in your left hand so long as it's not too severe it's far better than not riding I'm thinking the rebel 1100 dct with a Vance & Hines exhaust will work well for me as far as electric bikes beside range of people can't see you you want them to hear you as far as I'm concerned options are good we all do what we must to make it work
Having a knackered foot its painful to change gear, but ifi want to getback on a bike then auto is they way for me, my problem now is taking 2 bull dogs with me lol
Is this video old and reuploaded? Because Honda launched its E-clutch system a few months ago. Surpassing the DCT and the quick shifter in its best benefits, but also providing solutions that neither of those two technologies provided. The E-clutch is the automatic clutch par excellence, it has no negative points, everything is a gain.
I hurt my plantar fasciitis tendon when shifting gears that it hurts more when trying to ride that I’m looking to these type of auto bikes, doctor told me to look for alternatives when riding
Now if they’d just make one for beginners. (I know that’s a scooter but a scooter isn’t practical for real distances or highway speeds)my wife really wants to ride but has a hard time managing the gearbox and focusing on everything else while she’s learning. A rebel 500dct would be great.
I ride a Yamaha XMax, it's capable of Interstate speeds. It's only 300cc, but I've hit 85mph on it and I'm a heavy guy. 8000 miles on it in less than a year, 5 to 6 hour rides a day on weekends. My only complaint is passing and steep hills can be difficult at higher speeds, but it's taken me all over Texas so far.
14:58 YAMMIE is this new LIVEWIRE seriously ~130 pounds LIGHTER with 20% LESS HP but 2.5x the Torqueueueus??? That is interesting…and with much less weight and much more torque…it will be all the more fun to play around with. Top end speed may be unaffected given weight is down by about as much as the HP but idk.
Most modern motorcycles (especially premium and high-performance models) have bi-directional quick shifters that substantially reduce clutch usage. I don't understand why people need an automatic clutch on top of that. If you're constantly on the clutch then you're doing it wrong.
Any technical reason why DCTs won't work with lower power engines e.g. 300-500cc class? It's already super convenient, if you're taking the scare factor out of motorcycles by using a smaller engine but not becoming an actual scooter, more adoption?
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BMW has just launched a clutchless gearbox for some of their models.
can you put adventure tyres on a cruiser, why I'm asking because we got terrible road and not much asphalt and I like cruiser but I need adventure tyres on it because we got more sand and gravel and a lot of rain in DR Congo
The Africa twin is not sold in America since 2022 so unless some new 22’s are being sold, only Asia and Europe get the current 24 year model. Unless they have it now, but I doubt it.
You keep saying "scooter" as a colloquial for automatic transmission... BUT the most known scooters are MANUAL with or without clutch. Most honda scooters have semiautomatic transmission with manual shifting and auto centrifugal clutch... the Vespa scooter had a fully manual transmission with a manual clutch
First bike off the ranks and quiet a few errors.... Honda Nc750x firstly if you've only been in the game for 9 years, then yeah... you may not have heard of it. Another thing you may not know if you've only been in the game 9 years is that the Honda Nc 750 series of motorcycle actually has a 270 degree crank, not a 180! So yea Honda was doing it before it was considered cool. What you also probably don't know about the NC 750 is that it's actually 745cc not 755cc as you've stated. It's also one of very few productions motorcycles to have a larger stroke than it does bore size and the engine is actually half of a Honda Jazz engine from Honda's road car division. A bunch of very useful facts that you've ever not mentioned, or have, but we're wrong.
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Since i have 3 screws holding my left ankle together and very limited range of motion, I appreciate the DCT transmission on my Rebel.
Same!
did you not go thru physical therapy? I have a plate and more than 3 screws in my left ankle, in addition to the 8 lb nail within my left tibia (also secured with screws), and I run, jump, ride my bicycle.....
@icandsc No, I had no resources to be able to do physical therapy back then. They pulled the cartilage out since it was "smashed beyond use," so I've been bone on bone for 30 years.
Automatic transmission motorcycles are brilliant for people who have limited mobility in their feet or hand for the clutch
🧐👏 👏 👏@@icandsc
As of 2024 I'm a new rider that thought he could never be a rider due to minor disabilities. But the Rebel 1100 DCT has opened up my world and I'm so much happier
Wow really ?
I would like to buy one
Never rode a bike before
@leojohnwayne1422 if you've never ridden at all, you may want to start off with a scooter to get the feel of riding before taking on a motorcycle. I spent my young life on dirt bikes, so I had that experience to draw on
@@leojohnwayne1422dct enabled bikes are the easiest transition for riders new to the hobby.
I absolutely love my '17 Africa Twin DCT. It gets ridden like a dirt bike frequently and is a game changer off road. In heavy stop and go traffic, the best bike available. Bought mine on a whim thinking that I wouldn't loose money if I hated the DCT. That was 37,000mmiles ago. I wouldn't trade it for anything.
I love my AT/dct too, it gets no respect at the adventure bike rally I attend in the summer, people won’t even talk to you as soon as you tell them you ride a dct.
Im 5'10" any trouble touching the ground? My old klr 650. Which I hated was too tall.
@@bigwu100no , it is manageable at 5’10. Go a the dealer and try it on . 32.9 in (835 mm) in the standard position and 33.7 in (855 mm) in the low position. You can also buy an accessory low seat that lowers the seat height to 31.3 in (32.1 mm) or 31.3 in
As neuropathy makes my feet feel like pain filled stumps, an automatic bike is becoming something I am going to have to consider soon. Thanks for this.
Just a heads-up that you might appreciate: There is an aussie here on RUclips that has moved his rear brake to the left lever on his Africa Twin DCT. It's a mod I'm thinking of doing to my Rebel 1100. It's possible.
I have relatively recently developed a disability, soft tissue, muscle, joints, the less strain on my legs the better. That includes shifting (and walking, bikes are great to get closer to your destination than any car could ever get parking-wise in the UK). I use a small nimble electric bike for commute, it's great. I'd love to get Rebel but $$
I own 2020 Goldwing DCT TOUR. I never had a DCT in 35 years on 2 wheels. I will never shift again. Simply remarkable. You need to adopt to it and it takes around 2 weeks of riding to learn to bond with it. The Goldwing's DCT computer learns your riding habits and adjust to shifting to your style. My riding experience for 4 years now, is so relaxing, allowing me to really enjoy the ride and the bike. Strongly recommend to try.
I have a 2016 NC700 DCT. Absolutely love it. 73 mpg / 68 with passenger. Prefect commuter bike. Have the hard top and saddle cases. With the “frunk” and the hard cases I go grocery shopping with it haha. I can ride manual but I don’t think I will go back. DCT/auto all the way. Friends who ride gave me so much sh** when I got the bike because of it being automatic but when I let them ride it they loved it. 90% of my ride is travel to work and in the city. Stop and go traffic has nothing on this bike. Plus like you said Yammie the whole point is the get more people riding. We are all family. All the people who say automatic bikes are not motorcycles and are a-holes are the same people who give us riders a bad name. If anything enjoy the bike you have and don’t worry about what others think. Ride safe everyone.
im looking to acquire 2017 NC750X DCT. do u think it is worth it to get this 2024?
@ I would say yes to any year for this bike. Not having to worry, especially in traffic/stop and go lights every block, is amazing. Then get it on the open road and just focus on the ride is also a no brainer. With all the bike manufactures having more and more automatic versions of their bikes I really think that is the future and will get more riders out. Which to me the more the better. We are all family. F all the people who talk shit about an automatic bike when most of them probably have a quick shifter. Ride safe!!!
I’ve owned my NC750X for a week, and it’s simply amazing!!!
im 41 and love automatic, just way more comfortable and the same amount of fun😊
As someone who has a partially disabled left leg and sever foot drop I started on the Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sport DCT. It was a really amazing bike to learn on. It has several automatic drive modes and MANUAL. After the 1st week of riding I have exclusively used the manual mode, you can even get it with a foot shifting lever so you don't have to use the +/- buttons on the left hand cluster.
I have since picked up a 2023 Ducati Streetfighter V4 SP2 and a 2023 Honda CBR1000RR-R Fireblade SP and outfitted both with Kliktronic adaptive shifters. I did have to make custom brackets but now that I know I can not only ride but absolutely love life on two wheels, I can ride anything I can get an adaptive shifter mounted too!!
@@CawKee I prefer the manually transmissions in my other two bikes over the DCT but it has it's place. I wouldn't want an external adaptive shifter on my Africa Twin because I have laid it down in the wood several times and that would likely jack one of these up.
I have a manual and a DCT, and I love them both!
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Me too. Z900 and a Rebel 1100
Your rich 😂
For beginners,which is easier? ❤
@saadalani3991 IMO, the DCT is easier since it's a lot less to worry about and allows u to focus on everything else. But unfortunately, it only comes on larger bikes. Also, unless you're only ever going to ride a DCT, I'd suggest a small manual bike to learn how to shift well first. The Rebel 1100 also sits really low too, which is a huge plus. But it's still a big, more powerful bike. I started on a Rebel 300. If I were looking now, I would be looking hard at the new e-clutch bikes from Honda. They're 650cc tho
I’m 31 with no major health issues and still got a dct. Last week I got my first big bike, a honda NT1100 (which you don’t get in america) I originally wanted manual but the dealer convinced me for auto and I couldn’t be happier. In 90% of cases it just makes more sense. Won’t get tires commuting and less to worry about when touring so I can actually enjoy the ride.
The dct also meant that I jumped a couple of steps in difficulty. Coupled with the low down weight of the bike, I can already handle it like a pro.
For the off chance I want to shift my own gears, I can still stick it in manual mode and shift my own gears. You can buy a foot shifter too which pretty much makes it identical to a bike with a quickshifter.
I wish there were more auto bikes to be honest. In my market, the only options are the nc750, africa twin/nt1100 or the goldwing. Nothing else in between.
One reason people resist change is because they focus on what they have to give up, instead of what they have to gain.
I hadn’t considered a DCT bike until recently, I was shopping for a new bike and was intrigued with Honda’s DCT technology and how much it has been refined over the last decade, I purchased recently a 24 NC750x and it has been an adjustment riding with no clutch and manual foot shifter although I’m really enjoying the ride and not having to think about what gear I need to select, unless I want too then I simply select the manual mode overall though I prefer to allow the automatic DCT choose the gears and I can focus on everything else on the road!
Thank You Yam, my dad wants me to get an automatic to learn how to navigate the road until I upgrade to a non automatic can’t wait
I'm probably your dad's age, but I started and still have a BV 400 scooter that's amazing, now moving to a Triumph Speed 400. Your dad is suggesting a very good way to go about it. 🤙
Love this use case. Get comfortable with lean, maximum braking, and other fundamental motorcycle techniques, and graduate to a manual if you decide you want the additional engagement with the bike. Good luck on your riding journey.
Disagree. The clutch lever is an irreplaceable last resort to be able to cut power going to the wheel.
@@NicholasNormileYou make a fair point insofar that the clutch makes a nice panic button, but even a clutch is no substitute for skilled rider inputs. If you can’t manage difficult and/or emergency situations by rolling off the throttle and applying maximum braking (if necessary), then your first priority as a rider should be learning to use your controls more efficiently. In that use case I see it as no more than a convenient shortcut, in the same way that a DCT is for shifting. Slow speed maneuvers, on the other hand, are a different story. Despite what Yammie said, I do lament the lack of a friction zone for slow speed maneuvers when riding a DCT bike, and find it more of a nuisance than anything. For that reason, I have considered trading my DCT bike for something with bidirectional quick-shifting, but cannot bring myself to give up the comfort of a DCT for riding in traffic.
@@knighthrehor2000 personally, I think that in many cases, people who find themselves using the clutch constantly in traffic are unnecessarily making it much more difficult than it has any reason to be. I mostly daily a 600 with a heavy clutch that does not fully engage till about 10 mph, and even in traffic I rarely find myself using the clutch except to change gears (I don't have a quickshifter). Obviously there are a number of factors at play but my car is also a manual, and I notice other manual drivers seemingly trying to drive their cars the exact same way they drive an automatic. Changing habits and techniques, and looking for ways to minimize clutch usage, helps tremendously.
Motorcycling won’t expand unless they go automatic. Just like cars. And older riders stop motorcycling and aren’t being replaced by younger riders at the same rate.
Maybe in the u.s but around the world motorcycles seem very popular
Bro you're wrong about that for example my home country the Philippines automatic motorcycle is very popular why because in my home county traffic is a piece of shit. Also btw motorcycles are more popular outside the us.@@armandotorres-iy1cw
This is an unpopular opinion, but i`m with u.... the same as cars, this day all cars are automatic, even sportscars, the world spins around comfort, and automatic big motorcycle its such a comfort
As a new girly to motorcycles I highly recommend the Honda rebel 1100 DCT. I absolutely love it!
I am personally affronted (not really), that you didn’t include the 2014-2016 Honda NM4! It’s the most comfortable, reliable DCT cruiser, with cool looks, low center of gravity and tons of neat dashboard tricks. Only possible downside is the lack of a larger, effective gas tank. But that is easily overcome by carrying a couple extra gas canisters on board. It is my Beloved!
I bought a 9.5 year old nm4. Totally agree with you. The fuel range is an issue for a long ride. And the fuel gauge is not very helpful.
Love my stable of manual bikes. But my NC750DCT is brilliant as a daily rider in rush hour traffic. And I still get 65+ mpg in traffic.
3:12 the NC750X is actually a 270 crossplane crank, not a 180. So with a pipe on, it would be pretty fun
My 2015 NC700X DCT is my favorite jump on the bike and go bike, both for running to the grocery store and touring. Also have and RE Himalayan, G310GS, and an Aprilia RS660. Also had an HD lowrider, and a Honda Shadow Sabre 1100. Also Unless they changed the crank completely on the NC750X is a 270 degree parallel twin like the NC700X engine, but I have not looked up the details.
The Honda NC750X also gets over 60 mpg if it's ridden easy. The Honda design is amazingly efficient. There is a guy on RUclips, who has ridden one 225,000 miles and continues to ride it. He lives near Thailand. He said that on one long trip he made, he wrecked the bike and messed up his left hand. The DCT got him back home, where a clutch bike would have been impossible. All he has done is regular factory recommended maintenance on the bike. A great bike to buy used, I would think.
My 2019 NC750X DCT doesn’t have drive by wire throttle which came in 2021 so probably isn’t as smooth as the newer ones. I just use manual mode on twisty roads so I don’t get upset by an unexpected downshift in a curve.
I toured from Arizona to West Texas on it last summer including some high mountain passes and it worked quite well for that so it’s much more than a scooter replacement. Also surprisingly good on dirt roads.
I ride my NC750X about a thousand miles a month. The frunk is great for running errands plus sometimes I’ll put on the side cases.
I also ride a Harley Dyna Lowrider but not nearly as many miles and never in the rain because that chrome doesn’t polish itself.
Automatic scooters are a big thing in Asia, For long and short commute it is so reliable and cost efficient, Honda, Yamaha and Suzuki, Kymco, Vespa reigns supreme in the scooter market
I think one way to expand this list beyond electric and scooters is to include another reason people look at automatic bikes and scooters…. The benefit of no stalling at an intersection. The Rekluse system and EFM autoclutch provide this benefit and now the MV Augusta SCS system incorporates this no stall benefit. I think soon you can do a follow up video to this and include the new SCS system and the upcoming Honda E-Clutch and BMW automatic system.
That is more a reasons at all. Everyone can stall and do stall at an intersection from the to time regardless of years of experience.
I just bought a second hand VFR1200XD DCT and it's my favourite Honda so far.
I had a 2020 Honda Shadow Phantom and traded up to the Rebel 1100T DCT. I am starting to have carpal tunnel issues in my clutch hand, so my hand would start going slightly numb while riding. I do enjoy riding the Rebel and I am so glad Honda has the option.
If you ever come to Koh Lanta Thailand i have currently 13 bikes and rising you could ride and review, 5 ducatis (scrambler cafe limited, nightshift 2022, streetfighter 848, and 2 Monsters with a Diavel coming soon), 2 mv agustas (Brutale 800 and a Brtutale 1090), a custom diablo 650 cafe, a harley 1200 sportster, a royal enfield scram 411, a Benelli TRK 502X, and even a Yammie XSR! coming soon 3 more ducatis, some Kawasakis (z900 and RS 900), and some morte harleys, a triumph rocket,and an Indian
Yammy, just finished my first rider class this past weekend, first bike is r1, 140 today.
My wife has a Vespa 300 gtx which i think is worthy of inclusion here... Along with all high power scooters for that matter. I think when most people think scooter they think a 50cc thing that cant go more than 30mph, but these are more than capable of riding on the interstate.
Yep I ride a Yamaha XMax, it's 300cc and I have no problem keeping up with Interstate traffic.
the new 2024 honda cbr650r has the e-clutch. super cool!!! but i dont think its in US yet.
Can’t wait for it to arrive in USA
Since my first Yamaha Grizzly with their CVT, I'm so over manuels. You get to enjoy your surroundings more because your not distracted with shifting. Glad that Yamaha is doing Automatics on their street bikes. It's simply more relaxing.
I like my Honda Rebel 1100 DCT. Silky smooth, always in the right gear. So easy to operate. So comfortable around town and powerful enough for highway. (Add more superlatives here.) Honda has been at this game a long time. Ive been riding bikes for 40 years and have owned everything from Ducatis to Harleys, and I can’t say enough about the Rebel. This Yamaha looks interesting. It is funny how those who would never consider riding a DCT would also never consider a manual shift car.
@@dans2971 It’s an old school classic looking Harley-esque style except inline twin not V twin, which I don’t require. The stock pipe is ugly, I give you that. Ive had so many bikes I can appreciate many styles. But yeah, even to me, there are ugly bikes. I get a lot of compliments on it. My other bikes are Ducati Streetfighter V4 and Indian VTR carbon. But I change out the stable often. For discussion of DCT bikes, Honda is on top, on their 7th generation now. Very very refined.
I’m personally a fan of Honda’s CVT offerings. My go-to bike is an ADV150, which is basically the lovechild of a PCX and an Africa Twin.
Got a 24 Honda Navi about a week ago and it's been effortless and a hell of a lot of fun.
Not a single motorcyclist has given me the wave though lol
I would like to correct you at 3:10 - The Honda NC750X uses a 270 degree parallel twin engine, the same one in the CB750 Hornet (but detuned).
And I would like to add the Honda X-ADV 750 as a honorable mention- a great bike (maxi-scooter\adventure\else) especially the 2nd gen, BEAUTIFUL bike. Honda absolutely nailed the design on this one (oh yeah- and it also uses the same engine as the NC750X & the CB750 Hornet).
I dont think they are the same engine. But both are 270 degree
@@Boburto They are the same engine, check again.
@@zikarifid8768 they're totally different engine. You don't even have to go deep in numbers to see that they are not the same.
The easiest way to spot is the angle of the engine block. The DCT 750 engine block is almost flat to the ground, while the new 750 engine block is almost stand-up horizontal.
@@DarkOperationman I'm talking about the engine layout- 755cc parallel twin with 270 degree crankshaft offset...
You are describing the position/orientation of the engine on each bike and bike, and of course the engines are mounted differently from one to another.
So you too- go check yourself again.
@@zikarifid8768 same 755cc engine you said? You were wrong from the start. 750 DCT is 745cc 77x80 bore/stroke compression 10.7:1
hornet 750 is 755cc. 87x63 bore/stroke , compression 11:1
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There are no component that theses 2 engines share at all.
NC750x=270 degree parallel twin. Diesel like power and an excellent freeway commuter. Low speed handling is also surprisingly good.
I have a NC750X and a Rebel 1100, both DCT. They are great bikes, the former being practical and civilised while the latter being fun and borderline vicious. But you should have mentioned the NT1100 as well! I am considering replacing the NC750 with one of those.
DCT on the Africa Twin is a total game changer off road.
Yamaha did something similar to the DCT with the Gen 2 FJR1300 AE model. It's a manual transmission the is electronically shifted with no clutch lever. Just give it gas and go but you still have manually shift with either the traditional foot shifter but it's just really an electronic switch or the optional paddel shifter mounted on the left handle bar. I've owned two on these bike and are just awesome bike.
Great points. More Options are always better than having no options.
As handicapped, I'm all for automatic!
Or do what my old man did, added a solenoid to pull on the clutch cable on his NC750X with a switch on the clutch lever. Not elegant, but it pulls in the clutch with a button mounted on top of the clutch level without interfering with the regular mechanism, legality maybe questionable depending on your local laws. All I care about is Dad is still riding, living life loud into his 70s and we go on country runs when I get home.
I look forward to YammieNoob's posts over the next 30 years as my body slowly degrades. The desire never goes away, but in most cases you can engineer around it :)
Just another happy Africa Twin DCT rider… That bike is better than I’ll ever be!
According to Jerry Paladino and MC Rider, the Goldwing DCT is very difficult to maneuver during parking lot, slow speed drills.
Thanks for not judging without trying.
I have two 2010 VFR1200F one is the DCT model and it's a blast to ride.
I don't like automatic anything BUT the more variety and the more options available, the better for all and I do like that!
To be clear, I love manual shifting on my motorcycles but evolution is unstoppable. Thank goodness.
Therefore, as most modern cars in the world are now automatics could we not expect this to happen over time to the motorcycle industry?
I think it will...just like the old motorcycles used to have a stupidly long lever,like cars, to shift gears.
Then we have a small lever on the left hand side...to that we added the quickshifter technology...now the automatics are becoming extremely good.
The question is: how reliable will these new DCTs be? How many km will we do with an Africa Twin before the clutches break down?
I was an early adopter of the X ADV DCT, having owned a Nissan GT R with dual clutch... he he ! Currently thinking of the Rebel 1100 DCT or the Gold Wing
I've got a full UK A license and I want to start riding again after a 40 year break but I have nerve damage in my legs, so an auto would be a big help, my car is also an auto.
I got a NC700X when they first came out. Paid 5500$ for it. It was the manual version and a great riding bike. Just needed more power the 750 isn't enough either for highway travel.
as someone with wrist and ankle issues, auto works good for me
VFR1200 ;-) AT1000, GL1800, AT1100. I have really enjoyed the DCT in these bikes.
Yammie, I know you hate the GS line, but the BMW1300GS also has an automatic transmission
Ah the DCT: bridging the divide in the motorcycle world between scooter boys and the diehard gatekeepers who say anything without a clutch can’t be a “real” motorcycle…
Never on my watch!...ts1 and RB20 👌
I've been riding a VFR1200 DCT for the last four years, absolutely nothing wrong, great bike very enjoyable. Let's me enjoy the touring.
@@alantightwad2020Nice bike choice! Is it the 1200F or the 1200X? I have the 1200X myself, and love the thing.
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Mines is the 1200f DCT absolutely fabulous.
I'm loving the quick shifter on my XSR900
4:34 the ultimate grocery machine
As someone who's has a left leg amputation these are the bikes I have to ride now
I don't think there's anything wrong with auto bikes, but as of my current state, I wouldn't choose one. I like the feeling of shifting gears.
I love manual transmission bikes. But, in this day and age, I want something that easy without worrying about something. So, DCT bikes will be my choice. I can use it as an automatic transmission or manual transmission minus the clutch. So yeah, DCT is the best choice (for me).
I will soon need to have my left ankle fused due to post traumatic severe ankle arthritis. I'm in constant pain but have delayed my operation for fear I'll never be able to ride again. These bikes give me hope although I will miss the shifter 😢
Proud owner of a 2014 Honda CTX700:))
The dct is good if you develop nerve damage or arthritis in your left hand so long as it's not too severe it's far better than not riding I'm thinking the rebel 1100 dct with a Vance & Hines exhaust will work well for me as far as electric bikes beside range of people can't see you you want them to hear you as far as I'm concerned options are good we all do what we must to make it work
I prefer DCT over manual, have both. Just don't care to shift all the time and want to enjoy the road and it's views.
Learning on a Navi atm only 600 miles so far, will upgrade in a year or so.
Absolutely based, i love automatics!!! less worries, more convenience.
Having a knackered foot its painful to change gear, but ifi want to getback on a bike then auto is they way for me, my problem now is taking 2 bull dogs with me lol
Is this video old and reuploaded? Because Honda launched its E-clutch system a few months ago. Surpassing the DCT and the quick shifter in its best benefits, but also providing solutions that neither of those two technologies provided. The E-clutch is the automatic clutch par excellence, it has no negative points, everything is a gain.
I had a Honda Shadow and thought it was great until I rode an NC750X. Now I own a 2024 NC750X! Traded in the Shadow.
LOL, you showed a photo of a 2020 Harley Davidson Livewire ELW in place of a 2024 Livewire Mulholland :)
you forgot Honda's X-ADV 750
its a DCT too but its more of a scooter and it uses the same engine as the NC750X
I'm on the side of DCT because of the TRAFFIC JAM in city riding. But they don't offer it in small commuter bikes -_-
Dude. I like the way the basic Goldwing looks. Wow.
the NC750X is a 270 degree ptwin
Only DCT bike I’d consider is a goldwing. They can keep the rest but I see the appeal.
my first bike was a 2nd gen r6. 2005 to be exact. good starter bike?
I hurt my plantar fasciitis tendon when shifting gears that it hurts more when trying to ride that I’m looking to these type of auto bikes, doctor told me to look for alternatives when riding
This is a dream for people with tunnel vision and ADHD
...have had 2 DCT's and love the DCT...!!!
Hey Yams- are you gonna maybe take a look at the Rs457 from Aprilia?
Now if they’d just make one for beginners. (I know that’s a scooter but a scooter isn’t practical for real distances or highway speeds)my wife really wants to ride but has a hard time managing the gearbox and focusing on everything else while she’s learning. A rebel 500dct would be great.
I ride a Yamaha XMax, it's capable of Interstate speeds. It's only 300cc, but I've hit 85mph on it and I'm a heavy guy. 8000 miles on it in less than a year, 5 to 6 hour rides a day on weekends. My only complaint is passing and steep hills can be difficult at higher speeds, but it's taken me all over Texas so far.
Yammie, could you try out the Ultraviolette F77 next time you are in India? I would love to see your thoughts on it.
Why not put the triptronic selector on the usual place on the left foot?
NC750X is not only DCT, Honda still have the manual version.
Honda! Bring back an updated CTX.
Dct is superb.
14:58 YAMMIE is this new LIVEWIRE seriously ~130 pounds LIGHTER with 20% LESS HP but 2.5x the Torqueueueus???
That is interesting…and with much less weight and much more torque…it will be all the more fun to play around with. Top end speed may be unaffected given weight is down by about as much as the HP but idk.
I like semi-automatic motorcycles, the ones where you don't have to use the clutch. A auto-clutch with bidirectional quickshifter type motorcyle.
Most modern motorcycles (especially premium and high-performance models) have bi-directional quick shifters that substantially reduce clutch usage. I don't understand why people need an automatic clutch on top of that. If you're constantly on the clutch then you're doing it wrong.
I love driving my Navi more than my Nina for short store runs. Just so fun holding a coffee while riding lol jk
Any technical reason why DCTs won't work with lower power engines e.g. 300-500cc class? It's already super convenient, if you're taking the scare factor out of motorcycles by using a smaller engine but not becoming an actual scooter, more adoption?
BMW has just launched a clutchless gearbox for some of their models.
A couple pictures are of the Livewire One.
can you put adventure tyres on a cruiser, why I'm asking because we got terrible road and not much asphalt and I like cruiser but I need adventure tyres on it because we got more sand and gravel and a lot of rain in DR Congo
Not to forget the old Honda Matic!
The Africa twin is not sold in America since 2022 so unless some new 22’s are being sold, only Asia and Europe get the current 24 year model. Unless they have it now, but I doubt it.
You keep saying "scooter" as a colloquial for automatic transmission... BUT the most known scooters are MANUAL with or without clutch. Most honda scooters have semiautomatic transmission with manual shifting and auto centrifugal clutch... the Vespa scooter had a fully manual transmission with a manual clutch
Like the vid I've got the cmx 1100 dct and like it, just wish you would tell us weight in kg and power in nm also
First bike off the ranks and quiet a few errors.... Honda Nc750x firstly if you've only been in the game for 9 years, then yeah... you may not have heard of it. Another thing you may not know if you've only been in the game 9 years is that the Honda Nc 750 series of motorcycle actually has a 270 degree crank, not a 180! So yea Honda was doing it before it was considered cool. What you also probably don't know about the NC 750 is that it's actually 745cc not 755cc as you've stated. It's also one of very few productions motorcycles to have a larger stroke than it does bore size and the engine is actually half of a Honda Jazz engine from Honda's road car division. A bunch of very useful facts that you've ever not mentioned, or have, but we're wrong.
I need a video on speed wobbles
Yammie has wheeled the GSX-8r!