High Quality Japanese Troll Puzzles 2
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- High Quality Japanese Troll Puzzles 2
All puzzles originally from / papillotecontet
2 translations by Leaving Leaves :)
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as a Japanese viewer:
1:34 the original sentence says “1マス”(Ichi-masu), it usually means one area of grid background.
so it’s difficult to solve this puzzle by using a different scale square.
8:58 in the first paragraph,
“The minor planet P, its diameter is less than 1km, and has no bumps and dips, it is regarded as research target perfectly spherical planet, so 2 researcher were dispatched.”
sorry for poor translation. I hope this helps your thinking.
and Thank you Icely, for touching puzzles form Japan!
Chess Battle Advanced!
you made someone from the other end of the world say "Chess Battle Advanced". How do you feel?
@@sadmate_ chess battle
@@sadmate_ Advanced
@@mathematicskid advanced
and i thought the solution involved a metasquare
For anyone who still hasnt figured out the solution to the puzzle at 9:00
You put the luggage at slot 1 and since dispatcher A can climb 1 high steps the luggage basically created a complete staircase on the left but since the planet is completely spherical, dispatcher A can go the long way around to dispatcher B.
I don't like how the question was phrased. "Spherical" implies it's a 3D world (yes the Japanese text said "spherical" not "circular"), so the astronaut could just go around the obstacle without having to go around the globe
@@rickole7404 I've also thought about that and I knew that it would break the whole puzzle and so I assumed it was just bad phrasing of their sentence and actually meant circular even in the Japanese writing
Dispatcher A: *loops around a 2d image of a "spherical" planet
Also Dispatcher A: "I think I forgot something."
Dispatcher B: "If you forgot, then it wasn't important."
Dispatcher A: "Yeah you're right."
The whole 3rd dimension:
Yup
Ohhhh. That… was a bit silly. But troll is troll.
4:15 the red piece to the right is only 2 long instead of 3, which means the L shape is resting on one of the squares of the red piece, so it's not floating
My answer for the same colored circles was going to be moving a 3x3 black square
Damn same
Yea that one makes more sense than his answer actually
I even thought "oh, it must be that, it's set up so perfectly by the thick wall" and then the real answer blindsided me lmao
Same
Yo pensé lo mismo (same)
at 9:35, you push it to position 1. Here's the reason why: it's a planet. It's a circle
I actually saw the solution to the last one immediately. The goal was outside of the maze so I immediately started looking for another brake in the wall.
it's definitely interesting since the goal didn't "need" to be outside but it was a big hint to going that way :p
For the penguin puzzle, you could also move a 3x3 black square to the path where the penguin needs to go. Still one black square
I was thinking that too but maybe with a better translation "square" might come out as "tile"
@@Anikin3- yeah the pin made this comment irrelevant lol
you could also move the tile bellow the fish and have the fish fall
Low quality japanese troll puzzles when
Ben's Comments:
Then that'd be a lesson on how *not* to make troll puzzles.
On the hamster one, you don't need to assume that the green is flat-side-up, because the red piece to the side is shorter than the rest; necessarily meaning that part of it is UNDER the green.
These were all really easy, like 30 seconds is the longest one took me.
I didn't notice the red piece but that's a cool detail :)
That's the part I don't get. If the red piece is under the green piece, how can the hamster pass? The red piece is 4 blocks long, so it being 2 to the side and 2 under means that there is no passage for the hamster. Am I missing something?
Edit: Wait Im dumb, red is 3 wide lol, forget about it
chess battle advanced@@nerooooooo
the solution i had in mind for the penguin puzzle is to move the 3x3 of tiles (still "a black square") to make a bridge to the goal
but your solution definitely feels like the intended one
Some guy said that the japanese characters didnt leave that ambiguity so it was just slightly bad translation
I really want a Professor Layton game with these type of puzzles
honestly normal Professor Layton already has enough bullshit troll logic
"If there's a fork in the road, and one road sign says "" which way should you go to not be stuck in traffic?"
and then theres the seven squares of chocolate, and plenty other puzzles that are bullshit, because the only non bullshit PL puzzles are ones that can be considered math and geometry homework for 12 year olds, like the "my sister is three times older than me, but in 6 years she'll ony be twice older" or the "square of area 1 is in a circle in a square in a circle in a square, find the size of the big square" which is just tedium and not bullshit troll logic
The solution I was thinking of for the second troll puzzle is much simpler. Remove the black square from underneath the fish so the fish falls to the ground where you can access it. I mean, it's technically not written in the rules that the fish is affected by gravity, but then, neither is the fact that you can fall into the tutorial room from above.
The fish is already hovering in mid-air. Are you suggesting it can only float slightly above the ground it's on?
well there is no rule saying the rooms aren't connected
3:14 I tought you would remove the block under the fish to make it fall
Ben's Comments:
I think I get it now, most trick puzzles involve circumventing the rules in some way - which isn't that fun - but these trick puzzles involve a little nuance in the rules which gives the puzzles an extra dimension, turning them from seemingly impossible to certainly possible.
Bad trick puzzles want you to break the rules, but good trick puzzles hide something extra in plain sight, you just have to find it.
For the puzzle at 9:05, is it just place the luggage at 1 then walk out from the left? The puzzle specifically says that the planet is perfectly spherical, which means that Dispatcher A can just walk all the way around the planet till they get to B
For the second puzzle, I wish it specified that you can only move a 1x1 square, since I ended up with a not-so-satisfying solution involving moving a 3x3 chunk. The actual solution is really nice though.
8:45 Actually, it is impossible for the path to be two steps lower because then it would be visible up top.
it does specify exactly that originally, it is an incorrect translation.
it specified it in the original japanese
I think that for the fish puzzle it should've been the block under the fish so that it can fall down
3:41 At the first glance at the maze, I saw in the corner of my eyes were the words "TOP VIEW"
So I took a closer look to see that some blocks could not be made with the pieces given on a 2 dimensional plane. This was so satisfying to figure out.
For the phantom thief puzzle, if you can teleport that far away, you shouldn’t need a helicopter to escape 😂
Just get your partner to place a cardboard cutout of a heart in the spot
The helicopter doesn't actually work, there's just another picture of a helicopter in their base so they use it to teleport home for a clean getaway
@@mambodog5322Lol
1:35 this puzzle, my solution was to move the block under the goal somewhere to make it fall
2:35 for the penguin puzzle, my guess was to move the black square below the fish and the fish will fall down, the penguin will just go forward to get it easily after that, but the answer you showed was kinda good too that was smart
the fish was already floating anyways
i feel smart figuring out the red and blue flag puzzle before Icely
Yeah I think the "clever trick" of the astronaut puzzle was that the planet was small and round, so you can walk all the way around it. It's just not hard because we think of planets as round all the time.
alternate solution to the black square:
it doesn't say what size the square has to be, you can move a 3x3 square to fill the bridge
The game EDGE is full of isometric perspective tricks like in the ceiling puzzle. EDGE isn't a puzzle game, but it's still fun and could be worth checking out!
RIP deafening white noise mic, you will be missed... Ultimate CBA Moment
for the second one, my ''solution'' was to remove the block beneath the fish, which would fall, letting the penguin pick it up? i feel both smarter and dumber after watching this! new sub :3
for the penguin puzzle, it doesn't say how big the black square has to be, so I just took a 3x3 square from the blue hole's platform and made a bridge to the fish platform
it said 1 grid square in japanese
My solution for the penguin puzzle was the move the block under the fish, making it fall down where the penguin could get it normally.
for some reason these types of puzzles are really entertaining
These weren't difficult. Though my guess for the second puzzle was to move the 3x3 square since it didn't clarify how big the square had to be, but your solution is way better.
Also the hidden path in the mouse puzzle couldn't be two steps down assuming every piece is the same height, otherwise it'd be attached corner to corner and you'd still be able to barely see it poking out from underneath.
2nd puzzle doesn't limit how you move the black square, just move the square the penguin starts on and carry the penguin over to the goal.
did you get a new mic setup? the audio is really great in this episode 😄
I told you the mics were never bad, it was just me placing them on the floor before, instead of (newly) taping them to my desk :)))))))
@@IcelyPuzzles on the FLOOR ?? oh my gosh ….. well nevertheless this is such an improvement hahaha
@@itsolie hey actually I think I told you it was on the ceiling last time as a joke
uhhh
so maybe I said something maximally false lmao
*"Hello, this is the astrononsensical puzzle company, have you seen a dispatcher anywhere?"*
A lot of the time, it's the background. Though, a few of these appeared to be just a (literal) edge case.
Years of Legend of Zelda rock push puzzles trained me for that gorilla puzzle
In the rat one I considered the extra bit of shadow but assumed it was the shadow of the raised bit, due to perspective from the point source of light
man, it took me just a glance to notice that empty wall at that last one
(this comment was made before watching the video) guys icely puzzles only has about 19K subs, subscribe more because he makes really good content for us and he should get more money for his job. it would be really nice if this comment gets pinned so everyone knows.
I coukdnt get enough of icely solving japanese puzzles
Personally I think the key presses would make stuff more lively but I get where you're coming from
As soon as you said “rigid” the first puzzle is solved, never mind Jelly Is Sticky reference
10:21 I figured that out the exact same moment as him, it was satisfying to say the least
perhaps for the penguin one, you can also move the tile under the fish? it only says "falling is OK", not that it applies specifically to the penguin only (assuming the translation captures that nuance properly)
6:22 it never says he immediately falls to the ground so you could just use the heart then fall into the other star
my awnser to the phantom thief was to get to that ledge diamond and falling into that `) symbol to teleport to the same symbol on top of the helicopter
for the warp hole quiz, they never specefied square size
I don't know if this was supposed to be like a "follow along and solve with me" type of video, but it would have been nice if you had said something like "pause here if you want to solve it yourself" before saying the answer. Just would have been helpful to have a clear division between the explanation of the rules and the answer.
I guess, it was intended like that but I can understand not really seeing the separation. I think the separation is very obvious if I'm like looking at the puzzle 'for real' and trying to see what the trick is, and slowing down, but for the puzzles where I noticed it quickly there's almost nothing there lol
I paused at 9:42 took me about ten seconds to notice it and im stoned, you just always look at mazes backwards, go from the goal to the start, the "normal" route has a guaranteed minimum of 2 so obviously that couldnt be the answer so i immediately looked at the ones on the edge and saw the missing pixels
I'm proud that I found the solution to the first puzzle
Which is pushing the border of the maze
there's actually another solution, with the same concept on the first one. Go down from the start, all the way down. then push down the border. Done. Less moves :)
Do more of these PLEASE
for 1:35 i thought of taking a 3x3 section of the second platform (technically a singular black square) and bridging the gap
the translation is wrong, the original says a 1x1 square
@@mathematicskid well then
@@mathematicskid it wouda been clever tho
7:04 I saw that shadow there, sneaky
Ok, after the previous video it was easy, but still fun :)
9:32 1. a goes up to the left and goes around the planet to reach b.
For me the solution for the second puzzle was removing the square beneath the fish so that it falls, because "falling is okay" ._.
7:13 the floor was the shadow of the ceiling
I might make the Katakana Puzzle in BIY
Maybe even the penguin one
0:34 Calling this before I get the answer. You have to push the border.
1:36 I think you have to move the block so that the goal falls idk. 1:56 NO WAIT YOU HAVE TO MOVE THE SQUARE ABOVE THE O IN OK BELOW THE O IN GOAL
Couldn't get the third one.
草 Battle Advanced
艹 Battle Advanced
the last one probably wouldnt actually take you that much time because it took me like 3 minutes without any tools to find it (i am terrible with puzzles)
Blocks and hamster puzzle, you have the wrong solution but the right idea. Next to that green block is a 1x2 red even tho the red blocks are 1x3. It's the red block that's propped up on the green one, like...
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0:36 Go to the far right and push the wall.
Edit: EZ
I almost instantly solved the first puzzle lol
Pause for this one and saw that there was no wall there within the first 30 seconds 11:57
Uhhh yessssssss the puzzle is
I solved the rat puzzle before Icely did hee hee
For the penguin puzzle, couldn't you just remove the block under the fish? Thus, the fish falls, allowing the penguin to get to it?
5:57 you can fall but do you fall instantly?
0:20 i solved the first puzzle at this timestamp.
チェスの戦いが進んだ
Uh, can’t you just go to the down left corner, push the block left and push the block up?
only 1 block push in the first game
8:45 but the second bump is a seperate piece according to the shadow so how can you do it?
what are you on about
These are fun!!
what was the solution to @9:33?
Nice
9:00 - what is the solution for this one?
It goes in spot 1, since the planet is "perfectly shperical", escaping from the left is just as valid
my guess is 1, go to the stairs and then go around the planet (if it's 2d, and you can go around the crater if it's 3d)
its 3, theres a faint mark in the top right of the box if you look closely. its hard to see beacuse of the lower resolution though
10:20 I noticed in like 10 sec when you showed the rules. I didn't need the zoom. I guess I can see pretty well huh
Mmm japan
What’s the solution for the puzzle at 9:30
put box on 1, jump over to the left, remembet the planet is a perfectly spherical minor planet and therefore left edge loops to right, A and B can happily be together again
I don't understand why people find puzzles like these exciting or interesting. More often than not they're contrived and the solution isn't to think and figure it out, but to look at the image as long as possible and find something that sticks out. Which is really stupid because every puzzle has a slightly different style and what someone would consider a solution another person would consider a coincidence or artistic freedom.
An example for a bad puzzle imo is the penguin puzzle. The rules aren't clear enough to tell you you aren't allowed to move a 3x3 square. The fish on its tile is floating a bit above it so it's fair to assume that if you remove the tile below it that it would just keep on floating there. And your solution shows the last point i had about the solution/coincidence.
hi
fir- oh nvm
Chess battle advanced
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cba
😂 why is it like that?