Hi Nick, well done. I love how you went thru the pros and cons of each quad. I ordered the Mobula 7 last weekend. The main reason was being able to easily Change the angle of the camera and being able to swap it out. Take care and keep your props up.
I'd argue the US/UK65 has some advantages IF this is important to you compared to the Mobula 7: 1. Cost. The US/UK65 is even cheaper at usually around $70-80. However, do be aware you should immediately buy a UR65 frame or similar because the US/UK65 hydrodipped frames break if you even give them a funny look. Still, that's $3. 2. Parts are also less expensive, in addition to batteries if you compare running 1S against 2S. 2S takes twice the batteries to run. 3. US65/UK65 both have Smart Audio, Mobula 7 doesn't. 4. It's not just about speed limitations when choosing a smaller whoop. It's also about punch outs, too, and flattening your camera angle doesn't alone stop excessive climbs in close quarters. Granted, you could limit your throttle stick in your setup, but if you don't want to do that, a 65mm whoop is a good way to stop from smashing into the ceiling nearly as quickly or fast. 5. Less disturbance of objects from crashing into them. The US/UK65s are out of the gate 6-7g lighter. Add an extra battery for the Mobula 7, and you're at 12g heavier. That may not sound like much, but you're talking a 50% increase in weight. I don't honestly know what qualitative difference that would make in crashes in terms of damage to trinckets and things around the house. My wife has little Disney figurines and stuff all over the place. I do know I can fly full tilt with the US65 into anything she has around the house, and it can't damage anything crashing into it. If you're worried about that, the lighter the whoop, the less likely you may damage stuff like that. For my house setup, I personally like the US/UK65. It's got the perfect amount of power for me to zoom around the circular fly track through the downstairs, and I love flying stupid fast like a bat out of hell, so ensuring I don't damage anything around my house when I crash a hundred times is an extremely high priority. My couches aren't particularly comfortable to sleep on. :-)
That's a detailed responce and some valid points.......My problem with the uk/us65 which I originally wanted to buy was that my Frsky Taranis x9d se is the EU version so would not work with the uk65 straight out of the box so to speak I went on a few forums to find the answer but all I could find was either I had to change my tx software to international which then meant I would have to change my other 4 quads rx's to international to or I had to bind in D8 which no one really explained what i'd lose going from D16 to D8 (I know channels but how would that effect the quad ?)......So the Mobula7 with its choice of versions including the EU version was why I chose it over the others and with Nicks 3 videos he posted on here has persuaded me for my personal requirements I have made the right choice........But had I have had an international tx I would have bought the UK65 a few weeks ago before the Mobula7 was mentioned and released. However for the price I bought the Mobula7 for on Aliexpress (assumming it turns up ?) Looking at the side by side comparisons the Mobula7 can be run 1 or 2s whereas the UK65 can't so by changing camera angles I will have more choice for indoor and outdoor flying if I want.........This hobby is a personal preference and everyone will choose quads based on their requirements there's no right or wrong answer and the help others post on forums and RUclips gives everyone else choices so whatever you fly enjoy the hobby :)
Any 70-75mm especially in 2s will perform circles around a 65mm, especially when it's 1s, when outdoors. None of these being discussed however is great outdoors. Definitely the Mobula 7 and Beta 75 are more versatile to do both. I wouldn't say the US/UK 65 is always better indoors. It depends on where indoors you're flying. For tighter quarters, I would argue the US/UK65 is better. Not to promote my channel, but look at my flying path compared to Nick's. ruclips.net/video/m_gW7Y7rV-Q/видео.html If you're flying predominantly indoors, and your flying track looks more like mine than Nick's with not as long straight shots, constant cornering, etc., I would argue in favor of the US/UK65, replacing the frame immediately because the hydrodipping makes the frame brittle (buy a $3 UR65 frame, or another frame of your choosing). If you're wanting a combo indoor/outdoor flyer, I would say go Mobula 7. One big caveat though is I've personally never felt it's a good idea to try to have something that can do both unless you're literally doing both in the same flights. These things are cheap enough on this class that you can easily buy the one that fits for each type of flying you might be doing. I tried that route with the King Kong ET100, thinking I could fly it indoors and outdoors to replace the whoops when I outgrew it for outdoors. Over the last 9 months, I bought the QX65, the UR 65, and the US65 trying to find the indoor flyer I wanted because the ET100 was too heavy and could cause damage inside the house on crashes, and it sucks flying outdoors compared to my 3" and 5" drones. The batteries have sat in storage charge for it for the last six months in almost that entire time, and the ET100 only gets flown as a basher quad when someone wants to try FPV. IE, you might wind up with something you don't particularly enjoy flying neither indoors nor outdoors and a waste of money.
Different strokes for different folks, but why buy one when you can buy two, or even three? Also, you do realize this was in reference, mainly to a 2S class of whoop? In a previous video, he did say to buy the UR65 which is very similar to the US/UK 65, but came out before it. I bought a UR65 based on Nick's recommendation and have been very happy, but I would also love to have a US65 as well, such an awesome little beast of a machine, so I can totally see why you like yours so much. Happy flying!
Nick guess what!.. When you change the prop direction back to normal yaw washout goes away! Tune doesn't cause it! The new Beta75 Pro 2 flies like a dream once you put prop direction back to normal and I'm betting it does the same for them all! (Mobula7 secret is it comes with direction already normal!)
Just curious why you choose to glue the hoops to repair rather than using some typical Scotch tape. I'm not nearly as experienced as you with this. Tape seems to work for my breaks so far but I suspect you've discovered some significant flaw with tape.
The tape I have tried (mainly back when brushed dominated micros) tended to tear pretty often. The welder/glue stays flexible and bonds well. I found new breaks on the same whoop were rare, the crash survive ability seems to go up.
@@NickBurnsFPV interesting. How do you feel about putting that M7 drive train on a skinny carbon frame with the large skinny 65mm KK props for 2S outdoor cruiser?
It would be interesting to try at the very least. I worry a bit about the motor stem strength. It wasn't that long ago the happymodel motor stems broke very easily in that scenario. Unfounded worry so far. You going to cut a frame? I ask as I am not aware of a frame with the corrector motor mounting. Maybe the flexrc mira.
I ordered a Mobula7 on your recommendation last week from Aliexpress.......I'm glad I waited as I nearly bought the uk65 and was looking at the beta65/75 also but overall for me even after seeing this review I'm still happy with my Mobula7 order can't wait to get and fly it........Thanks Nick for your time going through all these whoops for us in an unbiased manner although you do recommend one in the end but you give all the pros and cons with all so others may prefer one of the others as it may be more beneficial for their flight environment ;).....
You're one of the only reviewers who did this one simple thing... side by side comparison... Betafpv 75X and Mobula7! I already bought the Betafpv 75X because of the XT30, but I'm curious about the Mobula7. That Mobula frame looks flimsy to me though. The 75X has the best looking frame I've seen as far as crash worthy and lightweight. Interesting points here. Many times what you said makes me glad I went through with it!
How do you fly these whoop indoors in ACRO mode? I have no issues flying 3 and 5 inch quads in ACRO mode in tight quarters and racing them on a track through gates. When I switch to the tiny whoops, I can not fly them in ACRO mode. It's almost impossible. I can't figure out what I am doing wrong. What's your secret? I can fly tiny whoops in STAB mode no problem, but in ACRO mode it's just way to twitchy. I have tried reducing my RC rates, but doesn't help all that much. Can you make a video on how you set yours up and tips on how to fly them?
You are a race king in your backyard!!!! I can not wait to fly my Beta65!!!!! Have to work all weekend so i hope i can fly Monday!!!!!! GREAT POST!!!!!. 👍😀👍
I came so close to getting a Beta65X, but Nick said to hold off and wait, and so I ordered the Modula 7 instead. The 65X is just the right size, in my opinion. I already have a UR65 so going with the larger size of the Modula seemed for me to be a good choice and the readily adjustable camera angle sold me on it. Hope you have some great flying, I won't get mine for a few weeks...
Great comparison. We'll see if Mobula7 holds well when everyone starts to crash and we need spare parts. Still waiting my Mobula, hope will last longer as possible.
dont comment alot, but i wanted to thank you for this video. Im a part of a few FPV FB groups that are local and that has made me partial to the Mobula 7 but ultimately i believe the Beta 75x will fit my style the best and this video helped me decide. 75x it is. Thank you!
Thanks so much Nick! Great video, with really good info! I'm glad you were so clear with your recommendation. I was leaning toward the Mobula7 for the same reasons, and I'm glad to hear those features (that I also prioritize) confirmed.
Good to know Nick! Thanks for the comparison video. Just so happens that I already ordered the Mobula 7 a couple of days ago. Due to the reviews you had already posted. But thanks for the piece of mind on that. I will be moding mine at the very least to xt30 and 2s battery’s. Other than that...maybe a splash of paint to make it mine. Can’t help it. I mod every single quad I get.
Great comparison and another great vid. Convinced me to go with the mobula BUT now with the new kid on the block, aka tiny hawk, I'm now stuck not knowing do I go the mobula or the tiny hawk? What are your views and are you planning a comparison?
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks that's what I was leaning towards. Now I know they're quite different but what if I asked mobula 7 vs baby hawk? Would mobula be a better quad top learn more acro on? I'm already flying acro (not very well) on my 65pro inside.
thanks for the review and the honest opinion. I have the urav 65 and its a blast .have ordered the mobular a week ago and cant wait to rip it. Tired of the short flight times
just got back from a woop race and alot of people have problems with 65x, the back left motor dying for no reason. at least 7 people said the same thing, we are working on chasing the problem
What's pissing me off is that the Mobula 7 doesn't come in PNP version. I would buy it immediately. Cuz I don't have a radio from Frsky, Flysky, or DSMX. Any news if a PNP version is ever gonna be released?
Its kind of pnp now. Scroll down and look at the board pin map. bit.ly/2EOmqlJ I haven't tried it, but we should be able to use the RX3 and the 5v and Gnd to add our own receiver. Of course solders two wires to the one 5v and one gnd could be a challenge.
Ok, how about if you put the canopy on the mobula 7 on the beta 65x? Would it fit? Remove the betafpv camera and mount, replace it with mob 7 mount and canopy?
Its hard to compare on that side of things yet, as I have yet to find spare parts listed for the Mobula 7 yet, I do fully expect parts to be available, just no real world proof of this yet.
@nick: I'm reading that as no guarantees on Mobula having readily available spares :) The rate at which we crash/break/burn drone parts, spares should be a feature provided by kwad manufacturers, similar to the other features like flying, hovering, video transmission ;)
The frame is available as the bwhoop75. The rest of the components will come to market as the Mobula7 does. This site lists the parts, I am unsure if they are shipping yet. www.xt-xinte.com/Search-mobula7/list-r1.html
I put a 200mw Happymodel Vtx with EOS2 camera/canopy on my Mobula today, it's really nice. Would anyone know if there's a Uart free on that board to solder a dedicated RX instead of onboard ? I wonder if i can get crossfire to work with it.
good info, Nick. I have a feeling it will be the same pick for me also, especially as the washout is more of an issue for freestyle. Ive tried about everything with the 75X and I just can't get rid of it, sadly. I can see myself wanting to do an XT30 swap and the 2S nanotech batts, just because I enjoy the performance and flight times. Cheers!
There are a few 3d prints to allow the 2s 300mah nanotech on the mobula7 on thingiverse.com robert thompson designed them. I did a quick fit on the batt today, but didn't have time to dry fit to the mobula7.
it took me 2 weeks to look after my first tiny whoop and I saw your video about the mobula7. Looks like this is fun at its best and for a good price! Which battery setup would you suggest? thought of buying 10 pcs 250mah 30/60c for the beginning. best power/weight/flighttime with this setup or is there something better? Thanks nick! great videos sir! preciate it
Hey nick, Im entering whoop nationals in finland and i got several months to prepare so.. rules are 1s 31mm max35g.. my question is what motors and what fc? or is it just the 22kv ones? beta frame, cm257t?.. I would love your view on that..
I need some help please. I bought a mobile7 and im pretty happy with it. but my OSD isn't working. can't see anything in my goggle. anything I can do? in config OSD is enabled. I really don't know what I have to do know. thanks a lot!!
Was waiting for this video NIck! Great Job Man! Question I have for you is should I order a bwhoop frame or a beta75x frame as a spare frame for the Mobula? Will the Beta75x frame work for the Mobula?
I just picked up a used ur65 with plans to get the mobula later. This makes me wish i just got the mobula. Curious though, would the mobula7 swap on to the beta75x frame or are the motor mounts different?
Motors don't natively fit the 75x frame but the original betafpv beta75 pro frame, then mounting the other components become a challenge. See ruclips.net/video/Ld_wfjPzCy0/видео.html
Nice! Glad I ordered the mobula7 :) I saw all your videos for these machines but do the betafpv's work on 1s like the mobula7? And did you test it? I have a friend who just starts with fpv flying and it would be great if he could start practice on 1s. And when he gets better put the second battery in and rip 😎
I have the 75x, 65x and the US65. One big advantage of the US65 is if you have local whoop races they likely don’t allow the 2S whoops to race with the 1S whoops... so buy both :-)
Ok, so I guess you do like the Mobula 7 and especially so on Sundays. But are you sure? LOL While I love BetaFPV, have a couple of them, you had me at *HappyModel* and I am happy a lot with them...just saying. By the way, I got the notice that my *Mobula 7* shipped last night! I am getting that *Banggoody feeling* again! Woot! Unfortunately, now the wait begins... Where's Scotty when you need him to beam it right over?
Nick Burns ~ They gave me a tracking number, but should I be concerned? I did order it right after you told me wait on buying the 75X/65X and you ran your first video of the Mobula 7.
Well, I can understand that and I checked just now and it is still saying, preorder; and if it was another company I might be more doubtful. However, in my experience, BangGood delivers the goods, albeit sometimes slowly, but it does get here, eventually...lol By the way, I was able to get for $88 so that was an added bonus for being a VIP with BG.
Nick Burns ~ According to the latest tracking, it arrived in Belgium and left for the U.S. on the 29th. So it’s getting closer to me...but I will *never* understand how it gets from China to Belgium then to the States...lol
I used nates setting on the beta75x but put my props in. I got rid of my washouts. Alot of people say dont go props in it will be worse. In my case its the best.
Really concise review Nick! Nice job! 😁😎🤘 Going to the link for the BetaFPV75 it shows it for $139.99 and I couldn't find it anywhere for $129.99. Just letting you know.... I bought the Makerfire Armour 67 on a great deal long ago. It runs on 2S, with the Frequent Flyer having great success with it on 3S! I smelled something when I initially tried 3S inside, so I stopped and never went back. It has 1103/10,000kv motors. I'm not sure it's 38mm props, being bull nose, are the best for performane for it. Do you think it would be a worthwhile attempt to clip the 4 blade 40mm props for the Mobula7 and Beta75x, and try those? 🤔 I like that it has its carbon fiber frame... Seems indestructible! 👍 How do you think the Armour67 compares to these in this comparison?
dang, go to all that trouble and the price changed? Face palm. Just a guess on props. I think the new props are going to be more effcient but have less thrust, it might also impact the "grip", might have to pump up p a bit on the tune. I also had the armour 67, they hit me up the other day to review it. Lol, they could have search for their product and found I had done a review. Did you put a canopy on it?
@@NickBurnsFPV... No canopy yet, but since my factory 3d printer camera mount broke, I was thinking about it. It's bately hanging in there! Do you think it flies good when compared to these? Do you have a canopy you'd suggest or like? Thanks Nick! Also: Are you watching the baseball playoffs? Milwaukee's manager announced a starting pitcher before the game, like normal. Then he pitched him for one batter and replaced him with a starter that throws from the other side! Lol Kinda like Tampa Bay would do, but for other reasons. Milwaukee just did it to mess with the Dogdgers (spelling correct! Lol), so they'd stack their lineup to with hitters from the opposite side of the arm of the pitcher. Right handed hitters for a lefty, and vice versa...you know. 😉 Tampa Bay would pitch a 98mph flame thrower for an inning or usually two then put in the long guy, or a starter, so as to shut down the opponent the first two innings and then after they've seen the flame thrower once through the lineup, put in another type of pitcher to give them a completely other look. Pretty smart, actually. They loaded their 25 with pitchers and few bench players. Think about it... Typically, the 2nd or mostly 3rd time through the line up the hitters are getting more used to the starter and get more hits. This way, they don't get used to the flamer, and he's replaced... Then the long guy maybe gets into the 7th or 8th if he's done well, before they get 3 times through. Then they put in either their closer, if they're ahead of course, or another different looking reliever, if behind. Kind of a neat idea! What do you think? How about Milwaukee 's sneaky way? Definitely some gamesmanship going on with that move! Pretty ballsy pulling the starter after just one hitter! Lol😜🙄
I would only be venturing a guess to the flight characteristics on the armor67 as it was so long ago. I believe it to be much more difficult to fly inside, probably due to weight. The mobula 7 is really hard to match.
require at least two mods, motor mounting holes would need to be drilled out and then we have to extend the posts for clearance of the camera and flight controller.
@@NickBurnsFPV Ahh, I see. Thanks for the heads up about using that welders glue. You're dead accurate about those "flimsy frame" rumors. I had been thinking the light frame would be better if I could just figure out a flexible glue to use! Again, you the man! For anyone reading, I actually look at the light frame as a positive: better flight characteristics.
nice comparison! i'm so glad i got my mobula7 on aliexpress for 70$ shortly after release! 😊 you can install an off the shelf receiver on the mobula btw
id have to go with the mobula 7 and possibly put the parts on a betafpv or other more sturdy frame but really for the price of a frame i guess just grab a few but id like to thank you nick for the time and effort and work you put in on this matter of the 2s brushless whoops so to speak you have made the choice for me pretty easy hands down the mobula 7 it would more suit my flying style thanks again Nick
Nick, I love your content but lumping the 65X in with the 75X is a huge oversight in my opinion, also remember that most people are ordering the 75X with an Xt-30 and a 2S battery which you don’t really even address in the comparison. Furthermore in my experience the 65X doesn’t experience the washout issues I’m on stock tune and mine flies great... My Mobula7 is on pre- order so I can t compare it yet myself but again IMO you can’t just lump the 65X and 75X together.
This is just my opinion, opinions are subjective.Your right I didn't compare with xt30, my opinion wouldn't be valid comparing something without experience.
I have build a h8 mini with 8×20mm motors,eachine e010 e012 S9 micro, syma x3 syma x5, syma x8, and smal carbon frames and so on and i have the us65 but never a 2s.. except from my own built qx95, get's a bit chunkier than the whoops. I did not find a spare frame on either bang/gear? Tip?
What's up Nick so this is not really relevant towards this per say but I'm having the worst luck and quite frankly I have no friends that fly fpv. So I figured I'd try asking you. I've been into fpv for about almost a year now I've bought kits motors etc and have failed miserably every time in fact I don't have any flights I'm out of options I have a bunch of parts that are just sitting. I want to fly so bad I wAtch videos everyday and it just makes me more excited to get going. So I guess what I'm saying is do you have any advice I'm pretty much screwed for money .y wife said I have enough yet I still haven't flown.
Unfortunately, without money I don't have a great suggestion. Maybe you will win one in a giveaway that I do every so often. Maybe save up a few dollars, gather up your components, send them to adambomb fpv for a build. Other than buying and RTF that is about the only suggestion I can come up with.
Great video! Very useful Nick . I was doing this comparison by hand reading the specs from the Internet yesterday lol, I watched your flight videos on both 75X and mobulus7 and the mobulus7 really handles great, the 75X even on the flight video looks heavy and sluggish . I really want to buy the mobulus7 now.... but something tells me to wait...mobulus7"pro"?. I pre-ordered the AR FUN 90mm back in the day and it was.. no fun, two months later the AR FUN 95mm PRO came out with all the fix patches to the issues I had it.... I was very disappointed, lesson learned. Come on Mobulus7 pro or V2 HAPPYMODLES MY money is on you lol. Love your channel Nick!
Thank you. I can tell you the next iteration of the mobula 7 is likely more than a month away.Just last night I received a question from happymodel about a change.
no, the UR65 are much more nimble than the mobula7, they are not nearly as fast but you can fly through much much much smaller and more difficult tracks
Ive nearly eliminated prop wash with the betas with a 2 blade prop. Ive used 3 blades and 4 blades and if you want the best handling with the beta for indoors, use 2 blades. If you want it a little more punchy for outside racing run 3s. 4 blades always wash out waaay more, you get the punch but the wash sucks. EVL_FPV
No problem! Also stock batteries are the worst with betas. For some reason I have little to no sag on batteries with the extra cable sticking out. If you take the plastic off the batteries see the then metal that tends to be a power choke point. I exclusively run betas and have tried ever battery and every prop. try flying with the batteries with the little extra cable. I know there weight Nazis out there but so far they have proven to be the best. If your runnin the Beta75 and beta85 makerfire with the extra cable will give you the best performance. I think they make 400s with the extra cable. try them out.
Just in time!! Thanks Nick. The mobula canopy looks so bad 🙄.. In the service department, I think Betafpv have some more points.. I had to deal with there service and they respond and take care of my case in no time. But the washout.... They really need to get this one resolved(frame? )
it's not the frame, I use a 75x frame with a crazybee F3 pro board and it flies fine. i like the mobula7's canopy...i ordered me one to use on something else :P
@@situbes.972 agree. I just order the mobula last week and I'm not sure that my yard will be big enough for 2s.. so having the ability to switch to 1s is great for me.
Thank you for these videos, clear concise information and ultimately getting me into the hobby...I had a question (i am a newbie)..Do you think it is possible to fit a gps module on the mobula7 like someone did on the beta65 (ruclips.net/video/cnYBUvn2Eos/видео.html) ..so as to use features like fly back home,directions to initial location and so on. As a newcomer, this feature would give me a lil bit of peace of mind. Thanks again. Hope the water damage nightmare finally came to an end.
weird thing I got my Mobula7 today and it had a XM+ receiver connected to it?!? It was onto the FC with the buzzer atop it and the antenna sticking out the top. I removed it and changed the receiver type in Betaflight, binded to the xlite and it worked just fine... I guess i got a free XM+ ?!?
HI Nick, GREAT VIDEO, I was wondering what whoop you would going to pick I have seen them all and I know You said that the mobula7 was your favorite but the BETA were getting all the marks I happy you chose the mobula I was ordering it this week, best Batteries haft to be GNB my opinion, Thanks for the Information, JohnnyDRC
tru. I am only aware of one store having them on hand and available. That store is in china with no web ordering and I can't get the store owner to respond to any of my messages :)
Hi Nick, well done. I love how you went thru the pros and cons of each quad. I ordered the Mobula 7 last weekend. The main reason was being able to easily Change the angle of the camera and being able to swap it out. Take care and keep your props up.
I'd argue the US/UK65 has some advantages IF this is important to you compared to the Mobula 7:
1. Cost. The US/UK65 is even cheaper at usually around $70-80. However, do be aware you should immediately buy a UR65 frame or similar because the US/UK65 hydrodipped frames break if you even give them a funny look. Still, that's $3.
2. Parts are also less expensive, in addition to batteries if you compare running 1S against 2S. 2S takes twice the batteries to run.
3. US65/UK65 both have Smart Audio, Mobula 7 doesn't.
4. It's not just about speed limitations when choosing a smaller whoop. It's also about punch outs, too, and flattening your camera angle doesn't alone stop excessive climbs in close quarters. Granted, you could limit your throttle stick in your setup, but if you don't want to do that, a 65mm whoop is a good way to stop from smashing into the ceiling nearly as quickly or fast.
5. Less disturbance of objects from crashing into them. The US/UK65s are out of the gate 6-7g lighter. Add an extra battery for the Mobula 7, and you're at 12g heavier. That may not sound like much, but you're talking a 50% increase in weight. I don't honestly know what qualitative difference that would make in crashes in terms of damage to trinckets and things around the house. My wife has little Disney figurines and stuff all over the place. I do know I can fly full tilt with the US65 into anything she has around the house, and it can't damage anything crashing into it. If you're worried about that, the lighter the whoop, the less likely you may damage stuff like that.
For my house setup, I personally like the US/UK65. It's got the perfect amount of power for me to zoom around the circular fly track through the downstairs, and I love flying stupid fast like a bat out of hell, so ensuring I don't damage anything around my house when I crash a hundred times is an extremely high priority. My couches aren't particularly comfortable to sleep on. :-)
That's a detailed responce and some valid points.......My problem with the uk/us65 which I originally wanted to buy was that my Frsky Taranis x9d se is the EU version so would not work with the uk65 straight out of the box so to speak I went on a few forums to find the answer but all I could find was either I had to change my tx software to international which then meant I would have to change my other 4 quads rx's to international to or I had to bind in D8 which no one really explained what i'd lose going from D16 to D8 (I know channels but how would that effect the quad ?)......So the Mobula7 with its choice of versions including the EU version was why I chose it over the others and with Nicks 3 videos he posted on here has persuaded me for my personal requirements I have made the right choice........But had I have had an international tx I would have bought the UK65 a few weeks ago before the Mobula7 was mentioned and released.
However for the price I bought the Mobula7 for on Aliexpress (assumming it turns up ?) Looking at the side by side comparisons the Mobula7 can be run 1 or 2s whereas the UK65 can't so by changing camera angles I will have more choice for indoor and outdoor flying if I want.........This hobby is a personal preference and everyone will choose quads based on their requirements there's no right or wrong answer and the help others post on forums and RUclips gives everyone else choices so whatever you fly enjoy the hobby :)
Any 70-75mm especially in 2s will perform circles around a 65mm, especially when it's 1s, when outdoors. None of these being discussed however is great outdoors. Definitely the Mobula 7 and Beta 75 are more versatile to do both. I wouldn't say the US/UK 65 is always better indoors. It depends on where indoors you're flying. For tighter quarters, I would argue the US/UK65 is better. Not to promote my channel, but look at my flying path compared to Nick's. ruclips.net/video/m_gW7Y7rV-Q/видео.html If you're flying predominantly indoors, and your flying track looks more like mine than Nick's with not as long straight shots, constant cornering, etc., I would argue in favor of the US/UK65, replacing the frame immediately because the hydrodipping makes the frame brittle (buy a $3 UR65 frame, or another frame of your choosing). If you're wanting a combo indoor/outdoor flyer, I would say go Mobula 7. One big caveat though is I've personally never felt it's a good idea to try to have something that can do both unless you're literally doing both in the same flights. These things are cheap enough on this class that you can easily buy the one that fits for each type of flying you might be doing. I tried that route with the King Kong ET100, thinking I could fly it indoors and outdoors to replace the whoops when I outgrew it for outdoors. Over the last 9 months, I bought the QX65, the UR 65, and the US65 trying to find the indoor flyer I wanted because the ET100 was too heavy and could cause damage inside the house on crashes, and it sucks flying outdoors compared to my 3" and 5" drones. The batteries have sat in storage charge for it for the last six months in almost that entire time, and the ET100 only gets flown as a basher quad when someone wants to try FPV. IE, you might wind up with something you don't particularly enjoy flying neither indoors nor outdoors and a waste of money.
Different strokes for different folks, but why buy one when you can buy two, or even three? Also, you do realize this was in reference, mainly to a 2S class of whoop? In a previous video, he did say to buy the UR65 which is very similar to the US/UK 65, but came out before it. I bought a UR65 based on Nick's recommendation and have been very happy, but I would also love to have a US65 as well, such an awesome little beast of a machine, so I can totally see why you like yours so much. Happy flying!
HeroPsycho dude did you forget your Meds?
@@gorace71 did you forget to make any point whatsoever?
Nick guess what!.. When you change the prop direction back to normal yaw washout goes away! Tune doesn't cause it! The new Beta75 Pro 2 flies like a dream once you put prop direction back to normal and I'm betting it does the same for them all! (Mobula7 secret is it comes with direction already normal!)
Just curious why you choose to glue the hoops to repair rather than using some typical Scotch tape. I'm not nearly as experienced as you with this. Tape seems to work for my breaks so far but I suspect you've discovered some significant flaw with tape.
The tape I have tried (mainly back when brushed dominated micros) tended to tear pretty often. The welder/glue stays flexible and bonds well. I found new breaks on the same whoop were rare, the crash survive ability seems to go up.
@@NickBurnsFPV interesting. How do you feel about putting that M7 drive train on a skinny carbon frame with the large skinny 65mm KK props for 2S outdoor cruiser?
It would be interesting to try at the very least. I worry a bit about the motor stem strength. It wasn't that long ago the happymodel motor stems broke very easily in that scenario. Unfounded worry so far. You going to cut a frame? I ask as I am not aware of a frame with the corrector motor mounting. Maybe the flexrc mira.
I ordered a Mobula7 on your recommendation last week from Aliexpress.......I'm glad I waited as I nearly bought the uk65 and was looking at the beta65/75 also but overall for me even after seeing this review I'm still happy with my Mobula7 order can't wait to get and fly it........Thanks Nick for your time going through all these whoops for us in an unbiased manner although you do recommend one in the end but you give all the pros and cons with all so others may prefer one of the others as it may be more beneficial for their flight environment ;).....
Thanks, enjoy the Mob7
Thanks Nick, I was just waiting for this comparison to choose one of them, Great job!!!
Thank you
You're one of the only reviewers who did this one simple thing... side by side comparison... Betafpv 75X and Mobula7! I already bought the Betafpv 75X because of the XT30, but I'm curious about the Mobula7. That Mobula frame looks flimsy to me though. The 75X has the best looking frame I've seen as far as crash worthy and lightweight. Interesting points here. Many times what you said makes me glad I went through with it!
We can put an xt30 on the mobula, but we will need a 3d print for the battery there are a number of them on thingiverse.com now.
Those prices for the betafpv are for the pnp the bnf prices are 139.99 for the 75x and 129.99 for the 65x
I just pre-ordered the Mobula from Banggood a few days ago! Excellent videos👍🏼
How do you fly these whoop indoors in ACRO mode? I have no issues flying 3 and 5 inch quads in ACRO mode in tight quarters and racing them on a track through gates. When I switch to the tiny whoops, I can not fly them in ACRO mode. It's almost impossible. I can't figure out what I am doing wrong. What's your secret? I can fly tiny whoops in STAB mode no problem, but in ACRO mode it's just way to twitchy. I have tried reducing my RC rates, but doesn't help all that much. Can you make a video on how you set yours up and tips on how to fly them?
It's called practice.
You are a race king in your backyard!!!! I can not wait to fly my Beta65!!!!! Have to work all weekend so i hope i can fly Monday!!!!!!
GREAT POST!!!!!.
👍😀👍
I came so close to getting a Beta65X, but Nick said to hold off and wait, and so I ordered the Modula 7 instead. The 65X is just the right size, in my opinion. I already have a UR65 so going with the larger size of the Modula seemed for me to be a good choice and the readily adjustable camera angle sold me on it. Hope you have some great flying, I won't get mine for a few weeks...
Nick Burns, I just received my Mobula7 and it does have SmartAudio. Camera is decent but not so good in low light. Very fun to fly 1S and 2S.
very few cameras are good in low light especially those less than 5grams. Have fun with the Mob7 !
Great comparison. We'll see if Mobula7 holds well when everyone starts to crash and we need spare parts.
Still waiting my Mobula, hope will last longer as possible.
Awesome Nick, your opinion is well regarded, I really do appreciate this video.
dont comment alot, but i wanted to thank you for this video. Im a part of a few FPV FB groups that are local and that has made me partial to the Mobula 7 but ultimately i believe the Beta 75x will fit my style the best and this video helped me decide. 75x it is. Thank you!
Great comparison. Helped me make up my own mind and I got the mobula7
Thanks so much Nick! Great video, with really good info! I'm glad you were so clear with your recommendation. I was leaning toward the Mobula7 for the same reasons, and I'm glad to hear those features (that I also prioritize) confirmed.
Good to know Nick! Thanks for the comparison video. Just so happens that I already ordered the Mobula 7 a couple of days ago. Due to the reviews you had already posted. But thanks for the piece of mind on that. I will be moding mine at the very least to xt30 and 2s battery’s. Other than that...maybe a splash of paint to make it mine. Can’t help it. I mod every single quad I get.
Great comparison and another great vid. Convinced me to go with the mobula BUT now with the new kid on the block, aka tiny hawk, I'm now stuck not knowing do I go the mobula or the tiny hawk? What are your views and are you planning a comparison?
I have a brief brushless comparison on the way. I still favor the mobula 7.
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks that's what I was leaning towards. Now I know they're quite different but what if I asked mobula 7 vs baby hawk? Would mobula be a better quad top learn more acro on? I'm already flying acro (not very well) on my 65pro inside.
just posted.
thanks for the review and the honest opinion. I have the urav 65 and its a blast .have ordered the mobular a week ago and cant wait to rip it. Tired of the short flight times
longer flights on a super light setup is a big benefit for many.
Cheers Nick. Just got my UK65. Might have to order a Mobula :)
just got back from a woop race and alot of people have problems with 65x, the back left motor dying for no reason. at least 7 people said the same thing, we are working on chasing the problem
interesting.
What's pissing me off is that the Mobula 7 doesn't come in PNP version. I would buy it immediately. Cuz I don't have a radio from Frsky, Flysky, or DSMX.
Any news if a PNP version is ever gonna be released?
Its kind of pnp now. Scroll down and look at the board pin map. bit.ly/2EOmqlJ
I haven't tried it, but we should be able to use the RX3 and the 5v and Gnd to add our own receiver. Of course solders two wires to the one 5v and one gnd could be a challenge.
Ok, how about if you put the canopy on the mobula 7 on the beta 65x? Would it fit? Remove the betafpv camera and mount, replace it with mob 7 mount and canopy?
While I don't have all these anymore the same size of "whoop" should have interchangeable canopies.
between The BetaFPV and Mobilus which one has better service and availability of spare parts?
Its hard to compare on that side of things yet, as I have yet to find spare parts listed for the Mobula 7 yet, I do fully expect parts to be available, just no real world proof of this yet.
All the spare parts are listed @ xt-xinte
Is there a link for that?
@nick: I'm reading that as no guarantees on Mobula having readily available spares :) The rate at which we crash/break/burn drone parts, spares should be a feature provided by kwad manufacturers, similar to the other features like flying, hovering, video transmission ;)
The frame is available as the bwhoop75. The rest of the components will come to market as the Mobula7 does. This site lists the parts, I am unsure if they are shipping yet. www.xt-xinte.com/Search-mobula7/list-r1.html
Perfect timing, I asked me just today which of these I should buy, plus the 1S UR65.
But 2S is the way to go!
I put a 200mw Happymodel Vtx with EOS2 camera/canopy on my Mobula today, it's really nice.
Would anyone know if there's a Uart free on that board to solder a dedicated RX instead of onboard ? I wonder if i can get crossfire to work with it.
Now THAT is a comparison video I can easily digest.
good info, Nick. I have a feeling it will be the same pick for me also, especially as the washout is more of an issue for freestyle. Ive tried about everything with the 75X and I just can't get rid of it, sadly. I can see myself wanting to do an XT30 swap and the 2S nanotech batts, just because I enjoy the performance and flight times. Cheers!
There are a few 3d prints to allow the 2s 300mah nanotech on the mobula7 on thingiverse.com robert thompson designed them. I did a quick fit on the batt today, but didn't have time to dry fit to the mobula7.
Great video Nick btw have you ever tried to swap out all guts out of the Mobula 7 placed it in a beta 75x frame???
No, motor mounting is more work than I would pursue
it took me 2 weeks to look after my first tiny whoop and I saw your video about the mobula7. Looks like this is fun at its best and for a good price! Which battery setup would you suggest? thought of buying 10 pcs 250mah 30/60c for the beginning. best power/weight/flighttime with this setup or is there something better? Thanks nick! great videos sir! preciate it
Unless we have a mod or a new 3d print to use, we will likely have to stick with 2 1s batteries.
Lost model buzzer as well i think? On mobula7?
yes, please see my original review for the full details of year quad.
Just to note on Mobula7: you can control osd via smartaudio OR wire an external rx if you prefer...
tru
Good review Nick! If the frame of M7 is easy to break are the beta 75x frame is suitable as spare? Thank you!
This video covers that topic ruclips.net/video/Ld_wfjPzCy0/видео.html
Great review. Nick!
Between Beta65x, Beebee66, and Uk65, which one much more stable, smooth and easy to fly/control? (indoor flyer)
Thanks Nick!
us/uk65. But that frame breaks more easily than the ur65.
@@NickBurnsFPV Now I know what I am looking for.. It is cheap too..
Thanks again Nick..
Hey nick, Im entering whoop nationals in finland and i got several months to prepare so.. rules are 1s 31mm max35g.. my question is what motors and what fc? or is it just the 22kv ones? beta frame, cm257t?.. I would love your view on that..
I presume brushed?
yes i forgot to mention brushed or brushless is good. and i got light weight 617 25k but i want that brushless power.
I need some help please. I bought a mobile7 and im pretty happy with it. but my OSD isn't working. can't see anything in my goggle. anything I can do? in config OSD is enabled. I really don't know what I have to do know. thanks a lot!!
What can you say about the Rakonheli 76 compared to the Beta 75x and mobula 7?
The rakonheli76 and beta 75x fly similarly. I enjoy the 76 more inside due to the high camera angle on the 75x. The mobula 7 flies better than both.
Should I get the mobula or the beta 65x. My house is about the size of nicks maybe a little smaller, and this will be my first whoop!
Mobula 7, but I don't think your asking me :)
Hi Nick, how does the mobula7 compare to the tinyhawk or trashcan?
I prefer the mobula7 all around.
Was waiting for this video NIck! Great Job Man! Question I have for you is should I order a bwhoop frame or a beta75x frame as a spare frame for the Mobula? Will the Beta75x frame work for the Mobula?
In this video ruclips.net/video/Ld_wfjPzCy0/видео.html I discuss the betafpv 75x frame an swapping components.
Would the mobula 7 be ok for in a house as long as I go 1s? Really looking for the best indoor/backyard setup
1s indoor is still fun too. Likely more appropriate for smaller spaces or learning. Then 2s to let it loose outside.
I just picked up a used ur65 with plans to get the mobula later. This makes me wish i just got the mobula.
Curious though, would the mobula7 swap on to the beta75x frame or are the motor mounts different?
Motors don't natively fit the 75x frame but the original betafpv beta75 pro frame, then mounting the other components become a challenge. See ruclips.net/video/Ld_wfjPzCy0/видео.html
Nice! Glad I ordered the mobula7 :)
I saw all your videos for these machines but do the betafpv's work on 1s like the mobula7? And did you test it? I have a friend who just starts with fpv flying and it would be great if he could start practice on 1s. And when he gets better put the second battery in and rip 😎
I did not test the betafpv products on 1s. In the moment I am not sure the betafpv products can run 1s.
Why are the motors on the 75x and 65x spinning the opposite way that they should be?
The motor rotation and props can be setup either way. We only need to tell the flight controller/betaflight which direction the props are spinning.
mobula7 looks to have better FPV antenna orientation. another bonus. also mobula listed at 26g, betafpv 75 says its 41g. (is that right?)
I can't say without watching the video/s (not with them), but it does sound right. I recall there being a 14gram difference. SUBSTANTIAL in micros.
so what you're say'n is.... you prefer which one?
to funny.
Do u have a link to the guy that sels the battery holders? 👍
look up thump2010 on thingiverse.com. All his prints are there.
@@NickBurnsFPV thank u!☺
@@NickBurnsFPV i dont have a 3D printer.. where can i buy them ? Can i contact him.
@@turji I would see if your local library has a printer, they often do. Also maybe contact brain3d.co to see if they would print it for you.
I ordered a Mobula 7 and UR65!! I love whoop!!
I have the 75x, 65x and the US65. One big advantage of the US65 is if you have local whoop races they likely don’t allow the 2S whoops to race with the 1S whoops... so buy both :-)
true
Ok, so I guess you do like the Mobula 7 and especially so on Sundays. But are you sure? LOL
While I love BetaFPV, have a couple of them, you had me at *HappyModel* and I am happy a lot with them...just saying.
By the way, I got the notice that my *Mobula 7* shipped last night! I am getting that *Banggoody feeling* again! Woot!
Unfortunately, now the wait begins... Where's Scotty when you need him to beam it right over?
no teleporting yet. Interesting yours has shipped while it still shows preorder on the page.
Nick Burns ~ They gave me a tracking number, but should I be concerned? I did order it right after you told me wait on buying the 75X/65X and you ran your first video of the Mobula 7.
Nah, I am curious. I suspect they did ship it, but it would be the first I have heard of shipping from BG.
Well, I can understand that and I checked just now and it is still saying, preorder; and if it was another company I might be more doubtful. However, in my experience, BangGood delivers the goods, albeit sometimes slowly, but it does get here, eventually...lol By the way, I was able to get for $88 so that was an added bonus for being a VIP with BG.
Nick Burns ~ According to the latest tracking, it arrived in Belgium and left for the U.S. on the 29th. So it’s getting closer to me...but I will *never* understand how it gets from China to Belgium then to the States...lol
... and twice on sunday... classic.
great quick & dirty, as always. thanks nick!
lol, that's about as definitive as I can be :)
Oh well, just ordered the US65. 3 batts, 6 port charger, $75. I couldn't turn it down.
I used nates setting on the beta75x but put my props in. I got rid of my washouts. Alot of people say dont go props in it will be worse. In my case its the best.
Doesn't that result in arm dropping on fast turns?
@@NickBurnsFPV not for me. Im a freestyle pilot. Although i tried doing some yaw turns, tight turns... and nutta! No issues.
Power and flight time which one has more?
Check the original review videos. Links in the video description
Sweet video, wanting a quality 1to2s whoop
sir nick i have a question in betafpv 65x is it possible to used 19,500KV for 1s to this 65x? coz i buy wrong motors.
I don't believe so. This has the two board flight stack, I don't believe the esc will activate with 1s.
ah thanks for help sir :) not possible...
I have just not had the best of luck with brushless motors running bushings, the 1103 with the bearings is a clear winner to me, 75x will be my pick
oh yea the early versions didn't last a long time.
Really concise review Nick! Nice job! 😁😎🤘 Going to the link for the BetaFPV75 it shows it for $139.99 and I couldn't find it anywhere for $129.99. Just letting you know....
I bought the Makerfire Armour 67 on a great deal long ago. It runs on 2S, with the Frequent Flyer having great success with it on 3S! I smelled something when I initially tried 3S inside, so I stopped and never went back.
It has 1103/10,000kv motors. I'm not sure it's 38mm props, being bull nose, are the best for performane for it.
Do you think it would be a worthwhile attempt to clip the 4 blade 40mm props for the Mobula7 and Beta75x, and try those? 🤔
I like that it has its carbon fiber frame... Seems indestructible! 👍
How do you think the Armour67 compares to these in this comparison?
dang, go to all that trouble and the price changed? Face palm.
Just a guess on props. I think the new props are going to be more effcient but have less thrust, it might also impact the "grip", might have to pump up p a bit on the tune. I also had the armour 67, they hit me up the other day to review it. Lol, they could have search for their product and found I had done a review. Did you put a canopy on it?
@@NickBurnsFPV... No canopy yet, but since my factory 3d printer camera mount broke, I was thinking about it. It's bately hanging in there!
Do you think it flies good when compared to these?
Do you have a canopy you'd suggest or like?
Thanks Nick!
Also:
Are you watching the baseball playoffs?
Milwaukee's manager announced a starting pitcher before the game, like normal. Then he pitched him for one batter and replaced him with a starter that throws from the other side! Lol Kinda like Tampa Bay would do, but for other reasons. Milwaukee just did it to mess with the Dogdgers (spelling correct! Lol), so they'd stack their lineup to with hitters from the opposite side of the arm of the pitcher. Right handed hitters for a lefty, and vice versa...you know. 😉
Tampa Bay would pitch a 98mph flame thrower for an inning or usually two then put in the long guy, or a starter, so as to shut down the opponent the first two innings and then after they've seen the flame thrower once through the lineup, put in another type of pitcher to give them a completely other look. Pretty smart, actually. They loaded their 25 with pitchers and few bench players.
Think about it... Typically, the 2nd or mostly 3rd time through the line up the hitters are getting more used to the starter and get more hits. This way, they don't get used to the flamer, and he's replaced... Then the long guy maybe gets into the 7th or 8th if he's done well, before they get 3 times through. Then they put in either their closer, if they're ahead of course, or another different looking reliever, if behind. Kind of a neat idea! What do you think?
How about Milwaukee 's sneaky way? Definitely some gamesmanship going on with that move! Pretty ballsy pulling the starter after just one hitter! Lol😜🙄
I would only be venturing a guess to the flight characteristics on the armor67 as it was so long ago. I believe it to be much more difficult to fly inside, probably due to weight. The mobula 7 is really hard to match.
Yeah, I thought it looked pretty awesome! You flew out indoors like nothing I've ever seen you fly before!
Any more durable mobula 7 frames?? EDIT Sorry! just saw your next vid! awesome man!
Upgrades that would work? Can i just use a 75x frame?
require at least two mods, motor mounting holes would need to be drilled out and then we have to extend the posts for clearance of the camera and flight controller.
@@NickBurnsFPV Ahh, I see. Thanks for the heads up about using that welders glue. You're dead accurate about those "flimsy frame" rumors. I had been thinking the light frame would be better if I could just figure out a flexible glue to use! Again, you the man! For anyone reading, I actually look at the light frame as a positive: better flight characteristics.
i thought the mobula7 dus have smart audio but its only 25mw
I believe the flysky and dmsx versions don't have the capability to use smart audio due to external receivers.
Do you know if I can put brushless motors on the stock beta 75s flight controller
No the flight controller doesn't support brushless motors.
nice comparison! i'm so glad i got my mobula7 on aliexpress for 70$ shortly after release! 😊
you can install an off the shelf receiver on the mobula btw
Some people say the price changed to 90 right after they clicked buy, so I would recheck my order
I ordered mine from Aliexpress last weekend and paid $77.00 out the door. Also I just checked the price and it is between $90 & $ 95.
@@FAQUERETERMAX nah, everything okay. it shipped out a few days ago
id have to go with the mobula 7 and possibly put the parts on a betafpv or other more sturdy frame but really for the price of a frame i guess just grab a few but id like to thank you nick for the time and effort and work you put in on this matter of the 2s brushless whoops so to speak you have made the choice for me pretty easy hands down the mobula 7 it would more suit my flying style thanks again Nick
Nice review Nick, but I don't agree the M7 camera beats the Beta camera. Their mount definitely beats it though 😊
Okay, Its just my opinion the cameras are very comparable.
Good video Nick!!! Really helpful!!!
Nick, I love your content but lumping the 65X in with the 75X is a huge oversight in my opinion, also remember that most people are ordering the 75X with an Xt-30 and a 2S battery which you don’t really even address in the comparison. Furthermore in my experience the 65X doesn’t experience the washout issues I’m on stock tune and mine flies great... My Mobula7 is on pre- order so I can t compare it yet myself but again IMO you can’t just lump the 65X and 75X together.
This is just my opinion, opinions are subjective.Your right I didn't compare with xt30, my opinion wouldn't be valid comparing something without experience.
Very true, I'm excited to try the Mobula7, the original crazybee is till my favorite 1S brushless whoop FC.
exciting times we have. They are predicting a nasty winter here. I suspect I for one will be doing more than normal indoor flight.
Im still faster with 1S brushless for indoor racing. I cant get as many laps with the 65X.
I got one yesterday on your comparison. Hope it's good
Did you get a spare frame? Its fun and the key to the fun is partly in the lightweight frame.
I have build a h8 mini with 8×20mm motors,eachine e010 e012 S9 micro, syma x3 syma x5, syma x8, and smal carbon frames and so on and i have the us65 but never a 2s.. except from my own built qx95, get's a bit chunkier than the whoops. I did not find a spare frame on either bang/gear? Tip?
Thanks for the info in the vid (frame swap)
prices are up by $10 on both the Beta whoops
What's up Nick so this is not really relevant towards this per say but I'm having the worst luck and quite frankly I have no friends that fly fpv. So I figured I'd try asking you. I've been into fpv for about almost a year now I've bought kits motors etc and have failed miserably every time in fact I don't have any flights I'm out of options I have a bunch of parts that are just sitting. I want to fly so bad I wAtch videos everyday and it just makes me more excited to get going. So I guess what I'm saying is do you have any advice I'm pretty much screwed for money .y wife said I have enough yet I still haven't flown.
Unfortunately, without money I don't have a great suggestion. Maybe you will win one in a giveaway that I do every so often. Maybe save up a few dollars, gather up your components, send them to adambomb fpv for a build. Other than buying and RTF that is about the only suggestion I can come up with.
Thanks for the reply usually don't even hear back
Great video! Very useful Nick . I was doing this comparison by hand reading the specs from the Internet yesterday lol, I watched your flight videos on both 75X and mobulus7 and the mobulus7 really handles great, the 75X even on the flight video looks heavy and sluggish . I really want to buy the mobulus7 now.... but something tells me to wait...mobulus7"pro"?. I pre-ordered the AR FUN 90mm back in the day and it was.. no fun, two months later the AR FUN 95mm PRO came out with all the fix patches to the issues I had it.... I was very disappointed, lesson learned. Come on Mobulus7 pro or V2 HAPPYMODLES MY money is on you lol. Love your channel Nick!
Thank you. I can tell you the next iteration of the mobula 7 is likely more than a month away.Just last night I received a question from happymodel about a change.
no, the UR65 are much more nimble than the mobula7, they are not nearly as fast but you can fly through much much much smaller and more difficult tracks
Great stuff thanks Nick got a lot to think on for my next whoop purchase 😁
Ive nearly eliminated prop wash with the betas with a 2 blade prop. Ive used 3 blades and 4 blades and if you want the best handling with the beta for indoors, use 2 blades. If you want it a little more punchy for outside racing run 3s. 4 blades always wash out waaay more, you get the punch but the wash sucks. EVL_FPV
Thanks for the information. That is good stuff to know.
No problem! Also stock batteries are the worst with betas. For some reason I have little to no sag on batteries with the extra cable sticking out. If you take the plastic off the batteries see the then metal that tends to be a power choke point. I exclusively run betas and have tried ever battery and every prop. try flying with the batteries with the little extra cable. I know there weight Nazis out there but so far they have proven to be the best. If your runnin the Beta75 and beta85 makerfire with the extra cable will give you the best performance. I think they make 400s with the extra cable. try them out.
Jumperx68s review?
Don't think I had that one.
Dammit! I've been perfectly happy with my 65mm brushless whoops and now I have to get the mobula7...
ha, its a constant in the hobby.
which 2s battery fits?
Depends which one? In this video only the 75x fits any 2s batteries. The others are running 2 1s batteries.
Nick Burns u mentioned a nano tech 260mah 2s fits the mobula7, is that correct?
I ordered the mobula7 but I'm looking forward to a F4 board, to make gps rescue possible ;)
Seems like a great thing, this tiny, and with gps :D
gps on it? Going to long range whoop?
@@NickBurnsFPV
Not really, simply the idea of having it thrills me, so light and tiny, and then it can go back home by its own :P
can u install beta75x frame on the mobula 7
not really, the canopy won't fit at this frame. maybe if you mod your frame a little bit
To visually get a look the second mobula 7 would answer these questions.
Just in time!! Thanks Nick.
The mobula canopy looks so bad 🙄..
In the service department, I think Betafpv have some more points.. I had to deal with there service and they respond and take care of my case in no time.
But the washout.... They really need to get this one resolved(frame? )
I also had good experience with BetaFPV’s support.
it's not the frame, I use a 75x frame with a crazybee F3 pro board and it flies fine. i like the mobula7's canopy...i ordered me one to use on something else :P
Mobula needs some aftermarket support - a more durable frame. But, being able to do either 1s or 2s is a huge plus.
@@situbes.972 agree. I just order the mobula last week and I'm not sure that my yard will be big enough for 2s.. so having the ability to switch to 1s is great for me.
I think I’ll have the UR65. Cheaper and 1s which is fine for me.
Its good too.
The reason for a 1s in my case for whoop races a 1s is the limit. No 2s allowed.
1s compatibility+camera adjust from mobula7>every other 1s quads
tru
Thank you for these videos, clear concise information and ultimately getting me into the hobby...I had a question (i am a newbie)..Do you think it is possible to fit a gps module on the mobula7 like someone did on the beta65 (ruclips.net/video/cnYBUvn2Eos/видео.html) ..so as to use features like fly back home,directions to initial location and so on. As a newcomer, this feature would give me a lil bit of peace of mind. Thanks again. Hope the water damage nightmare finally came to an end.
I would think the mobula 7 would be able to do that too, we would need to be mindful of the additional weight.
Can't wait the next Mobula 6.. & we can see the big picture.. which is the best.. 😃
You sir are a bad influence... Ordered my mobula7 today! 😄
lol. sorry?
weird thing I got my Mobula7 today and it had a XM+ receiver connected to it?!? It was onto the FC with the buzzer atop it and the antenna sticking out the top. I removed it and changed the receiver type in Betaflight, binded to the xlite and it worked just fine... I guess i got a free XM+ ?!?
that is very weird....and if the xm+ works...awesome.
Not sure if anyone is interested but i created a 450mha battery mount than just clicks onto the bottom of the frame. www.thingiverse.com/thing:3172530
Bought one finally now waiting game
I was that commenter.
Put that small canopy on the Beta75 and get back to me
Totally agree...loving my Mob7...and I have the flysky version so I can change VTX channels. :)
Its going to be hard to beat. flysky and change VTX? All versions should have smart audio for the band/channel changing. Am I missing something.
Nick Burns supposedly only the frsky version has smart audio. Dsm and flysky are out of luck I think
Flysky is the one with SA...
...modded mine with a 2s 500mah and I get 5.5 minute flights!! Crazy!!
My SA working normally with frsky. Where did this info that only certain versions have SA come from?
HI Nick, GREAT VIDEO, I was wondering what whoop you would going to pick I have seen them all and I know You said that the mobula7 was your favorite but the BETA were getting all the marks
I happy you chose the mobula I was ordering it this week, best Batteries haft to be GNB my opinion, Thanks for the Information, JohnnyDRC
By simply switching the mobula7 to the beta75 pro frame should fix quite a few of the tics against it
Great comparison, Nick! Thanks a lot! 😊
Hi nick, good review, me I think as you, it's why I buy Mobula7. 😉
But the mobula pro is coming out. ... :)
sure one day. They are still working on a frame.
Thanks Nick.
I recall in your Mobula 7 video that it has Smart Audio vtx. The only con is that its only 25mw.
It can be a consideration, when we consider that we also need to consider the 200mw power consumption.
"I know sometimes I am a little bit vague about which I recommend"
*Thinks back to the SkyStars x120 video...*
killin' me
@@NickBurnsFPV Hey, man...that video was incredibly convincing. Pretty sure your review singlehandedly was responsible for them selling out.
Like the channel! Very helpful.
Thanks Nick!
Thnx Nick great review👍👍👍
Only problem now is that nobody has then in stock yet. 😁
tru. I am only aware of one store having them on hand and available. That store is in china with no web ordering and I can't get the store owner to respond to any of my messages :)
Perfect timing!