Custom Supra Intake Manifold Assembly
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Our new billet intake manifold!
We were using a 3D printed aluminum intake manifold that cracked due to a Nitrous backfire.
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ABOUT PAPADAKIS RACING:
The Papadakis Racing team began drifting in 2004 and is the most winning team in Formula Drift history, earning the 2015 title with driver Fredric Aasbo, as well as backto back championship titles with driver Tanner Foust in 2007 and 2008. The Rockstar Energy Drink / Nexen Tire Toyota Corolla Hatchback is the latest competition build from the Hawthorne, California, based team.
Team owner Stephan Papadakis is a legend of sport compact racing who began building his reputation in the 1990s with the first front-wheel drive, tube-chassis drag car in the U.S. The team earned multiple records and championships in the discipline, turning in elapsed times and trap speeds previously thought unattainable in front-drive drag cars. Papadakis' successes in front-wheel drive were matched by his efforts in rear-wheel drive when he campaigned a Honda Civic that became just the fifth car to join the NHRA's Sport Compact 200 MPH club
This guy needs our respect. He mounted the entire assembly on the supra, then realized that he hadn’t said goodbye to his audience properly, removed all that stuff and put them on a table just to thank them for watching.
Always. I just wish Steph had special funding just to come up with more YT content! It’s easily one of my top 3 automotive/fabbing channels, but since Steph is so busy and this isn’t a source of income for his operation it doesn’t pay for him to put out much content. It sure makes the content he DOES put up YT GOLD!
Did you know you can edit videos?
@@OTechnology Did you know you can have a sense of humor?
@@TheXeago i genuinely thought you and the others giving a thumbs up were serious lol
@@OTechnology Well that's Poe's law i guess
Hey id love to see more of what goes into designing and making a part like this! Super cool. Thanks for sharing.
I second this
good coffee, solidworks and flow simulation 😉
There was definitely an earlier video where they prototype it and then mill the billet!
CNC Machine
@@motion2597 CNC mill
Jeez! Your level of perfection, and skill never ceases to amaze me.
This dude is the driving force behind perfection! Keep it up!
It is really satisfying watching something get made by a very knowledgeable perfectionist with a budget that matches the perfectionism.
FINALLY!!!
wait a minute...
6 MINUTES!? ahh... that's fine I guess...
They really gotta fix their upload schedule
Finally they made a new video
@@lloyd9435 with papadakis RUclips is almost last thing he worries about he has to manage a team build and repair the cars
What was that about?
@@2005-q6h He can also have a dedicated videography and editing team to do it. There are plenty out there willing to work for free because they love what they're doing and then get paid by youtube later. It's all about the strategy.
Love the velocity radius plate for capturing the plenum plate bolts, really great idea!
thats one of those ideas only vast experience would deliver
love this channel so much! tons of knowledge and straight to the point. can you make a video someday on matching up turbo sizes to engine sizes?
Go to Stavtech youtube/facebook page and watch/read up. Engine size is a small part of deciding what turbo to use.
I allready put a like since i know the video is going to be awsome
Haha! Same here man!
I love every single one of these videos and eagerly await each new one. Which is funny, because I have utterly zero interest in drifting (no offense to anyone, it's just not my thing, sorry) and as a motorcyclist, only a slight interest in cars. These vids and the calm, cool, explanation of the intricacies involved by this professional, keep me totally absorbed and amazed!
I would love to know the cost difference in the 3D printed metal/welded version, and the machined/bolted version. @papadakisracing care to share?
+1 for cost delta. Also, was there an issue with the 3D part? Machining 4 parts has got to have more labor in the design process than the additive engineering design of the original 3D printed intake
@@rscottalex The 3D SLS printed intake blew apart (source: Social Media)
Yes me too. I know the 3d printed blow because nitro backfire. But I like to compare the 3d and machined both same dessing/model/thickness...
Which it strongest?
I'm guessing the 3D printed version didn't meet the standards??
Yeah i need to know
The 3d printed one split during FD and it cost aasbo alot of points
It's in the video description, backfire caused it to crack.
Damn, kts been a while, Welcome back
Grüße an Subi Performance. Das dein Traum von 5 Achsen wahr wird.
I still can’t believe that we are getting “ALL” this information for “FREE” !!!! Love you bro! Your a Gee!!!
Too bad the 3D printed one cracked. I understand why the billet is superior for lonjecitivy, but the 3D one had its place where you needed a part that didnt exist ASAP. The billiet one must of took a lot of 3D work and testing before it was sent to CNC machining.
Source: Mechanical Designer and I design things for a living
how about air distribution? Because this straight 90degree throttle to intake doesn't look very distributing. I mean like, what about cylinder 1? Most engines tend to blow up due to last cylinder from throttle body getting the most air and leaning out the air fuel ratio. I would love some explaination about distribution designing.
The attention to detail and being able to watch him explain it all as he is working is just amazing! Great job mate love it!
Thumbs up,professor stephan papadakis..👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
How much boost (psi) are these manifolds rated to handle? Very nice job, and I love your videos.
I presume I have got OCD, cause this build make me calm and comfortable :) Grate job!
Is the Supra gonna get the new revised B58 head with 6 exhaust ports, or will the 2-port be kept?
Pretty sure they're keeping the 2 port since they've already got a few built 2 port B58s for it in case they blow one of them. He may use one of the 6 port if he does.
@@carboydorifutoparty3976 might as well go to it, since BMW clearly admitted the 2-port design being "more than you'll need" wasn't exactly correct when they made the S58 and then suddenly the B58 needing an update too
Why isn't the base plate welded on the runners assembly ?
Incredible knowledge and engineering. I love your videos and the way you explain things for normal people to understand
Why did y’all change from the 3D printed manifold from ~ a year ago? Did something in the design process for that one go wrong or not allow for the flexibility of this new version? Would love to hear/learn more about that!
Didnt it break at fd? Some crack i think
The 3d printer one cracked in half, they only used it because of time constraints
The 3D Printed version blew up at Formula Drift.
variable plenum size is such a cool feature. You guys are so innovative and its super cool that you are willing to share this kind of stuff!
Drinking game: Take a shot every time he says plenum.
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I know you can do it
anyone can do to it. Not everyone can afford it.
@@vipecrx Mr Papadakis can certainly afford it
@@savagetuner2404 That's not how you run a business.
@@vipecrx enlighten us, successful shopowner, businessman, and keyboard warrior
@@savagetuner2404 yes. Raceshops make their business by building for themselves instead of paying customers.
What happened with the 3d printed manifold. I thought that was a really cool setup, and was wondering about the reliability.
it unprinted itself halfway through a competition day.
Love, love, love, this channel. 🤓 So much great content.
I love your videos! It’s very informative and goes to the basics so even noobs can understand what’s going on. Thanks :)
Funny, I actually cut and glued an O-ring for a fuel rail adapter since I didn't have the right size on hand. I thought I was being a bit of a hack. Turns out I was building a race car, hahaha. I was turbo charging the car, to be fair.
I wonder how much did this billet intake costs?
Because my car is kinda poor in matter of aftermarket performance parts
To have the legend himself papadakis to build it for you and manufacture it. oooweeee you gotta pay a pretty penny.
Awfully expensive if You come to machine shop straight from the street. What about grabing intake that looks somewhat similiar, machine flanges for Your engine then mate it together by either welding or making Your flange also an adapter plate for the other intake?
@@MindBlowerWTF I'm wiling to do something similar, I will go to a scrapyard and take intake manifold from the same car, cancel everything inside like the small throttles and porting it, the problem here it will not hold a decent pressure
dat knowledge.... just amazing
Awesome vid man! Beautiful parts. Cool to see how you work with O rings, too
Keep the great videos coming!
what was the reason for replacing the 3D printed plenum or just not 3D printing a new one? i'm guessing cost?
Papadakis definitely puts quality over quantity and I appreciate that because this are damn fine videos don’t care how long they are
great vid as always very interesting , thanks for sharing and keep up the good work
This is so excellent. Sub'd
It looks and sound like BMW 👎
Congrats on the win last event!!!
finally somethins exciting on youtube🙌
It was sad to see the 3D printed one get cracked, but this billet one looks just gorgeous! 😁
Did it? I was curious why the they swapped that. Where could I find news about it?
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Stefan Papdakis, the gift that keeps on giving. Brilliant work every time!
B58 Engine is in this winning Car 💯💪
What was wrong with 3D printing the manifold? Too expensive? Didn’t perform?
Καταπληκτική δουλειά κ. Παπαδάκη, κάποια στιγμή να σε δούμε να κάνεις και ένα δικού σου σχεδιασμού αυτοκίνητο....
I LOVE this type of stuff. Well done
Papadakis Racing :)
Nice. You should definitely teach mechanical engineering. I wish your videos existed back in the time when I was studying mechanical engineering.
Can you make a video about what's involved to delete the air to water manifold to use this air to air? Would it be possible to use this style of manifold on a street Supra?
what happend to the 3D printed one?, wasnt strong enough for the preasure??
If I remember correctly it blew(literally)from all the nos they were throwing at it in Seattle.
@@carboydorifutoparty3976 wow didn't know that
Always learn something new. That viton noodle looks interesting but I'm sure making your own o-rings would get old fast.
I would love to see you modify a Lamborghini V12 motor and twin turbo it.....but why stop there...lets quad turbo it...haha
I get that the video has a 99.5% positive rating... BUT WHO DOWNVOTES THIS?? This is pure innovation, explanation, and execution from an automotive legend!
As always, it looks and sounds like me arranging my toddler's puzzle.... Very easy....
So is the 3d printed manifold just not durable enough yet, or is it too expensive to justify another one? Obviously a billet manifold isn't cheap either, but i'd be interested to hear as to why you made the switch.
When are you goung to play wth the 2.0L M20A-FKS engine in the new 2021 TOYOTA Corolla, or at least take a look at it to see if it is PERFORMAMCE WORTHY....
Man the Supra is looking so good!
Can’t wait to see it back on the track🔥
Also known as the *UNEVEN FLOW intake Manifold.* The back cylinder(s) (especially #6) will get more air flow than the rest. Not designing an intake manifold that distributes airflow more evenly across the cylinders is lazy design work that ignores decades of easily-available-engineering-knowledge. #EngineerItBetter
Anyone know why he moved away from the dual plenum design they used previously?
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awesome video as usual, what jack stands do you guys use in your shop? I'm on the hunt for some really high quality ones I can depend on.
Nice... If somehow, sometime one bolt come lose... That will be good food for engine!? Mistake... You made it well, I'm commenting earlier. Also if i made that intake i will (beside direct injectors) put two on every intake pipe... Just to be looks powerful...
But with it being a non exchanger . How do you route the or more less recirculate the coolant fluid from oem intake manifold ? Any harm in recirculating ?
did he say 4 MILIMITER bolts? wow, papadakis is just more advanced that the whole country
Isn't it always good practice to slice "make an oring" stock at an angle(45° or so) so that there is as much contact area as possible for the adhesive?
Great video guys you should put these custom components on the market i have a m140i and all this stuff should work it would fly out
Really slick design on varying the volume of the plenum.......can be changed in a matter of minutes to match track conditions. Truly awesome application.......same with the throttle body spacers. Can hardly wait to see this dynoed and raced.
Amazing video and engineering. Is that substance 'Viton' not extremely dangerous in a fire situation? Like extremely corrosive?
This channel maybe the first auto channel to break half million subscribers without annoying screaming/intro/outro/goofing around/bullshit/ads/oversharing personal life or even music. Papadakis probably didn't realize his channel subscribe count lol
Would something like that ever be for sale. I am just a couple of months from building my 2jz GE into a massive GTE with VVTI
For fasteners smaller than 5mm or 1/4" you should use Loctite 222 (pink). Loctite 242 (blue) is medium strength, so small diameter fasteners may shear off when they are removed.
Why not using available O-Rings for the runners? wouldn't be simpler so use Standard size O-Ring instead of custom ones?
@papadakisracing it'd be good if you did a follow up on the 3D printed plenum. Reviewing failure points, would be super beneficial to the long term advancement of 3D printing technology.
Piece of art!! Are you using SolidWords for the files that are sent to the CNC cell? How did you get all of the manifold-to-engine interface dimensions and angles? 3-D scan? Thanks.
3.2L? You bored the engine? Hmm I don't remember anything about that. Also the 3D printed plenum was a beauty it's a shame to watch it go 😔. Great video nonetheless!
Why not go for individual throttle bodies? Just cost and complexity?
Great Job dude🆒!!! Where are the dyno results?? It has been quite sometime now, so plz share the dyno pulls ....
order some Papadakis Racing custom hand built O-rings! saw that yellow bee take a podium! good job!
500k subscribers? Wow, I remember when I joined at 40k. Still deserves more subs!
I came think about when Peter bjork made he's intake box 2jz 12 years ago from aluminum sheet metal and welding and polishing a lot of work.
Its slightly better to cut your o-ring cord on a 45 deg angle for more surface area to glue to. I'm sure square is probably okay for your application, but that was our supplier's recommendation. Thanks for the videos.
Hey mr papadakis. I have a question for you. Are you from Greece from crete island?;?
Fantastic as always. If I lived closer I would apply to work for you. I am surprised you didnt go with an off the shelf O-ring for the runners, but I'm sure there is a reason. How do you manage par levels of the detail parts like those custom bolts, and O-ring stock? Do you make spare intake manifolds in case of a crash?
2:13 that was a most satisfying noise, when it just fits so well
How many race type miles would you say this engine had? I know people woudl think this ideas crazy but i like to prove people wrong. What do think about this engine in an AWDTT. I think the big block is not the way to go. Keep up the badass work!
As you said that your 3D printed intake manifold cracked due to a nitrous backfire, would you use again a 3D printed part? Do you think they are reliable enough (printed parts)?
I would like to see it polished. Not necessary but the manifold looks like art, may as well give it that finishing touch IMHO.
Looks awesome. The straight logs like that always have a couple cylinders that suffer. If you kick the angle of the throttle opening directs the high speed air into the top of the plenum it helps with distribution. Example Holley hi-ram
I don't care if the videos are few and far between, the quality is always excellent!
Jesus that plenum spacer testing trick is God damn genius. I wonder if any gaskets are needed between to ensure a safe power. However that cnc stuff looks incredible and probably holds the power 😯😯
I have a high German degree in mechanical engineering and always learn something from Papadakis' videos. Never heard of just creating an O-ring as needed but that's brilliant!
Solid worx and what type of machining centers are you using? G code, conversational language. And hope you made about 3 or more intakes so if something happens like one of them gets stolen, cuz those look great.
How much did this part cost to make? just material and cnc. Love your channel and videos!!!
Did the montune rapid proto piece not work out? I'm curious to know why the switch. I understand continuous development, but I felt like the other manifold was a huge investment to move on to a more traditional setup. Always enjoy seeing the development.
For boosted applications the biggest plenum is always the best especially at high boost for hp . Small plenum gives torque sooner look at Honda’s small plenums to add torque to a no torque engine then the flaps/butterflies open to use the entire manifold or when v tec kicks in am I on the right track ?
They always say there's a special reason and optimal formula to figure out how much the plenum should taper at the end. But then you look at all those eBay aluminum intake manifolds and think to your self they must have just copied the shape, did they truly figure out the optimal taper? Maybe that would be an interesting video to explain (and throw in runner length and volume for optimal resonance if the video needs filler material).
Why do you not want to have a gasket, but orings?
My guess is that the gasket has to be "formed" right?
Wouldn't a gasket make servicing the engine easier because you can just "throw it on the thing"?
All the dislike must be coming from people who think the video is too shot....