It's endlessly frustrating that the judges always say "you HAVE to speak up for yourself!" and then when a girl actually does, they call her unprofessional!!! omfg
It's crazy how they only cared about getting the shot. The amount of stress these girls were put through is bs and I'm surprised there weren't more lawsuits.
Now that we have understanding about reality TV and how manufactured it is now and how edited everything is, of course we look at scenes differently, especially when some of the girls have come out and explain themselves about certain situations that have happened.
That situation with the hypothermia REALLY upsets me! 😡 it's a competition and had she have said I need to get out before they got the shot THEY LIKED, they would've said "You're difficult! You need to be able to handle the fact that you're going to have to work in uncomfortable situations where you have to push through!" And then placing the blame on her while she's literally freezing and laid out on the ground. Digusti
I remember how when ANTM was getting exposed, people were saying that Jay Manuel was the only good one or the only nice one on the show. And I was so confused 😅 because I watched the show and I don’t remember him being nice or better than the rest of the crew. He was rude and disrespectful to the contestants and he was just as bad as Tyra and the rest of the team. He’s not innocent at all.
I was looking for this comment. She just got done being a child and is still near the age of a minor and you all pressure her into taking a nude photo?? Gross.
I used to watch this show religiously. Now that I'm grown I realize how toxic it really was. I will never forget when they forced Kayla to kiss guys even after she said she was SA as a child and was afraid of men 😢
Girl, I am in the same boat. I used to look forward to each season and would binge-watch the reruns on the Oxygen channel. Looking at these shows now I can't believe it was something I took seriously. It was toxic and over all just a ridiculous show. 🙄
I also watched as a kid but I think it's easy to not think much about it when most of the time these girls and the judges complied with everything happening. I didn't watch a lot of the early seasons where most of the controversy was but I definitely remember hearing about them. I never liked when the contestants were forced to do things that made them uncomfortable or were blatantly wrong
I think they deliberately planned certain photoshoots to get a reaction out of the girls. There’s no way two contestants from different seasons had friends that died and then they later had death themed photo shoots. That can’t be coincidence. They did little slick things like constantly commenting on Keenyahs weight (from cycle 4) and then having her protray gluttony and an elephant in one photoshoot. It’s crazy bc she wasn’t even fat.
I HATED the fat shaming of Keenyah! That was so out of line and they minimized and dismissed how uncomfortable she was having to pose with the male model who was being inappropriate towards her.
Instead of firing the guy at the end for sexual harassment, they tell the model she needs to control the situation. These people are sick. This show was straight up abuse organized by bitter has-been models taking out their resentment on the newer generation for views.
Right! She tried to speak up and they basically called her unprofessional, when he was the one acting inappropriate. Also what did they want her to do, yell at him? Push him away? They would have still spun it to be her fault. I feel so bad for the women on this show, the amount of mental manipulation 😢
Literally infuriating. Like HOW ABOUT remove HIM & half of the models were so young. Being young watching it you don’t realize how young they were until you get older & it’s like .. the damn audacity !!!
Nah Tyra. That girl had hypothermia. And you saw that. Like yall dropped the temp of the pool. There shouldn’t be a challenge where people are in danger. And that man was being slick racist and yall eliminate her. That’s trash af.
@uchechiblxckgoddess it was for the views it's a reality TV show so they did extra shit on purpose in order to get them views up . That's why I couldn't do TV lol
honestly. they could have done the pool shoot without the water being freezing. the gag was already there, why the water ice water ??? also, yeah, that poor girl. she did not deserve that.
If you watched the show you could have known that sis shouldn't even have made it that far in the first place.i agree that they shouldn't have blamed her though.
@iammar1159 what was the point then? OP blamed the situation for why jaeda was eliminated but if you ask me, the judges and viewers who watched that cycle know jaeda would have flopped that challenge regardless. That's probably why they disregarded the racist at the time
@pare5108 what? Youre not making any sense. Her performance in other challenges does not negate the fact she was forced to kiss a racist. Youre either being obtuse on purpose or you just don't like her and are reaching for anything to discredit her experience.
Tyra Banks is one of those boomers in the creative industry that tells the new gen “I had to do it so you fucking have to” instead of using her position to change all of that she continues to perpetuate it ESPECIALLY SA WHICH IS IN EVERY INDUSTRY
Yes! There’s so many Gen X’ers like that. You should always pay it forward. I think some people are resentful that younger people don’t have to suffer in the same ways that they suffered.
@@foxroxy86 It's always gen x people. I've honestly never met a boomer like this, and am confused when I see people insult them. The most annoying thing boomers do is politician worship, but that was the era they grew up in. Gen x are known for being selfish, stuck in their youth, lacking empathy, and neglecting their children. They were literally called the "me" generation due to their narcissism.
I briefly worked for Kelly Cutrone at People's Revolution, before her appearance on ANTM. She knows, as many industry insiders do, that most of those photos wouldn't work in real life, which is why so few of the contestants truly made it as top models, doing high fashion editorial and runway.
according to the models themselves who went to Oliver Twixt’s interview, most of the photos they took in ANTM were editorial, high fashion and a little bit “out there” to say the least lmao but they said casting jobs preferred simple and studio shot photos for their portfolios
I’m almost ashamed of myself for not recognizing how problematic and toxic this show was. I mean I was a kid when it first started airing, but so many of these moments (the black face and treating cultures as costumes, the obviously bigoted contestants and participants, forcing the models to pose nude, the unsafe modeling shoots, traumatizing contestants, etc) are obviously not okay.
Bc we were taught that was how the industry was. Tyra did always state that. Her show was based off of the standard of the industry at that time. And honestly it was like that with regular jobs too. Jobs used to have so much power and treat employees like straight crap now it’s a lot better.
@NompiloKhumalo-jm7sm I wasnt even that young back then I was in my late teens but like I said in the comments I watched with my mom and we didnt think anything was wrong.
Please don’t let social media scare you into thinking that people wearing other culture clothes is a bad thing because other cultures love it, and they indulging it. Dressing up another culture, clothing, or even trying to emulate that culture is not disrespectful in any way shape or form. Cultures are meant to be shared and meant to be enjoyed by the greater part of society and humanity, as well as meant to be seen as beautiful
My mom and I noticed that if a black or mixed girl had long hair .... Tyra cut it off and usually sent them home soon after. My mom swears Tyra was bald and jealous 💀💀💀💀😝
ginger: doesn’t want to pose nude. becky: “ginger only took two pictures, it’s not fair to everyone else. she should get eliminated.” also becky: cries because she doesn’t want to pose nude. ???
i think from her point of view she also didnt want to pose naked but she had to suck it up and do it but ginger got a leeway. Doesnt make it right but thats where i think her frustration came from.
I’m tall so naturally everyone has always told me to model and as a young girl I thought about it often. No joke, this show ruined it for me. Lol I didn’t know how close to the industry the show was but I knew I wouldn’t fare well in 98% of those shoots so I sat it out 😂😂
In nda interviews, a lot of models even ones with more contentious storylines admit they would do it all over again if given the choice. You missed out.
The way she took advantage of Isis for her show. I remember she had her gender affirming surgery for the show and Tyra discussed the graphic details of it. As a kid I learned that trans people exist but the Tyra show was probably not the best source.
I remember when she was so hard on that young girl who was pregnant and working at the Bunny Ranch. I think she was a prostitute but tyra was so judgmental, mean and harsh.
@patriciaa4451 atleast she created a platform for people like isis to feel seen and heard. It's weird that no one is giving tyra credit for that when no one was doing it watching trans models on antm was very enlightening to me especially since even till date trans models aren't giving any platform to be seen and tyra was doing this in 2006
What’s worse is that they framed it as “training” for the “real industry”. If you can’t handle this, you’ll never make it in the REAL modeling world, blah blah blah. Yeah, no. In the modeling industry, you have every choice as to what jobs you go to a casting for. If the job is a nude job (RARE in high fashion) and you’re not interested, you simply do not go to that casting. Your agents probably won’t even send you the option to go, since they know your values. That same brand will have a non-nude casting tomorrow. It’s fine, no one cares!
ALSO the girls who went on the show could not get work after! There was a stigma around the contestants, it was embarrassing! Not worth going on the show at allll.
Framed it as the Olympics of modeling, modeling "bootcamp". Some were exaggerated but most not. Plus it was for tv and it worked since they got 24 cycles plus dozens of international versions with dozens of cycles of their own.
@@kimberleywilliams7802esp after cycle 5/6. But that still didn't stop millions of girls and then guys from auditioning year over year across 2 decades of time. The over all sucess rate is around 30% of people who stuck with modeling and or found monetary gains. That's in America. KNTM AND VNTM had massively successful winners and contestants. Across all cycles.
Ginger? She had a respectable career after. I remember her comp card specifically states she doesn't do noodles. She stuck to her conviction and made it work. But it definitely impacted her work prospects somewhat.
With all the Caucasian countries to choose from they decided to go with black face. If they were so worried about being diverse, they could’ve cast more POC’s.
this is what pisses me off the MOST. tyra geeking over all these ethnic combinations when there are beautiful ppl like that who *actually exist in the world* but they couldn’t be bothered to cast those ppl. they’d rather construct a caricature in their own warped image. nastyyyyyy.
It seems like the show’s producers were taunting some of these girls with some of the photoshoot themes. It’s giving humiliation ritual. Tyra was so trash.
@@dasiareed2708it’s deeper than you think lol. Humiliation rituals get views, it’s like watching a train wreck. You want to look away but you look, that’s why selling your soul makes you popular. You’re not actually selling your soul to the devil (whose name is Iblis, look it up) but you’re going against God and it’s shocking to people by how immoral one is being
What I never understood about making them pose nude is that Tyra herself has NEVER posed nude. She “simulated” nudity, but was never fully nude like the girls had to be. she admits it too. But yet she still had a full on career so to pressure the girls and make them feel like “if you don’t do this, you’re not cooperating and will get sent home” is insanely hypocritical.
Omg I’m so here for this. Who remembers that horrific episode where the young ladies had to pose in coffins? Not to mention while being six feet under. 🤦🏽♀️
What struck a nerve in me is all of the hypocritical contradictory advises they gave these girls. Like “you have to speak up when you reach your limits. We can’t tell and can’t read your minds,” but then “be professional and suck it up to win”. Each time someone spoke up it backfires and they’re on the chopping block. Caridee, Keenyah, and Jada are were scolded and victim blamed. Tyra and Jay Manuel were such self righteous assholes.
The amount of gaslighting and manipulation from Tyra and the judges is sickening. I was obsessed with this show when I was little, I thought they were expects in modelling and the girls should always listen to them. I even wanted to be a model myself. Now I realised that the girls that didn't make it in the house were actually protected. The rejection was definitely protection
It’s crazy to think production could have done so much to help the girls or even make situations more comfortable for them it breaks my heart to see people being abused to achieve their dreams
Watching how these women were HORRIBLY treated, especially the darker-skinned Black women, js SICKENING to watch!!! Tyra seemed to take all her anger on Naomi out on them & consistently ABUSED them & perpetuated several colorist aggressions, too. Disgusting
And somehow you'd think this could only be an expected disaster for a reality show to go with-JEEZ people were just saying anything back then that would likely be a death sentence in 2024 hah nevermind 1924 This is the kinda stuff that makes me unable to relate to this woke culture, the young people. What?? You shoulda heard the kind of stuff people were saying at least two decades ago man, I was saying stupid stuff too, it's hard to explain to these kids how I was open minded enough to have no need to remind anyone or mention my cult 3k times a day, always reminding people of the stuff they and everyone said before it became popular to essentially call yourself an advocate for rights, out here busying yourself with uneducated relentless bs, go get a degree and either shove it up your glory hole or find glory in contributing to society beyond Twitter dingus Jerry Springer had to have made more money than anyone else off it all. Now you're hearing the same popstars talk about respect for women, gimme a break ladies!!! What was that song you were making millions off of shamelessly shaking your booty to in 2000? I'm sure having a fast forward button and not a penis are the main reasons I can't recall the tunes. Sorry I'm putting off chores and not chancing any interruption by squeals of stupidity
omfg at 17:32 did Jay REALLY have to say "think Gia!" to the model pretending to be a strung out drug addict?? As in Gia Carangi?? that's MAD disrespectful..
I was thinking the same thing. But that was the ONLY GIA I could think of too. That was a model. I questioned it back then. But I’m glad I’m not the only one. That was super disrespectful!! Along with sooooo many other things that happened on the show.
@@larhondaburchett3271 RIGHT?? I get back in the day it was common to see a lot of "mean girl" behavior, not watching your mouth, trying to be witty and snarky even if it meant being untastefully mean (I mean hello Janice D was on the show lol) but there was just NO class in the show runners, Tyra, or the other judges like 90% of the time
But if one of the girls got seriously injured or died from one of these dangerous challenges, it would be: "ANTM takes the safety of our competitors VERY seriously" 🙄
40:35 Omg poor Kenya. I don’t remember this episode but I’m sorry to see no one had her back despite her telling the crew she was being made to feel uncomfortable. That male model was definitely inappropriate 😖
After posing in Maxim I was scouted off MySpace for this show. So glad I wasn’t chosen. I was friends with Keenyah for a few years when she moved here 😅 I didn’t realize so many girls I met in the club were on that show. I stopped watching after Cycle 4 once I graduated from college. It seemed childish.
Wow thank God for the internet as these clips remind us of how far we've come and futher work that still needs to be done. Racism, Abuse, Mysogyny...none of these ladies should have been forced to continue in those positions
THIS. And she admits it herself, she simulated nudity. For someone who never posed nude and made these girls feel like they had to in order to be in fashion, she’s had a very successful career.
When Winnie Harlow was on ANTM in 2014 one of the photographers Yu Tsai kept calling her a “panda” during her photoshoot. She was rightfully pissed off. Later, she confronted him and told him that it would be a bad influence on the youth to say that. He tried to justify himself by saying he called her a panda out of love…Bullshit. Highly melanated people have a much harder blow to their mental health and confidence because of the stark contrast when they have vitiligo. It just amazes me realizing how strong people like Michael Jackson and WH are to have put up with that (and everything else) and still be positive.
@@Bee-lieve623 Rewatching that clip makes my blood boil. He was so aggressive and dismissive; gaslighting her like crazy. He told her calling her Panda was a 'soft nickname' if she couldn't take it, he'd call her "porcupine" instead...crazy.
I used to watch this weekly with my mom as I wanted to be a model. I thought Tyra was really trying to mentor these girls. However the way they overly criticized them on the panel every week I felt it was extremely overboard. The one that makes me cringe is with Yaya and they questioned her heritage choice because she didn’t or did (can’t remember) pick the kente cloth.
@@OBBThicc04 this is their predecessor. They wouldn’t even feel comfortable producing shows with this same tone x10 if it weren’t for ANTM walking so they could run.
@@NeptuneMartian That is true. It's almost a cautionary because the modeling industry is no joke.Just imagine the drugs, the belittling, the assaults outside of this show.
I don’t know who’s worse, Tyra, or Jay being completely insensitive and often looking irritated and inconvenienced at these women’s very real pain when he knows this show has orchestrated these challenges specifically to get a reaction from them. He’s an awful person.
I hate competition shows because you can't advocate for yourself out of fear of being eliminated. It makes for a nasty and dangerous dynamic. Tyra didn't care about those girls for one second. We all know if someone said the water was too cold and stopped then that person would've been eliminated and made fun of by the judges for being too weak.
I don’t think Tyra is evil she is just a product of her environment. The modeling industry is cruel but instead of making a change she continued to be toxic and being on TV just made it worse. The things they put these girls through for TV is crazy. I remember how they broke Toccora down and then asked her why she was so quiet now. She was so confident and secure with her weight and they didn’t like that.
I honestly don't think that tyra did anything like the vast majority of the photoshoots on ANTM in her actual modelling life. These shoots were clearly created for shock value entertainment not reality stuff.
I truly thank God for His patience and grace in my life. I say this because i am truly bothered that I use to be entertained by this in High School. This series was set out to destroy some spirits man.
This show was so bad especially for young girl's esteems. Incredibly contradictory and bully vibes. Ridiculous how they were treated, also the race swaping is insane...
The girl at 4:51 telling her she’s obviously not doing what it takes is the exact kind of person to end up exploited, abused and taken advantage of. That girl was smart for standing up for herself and what she felt was right. “I’m gonna wanna see confidence, like you’re comfortable in your own skin..almost like you have clothes on”😐Maybe someone once told him the same thing..
Great video, My sisters and cousins use to watch this show, If Tyra said what she said about being Homeless for a day during the height of the social media era, she would've gotten destroyed. This show wouldn't last a season if it were made these days. Tyra herself would've gotten cancelled.
If those girls are literally stopping photoshoots to tell you how uncomfortable they felt with those creepy men around, Tyra and production should have kicked the men off set immediately. It’s actually painful looking back on what these poor women went through my goodness 😣😖 to think this was the SHOW to watch growing up!!
These girls were abused for entertainment. And we all, as well as them, thought it was “what they had to do to make it”. I don’t blame the girls or the viewers, I blame the producers, Tyra, and the other judges. They had no compassion whatsoever.
They could have done that grave photoshoot literally ANYWHERE you can’t even tell they were in an actual grave- could have done it with cgi walls. They tortured her for views
i use to love this show as a teen. it's so problematic and pisses me off. tyra was a bully instead of actually teaching modeling and empowering these women. in the end she was just there for the views
They way that Jay does not give AF AT ALL 😤 when the ladies are clearly uncomfortable or vulnerable PISSES me off!! Like he looks like he genuinely does not care. Crazy.
Ugh so many of these episodes are disgusting, but the ones that always get me is Jayla. Like not only being in the situation with this disgusting racist man, but telling the people around you, WHO ARE ALSO BLACK, and them being so nonchalant. The misogynior that Tyra and the rest of the cast perpetuated is so obvious and unbearable to watch. I can't even imagine being in these girls shoes, having it broadcast to the world.
This was my show back in the day! Even my mom loved it. I think we all believed that it was fake ( kind of like wrestling) because who would voluntarily put themselves through all this for a modeling contract that may not materialize? When I learned that these women were tricked and taken advantage of and mistreated, I was so disappointed. Being entertained by someone else’s pain was a real eye opener and a big regret. Thank you for another amazing video❤️
I now understand why a lot of contestants (even winners) stopped modelling either right after or some time after. Sure didn't help that the models were ironically at a disadvantage from just appearing on the show.
I loved your commentary on this. This show was very popular in my age group my senior year of high school (08-09) and we watched alllll winter break. I remember that triggering a lot of self confidence issues 😢 But on a better note as far as your video goes, I loved it all and especially the outro. By far my fave
Never realised how problematic this show was when I was younger even going as far as saying that the models should suck it and work its not that bad. Now im much older Tyra and the rest of her team were really evil. It actually crazy how long this show lasted without people trynna sue the show.
It's endlessly frustrating that the judges always say "you HAVE to speak up for yourself!" and then when a girl actually does, they call her unprofessional!!! omfg
It's crazy how they only cared about getting the shot. The amount of stress these girls were put through is bs and I'm surprised there weren't more lawsuits.
Typical gaslighting bullsh*t
Yes!
EXACTLY bc then they’re “ hard to work with
Now that we have understanding about reality TV and how manufactured it is now and how edited everything is, of course we look at scenes differently, especially when some of the girls have come out and explain themselves about certain situations that have happened.
That situation with the hypothermia REALLY upsets me! 😡 it's a competition and had she have said I need to get out before they got the shot THEY LIKED, they would've said "You're difficult! You need to be able to handle the fact that you're going to have to work in uncomfortable situations where you have to push through!" And then placing the blame on her while she's literally freezing and laid out on the ground. Digusti
I hate hate HATE how Jay Manuel acts like he was a victim like it wasn't recorded the way he treated the girls and was also part of the problem!
Same!!!!
I was thinking the same thing
“i was soooo uncomfortable” yet he said the lines and forced women into dangerous, nasty shoots. he’s complicit.
Yep he was a menace but he’s trying to rewrite history
I remember how when ANTM was getting exposed, people were saying that Jay Manuel was the only good one or the only nice one on the show. And I was so confused 😅 because I watched the show and I don’t remember him being nice or better than the rest of the crew. He was rude and disrespectful to the contestants and he was just as bad as Tyra and the rest of the team. He’s not innocent at all.
Forcing an 18 year old to be naked in front of people is so wrong and revolting
I was looking for this comment. She just got done being a child and is still near the age of a minor and you all pressure her into taking a nude photo?? Gross.
@@GP71_OO ikr so predatory and exploitative
Especially without regard to the contestants' CONSENT. Very wrong
Rightttt and pressuring these girls some still in high school was always crazy to me.
It annoyed me so and because TYRA HERSELF literally doesn’t even pose nude at all.
I used to watch this show religiously. Now that I'm grown I realize how toxic it really was. I will never forget when they forced Kayla to kiss guys even after she said she was SA as a child and was afraid of men 😢
Girl, I am in the same boat. I used to look forward to each season and would binge-watch the reruns on the Oxygen channel. Looking at these shows now I can't believe it was something I took seriously. It was toxic and over all just a ridiculous show. 🙄
Exactly she didn't give a damn
I'm really surprised no one has gone after Tyra in the courts
I also watched as a kid but I think it's easy to not think much about it when most of the time these girls and the judges complied with everything happening. I didn't watch a lot of the early seasons where most of the controversy was but I definitely remember hearing about them. I never liked when the contestants were forced to do things that made them uncomfortable or were blatantly wrong
Yes that moment was truly insane and the fact a lot of them found more success on their own no thanks to the show says alot
Man the 2000s were a wild and tasteless time
Agreed.
No lies told
Y’all think this is bad? Imagine pre 2000s, I think this era was the turn of what was accepted. The racism, the sexism, etc.
@@OBBThicc04 Good point. And tbh we're not that far off either
And now I have to worry about sharing a bathroom with a man
I think they deliberately planned certain photoshoots to get a reaction out of the girls. There’s no way two contestants from different seasons had friends that died and then they later had death themed photo shoots. That can’t be coincidence. They did little slick things like constantly commenting on Keenyahs weight (from cycle 4) and then having her protray gluttony and an elephant in one photoshoot. It’s crazy bc she wasn’t even fat.
That’s honestly so disgusting
I HATED the fat shaming of Keenyah! That was so out of line and they minimized and dismissed how uncomfortable she was having to pose with the male model who was being inappropriate towards her.
they were so strange for that smh
the way they made that one girl "Wrath" during a death photoshoot the same week her friend died is super interesting and disturbing.
Butteflydiordiva is the youtuber who submitted the cycle 4 photoshoot concept online. She uploaded the shoot to her channel as well. Yall reaching.
Instead of firing the guy at the end for sexual harassment, they tell the model she needs to control the situation. These people are sick. This show was straight up abuse organized by bitter has-been models taking out their resentment on the newer generation for views.
Right! She tried to speak up and they basically called her unprofessional, when he was the one acting inappropriate. Also what did they want her to do, yell at him? Push him away? They would have still spun it to be her fault. I feel so bad for the women on this show, the amount of mental manipulation 😢
Right, and that one girl taking up for him was even worst.
Society always catered to disgusting guys.
Nailed it
Literally infuriating. Like HOW ABOUT remove HIM & half of the models were so young. Being young watching it you don’t realize how young they were until you get older & it’s like .. the damn audacity !!!
Nah Tyra. That girl had hypothermia. And you saw that. Like yall dropped the temp of the pool. There shouldn’t be a challenge where people are in danger. And that man was being slick racist and yall eliminate her. That’s trash af.
They dropped the water temp? 😂😂😂
I believe it!😂
what even was the reason for the pool to be so cold? How did it even help to the shoot??
@uchechiblxckgoddess it was for the views it's a reality TV show so they did extra shit on purpose in order to get them views up . That's why I couldn't do TV lol
I never even clockkked that that’s craaaazy !
honestly. they could have done the pool shoot without the water being freezing. the gag was already there, why the water ice water ??? also, yeah, that poor girl. she did not deserve that.
They def knew that girls friend passed away before that shoot 🙄
@@ronniedoesit5881 it's like they used the girls rl situations in challenges... 🤔
Yeah that’s my thinking too.
They preyed on the women’s personal issues
They 100% created these shoots around what these girls were going through so they could get drama for the cameras. Absolutely awful.
@@RybatGrimesExactly 🎯
Not the racist Italian guy getting sis ELIMINATED from the show?! Disgusted by all the judges for blaming her for being grossed out by a racist loser.
They handled the situation like jerks! They should've given that energy to the racist! That challenge never sat right with me.
If you watched the show you could have known that sis shouldn't even have made it that far in the first place.i agree that they shouldn't have blamed her though.
@@pare5108 that wasn’t the point.
@iammar1159 what was the point then? OP blamed the situation for why jaeda was eliminated but if you ask me, the judges and viewers who watched that cycle know jaeda would have flopped that challenge regardless. That's probably why they disregarded the racist at the time
@pare5108 what? Youre not making any sense. Her performance in other challenges does not negate the fact she was forced to kiss a racist. Youre either being obtuse on purpose or you just don't like her and are reaching for anything to discredit her experience.
Tyra Banks is one of those boomers in the creative industry that tells the new gen “I had to do it so you fucking have to” instead of using her position to change all of that she continues to perpetuate it
ESPECIALLY SA WHICH IS IN EVERY INDUSTRY
She’s not a boomer but gen x. Which makes it even worse.
Tyra is the worst! This failed like her show did. How she treated women vs men shows soooo clear
Yes! There’s so many Gen X’ers like that. You should always pay it forward. I think some people are resentful that younger people don’t have to suffer in the same ways that they suffered.
🎯🎯🎯
@@foxroxy86 It's always gen x people. I've honestly never met a boomer like this, and am confused when I see people insult them. The most annoying thing boomers do is politician worship, but that was the era they grew up in. Gen x are known for being selfish, stuck in their youth, lacking empathy, and neglecting their children. They were literally called the "me" generation due to their narcissism.
And the whole kicker is NONE of the photoshoots they did could work for a portfolio
Really?
The photos were not editorial they sucked.
Eylse's agency wanted her to use the sports NFL photo in her portfolio.
I briefly worked for Kelly Cutrone at People's Revolution, before her appearance on ANTM. She knows, as many industry insiders do, that most of those photos wouldn't work in real life, which is why so few of the contestants truly made it as top models, doing high fashion editorial and runway.
according to the models themselves who went to Oliver Twixt’s interview, most of the photos they took in ANTM were editorial, high fashion and a little bit “out there” to say the least lmao but they said casting jobs preferred simple and studio shot photos for their portfolios
I’m almost ashamed of myself for not recognizing how problematic and toxic this show was. I mean I was a kid when it first started airing, but so many of these moments (the black face and treating cultures as costumes, the obviously bigoted contestants and participants, forcing the models to pose nude, the unsafe modeling shoots, traumatizing contestants, etc) are obviously not okay.
Don't be ashamed, we've all been kids and naive. There's nothing to be ashamed of
Bc we were taught that was how the industry was. Tyra did always state that. Her show was based off of the standard of the industry at that time. And honestly it was like that with regular jobs too. Jobs used to have so much power and treat employees like straight crap now it’s a lot better.
I totally agree like how did we not see that something was wrong here? I dont know what shifted our way of thinking eventually.
@NompiloKhumalo-jm7sm I wasnt even that young back then I was in my late teens but like I said in the comments I watched with my mom and we didnt think anything was wrong.
Please don’t let social media scare you into thinking that people wearing other culture clothes is a bad thing because other cultures love it, and they indulging it. Dressing up another culture, clothing, or even trying to emulate that culture is not disrespectful in any way shape or form.
Cultures are meant to be shared and meant to be enjoyed by the greater part of society and humanity, as well as meant to be seen as beautiful
My mom and I noticed that if a black or mixed girl had long hair .... Tyra cut it off and usually sent them home soon after.
My mom swears Tyra was bald and jealous 💀💀💀💀😝
LMAOOOOOO I meannnnnnnmnn its possible
I’m dead 😂💀
Tyra loved nothing more than to humble beautiful girls, particularly beautiful black girls
Wayment……mama might be on to something 🤔😂😂 I swear I never noticed.
She did the same to some ww too
ginger: doesn’t want to pose nude.
becky: “ginger only took two pictures, it’s not fair to everyone else. she should get eliminated.”
also becky: cries because she doesn’t want to pose nude.
???
That was so confusing to me.
Projection is a deadly disease
i think from her point of view she also didnt want to pose naked but she had to suck it up and do it but ginger got a leeway. Doesnt make it right but thats where i think her frustration came from.
I tried out for this show in 2005, kinda glad I didn't make it now. Everything happens for a reason 🙏🏽
Sometimes rejection is protection.
I’m tall so naturally everyone has always told me to model and as a young girl I thought about it often. No joke, this show ruined it for me. Lol I didn’t know how close to the industry the show was but I knew I wouldn’t fare well in 98% of those shoots so I sat it out 😂😂
In nda interviews, a lot of models even ones with more contentious storylines admit they would do it all over again if given the choice. You missed out.
While we’re acknowledging that Tyra actually is deranged, let’s look back on Tyra’s talk show 😅
I wish all episodes were available to stream.
She was so weird on her show trying to put down women
The way she took advantage of Isis for her show. I remember she had her gender affirming surgery for the show and Tyra discussed the graphic details of it. As a kid I learned that trans people exist but the Tyra show was probably not the best source.
I remember when she was so hard on that young girl who was pregnant and working at the Bunny Ranch. I think she was a prostitute but tyra was so judgmental, mean and harsh.
@patriciaa4451 atleast she created a platform for people like isis to feel seen and heard. It's weird that no one is giving tyra credit for that when no one was doing it watching trans models on antm was very enlightening to me especially since even till date trans models aren't giving any platform to be seen and tyra was doing this in 2006
What’s worse is that they framed it as “training” for the “real industry”. If you can’t handle this, you’ll never make it in the REAL modeling world, blah blah blah. Yeah, no. In the modeling industry, you have every choice as to what jobs you go to a casting for. If the job is a nude job (RARE in high fashion) and you’re not interested, you simply do not go to that casting. Your agents probably won’t even send you the option to go, since they know your values. That same brand will have a non-nude casting tomorrow. It’s fine, no one cares!
These girls had choices too. Don't sign up or just leave!
ALSO the girls who went on the show could not get work after! There was a stigma around the contestants, it was embarrassing! Not worth going on the show at allll.
When I grew up and understood that the reality was not as harsh, I seriously e-evaluated this show
Framed it as the Olympics of modeling, modeling "bootcamp". Some were exaggerated but most not. Plus it was for tv and it worked since they got 24 cycles plus dozens of international versions with dozens of cycles of their own.
@@kimberleywilliams7802esp after cycle 5/6. But that still didn't stop millions of girls and then guys from auditioning year over year across 2 decades of time. The over all sucess rate is around 30% of people who stuck with modeling and or found monetary gains.
That's in America. KNTM AND VNTM had massively successful winners and contestants. Across all cycles.
I would've cussed Tyra ass out lol. Because literally no one but Tiffany actually addressed her BS at the time.
How did Tiffany address it?
This was "High Fashion" Fear Factor
Jay manual want to play the victim now but wasn’t uncomfortable then. The producers on the show were very messy.
I applaud the 1st girl. She stuck up for herself. One & done. 👏
Ginger? She had a respectable career after. I remember her comp card specifically states she doesn't do noodles. She stuck to her conviction and made it work. But it definitely impacted her work prospects somewhat.
With all the Caucasian countries to choose from they decided to go with black face. If they were so worried about being diverse, they could’ve cast more POC’s.
this is what pisses me off the MOST. tyra geeking over all these ethnic combinations when there are beautiful ppl like that who *actually exist in the world* but they couldn’t be bothered to cast those ppl. they’d rather construct a caricature in their own warped image. nastyyyyyy.
‘First of all you can’t cry cause we don’t have time to fix your makeup’ 🙄
That was low-key cruel. It's giving "U are a property to us, we don't care about how u feel coz we have money to make"
@@RecoveringChristian okay idiot
Pissed me off so bad. I know it’s a show but he had such a nasty attitude all the time.
There's a special place in hell specifically for Tyra and Jay Manuel.
It seems like the show’s producers were taunting some of these girls with some of the photoshoot themes. It’s giving humiliation ritual. Tyra was so trash.
More so the producers knew it’ll be good tv not everything is a stupid ritual
@@dasiareed2708it’s deeper than you think lol. Humiliation rituals get views, it’s like watching a train wreck. You want to look away but you look, that’s why selling your soul makes you popular. You’re not actually selling your soul to the devil (whose name is Iblis, look it up) but you’re going against God and it’s shocking to people by how immoral one is being
@@hotmess9640 you guys will say anything
Same thing I thought
this show was sick! Tyra Banks and everyone else on that panel is a monster!
Making them pose nude was crazy! They should have investigated this production. So many predatory things happened!
What I never understood about making them pose nude is that Tyra herself has NEVER posed nude. She “simulated” nudity, but was never fully nude like the girls had to be. she admits it too. But yet she still had a full on career so to pressure the girls and make them feel like “if you don’t do this, you’re not cooperating and will get sent home” is insanely hypocritical.
Watching this now as a adult/mother.. my flabber is gasteddd!!
Omg I’m so here for this. Who remembers that horrific episode where the young ladies had to pose in coffins? Not to mention while being six feet under. 🤦🏽♀️
🤦🏾♀️
One of the girl’s friend died the very same day. The SAME day!
@@kamsismithI’ll never forget that. It’s was some truly wicked work.
@@LoveK1Same here. I was so appalled 😱
@@kamsismithExactly. So horrible and cruel.
The way i would’ve walked off for all these shoots. Idgaf. Never have. 😂
🤣I be thinking, would I be able to deal with the industry or walk off
Omg youre soo bad@ss Brenda...
oh my god all the victim blaming from the judges, this is so awful, i feel so bad for these girls
no type of protection
Jay Manuel's total lack of empathy towards these contestants makes my blood boil 🤬
I feel like Tyra wanted other people to experience the hell she went through. It’s sad but hurt people , hurt people .
But that's the actual reality of the modeling industry. I've been there it will drag you through the mud
I don’t like Jay Manuel at all. He was Tyra’s bull dog.
She/herself was a bull dog as well. 🫤
This show was entertaining and toxic as hell
right
What struck a nerve in me is all of the hypocritical contradictory advises they gave these girls. Like “you have to speak up when you reach your limits. We can’t tell and can’t read your minds,” but then “be professional and suck it up to win”.
Each time someone spoke up it backfires and they’re on the chopping block. Caridee, Keenyah, and Jada are were scolded and victim blamed. Tyra and Jay Manuel were such self righteous assholes.
The amount of gaslighting and manipulation from Tyra and the judges is sickening. I was obsessed with this show when I was little, I thought they were expects in modelling and the girls should always listen to them. I even wanted to be a model myself. Now I realised that the girls that didn't make it in the house were actually protected. The rejection was definitely protection
Amen !!!
It’s crazy to think production could have done so much to help the girls or even make situations more comfortable for them it breaks my heart to see people being abused to achieve their dreams
They weren’t going to because they were the reason why the mistreatment happened. They produced the show.
Had to skip Jael's photoshoot 😢 could not even look at her like that 💔 RIP & you seemed so kind and real and strong on the show ❤
Can you tell where she’s at in this video 💔
@@eriklino6429starts at about 13:45
I miss her so much
Sometimes That Whole "How Much Do You Want It" Makes You Go Against Your Morals
Doing Things You Dont Wanna Do
Watching how these women were HORRIBLY treated, especially the darker-skinned Black women, js SICKENING to watch!!! Tyra seemed to take all her anger on Naomi out on them & consistently ABUSED them & perpetuated several colorist aggressions, too. Disgusting
20:38 “I’m a black girl with a nose job” 🙄
that irritated tf outta me
😮😮 wow. Is that what that idiot said?! And people in the background laughed...I didn't catch what she had said. Glad I found this comment. Just wild
And somehow you'd think this could only be an expected disaster for a reality show to go with-JEEZ people were just saying anything back then that would likely be a death sentence in 2024 hah nevermind 1924
This is the kinda stuff that makes me unable to relate to this woke culture, the young people. What?? You shoulda heard the kind of stuff people were saying at least two decades ago man, I was saying stupid stuff too, it's hard to explain to these kids how I was open minded enough to have no need to remind anyone or mention my cult 3k times a day, always reminding people of the stuff they and everyone said before it became popular to essentially call yourself an advocate for rights, out here busying yourself with uneducated relentless bs, go get a degree and either shove it up your glory hole or find glory in contributing to society beyond Twitter dingus
Jerry Springer had to have made more money than anyone else off it all. Now you're hearing the same popstars talk about respect for women, gimme a break ladies!!! What was that song you were making millions off of shamelessly shaking your booty to in 2000? I'm sure having a fast forward button and not a penis are the main reasons I can't recall the tunes. Sorry I'm putting off chores and not chancing any interruption by squeals of stupidity
omfg at 17:32 did Jay REALLY have to say "think Gia!" to the model pretending to be a strung out drug addict?? As in Gia Carangi?? that's MAD disrespectful..
I was thinking the same thing. But that was the ONLY GIA I could think of too. That was a model. I questioned it back then. But I’m glad I’m not the only one. That was super disrespectful!! Along with sooooo many other things that happened on the show.
@@larhondaburchett3271 RIGHT?? I get back in the day it was common to see a lot of "mean girl" behavior, not watching your mouth, trying to be witty and snarky even if it meant being untastefully mean (I mean hello Janice D was on the show lol) but there was just NO class in the show runners, Tyra, or the other judges like 90% of the time
@@chickenismyhero I agree 100%!!!!
Absolutely insane
Just heard that and ran to the comments. So evil
But if one of the girls got seriously injured or died from one of these dangerous challenges, it would be: "ANTM takes the safety of our competitors VERY seriously" 🙄
40:35 Omg poor Kenya. I don’t remember this episode but I’m sorry to see no one had her back despite her telling the crew she was being made to feel uncomfortable. That male model was definitely inappropriate 😖
Dude was literally getting hard dancing on her. I was grossed out years ago, and I'm grossed out now. I would've left. Sh*t was crazy smh
After posing in Maxim I was scouted off MySpace for this show. So glad I wasn’t chosen. I was friends with Keenyah for a few years when she moved here 😅 I didn’t realize so many girls I met in the club were on that show. I stopped watching after Cycle 4 once I graduated from college. It seemed childish.
Wow thank God for the internet as these clips remind us of how far we've come and futher work that still needs to be done. Racism, Abuse, Mysogyny...none of these ladies should have been forced to continue in those positions
yup
That one biracial model who had to do blackface and the hapa photoshoot were the moments that came to mind.
Forcing people to get naked in front of the world is never ok
Used to watch this all the time as a kid I never knew how bad this show was
Tyra has NEVER posed nude in her own career
THIS. And she admits it herself, she simulated nudity. For someone who never posed nude and made these girls feel like they had to in order to be in fashion, she’s had a very successful career.
When Winnie Harlow was on ANTM in 2014 one of the photographers Yu Tsai kept calling her a “panda” during her photoshoot. She was rightfully pissed off.
Later, she confronted him and told him that it would be a bad influence on the youth to say that. He tried to justify himself by saying he called her a panda out of love…Bullshit.
Highly melanated people have a much harder blow to their mental health and confidence because of the stark contrast when they have vitiligo. It just amazes me realizing how strong people like Michael Jackson and WH are to have put up with that (and everything else) and still be positive.
I remember that
I forgot the nickname that he was going to call her after she told him that she didn't like being called Panda. But it made me curse when I heard it
Anytime a girl tries to stand up for herself, she's deemed problematic and made to be the season's villan
@@Bee-lieve623 Rewatching that clip makes my blood boil. He was so aggressive and dismissive; gaslighting her like crazy. He told her calling her Panda was a 'soft nickname' if she couldn't take it, he'd call her "porcupine" instead...crazy.
@@NompiloKhumalo-jm7smespecially if she's black
the fact that these men who were assaulting these girls got to stay on set is horrific
I used to watch this weekly with my mom as I wanted to be a model. I thought Tyra was really trying to mentor these girls. However the way they overly criticized them on the panel every week I felt it was extremely overboard. The one that makes me cringe is with Yaya and they questioned her heritage choice because she didn’t or did (can’t remember) pick the kente cloth.
Oh yeah, she didn't pick the kente cloth hat because the material felt cheap
@@Bee-lieve623 Then if she didn’t pick it then it would have been why didn’t you embrace your heritage
This show was very problematic on all levels!
I used to watch it, but now I'm looking at it and wondering if this whole show was Tyra's way of humbling/punishing up and coming models.
TYRA was diabolical…
Y’all want to know who’s really diabolical? Mona Scott young, Natalie nunn… Jocelyn Hernandez
@@OBBThicc04 this is their predecessor. They wouldn’t even feel comfortable producing shows with this same tone x10 if it weren’t for ANTM walking so they could run.
@@NeptuneMartian naw, I don’t believe that. Never saw a punch thrown on Tyra show.
@@OBBThicc04 it’s not about the level of violence. It’s more so the degradation of contestants.
@@NeptuneMartian That is true. It's almost a cautionary because the modeling industry is no joke.Just imagine the drugs, the belittling, the assaults outside of this show.
The mastermind behind this television show is a monster
@@AJCallowayLive and probably a millionaire 😅 smh
[cough] Ken Mok [cough]
The challenge on top of that building in the freezing rain actually started to make me cry and anxious. WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT??
I don’t know who’s worse, Tyra, or Jay being completely insensitive and often looking irritated and inconvenienced at these women’s very real pain when he knows this show has orchestrated these challenges specifically to get a reaction from them. He’s an awful person.
I hate competition shows because you can't advocate for yourself out of fear of being eliminated. It makes for a nasty and dangerous dynamic. Tyra didn't care about those girls for one second. We all know if someone said the water was too cold and stopped then that person would've been eliminated and made fun of by the judges for being too weak.
That graveyard photo shoot was so disgusting. Like why do that when you know she just lost someone
I don’t think Tyra is evil she is just a product of her environment. The modeling industry is cruel but instead of making a change she continued to be toxic and being on TV just made it worse. The things they put these girls through for TV is crazy. I remember how they broke Toccora down and then asked her why she was so quiet now. She was so confident and secure with her weight and they didn’t like that.
Yeah. She didn’t do the drugs and alcohol but she would do what “people” told her would work for her
nah tyra always went out of her way to be mean and evil. even as a 13 year old watching the show i remember feeling it.
The vast majority of evil people are just a product of their environment, but it’s still evil
I honestly don't think that tyra did anything like the vast majority of the photoshoots on ANTM in her actual modelling life. These shoots were clearly created for shock value entertainment not reality stuff.
I truly thank God for His patience and grace in my life. I say this because i am truly bothered that I use to be entertained by this in High School.
This series was set out to destroy some spirits man.
This show was so bad especially for young girl's esteems. Incredibly contradictory and bully vibes. Ridiculous how they were treated, also the race swaping is insane...
Man, the way this show aged poorly 😭
The girl at 4:51 telling her she’s obviously not doing what it takes is the exact kind of person to end up exploited, abused and taken advantage of. That girl was smart for standing up for herself and what she felt was right. “I’m gonna wanna see confidence, like you’re comfortable in your own skin..almost like you have clothes on”😐Maybe someone once told him the same thing..
This was low key the bgc for inspiring models
the toxic environment
the the hierarchy in the cast
all of it is too familiar
I still cannot believe they put one of the white models in blackface.
Great video, My sisters and cousins use to watch this show, If Tyra said what she said about being Homeless for a day during the height of the social media era, she would've gotten destroyed. This show wouldn't last a season if it were made these days. Tyra herself would've gotten cancelled.
I love the start of your videos, so nostalgic.
If those girls are literally stopping photoshoots to tell you how uncomfortable they felt with those creepy men around, Tyra and production should have kicked the men off set immediately. It’s actually painful looking back on what these poor women went through my goodness 😣😖 to think this was the SHOW to watch growing up!!
And then Mr. Jay having to tell the male models to ease up on the groping during Keenyah's photo shoot...shouldn't that be setting alarm bells off?
@@NYChica23 exactly!! 😕😕
I hate how Mr. Jay tried to push all the blame on Tyra. Being CREATIVE DIRECTOR, he was just as problematic, if not more so.
Exactly! You're one of the ones that created those photo shoots... I don't know why he's trying to play victim now.
Tyra was taking all her anger out from Naomi Campbell on her contestants.
These girls were abused for entertainment. And we all, as well as them, thought it was “what they had to do to make it”. I don’t blame the girls or the viewers, I blame the producers, Tyra, and the other judges. They had no compassion whatsoever.
I was gagged when he told that girl: Think Gia!
That made me jump! So awful.
2000s reality TV was all about being as trashy as possible to get a rise out of people.
She just found out her friend died!
But she brought it in the picture. 😂😂😂😂 girl what?!
ANTM was really just humiliation kink.
They could have done that grave photoshoot literally ANYWHERE
you can’t even tell they were in an actual grave- could have done it with cgi walls. They tortured her for views
There was no cgi back then
@@dejeriyoung9872 yes there was
@@dejeriyoung9872 Considering computer animation in the motion picture industry started out in the 90s, there definitely was CGI back then
I had to take breaks while watching this video... I felt such a level of discomfort and cringe. Poor girls
Cast of judges is a nightmare blunt rotation
I felt so sad for Jada! She should not have had to kiss a RACIST! Like what?!
i use to love this show as a teen. it's so problematic and pisses me off. tyra was a bully instead of actually teaching modeling and empowering these women. in the end she was just there for the views
RIP Jael. ❤
Tyra Banks is evil !! 😂
They way that Jay does not give AF AT ALL 😤 when the ladies are clearly uncomfortable or vulnerable PISSES me off!! Like he looks like he genuinely does not care. Crazy.
Tyra Is The Type That Throws Rocks And Hides Her Hands.
ANTM was tasteless. Shame on Tyra and production.
Ugh so many of these episodes are disgusting, but the ones that always get me is Jayla.
Like not only being in the situation with this disgusting racist man, but telling the people around you, WHO ARE ALSO BLACK, and them being so nonchalant. The misogynior that Tyra and the rest of the cast perpetuated is so obvious and unbearable to watch. I can't even imagine being in these girls shoes, having it broadcast to the world.
Gen X (Tyra, Diddy) had us millennials looking CRAZY. Count your dayyyyssss 😭
Jay manuel is just as guilty dont let him slide. Tyra was constantly throwing shade at naomi.
This was my show back in the day! Even my mom loved it. I think we all believed that it was fake ( kind of like wrestling) because who would voluntarily put themselves through all this for a modeling contract that may not materialize? When I learned that these women were tricked and taken advantage of and mistreated, I was so disappointed. Being entertained by someone else’s pain was a real eye opener and a big regret. Thank you for another amazing video❤️
I now understand why a lot of contestants (even winners) stopped modelling either right after or some time after. Sure didn't help that the models were ironically at a disadvantage from just appearing on the show.
I loved your commentary on this. This show was very popular in my age group my senior year of high school (08-09) and we watched alllll winter break. I remember that triggering a lot of self confidence issues 😢
But on a better note as far as your video goes, I loved it all and especially the outro. By far my fave
Insane how the model was forced to work with that creepy dude while he was visibly physically excited 45:36 . She should have also sued.
Its like they were sociopaths on that show
Man! This show has not aged well
Yes it has! What you are saying is what the Modeling industry is like behind closed doors
I can’t believe I used to love coming home from school and watching this show 😅 says a lot
Never realised how problematic this show was when I was younger even going as far as saying that the models should suck it and work its not that bad. Now im much older Tyra and the rest of her team were really evil. It actually crazy how long this show lasted without people trynna sue the show.
Wow looking back this show was actually HORRIBLE! Every photoshoot they did was outrageous!!!