PRE ARRIVAL Working Structure Fire Toms River NJ 1-21-24
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- Опубликовано: 21 янв 2024
- Location: 14 St John Ave Toms River
Call Description: Chimney Fire / House Fire
Units In Video: 2801 2865 2806 2829 5311 2931 2913 2624 (2705)
Date Filmed: January 21 2024
Additional Info: 2700 was first to arrive on scene of what was reported to be a chimney fire with flames showing from the top of the chimney and advised there was heavy fire showing on the delta side and transmitted the working fire. 2800 assumed command and requested 2865 to roll first out. 5311 was first to arrive and allowed 65 to take the front of the structure while they tagged a hydrant and laid in. 2865's crew stretched an 1 3/4 line to knock down the exterior fire while the crew from 5311 stretched a second line to the attic to knock down the fire that had extended to the top floor. All occupants were out of the home on the arrival of FD and there were no injuries reported. Stations 25,26,28,&29 operated on scene while 2705 covered the East side of TR.
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What amazes me with each house fire in RUclips videos, is the fact that you can almost set your watch for ten minutes before one drop of water ever hits the house on a structure fire.
What are you talking about?
They had water on the fire less than 60 seconds after the first pumper arrived
"Let's cover the chimney in vinyl siding! Brilliant!"
Siding had nothing to do with ignition point
It’s a prefab fireplace, not masonary. Most of them are like this now
Prefab fireplace. Exterior is boxed out as a chase for usually 18" double wall chimney pipe (wood burning FP) from fireplace to above roof line. Vinyl siding the chase box is perfectly legal
Cheap labor will do that.
Bunch of know it all's. You should run for president
Have a competent gas technician check your gas logs and a chimney sweep to verify the internal chimney structure every year or at most two. When we purchased our old house the chimney in the living room was used for a wood burner. We immediately had both fireplace boxes and the chimneys looked at and found the previous owners had been burning wood inside of a box that was highly compromised (you could see the interior walls inside holes in the box!) AND one of the chimneys going through the attic had lost a great deal of its mortar and you could see where smoke had been coming out of the chimney and into the attic. I’m amazed the house did not burn down but of course we have completely remedied all problems because I don’t want my house to burn down. Fireplaces are pretty and can aide in keeping you warm, but not at the expense of your, your family’s lives or your possessions.
Thank you, firefighters for your selfless service!
We ran into the same problem............
yup me too. chimney guy told me to not use it. or get it lined. OR get a direct vent gas fireplace
@@mib20000 Yes, it’s expensive to have an old fireplace brought up to code so after extensive brick work, we opted to go the vented fire logs route. I just couldn’t bring myself to burn wood in them again!
Bingo. Get that creosote and junk out of there.
Excellent discretion and restraint choosing to open the windows instead of busting them out.
Try before you pry!
I was gonna say that!🤜🤛
I was thinking the same thing, since they are fully open type of windows, opening or breaking would have had the same result. I'm glad they didn't break the peoples windows, they will have enough to deal with.
isn't there an insurance?@@adrastos761
Yes! Have witnessed some bad moves on the fire ground.
that was a great stop of the fire. they saved the house from being a total loss. from a 24 year fire vet
Agreed
I remember back in the 70's and 80's when they began permitting these faux chimneys using steel or stainless smoke pipe enclosed with wood frame and siding to match the home. I always thought these would be the source of what we see here. I'm sure there are many in existence that haven't caused problems (yet). At least a masonry stack offers some protection from destroying combustible material adjacent to it. Not sure how these got past fire inspectors over the years. Some insurance companies refuse to cover loss from these or any other wood burning device.
developers with deep pockets and greedy politicians lead to lax building codes.
These fake chimneys work ok for a fake gas log fire. A wood fire creates more heat and soot. Since the liners are too rough they collect soot easily. When it ignites, the liner burns through in seconds since it is so thin.
Cheaper for the builder
I just built a house in 2022 and I am glad I insisted on a masonary chimney am I ever glad I did.
It's all about $$$$@@donaldsmith7047
Really great response by the firefighters. Very thorough in making sure the fire was totally out.
Similar fire happened in my neighborhood. 1980’s modular fireplace will a double wall flue had a compromised flue. Majority of the house had to replaced. It was suspected that the flue was originally damaged when installed in 1983. Ironically, I had the fireplace and flue in my house professionally cleaned and inspected just ten days prior. The flue and fireplace in my house was given a status report of very good and safe to use.
Lesson learned - keep the fireplace and flue on a regular schedule for cleaning and inspection.
Heck of a way to remember to clean the chimney!
Here’s how a normal chimney fire gets fought in Germany. As long as the roof hasn’t caught on, you set the aerial up, sweep the chimney with a chimney broom and collect and cool the ashes that come out of the revision opening at the bottom. Labor intensive, but only for the ff standing in the aerial bucket.
Let's stop and hope everyone is doing ok right let's stop and honor and appreciate the paramedics and firemen who proudly serve us your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated thanks great job great team work and good catches as usual please don't work to hard appreciate you guys thanks you guys rock way to stay safe and warm out there way to it's a tough job you do it well thanks !!! Joe
Great job boys!!! Quick knockdown on arrival!! Minimizing damage is the name of our game. Try to protect as many of the family possessions as possible with minimal risk to life and health. Great job.
Great job everyone 👏👍
Great video coverage as always. And the FD did a great job.
I Hope Everybody Is Okay Awesome Job And Awesome Video😊
No injuries thankfully
@@demonracer2 That's Good News
Glad everyone was able to get out in time, and that there were no injuries to anyone related to this incident.
Those flames were really climbing up the side of that house, but once they opened up that hand line,they knocked it down quick ( great job guys)
Thank you to all firefighters everywhere for protecting the citizens of your coverage area.
Well said
@@demonracer2 thank you
Awesome video. Great job...🤗🤗
Thank you!
Thanks for sharing this
Thank you for watching
I hope everyone made it out safe and ok. Things can be replaced not your life
what an amazing job well done
I commend the decision to place the first application of water in that opening to the attic to let that water expand and knock down the bulk of the fire in that space. Then the FF quickly directed the stream to the chimney chase. The attic space being a large open space with a probable natural vent above is a good situation for a fog application where no occupants are likely to be and no FFs are interior yet. The chimney chase also is a natural vertical vent that can draw the bad stuff back out the top. Brilliant first attack!!
Speed that fire spread. Modern houses....
great work by everyone around
Definitely! Thanks for watching!
I hope that the homeowners can recover from this.
600k. Home
Nice knockdown! Another house is largely saved thanks to you.
Well said
Nice work guys keep it up
Thanks for watching
Such a shame? It’s a beautiful house! “ looks to be a Chimney Fire?” Hope no one was injured!
Fire dept; did a good job controling and putting fire out. God bless.😊
Yes, thank you
Looks like a beautiful house, glad they were able to save it.
that house is lost....
It's junk windows upstars don't even open, plastic siding no overhang wood frame fireplace
Good job on the fire crews in getting that under control quickly. Hopefully its not a total loss. That later part of the vid really shows how quickly vinyl siding goes in a fire. Seen that several times in these types of vids where the neighbors house has their vinyl melt off the exterior - have to wonder if a more durable exterior like fiber cement would have withstood the radiant heat without any substantial damage.
Fiber cement siding would be an excellent fire barrier and not melt with radiant heat.
@@dougdiplacido2406 I have fiber cement on my house and it has its own set of issues...I regret installing it.
Well yeah....do you think cement board would hold up better than vinyl?
❤😂😂😂😂😅❤😂😂😅😅great job great team work and great and sweet catches as usual still going strong they deserve alot of credit tons of it let's stop and honor and appreciate the paramedics and firemen and police who proudly serve us your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated thanks stay safe and warm out there lets stop and hope everyone is doing ok right god bless you guys thanks you guys rock way to go very impressed thanks !!! Joe ❤😂😂
Who’s the jerk complaining about the fire dept at about 01:51
Disgruntled citizens
they are always out there.@@demonracer2
@@demonracer2maybe he should join the department and show them how it's done since he's an expert.
I know.. i was thinking... gee, they got water on the fire and were in overhaul mode at 3 minutes in....
people that don't pay a dime in taxes... fat bastards looking for their welfare check. @@demonracer2
Dang great footage!
Thank you very much!
Good Job. Nice stop.
All in all these fire companies did a hell of a good job considering how much fire there was and the cheap construction. Hats off to you all.
Nice work guys!
Quick, effective initial exterior attack. Nicely done.
That fire should have been completely knocked down in the first minute oof arrival. Take note of the editing in the video. You were saying?
This sucks for the homeowner but on a positive note you can still hear the fire alarms sounding off the whole time, which is a good thing.
What good are the fire alarms when the fire ''Fighters'' ARE CRAPP shit
Great job the crews did. Transitional attack from the exterior to reset the fire quickly to get it under control & then went interior for extension extinguishment! 👍
Thanks for watching
Translation...they squirted water on it and it went out.
lol 1. This isn’t a transitional attack. 2. The response time is despicable as the cops and chiefs are on seen fiddling their thumbs. These guys were under a minute from losing this house
@@bobbys1984 how can you criticise a response time when you have no idea where they have responded from or what distance they have had to travel to get there?
@@Rmfiriebecause there are chiefs, cops, and non emergency civilian with a camera on scene for hours before they got there. Not too mention, the volunteer model is existentially much slower.
Awesome video
Thanks!!
Very quick action!!! We really need to get better building materials.
Great video
Thanks!!
Why are people ragging on Tom's River? They did an excellent job here. Got water on the fire quickly once they had a truck on scene, almost immediately knocked down the exterior fire. Then got their supply line and pump, an interior attack going, and eventually got the chimney knocked over to help the interior team in the attic. This was a great example of how to get it right and they saved the house from a rapidly escalating fire. I'd say good job, guys! Show 'em how it's done!
Because they were under a minute from losing that house cause of terrible response time
@@bobbys1984you want them to fucking fly there?! Do you know where the company’s are? You know where the chief was? Fuck no you don’t. Lmaoooo. Dumb civilians
What was their response time?
@@jimmccabe801 have no clue, way longer than the cops and the civilian camera man lol 🤦🏻♂️
@@bobbys1984Where do you get your facts? Not from time of dispatch and travel time. Talk about clueless. That would be you.
To that loud-mouth in the beginning, this is what you have a well trained and well coordinated fire department for. Nice work here Toms River FD!
The” I can do it better” type. Hate those people
Everyone knows how to do the other guys job better.
They hit that hard wit the transitional attack did they have a line hit it from the interior on the 1-4 side aka Delta Side
Good department! In some of these videos, the fire would have gotten well into the roof and attic before any water hit it, resulting in far more damage, if not the loss of the house. I wonder why firemen who are in the house, ie: those working from the burned out window, don't have air masks on. I would think they would be asking for many health problems from inhaling smoke all the time.
The fire was already into the roof and attic idiot.
Finally a FD doing a great job. Well done
These are our true Heroes!!!
Good work. Saved the house, thought it was toast with wind at first. If you were 3-4 minutes later it would have been. When buying a house beside checking out the school system and stuff, also see how far the fire station and if volunteers (added response time).
with all the internal smoke damage home is a loss
how did it pass inspection ?
They did an excellent job getting that fire under control it's just a shame that people got to sit there and criticize the fire department when they don't have it they idea of what the hell they're talking about
It’s so much easier to fight a fire sitting on your couch!
@@Sea-cucumber1151 I have been a volunteer firefighter for 17 years I can't stand when people standing around criticizing the firefighters
He sounds super old
"Enjoy your remaining years!" Lol
@@mattiverson4654 yup!
@@mattiverson4654 Just consider the source.
Good stop Toms River!!!👍👍🙏🚒🚨
Great save boys
Is that a wood framed chimney?
Caught that just in time. Check your chimneys regularly!
Super fast extinguishing attack! (I was in a fire brigade for 27 years in Switzerland) Congratulations for the speed and calm work!
❤❤❤😂😂😅😅its a tough job you do it well thanks they deserve alot of credit tons of it let's stop and honor and appreciate the paramedics and firemen and police who proudly serve us your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated thanks great job great team work and great and sweet catches as usual hope everyone is doing ok right stay safe and warm out there way to go !! Joe
Seems the fire was started at the fireplace but for a framed two story home that fire was contained. I’ve seen homes completely engulfed in the same conditions and the time it took to extinguish.
I had 2 chimney fires yesterday, this looks like one as well. Great catch
Thank you
You need to clean your chimneys. You should know better.
@@RLTtizME my local fire departement went to one place 3 time in two days for a chimney fire, the guy would just relight his furnace as soon as the fire trucks left without cleaning his chimney, they told him he would receive a rather large fine if they where called again.
@@RLTtizME huh
@@javorisscott4288 You had two chimney fires in a row. Come on man...call a chimney sweep. Geez.
Definitely looks like the chimney was the problem. Not sure if it was a chimney fire or a faulty stovepipe. Thanks.
Great job! On Wisconsin! Where most of those fire apparatus were born😊
Yes and their nice to look at but their not reliable. They don’t make quality apparatus anymore.
@@Fire84569 That‘s what I am hearing lately...corporate USA, a once privately owned company who was proud to manufacture a quality product obtained by a publicly held corporation where shareholder profits matter the most.
Looks pretty clear where that fire started.
Oshot oh my goshah wow wee that’s yesterday ok 🙏 thank you please 🙏 my home got lost n first floudded then forgotten then next one sold omg icoulnd t imagined yup
??? Someone let their kid do the typing here?
Modern construction, If that was a brick chimney need I say more. It will be a year before they will be able to move in again
Good to see them getting water on the fire fast.
I realize a fire is a traumatic experience for all involved and apparently for some not involved but, these brave men and women risk life and limb everyday. It takes time to get to a fire and hooked up to a water source. They do not need the negativity going on in the background.
Good fast response from the Firefighters, they put the fire out quick and saved the home..But I've seen too many times, or should I say videos, of a poor response time, and even after 5 minutes on the scene they still haven't put water on the fire, and a total lack of urgency in evidence by the crew too. But these responders did a really good job.
I hope the house and most of its contents were salvageable. I’m sure even if there was minimal fire damage, there’s probably a lot of smoke and water damage. I’m glad no one was hurt though.
Why does initial attack send the tanker and water canon?
When they build those chases for the fireplace flues they should put firestops every few feet to prevent this type of spread.
they use double or triple wall pipe,but many times people have chmney fires several times that they either are unaware of or shrug off which warps the pipe.. the chimney sweep i use says its amazing how many prefab fireplace chimneys he finds that have had previous chomney fires and are damaged.. many of these units dont have glass doors so if a resident is home and a chomney fire breaks out they have no way to slow the air to the chimney.. FD did a nice job of getting water on the fire... those chaseways go up fast.. to those criticizing the FD here.. really? they got on scene.. had a line going to the exterior quick.. kept the door closed till the yhad a line ready for an interior attack.. ade it to the second floor and got the fire out before the window blinds in that front fire room even melted.. they opened the house windows rather than smash them...
I have noticed any fire's in New Jersey the house's burn to the ground every single house
Just curious, why wasnt there a crew on the roof venting it? Its SOP out here west coast. Is it because of colder weather there?
With a working fire , firefighters NEVER go on the roof until they know that there isn't any extension inside the structure because the roof may be compromised and they would fall through if they step a foot on it.
@josephbennett3482 I see it done often. They sound it as they walk it. Just odd not venting it.
The comment that replied to you is 100% false. Command asked the interior crew if they needed the roof vented but they said they did not as the extension into the second floor and attic had already been k/d. So to prevent anymore damage the decision was made to not vent the roof. If needed though crews would have vented unlike what Joseph stated
All venting does is make the fire grow faster. Fires won't burn without oxygen, ever heard the term fanning the flames. So in other words if you want the house to burn down fast you cut a hole in the roof.....any questions?
When they pulled the chimney down at 9:49 the pike pole came down with it and slotted itself neatly into the fence
Nice job
Thanks!
As I said didn't know what was burning. I think a lot of problems seem to be the use of timber for a lot of the buildings, however this is getting more prevalent in England. Pleased that you have strict codes of practice regarding construction. I worked all my life in the civil engineering industry and the codes there were forever changing.
i know the house wont be liveable for a while but looks like they saved most of it.
Looks like an annual chiminey service from a pro would have been WELL worth the price.
maintenance is always well worth the price
Less than 15 secs in. Bet this building burnt down. Let’s see. In the time it has taken me to write this European firefighters would have water on the fire
More luck than judgment that it didn’t
@@edotoole6604 Yea this is America, we don't get too excited and wait for trucks to arrive. We walk and don't run so there is no exhaustion and we extinguish. Its just a home. We replace them in a situation like this if they cant be repaired. Once again its only a home and everyone walked away safely.
@@PudinTane-gc4dn I don't know the first thing about firefighting, but I'm curious how the fatality/injury rate differs from US firefighters and ones outside the US. I always see debates in comment sections about the seeming lack of urgency among US ff compared to other places and I have seen videos where response and action times seem to be woefully slow.
A US department with decent tactics, a rare thing
Beautiful home.
This area of Toms River is filled with many beautiful water front homes
To firefighters which I'm not, what's the difference between a working structure fire and just a structure fire?
No difference, just different uses of terminology. But they mean the exact same thing. Same goes for working fire / structure fire or combining the two
Great knockdown fire departments involved! I like seeing fire departments as you all did when you come off your apparatus you immediately go to work with stretching lines and place water on the fire!!!
No.28 and the following arriving did an awesome job getting water on that thing upon arrival! Sweet video coverage too!
I agree, but a lot of times that is not the case...
There was a chimney fire a few days ago in Charlottesville.
A common call in the winter time
No way!! Really? Any details ?
@@demonracer2 a lot of people neglect to get their chimney cleaned every year.. or they over-fire their prefab fireplaces burning cardboard, christmas paper, etc.. or ignore previous chimney fires. a good prefab fireplace can take a chimney fire and not cause a structure fire.. but the metal flue within will need replaced after an event.. they warp and arent safe after a chimney fire event.. people will ignore it thinking "it burned itself out" and continue to use the fireplace.. if another chomney fire happens the inner wall of the pipe will often fail at the joints and let sparks into the chaseway..
Compliments for the fire crew. Excellent job. Can't say that of the architect of that house. What a tasteless 'design'.
Talking about design, isn't the whole idea of chimney's that we build them out of fireproof bricks?
there were no bricks at all. They make these cheap cookie-cutter houses in developments and sub out some of the builds. That chimney was framed by wood and a double-walled stainless pipe was used for the flue. when the fireman was pulling the frame down you can see the pipe inside the frame. The pipe is in 3 foot sections. maybe one of the sections wasnt tight or they never cleaned it out.
Very fast attack on arrival. Folks in your community should be proud (and feel safe) knowing you have an excellent department with great skills.
😂😂 hope you’re joking
@@bobbys1984less then 60 seconds from first arriving engine, I hope your joking
@@cjritchie9701 lol I hope you’re joking.. only god knows how long it took those vollies to get that truck their after this fire was initially reported.. the cops and a civilian camera man on scene for eternity before they arrived.
@@bobbys1984Here's a know it all.
I don’t know much, but I do know it’s bad when the camera man is on scene significantly longer than the firefighters.
Good stop, fellas.
They definitely did a good job with this one
Kind of curious why there was a fire in the fireplace if no one was home.
Nice hit!
My hometown's fire department was responding to a fire in a trash compactor today, I sure hope everybody in that house got out
That was quick 😊
Nice to see a building still standing, don't know what was burning but well done to these crews good job. From UK
Chimney fire. Poorly maintained fireplace, and a terrible design of a non-masonry chimney built from - wait for it - timber and vinyl.
Seems to me that a better form of building control is required in America. On the whole in the UK buildings have to be constructed to meet the fire requirements to prevent spread.
@@alanchandler254things like this are not commonplace here, we have incredibly strict building codes here with very very extensive details on what you can and can't do. I'm not sure if this specific installation was to code or if it was done without a permit, but this is not even 1 millionth of a percent of how we actually build buildings here. Its not a europe vs america thing in this case its the contractor or person who built that attachment. The fact that it's covered in vinyl siding and is made of timber means that it most likely had a chimney liner on the inside which is perfectly safe, however this one could have been installed incorrectly and failed. That is if this fire was even caused because of a fireplace failure, it could have been electrical too
Ground ladders, ground ladders, ground ladders! Crews working the interior you need to ladder the structure
Nice knock guys.
Great job! And at least they open windows rather than smash them all out! That’s what can happen when you don’t want to pay for chimney repairs…..👍
Good job unusual for me to say that normally the structure on fire is destroyed before they get water on the fire but good to see quick water response this team need to teach other fire responders that water puts fires out & not running around like headless chickens as most of them do.
Decent job guys saved the lives and some personal items but the house idk
I assume the fire was mostly exterior?
Though a deck gun may have saved a few moments (acknowledging quicker tank deletion), it was a fairly quick knockdown with the handline.
Excellent photography, Demon. You have absolutely stepped up your game.
Thank you, there was moderate extension into the attic space
They don’t use a deck gun or the canon, because first if anyone or pets are inside the steam would burn them to a crisp, second the canon or deck gun is so strong it can rip the house apart. They needed to go inside and see how far it extended and clear the house. So even if they did put it out with the canon without taking a hand line inside it would have spread in the interior beside like I said tearing the house apart. Usually when you are at that point it’s no longer safe to be inside. They called everyone with the sirens because you don’t want them inside if they could be affected by the gun or to alert them to its use to stay clear. They alerted just to tearing down the fireplace. If they honk 3 times I believe it’s unstable and dangerous get out. My SIL is a firefighter so don’t quote me one it all but those are things I have gathered. Just saying if you watch enough videos you will see the damage done by them.
And if they just put it out outside and not entered it would have crept within the walls and attic. 😢
The house directly behind me burned down because of one of these pipe-inside-wood-framed-box fireplaces.
Question ? Would a smaller truck that could arrive in the same time frame as the chief’s vehicle reduce the extent of damage ?
Other than paying for a paid staff how do you suppose a quicker response time from a vehicle with an onboard water supply would work?
Good stop brothers !
For sure!
I follow some Dutch firefighters!
You wont believe how much water it takes to put out a fire!
Imagine a windy day, or just that calm Wind came from the opposite direction🫣 This House Can be saved!! I hope!!!