What can a BJJ white belt do besides survive?

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  • Опубликовано: 22 фев 2024
  • Q&A with the coach
    What can a Jiu-Jitsu white belt do besides just hold on for dear life when rolling with more experienced grapplers?
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  • @hendrikmoons8218
    @hendrikmoons8218 3 месяца назад +24

    There are simple things for white belts to do to improve:
    1. Do not spaz => you cannot learn when spazing and your opponents will hate training with you.
    2. Learn technique, do not compensate with power.
    3. You are not here for competition, that is for later down the BJJ path.
    4. Avoid the tournament players that are just there to 'smash' other folk, at this point, little to learn from them, wait until you are at least blue.
    5. If you and your partner can dial down the need for strength and learn to 'fluid roll' you can greatly improve your technique.
    6. Since you are supposed to lose anyways, do not turtle up all the time, attack. Few wars are ever won in defence, it is there to buy you time, create you an opportunity.
    7. Find training partners you are comfortable rolling with that are on your level or just above.
    8. Find a training partner that technique wise is way better than you and is willing to 'go gentle' with you and makes you commit to attacking.
    9. Work on your conditioning, you are gonna gas out if you do not control your breathing and stamina. So you also do not 'waste' 15 min warm up running you could have done OUTSIDE of BJJ training.
    10. It helps to be fit, so lift some weights when on your own, not at BJJ.
    This works for any JJ, so BJJ/Judo/Sambo, most grappling.
    Have fun and like RD sensei says, now go out there and train...

    • @Theshaman12
      @Theshaman12 3 месяца назад +1

      Great comment, thanks

    • @bestgirl3380
      @bestgirl3380 3 месяца назад +1

      I notice that I control my breathing during running, and sometimes during warm ups, but it goes out the window when I actually start to go at it with an opponent. I do think i'm in a better boat praacticing my breathing anyway, even doing wim hof breathing exercises, i think overall i'm able to last longer, but it would be nice to be able to consciously do it as well when the action happens.

    • @TaijDevon
      @TaijDevon 3 месяца назад

      I would add, the better you are at martial arts the better you are at taking care of sparring opponents. You owe them, even beginners, for they make you better. Given you can sort of blast a blue belt usually, he or sometimes even she can avoid damage if you spar clean. I sort of undermined my point accidentally, because screw the belt, you will know very quick when you touch them who you are contesting with.

  • @Apuryo
    @Apuryo 3 месяца назад +15

    I saw once on RUclips that each belt has a purpose : white is survival, blue is escapes, purple is working off your back, brown is passing guard, and black is when they get into offense. In my opinion, I think that a wrestling with submissions is a better strategy, as you can learn many fundamentals at once.

    • @HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
      @HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed 3 месяца назад

      It all depends on the school. A belt system is a way to yearly schedule finances with the students.
      The belt system is nothing more than a way of making money

    • @williambarton5681
      @williambarton5681 3 месяца назад +1

      @@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed Only if the gym charges for grading and new belts. In my gym this is already included in the monthly price.

    • @RicoMnc
      @RicoMnc 3 месяца назад +2

      That list: "survival, escapes..." etc. are some of the usual guides offered in RUclips videos about "what should I be working on?", but they are not necessarily representative of what is taught, trained or required for each belt, depends on the school, instructor etc.
      At my school we are taught there are not white belt and black belt techniques, but there is execution of a techniques at white through black belt level ability. All belts are instructed and trained for all positions from the start.

    • @Apuryo
      @Apuryo 3 месяца назад

      @@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeedI think that the belt system is for people who are not serious. For example, older adults (casuals) and children. It is merely a reward system. Also, the time based approach is reasonable as it is just the average time one requires to become that level. The problem with not having a belt system at a gym for casuals, is that not only do you have to teach them techniques, but you have to also explain to them what "improving" means. It is especially annoying to educate children about this. This is why I think that a belt system is great for those who are not trying to compete. If they are trying to compete, then the belt is obviously irrelevant. Even then, many competitions are based on experience level, something which can be easily defined by a belt. Also, fight gyms make much less money than martial arts gyms. There is a pertinent distinction. Most gym owners are exploring the lucrative option.

    • @HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
      @HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed 3 месяца назад +2

      @@Apuryo I agree 👍 each individual is different with different ability capabilities strength and genetics.

  • @BMO_Creative
    @BMO_Creative 3 месяца назад +5

    Fundamentals... 1. relax- breath control 2. Offense - because it seems funner! LOL 3. Defense - Shrimping and Bridging, escaping side control

  • @Parostem
    @Parostem 3 месяца назад +1

    Loved the video Ramsey! I used to do BJJ as a teenager, and oddly enough our teacher intentionally did some of the things you mentioned at the end of the video (starting/staying on the knees and not teaching submissions to white belts). His reasoning was that since we had a wide age range of teenagers going from 13 to 18 who all wrestled with each other, he felt he needed extra precautions to keep things relatively safe. You would start wrestling on our knees as white belts, and as you progressed through the belts you "unlocked" stand up wrestling, armbars, and chokes. Belt requirements were partly about skill, but also about how responsible you were with your training partners. As you may know, teenagers are not always known for having the most self control in the world, and he wanted to make sure nobody would overdo an armbar because they were angry from something that happened at school that day, or feel too proud to tap out from a choke. It wasn't a super competetive place (he actually had a couple of local gyms he would recommend to students who wanted to get more serious with their training) but I still think he made the right call regarding those rules.

  • @localrudeboy4987
    @localrudeboy4987 3 месяца назад +2

    Leg locks. I'm a white belt and I started leglocking after a year of training and my time on the mats has gotten so damn fun

  • @Apuryo
    @Apuryo 3 месяца назад +4

    I think we should use a data driven approach. white belts should be practicing things that occur 90% of the time, blue belts 70% of the time etc and only black belts should be working on obscure positions.

    • @Apuryo
      @Apuryo 3 месяца назад +1

      @@lucianooscarmasciulli6200 you start with jabs, crosses and low kicks
      then you teach blocks
      work your way up with high % techniques

  • @appelster11
    @appelster11 3 месяца назад +1

    Coming at this from a judo and 'traditional' jiu jitsu background (brown belt in both, as well as assistant trainer for youth up to 12 years old), I have found that especially early on (say white to orange belt ish) knee wrestling is a decent way to train wrestling for grip dominance (getting a grip deep in the lapel while denying your opponent a good deep grip, or getting control of your opponent's sleeve while denying him/her the same control) which is a relevant skill to develop for the stand-up game as well, while eliminating a lot of the fright of falling hard that some newcomers to the sport often have. Simultaneously it usually transitions relatively quickly to a more relevant ground game position (side control, full guard, half guard, etc.), so you often get enough practice there as well. I see your point of it not being a position that will happen in a real fight, but to write it off as therefore a poor training exercise seems too harsh to me. It definitely shouldn't be the only sparring/rolling mode you train, but I feel that it still has its place in training, at least for sports involving a gi. Side benefit of this was that with judo training we usually were practicing with 5 or 6 pairs of training partners at the same time, so logistically it was safer to not mix stand-up with ground game to lower the risk of people being thrown on top of one another, and by starting from the knees you start out from an equal position where you can ensure roughly equal odds for both partners. We often tried to split sparring sessions 70/30 between stand-up and ground game. I've been out of the running for a while and no longer train or teach at that same school (recently found out it doesn't even exist anymore), but since a few months I've gotten back into japanese jiu jitsu, and the new school that I am now training at sadly does precious little sparring. We practice a lot of techniques under resistance though, which is similar, but nowhere near the same intensity. Hope that changes sometime in the future...

  • @marcusholbert2525
    @marcusholbert2525 3 месяца назад +4

    Hey Ramsey, what are your thoughts on the UFC post the 4 billion dollars sale? I haven’t been as interested, seemed like everyone was just trying to copy McGregor. The fighter respect went down, became more about the show. Would love to hear your thoughts on it.

    • @HerculesLoyd
      @HerculesLoyd 3 месяца назад

      The UFC has been going in that direction for like a decade now. Personally I don’t pay my mind to the promotion, it’s done for the casual fans and I’ve been hooked my entire life, they don’t need to sell me the fights. The level of skill in the ufc has constantly been increasing and that’s all that matters imo.

  • @ed1726
    @ed1726 3 месяца назад +1

    BJJ has a kind of interesting mindset (martial arts in general). There is an expectation of constant gradual improvement. Everyone gets their black belt if they put in the time. Certainly if you go down the gym you will see your numbers rise. If you start running you will notice you are getting faster. But in the real world you top out, you get older, unless you are a pro athlete (or even if you are) there comes a day when your expectation of constant improvement is not realistic. But does this mean you should stop running or going to the gym or training BJJ? I have played a lot of football, I am not particularly good, I did not improve much beyond a certain point. But I still loved playing football. It depends on your goals but BJJ can be the same. Cliché I know, but enjoy the journey.
    My only other advise is no one cares if you tapped them or they tapped you. So relax.

  • @RicoMnc
    @RicoMnc 3 месяца назад

    I look for videos of what I've already learned, something I can watch and say to myself, "I've been there, I know what that feels like" and try to learn some detail or concept about it I may have missed or needs some improvement.

  • @Yautja297
    @Yautja297 3 месяца назад

    Hey Ramsey, I have a question about the knee bar submission.
    I have seen several videos of how to apply one, but rarely have I seen it used in competition. It seems to me that you see the heel hook more often.
    Is the knee bar as potent a submission as a heel hook, do you need a lot more force to injure someone with a knee bar?
    A friend of mine and I roll on a regular basis and our general rule is to tap soon, especially on leg attacks. Whenever I applied the knee bar in a drill, it felt awkward and the tap came mostly on the basis of "not sure whether it's on, but I don't wanna risk it".
    So how easy is it to injure someone with a knee bar?
    Thank you for your time and greetings from Germany!

  • @princexerakugo7335
    @princexerakugo7335 3 месяца назад +1

    Hey ramsey id like your opinion,
    Should we dominate beginners lightly to let them learn?
    how to move in sparring and take a back seat and be more passive?

  • @user-uy6bc1xs3z
    @user-uy6bc1xs3z 3 месяца назад

    Are you going to do a punching technique comparison I asked for . It’s same person but different account

  • @mynameismynameis666
    @mynameismynameis666 3 месяца назад

    so what? surviving is enough for a full playthrough... forever whitebelt!

  • @badart3204
    @badart3204 3 месяца назад

    I would say working on holding people down in positions is something productive you can do as a white belt. Once you have a really suffocating top control adding the submissions becomes far more viable due to having more time to practice them due to said top control. Obviously be reasonable and don’t just stall in mount or side control for eternity doing nothing

  • @deemc7756
    @deemc7756 3 месяца назад +1

    😮

  • @Ema-nuel
    @Ema-nuel 3 месяца назад

    i just got my blue belt but i have at least a purple belt in scrambling.

  • @helvete_ingres4717
    @helvete_ingres4717 3 месяца назад

    I've definitely surprised some blue-belts. That being said, I wonder ow worthwhile it is to train escaping a rear mount versus training not getting put into rear mount in the first place? 'train positions that give you trouble' but some positions would give anyone trouble, and they do say prevention is better than cure

  • @flamingjob2
    @flamingjob2 3 месяца назад

    To a man on the street without bjj background a white belt is a black belt

  • @billzy750
    @billzy750 3 месяца назад

    Ramsay, what do you think about a BJJ match starting standing with Judo rules?

    • @RamseyDewey
      @RamseyDewey  3 месяца назад +1

      Well, that would be judo.

    • @RamseyDewey
      @RamseyDewey  3 месяца назад +1

      All BJJ matches start standing, by the way.

    • @langsnek07
      @langsnek07 3 месяца назад

      @@RamseyDewey not necessarily it would be a rule set that accommodates both types of grapplers freestyle judo sort of does this whe bjj and judo spar each other its actually a flip of a coin who wins and loses
      Personally i think both should be practiced

    • @RamseyDewey
      @RamseyDewey  3 месяца назад

      So what would be the difference between a match with judo rules, and judo?

  • @highvalence7649
    @highvalence7649 3 месяца назад

    Can cross training in sanda make you better at mma? Would it be a good idea to cross train in sanda in order to become better at mma?

    • @mynameismynameis666
      @mynameismynameis666 3 месяца назад +2

      no, you should never crosstrain. and if so, then only curling and bowling

    • @cahallo5964
      @cahallo5964 3 месяца назад

      ​@@mynameismynameis666☝️

    • @bestgirl3380
      @bestgirl3380 3 месяца назад +1

      A lot of things can make you better at MMA if you are able to apply certain techniques and logic into your game, me thinks.

    • @highvalence7649
      @highvalence7649 3 месяца назад +1

      @@mynameismynameis666 of course. Didnt you know curling and bowling are the best bases for mma

    • @highvalence7649
      @highvalence7649 3 месяца назад

      @@bestgirl3380 right. But im wondering if that time would be better spent doing something like wrestling or muay Thai or boxing or BJJ, or just mma for that matter, rather than sanda

  • @emmanuelzozobrado5981
    @emmanuelzozobrado5981 3 месяца назад +1

    the white belt can claw around....if you don't choke him first

    • @TheBrazilianHue
      @TheBrazilianHue 3 месяца назад

      Yep. As a white belt myself with a little bit of MMA background, I noticed that most people won't give me any chance, fighting for their lives... which is funny, cause all I want to do is learn, so I don't really mind being taken to bad positions.

  • @adamsmith577
    @adamsmith577 Месяц назад

    I get smashed all the time by blue belts because I'm training at a competition gym. They never sub me, but it's just constant smash , escape, pass my guard ,smash, escape guard pass. So, I'm working on guard retention,but it's my weakest part of my jj since lack of skill and my hip impingment. I just csnt get my knees close to my chest at all.

    • @RamseyDewey
      @RamseyDewey  Месяц назад

      Try a sitting up guard.

    • @adamsmith577
      @adamsmith577 Месяц назад

      @@RamseyDewey I'll give it a go today at class. Thanks.

  • @dsgdsg9764
    @dsgdsg9764 3 месяца назад

    I want your hat i lost my hat...

  • @sincityinfinity6255
    @sincityinfinity6255 3 месяца назад

    Unrelated question. In your opinion why is it that we don’t see many fighters in the ufc with a judo background

    • @RamseyDewey
      @RamseyDewey  3 месяца назад

      We have seen several hundred UFC fighters with a judo background. But that judo background tends to go under the radar and is usually eclipsed by their other skills sets.

    • @sincityinfinity6255
      @sincityinfinity6255 3 месяца назад

      Maybe I’m just not seeing it. I can only think of three. Ronda, Karo Parisian, hector Lombard. Maybe hector lombard didn’t start with judo or I have his name wrong.

    • @London2ATL
      @London2ATL 3 месяца назад

      ​@sincityinfinity6255 there's this Brasilian guy, Brunno Ferreira, middleweight. His Judo might be the best, watch his last fight with Phil Hawes to see great display of Judo.

    • @sincityinfinity6255
      @sincityinfinity6255 3 месяца назад

      @@London2ATL I’ll check him out

  • @Limbaugh_
    @Limbaugh_ 3 месяца назад +3

    They can bully lower white belts

  • @SuperJuniorquintero
    @SuperJuniorquintero 3 месяца назад

    Just wondering if you heard of the stories of the professional wrestler Haku? According to his peers, they say he's the toughest dude, outside the ring meaning he's the nicest when it comes to street fighting. Many of them claim that his fights are a type of a savage animal, meaning he bites off noses, and pop dudes eyes out. Probably the baddest and toughest man on Earth right now. Just wondering if you know any of his stories, and how do you see him in an all out street fight with someone of the likes of Rickson Gracie? Here's an idea of what I'm talking about: ruclips.net/video/L8XBNpTJpr4/видео.html

  • @langsnek07
    @langsnek07 3 месяца назад

    Pulling guard should be limited in bjj because I would not ever use it in a real fight but having to learn how to defend or escape from guard is essential in a real fight depending the situation pulling guard or but scooting makes a match boring a.f !

    • @London2ATL
      @London2ATL 3 месяца назад

      I f hate pulling guard. I'll never pull it. Either I take you down or you take me. It can be frustrating when we're rolling for 5 minutes and half of it we're trying to lock horns and take each other down but I just don't want to pull guard unless we're playing specific positions.

  • @CarlosVerdinOfficial
    @CarlosVerdinOfficial 3 месяца назад

    Isnt a dogfight, wrestling from your knees?

    • @RamseyDewey
      @RamseyDewey  3 месяца назад +1

      No. If you’re on your knees, you’re not wrestling, you’re crawling. Get off the knees and up on the toes.

  • @yvnginfinity
    @yvnginfinity 3 месяца назад

    Idk what type of gyms y’all go to but it seems like 40-50% of people are white belts at any time. Even on the first day in class I had someone I could roll hard with get close to landing something. I go to Louisville 10th planet for reference. It seems like everyone wants to let you work, I’ve only been smashed the whole time in 3 rolls out of 30 classes, and one I asked for

  • @henrygeiger8520
    @henrygeiger8520 3 месяца назад

    It’s pronounced: Shang-high

  • @Xzontyr
    @Xzontyr 3 месяца назад

    So, first off, I just need to share that I went to go add on something to my comment, and when I didn't see it here, I assumed that either I said something offensive or inappropriate, or had it reported, but when I investigated it, it got stranger. I didn't habe any sub windows, wasn't on any other videos, yet the comment was sent to a conpletely different martial artists' youtube page. So I'm pretty sure he's wondering what the heck this random rant is about, that has maybe %5 of its content related to what's going on in the video. Strange times youtube. Get yourself together, and stop sending me adhd adds if the AI is filtering this. Anyways, here was my comment. Some hard truths spoken here. I have a tough time understanding why some bjj gyms dont allow anyone to start from standing, or do leg locks until purple or brown belt in some cases, in fear of injury..... what did you come from, and what are other arts doing. Than you look at a sambo gym where there starting from stance every time on day one, aswell as getting knee barred the first week, and probably learning them in the first month. These are 12 year old to. Back in the day at our sambo gym, he wouldnt take on any student unless the were 12 or 13 after a while, even though he did train some others starting a very young age, but didnt allow them to do any striking. To him childhood and children were sacred and didnt believe they should be exibitioned. Much like Fedors belief. Being taught is different. Anyways, im not hating on jiu jitsu or anything, infact i reference jiu jitsu university quite often on my phone, even though i come from a sambo grappling base. I kind of laugh at these catch as cans and sambists that are awarded purple and brown belts just because of their grappling abiltiy, but than when it comes to knowledge of the actual art, they have blue belts that know more than them and can teach them a thing or two. Its almost like a tai fighters walking into a kyoshuken school and given a black or brown belt because he can out kick and punch most of the students, but doesnt know a single thing abojt thr art. Kyoshuken... an art ill never understand. Booting in the head for knockouts legal. Punching the head, illegal. Makes perfect sense. Yet Mas Oyama had very conditioned hands for striking. To me that should be the pride of kyoshuken, and allow punches to the head. Bare knuckle or not. Maybe they assume its too dangerous...... meanwhile after a side head kick knocks a guy out into next week... literally. I think something sinlmilar is my biggestnworry with bjj. It has so much potential the way its leading the way in grappling, and has done really well when going in that direction, but than you have some gyms that refuse to take anything in and adapt. They only wear gis, they all start on their knees or butts, yet still akwardly end up in a position that would never naturally happen in a real tournament, and just whatever else. Im completely against it aswell, just as a fan of thr art. Maybe indont ha e a right to say anything since im not officially a belt grade, but just from my hobbiest onservation i think some guys are right when they say in an mma context, the old bjj will never be able to survive if its tested, and even a black belt from their gym wont be able to do anything against a guy that wrestled for 3 years in highschool. And took one year of either either boxing, kickbobing or muay thai once tested against the black belt that had been training since he was 5, and is the same age, height, and weight as his competitor. Im not.much of a believer in styles beating styles, but with some, the way you train really does matter. Your training has to be realistic to real competition, and the old bjj gyms are not doing that anymore. Some have also decleoped just some very strange house rukes and beliefs just by observation on the few open mat days i atteneded. Also, regarding good counters and setups, youv probably heard or seen the 'thunder lock'. I never knew about it, but love the idea of it. Rnc have never been my thing, but I still love hammerlocks and anything else I can set up from there. If you feel up to it sometime Ramsey, do you know of any other good setups from the back that aren't going directly for the neck line unless it's a set up for a joint lock, or crusher? People have really neglected crushers.

    • @RamseyDewey
      @RamseyDewey  3 месяца назад

      Are you asking what other attacks are available are from back mount besides the RNC?

    • @Xzontyr
      @Xzontyr 3 месяца назад

      @RamseyDewey Yup. I thought I knew most of them, but continue to find new ones. Even if you know any that lead to a different position for the sub in a clean transition.

    • @RamseyDewey
      @RamseyDewey  3 месяца назад +1

      Do you know the twister series from backmount? ruclips.net/video/2uvAjIZaLco/видео.htmlsi=N0BVbw9_GeoipIf6

    • @Xzontyr
      @Xzontyr 3 месяца назад

      @@RamseyDewey It'll be a good refresher. I'll check it out. Thanks.

  • @Sbv-25
    @Sbv-25 3 месяца назад

    Coach, can the grovit kill people?

  • @deemc7756
    @deemc7756 3 месяца назад +1

    😮