choreography is not necesseraly kung fu or amazing moves, just add more logic and fluidity in their action. They are against the big evil and spend more time talking and calling each other with a lot of breaks " MOM ! " " wait let me deal with him " " SYLAAAAR ". Like someone else said he reacted to bullets but not sword, hiro didn't stop the time to kill him. Overal the way Sylar died was poor.
@@stevenyanez4003 they didn't need to know kung fu, but the fights could at least be well done Spiderman didn't learn kung fu, he was just a ordinary kid who got powers, like MANY other superheroes.
@@angiekang0218 indeed, however I will go further to say this show is probably one of TV's finest works, at least the first season. The excellence of the first season is so unparalleled even to this day. The closest thing to this today would be westworld or the wire. The writer's strike really killed the show, or at least derailed it . Nothing marvel has put out both in Movies and TV even comes close to this
We didn't have TV. I had to hike to a friend's house to watch...in the snow...uphill...both ways. You can see how I must have felt about season 2 and the writer's strike.
I loved this show, but even back then, I couldn't help but shake my head at the Peter vs. Syler scene. Peter could call on a combination of over a dozen powers, including Syler's telekinesis and he goes with "Punch in the face a few times."
@Harris Andon Fu Thank you, the show was never really about making anyone OP, but exploring what happens when average normal people suddenly begin to get abilities indeed, however I will go further to say this show is probably one of TV's finest works, at least the first season. The excellence of the first season is so unparalleled even to this day. The closest thing to this today would be westworld or the wire. The writer's strike really killed the show, or at least derailed it , they had an original plan but bailed and had to recover which they never fully could. The same thing affected smallville but they rebounded and gave us some of the best three final seasons of a show
@@emmanueloluga9770 i agree with you, honestly, i waa really hoping for a team to form but they gave us a 'lets hide our powers and dont make any act heroics'.
And in season 3 when he finally masters them all and is ready to kick massive ass, is determined, is going anti-hero he loses them all two minutes later.
It's TV trope. It's happening when character becomes too OP and writers don't know how to write stories around them and villains aren't really a threat to them. Then they are either taking away hero's powers or making him unable to control them. It's happening literally all the time: Phoebe on Charmed, Isabelle on 4400, Daisy on Agents of Shield, etc.
Always bothered me how Sylar could stop Parkman's bullets that were aimed at his back, but he just let Hiro run him through with a sword AFTER Hiro gets his attention by shouting his name.
Becoz hiro tried killing him once but was once too weak to do it and as a result, sylar froze his sword he got from Linderman. Sylar even humiliated his weakness at that scene. This causes him to go on some kind of Japanese sword training with his father and become stronger. The second time hiro tried to kill Sylar, as shown here, Sylar still thinks Hiro is the same weak one but he was wrong. So to sum it up, he got cocky and this causes his hurt.😱😱
Easy. Sylar has superhearing, he could now Parkman was going to shoot before he pulled the trigger. And Sylar thought Hiro was still a coward incapable to attack him, so he didn't even bother to stop him. Surprise.
@@adamcollins8907 indeed, however I will go further to say this show is probably one of TV's finest works, at least the first season. The excellence of the first season is so unparalleled even to this day. The closest thing to this today would be westworld or the wire. The writer's strike really killed the show, or at least derailed it
if this show came out in the streaming era, where writers weren't constrained to 45 minute blocks on network TV...we probably would have gotten a more extended ending for sure
Could be worse, in an alternate future when they're both more powerful they square up, Sykar wirh ice powes, Peter with fire and... that's it, cut to another scene we never see the fight.
Yeah, the writer's clearly didn't know how to conclude this season while also bringing back these characters given what they had setup. This finale always disappointed me.
@@meris8486 someone else pointed out the possibility of Sylar underestimating Hiro. It would make sense when you consider Sylar humiliated Hiro a little while ago.
This will forever be my favorite scene of Heroes. All of the main character's united at Kirby Plaza after a whole season of building up their interconnected stories was brilliant. I just wish that Sylar had stayed dead and the show wouldn't have lost it's way :/ .
+joshwim8 I agree letting sylar live basically just made the whole first season pointless and besides they had already planed having another badass villain that molly was talking about but instead they ruined that by having him being matts wimpy dad.
The show lost its way because they kept repeating the same story line of the world needing to be saved. they also should have killed off other characters or written them off. We don't need 4 seasons of Noah saving Claire. Just an example. Matt Parkers laughable romance subplots. Examples of stupid story arcs that ruined the show. Heroes road off of its great first season too much
@@dervish108 Nah, hes right, fans and critics alike still call this the best ending on a TV show ever, even westworld and smallville finales couldn't edge it out after all these years. indeed, however I will go further to say this show is probably one of TV's finest works, at least the first season. The excellence of the first season is so unparalleled even to this day. The closest thing to this today would be westworld or the wire. The writer's strike really killed the show, or at least derailed it
I thought he was super cheesy at first. Kinda lile i wanted to cringe when a scene of him popped up but then i got to see how versatile of an actor he can be and became a favorite of mine for sure.
I always thought that Peter was just punching him. You don't really need Super Strength to beat someone up. A better question is though is how Sylar survived that sword wound??? It makes no sense that the Company was able to save him from that.
No, that doesn't work like that. The strain the Company infected him with was the same one Niki infected herself with. It just blocks the user's powers without deadly side-effects. Candice said that they saved him with 8 surgeries and he was still healing 4 months later but that sort of blow should've severed his spine. At least it looked like it went through his spine.
I love how Hiro shows up and the blade is facing away from Sylar only to magically change to the opposite direction when they cut to the high angle shot.
To be fair, Tim's original idea was the have an ever revolving cast; season two was gonna largely have brand new characters. The network overruled him and demanded he keep existing actors ongoing, which meant changing his original story arc. So story lines that would've had new characters with new powers had to have existing characters shoehorned into them. And for the most part they largely didn't work.
@@Antonio-t6v3d it fell long before that What ruined Heroes is that they never planed for a S2 with THIS cast Each season would be an anthology, with a new cast and story
hahahah, although that was funny, I got sad a bit.. indeed, however I will go further to say this show is probably one of TV's finest works, at least the first season. The excellence of the first season is so unparalleled even to this day. The closest thing to this today would be westworld or the wire. The writer's strike really killed the show, or at least derailed it
@@emmanueloluga9770 i agree. It can't be compared even to GoT since they're in different categories. Heroes s1 really had that mysterious addictiveness which was new and fresh at that time.
The first season of this show was fantastic. But they painted themselves into a corner by giving too much power to too many characters. Sylar and Peter were essentially invulnerable, and that evaporates too much of the tension.
indeed, however I will go further to say this show is probably one of TV's finest works, at least the first season. The excellence of the first season is so unparalleled even to this day. The closest thing to this today would be westworld or the wire. The writer's strike really killed the show, or at least derailed it , they had an original plan but bailed and had to recover which they never fully could. The same thing affected smallville but they rebounded and gave us some of the best three final seasons of a show
Season 1 was near flawless!! There should have been different cast and stories each season, like True Detective rather than follow the same cast throughout the entire show. Perhaps the different cast and original cast could even meet up at some point to work together against a really powerful threat.
Showed up on recommended. Glad it did. This show was great! Might have to binge again! I still have my Takezo Kensei sword. It was my first online purchase!
Golden Robodude lol you can’t slow down a speedster by simply stopping, speedsters are beyond the restraints of time, time’s basically their bitch. Hi to nakamura can stop and time, he also bends space
indeed, however I will go further to say this show is probably one of TV's finest works, at least the first season. The excellence of the first season is so unparalleled even to this day. The closest thing to this today would be westworld or the wire. The writer's strike really killed the show, or at least derailed it
indeed, however I will go further to say this show is probably one of TV's finest works, at least the first season. The excellence of the first season is so unparalleled even to this day. The closest thing to this today would be westworld or the wire. The writer's strike really killed the show, or at least derailed it , they had an original plan but bailed and had to recover which they never fully could. The same thing affected smallville but they rebounded and gave us some of the best three final seasons of a show
“You think I’m going to let you ruin it all - take all the glory?” is such a good foreshadow. He’s implying that Peter will be the one who blows up, which he does.
That man stopped bullets but let Hiro appear, exist, run up on him, and stab him. Who was on QA for this show? I remember when I was so in love with this show. 😭 What a world.
@@sebastianemond5313 How so? I thought Hiro's son destroyed everyone with his own time control.... But please don't mention the (non-existent) sequel again.
@@officialnoonon Technically, that was Claire's son, whom Hiro adopted after the baby inadvertently absorbed his time travel powers. And the ending, it was yet sequel bait for another never to happen season, instead of just closing out the story. Yeah, best to let that sequel series fade away...
The saddest part of this scene is the fact that, with the control Sylar is established to have over telekinesis at this point in time, he could literally not lose this fight unless he's a complete idiot, or Peter either A: displayed a similar control over telekineses (which he did not) or B: used some sort of ranged energy attack (like a concentrated radiation burst) against him. Which was well out of what peter could do with his lack of control.
With Telekinesis alone, Sylar dominate most of his fights before his full reveal, and even after. It even seemed like he had multiple powers with just TK. Getting Claire's Regen power is when Sylar starts to fall in effectivity. Hes not as creative/resourceful once he has it.
@@SupaDanteX Before Regen, the cast had to put effort to hit Sylar. After? Sylar is all "LOL, i'm immortal." _especially_ after he gets Shapeshifting and moves the Regen weak spot.
@@r.s.2890 This is definitely true. But my original post was about the fact that he doesn't have regen at this point. He just completely fails to do the thing he's done for the entire season. Effectively use the powers at his disposal.
indeed, however I will go further to say this show is probably one of TV's finest works, at least the first season. The excellence of the first season is so unparalleled even to this day. The closest thing to this today would be westworld or the wire. The writer's strike really killed the show, or at least derailed it , they had an original plan but bailed and had to recover which they never fully could. The same thing affected smallville but they rebounded and gave us some of the best three final seasons of a show
Sylar's an INTJ, Peter is an ENFP . They Both use "Intuitive Aptitude"(silly title) but Peter uses it subconsciously(means 'instinctively' for you whom are somehow oblivious to the layers of your psyche) to passively and harmlessly incorporate the exotic faculties of special people that he encounters. Sylar's employment of this faculty is heavily compelled by instinct(which is why it manifests as insatiable Hunger) but only activated by epiphany-like inspiration. Such inspiration is functionally the same as instinct but comes from an inverse direction within one's consciousness, rather than ascending from the subconscious it descends from above what's ordinarily the surface realms of consciousness, descending from above the place in which one's sense of self is generally centred(making it actual intuition, as opposed to instinct which relies on biological memory and impulses). It's this difference in their power's manifestation which makes Sylar feel like his actions are justifiable response to the call of divine compulsion. It's a "High" for Sylar, his riding concentric waves of epiphany after epiphany in the act of analyzing and understanding/incorporating new faculties into his being. Hence his reference to Abraham Maslow's the peak experience/"flow state". Though his method is a violent and deadly extraction of desired faculties, to him it is by divine providence that he is compelled to act, thus ethical boundaries are secondary to his "divine right" as a being on the forefront of man's evolution. The difference in functionality is different for the two, Peter absorbs easier but Sylar processes what he absorbs to an extent that renders precision manipulation, superior articulation of greater efficiency in employing newly obtained faculties. This is why Sylar is generally superior to Peter, even when they are using the very same power to face off against each other. Peter only got the edge on Sylar in their conclusive battle of Season one because Nikki Sanders came to rescue him and by her proximity allowed Peter to attain her Super Strength(which Sylar did not also acquire because he needed to explicitly focus on the task of acquisition in order to attain new powers).
+WarGrowlmon18 Deus ex machina. By seeing Sylar's life flashing before his eyes, quite literally, I believe he was intended to die, but when they started making season two, they needed him back somehow.
Those were supposed to be some kind of vision according to the writers. But if you'll notice he disappears before the episode is over and that was Candace. Can't blame him for killing her, never liked her anyway. He probably did everyone a favor there like he did with Arthur and Bob. Oh and probably Elle. Can't fault him AT ALL for killing them though I REALLY wanted Peter to be the one to kill Arthur. My favorite episode with these two was The Wall. God I wish we saw more of what happened in Sylar's head that was just so INCREDIBLE!!! We missed out on at least 5 years of interactions between them. Which was confusing since Peter said it was around half a day in the real world which means it was more like 12 years.
Wait, Elle...? First, Kristen Bell was one of the best actors in the series, although some were decent, you could tell some were lacking. Second, The fact he killed her made sense story-wise. However, I saw it low even for Sylar and a better outcome would have been - him leaving her to die or something of the sort, but not killing her himself. Thus, showing true strength to resist, which at that point was doubtful and character development. Yes, I see that plenty of people like the character of that twisted psycho (and yes, he was made to look terrifying and monstrous, which worked really well), but you can't leave your characters at one place and expect to move somewhere. Similarly, they missed an opportunity for Hiro, when he lost his powers... And third - wait, you like season 4? That's quite a stretch.
Well not too much but I actually enjoyed the Peter/Emma storyline. But The Wall is definitely an incredible episode and I wish SO MUCH they did more with that one. They opened up some real possibilities with what they did there. I read that in the Ebook Save the Cheerleader, Destroy the World Sylar and Peter end up co-leaders of the Petrelli Movement against what the government was doing to evos or something like that. I also loved Hiro's time traveling adventure to save Charlie and how she got a happy ending even if it wasn't with him. And one tiny change there had serious effects for the better with Sylar like Noah altering the past slightly in Reborn affected the future in a slight way but for the worse in his case. The show always focused on how the big changes to the past affected things but in season 4 and Reborn they had little things have a big impact. Like how when Tommy discovered by following "the tinniest thread, the smallest butterfly" the one small thing that by changing he could unravel the HELE future.
I don't remember much about this show i never got to watch it fully but I always liked and remembered the balance/ reflection between the three guys who could absorb powers. If i remember right there was the guy (the flying politician's younger brother maybe? who temporarily absorbed a power leaving the victim unharmed which is kinda a good version, another guy who could absorb but kept one at a time i think, which is a neutral version but probably mis remembering, and there was sylar who could permanently keep powers but had to kill them. It's like a steady increase in potency of the power but with an increasing cost to the victim, a nice steady increase in power in exchange for losing your soul to evil acts
Okay, its been a few years since Ive seen Season 1 but I have a question: How did Nikki know to attack Sylar? As far as I can remember, she never had any encounters with him at all. Same thing goes with Peter. She never met him before this. Only Nathan. So why did she get involved with Peter and Sylar's fight?
Actually it has, the full final episode and show as a whole. Someone with top comment explains this scene in their thread sufficiently. indeed, however I will go further to say this show is probably one of TV's finest works, at least the first season. The excellence of the first season is so unparalleled even to this day. The closest thing to this today would be westworld or the wire. The writer's strike really killed the show, or at least derailed it , they had an original plan but bailed and had to recover which they never fully could. The same thing affected smallville but they rebounded and gave us some of the best three final seasons of a show
2:00 O que eu acho legal em Heroes é que a história dos personagens é narrada separadamente para que, no final, todos eles se encontrem numa cena épica. Porém, essa cena tinha muito mais potencial. Foi realmente muito curto e rápido. Deveriam ter explorado mais os poderes do Peter.
If there was one thing this show needed more than anything, its fight choreography
Andrew Heydt they were just normal people who had normal lives how would it make sense if they become kung fu masters
Andrew Heydt wouldn’t have worked out. They were people living normal lives
choreography is not necesseraly kung fu or amazing moves, just add more logic and fluidity in their action. They are against the big evil and spend more time talking and calling each other with a lot of breaks " MOM ! " " wait let me deal with him " " SYLAAAAR ".
Like someone else said he reacted to bullets but not sword, hiro didn't stop the time to kill him. Overal the way Sylar died was poor.
Choreography could also be creativity with their powers. This show could have been great but it fell so flat as it went on
@@stevenyanez4003 they didn't need to know kung fu, but the fights could at least be well done
Spiderman didn't learn kung fu, he was just a ordinary kid who got powers, like MANY other superheroes.
Before the Avengers, this is what we had AND WE WERE GRATEFUL!
No no no...not 'were'...i don't know about others but i still am grateful...
Facts
@@angiekang0218 indeed, however I will go further to say this show is probably one of TV's finest works, at least the first season. The excellence of the first season is so unparalleled even to this day. The closest thing to this today would be westworld
or the wire. The writer's strike really killed the show, or at least derailed it
. Nothing marvel has put out both in Movies and TV even comes close to this
This is better than the avengers. Marvel is utter garbage
We didn't have TV. I had to hike to a friend's house to watch...in the snow...uphill...both ways. You can see how I must have felt about season 2 and the writer's strike.
I loved this show, but even back then, I couldn't help but shake my head at the Peter vs. Syler scene. Peter could call on a combination of over a dozen powers, including Syler's telekinesis and he goes with "Punch in the face a few times."
I mean, he copied Niki's strength. Had to be tempting to try it out.
Still, probably makes more sense than most of Marvel and DC.
@@officialnoononleave dc out of it, Batman is the best superhero of all time
true but he was very afraid of blowing up, they probably should have led into that more
@@TheJoker-bz3msBat what? He's one of the most underwhelming.
I hated that Peter never used any of his like 20 powers... most useless OP character
@Harris Andon Fu Thank you, the show was never really about making anyone OP, but exploring what happens when average normal people suddenly begin to get abilities
indeed, however I will go further to say this show is probably one of TV's finest works, at least the first season. The excellence of the first season is so unparalleled even to this day. The closest thing to this today would be westworld
or the wire. The writer's strike really killed the show, or at least derailed it
, they had an original plan but bailed and had to recover which they never fully could. The same thing affected smallville but they rebounded and gave us some of the best three final seasons of a show
@@emmanueloluga9770 i agree with you, honestly, i waa really hoping for a team to form but they gave us a 'lets hide our powers and dont make any act heroics'.
And in season 3 when he finally masters them all and is ready to kick massive ass, is determined, is going anti-hero he loses them all two minutes later.
It's called the "protagonist buff".
It's TV trope. It's happening when character becomes too OP and writers don't know how to write stories around them and villains aren't really a threat to them. Then they are either taking away hero's powers or making him unable to control them. It's happening literally all the time:
Phoebe on Charmed, Isabelle on 4400, Daisy on Agents of Shield, etc.
Always bothered me how Sylar could stop Parkman's bullets that were aimed at his back, but he just let Hiro run him through with a sword AFTER Hiro gets his attention by shouting his name.
Becoz hiro tried killing him once but was once too weak to do it and as a result, sylar froze his sword he got from Linderman. Sylar even humiliated his weakness at that scene.
This causes him to go on some kind of Japanese sword training with his father and become stronger.
The second time hiro tried to kill Sylar, as shown here, Sylar still thinks Hiro is the same weak one but he was wrong. So to sum it up, he got cocky and this causes his hurt.😱😱
Easy. Sylar has superhearing, he could now Parkman was going to shoot before he pulled the trigger.
And Sylar thought Hiro was still a coward incapable to attack him, so he didn't even bother to stop him. Surprise.
He DID just get the shit beaten out of him with super strength punches, so he was probably a little woozy. That's my take on it.
Laserlord1967 I'm pretty sure Hiro froze times and then attacked Sylar, we just didn't see Hiro freeze time.
Yeah its doesn't make sense at all, even the best shows have weird mistakes like that, as much as fanboys hate to admit it.
When Heroes was good and actually made sense.
When Heros should have ended too (going out on top is better than bad story latter)
It was originally meant to be an anthology series with a new story and cast each season.
@@adamcollins8907 indeed, however I will go further to say this show is probably one of TV's finest works, at least the first season. The excellence of the first season is so unparalleled even to this day. The closest thing to this today would be westworld
or the wire. The writer's strike really killed the show, or at least derailed it
orhema oluga this! Best season 1 of any show ever
Those are strong words
It was pretty disappointing to see them all finally come together, and Nikki only gets one hit in.
But still satisfying to see. Nikki and her twin are pretty badass.
Honestly, her doing that at all is surprising.
The excuse for her to leave didn't help either.
Nikki, Jessica, tracy, helen or lucy-anne possibly even karen in there
Nikki got one hit in but gave Peter her power in that scene which he used to beat Sylar
The first season of Heroes will go down as one of the best of all time.
This should have been a much longer and more epic fight than what we got.
if this show came out in the streaming era, where writers weren't constrained to 45 minute blocks on network TV...we probably would have gotten a more extended ending for sure
@@skippythealien9627 I could see them continuing it in animated form if done right
Could be worse, in an alternate future when they're both more powerful they square up, Sykar wirh ice powes, Peter with fire and... that's it, cut to another scene we never see the fight.
Yeah, the writer's clearly didn't know how to conclude this season while also bringing back these characters given what they had setup. This finale always disappointed me.
0:39 Amazing reflexes
2:02 Not so amazing reflexes
He spend it all on 0:39 xD
I know, the guy could stop bullets but could not stop a charging guy
@@Supernatural3878
Sylar: "i'm gonna stop it"
Writer: "NOPE"
If Hiro just paused time it would've made sense
@@meris8486 someone else pointed out the possibility of Sylar underestimating Hiro. It would make sense when you consider Sylar humiliated Hiro a little while ago.
This will forever be my favorite scene of Heroes. All of the main character's united at Kirby Plaza after a whole season of building up their interconnected stories was brilliant. I just wish that Sylar had stayed dead and the show wouldn't have lost it's way :/ .
ci
+joshwim8 I agree letting sylar live basically just made the whole first season pointless and besides they had already planed having another badass villain that molly was talking about but instead they ruined that by having him being matts wimpy dad.
I wish that syler died in this scene. But they should have made him more powerful like having more abilities. Including Peter.
+World Patriot agree
i was so exited for mister nightmare turns out he s a pussy
The show lost its way because they kept repeating the same story line of the world needing to be saved. they also should have killed off other characters or written them off. We don't need 4 seasons of Noah saving Claire. Just an example. Matt Parkers laughable romance subplots. Examples of stupid story arcs that ruined the show. Heroes road off of its great first season too much
i remember this when it just aired.. how time flies =(
Fuck you
@@qwerty-hr5xh ??
@@Rodrigo-td9ut idk
@@qwerty-hr5xh xd
No ending was as sick as this one.
J.K. Anane (original) Magnum P.I. episode “Did You See the Sunrise” ending was the best.
@@dervish108 Nah, hes right, fans and critics alike still call this the best ending on a TV show ever, even westworld and smallville finales couldn't edge it out after all these years. indeed, however I will go further to say this show is probably one of TV's finest works, at least the first season. The excellence of the first season is so unparalleled even to this day. The closest thing to this today would be westworld
or the wire. The writer's strike really killed the show, or at least derailed it
Game of Thrones?
Is this for real?
@@balabalabiubiu5248 Fuck no?!
I loved Noah Bennett,he was an amazing actor in this.No powers but a force to reckon with
I thought he was super cheesy at first. Kinda lile i wanted to cringe when a scene of him popped up but then i got to see how versatile of an actor he can be and became a favorite of mine for sure.
2:02. To quote Thanos," You should have gone for the head."
🤣🤣🤣
I loved this fight. Niki grabbing the parking meter from Sylar's hands had me on the edge of my seat!!
By the way: according to all the sources I've read when Peter starts beating Sylar after Niki saves him he's using her Super Strength.
Yeah he does, and its fucking awesome. Just one thing: how is Sylar not dead from that alone?
I always thought that Peter was just punching him. You don't really need Super Strength to beat someone up. A better question is though is how Sylar survived that sword wound??? It makes no sense that the Company was able to save him from that.
WarGrowlmon18 My guess is the Shanti Virus. Somehow, it saved him at the cost of his powers.
No, that doesn't work like that. The strain the Company infected him with was the same one Niki infected herself with. It just blocks the user's powers without deadly side-effects. Candice said that they saved him with 8 surgeries and he was still healing 4 months later but that sort of blow should've severed his spine. At least it looked like it went through his spine.
WarGrowlmon18 Oh who cares anymore? He probably died in Heroes Reborn.
I love how Hiro shows up and the blade is facing away from Sylar only to magically change to the opposite direction when they cut to the high angle shot.
Same thing happens when DL killed Lindemann by somehow appearing behind him after being shot in the chest seconds earlier
This first season was GOLD!!!
This show walked so The Boys, Powers, and Jupiters Legacy, could run
I hate that Powers got cancelled
Jupiter's legacy tried I think.
Everything but the Boys remains. 😜
The boys is awesome!
If only we could go back and start over from season 2. Man did Tim destroy his creation!
The Writers Guild Strike did that
To be fair, Tim's original idea was the have an ever revolving cast; season two was gonna largely have brand new characters. The network overruled him and demanded he keep existing actors ongoing, which meant changing his original story arc. So story lines that would've had new characters with new powers had to have existing characters shoehorned into them. And for the most part they largely didn't work.
@@Antonio-t6v3d it fell long before that
What ruined Heroes is that they never planed for a S2 with THIS cast
Each season would be an anthology, with a new cast and story
You may save the cheerleader ,but you can't save the ratings.
hahahah, although that was funny, I got sad a bit.. indeed, however I will go further to say this show is probably one of TV's finest works, at least the first season. The excellence of the first season is so unparalleled even to this day. The closest thing to this today would be westworld
or the wire. The writer's strike really killed the show, or at least derailed it
@@emmanueloluga9770 i agree. It can't be compared even to GoT since they're in different categories. Heroes s1 really had that mysterious addictiveness which was new and fresh at that time.
I think The Leftovers is on par with Heroes
@@emmanueloluga9770 Copy and pasting everywhere? We get it
@@private679r.i.c.o4 that was back in the summer. I had abundant time so I replied to about 6 comments as a discussion starter. Nothing serious
Loved it. Though I wish they had let Niki take a few more swipes at Syler before going back to the family.
The first season of this show was fantastic. But they painted themselves into a corner by giving too much power to too many characters. Sylar and Peter were essentially invulnerable, and that evaporates too much of the tension.
indeed, however I will go further to say this show is probably one of TV's finest works, at least the first season. The excellence of the first season is so unparalleled even to this day. The closest thing to this today would be westworld
or the wire. The writer's strike really killed the show, or at least derailed it
, they had an original plan but bailed and had to recover which they never fully could. The same thing affected smallville but they rebounded and gave us some of the best three final seasons of a show
@@emmanueloluga9770 i like you, you know good shows. Tell me, what’s picking your brain rn i need new show that aren’t anime.
@@emmanueloluga9770 Alias >>> Heroes.
Season 1 was near flawless!! There should have been different cast and stories each season, like True Detective rather than follow the same cast throughout the entire show. Perhaps the different cast and original cast could even meet up at some point to work together against a really powerful threat.
This show is the definition of missed opportunity.
Can you elaborate? Season 1, despite its flaws, is a well crafted masterpiece...
The rest of the show… well I would like to hear your side...
Season 1 was fantastic.
@@Scoonertuna i mean, the had an amazing build up season 1 but ruined every single character story arc from season 2. Story was just meh.
@@ibrahimsyed1033 the way i finished the show anyway because there wasn’t anything as good on netflix back then
Ikr
Showed up on recommended. Glad it did. This show was great! Might have to binge again! I still have my Takezo Kensei sword. It was my first online purchase!
Managed to stop bullets.
Couldn't stop a guy running with a sword. Or simply move out of the way.
you forget that man stopped time.
Sylar had just been beaten up by two people with super strength. He was probably concussed and not thinking clearly.
Petar Jović hiro nakamura can stop time dummy
Golden Robodude lol you can’t slow down a speedster by simply stopping, speedsters are beyond the restraints of time, time’s basically their bitch. Hi to nakamura can stop and time, he also bends space
Nothing says Hiro didnt lock time
Heroes of the best TV shows.
Heroes are a legacy in my soul, good against evil this eternal opposition.
indeed, however I will go further to say this show is probably one of TV's finest works, at least the first season. The excellence of the first season is so unparalleled even to this day. The closest thing to this today would be westworld
or the wire. The writer's strike really killed the show, or at least derailed it
It had its ups and downs, but i miss this show
indeed, however I will go further to say this show is probably one of TV's finest works, at least the first season. The excellence of the first season is so unparalleled even to this day. The closest thing to this today would be westworld
or the wire. The writer's strike really killed the show, or at least derailed it
, they had an original plan but bailed and had to recover which they never fully could. The same thing affected smallville but they rebounded and gave us some of the best three final seasons of a show
I was 17 when i 1st watched this..now iam 30...damn why time flies so fast
Now you are 34
This first season was one of my favorite Tv Show from all times. Lost got me hooked up too.
Heroes Season 1, and Supernatural Season 5 are proof that sometimes you really should quit while you're ahead
Heroes brings back so many memories. It was so gripping and unpredictable.
“You think I’m going to let you ruin it all - take all the glory?” is such a good foreshadow. He’s implying that Peter will be the one who blows up, which he does.
Heroes one of the best shows of all time
What a shame never get to see the ending :/ one of my favourite show really.
I remember that Heroes was by far one of the best Super Heroes show out there, and Sylar and Peter were just two great overpowered heroes.
"Turns out you're the villain Peter, I'm the hero..."
I remember watching this for the first time when it aired. It was the most exciting thing ever.
This show was one of the first one with ordinary people having super powers and now there are so many... this one sis still the best
1 of the best fight scenes in TV show ever
If the original cast ever wanted to make more seasons of this, I'd be cool with that
I miss this show sooo much.
Who is watching this in 1857 ?
Gotta love technology
Hiro and Peter Petrelli maybe
That man stopped bullets but let Hiro appear, exist, run up on him, and stab him. Who was on QA for this show? I remember when I was so in love with this show. 😭
What a world.
This was an amazing show
Sylar is the best villain of the Tv show history
Was a villain
Is the Vegeta of Heroes
+congokong87 how about we pretends Second half of Volume 3 onwards never happens?
No in the end he is good •.•
Him and season1 reverse Flash
Wait... after watching it more than a thousand Times... Niki saved the day....
What a great show. Hate it really didn’t have an ending.
Even the follow-up didn't have an ending.
@@sebastianemond5313 How so? I thought Hiro's son destroyed everyone with his own time control.... But please don't mention the (non-existent) sequel again.
@@officialnoonon Technically, that was Claire's son, whom Hiro adopted after the baby inadvertently absorbed his time travel powers. And the ending, it was yet sequel bait for another never to happen season, instead of just closing out the story. Yeah, best to let that sequel series fade away...
Miss this show ;(
Heroes was so the vibe that year 😍😍😍
Lol Matt coming up from behind Sylar with a gun....sigh YOU CAN CONTROL FRICKEN MINDS MATT!
chrissleeping65 not at this point he couldn’t. That was a power he unlocked in Season 2. He could only read them in S1.
One of the best TV seasons I've ever seen
I really have to rewatch this getting mad cravings just watching these little snippets.
Best tv series ever
Cara eu via essa série incrível quando era mais novo, muito bom essa série irado! Saudade da época de 2000, nostalgia!!
enjoyment goes down every time Sylar is on-screen
The saddest part of this scene is the fact that, with the control Sylar is established to have over telekinesis at this point in time, he could literally not lose this fight unless he's a complete idiot, or Peter either A: displayed a similar control over telekineses (which he did not) or B: used some sort of ranged energy attack (like a concentrated radiation burst) against him. Which was well out of what peter could do with his lack of control.
With Telekinesis alone, Sylar dominate most of his fights before his full reveal, and even after. It even seemed like he had multiple powers with just TK.
Getting Claire's Regen power is when Sylar starts to fall in effectivity. Hes not as creative/resourceful once he has it.
@@r.s.2890 Exactly. He dominated. And then he just got real bad. I guess because "Writers" and "Story progression" lol.
@@SupaDanteX Before Regen, the cast had to put effort to hit Sylar. After? Sylar is all "LOL, i'm immortal." _especially_ after he gets Shapeshifting and moves the Regen weak spot.
@@r.s.2890 This is definitely true.
But my original post was about the fact that he doesn't have regen at this point. He just completely fails to do the thing he's done for the entire season. Effectively use the powers at his disposal.
Hero, could have teleported behind Syler and decapitated him.
Peter would make an absolutely AWESOME, Wolverine!! 👏🏻😍👍🏻👍🏻
Peter asorbed like 4 different abilities in this scene alone
Super Strength
Phasing
Technopath
What was the 4th?
@@Antonio-t6v3d Molly's power? I don't remember what that was called though.
@@scamrasc Clairvoyance. Molly could easily locate and pinpoint where people are with her ability.
Not Peter absorbe 2 power
Niki and dl
@@Antonio-t6v3d 2
Phasing and Niki
Not Mika and Molly
Love heroes all the way through and through. I might drive down to California and see this place.
I wish the fight was more epic.
Heroes was the best 2 seasons of television....and also 2 more seasons....
SYRAR!!!!!!
Season one was amazing.
It's a shame they never continued this I loved it
indeed, however I will go further to say this show is probably one of TV's finest works, at least the first season. The excellence of the first season is so unparalleled even to this day. The closest thing to this today would be westworld
or the wire. The writer's strike really killed the show, or at least derailed it
, they had an original plan but bailed and had to recover which they never fully could. The same thing affected smallville but they rebounded and gave us some of the best three final seasons of a show
Dude, I loved this show so much. Still do.
This show is like a live action anime
It was all downhill from here. Peters little bang killed me😂😂
Sylar is fighting peter......"MUM dad need your help!!"
rite? stupid kid..annoying as fuck
Sylar's an INTJ, Peter is an ENFP . They Both use "Intuitive Aptitude"(silly title) but Peter uses it subconsciously(means 'instinctively' for you whom are somehow oblivious to the layers of your psyche) to passively and harmlessly incorporate the exotic faculties of special people that he encounters.
Sylar's employment of this faculty is heavily compelled by instinct(which is why it manifests as insatiable Hunger) but only activated by epiphany-like inspiration.
Such inspiration is functionally the same as instinct but comes from an inverse direction within one's consciousness, rather than ascending from the subconscious it descends from above what's ordinarily the surface realms of consciousness, descending from above the place in which one's sense of self is generally centred(making it actual intuition, as opposed to instinct which relies on biological memory and impulses).
It's this difference in their power's manifestation which makes Sylar feel like his actions are justifiable response to the call of divine compulsion.
It's a "High" for Sylar, his riding concentric waves of epiphany after epiphany in the act of analyzing and understanding/incorporating new faculties into his being. Hence his reference to Abraham Maslow's the peak experience/"flow state".
Though his method is a violent and deadly extraction of desired faculties, to him it is by divine providence that he is compelled to act, thus ethical boundaries are secondary to his "divine right" as a being on the forefront of man's evolution.
The difference in functionality is different for the two, Peter absorbs easier but Sylar processes what he absorbs to an extent that renders precision manipulation, superior articulation of greater efficiency in employing newly obtained faculties.
This is why Sylar is generally superior to Peter, even when they are using the very same power to face off against each other.
Peter only got the edge on Sylar in their conclusive battle of Season one because Nikki Sanders came to rescue him and by her proximity allowed Peter to attain her Super Strength(which Sylar did not also acquire because he needed to explicitly focus on the task of acquisition in order to attain new powers).
Shut up
It’s not real bro
So Matt survives 4 shots but Simone died with 2.
Hiro should have cut Sylar again at 2:10.
i remember simone not died there he died try to save people on fire he was fireman.
Matt wasn't shot, Sylar just threw the bullets at him. Fast enough to penetrate the skin yes, but nowhere near the force of an actual gunshot.
He probably wore a vest as a cop
Bruh she got hit in the heart
Thank you and God bless
Never got how Sylar survived that.
+WarGrowlmon18
Deus ex machina.
By seeing Sylar's life flashing before his eyes, quite literally, I believe he was intended to die, but when they started making season two, they needed him back somehow.
Those were supposed to be some kind of vision according to the writers. But if you'll notice he disappears before the episode is over and that was Candace. Can't blame him for killing her, never liked her anyway. He probably did everyone a favor there like he did with Arthur and Bob. Oh and probably Elle. Can't fault him AT ALL for killing them though I REALLY wanted Peter to be the one to kill Arthur. My favorite episode with these two was The Wall. God I wish we saw more of what happened in Sylar's head that was just so INCREDIBLE!!! We missed out on at least 5 years of interactions between them. Which was confusing since Peter said it was around half a day in the real world which means it was more like 12 years.
Wait, Elle...? First, Kristen Bell was one of the best actors in the series, although some were decent, you could tell some were lacking.
Second, The fact he killed her made sense story-wise. However, I saw it low even for Sylar and a better outcome would have been - him leaving her to die or something of the sort, but not killing her himself. Thus, showing true strength to resist, which at that point was doubtful and character development. Yes, I see that plenty of people like the character of that twisted psycho (and yes, he was made to look terrifying and monstrous, which worked really well), but you can't leave your characters at one place and expect to move somewhere. Similarly, they missed an opportunity for Hiro, when he lost his powers...
And third - wait, you like season 4? That's quite a stretch.
Well not too much but I actually enjoyed the Peter/Emma storyline. But The Wall is definitely an incredible episode and I wish SO MUCH they did more with that one. They opened up some real possibilities with what they did there. I read that in the Ebook Save the Cheerleader, Destroy the World Sylar and Peter end up co-leaders of the Petrelli Movement against what the government was doing to evos or something like that. I also loved Hiro's time traveling adventure to save Charlie and how she got a happy ending even if it wasn't with him. And one tiny change there had serious effects for the better with Sylar like Noah altering the past slightly in Reborn affected the future in a slight way but for the worse in his case. The show always focused on how the big changes to the past affected things but in season 4 and Reborn they had little things have a big impact. Like how when Tommy discovered by following "the tinniest thread, the smallest butterfly" the one small thing that by changing he could unravel the HELE future.
+WarGrowlmon18 Sylar and Peter were the only likable characters at the end of season 4 Every one else I was just sick of their story lines.
I forgot on how much I love this show
Damn I miss this show!
This show is seriously amazing
1:56 *teleports behind you* Nothing personal, kid.
The only series I watched all the way through!!
I don't remember much about this show i never got to watch it fully but I always liked and remembered the balance/ reflection between the three guys who could absorb powers. If i remember right there was the guy (the flying politician's younger brother maybe? who temporarily absorbed a power leaving the victim unharmed which is kinda a good version, another guy who could absorb but kept one at a time i think, which is a neutral version but probably mis remembering, and there was sylar who could permanently keep powers but had to kill them. It's like a steady increase in potency of the power but with an increasing cost to the victim, a nice steady increase in power in exchange for losing your soul to evil acts
Such nostalgic vibes....
Okay, its been a few years since Ive seen Season 1 but I have a question: How did Nikki know to attack Sylar? As far as I can remember, she never had any encounters with him at all. Same thing goes with Peter. She never met him before this. Only Nathan. So why did she get involved with Peter and Sylar's fight?
Plot twist: Sylar’s really a jedi. Rockin some Kylo Ren style dark side abilities.
Damn, Hiro totally stole it. That's how you do a Badass Japanese Moment!
I used to love this show so much 💜
wait what the fuck 1:58 the sword changes direction... how did they miss that while editing?
Lazy bastards, man.
Well , hiro nakamura is master of time, there are also 2 little cuts in that scenes short before to change the position of the sword
Season 1 was really good
Everytime I see Hiiro's face I always end up laughing. Something about his fave just really funny to me 🤣
I like how sylar just stands still as Hiro runs towards him to stab him
Hiro froze time around sylar so he couldn't move. Lol jokes I dunno wtf is going on.
This movie is exactly what's happening right now. If you have supernatural powers then let's work together .
Im a special!! I am an empath and telekinetic guy😉
This has not aged... Great
Actually it has, the full final episode and show as a whole. Someone with top comment explains this scene in their thread sufficiently.
indeed, however I will go further to say this show is probably one of TV's finest works, at least the first season. The excellence of the first season is so unparalleled even to this day. The closest thing to this today would be westworld
or the wire. The writer's strike really killed the show, or at least derailed it
, they had an original plan but bailed and had to recover which they never fully could. The same thing affected smallville but they rebounded and gave us some of the best three final seasons of a show
2:00 omae wa mou shindeiru
Nani?
This should have been the special effects showdown we were owed when the two of them fought in the future.
Uma das séries que mais gostei na vida. Lembrança boa.
Hard to believe this was 14 years ago.
Almost 18 now
2:00 O que eu acho legal em Heroes é que a história dos personagens é narrada separadamente para que, no final, todos eles se encontrem numa cena épica. Porém, essa cena tinha muito mais potencial. Foi realmente muito curto e rápido. Deveriam ter explorado mais os poderes do Peter.
Before Marvel & DC, old kids were wacthing this and it was awesome.
If only Peter completely mastered his powers and ended his training with Claude, he could have beaten Sylar very easily
Best show every made miss this show