Jack VS God | Jack Absorbs God's Powers & Becomes The New God! Supernatural 15x19 Ending Explained
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Mate I'm seeing an issue with how they left Chuck? Yeah he's human and everything now .. but the writers forgot that he's God .. he created everything .. he has knowledge on every single thing in existence .. The knowledge he has still? He's still able to be a bigger threat to earth than anything else they've ever fought. Maybe spells to power himself up kinda like Jack did? Or maybe summon the empty to earth to destroy it all? (I'm sure he's the only person who knows how) There are still millions of ways he could be the biggest threat in existence merely because he has knowledge of literally everything. He created everything. He knows how everything works and probably has knowledge on spells and things that no one in existence ever even came across. So when Jensen said: "This isn't goodbye, just see ya later" , they might use that to bring the show back in the future for a short season. Same as they did with Heroes, bringing it back for 1 season as Heroes Reborn
@The Book 98 maybe Jack will die lol
@@STEVEN-cw2gh Good point!! After all the possible capabilities and storylines we've seen, so much could happen. It's very possible for Chuck to find allies to bring down Sam and Dean and the whole world.
I'm glad I came to watch this. I was confused as to how they will pick up from this and end the series. This episode felt like the series finale and I just sat and bawled like a baby!! I figured the 2 hour special next week was probably just going to be like a comicon panel of the top actors discussing the show and flashbacks. From what I've read, that's only the first hour. The last hour actually ends the world. So, we shall see...
To be fair Chuck let his gaurd down and all he cared about the perfect ending to their story they used that against him lol
chuck: "What did you do to me?!"
Jack: "I took away your bending! You can't use it to hurt or threaten people ever again!"
I have the reference.
This is so smart. XD
Avatar reference
Yeah my guy that's a quote from avatar
Does he actually say that? I just watched the whole thing and missed it I guess.
And what the original death said still holds true “in the end I’ll reap him too” now that chuck is human he will be reaped like all humans
And will probably go to hell. Isn't it ironic? He ends up in the same place he condemned countless people to. I hope the demons get to do whatever they want to him, at least they have SOME moral standards.
@lol lol Except he's now human. And humans go to hell.
@lol lol And now Jack has his grace back.
Yes, but was Death talking about the person (Chuck) or the function (the function that Chuck and Jack shared)?
Kinda original Death ain't around no more otherwise non this would happen remember he's stronger than God, lucifer, micheal, Lucifers son, Darkness, he was the top dog and him being around is what brought the balance. I believe God was a genius knowing in the end Dean would rid him of the only person that could stop him
The irony of lucifer's son becoming God.
Kinda poetic. The child of the incarnation of the pure evil, touched by the love of humans became god. Got something
Complete hersey
The anti christ is no match for God
@@mexicancaiman3128 its just a tv show bud
@@mexicancaiman3128 it's fiction
@@mexicancaiman3128 dude he's not the anti-christ in this show
And it's fiction
You know not real?
imagine playing sims and they become self aware and trap you in the sims world with no ability to leave it
Yeah, my Sims definitely would kill me...
I have purposely killed my sims, it wouldn’t be great for me
When you put it like that it’s horrifying, that’s how Chuck saw rhem
That sounds like the plot of a Goosebumps book
Didn't the whole Jesus Christ story already defined this Sims killing you, except... Your avatar is in cheat code so death isn't permanent but a bug in the code.
There is just one problem with leaving Chuck alive. He might not have the power of God but he still has the knowledge of God.
Excellent point
Not really. God has been alive for eons and taking his power made him mortal. A human's brain can't comprehend that amount of information, so he'll forget 90% of the stuff he knows.
Thats the thing though, Chuck is now a normal, plain as day human. He may have all his previous knowledge, but to use it, namely any spells and such, he would first have to procure the ingredients and such. As a normal human, he can become a hunter in disguise to get back at the Winchesters, however, we all know how untimely all Hunters, besides the Winchester boys, die. The boys had Luck on their side, no other hunters had that. If Chuck tried to go out hunting for the ingredients to any spell that could possibly help him he would almost certainly die.
@Tony White Nox/Nyx Greco-Roman Protogonoi of Darkness?
@Tony White Chuck's sister was called Amara.
“That’s not who I am.” Badass, love seeing that character development.
He actually quoted what Castiel said in the past 🥺
@@jennash oh wow I didn’t catch that! So powerful, Cas was the one who really made him realize.
So lame. Heroes are willing to kill to save the world. Not give a guy with infinite knowledge the ability to make a comeback.
@@Celtic_Blade would you rather him be killed and get that “glorious fate” he wanted, or stew in the fact that he’s just another useless being with no story to tell? I think the choice to not kill him was brilliant.
@@vanessarodriguez9079 I know right 🥺 I’m also so happy destiel is real but also really sad that dean didn’t talk about cas like at all in this episode. It didn’t make sense.
Why does Jack look like he could be Castiel's son in real life
Because Alexander is Misha's biological son
@@johnescovici9188 😲 duh🙄 come on I'm on youtube, like everyone else, who wouldn't know or even to think to look it up, sorry buddy your 25 minutes to late. 😁
@@johnescovici9188 I'm playing, I didn't really know that until I looked it up shortly after I posted it earlier
@@johnescovici9188 Never bother to look that up or even paid to much attention to there obvious similar appearance....you taught me something 😏😎
@@marys1534 I could have sworn that they aren’t really related I believe they made a video about it , it was a joke
At least the writers admitted it by giving God this line:
What kind of ending is this?!
😂💀
I mean....this is really old trick of cinema plotting: god is evil but dumb and he create human just for fun, demon is good, human is better than both and can beat god with a little bit effort
@@Hadihadi-wr8mt God isn't evil on the show. He's just tired of his creation. He isn't human or small.
@@tsemiu If I grow "tired" of my child and hurt it, or "play" with it etc to MY entertainment, have I not turned evil?
@@MistedMind im not sure what youre saying. Humans arent gods children. Theyre his creation. When you get tired of your playdough man, you crush it right? Smash it up in your hands? In comparison to everything else un the universe amd how big God really is, we are nothing. Just toys. Its like how Death put it to Dean when they first met.
Chuck: "What part of omniscient don't people get..."
Apparently the show's writers.
@@dedsecdefalt7888 just saw ep20, goddammit this was a crappy ending, the "omnipotent" part was obviously just in name only, it feels like they didnt even try with the final, oh, well, time to finish the villain, lets make him powerless....and make jack the new boss, and than lets wrap it up as fast as possible with dean dying somehow and sam getting old and dying.
@@yade5979 It was a good ending.
@@HighLordoftheBathroom no, it wasn’t
It was The Worst ending Ever, The End.
Andrew dabb still “thinks” he’s a genius, but delusional neurological disorders without treatment turned his mind, and our show; to mush.
In the series it was always obvious God was full of him self. So he would obviously say he's all powerful even if not. His sister was stronger than him, he wasnt omnipresent or omniscient.
I love that jack becomes god and then still rides in the back seat😂😂
Lmaoo....he called the stars...he didnt call shotgun
I think he'll do better then his predecessor. The duty of a God is to watch over and protect their people, not rule over them as a tyrant.
Bwahahahaha
ensan ensandost
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Chuck did not have a negative personality, he is the same person who was willing to sacrifice himself for his creatures in the previous episodesHe is the author of 13 series of this series that we likedHe is the author of 13 series of this series that we liked
@@ensanensandost2214 maybe he acted like he was going to sacrifice himself because he knew the guys would find another way
Rob's portrayal of a truly desperate and afraid chuck was stunning
Ikr!!! He was magnific. I felt sorry for him in that moment
I love the show but I can’t help but feel that it had the potential to be infinitely much better
It's basically a season about Chuck blindly planning his own suicide. The Winchesters didn't do nearly as much as Chuck did.
@@justinblakeney3466 true that’s why I really didn’t like or enjoy the last season as much as the others I think the ending & the last season was so rushed that it ended on a low even with the high expectations for the final season it still just wasn’t as good as it should’ve & I think the writers wrote themselves into a corner that is really hard to get out of u can’t have Chuck be all knowing & powerful & then give him such ending even if they have a moral lesson or an idea that chuck is also prideful & his pride led him into vanity It’s still not a good way to end the show it wasn’t bad but it could’ve been way way way better & could’ve used another season as well 😁 (wow I wort a lot I don’t think anyone will bother reading shit but u enjoyed writing it😂🤣 🙃)
@@davidjumah9522 I agree the show had a great potential and could have been equivalent to stranger things and got level of popularity.
I think this ending was so stupid. You can't beat God. He's omniscient. He'd know everything that can and will happen for all eternity, you can't fool or set up a trap for him. He'll see it coming before you think it up.
Im sorry buddy, but anything that has 16~ seasons CANT be good. The show was good for first 2 seasons. 3-5 were OK, but everything after that? Cmon.
I was hoping lucifer had a bigger role. He's funny as hell.
Same
@@kyastil8541 "Funny as hell"
I see waht you did there.
I heard COVID restrictions ruined the plans for the last episodes.
@@RealPlasmodium That would not surprise me.... Covid is fucking everything up.
Except Season 8 game of Thrones. That was so fucked even Covid didnt want to touch it.
When he went, "Wazzup!!" I laughed despite getting teary eyed while thinking of Castiel. 😭😂
If Chuck is now "just like us" then Death was right. "In the end I'll reap him too" because now he's just a human - which really, ultimately, makes no sense from a plot point of view.
Yeah.. no Julian Richings still sad.
@@pepethefrog6809 Right..I miss him
@@BC08 Yess..evidently not
Chuck is just a human now
@@Zephr238 a fitting end..right?
I still can't believe they pulled a Avatar: The Last Airbender ending for this show. Idk what to feel. Jack/Aang just took the powers away from Chuck/Ozai and they left the villain to rot.
Literally was going to say that💀
I would be mad too but the god actor is so cute for a brutal dealth lol
I didn't think of that comparison 😂 nice one yeah
They could've had a big fight with Micheal and Lucifer along with Winchesters and Cass and Jack, against Chuck, and in the end, Chuck/Micheal/Lucifer is locked out in the pit forever.
But Aang didn't lost his power since beginning, he only have doubt before his big battle against Ozai.
God snapping his fingers like he's Thanos over here 😂
Omg finally someone said it 😭😭
I read your comment normally in my head, until the last 2 words, then I instantly had an Italian accent over here!
Technically in Supernatural he is lol
suppernatural since season 4 been like that from 2008
More like Thanos snapping his finger just like god in spn.
Not gonna lie, Jack becoming God was super obvious.
His mom said before he was born he would save the world so yeah...no surprise
I honestly thought Jack was going to be Death with how he was killing the plants he walked nearby, and thus be able to 'reap' Chuck. I know that wouldn't of made sense since Jack wasn't a reaper, but Billie did put a lot into Jack so was pondering a transition of some sort.
Right I mean I saw that coming
@@junniper3 That is a good theory but how did you not see jack becoming God.
@@edg4rmt223 Saw it from different angles. The reaper one would be that there would be no 'gods' controlling the fate of anyone since Jack would of dispatched them and thus they now are free to make their own story.
I knew they were not going to give a repent to Chuck since they did that a few seasons ago when he and Amara made up. Would of been cheesy to do it again.
**Chuck snaps fingers**
"Battary discharged"
So God never sensed Jack basically sucking all his power away the whole time Jack is standing behind him ? WTF
He also did not see their plan coming, yeah it is kinda convenient.
@@Raximus3000 I would call it Bullshit.
It’s easy when ego gets in the way
Regardless of religious beliefs, Chapter 15 was awful Why?Look at Chuck's characterization Chuck is willing to sacrifice himself in previous series so that Amara does not destroy his creation But suddenly the 14th series becomes the enemy of humanity. Why?And what exactly is Jack God better than Chuck God?Chuck repeatedly rescued Sam and Dean's lives and returned to them
But why became the hated character of the story?And Chapter 15 questioned the whole story? Didn't Sam and Din have a choice in all these seasons
It is logically wrong at all Because Chuck beats Sam and Dean Winchester with divine powerAnd these blows were so strong that Jack absorbed those forces and defeated God But Sam and Dean Winchester did not even faint. It was very illogical
My biggest issue with leaving Chuck Alive is that we already saw what Metatron was able to do with just the tablets of God. The insta-power that those words brought gave him power unlike any other angel or demon at that point in the series. Can you imagine what a fully knowledgeable “Man” with all of Gods wisdom he gained over eons can do?
Even if you use the argument that he is just a human now with a human brain I still don’t think that applies given that when most other angels that lost their grace and became human...Cass and Metatron for starters...they retained all of their knowledge from when they were said angel. I would see no issues God doing the same, and possibly hot wiring the earth to blow up or something. He knows all, even if he only knew all up to that point before Jack touched him.
Less gained and just known. He made the universe, Heaven, Hell and Magic. He should be the most deadly thing in creation without Jack purposefully preventing him from doing things. So this act of mercy makes no logical sense.
Chuck if he wants to still be a villian has all the tools to be the greatest villian even as a normal bloke.
@@nm2358 no he doesn’t. He has no skills and no life. He will be a hermit on the street and be forgotten. Like the nothing he always was
At the very least he makes psychopaths and sociopaths blush and his death count makes ww2 look like a minor misunderstanding (that he probably orchestrated). On top of that he has a death wish that needs to be a blaze of glory and like you mentioned they don't know what he knows. His knowledge could make him the most dangerous person in the world his personality basically guarantees he is going to kill. They should have trapped him in a time loop or something where he'd be cut off and the rules he wrote wouldn't apply.
@@nm2358 it's not mercy. It's torture. All the people he ignored and let suffer, he's one of them now. One of the unimportant left to rot
he won’t be able to do anything because jack, unlike chuck is a very hands on god and doesn’t let evil rule the world
Jesus christ this has to be one of the most rushed endings I've ever seen lmao
It's still got a 2 hour episode next week
@@revelation2013 most of its behind the scenes
It was so lame omg, disappointed but not surprised
i was really hoping we would get a mention of jessica in this episode of even a sacrifice it just kind of built up and then went down so quickly
Feels it is gonna be Comparable to Game Of Thrones. And I'm not even a fan of that show. 😂
I really just feel bad for Adam
Same
Me too
RIP Adam!!
since Jack brought back everyone, Adam is probably in heaven since his body was destroyed by Chuck. Unless Jack brought his body back too, which is unlikely.
@@farruxal1515 my main question is can he bring back everyone else like mary,crowley,John and others.
Jensen didn’t like this. I stan a man with taste
How do you know??
@@aak1992 yea
@@aak1992 Jensen said in a panel that the ending didn’t sit right with him at first, and he had to talk to Kripke about it to be convinced
That makes me happy. It's so incredibly lame.
Yes but did Jensen mean this ending, or the one in ep. 20?
My favourite part.
JACK totally deserved this justice.. he was used and sacrificed by everyone on the show except castile.. I felt so bad for Jack.. despite being repeatedly hurt and blamed by everyone he still obeyed and stood by people and helped them despite the hate they gave him
Very Christ like without crossing that line.
i love jack so much, he couldn't take a break
Jack was nothing i knew from when they brought him into the show he was simply a means to an end to end the show.
They brought Lucifer and just killed him like that😭😭come on
The same with Lilith.
@@collinfrancis9956 Well Michael was always going to come back, the other archangels are toast save maybe Gabriel if he just sent a clone. Lucifer I thought maybe he would come back one last time.
@@collinfrancis9956 I thought the Empty put her back to sleep.
It's like in RPGs. The things have been leveling up since the first episodes. And now, when we all have reached the endgame, all we need to slay a mob, that once used to seem incomprehensible, is a simple finger snap. Just like in RPGs.
P. S.
I was a bit disappointed of how such entities as Lucy and Mike were written off though...
At least we got him back for a little bit still waiting on my boy crowley😭😭
Maybe it's just me but I am ok with this. The boys are safe.. for now..
yeah. i was so terrified they were gonna die. i hope they dont do it next episode 😭
@@sibanipanigrahy5509 I know! I'm nervous about finale!
@@chickenstrips_yourmum8824 don't say that 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@chickenstrips_yourmum8824 as long as they are all alive😭😭
@@chickenstrips_yourmum8824 Or even bring amara back as the new goddess
Okay so the power of 2 archangels, gods non lethal punches to humans, and some plant power stomps BOTH God and Amara when Amara alone required God and 4 archangels. That’s bullshit.
Lucifer snapping his fingers to kill Death despite the fact that Death could openly defy him during the apocalypse and he couldn’t do a damn thing about it and also the fact that Death was powerful enough to pop in and out of the cage without the use of the rings is also crap.
And did Jack just forget about Cas his father when reviving people? Did the boys forget he was dead after he literally just sacrificed his life for dean?
Seriously who wrote this episode?
I'm literally so mad about Cas' death being seemingly forgotten. He deserves so much better. His death scene was so powerful and in this ep it's like it never even happened.
There was so much that I didn't like. It felt like they backstepped on so much and didn't really resolve anything? Like sure they got rid of the big bad or whatever but none of the emotional stuff got anywhere close to being wrapped up
Supernatural is one of the most inconsistent shows I've ever watched. They haven't adhered to their own continuity and rules for years. I was eagerly anticipating the train wreck and they didn't disappoint. Such piss poor writers.
@manion25 True but I still don’t think that’d be nearly enough to beat God and Amara. Especially since Amara has shown the capacity to fatally wound god on her own and then save his life also on her own with virtually no time in between.
@manion25 and death also
'Seriously who wrote this episode?'
Same people who are just dying to pack it up, get their checks, go home take a dump and start writing that new episode for 'Top Secret Videos Season 1'.
The winchesters' plot armor at its finest..
"When you were punching us you release all sort of god power"..
I mean, a god punching two hunters had to release his god power to just "hurt" them... /Yikes
So Jack is a half angel with the power of God and the power of Darkness. That is a lot of power
Makes me want to borrow a quote from Star Wars by saying, "The Force is strong with this one", just for the heck of it.
Well, add in the power he absorbed from nature, lucifer and Michael, he’s literally way stronger than God and amara together
amara is inside jack..their in harmony
Amara could always separate herself from him.
@@HighLordoftheBathroom But she won't. The true God, Jack, has both Light and Dark inside them. As Jack said, they are in Harmony, as they were always meant to be. Amara and Chuck were conjoined twins that upon separation created the Big Bang. Thus putting Light and Dark on each side of a war against each other, but thats not how it is supposed to be. Light and Dark need to be together.
This is my speculation, however, I whole-heartedly believe that the reason that Jack and Amara are in true harmony and not forced acquisition and adoption of powers, like when Chuck absorbs Amara, is because of Jack's soul... Think about it... Chuck does not have a soul, and as such I don't believe Chuck had even the slightest actual understanding of love. Jack having a soul with the full understanding of love, has come to accept Amara as a necessary part in his life. He does not want her gone, as he knows he needs her. The only thing she truly ever wanted was the love of her Brother, however, since Chuck had absolutely no concept of Love, that was what caused Chuck to use Amara instead of treating her as an equal.
Plot Twist: Chuck was Metatron the whole time.
😂😂🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
Lol I was getting metatron vibes when he was on the ground cowarding and begging like a baby 🤣
That would be the only thing this season that nobody saw coming.
I would be very pissed off if that happens... MetaDouche, I hate him 😅
It’s that obsession about story writing thing that has me stuck on this conspiracy theory
I am trying to understand how Lucifer snapped Death out of existence..wtf
Me too. Original Death even belittles Lucifer. Now, in a snap he can do it
Remember when Castiel sucked up all the souls from purgatory? Remember how strong Cas was, he was able to snap Raphael an ARCHANGEL out of existance? And Cas was no match for death at all.. Fast forward to s15, Death gets snapped out of existance by Lucifer? It just makes no sense. These writers killed the show
Probably they went with the route that while the reaper who becomes death gets an upgrade in power they do not become an equal to the OG Death.
Well what I'm going with is, she had literally just became death. So her powers were still manifesting. The longer she would've been death the more powerful she'd become. But I don't know 😂
@Pedro araújo They were dead before Billie dies. Billie has to die first and then a new reaper can take her place.
Chuck losing his godhood, and being left with a seemingly blank book, in the middle of nowhere is perfection.
The author loses ownership of his creation, and never gets to know the end of the story, not until it's truly over
The irony to having a finish the entire fandom saw coming miles away - yet God didn't. There's a message about humanity in there somewhere but I'm not sure exactly what it is. LMAO
Average finale. Could've been better, could've been MUCH worse.
The reason why humans were 'favored' is that, despite all the talk of them being weak, predictable, and broken, they still surprise. IIRC there was some indication that angels had some jealousy or anger over this, since they serve God. And yet what are they to do? Help humans.
I mean yeah of course we all saw it coming just like I also saw Deaths plan because well if you know what she was like before she became death and how she’s a stickler for the rules it would make sense that she would want to return everything to where it belongs, The fact that Sam was surprised by that.
Isnt even the end yet got next week
Just be thankful it's not GOT season 8
@@danielaarroyo1622 Amen to that brother
I haven't watched season 15 yet, just random scenes but I damn near pissed myself laughing when Lucifer called Michael a cuck.
The way Chuck was "defeated is why I prefer Swan Song as the real ending.
Yes! Ive always thought that too
Way better
I dont know i find it poetic.He was so obssed to find a way how to avoided getting killed by someone and how he end this is ultimate punisment .for some this end may ne anti-clmaric but well no eyone can be pleased i personally like the end.
@@anniep.8771 It's just terrible writing makes a terrible episode, one of the worst in a while..
Jeffrey M. The entire season was bad. Obvious that the budget had been slashed but the writing was horrible. Too bad such a fine show goes out on such a poor note.
It's been over a year since the show ended and I'm still in my feelings because of of it.. I can still watch it from beginning to end on Netflix thank goodness for that 🖤🖤🖤 my favorite show of all time 🖤🖤🖤🖤
Yeah. I personally really loved how this episode came together. Next week is going to be a heartbreak for me. This show got me through some really tough times ,during a huge loss in my life.
Same here. Same here.
me too
@@camillesantos911terrible ending dying to a vampire they should have ended it here
I called this way back when God became the villain. Unfortunately this show went downhill and got super predictable
the moment jack was born he was going to be the new god
Sad thing we never got see half demon half angel hybrid
@@bemb4064 got a better prediction
The last episode is a filler
I agree. Literally everything that happened this season was predicted online by the fandom before season 15 even premired. Why would anyone end such an epic series in the most predictible fashion? This has been the most dull, boring season by far.
At season 14 finale yeah me too
The arrogance of Chuck saying He couldn’t imagine an ending where he loses.
Damn.. I dunno why Chuck reminds me Trump lol
Imagine being what you were and now just a regular guy...ouch
I guess omniscience doesn't mean everything
@@AggBaddie He can hear and see what happens across creation. He still has to actually look.
To be fair Rob Benedicts acting was by far the best thing this season. Love to hate.
God's fate can be considered the most iconic and epic form of revenge in the series: As God has prided Himself for always being able to manipulate events and have His way with the Winchesters, the fact that the Winchesters not only outsmarted Him completely but also stripped Him of His powers and decided His fate can be said to be extremely poetic: Instead of being killed in revenge by the Winchesters, the Winchesters decided that Chuck will live the life of a mortal in despair, forgotten and alone, as they knew that God had come to despise humanity and saw that God has to now live the same way as His once greatest creation did as being the most condemning punishment. The Winchesters even point out that God preferred dying after he became mortal and thus decided to settle with letting Him live a life of suffering as he gets sick, has to try to afford a living, and ultimately His existence will end in a mundane way as a mortal, which God Himself knows as He begged the Winchesters for mercy only to be cruelly left to accept His fate just like He left the Winchesters to the fate he decided for them mercilessly.
I can’t be the only one that sees the similarities between this and Avatar The Last Airbender’s ending.
I took away your bending😂
The Avatar Aang may have took away the firelords ability to bend but the Fire Lord wasn't God in that story he was just another evil emperor that needed to be taken down and every superhero story has similarities to that but in another senses it's completely different from this situation !
yooo wait YESSS THE REMOVAL OF POWER AND THEN JUST LEAVING HIM HUMAN HOW DID I NOT MAKE THIS CONNECTION
I thought the same thing.
The writer had to have been on A Last Airbender binge when writing this. 😂
@@Kelsie154 If you’re gonna copy, then why not copy from the best.
JACK was Super Quiet the last 2 Episodes Sucking Up Everybody's Powers. JACK + AMARA = UNSTOPPABLE 💪
@Man Of Iron The Natural Order is the only force truly omnipotent or the closest. Sure the rules of the universe can be bend or broken. But eventually they are restored. And that is the point of SPN everything even the immortals can find their death.
@Man Of Iron Jack cannot be killed period. Billie specifically said Chuck wrote himself into the story which is why he had a book and could die. In this episode Jack said writing himself into the story was Chuck's mistake one he wouldn't repeat.
and yet after that he still doesn't get dibs on riding shotgun. Jesus, what does a god have to do around here?
@@moneytalks1219 I'm not sure whether this is correct. I think she said that he wrote himself into the story because he had to, or the universe wouldn't work. Well if Jack is the new God and the univere is supposed to work, he'll have to do the same.
@@taftvalue no he wrote himself because he wanted to create out of thin air. Jack isn't going to create anything he would just let it be.
Like Mr.Miyagi saids for a person with no forgiveness in their heart , living is worse than death
Um great episode ,one question....was this episode the season finale?
@@dwill7234 I think there's one left and they have to restore the other universes and everyone else
@@callanflanagan8706 oh ok
I've lived without forgiveness for a long time. Miyagi was wrong. Its more fun and rewarding than you could ever imagine. I highly recommend it.
That show because so outrageous, I don't think I finished the last 2 season, and when I try to watch it, it feels like something was summoned in my house.
It feels like a part of my childhood just gave me a wave of farewell after watching this episode. (sobbings..) I remember it was 2009 when I met this show. I said to myself goodness is this the embodiment of my dreams or what? As long as you have some imagination in you, there's a spark of god. I guess that's the message now as you have 'the pen of god'. That could be the harbinger. Long time coming tho to see things tied up against a main source of suffering for all existing creatures. Please Jensen and Jared, if you ever come across this comment, accept my sincere salutations from the UK. I hope you guys will rule the game in brewery business in the next chapter. Btw, Burak Yilmaz from Houston sends his regards as well.
Jensen will appear on the Boys season 3 which the creator of supernatural created the show. Which is based on comic books. The Boys is awesome. It's on amazon prime. Jared is the next Walker texas ranger
Jack's power. Plus Lucifer's, Michael, Amara, and God's are all in him??? Holy Hell
The writers, actors, and other crew were able to take a show about two brothers that hunted monsters and demons, and made us want to tune in every week. Then they added angels, archangels, and the Four Horsemen and they were so good at weaving this reality that we didn't even question it.
But somewhere along the lines the writers lost their way. We got tired episodes of Sam and Dean rushing in, getting caught, and then being rescued by the person they were saving. Or the monster they were trying to kill has a change of heart (hearts, someone else's heart) and lets them live. They were no longer the skilled and experienced hunters we had seen them become and I hate that that was taken away from the fans. This God story line only cemented their inadequacies when it was essentially pointed out that their success was just God narrating-- Dean dies seemingly shortly after God is out of the story. God should have remained an offscreen character (and at least we would have been spared the scene of him saying guys stay down to a loop of the two of them being beaten--there is Covid and maybe the writers literally phoned it in).
i think we all want to think like that god offscreen but this is spn yo not real life and from the part where god has sister iam already losing my mind and YES the story is dragging to low direction each latest season some of them only watch for the actors 😂
This is why I couldn't watched it after the season 12, lost interest tbh.
Yeah, it jumped the shark hard.
Yeah around season 12 I stopped caring. In my opinion season 15 never happened. Sam and Dean asked chuck for forgiveness and he forgave them. Because that is what he does.
S6 was the turning point. It was really all a waste after that
I don’t know how, I don’t know why…but this show kept on trucking…may not have been the greatest seasons toward the end, but it was a show that did the impossible…
It kept raising the stakes, even when there were no more stakes to raise! Just brilliant! A show that jumped the shark, turned that into a win.
One of, if not THE greatest series ever made.
Everybody’s talking about how bad or predictable the episode was and I’m just glad that neither of my boys died. 😩
Also remember death also said he will reap god
You had no idea stop fronting.
Yes
@@henrymbida Hopefully...
Well yeah. You want fan service over good writing. Others want logical coherence in the internal laws of the supernatural universe and consistent writing over fan service.
Does anyone else love how Jack becomes "The New God" but still rides in the car with the winchesters? Lol
Sam and Dean all bloody and laughing absolutely sent me I love them so much
Sent you?
God/Chuck could be seen as an evil counterpart to Sam and Dean's father John Winchester. Dean, like Michael, would always follow their father's orders without question, although over time, Dean began to think for himself and defied his father, and stopped living in fear of him. But unlike Chuck, John still dearly loved his sons and was proud of them, and showed remorse at what life he had involved them in to achieve his goals. Plus unlike Chuck, John had reasons for what he had done (as he wanted to kill Azazel) despite the emotional impact it had on his sons, whereas Chuck only did the things He did for the sake of His stories and personal amusement.
What the F.... !!! Writers didn't know how to end, and then bam "humans beat the creator himself" oh come on man..... He's GOD, Not some chipmunk angel dammit !!!
Jack is an all powerful Nephilim, something that should never have came to be. God wanted him dead for a reason.
But the ending does feel rushed and many people already speculated about about Jack absorb Chuck's powers. So it's kinda disappointing to me, well atleast they got a happy ending.
@@skydreamer4225 COVID probably hurt things a bit.
@@skydreamer4225 I do not know about a happy ending, the series finale is still to come. A lot could happen.
@@Mictla155 I hope they will give us bittersweet ending, like the Final Ultimate Sacrifice or something like that. That will be better ending for show like this, I could only hope.
Avatar Jack vs Lord Chuck. Any arrowhead can see what this looks like lol
Chuck: what did you do!?
Jack: I took away your bending for good
@@QuickDeath02 Not the exact words but yup lol Avatar Jack! ⬇️
@@endopoth7 At least Jack was a better character then baldy.
@@godzillavkk No way! ⬇️💗
@@endopoth7 I don't recall Jack ever ditching responsibility.
I cant stop crying...
Loved the last Mark Pellegrino cameo as Lucifer: One of the most brilliant characters. Loved Alexander Carvert as Jack. Only a few of us used to believe in Jack character. He's so cute, played Jack with a delicate but resolute touch. Loved a wonderful Rob Benedict as Chuck the unexpected villian. I love you, boys. Thanks for these 15 years of wonders.
What will happen on 20th?
Oh God... ops... Oh Jack, I'll really gonna miss them!
I think the core concepts at play are really interesting. The idea of god being a vain artist works really well, and I love him being a villain. I loved the character and he was a welcome change from the usual evil for no reason demons/angels. And the idea of a creator being defeated by his own creation due to his arrogance is just a really interesting story.
But man, they really bungled the ending. So much wasted potential. They just rushed an ending and crowded it with so many random plot points that went nowhere. Why bring back Lucifer and Micheal for a total of 10 minutes that leads to nothing? Why does Chuck not have omniscience anymore? It makes no sense.
There was a way to handle this villain correctly and they did not succeed.
So the logic here is that : God uses his powers to beat up Sam and Dean, and Jack absorbs that energy and becomes god level strong.
Some issues with this... : God uses not even a fraction of his power beating up Sam and Dean.. If he used just a tiny bit he would've completely obliterated Sam and Dean.. Therefore it's easy to conclude that the power Jack may have absorbed from Chuck beating up Sam and Dean is so minimum it wouldn't be much...
Yep exactly, I talked about this.
he was already a black hole for divine energy. it was too late the moment he was brought back from the empty. the more he absorbed, the bigger a black hole's radius becomes until the range of no return reaches chuck. every time chuck tried to use his powers against jack just then sped up the process. it was only a matter of how fast the process would be.
I agree with this point. However, they pointed out that Jack has been absorbing power from all over the place, including Michael's and Lucifer's essences. So Jack is an Archnephilim (which already had Chuck nervous in S14) that absorbed the powers of the two most powerful archangels in existence before getting an unknown boost of God power. I'd also assume that he absorbed some God power from Chuck killing Michael as well as Death power from Lucifer killing Betty. That's a lot of power.
You forget jack got power from the fight of lucifer and michael and when chuck killed michael. So he absorbed a lot more power than when chuck was beating sam and dean prior to confronting chuck.
@@johnwinchesterp2963 Right. Jack absorbed Lucifer and Michael's powers. That's a LOT of power. But how does that EVER compare to god's powers? God simply created those archangels, he could simply create more. Their power comes nowhere NEAR his. And obviously Death's powers comes NOWHERE near god's power either, since Lucifer was able to snap her to death.
For someone who's omnicient, he never seen it comiiiiiiiiiiiiing. Yes, that was a Persona 5 reference.
Shin Megami Tensei God feels more like a literal God than this garbage
Imagine God a being that was the existence before there was an existence being killed by two human boys, real funny.
Top tier writing
Killed?
Well technically he didn’t die just powerless, second Jack took his powers while God beat the shit out of them. But ok
He didnt got killed. And sam and dean just jebaited him. Everyone can get jebaited,, god or not.
@@aki5970 uh God cannot get jebaited sorry.
My theory is chuck/god is tired and wanted to pass the responsibility to jack but he wanted to test him if he can fight a family member and if he is strong enough. I think he planned it all and wanted to be human in the end and live simply. I refused to believe that he just wanted to become evil and crap.
This!!!!!!
I believe so, after all he was a dead beat for centuries.
Absolutely wrong....horrible take!! 😂😂😂😂
Definitely felt rushed. This episode felt to me like a season ending and that the boys should be back next season. Like this shouldn’t be how the boys story ends. They should’ve been given a proper ending
It is the season ending... they said it themselves. Next episode, Ep20 is the SERIES finale where they hopefully get the much deserved ending. Hope this helps
Chuck's fate kinda illustrated Joan Osborne's "What if God was one of us"
Can I get a witness in the house?
i genuinely feel like all of you forgot that there is a 2 HOUR series finale next week......
Wym
No such thing happened.
Chuck would have known what was going to happen as he is omniscient.
Here's what I don't get, if Jack was absorbing energy without knowing it how was he not draining Sam and Dean's life force?
Right how was he not draining ALL life forms not just some like plants and cosmic Supernatural beings? Plants aren't "cosmic beings" or "divine energy" and if they wanna play the "God is in everything" card, that would still mean he is in humans and other animals, since everything is his creation. That part makes no sense to me either.
@@waywardwinchester Its bad writing. An entity that represents light and being can have the powers stolen and reduced to a human. Plus the blackhole should have happenned instantly after the explosion not a day or two plus vacuuming few archangels power plus few punches to overpower chuck.
Honestly if they were gonna go with the Cosmic Bomb plot device (again🙄) this is how they should've done it: When Jack blew up and reformed, his body retained the power of the bomb. This way when Jack faces off against Chuck he's more powerful in an organic way, it makes sense in terms with the story. This would make Billie's plan actually matter and not just cause a last minute ass pull. I will always love this show but the writers have not done it justice the last few seasons.
Plot armor even protects them from God himself.
@@thomasraines1396 lol yeah but in this case it protects them from Jack.
This is a much worse punishment for Chuck that just dying right away. I freaking love.
Lmao he is God. You really think with all his knowledge he can't get that power back? And more 😂 it's bullshit anyways if a god wanted someone dead they wouldn't be able to stop it.
@@xdrixzy Ok? Your point l? They can't make Chuck too powerful otherwise the show would end as soon as he was revealed to be bad. Calm down Mr. Keyboard Warrior! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I guess what they say is true in the end: "There are fates even worse than death."
Being a regular dude???? Is worst than death?????
@@JasmineGeminiDragon For Chuck? Yes it is. He had such views and contempt for humanity; or nearly anyone and anything almost.
Death is, normally, permanent. But to end up becoming one of the things, ex a human, that he possibly hated? Yes, I feel like he’d much prefer being dead than ‘existing’ in such a state.
@@jpshushumoo4048 Oh I know lol. Supernatural is known for things making a ‘come back’ in some way.
That’s why I put that death is ‘usually’ permanent. I know we’re talking about a show that has no real issue with bending some ‘rules’ lol...
As someone who doesn’t actually watch this show (lol) I was struck by how much Jack looks like Castiel, especially at 0:14. Are the actors related somehow?
It was a running joke among the cast and crew, but no, no relation in show and in life
@@tristinkesick6729 Ah ok, thank you
I stopped watching this show (which I LOVED) many seasons ago bc of the drop in quality... watching this just confirms it. This feels like a spoof.
@lol lol don’t want to waste my time watching that lol
Yeah ok
I agree. It should have ended on Season 5.
i stopped after they introduce death and thats enough for me
@@imanafdar but the death is top 5 most badass character. s6-s7 Is kinda suck the most low quality season is probably around s10. but i like the s8 where the all angels were falling from heaven.
Ok everyone forgot this part of what jack is half of. And why it makes him the strongest.
Woman?
Human.
Bs, cas killed a nephilim easily with metatron, and the whole "arch-nephilim is stronger than the archangel who sired it" was lame, they basically just gave him a straight line shot to be able to absorb energy and transfer it to himself no matter who it is or who was stronger than him. For the sake of convenience. I'm not pleased with this conclusion. Even if he ate all the archangels and angels and everything in creation it wouldn't have given him the power to counter chuck. Them giving him the ability to absorb chucks essence doesn't make sense either as a created being can't overpower the one who created it. But good on spn for so many years, I still remember when it first started, back om cw in the days of one tree hill and gossip girl lol.
@@Oromanowarful How was it for the sake of convenience, considering Jesse from season 5, who'd been sired by a low level demon, was powerful enough to kill angels just by saying it? And let's not forget he was still a child, nonetheless. Then lore state ALL nephilim could grow much stronger even than their angel parents, so when a son of Lucifer himself shows up and ends up being much more powerful than Lucifer (which was already expected by anyone who'd been paying attention to the lore), it is suddenly a lame plot device? Besides, "created being can't overpower creator", well, it has happened multiple times throughout the series, so I don't see why it can't happen xD It is not like it came out of nowhere, anyone who paid attention to the series would eventually come to that conclusion. Hell, I immediately knew something was up when Lucifer conceived that child. Particularly by the time God/Chuck became a villain and "killed" him.
@@thayspamacheno628 well I'm not trying to say it came out of nowhere, what I take issue with is his level on the hierarchy would place him around Michael or just above him if you wanna high ball him, so how does he go from being at that range (which is plenty powerful mind you) to being a cosmic vacuum that can eat up chuck and probably amaras power? What im saying is it only made sense in the fact that they were trying to finish the show. I understand about Jesse but don't forget back then they said the only thing that can kill an angel is another angel they retconned that later on. Cas said jesses power was active only when lucifer walked the earth iirc? I'd have to rewatch the episode. I'm a bit sad the series is over for now but I'm sure we'll see them again somehow. I just wish it wasn't to every problem the boys have jack is their answer thats what I didn't much care for, I think jack is cool and all but him blowing up in the empty doesn't make sense for him to suddenly be able to absorb power from any and everything. Also I wasn't trying to sound too harsh I just don't see someone maybe just above arch level to suddenly be able to defeat the maker of their universe. Its similar to how he beat au michael, without his powers lol it made no sense. If he burned off his human soul with no angelic powers at the time to kill an archangel then couldn't ANY human do that? They specifically said he's a human soul with archangel powers which makes him stronger than both parts eventually, but he didn't have his powers when he killed that michael. Thats what I mean by convenience. In that same way, he dies for a second then pops right back as if it didn't happen so them getting sad or angry makes no sense. Sorry I'm going on and on.
This is so weird but I woke up crying as I was having a dream of Dean and Sam Winchester driving away in the sunset. The ending was just so beautiful it made me tear. The journey has been so amazing and blissful. Thank you Supernatural.
Imagine if this was the biblical version of God...
Dude wouldn’t have stood a chance
Hell, the vast majority of what happened in this show wouldn't have happened.
Or allah of islam
@@zeroronaldo9313
Or literally any deity from different religions
@@orochimaru3027 no i have read alot of mythology and know every god had a weakness but the god of abraham is strong as hell he litery has no enemies other mythology loje odin has loki as enemy zeus has his father as enemy shiva lost his head to another god
@@zeroronaldo9313
No I mean the deities of the main religions today
Like Islam, Hinduism, Christianity/Judaism, etc.
Poetic justice. Since god created sickness and death, then god will die by his own hands.
Yep! That is defiantly what you call a cruel irony.
@@toddschouweiler3623 yeah very ironical since if you remember in s11 Chuck said that acting is fun and now he is stuck in a role that he doesn't want
@@wallacewallaby5782 Very good point. Except that all spells not only need the knowledge of how it is to be casted, but requires certain ingredients as well. The more powerful the spell, the more rare the ingredients. As a human with enemies in both heaven and hell, neither angels nor demons would be inclined to help the erstwhile god get the ingredients he needs.
@@HighMojo other than the magic side of it... he would be the best scientist in the history of ever.
Nothing poetic about this. Just a bunch of nonsense. There's nothing about it that makes sense, either.
İmagine Jack absorbs Shadow, Darkness, death's powers
Wait didn’t he do that chuck also had amara’s powers In this fight so jack technically absorbed amara’s powers to the question is did he absorb e the empty and billy when he exploded in the empty
Amara is actually in Jack’s body as we speak. I imagine the series finale will be Jack restoring everyone and then releasing Amara. I’m curious if he will grant Sam and Dean a life they want now.
@@OWO-xm1tm I believe he absorb Shadow's power or Billie(When injured by Dean) When it exploded, it still damaged to Shadow's physical form.
@@ugurkaraalioglu2813 I think he started getting the power after Billie took him out of the Empty. Them Empty was not weakened at all, it just got hurt and pissed.
@@ugurkaraalioglu2813 No... If he absorbed the Empty's power. Then how was it able to come to earth and kill Castiel and Death?
I cant be the only one who thought jack would become to new death. Not god.
Yeh .frist i thouth that when we see how flowers start to die when he is close to them ..
@@anniep.8771 That's because he sucked their energy.
“That’s not who I am.” In real life, who says this? Yet this is one of Hollywood's favorite phrases. It's like the same bad writers are in charge of everything.
Lol What if God was one of us?
Just a slob like one of us?
Just a Stranger on a bus?
Tryna make his way.....HHoooooooooOoOOOOOOMMME!
3:55
"What kind of an ending is this?"
The fastest one to shoot so production can wrap and Jensen can start work on The Boys S3.
0:02 when u are fighting with your brother and your mom open the door😂
I'm kind of a fan of the idea that Chuck had sort of planned this, but not necessarily to the extent people think. I think he genuinely wanted to retire and have someone take over the mantle. He did do the job for literally billions of years, but given how Jack is lucifers son and God's hatred of nephilim, I do genuinely think he didn't want Jack to take the position but instead sort of accepted it after his power was sucked
I L O V E D this moment and as a rule I loved this episode. I do need the emotional thrulines to be addressed more in the finale. Castiel, Eileen, Charlie... Need to see them.
I thought chuck's final moment were cool and Jack becoming god was neat but I also need the more emotional stuff to be brought up. Cas literally died last episode and he gets mention, what, twice here? Eileen isn't even mentioned at all from what I can remember too. I'm mad about what they did bc it overall felt anticlimactic. I want things to be better and I want things they just dropped in the mission to end Chuck to be brought up again. Let the boys cope with the loss of a best friend, even though I think it would have made much more sense for Jack to bring back Cas since he thought of him as a father and I don't think he would have just left him dead. Let Sam be happy with Eileen,,, he deserves it. Let them enjoy things and also heal from hurt now that there isn't a looming threat
Don’t forget joe and Ellen 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
At least someone liked this episode, imo i think it was one of the worst episodes they've made in a while..
@@Jeffy-331 I think it had a sizeable flaw, which was that it was emotionally incomplete, because we expected to see our other characters brought back. But otherwise... I enjoyed.
thanks for everything over the years Wayward Winchester! you have been amazing. we appreciate all you do.
I honestly feel like a fair trade-off for this episode would be to rethink and redo the really bad parts of this episode, and really incorporate more things such as Dean/Amara's relationship, Michael and Lucifer coming back, and giving Jack a bit more of a "logical" explanation to his power vacuum effect, such as Billy knowing that if the plan failed it would still turn Jack into said power vacuum, or if the Empty had some involvement with it, and incorporating the fact that The Empty himself said that NO ONE had reign over his place, but that's just thinking out loud. The best thing would've been seeing a much smoother, and better ending and episode as a whole, for the trade off of it taking much more time to air.
I love to think that this was all according to Chuck’s plan and he wanted Jack to become God, Him being the big bad was his plan for everything to lead up to Jack becoming God.
same theoryyyy omg
Nah that was never implied at all in the series by any being on his level like Amara or the empty and I wouldn't change that either. God being a villain was a cool concept and his character being the way he is makes perfect sense how he created life for entertainment really.
Chuck beating Sam and Dean was “God-level power”!?
Didn't the Angel's say that Chuck is constantly emitting energy in an earlier season?
@@RealPlasmodium , I honestly I don’t remember. I’d have to go back and rewatch the old seasons.
Yes, just because sam and dean didn't get combusted doesn't mean that it wasn't god power. Chuck was putting in the needed power for Sam and Dean to still be alive, To put it simply Chuck was holding back.
Well, atleast Michael was killed by his own father. I really thought Lucifer defeated him but OG Michael finally killed him for good. RIP Michael, always my favourite Archangel
Nah gabriel
Michael is to much of a good soldier. Gabriel was a do his own thing archangel and the youngest. That is why I love Gabriel as a character. He saw things so differently than the other three.
Gab was always mine lol
I was talking about Michael as my favourite, why does people bringing Gabriel out of nowhere? 😂😂
Michael my favourite as well
“In the end, I’ll reap him too”
“God? You will reap god?”
“Oh yes...god will die too dean”
Not jack though but god himself
Haha
now the Betty death has died, Hope he came next for the final episode and reap the now de-powered God. That would fulfill what he said
@@gooddreams8495 yes
What if og death is also Omni poten trick god 🤔🤔 that he died to think about it they messed it up the 4 are death , god, Amara , empty
Jack will die also....there is no difference...death was just saying no matter how powerful ill always catch up
the moment jack survive the "unsurvivable" power bomb, the smell of the plot is kinda obvious, although it's funny chuck not even bat an eye on that
Didn't they say that they had to change the ending because of Covid? And that there was supposed to be a big fight with more people but couldn't bc of restrictions? Maybe that's why this is a little lackluster. Although, idk when this episode was filmed, maybe it *was* before covid restrictions 🤷🏽♂️
Was filmed after covid hit. They hadnt filmed the last 2-3 episodes. They was gonna bring more ppl back(so they said anyways) but covid took that away..
@Manuel Castro Covid won't have a cure for at least another year. You're asking for something the studio can't even do. They physically can't delay it anymore. The fact that it was even delayed this much is due to the announcement back when the entire world was in fear of the virus, shutting down basically everything world wide.
@Manuel Castro They are already talking about coming back in a few years for a limited season like Gilmore Girls did.
@@chelljo1469 that would be so cool!
When the boys fight Amira, Chuck mentioned that it took serious power and time to create the 4 arch angels. Each arch angel would need sufficient power to stand against Amira and not be snapped away. Jack absorbed the two most powerful.
The time and power thing was a lie,he resurrected luci no problem
Really, this episode basically destroyed the whole power scaling in the series. God losing like that, Michael thrown out by Lucifer, and Jack a living being able to swoop him like that??? The whole Death plot line is now basically a bulldozer. At least the boys survived, don’t wanna know more. Whole thing was complete rushed, completely out of context. An infinite COSMIC being just blitzed like that. I guess by this point after watching other stories and literature ALMOST ANY series can axe its ending. Michael killing Lucifer is just a page needs writing FAST, NOTHING close impressive. A villain built up, with the huge power-up, gets rendered like this in the end. God is basically a victim of producer’s terrible plot ideas. My DoorDash order was cancelled for the FIRST time as I was trying to watch the finale. Ordering a burger and fries for this historical event. By then I knew OUR real God was gonna troll me. At least in the end Michael’s death was avenged. Chuck destroying his most loyal child was absolute dickmove.
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@@raheemcamal998 NOT KIDDING, it really happened for the FIRST time DoorDash cancelled my order. I was gonna enjoy this finale with a burger and large fries from Five Guys. But then I got a notification that my order was CANCELLED due to Dasher’s problem. When I saw that I knew this DAY was a WORSE day for me. First time Cancellation order and train wreck episode of the series a coincidence?????? Some unseen force is at play with me here. NOT KIDDING
@@harrybrown6328 I know the feeling 😂
As a script writer this is one of the most idiotic things I've ever seen in a script, Jack himself says he's in every raindrop, so you mean to tell me that Chuck wouldn't have known that Jack has been absorbing energy since?, Secondly, Chuck created infinite realities, it's just a couple of battles that gave jack enough energy to absorb him?, Thirdly Chuck basically exists in everything and thanks to Amara being absorbed he can Destroy everything, so essentially he would simply reform in Jack if Jack could even absorb him to begin with, mind you jack still exists within his creation and Chuck is not like his creations, they are extensions of himself, so by one absorbing more of the other, Chuck will simply push jack out of the wheel and reform, this is a classic example of dabbling into concepts you don't understand and writting rubbish in the end, moreover Chuck could have killed them all anytime he wanted, this guy exists as a single entity through time, he can see past present and future simultaneously, so he could have gone back in time and killed Lucifer before jack was made, among a long list of other things, to put this simply it was impossible for Chuck to loose, that's why an entity like that should have been left out entirely
Exactly
Archangels were more intimidating. Honestly, after 7th season, it's all downhill.
I really like SPN, but in a power perspective, the show should've ended back in season 5
Tbh I think season 11 or 12 is when the series went downhill especially when they introduced jack
Cheese 1 Same. For me the show should’ve ended in season 5 or in season 11.
@@Cheese-sk4ky honestly, for me, the leviathans were the point of no return but I honestly thought Jack would turn out to be an ace in supernatural revival.
@Christopher Bradish Exactly! The first time Raphael & death were introduced I had goosebumps. Michael was soooo big of a cosmic entity that he had to be summoned by a high ranking angel. But now they hangout with Death, Michael, Lucifer and God in the same room.
Chuck was one of my favorite characters wise, bitter and in the end regaining faith in humanity. Suddenly he comes back and is Lucifer on steroids.
Same
Him leaving with Amara in S11 was sweet. Then you watch this and it's like they're not even the same character.
If you look at what previous characters said about him it all makes sense
Plot-twist: It was part of god's story to let the boys and Jack believe that Jack absorbed his power, leaving god powerless.
That's the only logical way to end this mess.
@@henrymbida I don't think next week's part of the story as it concluded in this episode, it's just going to be a farewell episode..
Does nobody talk about how Rob Benedict’s performance as Chuck is by far the best thing about the scene?
I had a gut feeling that Jack was going to become the new God this whole season yep I was right.
15 years and they don't have enough budget to give us a good ending. What's the 2hr finale for? Rob and Jack was not credited for the final episode.
@@henrymbida No. He's not credited for the final episode.
@@henrymbida Maybe Chuck became Jack?
This ending is so bad Chuck should of came to his senses
It really bugs me that Chuck isn’t omniscient anymore. He wrote their lives before, no?
I feel you