STOICISM | The Power Of Indifference (animated)
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- Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024
- Is indifference a power?
This is an introduction video about the ancient Greco-Roman philosophy of Stoicism. Some things are up to us and other things are not up to us. How to we tell the difference and how to approach these things?
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When an unstoppable force meets indifference the indifference yawns and says another....
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Thank you for your videos. They are really helping me. I want to look into your book-does it come in large print option? I never heard or learned about Marcus Aurelius’ philosophy. Only about Aristotle, etc. This is amazing.
had no idea you guys published books
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"The problem is not the problem, the problem is your attitude about the problem." - Captain Jack Sparrow.
A great philosopher indeed
“Tis nothing good or bad, but thinking makes it so.” - William Shakespeare
“Everything is neutral.” - Buddhist saying
Iksbrown Amen
"The only rules that really matter are these: what a man can do and what a man can't do. For instance, you can accept that your father was a pirate and a good man or you can't. But pirate is in your blood, boy, so you'll have to square with that some day. And me, for example, I can let you drown, but I can't bring this ship into Tortuga all by me onesies, savvy? So, can you sail under the command of a pirate, or can you not?"
Also, why is rum gone?
Indifference to things we can't control is definitely an aspect of stoicism, but stoicism does demand that we are extremely attentive to our actions in the world and their effects. For example, we should be unaffected by a toxic person who tries to bring us down, but should be very attentive to our own actions in order to avoid being that person.
They say a man is tested twice in his life. Once in poverty, and once in wealth.
Edit, when you comment “I can’t wait to be tested in wealth” it means youre failing the poverty test.. 😳
@Ligeia D.Aurevilly true I have been tested twice in death
@Ligeia D.Aurevilly that I'll do anything to start over to be better than I was at that time almost dying 2 times really put a change in me
City Nights Vaporwave im the same eithrr way, ive had wealth and luxury and family and ive had nothing but myself and an empty room .. yet im still the same
@@marleykun Amen to that
Give me wealth to travel the world!!
“Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to truly test a man’s character, give him power.”
- Abraham Lincoln
Says the guy who suspended habeas corpus, arrested journalists & instituted a draft. Lol
Sir Mount Well i’m not even American so what would i know haha 🤷♀️
TheDigSite Fair enough!
Ooo, that’s brilliant. I like it 👍
I don't want to mess up with Lincoln, but you don't give power for testing, because if you are mistaken it's over
4:30 Little note: "Memento mori" doesn't only mean "Remember that you will die"; it can also be read as "Remember that you are just a mortal man, doomed to die".
That's why when he was cheered by the crowds Marcus Aurelius paid a poor to stay be his side and whisper in his ear "Memento mori": in that instance it wasn't just "You will eventually die", it was more "Don't let yourself be fooled by the cheers: you are not a god but merely a mortal man".
Good addition. Thank you! I might do a video on Memento Mori in the future so your feedback is very useful.
Thanks!
I beg to differ. Perhaps Marcus Aurelius’s body has completely decayed and hasn’t been working for millennia, and perhaps he can no longer share his thoughts to the populous so that he can live with fame and glory, but he isn’t forgotten. Marcus changed the lives of hundreds of thousands, if not, millions, and even to this day, we still remember him and his lessons, so even though his mind and body are no longer with us, his legacy, a part of him, still lives.
@@aname4141 Yes, that's correct, but it doesn't make him a god. He was conscious that he changed a lot of lives and that his intellectual work would have survived for uncountable years, but also that he was nothing more than a man, not different from me and you.
I'll have 6 of one and half a dozen of the other.
My mom was just sent to a nursing home. (I am fourteen) I was well aware we would never be able to see her again, but I did not cry. A nurse confronted me asking how I stayed emotionally calm, to which I responded "There isn't anything I can do against her dimentia. It's been going downhill for my entire life, now I must find a way to live on my own." I care about my mother greatly, but I figured out after countless breakups, deaths, suicides, neglect, my father leaving, etc. that it does not help to stay distraught, but to move forward.
Wow... that's a lot of wisdom beyond your years ..and truthfully there those that go through their entire adult lives and never achieve that kind of reasoning ability .. you currently have... it will serve you well in the times we're coming up on here in the future...
When I was your age, RUclips didn't exist yet, so don't worry about it.
'What does that have to do with anything?' you might ask.
Absolutely nothing!
Wow u r strong
Nicholas Reese for a 14 year old you have much wisdom. We cry when we need to cry. It's cathartic. But sometimes I have found myself in situations such as you described and tears did not come. Most people expect you to cry. You can be shredded apart inside and be unable to cry. Tears have to come naturally. You have to deal with things in your own way.
I guess you have gained much wisdom by suffering.. Pain is the best teacher in life
Meditations by Auerelius is a book everyone should read. We need to bring philosophy back to living the virtuous life too, not just academic arguments
Agreed.
I’ve never understood why ethics and philosophy are not taught alongside math and science.
@@bubbercakes528 Same, I had to optionally choose it as a class in my later years of school before I got to study it. Much more important than learning about quadratic equations in my opinion
Philosophy was not made to show how well read you are, it was made for everyone to have critical thinking and be able to consider different perspectives and determine which one made more sense. It's awful nowadays it is considered a useless knowledge to have and can't even see inconsistencies in arguments. A lot of people just follows whatever latest trend comes along and adhere to whatever perspective a celebrity has.
Stoicism in particular seems to be the mental medicine the world needs. The every man’s philosophy. Not abstract or aloof, but practical and useful.
"Don't be afraid to die, be afraid that you never start to live"- Marcus Aurelius
The question is how to start living
@@salmasoso2055 childhood living is easy to do the things you wanted I bought them for you graceless lady you know who I am you know I cant let you slide through my hands wild horses could not drag me away
I've been at peace ever since I've stopped expecting any good from others and stopped caring about day to day life out of my own control but to look towards the ultimate goal for me and work towards that.
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Seems like a very good strategy.
Exactly
Death?
Chúc mừng bạn.
I had a high school teacher who once said I was so stoic. I never really knew if he meant it as a compliment or not. But now, nearly 30 years later, I’ve decided to take it as a compliment. 🤔
One of my favourite quotes is, "I do not concern myself with that over which I have no control".
Grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference 🌱
That which cannot be remedied, must be endured...
There is nothing which cant be remedied in the long run. Either in our lifetimes, or, in the future, based upon the work we will do, even for a future we may not see.
@@curious_one1156 wrong
That which cannot be endured must be remedied
This means don't give up
@@pauldow1648 good luck
I thought I was just lazy and apathetic turns out I'm just a smart philosophical genius. Now if you'll excuse me I'm gonna go and take a nap.
Humor in plain clothes. Thank you.
Hey Dudest
You made me chuckle
THANK YOU. 😊
Nice
Well, the dude abides.
Don't forget to "have sex with any woman you want" on the way to your nap...
“Who are you Gladiator?”
“SERVANT OF THE TRUE EMPEROR MARCUS AURELIUS!”
Release the prisoners. There was a dream of Rome...
Go to them.
Stupid inaccurate movie
now I have to go and watch it again
Father of a murdered son husband of a murdered wife and I will have my revenge whether now or in the afterlife
@@ricardomartin6961 k, boy...
This video holds true. I remember when i was very sick and on dialysis. Doctors said i didnt have much left to go, Those days going in and out of the dialysis center were some of my most peaceful and surreal days ive ever experienced. Accepting death has given me a gift or a wisdom of sorts.
Are you still alive right now? Just wondering. I hope you are.
wow...youre like that man from 'Meet Joe Black'..i suggest if u havent seen it....even the grimm reaper wouldve been fascinated by your attitude towards death sir!
@@kcx2678 i am alive
@@matthewoneil8037 Glad to hear from you. : ]
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Hôm nay, tôi mới đọc được chia sẻ này từ bạn. Chúc bạn tâm thường an!
Memento Mori:
"Remembering that I'll be dead soon is the most important tool I've ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything, all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure; these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart." -- Steve Jobs
Nội dung bạn chia sẻ hay đấy.
My Grandma had an embroidery on her wall that read:
"An Irishman's Philosophy
"There are only two things to worry about in life: either you are healthy, or you are sick. If you're healthy, then there's nothing to worry about. If you're sick, there are only two things to worry about: either you'll get better, or you'll die. If you get better, there's nothing to worry about. If you die, there's only two things to worry about: either you'll go to heaven, or you'll go to hell. If you go to heaven, there's nothing to worry about. If you go to hell, you'll be so busy shaking hands with old friends that you won't have time to worry.
"Why worry?"
My Grandma had the same embroidery
Ok I’ve never heard that before but that might make its way on to my wall very soon. Very clever.
Thats a good one.
Luv dat paddy
I'll drink to that...
The philosophy of stoicism changed my life. I wish someone told me this before, I wouldn't have wasted years of my life complaining and worrying about things that don't matter. Better late than never I guess. Thank you for this video.
Chắc chắn rồi, muộn còn hơn không. Chúc mừng bạn!
I'm pretty sure my grandma knew this. She had a plaque that read: "Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference." Apparently Reinhold Niebuhr was a stoic.
That was the serenity prayer by st Thomas Aquinas
Or she was a recovering drunk like I am (it's also considered the serenity prayer in support groups)
@@Perennial1997 Not according to researchers.
Và điều này không "xin" ai bằng "xin" chính mình cho mình điều này.
HH the Dalai Lama said: “Pain is inevitable, but suffering is optional.”
Pain and suffering are inevitable
... Every ten days and suffering is inevitable for me buddy. Remember that.
Biblical wisdom teaches differently. It says that if Christ suffered than we must suffer too.
Suffering is something you inflict on yourself, pain is something you don't have control over.
@@geethw7083 That's nonsense. What you're doing here is you're spinning the language to suit your goal.
So I was practicing stoicism without knowing
Same. Found out when I watched Gotham
Same damn
@@rujotheone Gotham? How?
@@rujotheone I wanna know too. what gotham gotta do with it?
@@fatboyRAY24 I checked up stoicism as a way of life after this episode
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"Learn to let go of that which you fear to lose". (Yoda)
"Yes My Master " - Anikan Skywalker 1 Day Before Killing The Jedi Order
Hahahahahahaha
Yea the worst advice give to Anakin in his moment of need.
Yap. He applied that teaching really well.
the godhand
Then its off to kill the younglings
It’s crazy how I’ve had so many of these ideas in my head for such a long time without knowing there was a whole world for it
Vì thế nên đừng tưởng trong thế giới này nhìn rộng lớn thì có vẻ có muôn kiểu cảm nhận khác nhau. Thật ra thì chỉ có mấy chuyện xảy ra tới lui và biến tấu đôi chút.
Vì thế đừng xem nhẹ bản thân, vì tất cả đều có kết nối lẫn nhau, không hề có sự tách rời, không ai có cảm giác nổi bật khi họ chỉ còn sống trên thế giới này một mình.
“I've got the guts to die. What I want to know is, have you got the guts to live?”
― Tennessee Williams
Actually dying is the less eventfull thing in life
Barefoot Sue said something like; "pain is simply a sensation. Information traveling from the external environment, through your physical body, to your brain. Its up to you to decide if it has power over you, or you over it"
I have been applying this to everything, including emotions. This has improved my quality of life quite a bit and has been a great tool in addressing trauma.
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It will inspire me to no end that an EMPEROR, a person who very much had so much tactile control in life, ended up writing a book about what was not in his control, and how to accept that.
"Am I disappointed? Yes.
Am I surprised? No."
caveat lector:
The constant state of middle school teachers, people watching politicans fuck things up and people who have rambunctious pets
...and, do I welcome disappointment? Yes, because I welcome the challenge and look forward with gratitude to the possible positive outcome.
Stoicism provides strategies and techniques for developing psychological resilience and emotional strength. In a sense, ancient Stoicism was the origin of all ‘self-help’ and its ideas and techniques have inspired many modern approaches to personal development.
"Be indifferent to what makes no difference"
- Markus Aurelius
Stoicism is a great philosophy which fascinates me! I am usually a deep thinker and it sometimes confuses or upsets people, which I don't mind because I don't care what other people think about me!
I live by Spike Spiegel's quote from Cowboy Bebop "whatever happens, happens." Helped me through a lot of life events, and made me go from Doomer to Bloomer.
Que sera, sera.
Chúc mừng bạn!
It took many trials and hard experiences to realize that I have no control. The next step is accepting them and processing events as neither good or bad. They just are.
Hi! This was the opening video of a growing collection of Stoicism content. Check out the Stoicism playlist for more: ruclips.net/p/PLDVYjnosumiCf_QywoC8AAyowGym6b6-j
You do great work . Thank you so much for putting this out there , it has been very reinforcing to me , gives greater strength in my inner convictions , that were as yet , not fully realized , or conceptualized clear enough to condense and take stronger action within , like a muscle , or memorizing math to use later without hesitation , thanks again ~
Thank you for these videos. You are doing something important with this medium. Far may it propagate.
If you take requests: Please talk about Diogenes (the other one) and the Cynics.
I was wondering if you can make a video on stoicism and the pursuit of love. (Not dating) is going after someone you love and feeling them pull away in your control or out of your control? You might have done something wrong, not doing something, not done something or didnt go about it the right way. Is it within stoicism to be let down with your failure, and persuing a pleasure? Or should you just take it as something not in your control? Love to know what you think.
Christian Butterfield.
Doood. You are dope
Thank you for subtitles in Spanish
We have four core values, as Marcus Aurelius is known to have popularized based off of the writings of Zeno, Epictetus, and Cleanthes:
Courage, Justice, Temperance/Discipline, and Wisdom.
Resonated so much with me. Especially seeing yourself from the cosmos. That’s literally me. It makes u feel small and it’s an amazing feeling. U know life is...sth to not take too seriously but meaningfully if that makes sense. If we keep on worrying too much we’re taking it too seriously. If we say- I have a goal in this life, I’m a traveler of time, so let’s not worry and give back to this world- you’ll feel a bit free. Your worries, your situation...everything, is not yours. You are just part of it right now. But nothing is yours. You are energy in this existence. Don’t take it too seriously. Detach. See the world from afar. You’ll realize that you are so small and much more than just a human being.
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Hrmm, I rather liked the video but the title... Stoicism isn't indifference, it's acceptance which is wholly different. It's not not caring, it's understanding that your emotional response to a situation (of which caring may be the response) will not change the situation if it is out of your control. And if you are in control your initial emotional response is likely to be worse than a reasoned one.
Agreed, I also think the word equanimity is a better descriptor.
I increasingly rely on my emotional responses if they have good reason. I think I am mature enough to meditate on my actions
Some people will perceive it as indifference that’s why I think he chose that word.
Great comment. Only I wouldn't use the word control, as you have. It isn't even being in control of your emotional response, in the sense of repressing emotions. It's having the discipline to not let the emotional response that is there to dominate your thoughts and actions. This might seem like a semantic difference, but I believe self-control is an attempt at a shortcut to self-discipline. It's the difference between showing restraint and being repressed.
It can very easily be interpreted as “don’t bother trying to change things”.
Then it gets into Confucian “accept bad things”.
" When you know nothing matters the universe is yours" - Rick Sanchez
@Z Z nope
I can't thank you enough for putting together this beautiful masterpiece... My life is slowly getting better thanks to your video.. I exercise these principles everyday in various circumstances and I can feel the power.. finding the direction I have been missing
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"ALWAYS REMEMBER - Do not let your indifference be the difference that prevents you from making that difference"
“ A REAL MAN’S TRUE PERSONALITY COMES OUT WHEN WE PLAY MONOPOLY “
I can't believe i've been practicing stoicism without even being aware of it. This is the first time i heard about the term and i can't help but think "if only someone taught me about this in the past". I learned about it myself through failures and bad bad mistakes in my life, i really did learned it the hard way. I hope i can spread this wisdom to people around me, and i hope people would do too.
"Give me coffee for things which can be changed and wine for things which cannot"
Câu này mới nghe thì hay hay nhưng nhìn kỹ thì không có nghĩa gì.
Có nhiều người họ chơi trò chơi "hãy gọi món thức uống, tôi sẽ biết bạn là người như thế nào". Cái này đúng là trò chơi, chỉ là trò chơi, trò chơi gây vui nhộn chốc lát. Như kiểu hài nói bịa đặt gây cười. Trò này một số MC hay chơi.
KNOW THY SELF. Most of us have no clue of what drives our bus.
If it's not the bus driver, you should run
Maybe that's because they ride a 400 mile an hour train.
I would like to know where this bus is headed tho
William Paul YES, until this is accomplished all else is left to chance.
A friend of mine started going to a Cognitive Behavioral Therapist and found it's really helped him with his emotional issues and personal relationships. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (or CBT) is most basically a theory which states that emotional reactions are caused by internal dialogue. This ties back into Einzelganger's video on how Stoicism deals with insults: if somebody insults me and I get angry with them for it, then the fault for anger lies within myself and I need to search myself to see what was wrong in me that caused me to get upset.
My friend's therapist made my friend spend several weeks journaling his thoughts that he had between an event and his emotional reaction. My friend was astonished that he actually has a surprisingly long train of thoughts between events and his emotional reaction to them. His greater ability to accept things he can't control and the greater understanding of himself he now has have improved his life more than he could have ever dreamed
To be able to go from attachment to detachment or indifference can be a quality since this can save us from fixations.
I'm so happy I found your channel. I needed this videos more than ever. I'm sure they'll give me peace of mind, they already are. Thank you, thank you so much.
I needed more reasons to not study for a test, Now i can procrastinate in peace once again. Bless you all
Lol
How are you doing?
There is frequently nothing we can do about what happens to us. We always have a choice however in how we react to it. Our perception of the event is what determines the outcome.
Emotions come and go like waves in the ocean but their source will always remain unless it is dealt with.
Indifference is peace and peace is perfection.
Perfect! One of my life goals is to read the great works from the powerful mind of Marcus Aurelius.
Damn I wish my life goal took me like a week at absolute most
I will suggest: THE DAILY STOIC by Ryan Holiday and Stephen Hanselman, a book of mainly extracts of Marcus Aurelius’ works(The meditations) amongst others of similar train of thought
I think a better word to use than indifference is equanimity. To me indifference implies some level of non caring attitude, while equanimity still allows one to care about better and worse but approaches the world from a less self centered and broader perspective.
That's one fantastic word you shared there. As I am feeling inspired by Seneca who would always end a letter with a gift, I shall in turn leave you with a gift.
Seneca was a firm believer in not reading a lot of different books, but instead delving deep into what few you do read. I'm still struggling to understand what he meant, and as such I've spent months slowly reading his book, but I digress. I find this part from Volume 1 especially intriguing. He writes to a friend:
"And the same thing must hold true of men who seek intimate acquaintance with no single author, but visit them all in a hasty and hurried manner.
Food does no good and is not assimilated into the body if it leaves the stomach as soon as it is eaten; nothing hinders a cure so much as frequent change of medicine; no wound will heal when one salve is tried after another; a plant which is often moved can never grow strong. There is nothing so efficacious that it can be helpful while it is being shifted about. And in reading of many books is distraction."
I suppose there's a reason scholars who translate these texts, as well as the author of this video, use the word indifferent
All situations fall into three categories: Things we can control. Things we cannot control. Things over which we have some control. It's fine to care about the things over which you have control. It's hurtful to care about those you do not. Therefore you should be indifferent to them.
Equanimous might be how stoics appear to the unexperienced because stoics clearly do not to care about the things most people care about(and therefore are not as easily upset) but equanimity itself is just a symptom of their tranquility, not the cause.
@@hplccolumn3836 "but equanimity itself is just a symptom of their tranquility, not the cause."
Care to elaborate on this? I find my understanding of english lacking and I struggle to understand what you mean.
Also I'd love for you to retort on this statement: I find that stoics oft preach the idea that you want to be with the world. Not of, without or within. Be what nature intended for you, and care about what is. Be with results, not of, without or within results.
Example of my current understanding of stoicm:
Go to a circus and indulge with the flesh. Be mindful to not set yourself beside your flesh's desires. Be mindful to not become a product of the flesh's desires. Be mindful of not losing yourself within the flesh's desires. Claiming to be without desires is as foolish as being lost within the desires. Finding equanimity even with hypocrisy is what separates the stoic from the masses.
I am a student, and wish to learn more which is why I ask.
@Excalibur I like that word too. I also think words like objectivity or perspective get at some important quality about stoicism. Buddhism, which shares a fair bit with the stoics, also makes a distinction between indifference and equanimity. They promote equanimity and refer to indifference as a "near enemy" of it, meaning that it is very similar but slightly different in a negative way.
I think there should a sort of openness to life and that to me indifference sort of implies a kind of callousness that shuts out the world rather than impartially accepting and making do with whatever comes.
@@hplccolumn3836 dont know how I ended up here but im glad I did.... been thinking my whole life I was an insensitive jerk that didnt give any cares to most things. At times questioning if i even needed love because it complicates things. At times I feel that the only things that move me emotionally are deep and intense ones even then I move on quicker than most. In grade 5 I received an "end of the year award" from my teacher explaining that I would handle any conflict or situation with simply saying "whatever." I didn't get it. I didn't even realize I did that... so maybe im a stoic or I was born that way... or both? some of my friends have commented about me being the luckies person they know and how nothing ever seems to go wrong for me.... trust me plenty goes wrong for me but in the end its just time
Dear Einzelganger, this is very practical and wholistic way of living for everyone...excellent channel, ur videos are very useful!! Many thanks!! Take care!!
I never had the information about this, because did not even attend college so i did not know philosophy or anything but thanks to this video.... just found out what this point of view that through the years became part of me was. Thank you for sharing these teachings!
I have reached a level of indifference after cutting all ropes with my internet friends I used to play games with. I realized that in certain events I tend to polarize and gather like minded opinions around me. This escalated in heavy drama back in the days.
One day, I realized that those acquaintances were not healthy for my personal development and there was no way I could change them for the better. Neither did they seem to need me to function on their own so I let go of them.
When they noticed, I got exactly one message from a fellow asking why. I didn't receive any more messages after replying respectfully.
I didn't realize how tired up I have been thinking to serve a group of people I have never met in person.
The word "friend" is used way to quickly, nowadays.
Those acquaintances, how I like to call them now, are temporary. Enjoy them while they last but when it's time to part ways, don't try to cling onto them. Doing so will spare you from a lot of problems you make up for yourselves in the first place.
I did this with my officemates
Stefsinn
Just now find myself doing same but with real life people like neighbors.
Even though toxic and not helpful to my spiritual growth, I kept tolerating them because I thought
that I might HELP them.
Ha ha ha! NOW I KNOW BETTER. What an ENERGY
SAVER!!!! thanks for your comment. Good advice!
Sounds to me you all missed the point of the lesson and are just picking the parts that refer to solitude to justify your emotional responses to your decisions. I don’t believe the lesson was to cut ties with people and be alone, but to be aware that life is limited and things like relationships are out of your control so you should not try to control them. In reference to your standpoint on friendship.
This is the first time I’ve ever looked at a simple definition of Stoicism. After half a century, I just realized that I am one. Thirty years ago, I would’ve gladly traded my business degree for a philosophy one 😀 So much more to learn...
I've been a stoic since I was a child. It makes a lot of people angry because they think you do not care. You care. You just understand that you really are just a small thing after all.
we were all born as stoics, we just grew out of it with age
We're constantly torn between action and inaction, to wait and let a situation unfold, not interrupting your enemy making mistakes, or not acting soon enough and preventing the enemies mistake(s) from dragging you down with them (look to California, and Europe for examples of inaction). Stoicism gives us the morally and intellectually balanced approach to solving the problem with the least amount of backfire.
I stumbled into this exact perception of life back in 2016 and I’ve been happy ever since.
Funny how life is, we stumble on truth & real gems of wisdom, but when we actively pursue these things they seem to always be just beyond our grasp.
This video gave me a little bit of power back, which I`ve lost in my first real relationship which lasted for nearly 4 years.
I am just a lonely german boi in the age of 25 right now.
Even thoe I tried my best to adapt to the stoicism thinking, i still get haunted by my previous relationship and all the good and bad memories.
I still get from time to time dreams about her( a state in which e are still together and shit)
Or get remembered of her, after that I am nearly useless, I would even say toxic....
I try to let go of her, allow my self to try to let her go to the bigger picture and shit..... but afterwards I am still... I would say depressed.
I´ve been already with another woman, tried atleast a bit to reach out for other woman, but still this shit takes me down, let´s me think about the past and not really let´s me live in the moment nore really fully let´s me plan or live in the future....
I fell alone. I mean I watched nearly all of ur vids. and tried my best to get into that content ( most likely even adapted to it in my daily live...)
But I still feel like I have lost sth. Not her but a part of me which makes me loose control after a while when I am alone
I really used to be a person that can spend nearly weeks without real social contact....
( I am right now a bit drunk/mad, so If u try to answer me consider that .... but I nearly get driven to madness by that shit and hope somebody might help me)
Attachment can lead to grief when the time for parting comes. Learn to be content by being kind and compassionate to all the sentient beings that you encounter. "By the practice of loving kindness , i have gained liberation of heart", said the Buddha. Think deeply about your past relationship , it seems to be one sided, with you expecting a lot ,while the other person gradually became indifferent.
Thật may mắn và thành quả cho tôi là trong suốt tuổi trẻ của tôi, tôi đã không hề từng có suy nghĩ là ở tuổi nào thì phải có bạn tình, tôi biết rõ bạn tình không như kế hoạch làm việc là ở tuổi nào thì phải có. Tôi rất hồn nhiên.
Sau khi đọc chia sẻ của bạn, tôi xin phép nói thẳng 1 điều, bạn là người si mê, tham lam, sân giận. Tôi sẽ nói chi tiết từng phần liền dưới đây. Và muốn nói với bạn là bạn cần dũng cảm nhận ra nguyên nhân vấn đề của mình, biết bệnh thì mới trị đúng bệnh.
Si mê: Bạn tưởng cái vọng tưởng thương nhớ cô gái ấy là thật, cho nên hễ nó hiện ra thì bạn chạy theo nó, biểu hiện chạy theo vọng tưởng là nhớ lại khoảnh khắc 2 người bên nhau. Tiếp theo, vọng tưởng thứ 2 xuất hiện, đây là vọng tưởng nói rằng giờ bạn không còn cô ấy nữa rồi, thật đáng buồn, bạn lại tiếp tục chạy theo vọng tưởng thứ 2, bằng chứng là liền cảm thấy buồn, thấy thương thân,...
Cho tới khi bạn biết về nội dung chủ nghĩa khắc kỷ, thì bạn biết là các vọng tưởng trên là không đáng để bạn chạy theo. Liền một vọng tưởng mới xuất hiện nói là bạn dở quá, chuyện nhỏ như vậy mà mình cũng bị tơi bời như thế này. Bạn liền chạy theo vọng tưởng này, cho nên bạn buồn bực bản thân. Lúc này, vọng tưởng nhớ cô ấy lại xuất hiện, lần này bạn không theo mà ngược lại là đánh đuổi vọng tưởng này. Bạn xua đuổi nỗi nhớ cô ấy đi, với câu nói là "không nhớ nữa, không nên nhớ"
Là si mê cho nên mới cho vọng tưởng là thật. Cho nó là thật nên một là chạy theo nó, hai là xua đuổi nó. Mà cả 2 trạng thái này đều khiến bạn bất an. Chỉ có không si mê, biết vọng tưởng là không thật, nó đã không thật thì đâu có chạy theo hay xua đuổi nó. Biết nó không thật thì nó tự động biến mất.
Tham lam: Bạn tham cảm giác sung sướng khi ở bên cô ấy, lúc yêu và được yêu. Mắt của bạn thích sắc đẹp của cô ấy, tai bạn thích nghe giọng nói của cô ấy, mũi bạn thích mùi hương của cô ấy, lưỡi bạn thích xúc chạm, thân bạn thích xúc chạm êm ái, ý bạn thích cô ấy thương bạn. Khi bạn biết bạn tham những thứ này thì giờ bạn đừng tham nữa. Bạn tham những thứ này nên khi bạn không còn được đáp ứng nữa thì bạn sinh ra nóng giận, buồn bực.
Một bằng chứng tham lam nữa là bạn nhanh chóng tìm bạn gái mới để đáp ứng. Bạn đã không cho mình thời gian để nhìn nhận lại chính mình, thấu hiểu mình, chữa lành cho mình, tâm mình an.
Tôi luôn rất mong những người chia tay một mối quan hệ, hãy quay lại thấu hiểu kỹ lưỡng mình trước khi lại nhảy tiếp vào mối quan hệ mới. Mối quan hệ tình cảm không phải như cuộc đua mà phải hấp tấp, vội vàng, là cái gì mà phải vội.
Hãy biết thương người, khi chưa thương một người toàn tâm toàn ý thì đừng bắt đầu một mối quan hệ. Đừng làm liên luỵ đến ai nữa.
Tình yêu chân thật là mong người thương của mình được hạnh phúc, họ ở bất cứ đâu, chỉ cần họ hạnh phúc, chứ không phải khi họ thương mình thì mình thương lại, còn họ không thương mình thì trong suy nghĩ mình xua đuổi họ, trong khi cái lòng tham của mình thì luôn muốn họ ở lại để đáp ứng nhu cầu cho mình.
I’ve recently started reading and more familiarized with stoicism and its practices and your channel has been very informative for me, I’m totally fascinated by the ideas you’ve shared and will be implementing them into my life as a little experiment 🧪, keep great the great work!!!!
Nietszche would disagree. He talks about two conflicting parts inside us: one represented by Apollo, another by Dionysus. Apollo represents reason, order, light, while Dionysus represents drunkenness, passion, leaving the "self". Both parts cycle around, making our life a tragedy, but we can only truly live by accepting our tragic state. According to Nietzsche, stoicism forms an illusion on our lives. By putting reason above else and denying momentary pleasures, it denies our dionysian part; it's repression, and not freedom, to live by strict laws you impose upon yourself.
Though in the end, both Nietzche and stoicism are looking for the same thing: a way to live life. It's important to know both sides of the coin to know what works for you. Meditating, excercising, being "productive"... I truly believe that isn't the only path to happiness.
I like your comment so much.. to add to ur comment.. this is what Carl Jung believed too.. YIN and YANG.. matter and antimatter.. reason and emotion.. cosmological duality but living in harmony..
In all things, moderation. Neither too stoic, nor too wanton.
There are only two times that I can think of where you should definitely not be moderate. Always be stoic in times of crisis, and be open and gregarious when giving compliments/praise.
My understanding was of niezche philopshy was it's about the fight. Who cares if your fight causes things to go tits up for you. You've done well for fighting anyway.
The type of freedom you talk about is not always a good thing.
I would be an alcoholic. Repressing something that is wrong due to our human nature is not a bad thing.
Its better to be Apollo. More difficult? No doubt, but definitely is the best option
I read Marcus Aurelius’s Meditations in college...
Stoicism emphasizes three Ms...monism, mutability and materialism...
Monism means the universe has universal underlying laws and indicates the existence of a higher power running the affairs of the cosmos. This made it appealing to Christians.
Mutability means everything is always changing or in flux. Earlier Greek philosophers had said as much as far back as the Presocratics. Heraclitus said “you can never stick your foot in the same river twice” and stoicism upholds this.
Materialism implies that the universe is composed of physical particles or atoms. The Stoic indifference stems in part from the fact people and their surroundings are just little atoms bouncing around in constantly changing configurations according to universal physical laws.
Stoicism is overall very compatible with the modern world.
Thank you! Great comment!
Very well put comment
@@Einzelgänger, glad you like it!
@@penguinsalsa9207 , thank you!
@cyril john, thank you for the compliment.
Honestly, I read Marcus Aurelius's Meditations over 15 years ago in college. Commenting on this video was a way for me to very briefly review my knowledge and understanding of that work while also sharing my thoughts with other people.
“The measure of a man is what he does with power.” - Plato
@Equinsu Ocha! well then you should at least go to school first
@Equinsu Ocha! at least it dont make you poor AF
This is a very simple yet clearly stated explanation of Stoicism. Thanks for continuing to make content like this. It helps.
This channel is gold. Im so glad i discovered it. Or maybe the channel discovered me. The last advise is so much important.
I love this channel. It shown us how to reach our goals such as inner peace, serenity and so forth.
4:08 _"Imagine the worst possible outcome. Now...avoid that."_ --- Baptiste, _Overwatch_
More often than not, when I stumble upon good philosophical videos, I can't help but notice that all this stuff was already written in Gita. I mean it's really astonishing !!
Its very nice to have such a nice variety of advices that people can listen to and resonate with.
I think at the end of that day the imporant thing is not to follow strictly one line of thinking, but rather to incorporate what we think works best for us even if it means taking different advices from different ideologies, as long as we can take positive value from it and feel improvements in your life.
"Today I shall be meeting with interference, ingratitude, insolence, disloyalty, ill-will, and selfishness- All of them due to the offenders' ignorance of what is good or evil."
@Equinsu Ocha! Excuse me?
@Equinsu Ocha! Are you an old enemy or are you ironically proving the quote?
@Equinsu Ocha! AH! A old enemy it is.
I would ask you "how are you doing these days" but we both already know the answer to that one just from comments.
You try and take care of yourself, person.
@Equinsu Ocha! "Rudeness is the weak person's imitation of strength."
You say"thank you for watching" i say "thank you for teaching" 💜
I am indifferent to my own suffering and the pain I wake to each and every morning.
May my tears drown my soul for its indifference.
"The essence of balance is detachment. To embrace a cause, to grow fond or spiteful, is to lose one's balance, after which, no action can be trusted."
Excellent short intro to the main concepts and figures who formulated Stoic thought. Good work!
Hard to imagine such a person from so long ago. Impossible to imagine in today's world.
the negative visualisation is surprisingly what i do unconsciously because of my overthinking trait and sometimes when people do what they do, it doesn't surprise me but they just corrected my thoughts.
i monitored thousands of calls for deaf and elderly. i would transcribe text to speech for the heari ng impaired essentially. upon my discovery, I realized that many people will steal from dying relatives, grown adults wont love their parents unless they give them money, many straight married men have affairs with gay men, drugs are very common, people have no thoughts or hobbies... they only judge. i became extremely depressed for a while, then accepted stoicism as a way to navigate myself towards acceptance of the current state of humanity.
Có quy luật nhân quả, ai gieo nhân nào sẽ gặt quả đó. Ví dụ, người A là người gieo nhân xấu, cho nên giờ đây nhận quả xấu. Người B thương người A khi thấy người A chịu quả khổ, nhưng thương bao nhiêu đi nữa thì cũng không thể nào giúp người A thoát được quả khổ đâu. Mỗi người chịu trách nhiệm trước việc mình làm.
Lúc người A nhất quyết gây tạo nhân xấu, người B cũng không thể nào khuyên ngăn nổi, khi mà người A đang bị si mê, tham lam, sân giận làm chủ.
Người B chỉ cần theo con đường sống tốt, tâm an vui, ai hữu duyên với người B thì sẽ thấy người B có lối sống đẹp mà dõi theo để học hỏi, mà tự thay đổi bản thân.
Wisdom Begets Stoicism.
Not the other way around.
- Kapil Gupta
Acceptance and indifference aren't the same thing.
Oh, when you understand how this world operates. You will see that in their true form they're always combined sir.
@@completehypocrite9931 the absence of feeling is not the same as the opposite of a feeling. Seneca wrote a lot about how you never should be indifferent, but rather accepting of the things that are. Have friends, enjoy yourself. Be off the people, not for the people, by the people or even without the people. Accept your nature, but never act as if your nature is an island detached from everyone and everything else.
And no, I have yet to read any Stoic talk about how important indifference is. What I've read thus far is passionate, compassionate and filled to the brim with heart and soul. They not only share methods towards wisdom, but also how to become a proper and good person. Not a hero that sacrifices him or herself, but a good person that will care for themselves as well as others.
@@nerglersstuff8890 I won't read all this, because based on your name i already know that i will dissagree sir.
@@completehypocrite9931 provocation is the forrest you must brave to find pond of greater knowledge, young grasshopper.
In your own time, Mr. H.
@@nerglersstuff8890 What ever you say mister philosopher : )
Also, by grasshopper do you mean my picture?*
Are you using insults to hide your romantic emotions and sexual urges about me?
I never knew what “my way” of thinking was or even what it was called . this video is it.
It’s so true . We shouldn’t take life too seriously and not waste time on unimportant things
This was very refreshing for me and makes life seem more easily manageable.
You should read Letters From a Stoic by Seneca
I preach stoicism forvever till I die. There is no such thing as the future, the personal decisions you make, right here and now is all that exist; there is no other, no time in which you are apart of otherwise. Philosophy is the great equalizer and only the great wise men of the time know this.
Being Stoic does not mean not thinking about future... As Marcus Aurelius himself a Roman Emperor, he should have thought that for His People's prosperity
@@wasigupitobudiarto7767 I'd say you haven't read or understood Marcus if you think he didn't reconcile his duty and his perspective about the present time. He basically said to do the best in the present time and that will lead to a better future. All that exist is the present.
@@gradualpull2171I see. so what you do in present will determine future... that sounds very buddhism
@@wasigupitobudiarto7767 I'd say so yeah. It's more of a sense of agency and allowing us to grasp the idea of time, to tame the mind of now, the then and future doesn't exist. Do now what is right and the after will take care of itself. But who knows? The more I read philosophy the more I feel it is a reflection of what the author wanted to be, almost in regret, their own judging witness. I've gained a sense of doubt towards all authors about themselves, if they really thought and acted as such, I doubt it.
@Solve Everything All philosophic principles are but kites from Plato and the forms. I have spent time understanding what that would be in scientific terms, a truth of any manifestation. If there exist a truth how can we find it in a literal sense?
All literature and form is proving we aren't conscious at all. The mind body hard problem cannot be solved with regular perceptual methods, recollection one of them. This is the form on wall, we're the shadows looking out of the cave in my mind. I have come from science to befall our own in inabilities to interpret truth other than a spiritual plane of of energy radiating out of gravity, a force of nature. There is an actual good vibe to be observed scientifically.
To interpret seems to stay away from a truth in the mind so it's no use. I have found no answers after philosophy and only come to stoicism as a way to cope, along with meditation.
Patanjali wrote extensively about this subject in his _Yoga Sutras_
Said very simply, he defined attachment as an over-fondness for or over-aversion to anything. He taught that Yoga (not simply the physical postures, but meditation, contemplation, etc) was a means by which the seeker could simultaneously detach oneself from uncontrollable phenomena of life and unite one’s mind with the numinous.
Very well said. More and more philosophy is making a comeback and I’m all for it.
Love this!! Sometimes doing nothing… Is doing everything. 😑✨✨✌🏻✨✨✨
The only thing you can control is your reaction.
I've been stoic for years now and I didn't even know what stoicism was until this video
Emotions fuel passion yet may cloud judgment 💯
Something is in my control and something is not in my control.
I have control over my mind but not outside events; realize this I will find strength to overcome my self.
My true self is the only part of me that wants to grow;
I am the master of your temple!
With the small difference that if all that was true, you wouldn't need to post it in a youtube video comment section you would do it sir.
But that's none of my business.
This guy I used to be with wrote a post on Quora one time directed at me saying how stupid he thought I was for taking an indifference stance on politics and most everything. He's just like my family. They always belittle me and paint me in a negative light. Then love bomb me when they realize they're about to lose me for good. My mom is suddenly so kind and caring and generous. She wasn't any of those things, the polar opposite, while I lived with her. As soon as I move out she's offering to do things for me, and help me, saying she "loves" me. Anyways. The guy treated me like crap, exactly how my family treats me, always trying to change me and punishing me for not agreeing with them and submitting to their belief system. The relationship was just really abusive in so many ways. And I guess I put up with it because that's all I was used to. He was familiar.
you're are smart, stupid people are threatened by it. you deserve better than that. go find yourself some happiness
This channel is A M A Z I N G. Keep it up.
Videos like this are what smartphones are meant for.
Love it! I have never realized that I’m applying this to my life. Agree with it so much:) by figuring out this way on my own, seeing it through nature, I really can love life more but not taking it real serious cos I know I will die one day, I just want happiness now. Money and power whatever I don’t care as long as I can survive😁 I love Daoism if anyone knows it’s too follow the natural flow
Whoever is reading this now, remember:
You are the light! You are unique and worth it! You are blessed to be in your body and experience all that is!
Blessings to all beings!
Love and Light!
I am darkness. The pitch blackness. The dark matter of space and time. You're welcomed to join. Come to OBLIVION. The never ending blackhole.
Wisdom,Morality, Courage and Moderation 🕊🙂
The key is not to think but to be. Don't be guided by your thoughts or emotions. Be guided by your essence or true self. And all things will fall into place. Acceptance whether it be bad or good.