To be concerned is to observe. To do this with an aura of indifference, is to be free from any irrelevant bias. This will give you the best decisive outcomes, as your mental or physical responses are far more effective and penetrating, when they come from a calm, considered, and capable perspective. Things like fear, ego, pride, etc. will melt away under a lens of clarity and efficiency.
This level of self-awareness and confidence reveals who those are around you. People will love you for being genuine or hate you because they are powerless over you.
It can make very lonely. Everything is interconnected, and that is a 'humbling' spiritual teaching, too, so if you choose to be authentic instead of sheeple-conform out of fear, you might have to be alright with life being a PITA a lot. Then your indifference aprpoach is really put to the test. Not when things are easy because you are emotionally numbed. One common problem with philosophy is the disconnect between the theory and the implementation. It's not the talk that moves the world, it's the - ironically - emotion-based motivation behind it. (Stupid advice from a loving friend can accomplish more than elaborate, intelligent advice from a callous person.)
Indifference is great, but you had better know when to step up and try or you will be just going with the flow and will see every aspect of your life fade away.
depends if you self can then still operate in the middle ground with other people limiting yourself instead of being overbearing and scaring anybody from your space
humans were made to live in herd true but still emigrating inside completely switches something in body into autodestruction mode like in people retiring loosing job or a loved one you learn to switch off into loose gear so you can switch between different gears not changing being stuck on one gear into being stuck in no gear
@@szymonbaranowski8184 retirement doesn’t necessarily have to be misery. Some people crave, and enjoy solitude. Once a person knows what makes them tick, and what makes their soul sing, retirement is heaven. I took early retirement two years ago, and I’m never bored or lonely. There’s peace, joy and contentment in living a simple life.
Indifference or "neutrality" is power. Someone is rude to you, be indifferent, be neutral Because it's a reflection of THEIR inner condition. Being neutral, just observing and accepting their decision without emotion is where your strength is. Such a waste if energy to continually react to the actions of other. They are irrelevant unless you make it so. 💯
Hmmmm..... That seems more like the response of one who is afraid of conflict. Therefore resolution and harmony is lazily postponed, and mislabeled as "power." Which is often the case when the individual has been made to feel they have none. Therefore they use such tactics as "indifference" to inflict the same feelings of powerlessness onto those around them. Thereby perpetuating the cycle of disharmony and conflict between themselves and those around them.
As a younger man, my father had an older neighbor that lived in a tree. Like literally inside the Beech tree, like an Elf. People thought he was crazy, and wanted him to live like a normal person, but he wanted none of it. He wasn't particularly educated, but he was remembered as one of the wisest and most intelligent men in my village. He had many skills, just as capable as any of the villagers at the time, but if there was one trait to describe him it was indifference. He just didn't care nor he wanted to live within the rules other people lived. He passed away in the 90's . I didn't know the man well, i was a little kid when he passed away, but i occasionally pass by the tree which was his home, it's still there, and it's huge. And that always reminds me of Diogenes and how he lived in a barrel. To me, these kinds of people were truly fascinating in a way.
I would like to live in that tree, though I prefer to be away from people because people are harmful to all life around them, I hate people because they corrupt & destroy everything God created.
@@invisableobserver you are seriously so cool for hating people because they disobey God because that’s what God wants you to do, God wants you to hate people because you think you are better than them NOT love them unconditionally and not understand why Jesus said “forgive them father for they know not what they do”
This resonates a lot with me. I recently reflected on that I have become better at being "indifferent" these last six months. Whereas I tended to get caught up in everything that was not my business and felt a certain self-righteousness, and like the world "owed" me something for all my struggles, I've now subconsciously adopted the mantra of "It is what it is". I'm no longer interested in running around controlling everyone's perceptions of me, or despairing about external circumstances far beyond my control. Yet, I neither feel like separating myself entirely from society; I can simply "exist" within it. I involve myself in what I want to involve myself in, and let the rest of it be. It's a peaceful existence.
You’ve literally described nihilism 🤦♂️ the stupidity of Westerners is literally baffling this shouldn’t “resonate” with anyone it’s just an idiotic cover up of the actual problems within the Western world
I've found that a lot of people are more offended by indifference than having strong opinions about things. Indifference really is completely alien to a lot of people. I've had to deal with many family members etc who organise their entire lives around being socially normal. I can sense in these environments that simply an indifferent presence makes these people extremely uncomfortable.
Yeah our culture (I mean western society) these days thrives off outrage and strong opinions and political correctness. “Cancelling” people is all the rage. Indifference is the opposite of all that. Having no opinion about something is baffling to many people. Why do we need to feel a certain way about everything?! Why can’t we just not care?
It's because they are afraid of those they cannot control. As long as you subscribe to the fear game, you are either on team 1 or team 2. Dissing the game itself is terrifying and that fear is then expressed as offense. It is related to how the people who apply non-partisan thinking tend to have the most difficult time making friends. In fact, the power of the tribal mind sometimes shows itself when a nonpartisan thinker accidentally stumbles into appearing as if siding with one tribe and immediately being showered with praise. - This can become doubly 'amusing' (in an unfunny, saddening way) when you say something that both tribes agree with because either one tribe or both tribes misunderstand what you said because of their bigotry-filtered perception. Talk about loneliness!
The story about Diogenes really resonated with me. I've always been told that I need to climb the ladder and impress people to succeed, but seeing someone so content with just living life on their own terms is truly inspiring 💟
Exactly. In MBTI personality testing, I am an INFJ but my best friend is an ENFP. His example has been wonderful for me to be around. His attitude reminds me of Diogenes - so comfortable in his own skin and with no care how he is perceived by anyone. He knows he does right by others, so their perception of him or if they think he's "cool" is simply irrelevant to him. And like you were talking about, he chases things that are truly of interest to him instead of things that will make him look better to society.
except indifference is not how Diogenes became such a famous and respected philosopher that Alexander was interested in him in the first place (or even knew of him). Quite the opposite, I'm sure
@@ChannelMath It sure makes one wonder. Since Diogenes reminds me somewhat of a friend of mine who is an ENFP personality type in MBTI (just for reference), the bit of success this friend has had in his life and how everyone around him has quite a bit of respect for him - came about in spite of the fact he was not attached to that outcome in the least. It makes me wonder if Diogenes was a similar type of person. My friend is a natural with philosophical discussion and many have come to respect his views, even though he never tried to say anything to garner that respect (and didn’t learn about philosophy in order to gain respect, but just out of his own interest in it). 🤔(Meaning friend is a pretty indifferent person, but still has his passions and talents.)
@@j4513 yes, you're right that it's not so black and white. I was just trying to draw out the apparent contradiction. Lots of people, such as myself (and I think most philosophers too) are deeply ambivalent about their indifference (I wish I could say "difference" here, but alas, some negatives have no positives)
It is worth mentioning that you cannot force indifference. It is something that happens through life experience. When you have had enough ups and downs, sex, money, things, people, there comes a point where nothing really matters all that much anymore. You don't really choose to feel it. It just kinda happens naturally. And there is a beauty to it, a sort of relaxed demeanor.
Yes. Making others occasionally quiz you about your even demeanor. Assuming all sorts of things giving unsolicited advice coming up with answers for you. Indifference really helps here. Working on it still growing. Hoping to not say I have the right to be me. No more explanation or defensiveness coming right up!! 😂😂😂😂😂
I've found indifference to be better than getting angry all the time and trying to "fix" people. They usually end up punishing themselves with their terrible lifestyle, meanwhile I get to enjoy being calm and living a good life.
Being indifferent at work has helped me tremendously. I don't experience any strong emotions there because I don't worry about things outside of my control.
Do you go a step further and ponder whether the judgment of our (EDIT: out) of your control might be very selfishly convenient and lead to changing times making it ever-harder to accept ever-more things outside of your control?
@@govegan6112 The approach of indifference is so very tempting to become a selfish isolation from the need for caring. Sheeple kinda do practice indifference, but selectively. Indifference is easier than caring for issues beyond our personal domain. I don't advocate to overburden ourselves, but caring for bigger things has value. Naturally that tends to cause distress, because it is difficult, challenging. Then the really tough stuff begins, learning how not to corrupt anything we do. Anything of the mind can be corrupted, since the source of corruption sits up there, and the channel owner's habit of putting intellect over emotion can abet this problem. What he portrays as 'healthy' indifference requires self-love, and that involves emotional acceptance.
@@Dowlphin yes, I agree. Indifference can mean very different things to different ppl. It can also be a shield we hide behind when things are too unbearable to see. However it can also be a form of self protection since we need to sometimes be selective about the things we choose to care about. Self preservation comes to mind with guarding our mental health. For example I have no emotional stake at work because for me it's just a paycheck. It allows me to do the things I truly value. I only value my husband and our 4 cats. Nothing else gives me worry. I value animals over humans. I have plenty of worry when it comes to animal welfare. I don't appologize for that and most ppl know that about me.
@@govegan6112 Why do you worry more about animals than humans, though? That can have a range of reasons, from totally understandable to very ugly. Personally, as someone who digs deeply into spiritual roots, I am pondering for example whether the emergence of humankind with all its menacing impact (although of course also divine impact) might be the karmic result of the whole fauna focusing so much on survival of the fittest. That fear path would naturally bring about a competitor paragon, so to speak. This ties into the phenomenon of animal idealization, which ironically can cultivate emotional disconnection from animals by not acknowledging their whole spectrum of personalities, too, but instead seeing them as convenient primitives. I like to say bluntly to make a point: If you watch pigeons being fed for a while, you can spot some real assholes among them. 😄 - But if you find empathy for them, then there should also be empathy for humans being assholes. Otherwise there is a warning sign of escapism that might lead to self-neglect through misanthropy. And, BTW, what you wrote sounds like you value your cats more than your husband. 😉
This is so true...when you stay in your own space and are happy by yourself without wanting attention...the more interesting you become to people...its annoying and weird.
That’s because you’re not one in the crowd, you’re someone with your own thoughts, opinions, and personality. I don’t really care who it is, as long as you are true to yourself then you are true to others.
Amen to that. It is my insulation as well. The freedom to be yourself is wonderful. Indifference is also effective against the narcissists of the world.
The best and worst thing about indifference is that it can occur naturally as you experience unpleasant events in life. For me the hard part wasn't developing indifference, but accepting it. Thoughts like "I feel nothing about this, but I SHOULD" or "I have no opinion about that, but I SHOULD" gnawed at my skull until I learned to accept and utilize indifference as a positive trait. Can't tell about the society as a whole, but I felt unwelcome among my friends and relatives who kept telling me how I should feel and how not feeling isn't an option. Turns out it is.
Yes! I grew up with only my dad, who was dying a slow painful death from poorly-controlled juvenile onset diabetes, until he died when I was 12/ he was 40. I was always the cool kid, or the kid with something wrong. Because I could never see the point in getting uptight about things that weren’t life and death. It has served me well in the military, as a mom, and now in Wildland Firefighting. Though my extended family still looks at me a little sideways.
Indifference can be the worst thing you can do to someone who has hurt you; walked past an abusive ex- without even noticing her as if she was a tree. I learned later she burst into tears and was quite distraught. I was free.
My father always told me, "there's no point worrying about things you can't control". Unfortunately, I spend most my life worrying or being angry about things I can't control. But then again, I'm an American, and my country is a hopeless pit of despair and misery.
All countries have problems and some even worse like war and hyperinflation. BUT the over abundance of news make Americans feel so much worse. Honestly, just don’t read the news. You’ll realise most news don’t matter the day after
I was born a lone wolf. I'm 72. Indifferent. Never married, No kids. Never had a best friend. I'm happy. The outside world is painful. I live in my head. It's safe in there. There might be something wrong with me but I'm OK with that.
I have always been characterised as being indifferent. I do not care for people pleasing, I truly always behave and act as myself. I have never once struggled with anxiety or depression.
Like all ideals, indifference is a tool, but not a goal. It is useful for most people simply because they do not have enough of it in their lives, but if you have too much, it becomes a poison. There is only one virtue, and that is balance (which is not the same as being _equally_ everything, but rather being everything in the _correct_ proportion to your need, in the same way that a seesaw will not be balanced directly in the middle if the two people on either end are different weights)
That's an eye opener for me. I've been thinking of being stoic as something I have to become, or else I would remain unhappy. But it's difficult, because I'm a feeler and it always shows on my language. So I've been sad and a little angry that I can't just control myself. Thanks to you, I've learned that indifference and stoicism are tools that I can use whenever I need them. I don't have to be a certain kind of person to be happy and peaceful. I can just be true to myself.😊
Polonius was represented, and was, for dramatic purposes, a fool. His remarks, superficially wise, are subject to many qualifications. For all of that, I am a firm believer in the virtue of probity.
One of the most difficult things people face today is society praising "ambition ", as defined in a very narrow and monetary sense, as a worthwhile primary goal - whilst forgetting that ambition applies equally to serenity, health and simplicity .
My lower self likes to pretend that it doesn’t know the difference between true stoic indifference and egoic, defensive avoidance. But life has a way of announcing those differences to me.
Indifference is only healthy towards things that don't matter; otherwise, it can be worse than hatred. Therein lies the human journey, trying to figure out what matters and what doesn't through trial and error.
I am a 70 year old man. It was not until my early 40s that I heard about the stoic philosophy. As I read more about it, I realized that I had always naturally adopted this philosophy during my life, even in childhood. Looking back, every consequence of a decision of mine that was regrettable, was when I made the decision against my natural stoic tendencies. Perhaps the ability to live the stoic lifestyle is something that comes naturally.
And the harder you are pushed back, the stronger and more determined you will become. Being indifferent is not the same as going with the flow or giving up. In this example, my goal is to make it to shore, being indifferent means, I don't care where on the shore I arrive. Going with the flow or giving up means I've drowned. But once I've made it to shore, the next time I'm in a similar situation, my experience and added strength and confidence with make the fight to shore seem easier, which may look like I'm indifferent.
@@whatleft123 There seems to be a difference between our idea of the flow of life. From what I understood from your comment, your idea of the flow of life is just not being in control or drifting through life. The one in the video and my own comprehension of it is not that; it is: Do not try to fight back against things out of your control like a rejection from a friend, a correct diagnosis of a condition or disease, a train crash, etc. You will die trying to control what isn’t controllable and I almost did trying to. Also if you are ever are taken from shore by currents, swimming against them is quite literally just as bad, if not worse than just swimming down into the water and drowning your self. You cannot overpower currents even actual ones, it’s a waste of energy. Swim with the current until it loses grip of you, then swim at an angle towards shore and away from the current. DO NOT, under any circumstances, swim directly to shore if you are taken away by currents.
Brilliant! I have trained myself to take responsibility for every emotion I experience. I literally no longer feel anger. My mother thinks this is abnormal!
I agree that taking responsibility for your feelings can be very powerful. I would not have expected for you to completely rid yourself of anger. Just that you would feel it for a much shorter time period.
@@blankblank8292 they haven’t. Repression is probably what’s taking place. The emotions cannot be erased without alchemical practice, and even then they’re transformed. Anger transmutes into patience. OP likely hasn’t achieved this because it’s exceedingly rare.
I am a Buddhist monk living in Japan. The message encapsulated in this video is everything that ZEN is. I wish more people would watch this and put the contents into practice!
This is very interesting as I've been studying both Buddhism and Stoicism recently and have noticed much in common philosophically between the two. Best of luck with your practice.
Indefence is not the I don’t care attitude , indeference is knowing who you are honouring it and not fearing being rejected. You cannot control what people think, feel or how they behave. With growing awareness ,you realize indifference is a healthy tool and is used to define who you are or would like to be.
A drastic shift in my perspective came when first, I decided the only opinions I take to heart are those of loved ones and second, I can choose who to love.
Mine was when I was a teenager. I realized that people aren't interested in others. If they judge you, it's only to compare themselves to you. I also realized that I wasn't all that important.
This channel has genuinely changed my life. Without it I likely would've never learned about all this philosophical wisdom, especially from taoism and stoicism. I want to let you know that you are doing something truly great. If there is a God, I hope he blesses you with strength and inner peace.
Since I didn't fit in any society I focused on myself instead. I found out different things about myself that if I had kept associating with others it would be destructive. I learned not to need, or want anything from anyone. This benefitted me greatly.
Are you interested in being indifferent? Then you're not indifferent. But that's not a trap - because you don't control your thoughts or the sensations in your body that emerge. Thus, if in this moment you AREN'T indifferent (you're wrapped up in worry or expectation about an outcome) you have only to admit to yourself that you don't control your thoughts, nor your feelings, and thus the only thing to do is to feel them. Not justify them. Just feel them. The tingles and clenches of anxiety and fear - put your mental cursor on them, because you can't make them go away. But something special happens when you choose instead to welcome the buzzes and clenches and tingles. If nothing else, you'll see that all of experience (life-ending physical pain aside) is simply endless days of thoughts and body sensations, and that's basically the drama of your entire life. I'm not reducing life to merely that (not at all), but demonstrating simply that the core of our experience in any moment is some mix of thoughts and emotions, and when you make a habit of FEELING the things your body is presenting to you, you realize the thing you've been fearing most your whole life is feeling itself. The main fear is the fear of how you think you'll 'feel' about some potential outcome in the future of which you're afraid (loss, sorrow, embarrassment, etc). And fair enough! Except you'll see that actually you CAN feel nearly anything (life-ending physical pain aside). And the person you become when you're not afraid to feel the emotions that bubble up naturally (again, not to justify them, not to justify some specific action based on them)... simply the person you become by allowing yourself to feel the things/emotions you've been clenching against all your life - the person you become is who you want to be.
That is such an amazing attitude. I've been practicing exactly what you just explained and yes my friend, the changes are amazing. Resistance can very well be futile.
I don't comment enough on your videos, so I want to take a moment to say that I find them very insightful and helpful in my day to day life. Thank you for making them and I hope this comment bumps you up a smidgen in the algorithm. I think more people need to be exposed to this kind of wisdom.
...I looked back at the past 7 years today and I felt like I'd been 'trying' forever .. and all I have from that is nervous exhaustion.. so thanks for this video it will help me immensely to let go of trying so much with everything.
Never depend upon your own expectations. Just move forward with an understanding that circumstances can change when you least expect them to change. And when circumstances do change away and do not meet your expectations with this understanding always to mind as you move along you will not feel any adverse emotional fallout or feel emotionally let down. 🇦🇺💯%
This reminds me of just being perfectly honest with myself. Am I really concerned about this issue? It's a useful question to ask myself often. As it turns out, I'm mostly concerned about a meal, shelter, and being relatively healthy. Like my brother says "It's not just good, it's good enough!" 😅
Thank you. That was very enlightening and somehow comforting. I’ve been judged harshly because I do prefer my own company and I no longer run around looking for or getting the latest stuff or in that rushed living. Again, thank you.
This immediately resonates with with this! Since childhood, others perceived me as detached or aloof even unemotional to outcomes or chaos of others. As I grew into my true nature, I realized that there is a great power in being extremely empathetic and respectful while also filtering outside forces and opinions that do not serve me well. This has helped tremendously to navigate personal relationships, my activism in the political arena and afforded me to set my own pace as a entrepreneur with my own successful business ventures. In the study of astrology, indifference is one of the strongest traits of an Aquarius sign. Perceiving with a healthy dose of indifference is very empowering while others desperately pine for your reaction to play out their own projected chaos onto others. Indifference is far from being uncaring. It’s about self-preserving and staying in the most positive, more empowering position in order to make the most of any uncontrollable situation. Buddhism teaches this! Very informative!
Einzelganger Thank you for all your hard work. Not only am I learning how better to live my life but I am learning from YOU how to compose a GREAT essay.
@@shannonkuch4942hate is also a form of love, it has a lot toxicity and destruction yes, but it is still a form of love, bcs you still care about the objects of your hatred. Even einzelgänger has videos about the 7 deadly sins and one of them is sloth/laziness, which is the epitome of indifference.
The attachment to outcome. Damn that hit me hard. I struggle with that and it makes sense that auditions and performances are tough yet when I’m just existing and focus on just enjoying the moment. I thought maybe more experience might help that. Thank you for putting all this in perspective. So much to process this morning 🙏🏾
I started becoming indifferent to most things that were bothering me and I surprisingly found true peace and happiness. Indifference is truly power. Thank you for sharing this valuable content with us.
The people who lust after power want maximum dependence of the citizens. Ownership is vital for economical freedom, therefore one cannot be indifferent to it.
I don't think those are mutually exclusive, empathy is an important part of compassion. But attachment isn't This is something I've been working on, it's definitely a tough one if you weren't taught these things growing up
@@Jhawk_2k Good distinction! It's the empathic attachment that will weigh you down, especially when you are a keen observer that's interested in the welfare of the world and the human condition. I had to learn to let that go to get rid of my depression. I realised that the best thing I could do to change the world for the better is to change and balance myself. I shifted the locus of control to within, as opposed to without, realising I'm not at all powerless to effect change: living my ideal to the best of my ability is actually the yielding of a lot of power and can inspire lots of positive change!
Indifference is attractive because you show to people who you really are (your VALUE as a person). They will see you as confident and a person who loves himself. Because of this others might: Scared of you, Hate you, Jealous, or Respect you. Because not everyone has the courage to be who they want to be.
As Marcus Arelious said, try to approach the situation objectively from a third person‘s perspective. The more you think about it the harder you realize that is to do. But if you can achieve it, it really does give you a true objective outlook.
Wow. Didn’t realize I was ahead of myself. I’ve always been indifferent. I always thought it was being negative but realize I was living my life on my own terms. I like freedom.
I have practised this in relation to egoic outbursts for the past few years. The funny thing is, I often get people coming to me to talk about others behind their backs, and when they see my lack of reaction, they first look shocked… you can see the moment their eyes widen and they lean back slightly. Then, every time without fail, they apologise to me and quickly change the subject. I don’t judge them for any of this, not even in my thoughts. A lot of people here say that people respond badly to their indifference and, this is just a hunch, but I think they may be judging them. That’s why they get a bad reaction.
As Ive aged, I find more and more that there is very little that I’m not indifferent about. I think this has greatly reduced my chances of having heart failure. There is much peace to be found in not giving a s***.
I like the story of the Scythians who had a reputation of being fearless or a bit crazy in war. Their army was lined up facing the more powerful Persian army of Darius and battle was about to commence. A hare (or rabbit by some accounts) ran into the no man's land between the two armies and many Scythians broke ranks to give chase to the hare. Their indifference to the impending battle and the more powerful army they faced caused great consternation, upset and even fear in the ranks of their opponents. Great video presentation Einzelgänger, I can learn a lot from it!
Great video! For me, it's always an uphill challenge to distinguish between what I can and cannot control, AND following thru with letting go of what I can't control. But when I get it right, in the moment, the pleasure and accomplishment is uncomparable. After all, it's only me. And me controlling me is amazing.
I think it should be noted that indifference doesn't grant "personal power" in this sense of it being a source of empowerment. It prevents you from giving it away to others who would like to see you disempowered.
I am still learning to be indifferent to what my mother or even my little sister say or do. My mother has very high expectations of me, and often reminds me how bad of a daughter i am, how i don’t help around etc. It used to hurt, now i play my indifference card. And we move on without a fight. That gives me peace. As for my sister, she bullies me from time to time, the reason why she bullies me is just as fucked up. I used to buy her things that she wanted, but at some point i had to put a restriction to that because she kept asking me to buy things for her, that’s when it started, she started calling me names like selfish, ugly, mom doesn’t love me etc. At first i used to explain to her why i have to do what im doing and why its not ok to call me names because of this, doesnt work. Then i just started getting super angry, altho i dont call her names, but i would talk back to her. And now? I’m learning to be indifferent. I choose to not BE like her, i choose to be the adult that i am and not be controlled by her words. Still learning but getting there.
Brilliant subject. This alone can eliminate the neurosis some experience. Thank you for this gem, it reinforces a lot of what I’ve recently learnt and wholeheartedly believe.
Im cautious because indifference easily leads to depression and a sense of alienation from everything. Some amount of enthusiasm and engagement is needed to feel, well, engaged in life. You must appreciate something. The 'care about what you can control, be indifferent about the things you cant' is a good start. the next step is to select the controllable things and build a routine and mind-pattern around appreciating them: The morning and evening sun, food and drinks, fun, slow learning, animals, being quick to laugh and wonder when someones mind is tricked...and sharing these things with people.
I wish I could completely translate this into hindi and share with my parents so that they can listen themselves without my interpretation and perception mixed. It’s beautiful.
@@insanejughead knowledge, thoughts and ideas must surpass the language boundaries but if I translate and start explaining it will be like I am sharing my perception and being manipulative so needed it available already in Hindi 😅
I moved away from my teenaged home and city. I used to place meaning in the friends and people I knew there, trying to maintain those relationships and holding expectations of them even though I was 500 miles away. I left in my late 20’s and now I’m retired and 53. As an older man I realized that all those people are still doing the same as they’ve always done, still working, still partying and had I stayed, I’d be doing the same. Nothing those people do or say has any meaning in my life now, even the person I used to believe was my closest friend. I guess that’s the path to indifference.
Great Story, indifference can be just filtering out the bad and the good and everything else that helps us to move forward. Doesn't necessarily have to be no care or don't take action ...but take action and filter things out that we don't need and harming us !!
I'd say having loose attachment is the ideal. Even things we feel are our purpose/ ready to die for... it sucks, there's things that seemed to be doomed, but long as we realize we are nothing without sanity (or soon would inevitably become)-- it's necessary to some degree. If you truly love something or someone, you have to know where to stop squeezing it/ them so tightly (to the harm of them or yourself). Strive to have secure attachment, not insecure attachment. Much as it can seem an impossible fine line, it is worth it to have/ strive for
Just living thru depression, if you care about anything, it better be important. Care about important things, people, and love. Nothing else will matter eventually.
This video came at a perfect time. I knew better then to look down on my opinion as careless but I must admit the relentless pursuit some people possess that drives them to ridicule you for “not caring” begins to make me think maybe I’m looking at things in the 3D a lil too careless. But I’m the rock and I can feel good trapped in a hard place if I stay true to my beliefs. Cuz in the end, if it’s not my belief then it’s not my place. And I find this theory of mind so simple yet profound and empowering.
But when indifference becomes “I dont care” that’s when your life becomes meaningless. We live in a era where indifference is often used to escape reality or numb the pain to avoid dealing with the world around us…and life starts slipping away from us…
I disagree. I only have control over MYSELF. What grown adults choose to do with their lives or decisions they make is not my problem. I don't care because there is nothing that I can do to change it. I shrug my shoulders and keep it moving. Indifference and the ultimate IDGAF attitude is what is truly powerful because 99% of people have a herd mentality.
Indifference doesn't mean not caring. It's about not allowing external things affect you emotionally. Thus reacting to the stimuli. If your life becomes meaningless when you remove judgement of others or stop worrying what other people think of you then you probably have some attachment issues. Possibly even self esteem issues. Maybe you need to delete your social media accounts and gauge how much validation you seek through these mediums. If your life and soul depends on using these toxic platforms to promote yourself or to snoop and spy on what others are doing then you may have some work to do on yourself. Do you even know who you are when you remove superficiality from your life? What are your beliefs? Interests? Dreams and ideas. Who are you? Who is your authentic self when you remove all the bull shit? Take away the fashion, the mobile phone, remove addictions, make up.. drop the mask and explore whi you are without any of these things. Its time to do some soul searching I think.. or seek counselling because ultimately your outlook is morose and bleak. Which isnt exactly your fault because thats how the western influences and society try to make us all the same. Dont be a meaningless Sheep like everyone else. Find a purpose In your life.
5:12 is a huge insight “suppose we believe such events are simply the workings of the universe, which we don’t have control over. And are neither good nor bad in themselves in that case we’ll be emotionally resilient and able to cope when they occur. The Stoics believe that regardless of our hardships, we have the choice of attitude. We should approach all things that are not within our control with an indifference stance. Epictetus spoke of contempt toward things not in our control in contrast to those in our control such as our opinions, pursuits, and other actions originating from our ability to choose. The power of indifference in the Stoic sense is the power to distinguish between things that are within our control and those that are not and to care less of the latter.
And is more or less in alignment with the ancient far eastern philosophy of Wu Wei, the art of effortless action...or something along those lines of contemplation..
I really appreciate the sentiments and the quote by Emerson. I've spent the last year trying to finish a creative project (a board game) that I've toyed with for much of my life. The game really defies many of the conventions and tropes of its genre. While I expected pessimism and negativity, I did not expect the outright ANGER I often receive. Instead of just saying "not for me" and moving on, people often hear my reasons for doing things differently as an indictment of their choices, or perhaps an attack on their intelligence. I just want to build a better mousetrap. It's not meant to sh*t on the users of traditional mousetraps. But that really is the reflexive emotional response from many people. I guess what I'm saying is that being a creator is a lonely road. Even very successful creatives are usually eaten alive by their fans eventually- c.f. George Lucas. I imagine that nothing will ever free me totally from the desire to please others and be accepted by the group. But it helps if I can at least be self aware about that and remind myself that the anger is a reflex and not a valid criticism, and that provoking strong reactions is probably a sign I'm doing something RIGHT. As an artist, it's far better to be hated than to be ignored. But unfortunately, that isn't the case for just being a person, so thick skin is required. 😢
To me this has been a major motivator towards accruing wealth, I’m not interested in living a spartan existence, but the ability to simply walk away and not follow the herd, whilst still enjoying a high standard of material wealth works for me. We see this in the FI movements so popular with Gen X.
*"In a time when societies are fractured and divided, rulers / manipulators have nearly limitless power over the people, especially the working class" - M. J. Jenkins* Keep people in a state where they feel distant from each other and alone, and there'll never be an uprising. The oppressors will have free reign to do whatever the f*ck they want, and often without consequence...
practiced it and it WORKS!👍...it gave me peace, contentment, and not caring what others think can make you choose whats best for you. Fame, fortune, money is good, but it doesnt' bring happiness, only contentment does. Cheers!
I grew up with the story of Diogenes and Alexander. My understanding of it is different, not so much indifference but clarity of mind, knowing which things are important to you, standing by your beliefs and outlook whether you are facing a child or an emperor. Diogenes was anything but indifferent and the meaning and connotations of the word may be misconstrued if applied to his famous story.
This presentation is so good as are others you’ve put up, I really get a lot out of them, I’m sure many people do, a nice simple life suits me, classical music and a good book, a cup of tea watching a beautiful sunrise, a cold beer watching it set, I’m easily entertained, I like people but in small doses, I’d rather have 4 crowns than a hundred pennies, all the best to everyone, also I love the photography in your episodes, so nice
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Practicing indifference towards things that don’t really matter has helped tremendously with my anxiety and depression.
What about things that matter?
@@OldSchoolBaller Indifference doesn't mean one doesn't care. It just refers to the way the things that matter are received.
To be concerned is to observe. To do this with an aura of indifference, is to be free from any irrelevant bias. This will give you the best decisive outcomes, as your mental or physical responses are far more effective and penetrating, when they come from a calm, considered, and capable perspective.
Things like fear, ego, pride, etc. will melt away under a lens of clarity and efficiency.
Stop referring to anxiety as My anxiety. It’s just anxiety.
@@raynarks number 1. mental illnesses affect different people differently. 2 be indifferent towards this cuz it doesn't matter anyway🤦♂️
This level of self-awareness and confidence reveals who those are around you. People will love you for being genuine or hate you because they are powerless over you.
It can make very lonely.
Everything is interconnected, and that is a 'humbling' spiritual teaching, too, so if you choose to be authentic instead of sheeple-conform out of fear, you might have to be alright with life being a PITA a lot. Then your indifference aprpoach is really put to the test. Not when things are easy because you are emotionally numbed.
One common problem with philosophy is the disconnect between the theory and the implementation. It's not the talk that moves the world, it's the - ironically - emotion-based motivation behind it. (Stupid advice from a loving friend can accomplish more than elaborate, intelligent advice from a callous person.)
You read my mind!!!!
Indifference is great, but you had better know when to step up and try or you will be just going with the flow and will see every aspect of your life fade away.
depends if you self can then still operate in the middle ground with other people limiting yourself
instead of being overbearing and scaring anybody from your space
Well said.
*”Do not fear having no friends. Fear having bad friends”* ~My life taught lesson
humans were made to live in herd
true but still emigrating inside completely switches something in body into autodestruction mode
like in people retiring
loosing job or a loved one
you learn to switch off into loose gear
so you can switch between different gears
not
changing being stuck on one gear into being stuck in no gear
@@szymonbaranowski8184 retirement doesn’t necessarily have to be misery. Some people crave, and enjoy solitude. Once a person knows what makes them tick, and what makes their soul sing, retirement is heaven. I took early retirement two years ago, and I’m never bored or lonely. There’s peace, joy and contentment in living a simple life.
Amen 🙏
@@jaijai5250 more quotes in my channel :)
Old spanish saying:
"Mejor solo que mal acompañado". Better alone than in bad company.
Indifference or "neutrality" is power.
Someone is rude to you, be indifferent, be neutral
Because it's a reflection of THEIR inner condition.
Being neutral, just observing and accepting their decision without emotion is where your strength is.
Such a waste if energy to continually react to the actions of other. They are irrelevant unless you make it so. 💯
Switzerland used to be neutral, now look at them?? Their most prized industry in “banking”, has been relegated to just another bank.
Hmmmm..... That seems more like the response of one who is afraid of conflict. Therefore resolution and harmony is lazily postponed, and mislabeled as "power."
Which is often the case when the individual has been made to feel they have none. Therefore they use such tactics as "indifference" to inflict the same feelings of powerlessness onto those around them. Thereby perpetuating the cycle of disharmony and conflict between themselves and those around them.
Exact,useless drama. Got no business with them anyway waste of time. They're not paying your bills anyway.
Yes, but don't let people walk over you. Need to assert yourself imo.
@@bryanchambers1964 👍
As a younger man, my father had an older neighbor that lived in a tree. Like literally inside the Beech tree, like an Elf. People thought he was crazy, and wanted him to live like a normal person, but he wanted none of it. He wasn't particularly educated, but he was remembered as one of the wisest and most intelligent men in my village. He had many skills, just as capable as any of the villagers at the time, but if there was one trait to describe him it was indifference. He just didn't care nor he wanted to live within the rules other people lived. He passed away in the 90's . I didn't know the man well, i was a little kid when he passed away, but i occasionally pass by the tree which was his home, it's still there, and it's huge. And that always reminds me of Diogenes and how he lived in a barrel. To me, these kinds of people were truly fascinating in a way.
Eastern Europe moment.
I would like to live in that tree, though I prefer to be away from people because people are harmful to all life around them, I hate people because they corrupt & destroy everything God created.
@@invisableobserver you are seriously so cool for hating people because they disobey God because that’s what God wants you to do, God wants you to hate people because you think you are better than them NOT love them unconditionally and not understand why Jesus said “forgive them father for they know not what they do”
@@invisableobserverlife is harmful to life. It has always been tha way. When one choses to wield its power, another may suffer
@@ogeo.8966 only weak ones show their power which causes suffering
This resonates a lot with me. I recently reflected on that I have become better at being "indifferent" these last six months. Whereas I tended to get caught up in everything that was not my business and felt a certain self-righteousness, and like the world "owed" me something for all my struggles, I've now subconsciously adopted the mantra of "It is what it is". I'm no longer interested in running around controlling everyone's perceptions of me, or despairing about external circumstances far beyond my control. Yet, I neither feel like separating myself entirely from society; I can simply "exist" within it. I involve myself in what I want to involve myself in, and let the rest of it be. It's a peaceful existence.
No one gonna lu you for that, but you can lu yourself, this way, preach on, sister! Preach on.
Amazing
You’ve literally described nihilism 🤦♂️ the stupidity of Westerners is literally baffling this shouldn’t “resonate” with anyone it’s just an idiotic cover up of the actual problems within the Western world
Yay! 👏👏👏😁
Getting off Reddit was a big step for me in this realm, I caught myself typing argumentative comments all the time
I've found that a lot of people are more offended by indifference than having strong opinions about things. Indifference really is completely alien to a lot of people. I've had to deal with many family members etc who organise their entire lives around being socially normal. I can sense in these environments that simply an indifferent presence makes these people extremely uncomfortable.
As they say, love and hate are two sides of the same coin - a strong emotional attachment, while indifference is their opposite
Beautifully said. There is so much mental and emotional power in indifference.
Yeah our culture (I mean western society) these days thrives off outrage and strong opinions and political correctness. “Cancelling” people is all the rage. Indifference is the opposite of all that. Having no opinion about something is baffling to many people. Why do we need to feel a certain way about everything?! Why can’t we just not care?
I have noticed the same thing, we are more powerful when were indifferent
It's because they are afraid of those they cannot control. As long as you subscribe to the fear game, you are either on team 1 or team 2. Dissing the game itself is terrifying and that fear is then expressed as offense.
It is related to how the people who apply non-partisan thinking tend to have the most difficult time making friends. In fact, the power of the tribal mind sometimes shows itself when a nonpartisan thinker accidentally stumbles into appearing as if siding with one tribe and immediately being showered with praise. - This can become doubly 'amusing' (in an unfunny, saddening way) when you say something that both tribes agree with because either one tribe or both tribes misunderstand what you said because of their bigotry-filtered perception.
Talk about loneliness!
Indifference is freedom especially when dealing with toxic individuals ❤
It's like the gray rock technique with narcissists!
I think that indifference is a trait of sigma personality.
@@kyivwithgeofftanya5546I'm the much rarer and cooler ligma male
Ll said. Agreed.
If an individual doesn't bring value to your life, why give your time to them?
It’s amazing how much easier life is when we can control our emotions. What’s more amazing is the fact they figured this out thousands of years ago.
It's fab when we take full accountability for the way we feel. No more blaming John Ted and Harry. Actually blame disappears all together.
I think its Tom dick and Harry. I agree with you 💯%. We control our emotions we win.
@@unclejimy hahaha sorry I 'm French I can never get this expression right 😅
Why is that amazing? It’s so obvious they were way more advanced back then lol. We are dumb af today
@@1234KeithB that’s what I think. People back then, even illiterate commoners, were so much more intelligent and capable than modern people.
The story about Diogenes really resonated with me. I've always been told that I need to climb the ladder and impress people to succeed, but seeing someone so content with just living life on their own terms is truly inspiring 💟
Exactly. In MBTI personality testing, I am an INFJ but my best friend is an ENFP. His example has been wonderful for me to be around. His attitude reminds me of Diogenes - so comfortable in his own skin and with no care how he is perceived by anyone. He knows he does right by others, so their perception of him or if they think he's "cool" is simply irrelevant to him. And like you were talking about, he chases things that are truly of interest to him instead of things that will make him look better to society.
except indifference is not how Diogenes became such a famous and respected philosopher that Alexander was interested in him in the first place (or even knew of him). Quite the opposite, I'm sure
@@ChannelMath It sure makes one wonder. Since Diogenes reminds me somewhat of a friend of mine who is an ENFP personality type in MBTI (just for reference), the bit of success this friend has had in his life and how everyone around him has quite a bit of respect for him - came about in spite of the fact he was not attached to that outcome in the least. It makes me wonder if Diogenes was a similar type of person.
My friend is a natural with philosophical discussion and many have come to respect his views, even though he never tried to say anything to garner that respect (and didn’t learn about philosophy in order to gain respect, but just out of his own interest in it). 🤔(Meaning friend is a pretty indifferent person, but still has his passions and talents.)
@@j4513 yes, you're right that it's not so black and white. I was just trying to draw out the apparent contradiction.
Lots of people, such as myself (and I think most philosophers too) are deeply ambivalent about their indifference (I wish I could say "difference" here, but alas, some negatives have no positives)
@@ChannelMath Well said. Excellent point.
Indifference allows for you to exercise the open mind and therefore welcome more options
It’s like standing taller in a crowd, the taller you are, the more you see
I like that, appreciate it random human.
As long as it's not cynical indifference.
Lol since when? I’d you’re indifferent you wouldn’t care about any opinions 😂
@@CrudDeposit what?
It is worth mentioning that you cannot force indifference. It is something that happens through life experience. When you have had enough ups and downs, sex, money, things, people, there comes a point where nothing really matters all that much anymore. You don't really choose to feel it. It just kinda happens naturally. And there is a beauty to it, a sort of relaxed demeanor.
Wise words. 😁
Wise words. 😁
True. Indifference in the healthiest and most positive sense of the word is really the product of such experience.
Yes. Making others occasionally quiz you about your even demeanor. Assuming all sorts of things giving unsolicited advice coming up with answers for you. Indifference really helps here. Working on it still growing. Hoping to not say I have the right to be me. No more explanation or defensiveness coming right up!! 😂😂😂😂😂
I've found indifference to be better than getting angry all the time and trying to "fix" people. They usually end up punishing themselves with their terrible lifestyle, meanwhile I get to enjoy being calm and living a good life.
Do not fear being single, fear having a toxic relationship-my life lesson 😢
Being indifferent at work has helped me tremendously. I don't experience any strong emotions there because I don't worry about things outside of my control.
Do you go a step further and ponder whether the judgment of our (EDIT: out) of your control might be very selfishly convenient and lead to changing times making it ever-harder to accept ever-more things outside of your control?
@@Dowlphin huh?
@@govegan6112 The approach of indifference is so very tempting to become a selfish isolation from the need for caring. Sheeple kinda do practice indifference, but selectively. Indifference is easier than caring for issues beyond our personal domain. I don't advocate to overburden ourselves, but caring for bigger things has value. Naturally that tends to cause distress, because it is difficult, challenging. Then the really tough stuff begins, learning how not to corrupt anything we do. Anything of the mind can be corrupted, since the source of corruption sits up there, and the channel owner's habit of putting intellect over emotion can abet this problem.
What he portrays as 'healthy' indifference requires self-love, and that involves emotional acceptance.
@@Dowlphin yes, I agree. Indifference can mean very different things to different ppl. It can also be a shield we hide behind when things are too unbearable to see. However it can also be a form of self protection since we need to sometimes be selective about the things we choose to care about. Self preservation comes to mind with guarding our mental health. For example I have no emotional stake at work because for me it's just a paycheck. It allows me to do the things I truly value. I only value my husband and our 4 cats. Nothing else gives me worry. I value animals over humans. I have plenty of worry when it comes to animal welfare. I don't appologize for that and most ppl know that about me.
@@govegan6112 Why do you worry more about animals than humans, though? That can have a range of reasons, from totally understandable to very ugly.
Personally, as someone who digs deeply into spiritual roots, I am pondering for example whether the emergence of humankind with all its menacing impact (although of course also divine impact) might be the karmic result of the whole fauna focusing so much on survival of the fittest. That fear path would naturally bring about a competitor paragon, so to speak.
This ties into the phenomenon of animal idealization, which ironically can cultivate emotional disconnection from animals by not acknowledging their whole spectrum of personalities, too, but instead seeing them as convenient primitives.
I like to say bluntly to make a point: If you watch pigeons being fed for a while, you can spot some real assholes among them. 😄 - But if you find empathy for them, then there should also be empathy for humans being assholes. Otherwise there is a warning sign of escapism that might lead to self-neglect through misanthropy.
And, BTW, what you wrote sounds like you value your cats more than your husband. 😉
This is so true...when you stay in your own space and are happy by yourself without wanting attention...the more interesting you become to people...its annoying and weird.
That’s because you’re not one in the crowd, you’re someone with your own thoughts, opinions, and personality. I don’t really care who it is, as long as you are true to yourself then you are true to others.
Indifference is my insulation against a harsh/judgmental society.
Amen to that. It is my insulation as well. The freedom to be yourself is wonderful. Indifference is also effective against the narcissists of the world.
@@M5a1r4c7ditto
literally no one cares
I care
@@MementoTurtle I don't
The best and worst thing about indifference is that it can occur naturally as you experience unpleasant events in life. For me the hard part wasn't developing indifference, but accepting it. Thoughts like "I feel nothing about this, but I SHOULD" or "I have no opinion about that, but I SHOULD" gnawed at my skull until I learned to accept and utilize indifference as a positive trait. Can't tell about the society as a whole, but I felt unwelcome among my friends and relatives who kept telling me how I should feel and how not feeling isn't an option. Turns out it is.
I wish I could not care. One day…🙏🏻
Yes!
I grew up with only my dad, who was dying a slow painful death from poorly-controlled juvenile onset diabetes, until he died when I was 12/ he was 40.
I was always the cool kid, or the kid with something wrong.
Because I could never see the point in getting uptight about things that weren’t life and death.
It has served me well in the military, as a mom, and now in Wildland Firefighting.
Though my extended family still looks at me a little sideways.
@@JuliaShalomJordan funny how much you seem to care about this.🙏🙄
bro is flexing his sociopathy 😭
Usually it’s the “be yourself” MF’s too
Indifference can be the worst thing you can do to someone who has hurt you; walked past an abusive ex- without even noticing her as if she was a tree. I learned later she burst into tears and was quite distraught. I was free.
Big W! 🎉
My father always told me, "there's no point worrying about things you can't control". Unfortunately, I spend most my life worrying or being angry about things I can't control. But then again, I'm an American, and my country is a hopeless pit of despair and misery.
Try visiting a Third World shi*hole. You will gain perspective on how fortunate you are to be an American.
😂
Maybe concerning male respect.
For the rest, not so much. Money 💵 💶 💵
Yeah , true .. im naturally indifferent....moving in america made me feel bad about its people...
Absolutely right.
All countries have problems and some even worse like war and hyperinflation. BUT the over abundance of news make Americans feel so much worse. Honestly, just don’t read the news. You’ll realise most news don’t matter the day after
Being indifferent to the things that would distress you, or hold you down, is the best thing you can do for yourself
Its almost like when you GIVE people and entities LESS power over your personal life, the less they matter. 😮😮
I was born a lone wolf. I'm 72. Indifferent. Never married, No kids. Never had a best friend. I'm happy. The outside world is painful. I live in my head. It's safe in there. There might be something wrong with me but I'm OK with that.
God bless you brother,,, you live with God I know
Good for you. Happy is happy.
I have always been characterised as being indifferent. I do not care for people pleasing, I truly always behave and act as myself. I have never once struggled with anxiety or depression.
Interesting… would you say this was ‘conditioning’ through your up bringing?
non sequitor
@@ablanccanvas are u an introvert?
Like all ideals, indifference is a tool, but not a goal. It is useful for most people simply because they do not have enough of it in their lives, but if you have too much, it becomes a poison. There is only one virtue, and that is balance (which is not the same as being _equally_ everything, but rather being everything in the _correct_ proportion to your need, in the same way that a seesaw will not be balanced directly in the middle if the two people on either end are different weights)
argument to moderation fallacy.
No, it never becomes a ''poison'' unless you are indifferent to your own well being. Stop adding this nonsense under a good video.
@@TeachingMatthewSaurusRex2 there is no quality, attribute, or action in the entire realm of human experience that does not need to be moderated
That's an eye opener for me. I've been thinking of being stoic as something I have to become, or else I would remain unhappy. But it's difficult, because I'm a feeler and it always shows on my language. So I've been sad and a little angry that I can't just control myself.
Thanks to you, I've learned that indifference and stoicism are tools that I can use whenever I need them. I don't have to be a certain kind of person to be happy and peaceful. I can just be true to myself.😊
I’ve never heard “balance” labeled as a virtue, or trait. That’s a great label for it.
“To thine own self be true.” This is honesty, authenticity and integrity at it’s purest.
Hope you’re cool with queers then
Thats the satanic peoples mantra.
@@sofiaprimera1172 lol
Polonius was represented, and was, for dramatic purposes, a fool. His remarks, superficially wise, are subject to many qualifications. For all of that, I am a firm believer in the virtue of probity.
One of the most difficult things people face today is society praising "ambition ", as defined in a very narrow and monetary sense, as a worthwhile primary goal - whilst forgetting that ambition applies equally to serenity, health and simplicity .
My lower self likes to pretend that it doesn’t know the difference between true stoic indifference and egoic, defensive avoidance. But life has a way of announcing those differences to me.
Hos so?
Hahaha 👍
Indifference is only healthy towards things that don't matter; otherwise, it can be worse than hatred. Therein lies the human journey, trying to figure out what matters and what doesn't through trial and error.
I am a 70 year old man. It was not until my early 40s that I heard about the stoic philosophy. As I read more about it, I realized that I had always naturally adopted this philosophy during my life, even in childhood. Looking back, every consequence of a decision of mine that was regrettable, was when I made the decision against my natural stoic tendencies. Perhaps the ability to live the stoic lifestyle is something that comes naturally.
Indifference allows us to let go of things that don't matter and allow things that do shine through
The more you fight the currents, the harder you are pushed back.
Go with the flow.
That’s good.
And the harder you are pushed back, the stronger and more determined you will become. Being indifferent is not the same as going with the flow or giving up. In this example, my goal is to make it to shore, being indifferent means, I don't care where on the shore I arrive. Going with the flow or giving up means I've drowned. But once I've made it to shore, the next time I'm in a similar situation, my experience and added strength and confidence with make the fight to shore seem easier, which may look like I'm indifferent.
@@whatleft123 There seems to be a difference between our idea of the flow of life. From what I understood from your comment, your idea of the flow of life is just not being in control or drifting through life. The one in the video and my own comprehension of it is not that; it is: Do not try to fight back against things out of your control like a rejection from a friend, a correct diagnosis of a condition or disease, a train crash, etc.
You will die trying to control what isn’t controllable and I almost did trying to.
Also if you are ever are taken from shore by currents, swimming against them is quite literally just as bad, if not worse than just swimming down into the water and drowning your self.
You cannot overpower currents even actual ones, it’s a waste of energy. Swim with the current until it loses grip of you, then swim at an angle towards shore and away from the current. DO NOT, under any circumstances, swim directly to shore if you are taken away by currents.
@@festuswilliams654 Nah bro I’m swimming out 😭 y’all can drown in your self righteousness
Brilliant! I have trained myself to take responsibility for every emotion I experience. I literally no longer feel anger. My mother thinks this is abnormal!
I agree that taking responsibility for your feelings can be very powerful. I would not have expected for you to completely rid yourself of anger. Just that you would feel it for a much shorter time period.
Anger is the hardest emotion for a man to expunge and for a woman it's fear.
Sources: my experience.
@@cnrspiller3549I think fear is the primal emotion underneath all others. It is the hardest to expunge for all because it lies at the foundation.
How have you trained yourself to take responsibility for feeling every emotion? I’ve never heard of this practice.
@@blankblank8292 they haven’t. Repression is probably what’s taking place. The emotions cannot be erased without alchemical practice, and even then they’re transformed. Anger transmutes into patience. OP likely hasn’t achieved this because it’s exceedingly rare.
I am a Buddhist monk living in Japan. The message encapsulated in this video is everything that ZEN is. I wish more people would watch this and put the contents into practice!
This is very interesting as I've been studying both Buddhism and Stoicism recently and have noticed much in common philosophically between the two. Best of luck with your practice.
Indefence is not the I don’t care attitude , indeference is knowing who you are honouring it and not fearing being rejected. You cannot control what people think, feel or how they behave. With growing awareness ,you realize indifference is a healthy tool and is used to define who you are or would like to be.
A drastic shift in my perspective came when first, I decided the only opinions I take to heart are those of loved ones and second, I can choose who to love.
Mine was when I was a teenager. I realized that people aren't interested in others. If they judge you, it's only to compare themselves to you. I also realized that I wasn't all that important.
Summary 🌅
Benefits of being indifference -
1)Freedom and authenticity
2) Emotional resilience
3) Better performance
4) Affordable contentment (ataraxia)
5) Rational and objective decision
As a very emotional lady learning to take control of her emotions to be a better person this definitely helps
Practicing mindfulness has helped me immensely in being more indifferent.
This channel has genuinely changed my life. Without it I likely would've never learned about all this philosophical wisdom, especially from taoism and stoicism.
I want to let you know that you are doing something truly great. If there is a God, I hope he blesses you with strength and inner peace.
Since I didn't fit in any society I focused on myself instead. I found out different things about myself that if I had kept associating with others it would be destructive. I learned not to need, or want anything from anyone. This benefitted me greatly.
Are you interested in being indifferent? Then you're not indifferent. But that's not a trap - because you don't control your thoughts or the sensations in your body that emerge. Thus, if in this moment you AREN'T indifferent (you're wrapped up in worry or expectation about an outcome) you have only to admit to yourself that you don't control your thoughts, nor your feelings, and thus the only thing to do is to feel them. Not justify them. Just feel them. The tingles and clenches of anxiety and fear - put your mental cursor on them, because you can't make them go away. But something special happens when you choose instead to welcome the buzzes and clenches and tingles.
If nothing else, you'll see that all of experience (life-ending physical pain aside) is simply endless days of thoughts and body sensations, and that's basically the drama of your entire life. I'm not reducing life to merely that (not at all), but demonstrating simply that the core of our experience in any moment is some mix of thoughts and emotions, and when you make a habit of FEELING the things your body is presenting to you, you realize the thing you've been fearing most your whole life is feeling itself. The main fear is the fear of how you think you'll 'feel' about some potential outcome in the future of which you're afraid (loss, sorrow, embarrassment, etc). And fair enough!
Except you'll see that actually you CAN feel nearly anything (life-ending physical pain aside). And the person you become when you're not afraid to feel the emotions that bubble up naturally (again, not to justify them, not to justify some specific action based on them)... simply the person you become by allowing yourself to feel the things/emotions you've been clenching against all your life - the person you become is who you want to be.
Very brilliant idea and very useful.
That is such an amazing attitude. I've been practicing exactly what you just explained and yes my friend, the changes are amazing. Resistance can very well be futile.
I don't comment enough on your videos, so I want to take a moment to say that I find them very insightful and helpful in my day to day life. Thank you for making them and I hope this comment bumps you up a smidgen in the algorithm. I think more people need to be exposed to this kind of wisdom.
I agree 💯%
Thumbs up moves videos upwards in the algorithms.
Same brah
Yes, let's indoctrinate our human fellas with both actual and factual information
"The essence of balance is detachment. To embrace a cause, to grow fond or spiteful, is to lose one's balance, after which, no action can be trusted."
Well said!
To be genuinely indifferent one must be comfortable in their own skin, that is, know themselves enough to be authentic. Excellent video as usual 👍
...I looked back at the past 7 years today and I felt like I'd been 'trying' forever .. and all I have from that is nervous exhaustion.. so thanks for this video it will help me immensely to let go of trying so much with everything.
Man this is gold! The amount of help I get at just surviving in this world, is incalculable. Thank you thank you souch for these essays ❤️
Never depend upon your own expectations.
Just move forward with an understanding that circumstances can change when you least expect them to change.
And when circumstances do change away and do not meet your expectations with this understanding always to mind as you move along you will not feel any adverse emotional fallout or feel emotionally let down.
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This reminds me of just being perfectly honest with myself. Am I really concerned about this issue? It's a useful question to ask myself often.
As it turns out, I'm mostly concerned about a meal, shelter, and being relatively healthy. Like my brother says "It's not just good, it's good enough!" 😅
Good enough; my compliments to your brother.
Thank you. That was very enlightening and somehow comforting. I’ve been judged harshly because I do prefer my own company and I no longer run around looking for or getting the latest stuff or in that rushed living. Again, thank you.
This immediately resonates with with this! Since childhood, others perceived me as detached or aloof even unemotional to outcomes or chaos of others. As I grew into my true nature, I realized that there is a great power in being extremely empathetic and respectful while also filtering outside forces and opinions that do not serve me well. This has helped tremendously to navigate personal relationships, my activism in the political arena and afforded me to set my own pace as a entrepreneur with my own successful business ventures. In the study of astrology, indifference is one of the strongest traits of an Aquarius sign. Perceiving with a healthy dose of indifference is very empowering while others desperately pine for your reaction to play out their own projected chaos onto others. Indifference is far from being uncaring. It’s about self-preserving and staying in the most positive, more empowering position in order to make the most of any uncontrollable situation. Buddhism teaches this! Very informative!
Superb. Clear, succinct and interesting. No waffle no inane drivel just spot on. 👌
Exactly. I would love to hear your opinion on other intellectual subjects as you demonstrate an ability with words. Strawberry shortcake
Einzelganger
Thank you for all your hard work.
Not only am I learning how better to live my life but I am learning from YOU how to compose a GREAT essay.
The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference and a person should not always be indifferent.
What makes you have this opinion?
@@shannonkuch4942hate is also a form of love, it has a lot toxicity and destruction yes, but it is still a form of love, bcs you still care about the objects of your hatred. Even einzelgänger has videos about the 7 deadly sins and one of them is sloth/laziness, which is the epitome of indifference.
@Emil Kolev "Hate is also a form of love" Yeah, that is what battered women tell themselves every day to justify staying in abusive relationships.
@@Childfree334 unfortunately yes, this is true.
I understood what you said. Hate and love are still in the ‘feelings’ category. Indifferent means no feeling either way.
The attachment to outcome. Damn that hit me hard. I struggle with that and it makes sense that auditions and performances are tough yet when I’m just existing and focus on just enjoying the moment. I thought maybe more experience might help that. Thank you for putting all this in perspective. So much to process this morning 🙏🏾
This is the essence of the ancient Indian text Bhagveth Githa._perform without expectation and the anxiety that comes with it
I started becoming indifferent to most things that were bothering me and I surprisingly found true peace and happiness.
Indifference is truly power. Thank you for sharing this valuable content with us.
The video of the year.
You have no idea how important this video is. you are genius.
This makes a whole lot of sense. We will own nothing and be happy. Klaus wants us to be indifferent.
Who cares what Klaus wants? I don't.
The people who lust after power want maximum dependence of the citizens. Ownership is vital for economical freedom, therefore one cannot be indifferent to it.
If the people are indifferent and do nothing for the tyrant, the tyrant will lose power. How can you oppress those who do not even care?
@@niledemitri3079 By taking everything from them. You need to eat, you need a roof.
For this reason, in my self-improvement journey, I want more compassion and kindness in my life, but not more empath
I don't think those are mutually exclusive, empathy is an important part of compassion. But attachment isn't
This is something I've been working on, it's definitely a tough one if you weren't taught these things growing up
@@Jhawk_2k Good distinction! It's the empathic attachment that will weigh you down, especially when you are a keen observer that's interested in the welfare of the world and the human condition. I had to learn to let that go to get rid of my depression. I realised that the best thing I could do to change the world for the better is to change and balance myself. I shifted the locus of control to within, as opposed to without, realising I'm not at all powerless to effect change: living my ideal to the best of my ability is actually the yielding of a lot of power and can inspire lots of positive change!
Indifference is attractive because you show to people who you really are (your VALUE as a person). They will see you as confident and a person who loves himself. Because of this others might: Scared of you, Hate you, Jealous, or Respect you. Because not everyone has the courage to be who they want to be.
“Focus on the process” Those four words changed everything for me when I first heard them years ago. This is the 🔑 to sports.
A workplace I know has a 'boss' who is currently 'disrupting' beneficial and efficient processes as a show of power.
your video has literally giving me so much wisdom and knowledge, I can't thank you enough.
As Marcus Arelious said, try to approach the situation objectively from a third person‘s perspective. The more you think about it the harder you realize that is to do. But if you can achieve it, it really does give you a true objective outlook.
Wow. Didn’t realize I was ahead of myself. I’ve always been indifferent. I always thought it was being negative but realize I was living my life on my own terms. I like freedom.
I have practised this in relation to egoic outbursts for the past few years. The funny thing is, I often get people coming to me to talk about others behind their backs, and when they see my lack of reaction, they first look shocked… you can see the moment their eyes widen and they lean back slightly. Then, every time without fail, they apologise to me and quickly change the subject. I don’t judge them for any of this, not even in my thoughts. A lot of people here say that people respond badly to their indifference and, this is just a hunch, but I think they may be judging them. That’s why they get a bad reaction.
As Ive aged, I find more and more that there is very little that I’m not indifferent about. I think this has greatly reduced my chances of having heart failure. There is much peace to be found in not giving a s***.
Indifference Makes All Of The Difference. 😎🤷♂️💯
I like the story of the Scythians who had a reputation of being fearless or a bit crazy in war. Their army was lined up facing the more powerful Persian army of Darius and battle was about to commence. A hare (or rabbit by some accounts) ran into the no man's land between the two armies and many Scythians broke ranks to give chase to the hare. Their indifference to the impending battle and the more powerful army they faced caused great consternation, upset and even fear in the ranks of their opponents.
Great video presentation Einzelgänger, I can learn a lot from it!
Great video! For me, it's always an uphill challenge to distinguish between what I can and cannot control, AND following thru with letting go of what I can't control. But when I get it right, in the moment, the pleasure and accomplishment is uncomparable. After all, it's only me. And me controlling me is amazing.
Laying stuff out in the sun to dry or kill bateria is incredible!! Dries stuff and eliminates smells from bacterial growth and such.
I think it should be noted that indifference doesn't grant "personal power" in this sense of it being a source of empowerment. It prevents you from giving it away to others who would like to see you disempowered.
Yes, indifference of the subjects is Power to the ruler. Same as today, indifference of the citizens is Power to the government.
I am still learning to be indifferent to what my mother or even my little sister say or do.
My mother has very high expectations of me, and often reminds me how bad of a daughter i am, how i don’t help around etc. It used to hurt, now i play my indifference card. And we move on without a fight. That gives me peace.
As for my sister, she bullies me from time to time, the reason why she bullies me is just as fucked up. I used to buy her things that she wanted, but at some point i had to put a restriction to that because she kept asking me to buy things for her, that’s when it started, she started calling me names like selfish, ugly, mom doesn’t love me etc. At first i used to explain to her why i have to do what im doing and why its not ok to call me names because of this, doesnt work. Then i just started getting super angry, altho i dont call her names, but i would talk back to her. And now? I’m learning to be indifferent. I choose to not BE like her, i choose to be the adult that i am and not be controlled by her words. Still learning but getting there.
Brilliant subject. This alone can eliminate the neurosis some experience. Thank you for this gem, it reinforces a lot of what I’ve recently learnt and wholeheartedly believe.
Omg... I've been practicing Stoic indifference all my life~ 🥰
Im cautious because indifference easily leads to depression and a sense of alienation from everything. Some amount of enthusiasm and engagement is needed to feel, well, engaged in life. You must appreciate something. The 'care about what you can control, be indifferent about the things you cant' is a good start. the next step is to select the controllable things and build a routine and mind-pattern around appreciating them: The morning and evening sun, food and drinks, fun, slow learning, animals, being quick to laugh and wonder when someones mind is tricked...and sharing these things with people.
One of your best thus far. Practical & timely.
Indifference brings you joy and calm. I consider this a key skill to thrive in life.
I wish I could completely translate this into hindi and share with my parents so that they can listen themselves without my interpretation and perception mixed. It’s beautiful.
My friend and her husband in Philadelphia have the same mindset about showing this to her parents in India!
@@insanejughead knowledge, thoughts and ideas must surpass the language boundaries but if I translate and start explaining it will be like I am sharing my perception and being manipulative so needed it available already in Hindi 😅
I moved away from my teenaged home and city. I used to place meaning in the friends and people I knew there, trying to maintain those relationships and holding expectations of them even though I was 500 miles away. I left in my late 20’s and now I’m retired and 53. As an older man I realized that all those people are still doing the same as they’ve always done, still working, still partying and had I stayed, I’d be doing the same. Nothing those people do or say has any meaning in my life now, even the person I used to believe was my closest friend. I guess that’s the path to indifference.
Great Story, indifference can be just filtering out the bad and the good and everything else that helps us to move forward. Doesn't necessarily have to be no care or don't take action ...but take action and filter things out that we don't need and harming us !!
Good analysis 🎉
I'd say having loose attachment is the ideal. Even things we feel are our purpose/ ready to die for... it sucks, there's things that seemed to be doomed, but long as we realize we are nothing without sanity (or soon would inevitably become)-- it's necessary to some degree. If you truly love something or someone, you have to know where to stop squeezing it/ them so tightly (to the harm of them or yourself). Strive to have secure attachment, not insecure attachment. Much as it can seem an impossible fine line, it is worth it to have/ strive for
Just living thru depression, if you care about anything, it better be important. Care about important things, people, and love. Nothing else will matter eventually.
The core of bhagvadgita (the Indian holy book) is this very message, which is do your duty without being attached to results
This video came at a perfect time. I knew better then to look down on my opinion as careless but I must admit the relentless pursuit some people possess that drives them to ridicule you for “not caring” begins to make me think maybe I’m looking at things in the 3D a lil too careless. But I’m the rock and I can feel good trapped in a hard place if I stay true to my beliefs. Cuz in the end, if it’s not my belief then it’s not my place. And I find this theory of mind so simple yet profound and empowering.
But when indifference becomes “I dont care” that’s when your life becomes meaningless. We live in a era where indifference is often used to escape reality or numb the pain to avoid dealing with the world around us…and life starts slipping away from us…
I disagree. I only have control over MYSELF. What grown adults choose to do with their lives or decisions they make is not my problem. I don't care because there is nothing that I can do to change it. I shrug my shoulders and keep it moving. Indifference and the ultimate IDGAF attitude is what is truly powerful because 99% of people have a herd mentality.
@Sunday Davis completely agree. Some people just don't get it.
Meaningless is not following ur passion
Indifference doesn't mean not caring. It's about not allowing external things affect you emotionally. Thus reacting to the stimuli.
If your life becomes meaningless when you remove judgement of others or stop worrying what other people think of you then you probably have some attachment issues.
Possibly even self esteem issues.
Maybe you need to delete your social media accounts and gauge how much validation you seek through these mediums. If your life and soul depends on using these toxic platforms to promote yourself or to snoop and spy on what others are doing then you may have some work to do on yourself.
Do you even know who you are when you remove superficiality from your life?
What are your beliefs? Interests? Dreams and ideas. Who are you?
Who is your authentic self when you remove all the bull shit?
Take away the fashion, the mobile phone, remove addictions, make up.. drop the mask and explore whi you are without any of these things. Its time to do some soul searching I think.. or seek counselling because ultimately your outlook is morose and bleak.
Which isnt exactly your fault because thats how the western influences and society try to make us all the same.
Dont be a meaningless Sheep like everyone else. Find a purpose In your life.
What u described is apathy, avoid that at all costs. That's like living like a deadbody
5:12 is a huge insight “suppose we believe such events are simply the workings of the universe, which we don’t have control over. And are neither good nor bad in themselves in that case we’ll be emotionally resilient and able to cope when they occur. The Stoics believe that regardless of our hardships, we have the choice of attitude. We should approach all things that are not within our control with an indifference stance. Epictetus spoke of contempt toward things not in our control in contrast to those in our control such as our opinions, pursuits, and other actions originating from our ability to choose. The power of indifference in the Stoic sense is the power to distinguish between things that are within our control and those that are not and to care less of the latter.
And is more or less in alignment with the ancient far eastern philosophy of Wu Wei, the art of effortless action...or something along those lines of contemplation..
Thank you for this channel. And your book. These have changed my life! 😊
Thanks
Thank you, Stephen!
The wisdom is to distinguish between indifference and important things. Sometimes it's not even easy to understand that's under our control or not...
I really appreciate the sentiments and the quote by Emerson.
I've spent the last year trying to finish a creative project (a board game) that I've toyed with for much of my life. The game really defies many of the conventions and tropes of its genre.
While I expected pessimism and negativity, I did not expect the outright ANGER I often receive. Instead of just saying "not for me" and moving on, people often hear my reasons for doing things differently as an indictment of their choices, or perhaps an attack on their intelligence.
I just want to build a better mousetrap. It's not meant to sh*t on the users of traditional mousetraps. But that really is the reflexive emotional response from many people.
I guess what I'm saying is that being a creator is a lonely road. Even very successful creatives are usually eaten alive by their fans eventually- c.f. George Lucas.
I imagine that nothing will ever free me totally from the desire to please others and be accepted by the group. But it helps if I can at least be self aware about that and remind myself that the anger is a reflex and not a valid criticism, and that provoking strong reactions is probably a sign I'm doing something RIGHT.
As an artist, it's far better to be hated than to be ignored. But unfortunately, that isn't the case for just being a person, so thick skin is required. 😢
To me this has been a major motivator towards accruing wealth, I’m not interested in living a spartan existence, but the ability to simply walk away and not follow the herd, whilst still enjoying a high standard of material wealth works for me. We see this in the FI movements so popular with Gen X.
*"In a time when societies are fractured and divided, rulers / manipulators have nearly limitless power over the people, especially the working class" - M. J. Jenkins*
Keep people in a state where they feel distant from each other and alone, and there'll never be an uprising. The oppressors will have free reign to do whatever the f*ck they want, and often without consequence...
practiced it and it WORKS!👍...it gave me peace, contentment, and not caring what others think can make you choose whats best for you. Fame, fortune, money is good, but it doesnt' bring happiness, only contentment does. Cheers!
I grew up with the story of Diogenes and Alexander. My understanding of it is different, not so much indifference but clarity of mind, knowing which things are important to you, standing by your beliefs and outlook whether you are facing a child or an emperor. Diogenes was anything but indifferent and the meaning and connotations of the word may be misconstrued if applied to his famous story.
thank you so much for uploading this. This really saved me from falling back into fear and distrust mainly of myself and so onto others.
Interesting choice for the thumbnail, I like you used old animations as well. Everything looks well put together!
You think? I like that city wall very much. Thanks!
Thanks!
Thank you, Hassan!
This presentation is so good as are others you’ve put up, I really get a lot out of them, I’m sure many people do, a nice simple life suits me, classical music and a good book, a cup of tea watching a beautiful sunrise, a cold beer watching it set, I’m easily entertained, I like people but in small doses, I’d rather have 4 crowns than a hundred pennies, all the best to everyone, also I love the photography in your episodes, so nice
To be indifferent you need a connection to source that “fills you up” leaving you in need of nothing outside of yourself.