I broke up with a female covert narcissist back in May 2023. In November 2023, and still now she is seeing a married man. The woman has no shame, and no moral values. The woman keeps a poker face all the time. And I was very much in love with that woman. What a shame.
God bless you, may you heal. Just know that you did not love her, you loved who she was pretending to be. There is a difference. Since narcissists mirror and groom their partners, the woman you loved, doesn't actually exist. The female you see now, is the truth. She is someone constantly looking for supply, not caring about who is harmed in the process, feeling no remorse. Beware of hoovering ... because even though she is messing around with someone now, your number is still in her phone (and will always be). When a narcissist can't find new supply, she returns to old supply. Lee Hammock, of Mental Healness, said he once tried to hoover an ex 9 years later! Even if your connection with her ended badly ... she would return saying: "I needed for us to break up, I needed to fall on my face, to see what I lost when I lost you. You are the one who got away" And love bombing 2.0 is greater than it was the first time. But eventually, her true self will always show! Be strong!
My narcissistic ex could never manipulate me fully, it was a long distance social media relationship, she never met me in person, 6 months of nonsensical interactions with all manipulations, love bombing, even when I travelled to India to the city where she works and lives, still avoided meetup saying she was ill, after discard she told me she doesn't care who sees her naked but crying...such a twisted personality, now she is after me, but i am in a relationship with someone i had known long enough...
Yep! They will do this to destroy other family relationships too. A stepmother like she describes will destroy a man’s relationships with his children... often beyond repair. Living it!
First she tried to make me look like a bad person in front of my husband. She pushed my buttons which she already knew about. Meanwhile, taking all the steps in this video right in front of me. I was uncomfortable with her behavior, my intuition was screaming but, she gave no real cause for my negative responses to her.
Narcissists/cluster B's/BPD are unbelievably predictable. Running a program like a piece of software in the matrix. Not a real person. They are all the same story, different narrative but Lise is able to explain the code of these robots.
Borderlines are not the same. People need to stop slandering this group of people by saying that they are. There's a reason why they're not in the Dark Triad. It is because they are not evil. The borderline people have consciences. They are simply too emotional. In fact, its original name was the emotionally unstable disorder. They experience guilt and remorse. They love for real. Usually, too much. They aren't fake. They have real personalities and a real self. They do share some common features with narcissists, but they differ in the most significant, life destroying things. A borderline's love is absolutely real and ridiculously passionate. It's not just a faked idealization phase utilizing a false personality, and a thousand layers of lies.
so spot on it’s scary. Seeing how textbook his affair was now takes it’s power away from her over me she’s a sick woman and he was in a bad place. My therapist says women like her can sniff a man in pain and vulnerable out it’s easy supply for them
Amen! As a survivor of infidelity ... this is what infidelity specific therapy teaches: When you have an affair, you will always affair down in comparison to who you betray. Why? Because when you reach the point where you are willing to toss your integrity in order to cheat, it's because you met someone equally lacking in integrity. Love makes you into a better person, it doesn't roll in mud with you. A strong woman (or man- if you're a cheating wife) knows her worth as a human being. She respects herself and would not lap up another woman's sloppy seconds, she would not allow a man to screw her- then go home to someone else (gross) ... but she also respects other women. She would not do to another woman, what she would not want done to her. These are just simple facts. Affair fog is one in the same with narcissistic fog. You're falling for brand new and easy (A covert narcissist. Since affairs are misery loves company, as you are complaining about your spouse or marriage, you're giving her the blueprints on how to groom you- duh!) ... and you're destroying what is real and worthwhile. I tell people this: Google 6 words. ODDS OF AN AFFAIR MAKING IT. The answer is grim. You fell for a lie.
My ex who is a covert narcissist was poached by another covert narcissist. Jokes on them, they each thought the other was an empath. She wound up baby trapping him, and telling him she lost her apt and had no where to live. he refused to marry her, he cheated, she cheated and stopped sleeping with him, lol, justice served. That’s not the half of it, what a circus.
Such lady helped me to end the marriage I wanted to end,but had no courage to do. We dated for 2 years after my divorce and recently she dumped me for her new supply. I think that this is win-win for me. Now, for the first time in my life, I am free to be myself and live for myself, I am happy. Now I want peace in my relationships.
Exact. Same. Thing. Happened to me. 2.5-3yrs with her. I tried to mold her into my soulmate, like an idiot. Many, many lessons learned. I had to forgive myself, or the guilt and alcohol probably would have killed me. Brothers, stay strong. Be courageous enough to face your problems, within your committed relationships, or within your own behavior. Don't be like me.
Although I’ve never been married, I do have to say this is literally how it happened to me. I don’t know what it’s going to take for me to call it as I see it. Anyone watching this video, listen to it and watch it over and over until you get it. This video will save you to an extent. Stay healthy and safe inside your body🤙🏼😉 Thank you Lise
I completely relate to this. In my experience, my advice would be to go no contact as soon as possible. Even if you’re deeply entangled, never doubt that she IS a narcissist (i.o. a dangerous psycho) because if you’ve reached this point, she likely is. Educate yourself - watching those videos, especially by Dr. Ramani and others (even if they’re primarily for female victims), literally saved me. I also went to therapy, and it helped tremendously, especially armed with the knowledge I gained. You are lucky to have this channel - when I had problems there were no resources for man.
My husband of 22 years who is a Covert Narcissist left me for his emotional affair partner, who is also a Narcissist. This is the second and last time. I know it’s bitter, but I hope she puts him through hell.
I had this exact thing happen to me a year ago. I never gave in and she eventually discarded and ghosted me. But she employed every tactic that’s mentioned in this video. It broke me for a time. But I still have family.
@@DrKango She must’ve realized that she wasn’t going to get what she wanted from me and pretended like I didn’t exist, as a form of punishment. She never really came back after that.
Be strong... Be rude, bad, really bad... Discard her... Block her everywhere and don't react when she burns your soul. Focus on your people... She will feast on your goodness until you lose your soul and sanity
@@em7937 There's no "Lol" to it. It broke me because I wanted to believe that she was my friend, and that I had meant something to her the way that she made me feel that I had meant something to her. I clearly saw her good qualities and didn't want her to be someone who was that controlled by her own Dark Side. Either way, it's the internal conflict that we all deal with in one form or another.
@@em7937 ok, you’re just being a troll. I’m sure I could look into your past and find plenty of things to judge you and troll you about. Time to move on.
Yep. My ex covert narcissist wife cheated with a coworker that was 23 years younger than her THEN she cheated with my ex friend that had a wife and 2 young kids. Now everyone involved is spread throughout the US. I’m in the north east, 20 year old in California, Affair partner with wife & 2 young kids in the south, and the Jezebel is in Montana
Thank you Lise. I wish I had of had this information years ago. I never had an affair but my ex was toxic. Ironically after years of being single I was contacted by the girl I had a short relationship with after my separation. She was going through a divorce with someone who has narc traits. She told me she wanted to reconnect. She did everything by the book. Love bomb devalue discard. I even sent her information on narcissistic abuse to help her through her divorce. That was even projected back to me and she was calling me a narcissist. Thankfully i had educated myself enough to know what was going on. Your videos have been a huge help for me. Like you said it's hard for men to find help for narcissistic abuse. Thanks again
My ex wife got her kicks making passes at married men. She got off on stealing another woman’s husband. She preferred a pre selected man. Complete garbage. Our marriage lasted 7 months.
My wife of 20 years always targeted married men, I think she gets off on it by stealing another womens husband. She caught 3 stds...... natural justice. She caught herpes so now she is spreading her misery around now.
Hey Doc, if I'd only seen this video 30 years ago! Everyone else, don't ignore or under value these steps. All of Lisa's posts I've watched have been accurate to the letter. In this video, the statement "more than you bargain for.." refers to pain, misery, and anguish.
My dear God.. for a moment i felt i am in a dream while watching this video because it describes my actual life situation in such a details that no one could know about... This is so accurate...almost terrifying. Thank you soo much for this content. You have just saved me and my family. Oh God how could have I been so stupid blind and naive.
It’s a mirror and I’m looking at it 😢. Did you save your marriage? What did you do? I’m in need of some advice but is different when people don’t know what I’m talking about. I hope I’m not offending you or prying. Thanks
@@marthaelenamoratoluna6259 I am still living with my wife because she has been unable secure a reliable source of narc supply. My solution which has helped is to not engage with her unless it is absolutely necessary. I have a 13 year old son so I am happy that I see him each day. I was hoping that one of her affairs would steal her away but she is 44 and most dudes will only be looking for a quick smash rather than a LTR. My plan for now is being able to have daily access to my boy to ensure his protection but in the future her and I have no future. When the enemy is in the process of destroying themselves, do not interfere. Do not delude yourself, your marriage was over before it begun, these narcs only have love for themselves, everything else is a manipulation. They will never ever be faithful, its impossible for them and they will never support you unless there is something in it for themselves. Hope this helps.
Deception is real…my husband… now ex husband was deceived too…by his secretary with this tactics…I saw the she devil 👿 & try to warn my husband but he wanted what he wanted…games lies and deception…never make for a great relationship…💯
God , this is so true, literally happened to me, pretty much word for word. Ended up with her for 8 years before the final discard. We were both married when we met and pretty much went along exactly as portrayed here. Be careful out there.
This was scarily accurate, wow! This happened when my wife was emotionally neglectful and I was in an incredibly lonely place. After my wife’s discard a couple years later, I realized this woman (who I thankfully didn’t get physical with) was also a narc. There’s something in me that causes me to get drawn to narcs unknowingly that I need to fix.
Your need for an ego boost because that's what love bombing does ego boost to men is one hell of a drug these women know this and fear of failure be it at marriage, relationship,friendship or business,fear can n will make you ignore all kinds of red fjags
I was dating a girl when I met my wife. I kept it platonic with her for 3 months. I eventually broke up with my girlfriend. At the time I thought this was messy and terrible. I cried about my decision for 3 months. I also told her my deepest, darkest secrets. The details of my childhood. I also thought that seemed messy and wrong. As it turns out I now believe those two factors are what brought us together. She wanted to win. She wanted me to choose her. She was also looking for a damaged person that would be easier to control. It's all so clear now. Sad. I feel like a fool.
Don’t worry about feeling like a fool. We all make mistakes, even me. No one is perfect. At least you have learned some important lessons. Some people never learn, so you’re a successful person from my point of view. You didn’t get badly burnt psychologically like some people have.
@@walkietalkie6679Most??? Maybe a lot have narcissistic traits. Being in a relationship with a woman who has narcissistic traits is Vastly Different than being in a relationship with a woman who has Narcissistic Personality DISORDER. These people have a pathological personality disorder that’s highly psychologically/emotionally damaging to their victims (intimate partners). Huge difference.
Yep! The narc I am married to got involved with a narc neighbor. I was working. I went to therapy, it was so devastating. I was told they are trying to drive me out of our purchased home and then ignore her as if she isn't there. Damn if going to let some tKe my home. She started snapping, no fuel. She moved. I am disgusted at the fool I am living with. I am getting my ducks in a row. Glad it was worth it to them because I will get my joy and freedom back. This post really explained it. Thank you.
It’s almost as if Lisa Lablanc followed me around from Jan/April. ( minus the wife) I feel somehow vindicated as I really thought I was losing my mind. With Gratitude
My husband told me my cousin was hitting on him and harrasing him.,we changed our phone numbers and went grey rock on her.. 20 yrs later saw her at funeral. My husband did not recognise her when she came over to greet him, he left her speechless. It was hilarious.
I thank God, literally, I have run from honey traps like this before they could get started. But, I have friends and family who have not...and you articulately described the results.
Ma’am ur a Godsend angel for me. Just broke up a 4 year old relationship with a covert female and have been very depressed and confused lately…but after watching a few videos of urs…it hits like a brick on my face and it’s scary to realise that I was being played the whole time. Thank u ma’am from the bottom of my heart ❤️ 🙏🏼.
This happened to me. A female covert broke up with me to be with a married man that she met online. The mans wife and kids were devastated but no one cared. Not my ex, not him. Maybe they are perfect for one another i suppose since they are both probably narcissists
My ex narc husband left my 3 children and myself for his new supply. She is definitely a narcissist herself. She knew he was married for 19 years. He gave up custody of our 3 children and moved over 1200 miles away. Terrible.
I fell for that shit. Several therapists have suggested that to me, that she manipulated me. Why did I let that happen? It's complex, but I've been coconstructing my sinking ship. The more I learn about female narcissistic behaviour the more I realise how stupid I've been. I went along through every turn with open eyes, but thinking that I must be wrong, that I have the wrong impression. That it's me projecting, that she doesn't know better... Her words never matched her actions. That made me so confused. Every fiber of my body screamed run... But yea, she had me addicted and instead of staying true to myself, I stayed, I got used to that shit and broke. For some reason I believed that we would eventually be able to have honest dialogues. But there is no honesty with narcissists because they are not honest to themselves and they don't belive that others ate either. So the world is constructed to their convenience everyday over again. One day the car is blue the other day its a bulldozer. If you point out that it was a car the other day, you get attacked for pointing out the difference. These people will never admit to anything accept when it's just fucking right in front of them, and even then they just laugh about it. They expect that you constantly take emotional responsibility for them, while they don't consider your perspective at all. They are not able to see that. Theory of mind is just not possible from their perspective. Gosh, I could go on and on...
As usual, you are spot-on, Lise. One important point for your followers. The steps in this video can happen very quickly, over a matter of months...maybe weeks. Married for 40 years I met someone, also married, who rocked my world exactly as Lise describes here. The process feels exactly like a new love. It exploits all the vulnerabilities in your marriage. In addition, she had a little girl who i fell in love with. She exploited that relationship, making me feel like her sarrogate father. After 2 years of bliss, then a couple months of pulling away, I was ghosted. It's been 5 years now and I'm still hurting. She is now divorced, but I have no interest and learned a valuable life lesson.
Big big thank You ! Covert narcissist females - knowledge about them it's like "forbiden knowledge" in this time. You help me to understand what was/is going on in my 30-year marriage. I'm a shadow of a man which I was but Your video materials bring me hope for back to life. Thank You very, very much !
was talking to a woman last year who did all these things i thought she was really cool at first because she was basically mirroring me ,then i found out she was talking too a married man...i saw the text exchange between them...she was saying she was in love...i ghosted her and never spoke to her again
Lise, a fabulous summary of the psychodrama as it plays out (as I have sadly found out to my cost). I am a 71 year old man and think it's wonderful that you see things from the male perspective. I very much admire you, your delivery and your excellent work. Sincere thanks, Brian
This would be an intricate, brilliant scheme if anyone planned it out. But this is INSTINCTIVE for the narcissist. Lise, how in the world do covert narcissists all get wired to act this way?
OMG the timing of this is too uncanny for the universe not to be aware! Married, yes. (separated for 8 months now). Been unsatisfied in the (sexless, biz relationship) marriage for a decade or more so looked for a side encounter (I know!). I fell head over heels in love and left my wife for the narc. I've been living rough in an apartment my ex and I had already bought to entirely gut and renovate (no hot water, no kitchen no gas etc - was a hard winter). I worked on the project and my regular job while I lived in it and my ex-wife amicably agreed to divorce when it's finished but remained married for logistical reasons. But sh*t got batsh*t craaaazy with the BPD/narc once she had me there and I found myself in an emotionally and even physically at times (her) abusive relationship but unable to walk away until I was discarded and hoovered several times. I was codependent until I woke up and saved myself. Only just last night, despite knowing what she was for some time now, I finally cut her off completely (blocked) after her recent hoover attempt. I'd been doing well and focusing on myself. My marriage was over anyway and I'm aware that what I did was completely unacceptable. But this woman is extremely alluring and extremely good at what she does! The future faking was amazing. It was the perfect storm. I wasn't aware of this disorder beforehand. It's been a learning experience and I've certainly gotten what I deserved multiple times over.
Yes, they are very good at what they do. It's almost as if they have sixth sense about it. I thought i had enough street smarts to keep from falling for such black magic but i wss a chump.
Lise, the information in this video is helping me to understand part of my life. Thank you for posting great quality content, I hope tons of people affected by a narcicist spouse watch this, so they get encouraged to seek for profesional help. God bless you.
Thank you for this information. I very narrowly avoided starting a relationship with a narcissistic woman a year and a half ago. I was unfamiliar with narcissistic behavior, but I knew something was wrong, the rudeness, disrespect,deflecting, was all intentional. I was aware of the red flags and did not ignore them. As a Sigma INFJ, my intuition really saved me, and telling my sister everything for an outside perspective. Fortunately, walked away before anything went anywhere,and it still took a lot of healing from the trauma. Thanks to your video, know exactly what I avoided.
when I feel a slip/relapse into the what-if fantasies where I idealized her/Us, I come back to this video as a great refresher/reminder of what I went through - it reinforces my No Contact wall. thank you so much!
My question is how this differs from how a non-narcissistic woman would go about seducing a married man. It seems to me that there may not be many differences until after they have gotten what they wanted.
Non narcissistic woman would go about this the same way, women that grew up in toxic environment can only relate by manipulation, they enjoy the game process not the relationship itself or the person that they are trying to lure. Sometimes they ruin marriages for the sake of ruining, they didn’t plan to be with the person long term.
Non narcissistic women would not be this deliberate. They’d have moral apprehensions about pursuing a married man and will create boundaries. If anything happened between a married man and non narc, it would be more of a natural progression based on their organic (not manufactured) chemistry. A non narc woman won’t aim to seduce, but she’ll genuinely fall in love with him.
SOUNDS GOOD TO ME!! if one is educated on narcissists, when they start playing up- we are already educated as to what they are- so...we can easily let them go! but we did have a hell of a time ! can you talk about this in a video?
Please do a video on men pursuing a married women and trying to be covert in front of the husband . This has happened to Us and My Wife said he had a crush on Her and then went silent . This has caused my extreme depression to worsen .
It’s remarkable how accurate this is, and the way this script keeps playing out globally. The only plausible cause is that narcs are more common than it seemed some years ago. Anyway, your videos provide a crucial service. Thank you
My first hubby was seduced this way, but it started with triangulation, where she pretended to be my friend. My last boyfriend was taken the same way. I refused the triangulation, but she managed to do it anyway. Even though he admits I did nothing wrong, he never wants to see me again.
Hi Lise! I'm a big fan of your RUclips channel and the insightful content you create. I wanted to suggest a topic that I think would be fascinating to explore: 'Female Covert Narcissist's Fragile Ego.' It's an often overlooked aspect of narcissism, and delving into the characteristics, behaviors, and challenges related to the fragile ego of female covert narcissists could provide valuable insights for your viewers. I believe it would be a thought-provoking and informative video. Thank you for considering it! Keep up the great work!"
Thank you Mother Mary for heroic purity and true love that shows us what real beauty looks like! Thank you for showing us how to treat our brothers in modesty and with genuine honesty!! Example taken!🙏🏻
Lisa Lebleau you are spot on how many you could not lay out my stupid life any better I’ve been completely sideswiped love bomb sex bomb discarded everything I’m learning a lot from you I enjoy the videos
Thank you for sharing your informative posts as they have helped me a lot. I managed an attempt of a poem about narcissism and I hope it is alright that I share it. So here it is. The Claws of a Narcissist By Craig Childers Narcissism is becoming more frequently known, A dysfunctional prefrontal cortex as science has shown, The self objectivity is absent you see And they are null and void of any empathy, They exploit and coerce with triangulation, And engage in emotional indoctrination They have fantasies of unlimited success, While keeping their targets in constant duress, On top of the world in their delusional state, Manipulating others is clearly their fate, They will devalue you amongst your friends From their relentless spite, there is no end
They expect all praise and admiration As they indulge in their targets humiliation They will over idealize with all their intent With no introspection in a mind well bent The narcissist does not make any mistakes And in their exploits there are no brakes There is no light in the mind of a narcissist Just arrogance, darkness, and haughtiness They exert circular reasoning and gas lighting And straw man fallacy partners with belittling They engage word salad in a manipulative tone And recruit flying monkeys to keep their targets alone So pompous, entitled, and grandiose, But that is what the public wants to see Control is destiny in their insecure mind To your right and your left, you’ll find like kind Their charm and charisma will mesmerize all But failure’s fear can make them fall And in the prefrontal cortex that science now knows Are the claws of a narcissist that continue to glow It would be nice to make it open for others to make revisions and make community poems ini a sense. Thanks again Lise.
Very well done! 👏👏 Thank you for sharing🙏 I'm sorry you endured that horrific experience. I'm an escaped survivor daughter of a female covert malignant narc birth monster. 👹 I witnessed this vile behavior of her targeting married or committed men while growing up🤮 along with being terrorized covertly my entire life. These monsters are MASTERS of destruction! I hope you have learned to give yourself grace and forgiveness in your healing journey. 🙏💚 Sending blessings, strength and continued healing vibes your way🙏💪💪💚💫
@@juliekeener9730 One thing it has done for me, has added a new dimension to those moments of privacy that I do get. The solice is much more.profound. Having to deal with it from a mother is an entirely different ball of wax, as the narcissist has full and complete control over someones entire youth, and the dependency as serious control factor. There is no longer lasting, worse experience, than having a parent that way. How can you un-condition yourself from an entire youth?
Mis Lise you agift to us because you have healed my wound after reading your article but I almost lost my beautiful wife after falling in love with a female convert
This is also true if the man isn't married. I have identified a few women like this. Thank you, @LiseLeblanc for your insightful and informative videos!
My husband says 75 % of this is spot on as to his affair. Perhaps it’s also 100 in reality, I will never know. Thank you Lise for opening the eyes of so many men and also for partly opening women’s eyes to their own behavior. Most of us have some narcissistic patterns, and I was not at all aware of mine.
Thanks to Lise I just keep the gate locked all the time now except for grocery delivery. I don't answer the phone, and never go out. Just working out in my home gym and avoiding women at all cost. It's great. I'm the healthiest I've ever been, I'm debt free, and saving so much money. She's basically a gym coach and financial counselor disguised as a relationship expert.
This is so true, it happened to me my ex female narcissist. Did this to me when she fell for a taxi driver rugged to my face at the same time I’m very thankful she’s gone.
You literally just described my wife 😔. She did this to her young coworker, 15 years younger. His poor wife, they had only been married 2 years, was befriended by my wife and then betrayed by her. I literally lived a lie for 15 years. I ignored every red flag and loved my wife. Stayed married so my kids would have a home. I’m by no means chopped liver or a weak man, but for my kids and future grandchildren🤞 I’ve stayed with her…. This is hard to hear.
My dad fell for this garbage when he was with his 2nd wife & had 3 little kids. This predator was 13 years younger than him. She lured him with sex since she had nothing else going for her. His 2nd wife (stepmother) didn’t like sex and this predator picked up on his need for it. His marriage to stepmother ended and our family was split apart. I was living with my grandparents & dad moved her in. She would moan like an old alley cat in heat and it would wake me up at night when I had school the next day. They lived together for about 3 years and my dad still hadn’t married her... so she mysteriously got pregnant after telling my dad she couldn’t have kids. Surprise!!! Surprise!!! She got him to marry her without a prenup and stealthily pushed his other children out of his life. Only she & their daughter benefitted and she is just waiting for him to die.
I'm a married man but I almost lost my wife because we started dis agreemens with my wife from no where I was emotional disconnected from my dear wife and three children I almost went mad I saw hope in her and later she abandoned me after silent treatment
Sadly - the vast majority of these comments are from men who learned this painful, tragic lesson the hard way and have already been schooled/punked…. ergo the bulk of all the drama and costly, irreparable damage has already occurred. Guys! Please take heed! It’s quite literally impossible to overstate the value/ benefit AND importance of healing yourself so that this never happens to you (again). These predatory women are cruel, heartless, soulless creatures who lack a conscience. They pray on good men who are vulnerable bc they are lonely, have low self esteem, and weak & porous boundaries. Do the work, fellas - you are so SO worth it!
My ex who was either npd/bpd discarded me and immediately hooked up with a married guy, preceded to tell me about it, and then started asking for my help and advice when she felt bad about being a side piece. A totally abusive disgusting human
My narc ex hubby met a married woman at work....he started suddenly treating me terrible and distant. They were both totally infatuated with one another and love bombing to no end. This wasn't the 1st time he cheated so I was DONE. 17 years wasted on a idiot. A liar, abuser, manipulation to no end, and his family was the exact same way. He'd take women to his moms for getaways. I cut him totally out of my life. It never gets beter..let those people goooo
The problem was your husband.. not her. Why is it women keep coming on to channels specifically geared towards men and then complain about their husbands or make it about them? I don't get it. We come on here to read comments from other men ..not to hear more man bashing.
The finest breakdown and deconstruction of the PC romantic world of the narcissist. P.s. maybe this was an important factor in the Chris Watts case i.e. his extramarital girlfriend?
I broke up with a female covert narcissist back in May 2023. In November 2023, and still now she is seeing a married man. The woman has no shame, and no moral values. The woman keeps a poker face all the time. And I was very much in love with that woman. What a shame.
God bless you, may you heal. Just know that you did not love her, you loved who she was pretending to be. There is a difference. Since narcissists mirror and groom their partners, the woman you loved, doesn't actually exist. The female you see now, is the truth. She is someone constantly looking for supply, not caring about who is harmed in the process, feeling no remorse. Beware of hoovering ... because even though she is messing around with someone now, your number is still in her phone (and will always be). When a narcissist can't find new supply, she returns to old supply. Lee Hammock, of Mental Healness, said he once tried to hoover an ex 9 years later! Even if your connection with her ended badly ... she would return saying: "I needed for us to break up, I needed to fall on my face, to see what I lost when I lost you. You are the one who got away" And love bombing 2.0 is greater than it was the first time. But eventually, her true self will always show! Be strong!
My narcissistic ex could never manipulate me fully, it was a long distance social media relationship, she never met me in person, 6 months of nonsensical interactions with all manipulations, love bombing, even when I travelled to India to the city where she works and lives, still avoided meetup saying she was ill, after discard she told me she doesn't care who sees her naked but crying...such a twisted personality, now she is after me, but i am in a relationship with someone i had known long enough...
Same thing here! They are scum!
Feel for you
Run, don’t walk, to the nearest exit. Now.
The female covert narcissist I know, did not try to directly poach my husband, but she worked on creating division between us.
Yep! They will do this to destroy other family relationships too. A stepmother like she describes will destroy a man’s relationships with his children... often beyond repair. Living it!
Creating division is a version of directly poaching your husband for her
First she tried to make me look like a bad person in front of my husband. She pushed my buttons which she already knew about. Meanwhile, taking all the steps in this video right in front of me. I was uncomfortable with her behavior, my intuition was screaming but, she gave no real cause for my negative responses to her.
They like targeting single fathers also 😮
Devil in human body
I remember a coworker told me that she only "dates" married men. That's chilling.
Scum, no self esteem.
Jeez, this one creeped me out😮stay strong fellas, the snakes be slithering.
If they cheat with you they'll cheat on you
Absolutely. It's best to stay away from people who lack a conscience.
Narcissists/cluster B's/BPD are unbelievably predictable. Running a program like a piece of software in the matrix. Not a real person. They are all the same story, different narrative but Lise is able to explain the code of these robots.
Well put. The original artificial intelligence.
Borderlines are not the same. People need to stop slandering this group of people by saying that they are. There's a reason why they're not in the Dark Triad. It is because they are not evil. The borderline people have consciences. They are simply too emotional. In fact, its original name was the emotionally unstable disorder. They experience guilt and remorse. They love for real. Usually, too much. They aren't fake. They have real personalities and a real self. They do share some common features with narcissists, but they differ in the most significant, life destroying things. A borderline's love is absolutely real and ridiculously passionate. It's not just a faked idealization phase utilizing a false personality, and a thousand layers of lies.
so spot on it’s scary. Seeing how textbook his affair was now takes it’s power away from her over me she’s a sick woman and he was in a bad place. My therapist says women like her can sniff a man in pain and vulnerable out it’s easy supply for them
The grass isnt greener brothers! TRUST ME! FIX YOUR CURRENT RELATIONSHIP. This video hits the nail on the head! She isnt your soul mate
Amen! As a survivor of infidelity ... this is what infidelity specific therapy teaches: When you have an affair, you will always affair down in comparison to who you betray. Why? Because when you reach the point where you are willing to toss your integrity in order to cheat, it's because you met someone equally lacking in integrity. Love makes you into a better person, it doesn't roll in mud with you. A strong woman (or man- if you're a cheating wife) knows her worth as a human being. She respects herself and would not lap up another woman's sloppy seconds, she would not allow a man to screw her- then go home to someone else (gross) ... but she also respects other women. She would not do to another woman, what she would not want done to her. These are just simple facts. Affair fog is one in the same with narcissistic fog. You're falling for brand new and easy (A covert narcissist. Since affairs are misery loves company, as you are complaining about your spouse or marriage, you're giving her the blueprints on how to groom you- duh!) ... and you're destroying what is real and worthwhile. I tell people this: Google 6 words. ODDS OF AN AFFAIR MAKING IT. The answer is grim. You fell for a lie.
My ex who is a covert narcissist was poached by another covert narcissist. Jokes on them, they each thought the other was an empath. She wound up baby trapping him, and telling him she lost her apt and had no where to live. he refused to marry her, he cheated, she cheated and stopped sleeping with him, lol, justice served. That’s not the half of it, what a circus.
Such lady helped me to end the marriage I wanted to end,but had no courage to do. We dated for 2 years after my divorce and recently she dumped me for her new supply. I think that this is win-win for me. Now, for the first time in my life, I am free to be myself and live for myself, I am happy. Now I want peace in my relationships.
Exact. Same. Thing. Happened to me. 2.5-3yrs with her. I tried to mold her into my soulmate, like an idiot. Many, many lessons learned. I had to forgive myself, or the guilt and alcohol probably would have killed me.
Brothers, stay strong. Be courageous enough to face your problems, within your committed relationships, or within your own behavior. Don't be like me.
❤ today was my day 😁🙏♥️
Although I’ve never been married, I do have to say this is literally how it happened to me. I don’t know what it’s going to take for me to call it as I see it. Anyone watching this video, listen to it and watch it over and over until you get it. This video will save you to an extent. Stay healthy and safe inside your body🤙🏼😉
Thank you Lise
She employed everything you mentioned about to me and it was the hardest time I have ever faced in my life
I’m now in a similar situation, what did you do about this? Thanks
I completely relate to this. In my experience, my advice would be to go no contact as soon as possible. Even if you’re deeply entangled, never doubt that she IS a narcissist (i.o. a dangerous psycho) because if you’ve reached this point, she likely is. Educate yourself - watching those videos, especially by Dr. Ramani and others (even if they’re primarily for female victims), literally saved me. I also went to therapy, and it helped tremendously, especially armed with the knowledge I gained. You are lucky to have this channel - when I had problems there were no resources for man.
@@marthaelenamoratoluna6259Same…SAME here…absolutely a living hell even after no contact…do you have any advice???
I wasn't married but these steps were still employed on me.... amazing video
Always the victim looking for a hero....only to tear them down.
Notice their talk is 90% of the time about Hero(ism) or Victims. Someone being the hero vs someone being the victim
That's good I like that
Thank you for sharing this information! All Husbands going thru a mid life crisis need to watch this.
I needed to read your comment and see this video about 8 years ago. You as well as Lise are 100% correct.
My husband of 22 years who is a Covert Narcissist left me for his emotional affair partner, who is also a Narcissist. This is the second and last time. I know it’s bitter, but I hope she puts him through hell.
@@shamimtemourI'm in the same scenario.
yeah, women don't cheat. Good call
Almost word for word, she also knows male ego and how to use it!
I had this exact thing happen to me a year ago. I never gave in and she eventually discarded and ghosted me. But she employed every tactic that’s mentioned in this video. It broke me for a time. But I still have family.
How you managed to get rid of her ?
@@DrKango She must’ve realized that she wasn’t going to get what she wanted from me and pretended like I didn’t exist, as a form of punishment. She never really came back after that.
Be strong... Be rude, bad, really bad... Discard her... Block her everywhere and don't react when she burns your soul. Focus on your people... She will feast on your goodness until you lose your soul and sanity
@@em7937 There's no "Lol" to it. It broke me because I wanted to believe that she was my friend, and that I had meant something to her the way that she made me feel that I had meant something to her. I clearly saw her good qualities and didn't want her to be someone who was that controlled by her own Dark Side. Either way, it's the internal conflict that we all deal with in one form or another.
@@em7937 ok, you’re just being a troll. I’m sure I could look into your past and find plenty of things to judge you and troll you about. Time to move on.
Yep. My ex covert narcissist wife cheated with a coworker that was 23 years younger than her THEN she cheated with my ex friend that had a wife and 2 young kids. Now everyone involved is spread throughout the US. I’m in the north east, 20 year old in California, Affair partner with wife & 2 young kids in the south, and the Jezebel is in Montana
They are destroyers
Thank you Lise. I wish I had of had this information years ago. I never had an affair but my ex was toxic. Ironically after years of being single I was contacted by the girl I had a short relationship with after my separation. She was going through a divorce with someone who has narc traits. She told me she wanted to reconnect. She did everything by the book. Love bomb devalue discard. I even sent her information on narcissistic abuse to help her through her divorce. That was even projected back to me and she was calling me a narcissist. Thankfully i had educated myself enough to know what was going on. Your videos have been a huge help for me. Like you said it's hard for men to find help for narcissistic abuse. Thanks again
My ex wife got her kicks making passes at married men. She got off on stealing another woman’s husband. She preferred a pre selected man. Complete garbage. Our marriage lasted 7 months.
My wife of 20 years always targeted married men, I think she gets off on it by stealing another womens husband. She caught 3 stds...... natural justice. She caught herpes so now she is spreading her misery around now.
Hey Doc, if I'd only seen this video 30 years ago! Everyone else, don't ignore or under value these steps. All of Lisa's posts I've watched have been accurate to the letter. In this video, the statement "more than you bargain for.." refers to pain, misery, and anguish.
My dear God.. for a moment i felt i am in a dream while watching this video because it describes my actual life situation in such a details that no one could know about... This is so accurate...almost terrifying. Thank you soo much for this content. You have just saved me and my family. Oh God how could have I been so stupid blind and naive.
My wife is a covert narc and when you see videos like this and read forums, all narcs use the same techniques, its like they all read the same book.
It’s a mirror and I’m looking at it 😢. Did you save your marriage? What did you do? I’m in need of some advice but is different when people don’t know what I’m talking about. I hope I’m not offending you or prying. Thanks
@@marthaelenamoratoluna6259 I am still living with my wife because she has been unable secure a reliable source of narc supply. My solution which has helped is to not engage with her unless it is absolutely necessary. I have a 13 year old son so I am happy that I see him each day. I was hoping that one of her affairs would steal her away but she is 44 and most dudes will only be looking for a quick smash rather than a LTR. My plan for now is being able to have daily access to my boy to ensure his protection but in the future her and I have no future. When the enemy is in the process of destroying themselves, do not interfere. Do not delude yourself, your marriage was over before it begun, these narcs only have love for themselves, everything else is a manipulation. They will never ever be faithful, its impossible for them and they will never support you unless there is something in it for themselves. Hope this helps.
They use the SAME SCRIPT - the good thing is once you know - you go
How you managed the situation ?
This was my exactly situation - every step just as you described. I left and eternally regret it.
Deception is real…my husband… now ex husband was deceived too…by his secretary with this tactics…I saw the she devil 👿 & try to warn my husband but he wanted what he wanted…games lies and deception…never make for a great relationship…💯
I'm here wondering if I want to be taken advantage of or not
Funny.
@10:02 "...you'll feel absolutely horrible, but you have no idea of what a blessing in disguise this really is"
God , this is so true, literally happened to me, pretty much word for word. Ended up with her for 8 years before the final discard. We were both married when we met and pretty much went along exactly as portrayed here. Be careful out there.
This was scarily accurate, wow! This happened when my wife was emotionally neglectful and I was in an incredibly lonely place. After my wife’s discard a couple years later, I realized this woman (who I thankfully didn’t get physical with) was also a narc. There’s something in me that causes me to get drawn to narcs unknowingly that I need to fix.
My poor dad was like this - Narcissistic wife, Narcissistic mistress 😅
Your an empath my friend
You have to learn about them!
Did she accused you of being a narcissist and your wife of being crazy? Asking for a friend...
Your need for an ego boost because that's what love bombing does ego boost to men is one hell of a drug these women know this and fear of failure be it at marriage, relationship,friendship or business,fear can n will make you ignore all kinds of red fjags
I was dating a girl when I met my wife. I kept it platonic with her for 3 months. I eventually broke up with my girlfriend. At the time I thought this was messy and terrible. I cried about my decision for 3 months. I also told her my deepest, darkest secrets. The details of my childhood. I also thought that seemed messy and wrong. As it turns out I now believe those two factors are what brought us together. She wanted to win. She wanted me to choose her. She was also looking for a damaged person that would be easier to control. It's all so clear now. Sad. I feel like a fool.
Don’t worry about feeling like a fool. We all make mistakes, even me. No one is perfect. At least you have learned some important lessons. Some people never learn, so you’re a successful person from my point of view. You didn’t get badly burnt psychologically like some people have.
To err is human. To recognize one's mistakes allows one to admit them and rectify them. This is known as character.
Idc what people say most women are narcissist... because they don't fight with fist like we do
@@walkietalkie6679Most??? Maybe a lot have narcissistic traits. Being in a relationship with a woman who has narcissistic traits is Vastly Different than being in a relationship with a woman who has Narcissistic Personality DISORDER. These people have a pathological personality disorder that’s highly psychologically/emotionally damaging to their victims (intimate partners). Huge difference.
@@GregoryFludd I agree 👍
Yep! The narc I am married to got involved with a narc neighbor. I was working. I went to therapy, it was so devastating. I was told they are trying to drive me out of our purchased home and then ignore her as if she isn't there. Damn if going to let some tKe my home. She started snapping, no fuel. She moved. I am disgusted at the fool I am living with. I am getting my ducks in a row. Glad it was worth it to them because I will get my joy and freedom back.
This post really explained it. Thank you.
This is step by step EXACTLY what happened to me!!! Ended up pregnant so I was stuck and didnt realize what had happened until years later.
Entitlement and selfishness comes back and Reality Bites!
Peace
It’s almost as if Lisa Lablanc followed me around from Jan/April. ( minus the wife) I feel somehow vindicated as I really thought I was losing my mind. With Gratitude
No she followed me around last year from june to october
My husband told me my cousin was hitting on him and harrasing him.,we changed our phone numbers and went grey rock on her.. 20 yrs later saw her at funeral. My husband did not recognise her when she came over to greet him, he left her speechless. It was hilarious.
I thank God, literally, I have run from honey traps like this before they could get started. But, I have friends and family who have not...and you articulately described the results.
100% accurate.. exactly the experience I had .. Lisa is right and unbelievable in describing the experience
Unbelievably accurate
Ma’am ur a Godsend angel for me. Just broke up a 4 year old relationship with a covert female and have been very depressed and confused lately…but after watching a few videos of urs…it hits like a brick on my face and it’s scary to realise that I was being played the whole time. Thank u ma’am from the bottom of my heart ❤️ 🙏🏼.
I have been down that road. It has taken years to get over the divorce after she threw me in the trash and married a "friend" of mine.
Im sorry you had to go through that, I hope you recover from this experience
Same here. They arent married and i dont know if they will but i hope they do and i hope it ends in disaster. They are both liars
Lisa , I'm seriously thinking if I am in one. Folks Lisa by far is the top specialiast on this subject. every point covered here is spot on.
*Lise
Run!!!
Lisa Leblanc this was so well thought out. Each step was covered with such clarity. Nice work !!!
This happened to me. A female covert broke up with me to be with a married man that she met online. The mans wife and kids were devastated but no one cared. Not my ex, not him. Maybe they are perfect for one another i suppose since they are both probably narcissists
My ex narc husband left my 3 children and myself for his new supply. She is definitely a narcissist herself. She knew he was married for 19 years. He gave up custody of our 3 children and moved over 1200 miles away. Terrible.
@@ladiebugs awful, im sorry you went through that, some people have zero remorse for their actions!
Wow. It's like having a guide about how it really worked and developed in my case.
I fell for that shit. Several therapists have suggested that to me, that she manipulated me. Why did I let that happen? It's complex, but I've been coconstructing my sinking ship. The more I learn about female narcissistic behaviour the more I realise how stupid I've been. I went along through every turn with open eyes, but thinking that I must be wrong, that I have the wrong impression. That it's me projecting, that she doesn't know better... Her words never matched her actions. That made me so confused. Every fiber of my body screamed run... But yea, she had me addicted and instead of staying true to myself, I stayed, I got used to that shit and broke. For some reason I believed that we would eventually be able to have honest dialogues. But there is no honesty with narcissists because they are not honest to themselves and they don't belive that others ate either. So the world is constructed to their convenience everyday over again. One day the car is blue the other day its a bulldozer. If you point out that it was a car the other day, you get attacked for pointing out the difference. These people will never admit to anything accept when it's just fucking right in front of them, and even then they just laugh about it. They expect that you constantly take emotional responsibility for them, while they don't consider your perspective at all. They are not able to see that. Theory of mind is just not possible from their perspective. Gosh, I could go on and on...
How you managed to get out of that situation ?
Well described. That's exactly what they are
As usual, you are spot-on, Lise. One important point for your followers. The steps in this video can happen very quickly, over a matter of months...maybe weeks. Married for 40 years I met someone, also married, who rocked my world exactly as Lise describes here. The process feels exactly like a new love. It exploits all the vulnerabilities in your marriage. In addition, she had a little girl who i fell in love with. She exploited that relationship, making me feel like her sarrogate father. After 2 years of bliss, then a couple months of pulling away, I was ghosted. It's been 5 years now and I'm still hurting. She is now divorced, but I have no interest and learned a valuable life lesson.
Big big thank You ! Covert narcissist females - knowledge about them it's like "forbiden knowledge" in this time. You help me to understand what was/is going on in my 30-year marriage. I'm a shadow of a man which I was but Your video materials bring me hope for back to life. Thank You very, very much !
Christ, Lise, stop being so accurate and truthful! 🙂
Thank you so much for another eye opening video. "Well" wasted 8 years behind and Im ready to stop this madness. God blesd you
was talking to a woman last year who did all these things i thought she was really cool at first because she was basically mirroring me ,then i found out she was talking too a married man...i saw the text exchange between them...she was saying she was in love...i ghosted her and never spoke to her again
Lise, a fabulous summary of the psychodrama as it plays out (as I have sadly found out to my cost). I am a 71 year old man and think it's wonderful that you see things from the male perspective. I very much admire you, your delivery and your excellent work. Sincere thanks, Brian
Remarkably accurate, as if you were looking through a window at my relationship.
It’s the old adage if it’s too good to be true it usually is..
This is absolute gold. You have the best "take" on this on youtube-bare none.
Bar* none
This would be an intricate, brilliant scheme if anyone planned it out. But this is INSTINCTIVE for the narcissist. Lise, how in the world do covert narcissists all get wired to act this way?
Damn good question. It makes it even scarier that they're naturally good at it
This is exactly what happened to my husband. Now ex-husband. I wish them hell.
OMG the timing of this is too uncanny for the universe not to be aware! Married, yes. (separated for 8 months now). Been unsatisfied in the (sexless, biz relationship) marriage for a decade or more so looked for a side encounter (I know!). I fell head over heels in love and left my wife for the narc. I've been living rough in an apartment my ex and I had already bought to entirely gut and renovate (no hot water, no kitchen no gas etc - was a hard winter). I worked on the project and my regular job while I lived in it and my ex-wife amicably agreed to divorce when it's finished but remained married for logistical reasons. But sh*t got batsh*t craaaazy with the BPD/narc once she had me there and I found myself in an emotionally and even physically at times (her) abusive relationship but unable to walk away until I was discarded and hoovered several times. I was codependent until I woke up and saved myself. Only just last night, despite knowing what she was for some time now, I finally cut her off completely (blocked) after her recent hoover attempt. I'd been doing well and focusing on myself. My marriage was over anyway and I'm aware that what I did was completely unacceptable. But this woman is extremely alluring and extremely good at what she does! The future faking was amazing. It was the perfect storm. I wasn't aware of this disorder beforehand. It's been a learning experience and I've certainly gotten what I deserved multiple times over.
Yes, they are very good at what they do. It's almost as if they have sixth sense about it. I thought i had enough street smarts to keep from falling for such black magic but i wss a chump.
I do not want to hear that crap again about sexless marriage. I have heard it since I was 18 from married men. Never in my life I would listen.
Lise, the information in this video is helping me to understand part of my life. Thank you for posting great quality content, I hope tons of people affected by a narcicist spouse watch this, so they get encouraged to seek for profesional help. God bless you.
Outstanding video. You described an experience I had with a female narcissist years ago to the letter. I wish I saw this back then. Great video! 👍👌
Each & every point of yours is 💯/💯. These narcissistic ppl are mentally sick.
Thank you for this information. I very narrowly avoided starting a relationship with a narcissistic woman a year and a half ago. I was unfamiliar with narcissistic behavior, but I knew something was wrong, the rudeness, disrespect,deflecting, was all intentional. I was aware of the red flags and did not ignore them. As a Sigma INFJ, my intuition really saved me, and telling my sister everything for an outside perspective. Fortunately, walked away before anything went anywhere,and it still took a lot of healing from the trauma. Thanks to your video, know exactly what I avoided.
absolutely spot on! everything you've described. i want to cry
when I feel a slip/relapse into the what-if fantasies where I idealized her/Us, I come back to this video as a great refresher/reminder of what I went through - it reinforces my No Contact wall. thank you so much!
My question is how this differs from how a non-narcissistic woman would go about seducing a married man. It seems to me that there may not be many differences until after they have gotten what they wanted.
Non narcissistic woman would go about this the same way, women that grew up in toxic environment can only relate by manipulation, they enjoy the game process not the relationship itself or the person that they are trying to lure. Sometimes they ruin marriages for the sake of ruining, they didn’t plan to be with the person long term.
Non narcissistic women would not be this deliberate. They’d have moral apprehensions about pursuing a married man and will create boundaries. If anything happened between a married man and non narc, it would be more of a natural progression based on their organic (not manufactured) chemistry. A non narc woman won’t aim to seduce, but she’ll genuinely fall in love with him.
Yep, had that happen exactly how she described it. Much wiser for having had that happen to me.
SOUNDS GOOD TO ME!! if one is educated on narcissists, when they start playing up- we are already educated as to what they are- so...we can easily let them go! but we did have a hell of a time ! can you talk about this in a video?
Please do a video on men pursuing a married women and trying to be covert in front of the husband .
This has happened to Us and My Wife said he had a crush on Her and then went silent . This has caused my extreme depression to worsen .
It’s remarkable how accurate this is, and the way this script keeps playing out globally. The only plausible cause is that narcs are more common than it seemed some years ago. Anyway, your videos provide a crucial service. Thank you
My first hubby was seduced this way, but it started with triangulation, where she pretended to be my friend. My last boyfriend was taken the same way. I refused the triangulation, but she managed to do it anyway. Even though he admits I did nothing wrong, he never wants to see me again.
I suspect my wife targets married men because she is jealous of his wife, they are driven by envey.
Hi Lise! I'm a big fan of your RUclips channel and the insightful content you create. I wanted to suggest a topic that I think would be fascinating to explore: 'Female Covert Narcissist's Fragile Ego.' It's an often overlooked aspect of narcissism, and delving into the characteristics, behaviors, and challenges related to the fragile ego of female covert narcissists could provide valuable insights for your viewers. I believe it would be a thought-provoking and informative video. Thank you for considering it! Keep up the great work!"
This is very helpful.
Thank you.
What? This is exactly what happened!
Thank you Mother Mary for heroic purity and true love that shows us what real beauty looks like! Thank you for showing us how to treat our brothers in modesty and with genuine honesty!! Example taken!🙏🏻
Very accurate step by step explanation of my life
My gf and I love your vids Lise - we find the phycology fascinating.
Keep up the great content!
Thank you so much 🙏
Lisa Lebleau you are spot on how many you could not lay out my stupid life any better I’ve been completely sideswiped love bomb sex bomb discarded everything I’m learning a lot from you I enjoy the videos
Thank you for sharing your informative posts as they have helped me a lot. I managed an attempt of a poem about narcissism and I hope it is alright that I share it. So here it is.
The Claws of a Narcissist
By Craig Childers
Narcissism is becoming more frequently known,
A dysfunctional prefrontal cortex as science has shown,
The self objectivity is absent you see
And they are null and void of any empathy,
They exploit and coerce with triangulation,
And engage in emotional indoctrination
They have fantasies of unlimited success,
While keeping their targets in constant duress,
On top of the world in their delusional state,
Manipulating others is clearly their fate,
They will devalue you amongst your friends
From their relentless spite, there is no end
They expect all praise and admiration
As they indulge in their targets humiliation
They will over idealize with all their intent
With no introspection in a mind well bent
The narcissist does not make any mistakes
And in their exploits there are no brakes
There is no light in the mind of a narcissist
Just arrogance, darkness, and haughtiness
They exert circular reasoning and gas lighting
And straw man fallacy partners with belittling
They engage word salad in a manipulative tone
And recruit flying monkeys to keep their targets alone
So pompous, entitled, and grandiose,
But that is what the public wants to see
Control is destiny in their insecure mind
To your right and your left, you’ll find like kind
Their charm and charisma will mesmerize all
But failure’s fear can make them fall
And in the prefrontal cortex that science now knows
Are the claws of a narcissist that continue to glow
It would be nice to make it open for others to make revisions and make community poems ini a sense. Thanks again Lise.
Great poem!
@@Jess-kn8vl Thanks, and I appreciate you giiving it a read.
Very well done! 👏👏 Thank you for sharing🙏
I'm sorry you endured that horrific experience.
I'm an escaped survivor daughter of a female covert malignant narc birth monster. 👹
I witnessed this vile behavior of her targeting married or committed men while growing up🤮 along with being terrorized covertly my entire life. These monsters are MASTERS of destruction! I hope you have learned to give yourself grace and forgiveness in your healing journey. 🙏💚
Sending blessings, strength and continued healing vibes your way🙏💪💪💚💫
@@juliekeener9730 One thing it has done for me, has added a new dimension to those moments of privacy that I do get. The solice is much more.profound. Having to deal with it from a mother is an entirely different ball of wax, as the narcissist has full and complete control over someones entire youth, and the dependency as serious control factor. There is no longer lasting, worse experience, than having a parent that way. How can you un-condition yourself from an entire youth?
Excellent poem creatively depicting the narcissist. The Straw Man…..good one.
Thanks!
Thank you!
Mis Lise you agift to us because you have healed my wound after reading your article but I almost lost my beautiful wife after falling in love with a female convert
Another excellent presentation! Thank you.
Excellent explanation
At this point Mme. Leblanc, you might as well have a crystal ball 🎯.
Simply ASTOUNDING.
-Thanks for making this video.
it is possible this scenario aplies to a borderline too? or this video is only to Female Covert narcisists?
Thank you Mrs/Miss Leblanc very good of you to focus your show on men and the effects and abuse women N's put on men.
This is also true if the man isn't married. I have identified a few women like this. Thank you, @LiseLeblanc for your insightful and informative videos!
These steps are also the same when a female covert narcissist targets a married or unmarried woman on non binary person.
Totally. They run the same program even if you're single.
Thank you Dr. For what you are doing for men.
I absolutely hate mate poaching,it’s such a cowardly move.
My husband says 75 % of this is spot on as to his affair. Perhaps it’s also 100 in reality, I will never know. Thank you Lise for opening the eyes of so many men and also for partly opening women’s eyes to their own behavior. Most of us have some narcissistic patterns, and I was not at all aware of mine.
Thanks to Lise I just keep the gate locked all the time now except for grocery delivery. I don't answer the phone, and never go out. Just working out in my home gym and avoiding women at all cost. It's great. I'm the healthiest I've ever been, I'm debt free, and saving so much money. She's basically a gym coach and financial counselor disguised as a relationship expert.
This is so true, it happened to me my ex female narcissist. Did this to me when she fell for a taxi driver rugged to my face at the same time I’m very thankful she’s gone.
You literally just described my wife 😔. She did this to her young coworker, 15 years younger. His poor wife, they had only been married 2 years, was befriended by my wife and then betrayed by her.
I literally lived a lie for 15 years. I ignored every red flag and loved my wife. Stayed married so my kids would have a home. I’m by no means chopped liver or a weak man, but for my kids and future grandchildren🤞 I’ve stayed with her…. This is hard to hear.
Wow 😮. Very insightful.
My dad fell for this garbage when he was with his 2nd wife & had 3 little kids. This predator was 13 years younger than him. She lured him with sex since she had nothing else going for her. His 2nd wife (stepmother) didn’t like sex and this predator picked up on his need for it. His marriage to stepmother ended and our family was split apart. I was living with my grandparents & dad moved her in. She would moan like an old alley cat in heat and it would wake me up at night when I had school the next day. They lived together for about 3 years and my dad still hadn’t married her... so she mysteriously got pregnant after telling my dad she couldn’t have kids. Surprise!!! Surprise!!! She got him to marry her without a prenup and stealthily pushed his other children out of his life. Only she & their daughter benefitted and she is just waiting for him to die.
That sounds like my situation. They are terrible people.
How sad that his wife “didn’t like sex”. Sounds like a dealbreaker.
I'm a married man but I almost lost my wife because we started dis agreemens with my wife from no where I was emotional disconnected from my dear wife and three children I almost went mad I saw hope in her and later she abandoned me after silent treatment
Perfectly said! Thank you!
Sadly - the vast majority of these comments are from men who learned this painful, tragic lesson the hard way and have already been schooled/punked…. ergo the bulk of all the drama and costly, irreparable damage has already occurred. Guys! Please take heed! It’s quite literally impossible to overstate the value/ benefit AND importance of healing yourself so that this never happens to you (again). These predatory women are cruel, heartless, soulless creatures who lack a conscience. They pray on good men who are vulnerable bc they are lonely, have low self esteem, and weak & porous boundaries. Do the work, fellas - you are so SO worth it!
My ex who was either npd/bpd discarded me and immediately hooked up with a married guy, preceded to tell me about it, and then started asking for my help and advice when she felt bad about being a side piece. A totally abusive disgusting human
My narc ex hubby met a married woman at work....he started suddenly treating me terrible and distant. They were both totally infatuated with one another and love bombing to no end. This wasn't the 1st time he cheated so I was DONE. 17 years wasted on a idiot. A liar, abuser, manipulation to no end, and his family was the exact same way. He'd take women to his moms for getaways. I cut him totally out of my life. It never gets beter..let those people goooo
The problem was your husband.. not her. Why is it women keep coming on to channels specifically geared towards men and then complain about their husbands or make it about them? I don't get it. We come on here to read comments from other men ..not to hear more man bashing.
Sorry to hear, women need resilience training. Don’t get them back after they cheated, no second chances.
From personal experience - this is SPOT on - 100%
Very well put!
Yup! Nailed it.
The finest breakdown and deconstruction of the PC romantic world of the narcissist.
P.s. maybe this was an important factor in the Chris Watts case i.e. his extramarital girlfriend?