This bike is not only Made in USA but it's manufactured in Orange County, California. Definitely not one of the cheapest areas to operate a business in. Great job Electric Bike Company! Hope to see more American built bikes. Hoping that Detroit Bikes gets back in action.
The colors and options and finish on these are just fantastic for the price and value. It isn't what I am looking for as a performance oriented rider but if it was 27.5 at that price and I could make it my college colors, man why not! And it would definitely be attractive to anyone shopping for like an Electra, particularly women or shorter riders. Great review
I'm no fan of hub drives or pre-fab e-bikes but even I must respect the quality & reputation of Electric Bike Co e-bikes and from every thing I've seen or read they are very customer service oriented. Their post purchase support is virtual legend amongst e-bikers. If a hub drive is your preference Mxus is the way to go, so the Electric Bike Co are ahead of most e-bikes with hub motors on that point alone. They must have a clever controller to power that reasonably powerful motor and still get those kind of ranges from a 14ah battery. I still prefer building my own e-bikes, where for the same budgets as pre-fabs, I can have a mid-drive that (at the same power) can offer higher top speeds & better hill climbing. That's my preference but if a friend wanted a more frustration free experience with post purchase support I'd have no problem suggesting they look at Electric Bike Co.
I'll call this the first review in a very long time where you are really, truly pleased with this bicycle. If I had the coin, you can bet I'd get one of those, excellent product for the cost.
I'm really pleased with their pricing. The prices are comparable to e-bikes that aren't made in the U.S. and it comes with all that! Thank you for this video! If and when I get an e-bike this gives me a pretty good idea of what I'm going to get.
Absolutely agree what a great view and review. This video has changed my mind from buying another brands I'm going to go with this made-in-america bike😅
The store is in Huntington Beach, Ca on Brookhurst st. The store is small and the bikes are beautiful on display. You can take them for a test drive on the river beds for as far and long as you like. I did with my son. Totally fun. These are light weight powerful e bikes.
I am big guy and prefer Fat Tire e-bikes but this a very nice bike. The Price and Made in the USA angle makes this an excellent choice for a lot of entry-level buyers
The question is though, how "made in the USA (with global materials)" is it? What parts are "made in the USA?" Like the motor? Is it a USA made motor? I'm guessing not. Where are the batteries made? America does make some lithium batteries, but I think it's mostly Tesla. Who makes the hubs and forks and frame? Is the frame made in the US with imported aluminum? I really dislike the ambiguity of something "made in the USA" Further, you would be surprised how little of something needs to be made in the USA to have that stamp on it. The American manufactuer only needs to "add" a certain value (and it's not that high) to magically turn it into "made in the USA"
If ambiguity is the question there’s the fact that most of America’s steel and aluminum is exported to China to make products that are then shipped here to sell, so are they really China made if they used American metals? 😁
In Oct 2021, I received a Ride1Up 500 ST. Battery was made in 2020 so I received a battery a year old. It was an awful ebike and took forever to get rid of it. EBC will be my next ebike purchase they are doing it right. Great review.
I'm all for locally produced product. Yes, you can buy it cheaper elsewhere. However, if people really want to see more locally produced products you need to invest in the companies doing it. Think less of overpaying for something and more paying a bit extra to invest in your local economy.
Wow that’s the best e bike I have ever seen I like it better than some high end mountain e bikes the one you got reminds me of European commuter bikes like in Amsterdam or Copenhagen classy
Spanninga is a dutch brand,they have all kind of bike lights. Union is also a Dutch brand lol. Made in 🇺🇸 whit all kind of Dutch brands 😋 It also looks alot like the bikes here in the Netherlands
Ya i'm honestly shocked at what your'e getting here for the price. Like... 'Dude if i were going to get a ne-bike THIS is what I'd get. Yes i generally want to tinker, but c'mon for a little urban buzzaround? Hello yes. I love it.
when they say 1000w "peak". that means its a 500w nominal hub motor with a 21amp controller. and you will only get 1000w for a short period of time on a fully charged battery
Very happy to hear about an e-bike built made designed in the USA. My current bike is a Yamaha FJR 1300 but that's an ICE. Know if this ebike has expandable capability in range and speed increases?
I'm an Electra fan and have had three. Still use my 7D Cruiser, But in this case it looks Apples and Oranges and the Electric Bike Co bike looks like a far better build and deal. Not counting the the much larger motor Electra has manual disks vs Hydraulic and those levers may be acceptable on a $350 bike are not acceptable on a $1600 bike
The quality is excellent (I go past their store in Newport Beach, CA from time to time and stopped once to look at the bikes). However, notice "globally sourced" on the box. I'm almost certain the MXUS motor, aluminum frame and many other parts are made in China. You're able to put "Made in America" on the product based on the amount of value added, which may be enough by assembling the bike here.
That was exactly the point I was going to make. Globally sourced means imported. Clearly assembled in the USA and painted if you choose that option. Maybe the frame comes in a couple of colours from the factory in Asia and then they prep and respray the frame if you choose a different colour option. The packaging is likely manufactured in the USA and it sounds like the wheels are also laced in the USA in addition to the overall assembly of the bike. I am in no way knocking what they are doing but depending on US import charges and tariffs I guess you could pay a small premium for US assembly. In Europe the EU puts tariffs on complete ebikes from China which I think is 80% so a $300 ebike (factory door price) from China becomes a $540 ebike plus any additional taxes on top etc. So you get a lot of assembly plants in Europe of basically Chinese made parts this just feels like the US version of the same situation. In Europe many ebikes are assembled outside China to avoid tariffs like Cambodia, Vietnam etc. Since the UK has left the EU we have kept the EU tariffs but now they are paid into our own exchequer rather than into the EU and its a significant amount of money. I suppose you can basically make a judgement what is better for the US economy, tariffs being paid into government or assembly plants etc. Saying that I don't know if Biden continued the tariffs that Trump instigated and how they work in the US.
@@bonzobanana1 good points but I think you should also factor in that a good percent if not majority of people buying a bike like this have zero wrenching and tech skills. I have a Ride1Up Roadster (fantastic by the way!) And am on the owner message board. Even the simplest tasks like attaching the seat the right way have many flummoxed and paying $200 to local bike shop to assemble and tune. Getting a bike fully tuned and assembled in this condition is easily worth a premium to lots of new riders!
Yeah, I was wondering if any of the individual parts were actually manufactured in the US. In my opinion, if you want to claim "made in the US," you should have to start with raw materials, not finished parts you just assemble. There are some high-end bike companies like enve, guerilla gravity, and I9 that actually make bike parts here in the US, but it would still be impossible at the moment to truly manufacture a bike solely in the US. If a company isn't calling out exactly which part they made in the US (frame, rims, hubs, etc) they likely aren't actually made in the US. I work for a bike company that builds wheels here in the US. I have built a bunch myself. Even though the hub was manufactured here in the US and the rims are designed in house, the rims and spokes are manufactured in Taiwan, so I wouldn't slap a "made in the US". sticker on it even if we likely could under law.
@@TheWrigle You sound very decent and honourable but business typically doesn't follow such ethics. A huge amount of German products are actually from the far east and merely reboxed in Germany to claim 'Made in Germany' in what they call the 'last significant process rule' i.e. the last place where any processing of a product is done can claim to have manufactured the item. It's all a bit of a farce so you have to be a little sceptical of all claims. I also question 'Designed in the USA' when the frame is pretty much designed and tested in Asia. You see this everywhere across products from many different countries be it Germany, Italy, France, UK etc. However that said its still great to have local assembly in the USA providing jobs etc and when Chinese products become too expensive perhaps more of the product will be made in the USA.
I agree, but there are rules that permit this practice. I asked a Bosch higher up once about their motors which are "made in Germany" about the components. He said they were out sourced, so the practice is pervasive.@@TheWrigle
The handlebars have a lot of room for adding things, like a mirror, or dash cam. I like that it is made in the USA, and it is a good looking bike. What other models do you have?
@@tarstarkusz AGREED- the chainring is huge- must be 48T or 52T, if not more? They do that so you can still pedal at a reasonable cadence along with the motor when traveling at speed. But when the battery dies, that 18T in back is going to be rough gearing for pedaling. I wouldn't get the single speed unless you live in an area thats 100% flat
Are your models actually fat bikes or more a mountain bike style tire? In all the pics I can find they don't look that big. Not 4" wide. I have a pedal assist mountain bike. and I haven't tried a fat bike but have been thinking of it. I should pop into my local shop and ask about test drives. I know they do carry some E-bikes, but I forget what brand. Signature, or something like that, I forget. I found it. It's SPECILIZED. I'll have to look them up, before I forget again.
This may seem pedantic, but "built in the USA" is not the same as "made in the USA". The latter is a federally regulated term meaning all or virtually all of the product is made in the U.S. while the former just means it was put together to some extent in the U.S., which I suppose is better than nothing, but probably 95+% of the components are made in Asia.
Which regulation states that? Because my Craftsman riding mower says “made in USA - using Global components” There are lots and lots of globally sourced parts on it, yet it legally qualifies as made in the USA. Furthermore, I know someone that works in manufacturing at a plant that proudly touts “made in USA” and the wood they use if from outside the US and the fasteners are from China. I believe there is a certain percentage of processing that make it considered Made in the US. I would be surprised if there were a regulation that said all or virtually all of a product must be from US sourced supplies.
That's quite pricey, but quite a bit less then I thought. As an aside, I've joined the ranks of E-bike people. Put a TSDZ2 mid-drive on the Aluminum Comp (The one I bought after the Finiss got nicked, lol). I want those cutoff-equipped hydraulic brakes, the Schwinn's brakes are having a time of stopping from 15mph over and over again... That said, It makes a fun E-MTB. (for those curious for a comparison, Battery is also 48v, but only 10AH. was 190, motor was 350, and I bought a kickstand for 15 because the stock kickstand mount was coopted for the motor's torque arm in a setup janky enough that Kev would likely not want to touch it, lol. oh and one of those 'micky mouse' shimano shifters for another 12 since the EZFires where replaced and an Ibera large frame bag which turns out to be an exact fit for the triangle to put the battery. Plus a bottom bracket tool and a breaker bar. I'm like 600 and change in. As an aside. I understand why Kevin likes those 1X conversion cranks that let you use your existing square-taper bracket. God that was miserable, and I learned the hard way that it wasn't a sealed cartridge bearing setup, I've still got grease stains on the jeans from fighting it....)
You need to test this somewhere that is actually hilly. Not necessarily San Francisco hilly, but more hilly like Omaha. Up and down, up and down. It will humble any ebike.
Gas bike? Almost built one instead of E-converting the Al Comp. They're not a bad option if you want to save some money and don't mind the noise (and live in an area where they're not going to get pulled over all the time, that too. local yokels must've been doing that, because I stopped seeing them around here, hence going electric).
it says the motor is 1000w "peak"- which in reality is probably a 500w nominal hub motor with a 21 amp controller. it probably cant do much more than 25mph unless you are going downhill. 500w hubs dont generally get up to 28mph
Detroit bikes makes an e-sparrow, partly made in the USA. Personally I don’t care about where bikes are made, more just an interesting fact than anything else.
@@KevCentral I believe the sparrow line has frames made in Taiwan. Which yeah that’s the core of the bike, but designed and assembled in the USA. I’m sure the electric bike co has many components made overseas such as the batteries, motor and more.
That doesn't seem a bad price really, considering if this bike was made by riese and Muller it would be costing over 7k, and that's British pounds not US dollars, so based on that it does seem good value.
The battery charger is labeled “Made in China.” Not sure if the battery is made in the USA based on the charger even if it says globally sourced materials. Maybe this bike is more like the new Craftsman - assembled in the USA.
@@singletona082 one thing I'd point out is the 1000w "peak" motor spec is misleading, its probably a 500w nominal motor with a 21amp controller. You will only be getting 1000w for a short period of time when the battery is fully charged.
@@chriskopec1858 ebike batteries are often $400+. depends on voltage, amp hour capacity, cell quality. If it is a proprietary battery that only fits this specific bike, then you can only buy a replacement from this particular manufacturer. Depending on the battery chemistry you should get 500-800 + charge cycles before the battery degrades to 80% capacity
1000w max wattage is easily possible. If the controller is allowing a maximum of 20a then 54.6v x 20a = 1092w. And that would in fact be the maximum. Nominal would be 48v x 20a = 960w, even that would be "close enough" for most marketing departments to call it 1000w nominal. The average of the maximum and nominal is 1026w. Mininum wattage assuming a 42.9v low voltage cut off would be 858w, so the average between maximum and minimum wattage would be 975w. 20a from the controller is well within reason. Bafang BBS02B mid drive motors are limited to a max of 25a and BBSHD mid drive motors (from most vendors ) start at 30a abd can be programed for a higher current limit. This is just an example of how 1000w max isn't a far fetched fantasy. It's just a matter of what the controllers current limit is set to.
Impressive customization options, interesting bike and business, deceptive marketing. There's nothing wrong with being "assembled in USA," but if you're going to claim "made in" you'd better be talking about a majority of the labor AND parts domestic. The frames are imports, likely almost everything else as well. That's not surprising and a locally-based assembly still has many advantages, but I am disappointed to see them misleading folks.
"peak" wattage spec for the motor is misleading. 1000w "peak" == 500w hub motor with a 21 amp controller. You only get that "peak" wattage with a full charged battery for a short period of time. The motor is unbranded generic chinese. I'd feel a lot better about it if it was a Bafang
Hey Kev, I watch a lot of your content. Sadly most of the material you review is not available to me because I live in Canada. Do you know of an e bike company that would ship to me? I just don’t want a 250w, 36v pile of crap, which is all we are being offered here. Canada really does not care about climate change. The oil industry here wants to keep us in cars.
@@KevCentral thanks Kev. Appreciate you taking the time to reply. I actually bought a Hyper e bike City a few weeks ago and although I like it, it’s proving a bit fragile. So much so, that I’m considering returning it and buying something a bit better quality. Keep up the good work😁👍🏻
That would be my guess. Typically if the frame were made in the US they would call out where, like Guerilla gravity frames made in Colorado, or I9 hubs made in Asheville NC. Nobody manufactures ebike motors or batteries in the US, and there aren't any companies extruding aluminum rims here I the states. If the battery is from China, the frame likely is as well.
Yeah, but the frame, tires, motor, battery, and just about everything else in the bike came from either China, Japan, or Taiwan. Stop with the made in USA bullcrap. It was designed in the USA, parts made in Asia, and then assembled in the US. The US Government makes it just about impossible to make things here anymore. Even freaking Petroleum under Brandon.
Imma keep this a buck 50, these bikes are super cheap to make and super over priced to buy. The bangle brakes are terrible and the batteries are trash. Their R,C, and S 7 series brakes are way better. Their motors are lower than advertised. The bolts on these bikes are super easy to strip and the fact that they use zipties for everything is gross. The fenders are always warped and the fender stays never stay straight. Over all your money is better placed at a different company.
@@jckdnls9292 It's nonetheless true and does address those that balk at the price of some of them. There are some budget options. Why is it so bad that I point that out to you or whomsoever? If you don't care maybe someone else does. It's nice that the channel has pointed some out. That's all I'm saying. I don't see why this is problematic for you. I myself am a little alienated by the prices of many of these e-bikes. I think my response was fine and reasonable. Have an okay day...
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This bike is not only Made in USA but it's manufactured in Orange County, California. Definitely not one of the cheapest areas to operate a business in. Great job Electric Bike Company! Hope to see more American built bikes. Hoping that Detroit Bikes gets back in action.
Assembled, not manufactured. The frame is from overseas as are many/most of the other components. Looks like a solid product nonetheless.
@@molybdnum It still adds a decent amount of US labor and support to the product. I good step in the right direction.
The colors and options and finish on these are just fantastic for the price and value. It isn't what I am looking for as a performance oriented rider but if it was 27.5 at that price and I could make it my college colors, man why not! And it would definitely be attractive to anyone shopping for like an Electra, particularly women or shorter riders. Great review
Glad you were able to check this company out - I think they look great and have heard others speak well of them.
Thanks Kev for this great review. Makes me wanna get one.
I'm no fan of hub drives or pre-fab e-bikes but even I must respect the quality & reputation of Electric Bike Co e-bikes and from every thing I've seen or read they are very customer service oriented. Their post purchase support is virtual legend amongst e-bikers. If a hub drive is your preference Mxus is the way to go, so the Electric Bike Co are ahead of most e-bikes with hub motors on that point alone. They must have a clever controller to power that reasonably powerful motor and still get those kind of ranges from a 14ah battery.
I still prefer building my own e-bikes, where for the same budgets as pre-fabs, I can have a mid-drive that (at the same power) can offer higher top speeds & better hill climbing. That's my preference but if a friend wanted a more frustration free experience with post purchase support I'd have no problem suggesting they look at Electric Bike Co.
I'll call this the first review in a very long time where you are really, truly pleased with this bicycle. If I had the coin, you can bet I'd get one of those, excellent product for the cost.
I was feeling like $4000 and then you told me the price .... keep this up and you will take over the world boyz
Honest - in-depth - informative- knowledgeable review - nice job
Great review. I was honestly expecting a made in USA bike to me over 2k even in base form.
I think put together in the USA is a better choice of words because Mxus Motors are made in China.
I RENTED ONE AT MISSION BEACH CA.. IT WAS THE MOST COMFORTABLE AND MOST INPIRING RIDE I EVER RODE ON A BIKE! I'M GOING TO BUY ONE
Great Video. Lots of good information. We just ordered a Model E & R with all of the bells and whistles. Buy USA!
Good product and appears well made. Easy to use.
I'm really pleased with their pricing. The prices are comparable to e-bikes that aren't made in the U.S. and it comes with all that! Thank you for this video! If and when I get an e-bike this gives me a pretty good idea of what I'm going to get.
Absolutely agree what a great view and review. This video has changed my mind from buying another brands I'm going to go with this made-in-america bike😅
The store is in Huntington Beach, Ca on Brookhurst st. The store is small and the bikes are beautiful on display. You can take them for a test drive on the river beds for as far and long as you like. I did with my son. Totally fun. These are light weight powerful e bikes.
wow. That is impressive. Possibly the best e bike I've seen.
Summer is on the way this was right in time
NICELY DONE!
I am big guy and prefer Fat Tire e-bikes but this a very nice bike. The Price and Made in the USA angle makes this an excellent choice for a lot of entry-level buyers
The question is though, how "made in the USA (with global materials)" is it? What parts are "made in the USA?" Like the motor? Is it a USA made motor? I'm guessing not. Where are the batteries made? America does make some lithium batteries, but I think it's mostly Tesla. Who makes the hubs and forks and frame? Is the frame made in the US with imported aluminum? I really dislike the ambiguity of something "made in the USA"
Further, you would be surprised how little of something needs to be made in the USA to have that stamp on it. The American manufactuer only needs to "add" a certain value (and it's not that high) to magically turn it into "made in the USA"
If ambiguity is the question there’s the fact that most of America’s steel and aluminum is exported to China to make products that are then shipped here to sell, so are they really China made if they used American metals? 😁
In Oct 2021, I received a Ride1Up 500 ST. Battery was made in 2020 so I received a battery a year old. It was an awful ebike and took forever to get rid of it. EBC will be my next ebike purchase they are doing it right. Great review.
I'm all for locally produced product. Yes, you can buy it cheaper elsewhere. However, if people really want to see more locally produced products you need to invest in the companies doing it. Think less of overpaying for something and more paying a bit extra to invest in your local economy.
It''s good to see bikes made in the USA. Maybe more manufactures will get into USA Made.
chinese components assembled in the USA
Very helpful video. Thank you.
Honestly really like it. If I was in the market for one this would be what I went for.
Not bad at first look. If customer service is good this one is bound to be popular.
Wow that’s the best e bike I have ever seen I like it better than some high end mountain e bikes the one you got reminds me of European commuter bikes like in Amsterdam or Copenhagen classy
You dang straight MERIKA MEARIKA land of the braves 👍 seriously that's a nice looking bike.
Honestly that price isnt bad. Good bikes are expensive and good ebikes even more so.
Good review as always!
Spanninga is a dutch brand,they have all kind of bike lights.
Union is also a Dutch brand lol.
Made in 🇺🇸 whit all kind of Dutch brands 😋
It also looks alot like the bikes here in the Netherlands
Made in the USA is just a marketing term, there is no way for us to know for sure where everything comes from.
I was actually expecting it to be a bit more expensive, seems like a legit value.
Ya i'm honestly shocked at what your'e getting here for the price. Like...
'Dude if i were going to get a ne-bike THIS is what I'd get. Yes i generally want to tinker, but c'mon for a little urban buzzaround? Hello yes. I love it.
when they say 1000w "peak". that means its a 500w nominal hub motor with a 21amp controller. and you will only get 1000w for a short period of time on a fully charged battery
Very happy to hear about an e-bike built made designed in the USA. My current bike is a Yamaha FJR 1300 but that's an ICE. Know if this ebike has expandable capability in range and speed increases?
This thing is definitely competitive with the $1,599 Electra Cruiser go+ which is also single speed
That other bike only has a 250 W motor and smaller battery, not even close.
I'm an Electra fan and have had three. Still use my 7D Cruiser, But in this case it looks Apples and Oranges and the Electric Bike Co bike looks like a far better build and deal. Not counting the the much larger motor Electra has manual disks vs Hydraulic and those levers may be acceptable on a $350 bike are not acceptable on a $1600 bike
I really like that they didn’t fool with a shock fork. For me the bars look a little too wide.
It turns out the wider bars help mitigate the control loss from the back sweep
Put it in watch later, can’t wait
I like the video review it's good to know that there's a ebike made in the USA . I'm thinking about it Jeff R
The quality is excellent (I go past their store in Newport Beach, CA from time to time and stopped once to look at the bikes). However, notice "globally sourced" on the box. I'm almost certain the MXUS motor, aluminum frame and many other parts are made in China. You're able to put "Made in America" on the product based on the amount of value added, which may be enough by assembling the bike here.
That was exactly the point I was going to make. Globally sourced means imported. Clearly assembled in the USA and painted if you choose that option. Maybe the frame comes in a couple of colours from the factory in Asia and then they prep and respray the frame if you choose a different colour option. The packaging is likely manufactured in the USA and it sounds like the wheels are also laced in the USA in addition to the overall assembly of the bike. I am in no way knocking what they are doing but depending on US import charges and tariffs I guess you could pay a small premium for US assembly. In Europe the EU puts tariffs on complete ebikes from China which I think is 80% so a $300 ebike (factory door price) from China becomes a $540 ebike plus any additional taxes on top etc. So you get a lot of assembly plants in Europe of basically Chinese made parts this just feels like the US version of the same situation. In Europe many ebikes are assembled outside China to avoid tariffs like Cambodia, Vietnam etc.
Since the UK has left the EU we have kept the EU tariffs but now they are paid into our own exchequer rather than into the EU and its a significant amount of money. I suppose you can basically make a judgement what is better for the US economy, tariffs being paid into government or assembly plants etc. Saying that I don't know if Biden continued the tariffs that Trump instigated and how they work in the US.
@@bonzobanana1 good points but I think you should also factor in that a good percent if not majority of people buying a bike like this have zero wrenching and tech skills. I have a Ride1Up Roadster (fantastic by the way!) And am on the owner message board. Even the simplest tasks like attaching the seat the right way have many flummoxed and paying $200 to local bike shop to assemble and tune. Getting a bike fully tuned and assembled in this condition is easily worth a premium to lots of new riders!
Yeah, I was wondering if any of the individual parts were actually manufactured in the US. In my opinion, if you want to claim "made in the US," you should have to start with raw materials, not finished parts you just assemble. There are some high-end bike companies like enve, guerilla gravity, and I9 that actually make bike parts here in the US, but it would still be impossible at the moment to truly manufacture a bike solely in the US. If a company isn't calling out exactly which part they made in the US (frame, rims, hubs, etc) they likely aren't actually made in the US. I work for a bike company that builds wheels here in the US. I have built a bunch myself. Even though the hub was manufactured here in the US and the rims are designed in house, the rims and spokes are manufactured in Taiwan, so I wouldn't slap a "made in the US". sticker on it even if we likely could under law.
@@TheWrigle You sound very decent and honourable but business typically doesn't follow such ethics. A huge amount of German products are actually from the far east and merely reboxed in Germany to claim 'Made in Germany' in what they call the 'last significant process rule' i.e. the last place where any processing of a product is done can claim to have manufactured the item. It's all a bit of a farce so you have to be a little sceptical of all claims. I also question 'Designed in the USA' when the frame is pretty much designed and tested in Asia. You see this everywhere across products from many different countries be it Germany, Italy, France, UK etc. However that said its still great to have local assembly in the USA providing jobs etc and when Chinese products become too expensive perhaps more of the product will be made in the USA.
I agree, but there are rules that permit this practice. I asked a Bosch higher up once about their motors which are "made in Germany" about the components. He said they were out sourced, so the practice is pervasive.@@TheWrigle
thanks Kev, i like it
You should do a comparison with a European (or Dutch) bike like the Van Moof
The handlebars have a lot of room for adding things, like a mirror, or dash cam. I like that it is made in the USA, and it is a good looking bike. What other models do you have?
I thought it was an R-flat as a part of an H-minor scale
Need this!
Looks like a nice bike. But it might be tough to pedal when you run out of juice.
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56 pounds with battery
@@EBikeBuilder_ I was also thinking of that huge ratio front to back.
@@tarstarkusz AGREED- the chainring is huge- must be 48T or 52T, if not more? They do that so you can still pedal at a reasonable cadence along with the motor when traveling at speed. But when the battery dies, that 18T in back is going to be rough gearing for pedaling. I wouldn't get the single speed unless you live in an area thats 100% flat
Looks like a genocide supporter
How much to replace battery?
I wonder if I can get that sticker for Canada
Are your models actually fat bikes or more a mountain bike style tire? In all the pics I can find they don't look that big. Not 4" wide. I have a pedal assist mountain bike. and I haven't tried a fat bike but have been thinking of it. I should pop into my local shop and ask about test drives. I know they do carry some E-bikes, but I forget what brand. Signature, or something like that, I forget. I found it. It's SPECILIZED. I'll have to look them up, before I forget again.
This is an e bike I will think I might purchase.
Coupon code in the description for $50 off 👍🏼
Not my cup of tea, but specs look decent and I am glad it seems well made.
This may seem pedantic, but "built in the USA" is not the same as "made in the USA". The latter is a federally regulated term meaning all or virtually all of the product is made in the U.S. while the former just means it was put together to some extent in the U.S., which I suppose is better than nothing, but probably 95+% of the components are made in Asia.
Which regulation states that? Because my Craftsman riding mower says “made in USA - using Global components” There are lots and lots of globally sourced parts on it, yet it legally qualifies as made in the USA. Furthermore, I know someone that works in manufacturing at a plant that proudly touts “made in USA” and the wood they use if from outside the US and the fasteners are from China. I believe there is a certain percentage of processing that make it considered Made in the US. I would be surprised if there were a regulation that said all or virtually all of a product must be from US sourced supplies.
electric bike components are not made in USA, lol. It's merely assembled in USA.
That's quite pricey, but quite a bit less then I thought.
As an aside, I've joined the ranks of E-bike people. Put a TSDZ2 mid-drive on the Aluminum Comp (The one I bought after the Finiss got nicked, lol). I want those cutoff-equipped hydraulic brakes, the Schwinn's brakes are having a time of stopping from 15mph over and over again... That said, It makes a fun E-MTB.
(for those curious for a comparison, Battery is also 48v, but only 10AH. was 190, motor was 350, and I bought a kickstand for 15 because the stock kickstand mount was coopted for the motor's torque arm in a setup janky enough that Kev would likely not want to touch it, lol. oh and one of those 'micky mouse' shimano shifters for another 12 since the EZFires where replaced and an Ibera large frame bag which turns out to be an exact fit for the triangle to put the battery. Plus a bottom bracket tool and a breaker bar. I'm like 600 and change in. As an aside. I understand why Kevin likes those 1X conversion cranks that let you use your existing square-taper bracket. God that was miserable, and I learned the hard way that it wasn't a sealed cartridge bearing setup, I've still got grease stains on the jeans from fighting it....)
Congrats on the new mid-drive
Fenders and a back rack for me. Only concern is, with no gears how easy is it to pedal home with a dead battery?
That’s an issue on many eBikes due to their weight; especially for single speed versions. There is a 7-speed variant of this bike
bike weight with battery is 56 lbs. Hopefully you are pedaling home down a hill.
You need to test this somewhere that is actually hilly. Not necessarily San Francisco hilly, but more hilly like Omaha. Up and down, up and down. It will humble any ebike.
I’m in north Alabama. We have plenty of hills
Nice bike. Although I'm still not into E-Bikes. Maybe someday...but for now it's G-bike for me.
Gas bike? Almost built one instead of E-converting the Al Comp. They're not a bad option if you want to save some money and don't mind the noise (and live in an area where they're not going to get pulled over all the time, that too. local yokels must've been doing that, because I stopped seeing them around here, hence going electric).
Kev, note that 'built in the USA' is not the same as 'made in the USA'.
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Nice bike but I'd like to see a little better speeds on the throttle response like maybe 28 miles an hour with the throttle but I do like the bike ❤️
Most throttle bikes are limited to 20mph in throttle only mode
@@KevCentral I like the weight capacity that's awesome does it say what Gage spokes are on that bike
it says the motor is 1000w "peak"- which in reality is probably a 500w nominal hub motor with a 21 amp controller. it probably cant do much more than 25mph unless you are going downhill. 500w hubs dont generally get up to 28mph
Detroit bikes makes an e-sparrow, partly made in the USA. Personally I don’t care about where bikes are made, more just an interesting fact than anything else.
I think Detroit Bikes only claims 🇺🇸 affiliation on their models that have US in the name.
@@KevCentral I believe the sparrow line has frames made in Taiwan. Which yeah that’s the core of the bike, but designed and assembled in the USA. I’m sure the electric bike co has many components made overseas such as the batteries, motor and more.
Doesn't it make more sense to use releasable zip tie instead of including a tool for a single use?
No, because I like that little tool 😁
@@KevCentral They are pretty handy little things.
I wish I was more trail focused
That doesn't seem a bad price really, considering if this bike was made by riese and Muller it would be costing over 7k, and that's British pounds not US dollars, so based on that it does seem good value.
Worksman bicycle next
I would love to get my hands on a custom Workman KevCentral themed bike 🤞🏻
The battery charger is labeled “Made in China.” Not sure if the battery is made in the USA based on the charger even if it says globally sourced materials. Maybe this bike is more like the new Craftsman - assembled in the USA.
If a company isn't calling out exactly which parts are manufactured in the US, then likely none of it is. Just assembled here.
Closer to $3000.00 with any bells and whistles and baskets.
Still a good value in my eyes given what your'e getting.
@@singletona082 maybe…
@@singletona082 one thing I'd point out is the 1000w "peak" motor spec is misleading, its probably a 500w nominal motor with a 21amp controller. You will only be getting 1000w for a short period of time when the battery is fully charged.
Kev, would you call this bike a pedal forward design?
I don’t know where the exact line is that determines the changeover, but it’s closer than not
This is like a Porsche the way everything is presented (if Porsches were made in the us)
Did you see where a cargo ship full of Porsche’s caught on fire and sank yesterday?
I did. That was incredibly unfortunate 😩
Battery - what price ?
I haven’t looked at replacement battery prices. I usually have my batteries rebuilt with new cells
@@KevCentral how much is rebuild one
I haven’t haven’t had a need to have this new battery rebuilt. Batteries usually last me quite a while before they need replacing
@@chriskopec1858 ebike batteries are often $400+. depends on voltage, amp hour capacity, cell quality. If it is a proprietary battery that only fits this specific bike, then you can only buy a replacement from this particular manufacturer. Depending on the battery chemistry you should get 500-800 + charge cycles before the battery degrades to 80% capacity
Prices have increased.
would ride this
It looks like Betsy Ross designed it.
1000w max wattage is easily possible. If the controller is allowing a maximum of 20a then 54.6v x 20a = 1092w. And that would in fact be the maximum. Nominal would be 48v x 20a = 960w, even that would be "close enough" for most marketing departments to call it 1000w nominal. The average of the maximum and nominal is 1026w. Mininum wattage assuming a 42.9v low voltage cut off would be 858w, so the average between maximum and minimum wattage would be 975w. 20a from the controller is well within reason.
Bafang BBS02B mid drive motors are limited to a max of 25a and BBSHD mid drive motors (from most vendors ) start at 30a abd can be programed for a higher current limit.
This is just an example of how 1000w max isn't a far fetched fantasy. It's just a matter of what the controllers current limit is set to.
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10:08 Made in China
That’s the charger, not the bike
Impressive customization options, interesting bike and business, deceptive marketing. There's nothing wrong with being "assembled in USA," but if you're going to claim "made in" you'd better be talking about a majority of the labor AND parts domestic. The frames are imports, likely almost everything else as well. That's not surprising and a locally-based assembly still has many advantages, but I am disappointed to see them misleading folks.
I love the video, I love all your videos, but this bike is not for me. See ya on the next video
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Would far rather add an extra $1000 and get a vanmoof V.
Isn’t that bike only a concept at this point? I haven’t seen any actual release dates
"peak" wattage spec for the motor is misleading. 1000w "peak" == 500w hub motor with a 21 amp controller. You only get that "peak" wattage with a full charged battery for a short period of time. The motor is unbranded generic chinese. I'd feel a lot better about it if it was a Bafang
Thanks for sharing
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I love that it is American made, and exudes quality, but the 'styling' is just not for me.
Fair. I like the looks best without the basket, but if it had a top tube it would really fit the 50s Hot Rod look I think it’s so close to pulling off
Put it in watch later, can’t reality
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Hey Kev, I watch a lot of your content. Sadly most of the material you review is not available to me because I live in Canada.
Do you know of an e bike company that would ship to me? I just don’t want a 250w, 36v pile of crap, which is all we are being offered here. Canada really does not care about climate change. The oil industry here wants to keep us in cars.
I’ve never thought about what the 🇺🇸 ➡️🇨🇦disparity. I do know that Hyper sells some bikes up there that are better than our big box store Hypers
@@KevCentral thanks Kev. Appreciate you taking the time to reply. I actually bought a Hyper e bike City a few weeks ago and although I like it, it’s proving a bit fragile. So much so, that I’m considering returning it and buying something a bit better quality.
Keep up the good work😁👍🏻
Designed and assembled in the USA, parts from, let me guess, China?
ebike motors and batteries are not manufactured in the USA. It's mostly china
That would be my guess. Typically if the frame were made in the US they would call out where, like Guerilla gravity frames made in Colorado, or I9 hubs made in Asheville NC. Nobody manufactures ebike motors or batteries in the US, and there aren't any companies extruding aluminum rims here I the states. If the battery is from China, the frame likely is as well.
stinking charger is made in china!!
Yeah, but the frame, tires, motor, battery, and just about everything else in the bike came from either China, Japan, or Taiwan.
Stop with the made in USA bullcrap. It was designed in the USA, parts made in Asia, and then assembled in the US.
The US Government makes it just about impossible to make things here anymore. Even freaking Petroleum under Brandon.
Imma keep this a buck 50, these bikes are super cheap to make and super over priced to buy. The bangle brakes are terrible and the batteries are trash. Their R,C, and S 7 series brakes are way better. Their motors are lower than advertised. The bolts on these bikes are super easy to strip and the fact that they use zipties for everything is gross. The fenders are always warped and the fender stays never stay straight. Over all your money is better placed at a different company.
For $1700 I can buy a used car... wtf...
better off spending 400$ on a 52v 20ah battery, 450$ on a bafang bbs02 750w mid drive, put it on any bike of your choice.
Walmart has some $500 ones...
this channel has featured...
@@michaelkulman7095 thats not the topic at hand Einstein
@@jckdnls9292 It's nonetheless true and does address those that balk at the price of some of them. There are some budget options. Why is it so bad that I point that out to you or whomsoever? If you don't care maybe someone else does. It's nice that the channel has pointed some out. That's all I'm saying. I don't see why this is problematic for you. I myself am a little alienated by the prices of many of these e-bikes. I think my response was fine and reasonable.
Have an okay day...