How to Make Your Electric Bike More Comfortable
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- Опубликовано: 4 мар 2020
- In this video we will go over some different details on what makes an electric bike more comfortable for a particular person as well as ways to potentially improve an ebike that you may already own. We hope you enjoy and please feel free to reach out with any questions or concerns!
If you're interested in looking into more comfort ebikes, feel free to check out the link below: propelbikes.com/product-categ...
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1:30 Stem/riding position
4:20 Saddles
8:10 Handlebars
9:40 Grips
12:55 Seat post
14:30 Rear suspension
15:22 Tires
17:00 Pedals
24:00 More on handlebars
Check out different accessories here: propelbikes.com/product-categ...
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Thudbuster LT Seat Post: propelbikes.com/product/thudb...
Selle Royal Ellipse Relaxed Saddle: propelbikes.com/product/selle...
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Thank you guys so much for watching!✌
If you're interested in looking into more comfort ebikes, feel free to check out this link: propelbikes.com/product-category/comfort-cruiser/
Coming from the Netherlands one of the worlds most bike loving and using countries I want you to give a HUGE compliment. Really a informative and no nonsense video. Spot on👍🏻
This is quite the compliment. I was pleased to visit there and you’re not kidding. Looking forward to returning again soon to be amongst other bike lovers :)
I suspect there are few who spend time in the Netherlands who don't pick-up some Dutch sensibilities, and cultural adjustment, especially when it comes to transportation and bicycles.
Here in the States the biking industry was highjacked by the mountain bike style and off road bikes which is basically not what the average American person wants or needs
@@Wilhuff_T
It's not just the price of petrol
There's also the price of : the vehicle, insurance, motor tax, NCT, parking, tickets, maintenance, spare parts ... etc
Furthermore : you can't put a price on the health benefits of regularly riding a bike.
I got an electric road bike, and the first thing I noticed on my rough street was how uncomfortable it was compared to my regular road bike. The first thing I ordered was the GA3 ergo grips which are very similar to what came on my specialized. Next I tried a shock seatpost, but I found that the height of it was too tall for me, adding +2" to the minimum height just didn't quite work out, which was dissapointing as it did make a huuuge difference to the comfort of my ride.
This is 100% the most informative video I've seen regarding features that are soo important to riders - especially those that are new to bikes. Thank you!
I added a Suspension Seatpost with a cloud 9 cushioned saddle it has transformed my ebike into a very soft ride.
Very informative. I'm 75 years old and right now riding an inexpensive "comfort" hybrid bike. I've recently been giving serious thought to getting an E-Bike.
get one
i use e bike to go to work and i love it
Dude, if you have the money, get one. They are so nice. I use mine to go everywhere: to visit friends, visit parents, commute to work, go to restaurants, and of course go on bike rides.
Bill K If you can afford it, get an R&M with dual suspension. I’m soon to be 75 and have been riding ebikes for a little over three years. First one was a Specialized Turbo. NO suspension. I added a Kinect seat post which helped a lot. Put 8,000 miles on that bike in two years. Then upgraded to an R&M Super Delite with Enviolo rear hub and belt drive, and dual suspension. I’ve not put 4,000+ miles on it and have had it only 10 months. I’m ready to sell my road bike and the Specialized comfort bike I bought 5 years ago. Get an eBike. You’ll love it.
I'm 77 and got an ebike because I live on top of a hill. With an ebike you don't have hills and you don't have headwinds. They are heavier so there are some differences in how you ride.
Get an ebike with peddle assist and a throttle for easy starts. You will love the ebike!
I know some people that bought quite expensive roadbikes thinking about weight, tires and gears but not giving a thought about saddlewith and the preassure it causes on nerves and stuff. Its really good to bring those things up.
Most informative thank you Chris. Ebikes seem to be taking off in the UK now a bit, I have two. Very handy for the older person(68), I'd not be without them, they've got me out on the road again which I'd missed. Greetings from Harrogate, North Yorkshire.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it! Ebikes are definitely growing in popularity! Great that you gave two and are getting out there! :)
You need an electric bike around those Yorkshire Dales! Stunning part of the country!
Great video Chris. This answered a number of questions that I had about retrofitting for my non-electric bike. Very helpful. Thanks you for your clear and accessible videos. Carol
Great video!
I’ve been using the cork style Ergo-grips for several years on a mountain bike and just ordered some for my Aventon Level. They’re the best.
Thanks for the tip on the Ergotec bars & stem. I may have to use them.
Keep up the great work!
Thanks Chris, im just trying to set up my new E bike and found this to be of great help with sitting position and comfort. John , Lincolnshire UK
Very comprehensive, as always Chris. Not a decision to be rushed, you want to try and get it right the first time. Thank you.
I really appreciate this informative content! Keep it coming!
I watch and listen to a lot of videos on bike equipment and safety - THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST I HAVE EVER SEEN. Thanks
Wow, so much I didn't even know to consider, Thks for this. Getting ready to make a purchase, glad I found this video.
Thank you Chris for a very informative review. I learned a lot from your video.
Excellent video on bike adjustments! Just what I needed to see!
Well done, you brought up all kinds of things to consider and their different impacts on the rider. Thanks
Great video...you answered many questions/issues for me. Thank you
Nice work on this video, informative, straightforward - appreciated.
His video compiles separate stuff I have learned over a few years. Great job.
At my LBS, the salesperson didn’t give a damn about comfort after he sold me the bike. Several months after the sale, he could have advised on changing the handlebar and stem due to being stretched out with lower back pain.
Thanks Chris.I am 70 and have just started to ride a three wheel tricycle which requires a very upright position. After two or three sessions my sit bones are really aching, so much so that I am still recovering from my last ride two days ago. Your advice to lean forward a little or to adjust the handle bars so that you sit a little more forward and thus reduce the pressure on your sit bones, seems worth trying. My tricycle already has a wider saddle so I will have to continue using that. I am going to buy an e bike conversion kit to help me get up the hills and this might help to reduce the pain in my butt! Best wishes from Birmingham, England.
Thanks for such an informative video with a great delivery!
Learned a lot. Didn’t expect it. Really good. Thanks.
After I initially bought a telescopic seat post that virtually jammed up under load withing 100 km, I bought a Suntour SP12-NCX suspension seat post with the cover about 5000km ago and never looked back.
That’s a nice post. I have to spend a bit more time on it.
Great informative video, rode Harleys over 100,000 miles now I'm enjoying my E Bike because of the exercise factor . I'm 76 in good/fair shape. Normally I would take hour walks now it's 2 on the bike here in California.
Thanks for answering my seat position, pedals and shoe queries. Great video Chris.
So great to hear!
Thank you soooooo much! Really helpful and very encouraging! 👍👍
Thanks a lot for this informative video. It helped me to consider my riding position a bit closer!
Great work Chris. Nice clip.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
I love the Jones H Bars... my hands/wrist go to sleep with a standard straight BTB bar... The position is really important... I also recommend the Selle Royal saddles.
A very interesting video. Thanks for taking the time to make it. I recently bought a 2nd hand non-electric *Babboe Big* tadpole tricycle/driewieler bakfiets. It's primary use is to transport astrophotography gear, (not Newtonian telescopes, and RCs). It's also splendid for going shopping here in Amsterdam. A trundle down to the supermarket and back, is very convenient. However, its downside is it's a heavy hardtail beast. Any bumps and lumps on the cycle path surface, are felt straight up my spine. To alleviate the problem, I upgraded the seat post to a *SUNTOUR SP-12 NCX* suspension saddle/seat post. I also purchased the optional red hard spring, rated for riders weighing: 100 - 120kg. At just over €71, the post was a bargain. The spring was just over €9. It's made a huge difference my cycling experience. The ride on the *Babboe Big* , is now as smooth as silk. My spine is extremely happy with the purchase 😆. I highly recommend this suspension seat post for anyone with a hardtail non-racing bike 😃.
thank you! excellent video.
Whoa, those seat post is what I need.
It definitely helps a lot!
Find a Brooks saddle that suits you. Most common one is the B17. I have two of them. If you want a bit suspension then the Flyer is B17 with springs! Tourers love them, I love them!
It's those frames that splits in 2 of rear shocks with front shocks that fits the comfort needed on e bike speed over 24mph. Huge difference from single front shocks and you do feel the bike adapting to surface terrain and extremely fun sitting down thru out. My other 1 front shock only e bike I tend to lift butt up over bumpy terrain.
Very helpful useful detail information. Mahalo!
Thanks Rex! Glad you enjoyed it!
You know where you're talking about. Big 👍👍👍up!
Wow, I can't thank you enough for this.
Very thorough.
Great video as always from you, Chris. Seeing your discussing handlebars, I wonder what the best choices might be of mirror(s) to add to them? What would really look good here in Michigan, would be me, wearing a Propel hat with your logo? What's the chance of you adding it to your store accessories? Thanks again.
Great job! Thanks
Thank you!
Great video. Especially your explanation of sitting upright vs leaning forward. Many believe sitting upright is the ultimate comfort. But I have found the opposite. It is like sitting on a bar stool. Not comfortable for more than a few minutes. And also like you said all the force of bumps go straight through your spine.
I'm really enjoying your videos during this unique time ✌🏼
Thanks James. I appreciate your kind words.
Your videos are excellent!
Thank you very much!
Very descriptive video. Definitely I confess that I am fixed on the Brooks b17 or b33 saddles for all my bikes. Very good point about the peddles, I confess that will be the first thing I will change when I receive the packster 70, put a more wider pedal like mountain bike type to use with my trail trainers.
I’m thinking about Brooks for my Tern HSD S8i but on peddles I fitted the two sided Shimano M324 so I can ride clipped in or not. Packager 70 a stunning machine 👍
Very helpful !
Very Helpfull thanks and greetings from Vienna.
Thanks Wolfgang! Glad you enjoyed. I look forward to visiting Vienna one day
Excellent. Thanks.
That was a fantastic video full of very useful information about ride position and what effects it, thanks.
Great tips! Any thoughts on numb toes after about 90 minutes of riding? Would you suggest changing shoes first to a firmer sole?
Excellent as always. I recently purchased a Moustache Samedi Tandem your review certainly played a part in my purchase . I want to change some things saddles pedals also cut the width of the bars they are way to wide any advice of how much I should cut off also suspension i would like to stiffen what would be a safe pressure limit. Most of our cycling is on roads and occasional cycle paths any advice would be most welcome.
I'm thinking about adding suspended seatpost to my Urban Arrow. The thing is that usually a cargo bike has more than one driver and their weight might differ. I think I will go for Cane Creek, beacuse it's easier to change the elastometer (tool free) while swaping riders than changing the string in Kinekt.
Very helpful
Hi Chris, thanks for this video. I’m just about to change my saddle : what’s the brand of the one we see at the bootom, with the blue triangle behind ?
I have the pedals with the sandpaper grip, and cork Ergon seat & grips. Royal Dutch Gazelle Medio T10.
Number one best comfort improvement for me was the thudbuster seat post.
Thx Chris, I’m really curious to get an extended handle bar for the Tern GSD but my bike store said they won’t do it due to it potentially affecting the warranty 😐
Excellent video thanks. I ride my Tern HSD S8i with the Shimano M324 pedals so I can ride clipped in or not. I’m still setting up my riding position so I echo the comments made in this video.
One of the great things about your video series is the level of "newbie" information. Walking into an LBS and asking for information as a commuter cyclist is often an exercise in frustration. Commuters aren't their audience, and the few they know are all people who have adapted their commutes into training rides. Those of us who want to take our kids to school and not change clothes when we get to out destination are asking for information that they just don't have.
I switched to a Hobson Easyseat back in the nineties & I've never gone back. The original hard rubber seat lets my hip bones sit right on the cushion & have full control of balance. The pads also move, allowing for leg movement. I've tried their pro version but still prefer the cheap one & use it on all my bikes. People ask me about it all the time. It does take some getting used to but it was designed by a doctor & it's much better for you.
I treated myself to an RM Superdelite Gx with belt drive after watching your review - just wondering if I should order some street tyres for fast commute and then change them over at the weekends when I hit the trails? Or more hassle than it’s worth?
Great video. If I may ask, what model/brand of the bike in this video you ride, clearly not the cargo but the other one?
Some good performance to price products so often esp with stores you only get the super high end stuff in videos
another good vid
Glad you enjoyed
got the Nevo3 on order from Propel for my girlfriend.... can't wait to see her face ;)
Very helpful video, well done. To confirm, is it possible to order a RM with a GP5 handle? Wondering if that would enable an upright riding position depending on the handle rotation back toward the rider?
Glad you liked the video. It’s not possible to order the bike with a GP5 grip but we can easily swap them in the shop. Angling the stem will get you an upright position but the GP5 grips can give you some other hand position options as well.
I was interested in your discussion about having fairly rigid soles on your cycle shoes. I would have totally agreed with you 9 months ago, but then started wearing barefoot shoes. Initially they were terrible to ride in, but now that I am used to feeling the ground, even the thinnest-soled shoes feel okay.
Yes, thanks for posting! Just started the video, but I have boney ass and don't stand up to pedal anymore. Help?
Excellent video and very helpful. I'm 6'1" and 192lbs. When I set on my seat should I just be on my tip toes or should I be able to put my feet flat on the ground?
When you are sitting on your saddle, you should be able to put the arch of your foot on the pedal and straighten your leg. When you put ball of your foot on the pedal during normal pedalling, you will have a slight bend to your knee when pedaling. Make sure you aren't rocking your hips when you are setting the height of your saddle. Your saddle height has nothing to do with being able to put your feet on the ground when stopped.
Great video, re: saddles . i have had the same Brooks England flyer saddle for years, well polished and still looks like new on my R&M Supercharger GX , given that i do a lot of long distance touring, i would recommend the Ergon GP 5 comfort grips
Great upgrades for sure!
Another very informative video from Chris!
If you have sensitive sciatica like me I can highly recommend the Brooks Flyer Imperial leather saddle. With a standard saddle I only last 60km 37mls a day. With the Brooks Flyer I can travel 134km 83mls.
Incidentally, the spiral springs on the Brooks leather saddle serve to dampen the hip movement and not the actual suspension, which is why I also installed a Thudbuster ST. This combination may be too heavy for a normal bike, perfect on my pedelec.
Greetings from Germany!
Good evening: I recently bought one of the first R&M bikes sold in Chile, the Supercharger and it's a wonderful eBike. Do you have any advice for a mirror that has a minimum of vibrations while riding?
I am interested in the water bottle holder -- what type is it? excellent video as always!
I think you're talking about the Fabric water bottle cage. See more here: propelbikes.com/product/fabric-cageless-water-bottle/
Спасибо , очень полезно.
Tnx, very useful!
What category would you label a Brooks B67 Aged Leather Saddle? thanks I use that I am a heavy rider and upright as well thanks again
This video is SO helpful (I'm a complete newbie!). I am looking at e-bikes, and I live in Mexico!! Can you tell me anything about Mexican brands?
You didn't mention anything about the pitch of the saddle. Do you have any advice about adjusting the pitch of the saddle (tilt forward and backward)?
Chris, great video as always. Do they sell pedal harnesses for ebikes? My wife and I have used them on all of our road and mountain bikes and like the confidence they provide.
Thanks! I don’t think they make any specific for eBikes, but I have seen some people use them. I don’t think it’s a bad idea
@@Propelbikes Thanks. I think we will use the ones on our current bikes when we get our ebikes. If they fit of course.
Wide-stance crank arms, e.g., on Bacou eBikes. Also good for people that have wider hips.
soft saddles are great for short distance commuting, but the longer you spend on a soft gel saddle the more you will stick to it and experience chaffing and saddle sores..my choice for my ebike is a Brooks B17 Narrow saddle, a firm leather saddle that initially feels hard but the longer the ride, the more comfortable it is, the Brooks is a firm leather saddle which allows you to move around without sticking to it and can be tension-adjusted which allows for the natural stretch of the leather.
Ian Fisher you mean soft saddles, are you referring to those memory foam saddles which can be compressed? It’s best to get hard saddles for Long ride?
@@winsonlimofficial yes correct, Iv'e found that those memory foam type saddles initially feel great but after a few hours the foam has compressed and i'm stuck to it and sitting on the plastic base, that's when it gets painful.
Many touring cyclists use a Brooks leather saddle, so, I bought one and it initially feels very hard but the longer the ride, the better it gets...mine is a Brooks B17 narrow saddle.
Ian Fisher I’m still deciding whether to get the Brooks B17 imperial or the Ergon ST Core Prime. I will be riding all day around 10hrs a day for my work and most probably 6 days a week.
Useful. I'm an upright tight rider most of the time. The "sporty" saddles kill me, and make the ride miserable. Always trying to find the right saddle that balance comfort (most important) with performance.
The Selle Royal Lookin series is pretty popular in our shop.
@@Propelbikes Thanx, will check that out.
Great video! How are you liking the Chinese knockoff of the Canyon Seatpost?
I had never seen the LookIn line of seats but that looks like it would be pretty great for my RadRunner Plus 3. Do you sell that saddle or another saddle that would be good to order for that bike?
Great video. I'm a heavier guy looking for my first ebike, and thanks to lockdown can't get out to try. What is the 1st bike you show?
Thanks! I would recommend looking at Riese & Müller Charger3 or the Supercharger2. They have a heavy duty package with moves the max weight to 353lbs. Most of their bikes are good to about 300lbs though. Feel free to shoot us an email if you want to talk more or I’m happy to also hop on a call.
@@Propelbikes wow they look amazing, thanks. They're a bit out of my price range tbh, looking at sub £2k. Maybe that's a bit optimistic. Been looking at the new Wisper Wayfarer. I have a ridgeback pedal bike, but the seat is excruciating, and the handlebars seem so far away. Bad choice, 10 years a go..
I’m not familiar with those ones. I would recommend a bike with a strong frame and wider tires. You can always swap the seat.
Chris - perfect explanation of why an upright seating position is such an advantage on an e-bike, especially a city bike style e-bike.
Initially, I thought the saddle that came with my R+M Nevo felt a little firm (Selle Royal Lookin 3D Moderate Man, I think?), but like Chris said, after a while firmer feels good and glad I stuck with it.
I also have the Kinekt seat post and it is by far my favorite suspension seat post. Perfect for riding in the city where there are lots of dips and bumps in the pavement, not to mention outright potholes.
I did hear that Cane Creek recently revamped their Thudbuster ST seat post with a new elastomer that has a removable "plug". The original Thudbuster ST was decent, but a little stiff. I wonder if we can retrofit our old Thudbuster ST's with the new elastomer?
Not mentioned are suspension forks - those add a lot of comfort to a city bike too.
Always love having your perspective. Thanks for pointing these things out. Much appreciated.
I have a trek marlin 6 that I’m currently converting to an e-bike but it’s positioning me too far forward for what I want because I can’t see my surroundings as easily. What would you recommend to adjust that?
Do you have any common the Dutch style of handle bars. I noticed on a recent trip to the Netherlands. Almost all the bikes I saw had the Dutch style. Thanks enjoy your videos
just bought a stem riser (aka steerer extender) for my new ebike due to neck problems that don't allow me to cran my neck up... hoping I don't need to buy other handlebars.
I have arthritis in my thumbs. Do you have a suggestion for what type of Ergo-grip would help?
Have you try the EZone Royal saddle ? Is it better for an e bike ?
Will putting Tannus Armour tire inserts into my 4”x20” tires make much of a difference? I ride on cobblestones and the bike has no suspension.
Around the 8min mark, there are water bottle holders near the stem. What brand are they?
Those are Fabric water bottles. propelbikes.com/product/fabric-cageless-water-bottle/
My gentleman’s area goes numb on long rides. Is that seat angle? Or handlebars to low?
show how to put a big screen tv and a recliner onto a bike would be nice 🙂🚲
The handlebars from ErgoTec which model were those
I like that is a fun bike
Are there hydraulic handle bare stems?
Softer the better, on the seat?
What mudguards are they?