Suntour NCX Suspension Seat Post - Tinkering Turtle
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Let’s talk about the Suntour suspension Seat Post!
Edited to add: I forgot to mention that this particular suspension seat post will add about 3 1/2” in height.
Suntour NCX suspension seat post (you will need a seat post shim to match your bike)
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Suntour heavy duty spring for heavy riders
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Forkboost Lube
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Cloud9 seat with springs
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Cloud9 seat without springs
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I bought mine 2 years ago and never adjusted the spring.Wow! something so simple.Now my rides will be more pleasant.Thanks for making the time to make this video.
Awesome!
Excellent and thorough information in this video. Much appreciated! Everything I needed.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for your video, I learned something today.
Glad it was helpful, your welcome.
Great video! Thanks. I just ordered this seatpost.
Hope you enjoy it!
great video. solved my installation problem thanks
Glad it helped
I agree with you totally, Suntour seat suspension post is one of the best upgrades I've ever made.
Makes the ride SO much better!
Just fitted mine .. A little stiff on 1st ride, just adjusted will try on next outing .. Even though was a little hard on first try, was still a lot better ride.Looking forward to getting the adjustment dead right for me ...
@TinkeringTurtle my ncx seat post is very loose, u can shake the outer part when the seat is attached, very strange, please help?
It also rattles
Thank you for the video! I just bought mine for my gravel bike and am a bit confused. If I want more bounce I wind it counterclockwise....correct? And at 160 is that the right spring (the one that came with the post? Their manual is a bit strange. It says the standard seatpost is for up to 75 kg in weight and the next one up goes from 70k to like 95 kg. Seems like that is an error. The standard should go up to 70 and the next one up should start at 75. See the manual online if you would like to verify. Appreciate you answering my questions. Thanks!
Yes, if you want a softer ride turn the adjustment knob counterclockwise. this takes preload off the spring. At 160 lbs, I would think you would want the softest spring. Just keep in mind that this is not an exact science (or adjustment). Mechanical spring design is simply not that precise.
Me personally, I would try to get the seat post adjusted with the spring that came with it. And if you can’t get it to where you want, then order the soft spring and see if you get a better result with it.
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@@TinkeringTurtle Thank you very much for responding so quickly and for the information. Hope this thing helps my back and hips
Thank you for the video, Will it be suitable for mountain biking to absorb shocks? How about the performance on flat surfaces, does it move with every pedal stroke? I am abit worried to lose power while pedaling due to moving seat position. What do u advise
I don’t notice it moving with pedal strokes too much. Although it is possible it move some. As for mountain biking, it will definitely absorb the shocks. But all that being said I look at this as more of a cruiser accessory. I won’t be able to tell you how it would hold up to mountain biking as I don’t really do that type of riding.
I had this post but sold it on as i though it was overkill for road bike use. I sikd ut fir more than paid for it post covid
At least you made a profit.
best video. thank you
You're welcome
I also have the same himiway zebra ebike. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Im going to buy a 27.2 mm by 350 mm sr suntour seatpost. What should be the size of the shim for my ebike?
Unfortunately I don’t have the zebra anymore. But I believe it takes a 30.9mm shim.
What saddle do you recommend?
I have tried two different brands. Cloud9 and YLG oversized. Out of the two I do prefer the Cloud9 by a fairly wide margin. The YLG was just a little tougher to pedal with, and I don’t have that issue with the Cloud9.
These are the two cloud9 saddles we have used on our bikes.
with springs:
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without springs:
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Watch this video for more info on why I put the cloud9 without springs on my wife’s bike.
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Thanks for the video. You said you always get a 27.2 mm post and purchase a separate shim to make it fit. Have you experience any issues with the post banging or slippage? I have a concern since I'm looking at the Suntour that is 400 mm length and 3.6 mm in diameter. Also, do you have a video on installing the shim?
I haven’t had any issues with the shims. Very occasionally you may see the seat twist slightly after a ride. Then you may need to adjust the clamp a little to be tighter, but it is pretty straightforward.
I don’t think I have a video showing me putting in the shim. But it is very straightforward. Simply slide the shim into the hole that the seat post goes in. Then slide the seat post into the shim.
@@TinkeringTurtle Thanks for your response. I appreciate it.🙂
Put shim in first then put seatpost in an adjust to height you like ! Lock clamp and ride!
What seat do you recommend?
I have tried a couple seats, and I prefer the cloud9. Check out this video for more info:
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Ik vind het een waardeloos ding. Hij veert te hard terug dan komt het zadel tegen de veer.
If that’s the case for you, I would suggest adjusting the tension.
What size seat post shim? The one I bought doesn’t lock my seat and it turns when I hit bumps
The shim will depend on which bike you have. The Himiway Zebra has a 30.9mm seat post. So I needed a 27.2mm-30.9mm seat post shim.
But if you have a different bike you may need a different shim.
@@TinkeringTurtle I have the Cruiser
According to Himiway’s website the Cruiser has a 30.4mm seat post. Here is a link to the one I used on my cruiser: (27.2mm I.d. to 30.4mm o.d.)
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@@TinkeringTurtle that’s what I have and the seat post is still very loose, do you have any suggestions what I can do? I’m thinking of going for a ride up to our local shop and see if they can fix it for me! And thanks again for all your awesome videos and love for e-bikes! They’ve been very helpful for me and look forward to meeting you in person one day! We are both from Michigan! If they ever do a ebike ride that fits both traveling and timing for us!! Lol
Well the obvious advice is to tighten the cam lock. It will make the handle harder to tighten down but it should eliminate the problem.
The only other advice would be to try a bigger shim. But the next size up is 30.6mm, and I am not certain if it will work or not. that is a fairly big jump. Here is a link for the 30.6mm if you decide you need to try it.
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Too far away from camera.
thx for the feedback
Great video. I'm waiting for delivery of the Suntour seat post (today) and can't wait to put it on after watching this. Well done, well presented. Thanks for the clear tips!
Hope you enjoy it as much as we do!
I want one, so how is yours now?
A great tutorial and video, thanks for taking the time to talk us through this
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks so much I just bought one and this helps a lot. I didn't know any of this and now I do. looking forward to a softer ride for my 77 year old bones.
Great to hear!
Enjoy the ride.
Thank You! .Great and thorough presentation.
You are welcome!
You just saved me with that advice to buy the smallest size and then shim it to the proper size so you can use it on any bike in the future. Thank you, seriously!
Glad I could help
I have been losing weight and my butt loves every pound I lose!
Nice!
I've had one on my Lectric XP with the C9 seat for a month or so. With just the C9, I would get lightning bolts up my spine when I hit a bump. With the NCX, I just float over the bump, just amazing.
Agreed!
Thanks for doing this video. I have loved my suntour seatpost for the past 2 years. I called Suntour to ask what to do and they hadn't heard of this squeaking issue but they did agree that I should lube the joints and maybe that'd help. Your video was EXACTLY what I needed to modify the squeaking issue of my seat. THANK YOU SO MUCH! BETH
Glad I could help!
I'm new to eBikes and bought the Suntour NCX as an option. This video is brilliant and by far the best, in that you take the time to explain in detail how to set it up correctly, adjust as needed and maintain it. Thank you so much.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great Review! How much extra post length do I need to accommodate the Suntour Bike Suspension Seat post? I’m concerned that after installing a Suspension Post, I will have raised the seat too high to be able to mount it easily. Thanks
It’s adds just a bit over 3 1/2”
Great to hear, as I just ordered one myself, and apparently comes with the cover. Wondering if I should give it any lube from being new, or put some miles on it first. Still got my Cruiser and now over 2600 miles of trouble free riding, and no flats with the 'flat-out' in the tubes thankfully. Thanks for the video.
I didn’t. I had no issues for the whole first season.
They are well worth the money I've got one on every ebike I have great product and you know another thing I like about that seatpost it always hold your seat exactly where you want it I've tried other seatpost and me being a bigger guy as well to see always wants to come lose on the other ones but this one holds it exactly where I want it
Agreed!
Great Video - I weight 280 lbs so this helped find the heavy spring - Now if I can find heavy springs / bushings replacements for the front forks - I have a Hanevear H-100
Glad I could help!
That's what I'm saving up for but it's so expensive for a seat post !
I agree, but it’s worth it!
Occasionally you can get a good deal on AliExpress. But it typically takes a long time to ship. If you decide to order thru that site, watch the shipping costs and expect a bit of a wait.
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I am thinking about getting this seat post, but they say up to 220 pounds. I weigh around 275. Is this able to handle this much weight?
Absolutely!
I weigh in at around 300lbs myself. My advice is to get the Suntour NCX (with the 27.2mm post, and a “seat post shim” to bring it up to the size of your bike) with the regular spring that comes stock. Ride it for a while, and see if you can get it adjusted. If you feel like you bounce too much, or it bottoms out and you can’t adjust it out, or it is too soft then you can order the heavier duty spring and add it later like I did. But there is a reasonable chance that the stock spring may work for you, so give it a try first.
I hope this helps!
@@TinkeringTurtle First, have to say interesting name you use for channel.
I've looked at a first of your videos and find great information, so thanks for that.
Of course, I noticed in your videos that you are like myself a big fellow and was about to ask your weight roughly but see you mention it here. Reason is, like Terry, I've often thought these seat post wouldn't work for us heavy dudes.
I found your channel looking at the review for Bikehand E-Bike Stand (which comments were turned off), excellent video btw.
Thanks again.
@NOWitsOKto Thanks for your comment, I’m glad the videos are helpful.
The Bikehand e-bike stand does work well. Although lifting some of these bikes up to get them on can be challenging. If you get one, find a box or something to put the front tire on while you lift the back end up. that will reduce the effort considerably.
I apologize for turning off comments. A lot of people complained about the music (understandably) and I got tired of all the negativity.
@@TinkeringTurtle no worries about the sound.
I have an Aventon Adventure.2, weighs 77 lbs (with battery) which is my 2nd Ebike. Just about have it “dialed-in” the way I want it, but us old guys (nearly 70) like comfort.
I'll probably give the Suntour a try soon. Are your links affiliate?
@NOWitsOKto Yes, the Amazon links are affiliate. Any others are not. Please remember that affiliate links do not cost you anything extra. And if you follow the link but find the product cheaper on Amazon, that is perfectly ok too. Do what’s best for you!
Thank you so much for this tutorial. Is the shim an easy install? 😊
Yes, it is. Simply slide it in the seat post on the bike, then slide the suspension seat post inside that.
For the price it should come with springs and cover
It is pretty pricey thru Amazon. It can be found cheaper on aliexpress.
Good tutorial. I bought my Suntour from a German site that carries the heavy or light strength inserts for about $10 and the whole thing was cheaper than a North American site, anyway.
Thanks for the info!
@@TinkeringTurtle In 2019 it cost 5.84 Euros for the extra spring and 47.86 Euros for the NCX from Germany.
I know you can get the Suntour seat post on aliexpress for about $65 give or take. But I haven’t seen the springs listed on there. Most people don’t want to wait for delivery from China, so they order from Amazon.
@@TinkeringTurtleare the springs Suntour? because what you showed in your video looked like aftermarket stuff
Will this seatpost work on the Magicycle Ocelot Pro?
Short answer, yes. I want to say again I, personally, always get the 27.2 mm version of the Suntour post. Then I purchase a seat post shim that fits the bike in question, in this case you would need a 27.2mm to 30.9mm shim. This allows you to use the seat post on other bikes by simply purchasing an inexpensive shim that fits the other bike.
I hope this helps!
what seat shim would i need for my Zebra? Do you have a link for that shim?
If you buy the 27.2mm suspension seat post, you will need a (27.2mm to 30.9mm) shim. Here is a link to the one I bought:
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I really hope so cause it's on its way through the mail lol
Best purchase I have made for my bike!
My ncx seatpost is loose and i mean when u touch the seat, it shakes and is very loose ??,
I have tightened every bolt and still very loose like the seat might fall off
I don’t know what to say. mine isn’t loose, it feels stable. Maybe yours is defective…?
Thank you for a proper review. I’m a big dude and this seat post seems like a match.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you very much. Most greatful!
You're very welcome!
I love mine along with cloud nine seat. Bike rides like a Lincoln continental
Nice!
Definitely worth it one of the best upgrades I’ve done on my e-bike
agreed!
Where do you get saddle post shims?
I have been purchasing them on Amazon. make sure you get the correct size for your bike.
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So is theseat3 inches from all the way down?
Yes when the Suntour seat post is adjusted all the way down, it is about 3 1/2” taller than the original post and seat.
Super awesome video sir! Love the tip about the shims. Thank you for showing the process to clean and set the preload!
Glad to help, thx for watching!
Thank you! How much adjustment/depth are you using that preload screw to? I called sr SUNTOUR and they recommended to start the preload when 10mm of threads are showing and adjust from there. I am starting with the 10mm and will update soon.
I’m not certain I know how much. I set it, bounced up and down on it and adjusted it up or down from there. I think the biggest thing is to not have it bottom out.
@@TinkeringTurtle thank you for your help!
Il never be without this seat post now.
agreed!
Thank you for the video. I weigh 160 lbs. and when I sit on my bike with my new NCX post there is no compression at all. I have adjusted the compression spring to the minimum, leaving approx. 10-15mm of threads exposed. Still no movement. The post is brand new and I will see if it loosens up after my first ride with it today.
You might consider switching to the lighter spring. It says it is rated for 143 lbs or less, but in my experience these weights are flexible.
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I really enjoy your videos. I took your advice and bought the Suntour seat post, shim, cloud 9 seat and the red spring(I'm a big guy too) you recommended for my new Himiway cruiser. My question is about lubricating the new red spring. The old spring had grease on it and the manual said to use SR Suntour No.9170-001 grease. Any suggestions?
Great to hear!
I think it is referring to this grease:
www.srsuntour.us/products/conpanna-fork-grease
If you don’t want to use that, I would guess that some lithium grease would work too.
I have some lithium grease and I just use that. Thanks@@TinkeringTurtle
Thanks for the video! When you replaced the spring (put the red in place of the black that comes with the suspension), did you re-grease the inside of the tube? No instructions came with my (red) spring. Thanks!
I have never greased inside the tube. Just the hinge points above the post. I simply took out the old and replaced it with the red.
@@TinkeringTurtle Thanks!
with the spring in for me it was not moving at all now it barely moves perhaps I have to sit on it? i think I'm missing something lol
Absolutely, the post is designed to cushion your body weight. So to test it, I lower the seat a bit and bounce my body weight on it. Then adjust the tensioner in the bottom of the post until I can bounce a lot and not bottom out the linkage.
Ok will try I prob want a firm bounce
Whatever your preference is. Try it a couple different ways and ride it a bit to find what works for you!
@@TinkeringTurtle thanks it seems like this might make me not have to wear padded shorts as often, the only prob is I have 3 bikes so trying it on one first lol
I now only wear the padded shorts on very long rides now. 👍
You can get it for one bike (the 27.2mm version with a shim), then purchase shims for your other bikes and swap the post to the bike you want to ride. It just depends on your riding habits.