I had one in the early 90's. I learned how to fly heli"s with it. As a beginner I also had the occasional impact with the earth, lol. I had Tower Hobbies on speed dial and was on a first name basis with the service department. I went through several sets of blades, tail booms, main shafts and other bits on a weekly schedule. It was a great flyer and after months of practice I finally got the hang of heli flying. The old Airtronics mechanical gyro worked well keeping the nose pointed where I wanted. Unfortunately the Concept was lost in a house fire, I lost everything except the clothes on my back. Rough times for sure. After a few years I recovered and now I have a Hirobo Shuttle ZXX. I've had it for over 20 years now and it's still flying today. It's also a great heli but the Concept will always be missed. Happy flying.
Hey Gordon, I started the same way. Tower hobbies finally discontinued selling parts. I bought 4 concept 30s in various conditions, scoffed up parts here and there. Got plenty of spare parts. Haven't flown her since the video was made. Been doing electrics. Sorry to hear of your loss, devastating. I couldn't imagine. At least you're back flying again. Glad you liked the video. Keep on flying.
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That’s a really unfortunately story man I’m sorry to hear that. I can’t imagine losing everything you own in a fire, for sure the helicopter was a sad loss but not the worst of it. Hope you recovered quick and im glad you got back in the hobby!
This is one of best RC videos. Thanks for sharing. I remember looking at this in the tower catalogs when I was a kid- like late 80s early 90s. never saw a concept in person.
truckpilot55 You also did a nice job on the shell. Looks cut out professionally and decals applied with class...not like some of this horseshit I used to see at the flying field.
G'day truckpilot55, That is some nice work with a classic helicopter there! Far too many people say "it's too hard to get parts for, I'll park it on the shelf and look at it" I have just acquired a 1990 Concept 30 SX and I plan on learning to fly on a little TRex 450 clone, then I am going to give it the flogging it so richly deserves! :-)
yeh it sounds like i should've taken your advise a few weeks ago :/ the helicopter sort of went through the hedge the other day and the gear grind'd down (i'm on the hunt for one on ebay) thank you again for all the help, i will be sure to move the tail boom back a bit and to check that the blades are all balanced :)
@@carters2 I've got a couple of spare concept 30s without the electronics and engines. Bought them for spare parts. debating getting rid of my fleet of concept 30 stuff.
you must have a TX that will mix throttle and pitch, otherwise you must use idle up and control pitch alone. if you are using a switch to control pitch, swap channels pitch and throttle. get the pitch gauge out and take some measurements. the vibration must be eliminated. looks like the tail boom is in to far causing the tail drive wire to bounce inside the boom. the manual explains all that. the blades must be balanced, and tracked, all the shafts must be straight.
they fly so much more responsive if you take the stock wire drive out and put a NHP carbon "tube" drive in, scour the web and you will find one, the wire drives have got so much spring in them.....i keep watching the vid as it brings back so many memories for me, i am flying a Raptor 50 these days though
screw the brass collar on the shaft and use locktite. if you are talking about the tail drive shaft, you must push the boom all the way in and pull it back 1/8 inch so that there is end play between the two ends of the drive shaft, other wise the shaft will bow and cause severe vibration.
the concept 30 is easier to learn on then the 450. much larger, and much more stable. that's how i learned. parts can be found on ebay. also tailwinz dot com sells a lot of parts, new and used. blades can be matched up, just be aware of the root thickness at the blade grip.
mannn, after two months got it all sorted, tried starting it tonight and find a cracked fuel tank, no glow plug along with a blocked filter... gotta wait till tomorrow now haha
i've tried the process of elimination, when i get nearly all the servos in the right place, my some sticks are opposite, etc. i know this sounds silly, but could you just tell me which number on the receiver does the plug the comes out of the on/off switch plug into (it has 2 wires). this seems to be messing up my stick movements, thanks
usually the first or the last socket is power. sounds like your swash is not set properly. check out the link in my video description, you might find it usefull. let me know if it helped.
hi there, i'm having some trouble with the tail rotor shaft. it slides in and fits in well but then the blades start spinning, the shaft slowly wobbles and becomes lose.. has this happened to yours, if so is there anything i can do to help stop the shaft sliding out? - thanks
the best i got it to work was by holding it by the tail and lifting off :( the collective would not go up with the throttle so the collective could only be controlled separately by a switch. if you look on my channel you can see the heli hovering for a bit (with the aid of my hand) , thanks for checking up though :)
do you possibly think you could say which servo goes to which number in the receiver, i'm having some trouble getting the transmitter to move the servos. i've got a matching pair for the frequency channels. Any help would be amazing from anyone :)
Speaking of being too hard to get parts for, I know I need main blades, tail rotor blades and there is something else missing from the tail rotor? Can you still get these parts somehow or do I need to start thinking about how I am going to make them?
What fuel are you using. I was using a blue 80/20 mix and had mine running pretty solid once. I showed the video and they said there should be more smoke coming out. So I moved the HS needle wider by one single click, and now shuts off once in the air. I moved one click back in and still shuts off in the air. The carb was pretty clogged up. I'm thinking a seal or some dirt is in there which is making it so its not a smooth adjustment.
Been using 15 % cool power heli fuel. Sounds like you have bad fuel. This fuel attracts moisture over time. If the fuel has been open a while it should be discarded. This vid was the break in period, running a rich mixture. Try new unopened fuel.
I was told to use 80/20 because helis need that extra lubrication since they run hard constantly, vs short bursts in a car. The carb acts like there is junk in there because one click on the high speed makes it go dramatically one way or another. I had it working great and someone commented I should have more smoke and it went downhill after that.
Did you try new unopened fuel? Try carb cleaner. Open needle valve one and three quarter turns. Get it running then screw in to a rich setting, maybe a couple of clicks. Try a couple of drops of lighter fluid in the carb to help get it going. If this doesn't work, you probably damaged the engine running to lean.
Engine runs great right now. Idles perfect and runs forever. I just have troubles once I throttle up enough to get off the ground. I will try pulling it again and using fresh 80/20 fuel. If I start from scratch, how many turns out should I start with on low and high speed? Starting from screwed all the way clock wise, how many turns out on both? I always get confused too on is clockwise lean or richen.
mapoff The main needle screws clockwise all the way in, then unscrew it counterclockwise 1.5 turns to richen the mixture. The other screw inside the barrel is the transition adjustment from idle to full throttle. If your transition is smooth, don't mess with it. Same deal, screw in, clockwise to lean. I'm not sure but i think that is 1.5 turns out from bottom also. This adjustment is very delicate and requires very little increments. If when throttling up the engine stops you must see or hear a rich or lean condition. If to rich, turn the screw in, clockwise to lean. Use only small adjustments. It is always better to start rich, lean it out as you break-in you engine. Better rich than lean.
Looks like the head Speed is a bit low, take some collective pitch out of the blades and let the rotor head spool up a bit more, than adjust everything else accordingly
I just went to a yard sale in lakeland florida and found 2 gas power heli one is a kyosho 30dx and the other much bigger like 2 foot bigger no idea motor is -o.s max special editio came with one fatuba radio for kyosho and a real strang radio for the other it says j.r circus circus las vegas on the radio have any clue well i pay total of 65 dollars for them and wanted to find a starter for dx
I had one in the early 90's. I learned how to fly heli"s with it. As a beginner I also had the occasional impact with the earth, lol. I had Tower Hobbies on speed dial and was on a first name basis with the service department. I went through several sets of blades, tail booms, main shafts and other bits on a weekly schedule. It was a great flyer and after months of practice I finally got the hang of heli flying. The old Airtronics mechanical gyro worked well keeping the nose pointed where I wanted. Unfortunately the Concept was lost in a house fire, I lost everything except the clothes on my back. Rough times for sure. After a few years I recovered and now I have a Hirobo Shuttle ZXX. I've had it for over 20 years now and it's still flying today. It's also a great heli but the Concept will always be missed. Happy flying.
Hey Gordon, I started the same way. Tower hobbies finally discontinued selling parts. I bought 4 concept 30s in various conditions, scoffed up parts here and there. Got plenty of spare parts. Haven't flown her since the video was made. Been doing electrics.
Sorry to hear of your loss, devastating. I couldn't imagine. At least you're back flying again.
Glad you liked the video. Keep on flying.
That’s a really unfortunately story man I’m sorry to hear that. I can’t imagine losing everything you own in a fire, for sure the helicopter was a sad loss but not the worst of it. Hope you recovered quick and im glad you got back in the hobby!
This is one of best RC videos. Thanks for sharing. I remember looking at this in the tower catalogs when I was a kid- like late 80s early 90s. never saw a concept in person.
Thanks man, I'm glad you like it.
truckpilot55 You also did a nice job on the shell. Looks cut out professionally and decals applied with class...not like some of this horseshit I used to see at the flying field.
@@goldenmanuever1176 right it all looks to scale, oh how have the times changed, 12 years ago
I love these old retro helis. Cool footage.
Smooth flying! Cool shot flying back up the driveway. Makes me want to dust off my DX and fly it again!
G'day truckpilot55,
That is some nice work with a classic helicopter there! Far too many people say "it's too hard to get parts for, I'll park it on the shelf and look at it" I have just acquired a 1990 Concept 30 SX and I plan on learning to fly on a little TRex 450 clone, then I am going to give it the flogging it so richly deserves! :-)
Kyosho was the bomb back in the 80s and 90s!
yeh it sounds like i should've taken your advise a few weeks ago :/ the helicopter sort of went through the hedge the other day and the gear grind'd down (i'm on the hunt for one on ebay) thank you again for all the help, i will be sure to move the tail boom back a bit and to check that the blades are all balanced :)
Excellent rotation similar to real helicopter. I like this in Concept 30.
I have one of these I’m my basement. Needs some work but would be awesome to get it going again.
a good project while social distancing, go for it.
@@truckpilot55 have you been able to gets parts for it? Last time I flew it the servo motor battery died in flight and it nose dived into the ground.
@@carters2 I've got a couple of spare concept 30s without the electronics and engines. Bought them for spare parts. debating getting rid of my fleet of concept 30 stuff.
Great video, thanks! I can hardly wait to get mine flying!
I had some nitro Kyosho cars back in the 80s and 90s.
nice flying. i dont like to fly in small areas. you make it look easy
Great video!
I remember that brown flying box!!!! what good memories
you must have a TX that will mix throttle and pitch, otherwise you must use idle up and control pitch alone. if you are using a switch to control pitch, swap channels pitch and throttle. get the pitch gauge out and take some measurements. the vibration must be eliminated. looks like the tail boom is in to far causing the tail drive wire to bounce inside the boom. the manual explains all that. the blades must be balanced, and tracked, all the shafts must be straight.
Nice Flying👍
추억 돋는다~~~고딩2학년때 ~~
내 첫 헬기~~
머플러도 오리지널이넹~~~
Sx Sr ~~~추억돋는다^^
후타바 조종기^^
30여년전
입문한 헬기 Concept 30 DX ...
옛 추억을 소환할까 해서 찾아왔는데 한국분이 계셨네요...ㅎㅎ
반갑습니다^^
they fly so much more responsive if you take the stock wire drive out and put a NHP carbon "tube" drive in, scour the web and you will find one, the wire drives have got so much spring in them.....i keep watching the vid as it brings back so many memories for me, i am flying a Raptor 50 these days though
thank you so much, it's holding in now :)
screw the brass collar on the shaft and use locktite. if you are talking about the tail drive shaft, you must push the boom all the way in and pull it back 1/8 inch so that there is end play between the two ends of the drive shaft, other wise the shaft will bow and cause severe vibration.
😮😮😮 amazing vintage heli😮😮
Very cool design 😊😊
Easy to get spare parts and gears in 2024? Greetings :)
the concept 30 is easier to learn on then the 450. much larger, and much more stable. that's how i learned. parts can be found on ebay. also tailwinz dot com sells a lot of parts, new and used. blades can be matched up, just be aware of the root thickness at the blade grip.
corr i remember i had one of these, best heli ever (of its day) i ended up putting the Bell222 body on it, geez that was like 15 years ago !
mannn, after two months got it all sorted, tried starting it tonight and find a cracked fuel tank, no glow plug along with a blocked filter... gotta wait till tomorrow now haha
@alaskapilot22 thanks. she does fly nice.
ya man, get her dusted off. have some fun. i'll have this back out in the spring when it warms up a little.
i've tried the process of elimination, when i get nearly all the servos in the right place, my some sticks are opposite, etc. i know this sounds silly, but could you just tell me which number on the receiver does the plug the comes out of the on/off switch plug into (it has 2 wires). this seems to be messing up my stick movements, thanks
usually the first or the last socket is power. sounds like your swash is not set properly. check out the link in my video description, you might find it usefull.
let me know if it helped.
hi there, i'm having some trouble with the tail rotor shaft. it slides in and fits in well but then the blades start spinning, the shaft slowly wobbles and becomes lose.. has this happened to yours, if so is there anything i can do to help stop the shaft sliding out? - thanks
the best i got it to work was by holding it by the tail and lifting off :( the collective would not go up with the throttle so the collective could only be controlled separately by a switch. if you look on my channel you can see the heli hovering for a bit (with the aid of my hand) , thanks for checking up though :)
Vc ainda tem esse helicóptero?
What engine? I am assuming a period correct OS .32? Also, what headspeed are you running? Like 1,400-1,500?
My 14 year old self just self actualized
do you possibly think you could say which servo goes to which number in the receiver, i'm having some trouble getting the transmitter to move the servos. i've got a matching pair for the frequency channels. Any help would be amazing from anyone :)
Great vid man! i have the same model! i made a restoration in it.... please, tell me, what kinf of fuel you use? regards from brazil!
That's! Rc nitro copter meby not easy too flay. If have dont know how.
What kind of gyro does this have?
Speaking of being too hard to get parts for, I know I need main blades, tail rotor blades and there is something else missing from the tail rotor? Can you still get these parts somehow or do I need to start thinking about how I am going to make them?
you must have a 6 channel heli radio. plug everything in and move the sticks. use process of elimination.
Esmui chulo
Don't understand. I speak English
I guess im too young to remember this heli...but is that one of the first dfc models?
What fuel are you using. I was using a blue 80/20 mix and had mine running pretty solid once. I showed the video and they said there should be more smoke coming out. So I moved the HS needle wider by one single click, and now shuts off once in the air. I moved one click back in and still shuts off in the air.
The carb was pretty clogged up. I'm thinking a seal or some dirt is in there which is making it so its not a smooth adjustment.
Been using 15 % cool power heli fuel. Sounds like you have bad fuel. This fuel attracts moisture over time. If the fuel has been open a while it should be discarded. This vid was the break in period, running a rich mixture. Try new unopened fuel.
I was told to use 80/20 because helis need that extra lubrication since they run hard constantly, vs short bursts in a car. The carb acts like there is junk in there because one click on the high speed makes it go dramatically one way or another. I had it working great and someone commented I should have more smoke and it went downhill after that.
Did you try new unopened fuel? Try carb cleaner. Open needle valve one and three quarter turns. Get it running then screw in to a rich setting, maybe a couple of clicks. Try a couple of drops of lighter fluid in the carb to help get it going. If this doesn't work, you probably damaged the engine running to lean.
Engine runs great right now. Idles perfect and runs forever. I just have troubles once I throttle up enough to get off the ground. I will try pulling it again and using fresh 80/20 fuel.
If I start from scratch, how many turns out should I start with on low and high speed? Starting from screwed all the way clock wise, how many turns out on both? I always get confused too on is clockwise lean or richen.
mapoff
The main needle screws clockwise all the way in, then unscrew it counterclockwise 1.5 turns to richen the mixture. The other screw inside the barrel is the transition adjustment from idle to full throttle. If your transition is smooth, don't mess with it. Same deal, screw in, clockwise to lean. I'm not sure but i think that is 1.5 turns out from bottom also. This adjustment is very delicate and requires very little increments. If when throttling up the engine stops you must see or hear a rich or lean condition. If to rich, turn the screw in, clockwise to lean. Use only small adjustments. It is always better to start rich, lean it out as you break-in you engine. Better rich than lean.
No shirt and sandals! Let's do this!
Looks like the head Speed is a bit low, take some collective pitch out of the blades and let the rotor head spool up a bit more, than adjust everything else accordingly
The engine was being broken in. It was the second flight. It flew fine for me. No sense burning it up.
@@truckpilot55 ok. i didnt know that it was still being broken in
Thanks for your input and your interest. Happy holidays.
Nice nose in work.
I just went to a yard sale in lakeland florida and found 2 gas power heli one is a kyosho 30dx and the other much bigger like 2 foot bigger no idea motor is -o.s max special editio came with one fatuba radio for kyosho and a real strang radio for the other it says j.r circus circus las vegas on the radio have any clue well i pay total of 65 dollars for them and wanted to find a starter for dx
did you get her flying yet ?
Look for main blades its so hard 2 find in ebay.anyone sell parts for them?i am from greece.
look for carbon fiber blades and match them up.
Is it easy to control
It takes a lot of patience and practice. Very steep learning curve.
Easy to control once you get the hang of it.
so what does that say, your wallet is is so lite it will become airborne like the concept 30 ? your very welcome. good luck man and keep me posted.
Clear prop huh
clear prop, get out of the way of the propeller.
great. send me a vid.
I got two of them for sale..
+Mike Aebi (No Limit Films) how much?
+pofrani I was thinking 500 for both..