Check out the RC Helicopter here: bit.ly/3Kd9kxh LEARN MORE ABOUT THE ACADEMY OF MODEL AERONAUTICS HERE: join.modelaircraft.org/rc-saylors/ This is our most expensive RC helicopter crash ever. This insane $700 rc helicopter crashes on takeoff. This is the Fly Wing UH-1 V3 rc heli. Upon reviewing everything we still have no idea why this failure occurred. Let us know your thoughts in the comments. Disclosure: This description box contains affiliate links. Check out the RC Helicopter here: bit.ly/3Kd9kxh LEARN MORE ABOUT THE ACADEMY OF MODEL AERONAUTICS HERE: join.modelaircraft.org/rc-saylors/ The products in this video are rated for ages 14+. Support TheRcSaylors Patreon & Stickers | www.patreon.com/TheRcSaylors Merch | www.thercsaylorsyt.com/shirts Mail | 1140 Carter Ave, P.O. Box 361, Ashland, Kentucky 41101 Social Media TheRcSaylors Shorts | bit.ly/3rN37xp Facebook | facebook.com/thercsaylors Instagram | instagram.com/thercsaylors Twitter | twitter.com/thercsaylors Vlog and Live Channel | ruclips.net/user/TheSaylorsYTchannel SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR PATREON FAMILY!! Jesper Larsen, john salt, Jose Valentin, Michael Keller, Michael Schouten, RC HOOLIGANS, Richard Higginson, Robert Sanges, Ryan Alexander, Terry Kellogg, The Brennan's, Bob Hardy, Chris Hamlett, Chuck R, David Chenzoff, dmilbrandt, Doug Dahlheimer, erik palmberg, Gary Zion, Haar Bear, Jason day, and Jeff Buys #rchelicopter #rcheli #crash
The GPS setting and calibration was probably set to some other countries. You should have reprogram it using a laptop and internet. Also, after few turns of the tail rotor it stopped then it started to turn backwards.
I'm just not too far away from you outside of HTN, WV. I am a seasoned intermediate collective pitch rc hobbyist-worked my way up into the blade models to the 450 size collective etc. I was very excited about this chopper.....had 1 single great flight on the v3 huey/ 2nd flight was hovering to show my brother at a family function and all of a sudden chopper went left uncontrollably........home switch did not solve.....had to hit the off switch and it came down hard. I ordered new gear had a week later /repaired it as damage suprisingly wasn't too severe./ went thru the setup etc/all a go with gps and receiver prompts/colors/-the esc was very hot and no spool up......there are issues with this version/ so don't blame yourself. I believe there are issues with the esc as well as the connecting rods/degree of binding and popping off.... as some have pointed out. Too many issues so far reported.
For all new to helis: You should mount the tail rotor without the main blades and verify you can yaw the heli correctly on the ground and also that the gyro corrects in the right direction. To test the gyro hold the heli in such a way that you don't get hit by the tailblades and yaw the heli by physically moving it. You should feel it resist the yaw. If the gyro accelerates the yaw then the correction is backwards.
🤙 Great advice, many thanks. I did this yesterday several times before taking up my Flywing Bell 206. Everything was textbook perfect for the maiden flight in 10 mph winds. Hopefully they give this one another whirl. Had a blast flying mine! 😎
RTF doesn’t mean RTF. Everything should be looked over before a maiden, and double checked. Also always perform a preflight check. Learn to fly the basics without the assistance of the flight controller just in case,😉. This could of been prevented. The important thing is that no one was injured. Yeah I’m late to the party! Lol
Please keep this video on youtube and never take it off because of pressure from the company or anyone. $700 is a lot of money people have to spend their saving to get this helicopter. As buyers, we deserve to know the quality of the product we purchase, especially at this HIGH price.
...😂People don't need to know About it Cause after they crash they can get off hobby and we won't have to see them anymore because they don't belong in the hobby in the 1st place because they're posers
Guys don’t worry about the negative comments as you know everybody’s a EXPERT on the comments!! I’m glad you all didn’t get hurt, glad you’ve brought this to light! I’m constantly emailing manufacturers to test products and always shot down. I’ve been racing cars and off road trucks for over 30 plus years and I’ve seen it all. But glad you get to make a living doing what you love which in the end is all that matters.
It was definitely a teal rotor issue. Whether it was installed backwards at the factory or the motor was turning it the wrong way that’s what made it spin out of control.
GLAD you never took this down. Long time FW user. This V3 Huey got absolutely DESTROYED in the comments section of the product showcase video by MotionRC. I mean nuke'd..so bad that they REMOVED the video a week later. I wonder if A) FW asked them to remove it or B) its because they are seller of them. Good to see there is someone who still has some kind of a moral compass in this day and age.
I’ve always said Motion plays dirty, because they do. Interesting to know they’ll delete comments and even videos if they can’t handle the truth! Did you know this company has offered to pay us to remove the video? They’ve said they’d send another helicopter too, but only if we agreed to remove this. I think it’s important for people to know the truth, and so many will sell out or back down when challenged with doing the right thing. Like Motion! ⚓️
I have flown this helicopter a lot this week. You did everything correctly unfortunately looks like you had a defective one. It’s actually super fun. Whoever you got it from get a warranty and try again. If you get one that works it’s absolutely amazing.
Dude! It’s so good to hear from you! 😁😎❤️ I wasn’t even sure if you were still active on this channel! 👍💯 Really appreciate your input here. Makes me feel so much better ⚓️
@@TheRcSaylors I’m not really active on MB anymore now that I’m full time at Motion RC. But sometimes I still comment with it. Yea we just got them in stock and I’ve been letting everyone try it at the field. Sorry to hear you got a bad one I highly recommend you get a replacement as this helicopter is awesome. I almost wonder if your tail rotor was wired backwards somehow from the factory. Hopefully you can get another one and give it a proper review because I think you would truly love this one.
I did not see you do any pre-flight checks. Most important is to check the response of the gyro - in your case its looks like you had the tail response reversed. You also need to check the gyro response for aileron and pitch. Again, its absolutely the most important thing when maidening a helicopter of this size.
I am no heli expert but it looks like the tail motor was wired in the wrong direction. The good news is that you can learn from every crash. I think in the future it might make sense to test the motor direction before installing the main blades. I know how bad it can feel but don't be discouraged. The factory should have made sure the wires were right for the tail motor but it doesn't hurt to check. BTW, my hindsight is 20/20.
Don't worry. You did everything right. The tail motor failed. Not your fault. I own several Flywing FW450Ls. I own that one and crashed several of them. Flywing has quality control issues. I fly them often and have crashed several times due to manufacturers defects. No worries. All you could do is flip the off switch once back down. I crashed the Bell 206 when gps failed. I delayed a second to flip that switch too. Still repairing it now. No worries.
That was a tail rotor failure i had the same problem with the fw450 the tail boom wasn't fully pushed in so the motor didn't spin.But in your case the motor was spinning so either it was going the wrong way or the motor wasn't producing enough thrust.
Tail rotor was turning the wrong way, it's motor was mis-wired. Evidence: As seen at 02:52, the tail rotor was turning the other way around. Not only because by turning the way it did it had its top blade moving forward and bottom blade moving aft (contrary to what is generally used), but especially because turning this way the blades are obviously turning backwards, i.e., the blades are advancing leading edge-first, as can be seen by the blade shape at 06:14. The tail rotor motor is wired incorrectly. To fix it: if it is a brushed motor, swap its two wires. If it is brushless, swap any two of its 3 wires. Regarding the crash itself, if you did the connection yourself, then that's that. If, however, the motor came pre-wirerd, then someone at the factory is to blame and you're in for a replacement. Here's one check that could be done prior to flying those ready-built helis for the first time: remove ALL of the rotor blades (main and tail), and briefly spin up the motors, verifying that they in fact turn in their appropriate directions. Mistakes do happen, and this simple check can save the day.
Dude, gotta be careful. As an insurance professional, AMA is an excess policy not primary. You fly into something or blow someone's car up, it's your homeowners, umbrella or whatever policies you may have first, not the AMA.
Back in 2008 over the winter I built a stunt plane with a O.S. 40 on it. I have everything dialed in, go to the field do a range check with my old now 75 MHZ radio. Took off great then got weird and went straight up and straight down and disintegrated. I forgot to put my antenna out. You guys are great. Keep having fun.
Man. I’m really sorry to hear about this crash! But also really appreciate you sharing it because it lets me know that I’m not alone! Thank you 🙏❤️😎💯⚓️
I would like to know if u found out what caused this heli to go out of control and crash because im interested in puchasing one but now im scared to its alot of money for a malfunction like that
I appreciate you guys showing this and glad you're both safe. You should do a follow-up to let us know how support with the company over this goes. Do you show them a video and see what they say? How do they handle the incident for customers?
Sorry for your crash. Something was defiantly wrong with the tail (not spinning or turning in the wrong direction). I’m not sure what you did or checked before this flight, but you should never take off that quickly on a maiden flight. I’ve been flying RC helis for over 30 years, and I always take off very slowly on my first flight to make sure everything is set up correctly. I will admit, I’ve had the same issue you did with 1 or 2 helis on their maidens, where I had the tail gyro correcting in the wrong direction, but I was only light on the skids when I realized it was about to spin out of control, so I could stop it before anything bad happened.
I think you might have missed the orientation/initialization procedure for the h1 controller. Well since it's crashed maybe you can get a kensen receiver fix it and learn the prodeure to set it up for your dsmx radio. You could also strap it down to a table ir build a test stand to confirm your setup is good. Thanks for sharing your experience. I've been looking at getting one of these myself. I've also watched John Salt's setup on the the h1 receiver with his radiomaster setup. He makes some good points.
OK I just saw captain drone do a review on this. If you have a version 3 you didn't do anything wrong. They may not have correctly oriented the gps at the factory. He was using a version 3 and said it didn't require the orientation procedure out of the box.
Yeah it looked like the tail rotor is spinning opposite its started and stopped and then started again when you powered up. But I think it was spinning in the wrong direction. There was absolutely no tail rotor authority
Man, that was bananas. I'm glad you are both doing well. Helicopters 🚁 are so scary when they are running good. When this happens people can get injured very badly. You can so hear the disappointment and sadness in your voice. Never really heard you rattled before. Again, glad you are all ok..
We are at mercy of quality control of all of these manufacturers from overseas, these things can and will happen and you took safeguards that you could take, dont beat yourself up.
Nate dont take this the wrong way as its ment as a compliment... I love how genuinely goofy, realistic, honest and how "unprofessional" you are. U represent the ppl and you make mistakes, u laugh and giggle and show the real side of this hobby, where 💩 and 😂 does happen. If i was gona spend a day flying with any RUclipsrs it would be with you and obv Captain Brian Philips 🍻
Boy, I’m glad I saw this, and read the comments, I was just about to pull the handle on buying this. To read that Flywing and Motion won’t cover this, can’t afford $700 defects.
It seemed to behave like the tail gyro part of your flybarless system was reversed. That could be a flaw caused at the factory when they set it up. I don't believe this was pilot error, as I've seen you fly helis before with no issues.
Captain Drone RUclips channel posted his flight video of this helicopter this morning and it sounded differently than the one you were flying. Probably doesn't mean a thing but I did notice a difference.
Elecrical failure on ESC and motor were caused from power still on when it tipped over and hit the ground and Nate you were right about everything else except not hitting kill switch other then that thank you for posting the whole video God Bless Take Care
I ordered one of these from RCGoing then watched your video. That made me very cautious when mine came and I started it up. Needless to say, I went super slow and double checked everything. My flight experience was far different than yours, but I have to say that your video made me go slow and do things correctly. So... from that aspect, your video had a positive impact on my experience. For years I was an editor for a couple of digital car magazines. I was always amazed by the keyboard warriors that never had anything positive to add, nor did they put out any content of their own. The people that hate on this or other planes because they aren't "real" helicopters or whatever... do nothing more than drive people away from the hobby. I appreciate that you put out content that is interesting and helpful. If it helps anyone that gets involved in the hobby to have fun... then it is worth it. Keep putting out more content. There are plenty of us that enjoy and benefit from what you do.
My suspicion is something wrong with the tail rotor motor or ESC, and the tail rotor ESC was the source of the smoke. The battery, from what I could see in the video, did not look like it had suffered catastrophic failure. As others have said, the way it was spinning was indicative of insufficient tail rotor power to counteract the main rotor torque. When it was sitting on the ground, the friction of the skids on the pavement was enough to keep it from spinning, but when you lifted off, there was no longer any resistance.
Nate, I'm exiting the beginner phase and maturing into an intermediate pilot. What's got me there was consistent sim time. Daily if you can. It's very difficult and frustrating in the beginning but if you stick with it, you will get better. Starting out, the sim is more important than any model you buy. Get decent there first and then you'll have much better results in real life.
I agree with the sim for helicopters especially! I trashed my first heli. Now I only fly helis on the sim until I am 100% confident with he real thing!
Not your fault. I started helicopter flying with the small ones that are ready to fly. The experience has been very much the same as yours. Then I built my first T-Rex(450) and that's when things started to get much easier. The easiest thing to fly is my T-Rex 700 Pro HV. Built and adjusted by myself and flown on its back and loops with no effort. Believe me.... I was blown away by how much better they handle.
Tail motor defiantly wired backwards. Watch at 2:49 when it starts you can see it is going backward. I guess RTF doesn't always mean RTF. Thank you for putting this out. If nothing else it serves as a reminder for all of us in the hobby that even if it is ready to fly we have to check them. I know that i would have done the same as you, and I have. Grab a new RTF, throw batteries in, Quick control check and GO. Thanks again for keeping it real, and God Bless You and your Family.
I hope you contact the company and they send you another one.i was so disappointed for you and it definitely was not your fault! Glad you both were safe.
Sorry for your loss! I lost a quadcopter I loved a year ago. I panicked and hit the disarm instead of GPS rescue, completely my fault. It plagued me because I really liked that quadcopter. It may be recoverable however it went down in tall thorny brush, a tick infested area and I don't want to risk being attacked by ticks. Nate don't be so hard on yourself, I've recently had some bad days of RC however not all days go like this but some do. Wishing y'all the best!
HI, engineer and private ilot here. 1:51 From plan view (i.e. from the top) the rotor is supposed to spin clockwise. In doing so, the resultant torque will try to turn the tail anticlockwise. To counteract the torque, the tail rotor must try to blow air. 0:42 from the angle of the blades, to blow air, the rotor must turn anticlockwise. However, at 2:53 we can see the tail rotor spin clockwise. So, not only the tail rotor NOT counteracting the torque, but also contributing to the torque. Therefore, this is 100% NOT your fault, but I believe the manufacturer miswired the tail rotor. This is a manufacturing defect so I think if you contact the manufacturer, they should be obliged to either repair it, or send you a new unit. Q.E.D.
You are of course, quite correct, however it seems to me (watching the video frame by frame) that although tail does in fact start initially in the wrong direction it then appears to stop 2:53 and restart in the correct direction. Not easy to see though because of the speed of rotation, camera shutter speed and playback framerate. It may just be an optical effect. Clearly though, something wasn't right with the tail or gyro.
@@stuartthurstan Yes, it started in the wrong direction. That it seemed to spin again the correct direction I believe is an optical illusion. A correctly built rotor, propeller or turbine system should not be able to spin both directions.
So glad to know it wasn’t my fault! I was really worried for a bit, so greatly appreciate your feedback! Also, much respect knowing both an engineer and private pilot might watch our videos every now and then!! Thanks so much for the input and for watching! 👍💯❤️😎⚓️
Your tail rotor was spinning the wrong direction. You have to have to make double sure with your tail rotor first before lift off. Cuz i seen that on many of helicopter crashes cuz of tail rotor was spinning wrong direction. I can see the trail prop is on correct, but the rotor is spinning wrong. The RPM speed went out of control when center rotor or tail rotor is spinning wrong way. I'm so glad you guys are okay though! I'm sorry about this helicopter 🚁
Wow! I’ve been away for a while. This was a total shocker being my first video back. Thank the good Lord you were both safe from any injuries. I’m definitely not a seasoned Heli pilot, but have had a few in the air. Almost seems to me to have been a gyro or tail issue???? Never worry about other’s comments or opinions. All of those are their business. Onward and upward my friend. What a homecoming ❤. Next video please 😅 God bless.
Good case for thorough pre-flight check. Even if it’s pre-assembled. Check your tail rotor direction. Hitting throttle hold in time takes practice too. Don’t beat yourself up. I like to give the rudder stick a bit of a gentle test when the heli is on the ground and light on the skids.
The gyro tail rotor direction was backwards It was trying to compensate the wrong way. Did you verify tail rotor direction? You shouldn’t have to as a RTF but still.
I suspect the tail rotor brushless motor had the connections crossed and was running backwards, it would be very inefficient and sucking instead of blowing. Throttle up it would have had no tail control. Many other videos on RUclips show this helicopter flying really nicely. But you guys are safe, that's all that matters really.
That is extremely possible!! It acted like it basically had no tail rotor, so either that or a bad ESC for the tail rotor.. such a simple little thing can bring down such an awesome helicopter 😢⚓️
I thought it sounded "wongky" a second before it took off!! To me, the binding process seems more tedious than usual. I think you got a bad item!! But WOW...that was a GREAT crash!! Thanks Saylors for your HONESTY!! This one will become a CLASSIC video!! Sorta sorry about the helicopter. 💟👍😘
I’ve watched the tail rotor spin on slow speed and then the tail rotor spin. The tail rotor is spinning in the wrong direction which means two of the wires from the motor to the esc need to be swapped to make it spin in the right direction.
Dude i'm so bummed that happened! I really wanted to see how that airframe performed.. Looking forward to a follow up video for sure! You and Abby are awesome!!!
Sorry man. That's heartbreaking. My guess is something with the tail rotor. The tail rotor counters the torque spin of the main rotor. And when it spins like it did, especially right after it lifted, leads me to believe it was the tail rotor.
Mr an Mrs Nate, There are Several utubers flying this one last 90 Days. . Good case for Out of Box Bad one. Update us. If Your not Flying Nate your Not Crashing, . Good to see you Counting Your Blessings during Aftermath, Good Man.. Mrs. Abby is a blessing for sure!
Looking at the video of it starting It looked like the tail motor was going the wrong way but if that was the case I think it would have spun on the ground, but maybe the heli was very heavy and so held in place by friction. If tail motor was going the right way it will be the gyro that was set up wrong. The tail rotor is installed the same way as other reviews and looks correct to me , I think it will just be the wires were wrong on tail motor.
I crashed my UMX timberX into a tree branch, where it stayed, 25ft up yesterday. Ive flown that plane 100s of times. But, stuff happens. And it seems to happen when you really don't want or expect it- like on a youtube review or while showing your dad what a good rc pilot you've become... whoops. Dad helped me get the plane down. And it's flying again- broke a wheel when the tree finally let it go. But, now it's on floats! 😊 Love your videos. Hope you get to evac some little army men out of an RC hot LZ with a Huey soon 👍
Hi I hope you let us Know what the seller says about it as I'm sure it was not your fault it seemed the tail dint respond to the flight ?? thanks for showing this
Thanks for posting this, after watching & watching it sure looks like there was a problem right off the start. It started to autorotate at lift off so I'd be interested in what the manufacturer said about it, it really looks like factory defect. Hopefully you can post a follow up video to keep us updated because $700 is a lot of money for some people and your experience with it could save others from a bad situation. Have a great day you guys and keep flying.
As an old school heli pilot. I always ensure that the servos controlling the rotors, tail, pitch and yaw are operating correctly. I also move the tail boom from side to side to ensure that the gyro is working correctly. This crash looks like a lack of power to tail rotor, or gyro error.
Like said in the comments, looks like the rotor was running backwards or the gyro was correcting in the wrong direction. Usually you can tell when it spins up, but if there is good grip on the ground it might not be obvious until its airborne. A slower lift off might have revealed it a little earlier and might have saved it. Might! Dont be hard on yourself. Also next time pull the main rotor blades and run it up to make sure the tail is correcting properly. Don't sweat it, I've screwed this up with more than 1 heli and numerous tricopters (same concept). Now whoever gets this will double check.
To be honest was surprised how calm you stayed ,and you handled it really well ,helicopters can be very very dangerous as you know would be interested to find out what caused it , didn't look like you did anything wrong at all . Thanks for the video 👍👍👍
tail motor is reversed,main blade rotates clockwise causes fuselage rotate anticlockwise, to counter that tail has to push on the other side but the reverse motor caused the system to counteract .
You are 100% correct with your diagnosis. The H1 flight controller is set up and calibrated via a PC download. It gives you the option to reverse the rudder servo to ensure the rudder is counteracting the main rotor. This should have been checked prior to flight, however it is not obvious to the untrained eye as with a fixed wing aircraft rudder.
@@MRKCDQ I'm having difficulty understanding you as your English is so poor. I think what you're trying to say is that my comment shows I'm smugly satisfied that he crashed, and that I'm so loftily superior that I never make mistakes myself. If you read my comment you'll realise that the opposite is true. I've crashed many times and made many mistakes and I always try to learn from those mistakes and listen to other opinions with an open mind. You may care to do the same.
I started flying RC 3 years ago after a very long hiatus of nearly 50 years. Military, family, work, and a whole host of things required my attention rather than RC. I found a somewhat local AMA club and latched onto an incredibly talented member who took me under his wing. I bought an Apprentice STS, flew about a dozen buddy box flights with him and have been a solo flier ever since. What I didn't tell him was that I purchased the GPS accessory and several weeks later he noticed the plane doing that telltale dance and reminded me that he had told me from the beginning not to buy it after I owned up having it. The result after the maiden takeoff with the GPS was akin to what Nate experienced and I could not disengage the GPS. It circled higher and higher then abruptly came in for a near full throttle landing that turned into multiple touch-and-go attempts. My mentor and another friend also tried to disengage the GPS amongst other control inputs with no luck. It finally aborted the landing and went straight into the largest tree in the woods. Not a whole lot of damage, except for the GPS ----I threw that as far as I could into the woods.
Personally I think it was a defective helicopter, this isn't your first time flying helicopters and you know what to expect when you first take off . It was definitely a problem with the tail rotor or what device controls it. My wife and I were commenting on a video we watched yesterday and you're actually a very good pilot. You need to do another video with helicopters. Anyway have a great day, Mike from Virginia Beach Virginia
I love helicopters, been flying them a few years now. A good tip before you fly, take off main blades... Then holding the helicopter throttle up, rotate heli, you should feel resistance from the tail.
It is very curious that the exact same thing happened with that helicopter on another rc channel, the advantage is that the other one fell on the grass and did not suffer as much damage; what this other youtuber did was reverse the propellers and the helicopter worked fine afterwards, regards.
Having crash a few RC helis myself and repaired them. I had one crash that resulted with the tail striking first. I replaced the tail boom and main blades. I went to fly the heli after repairing it a few weeks later. When I powered up and started to take off, it started to go into a crazy spin like yours. Much like you, I throttle down and watch it land hard on the pavement breaking the landing rail. After going over what happened and reading other peoples experience with heli crashes. For my situation, it was the tail motor that was no longer able to keep up with the speed of the main rotors. Once the main rotors went up in speed, the tail motor was no longer able to keep the heli stable. Thus causing the heli to spin in the direction of the rotor blades direction. For me, I had to replace the tail motor and that solved my problem. So my guess is, you have a defective tail motor on your heli. If not, it could be the programming on the speed controller too that has caused your heli to fail from the start.
that tail rotor isn't just there for looks. you need to start applying counter-rotational force before the skids even lose contact with the ground. whether it's a blade or a jet of air, you have to counter the rotational torque of the main blades and motor.
Thanks for sharing ! Don’t beat yourself up we all have made mistakes . I had a nasty crash with a wooden fast boat throttle jammed and it hit the ramp and launched itself out of the water . Damaged the hull , the rudder and prop. I was gutted but after the dust settled the problem was found , corrected, boat repaired and its sailing again. Helicopters are a law unto themselves I think you were just unlucky and there was an unknown malfunction . The main thing is nobody was hurt. I enjoy the channel looking forward to next video
Ok I can confirm your tail blade is spinning the wrong way, I played back your video in slow motion and can see the tail blade spin in the wrong direction. This means the wires on the tail motor are wrong, and this was most likely done at the factory. If anyone else watches this video please check your tail blade rotation before flight, it should spin CCW or spin up to the main blades looking from the right side of the helicopter.
You are absolutely right! I carefully checked the direction of rotation of the tail rotor and it is spinning in the opposite direction than it should be!. This is the reason for the anti-clockwise rotation of the helicopter body .
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The mechanics and electronics in these helicopters are all version 1 that's the issue, fly-wing
The GPS setting and calibration was probably set to some other countries. You should have reprogram it using a laptop and internet.
Also, after few turns of the tail rotor it stopped then it started to turn backwards.
why recomand a shitty heli?
I'm just not too far away from you outside of HTN, WV. I am a seasoned intermediate collective pitch rc hobbyist-worked my way up into the blade models to the 450 size collective etc. I was very excited about this chopper.....had 1 single great flight on the v3 huey/ 2nd flight was hovering to show my brother at a family function and all of a sudden chopper went left uncontrollably........home switch did not solve.....had to hit the off switch and it came down hard. I ordered new gear had a week later /repaired it as damage suprisingly wasn't too severe./ went thru the setup etc/all a go with gps and receiver prompts/colors/-the esc was very hot and no spool up......there are issues with this version/ so don't blame yourself. I believe there are issues with the esc as well as the connecting rods/degree of binding and popping off.... as some have pointed out. Too many issues so far reported.
Bummer, I am just glad you and the wife, are ok.
For all new to helis: You should mount the tail rotor without the main blades and verify you can yaw the heli correctly on the ground and also that the gyro corrects in the right direction. To test the gyro hold the heli in such a way that you don't get hit by the tailblades and yaw the heli by physically moving it. You should feel it resist the yaw. If the gyro accelerates the yaw then the correction is backwards.
🤙 Great advice, many thanks. I did this yesterday several times before taking up my Flywing Bell 206. Everything was textbook perfect for the maiden flight in 10 mph winds. Hopefully they give this one another whirl. Had a blast flying mine! 😎
RTF doesn’t mean RTF. Everything should be looked over before a maiden, and double checked. Also always perform a preflight check. Learn to fly the basics without the assistance of the flight controller just in case,😉.
This could of been prevented.
The important thing is that no one was injured.
Yeah I’m late to the party! Lol
Please keep this video on youtube and never take it off because of pressure from the company or anyone. $700 is a lot of money people have to spend their saving to get this helicopter. As buyers, we deserve to know the quality of the product we purchase, especially at this HIGH price.
...😂People don't need to know About it Cause after they crash they can get off hobby and we won't have to see them anymore because they don't belong in the hobby in the 1st place because they're posers
Guys don’t worry about the negative comments as you know everybody’s a EXPERT on the comments!! I’m glad you all didn’t get hurt, glad you’ve brought this to light! I’m constantly emailing manufacturers to test products and always shot down. I’ve been racing cars and off road trucks for over 30 plus years and I’ve seen it all. But glad you get to make a living doing what you love which in the end is all that matters.
It was definitely a teal rotor issue. Whether it was installed backwards at the factory or the motor was turning it the wrong way that’s what made it spin out of control.
GLAD you never took this down. Long time FW user. This V3 Huey got absolutely DESTROYED in the comments section of the product showcase video by MotionRC. I mean nuke'd..so bad that they REMOVED the video a week later. I wonder if A) FW asked them to remove it or B) its because they are seller of them. Good to see there is someone who still has some kind of a moral compass in this day and age.
I’ve always said Motion plays dirty, because they do. Interesting to know they’ll delete comments and even videos if they can’t handle the truth! Did you know this company has offered to pay us to remove the video? They’ve said they’d send another helicopter too, but only if we agreed to remove this. I think it’s important for people to know the truth, and so many will sell out or back down when challenged with doing the right thing. Like Motion! ⚓️
I have flown this helicopter a lot this week. You did everything correctly unfortunately looks like you had a defective one. It’s actually super fun. Whoever you got it from get a warranty and try again. If you get one that works it’s absolutely amazing.
Dude! It’s so good to hear from you! 😁😎❤️ I wasn’t even sure if you were still active on this channel! 👍💯 Really appreciate your input here. Makes me feel so much better ⚓️
I bought two these from motion RC and they're both we're junk , and a top that all they're all version 1
@@TheRcSaylors I’m not really active on MB anymore now that I’m full time at Motion RC. But sometimes I still comment with it. Yea we just got them in stock and I’ve been letting everyone try it at the field. Sorry to hear you got a bad one I highly recommend you get a replacement as this helicopter is awesome. I almost wonder if your tail rotor was wired backwards somehow from the factory. Hopefully you can get another one and give it a proper review because I think you would truly love this one.
They don't tell you that the mechanics and electronics on these helicopters, when you buy them are version 1 not version 3
I got one where the tail rotor was wired backwards, luckily because of your video I was able to catch it and rewire it😮😅
I did not see you do any pre-flight checks. Most important is to check the response of the gyro - in your case its looks like you had the tail response reversed. You also need to check the gyro response for aileron and pitch. Again, its absolutely the most important thing when maidening a helicopter of this size.
I am no heli expert but it looks like the tail motor was wired in the wrong direction. The good news is that you can learn from every crash. I think in the future it might make sense to test the motor direction before installing the main blades. I know how bad it can feel but don't be discouraged.
The factory should have made sure the wires were right for the tail motor but it doesn't hurt to check. BTW, my hindsight is 20/20.
Don't worry. You did everything right. The tail motor failed. Not your fault. I own several Flywing FW450Ls. I own that one and crashed several of them.
Flywing has quality control issues. I fly them often and have crashed several times due to manufacturers defects. No worries.
All you could do is flip the off switch once back down. I crashed the Bell 206 when gps failed. I delayed a second to flip that switch too. Still repairing it now.
No worries.
Captain Drone is flying both the mark 1 and mark 2 versions of this drone on his channel posted today, they look pretty good in the air.
That was a tail rotor failure i had the same problem with the fw450 the tail boom wasn't fully pushed in so the motor didn't spin.But in your case the motor was spinning so either it was going the wrong way or the motor wasn't producing enough thrust.
Tail rotor was turning the wrong way, it's motor was mis-wired.
Evidence:
As seen at 02:52, the tail rotor was turning the other way around. Not only because by turning the way it did it had its top blade moving forward and bottom blade moving aft (contrary to what is generally used), but especially because turning this way the blades are obviously turning backwards, i.e., the blades are advancing leading edge-first, as can be seen by the blade shape at 06:14. The tail rotor motor is wired incorrectly.
To fix it: if it is a brushed motor, swap its two wires. If it is brushless, swap any two of its 3 wires.
Regarding the crash itself, if you did the connection yourself, then that's that. If, however, the motor came pre-wirerd, then someone at the factory is to blame and you're in for a replacement.
Here's one check that could be done prior to flying those ready-built helis for the first time: remove ALL of the rotor blades (main and tail), and briefly spin up the motors, verifying that they in fact turn in their appropriate directions. Mistakes do happen, and this simple check can save the day.
Dude, gotta be careful. As an insurance professional, AMA is an excess policy not primary. You fly into something or blow someone's car up, it's your homeowners, umbrella or whatever policies you may have first, not the AMA.
Back in 2008 over the winter I built a stunt plane with a O.S. 40 on it. I have everything dialed in, go to the field do a range check with my old now 75 MHZ radio. Took off great then got weird and went straight up and straight down and disintegrated. I forgot to put my antenna out. You guys are great. Keep having fun.
Man. I’m really sorry to hear about this crash! But also really appreciate you sharing it because it lets me know that I’m not alone! Thank you 🙏❤️😎💯⚓️
I would like to know if u found out what caused this heli to go out of control and crash because im interested in puchasing one but now im scared to its alot of money for a malfunction like that
I appreciate you guys showing this and glad you're both safe. You should do a follow-up to let us know how support with the company over this goes. Do you show them a video and see what they say? How do they handle the incident for customers?
Sorry for your crash. Something was defiantly wrong with the tail (not spinning or turning in the wrong direction). I’m not sure what you did or checked before this flight, but you should never take off that quickly on a maiden flight. I’ve been flying RC helis for over 30 years, and I always take off very slowly on my first flight to make sure everything is set up correctly. I will admit, I’ve had the same issue you did with 1 or 2 helis on their maidens, where I had the tail gyro correcting in the wrong direction, but I was only light on the skids when I realized it was about to spin out of control, so I could stop it before anything bad happened.
I think you might have missed the orientation/initialization procedure for the h1 controller. Well since it's crashed maybe you can get a kensen receiver fix it and learn the prodeure to set it up for your dsmx radio. You could also strap it down to a table ir build a test stand to confirm your setup is good. Thanks for sharing your experience. I've been looking at getting one of these myself. I've also watched John Salt's setup on the the h1 receiver with his radiomaster setup. He makes some good points.
OK I just saw captain drone do a review on this. If you have a version 3 you didn't do anything wrong. They may not have correctly oriented the gps at the factory. He was using a version 3 and said it didn't require the orientation procedure out of the box.
Yeah it looked like the tail rotor is spinning opposite its started and stopped and then started again when you powered up. But I think it was spinning in the wrong direction. There was absolutely no tail rotor authority
yea 100% what it was
Nothing beats HONESTY!
Thank you! ❤️🙏💯⚓️
Man, that was bananas. I'm glad you are both doing well. Helicopters 🚁 are so scary when they are running good. When this happens people can get injured very badly. You can so hear the disappointment and sadness in your voice. Never really heard you rattled before. Again, glad you are all ok..
Tail rotor motor is turning in the wrong direction. Its motor is mis-wired.
We are at mercy of quality control of all of these manufacturers from overseas, these things can and will happen and you took safeguards that you could take, dont beat yourself up.
Nate dont take this the wrong way as its ment as a compliment... I love how genuinely goofy, realistic, honest and how "unprofessional" you are. U represent the ppl and you make mistakes, u laugh and giggle and show the real side of this hobby, where 💩 and 😂 does happen. If i was gona spend a day flying with any RUclipsrs it would be with you and obv Captain Brian Philips 🍻
"Keep filming" best quote ever....
Boy, I’m glad I saw this, and read the comments, I was just about to pull the handle on buying this. To read that Flywing and Motion won’t cover this, can’t afford $700 defects.
It seemed to behave like the tail gyro part of your flybarless system was reversed. That could be a flaw caused at the factory when they set it up. I don't believe this was pilot error, as I've seen you fly helis before with no issues.
Hey Nate and Abby! Thanks for posting this video. You guys keep it real, that's what's great about your channel! I feel your pain Nate!
Captain Drone RUclips channel posted his flight video of this helicopter this morning and it sounded differently than the one you were flying. Probably doesn't mean a thing but I did notice a difference.
Please post a follow-up after you do the root cause analysis and if the company provides you any support. ty
Elecrical failure on ESC and motor were caused from power still on when it tipped over and hit the ground and Nate you were right about everything else except not hitting kill switch other then that thank you for posting the whole video
God Bless Take Care
I ordered one of these from RCGoing then watched your video. That made me very cautious when mine came and I started it up. Needless to say, I went super slow and double checked everything. My flight experience was far different than yours, but I have to say that your video made me go slow and do things correctly. So... from that aspect, your video had a positive impact on my experience. For years I was an editor for a couple of digital car magazines. I was always amazed by the keyboard warriors that never had anything positive to add, nor did they put out any content of their own. The people that hate on this or other planes because they aren't "real" helicopters or whatever... do nothing more than drive people away from the hobby. I appreciate that you put out content that is interesting and helpful. If it helps anyone that gets involved in the hobby to have fun... then it is worth it. Keep putting out more content. There are plenty of us that enjoy and benefit from what you do.
My suspicion is something wrong with the tail rotor motor or ESC, and the tail rotor ESC was the source of the smoke. The battery, from what I could see in the video, did not look like it had suffered catastrophic failure. As others have said, the way it was spinning was indicative of insufficient tail rotor power to counteract the main rotor torque. When it was sitting on the ground, the friction of the skids on the pavement was enough to keep it from spinning, but when you lifted off, there was no longer any resistance.
Nate, I'm exiting the beginner phase and maturing into an intermediate pilot. What's got me there was consistent sim time. Daily if you can. It's very difficult and frustrating in the beginning but if you stick with it, you will get better. Starting out, the sim is more important than any model you buy. Get decent there first and then you'll have much better results in real life.
I agree with the sim for helicopters especially! I trashed my first heli. Now I only fly helis on the sim until I am 100% confident with he real thing!
Crashes suck! Crashing on youtube sucks more. Thanks for posting. Great video and many ppl have learned a lot.
I’m so glad you guys are safe. That’s the most important thing. In the end, getting paid to play with toys is the life. Keep up the great work. 😊
Its a scale feature you must have pressed the "mayday mayday were going down" button. Clever how they did the smoke at the end.
Not your fault. I started helicopter flying with the small ones that are ready to fly. The experience has been very much the same as yours. Then I built my first T-Rex(450) and that's when things started to get much easier. The easiest thing to fly is my T-Rex 700 Pro HV. Built and adjusted by myself and flown on its back and loops with no effort. Believe me.... I was blown away by how much better they handle.
Thanks for the video, and your safe to live and fly another day
Thank you very much for taking us with you on this tumultuous journey.
I love this video! Thank you for sharing it.
Tail motor defiantly wired backwards. Watch at 2:49 when it starts you can see it is going backward. I guess RTF doesn't always mean RTF. Thank you for putting this out. If nothing else it serves as a reminder for all of us in the hobby that even if it is ready to fly we have to check them. I know that i would have done the same as you, and I have. Grab a new RTF, throw batteries in, Quick control check and GO. Thanks again for keeping it real, and God Bless You and your Family.
Looks like no counter torque was applied or certainly not enough.
I hope you contact the company and they send you another one.i was so disappointed for you and it definitely was not your fault!
Glad you both were safe.
Sorry for your loss! I lost a quadcopter I loved a year ago. I panicked and hit the disarm instead of GPS rescue, completely my fault. It plagued me because I really liked that quadcopter. It may be recoverable however it went down in tall thorny brush, a tick infested area and I don't want to risk being attacked by ticks. Nate don't be so hard on yourself, I've recently had some bad days of RC however not all days go like this but some do. Wishing y'all the best!
HI, engineer and private ilot here. 1:51 From plan view (i.e. from the top) the rotor is supposed to spin clockwise. In doing so, the resultant torque will try to turn the tail anticlockwise. To counteract the torque, the tail rotor must try to blow air. 0:42 from the angle of the blades, to blow air, the rotor must turn anticlockwise. However, at 2:53 we can see the tail rotor spin clockwise. So, not only the tail rotor NOT counteracting the torque, but also contributing to the torque. Therefore, this is 100% NOT your fault, but I believe the manufacturer miswired the tail rotor. This is a manufacturing defect so I think if you contact the manufacturer, they should be obliged to either repair it, or send you a new unit. Q.E.D.
You are of course, quite correct, however it seems to me (watching the video frame by frame) that although tail does in fact start initially in the wrong direction it then appears to stop 2:53 and restart in the correct direction. Not easy to see though because of the speed of rotation, camera shutter speed and playback framerate. It may just be an optical effect. Clearly though, something wasn't right with the tail or gyro.
@@stuartthurstan Yes, it started in the wrong direction. That it seemed to spin again the correct direction I believe is an optical illusion. A correctly built rotor, propeller or turbine system should not be able to spin both directions.
So glad to know it wasn’t my fault! I was really worried for a bit, so greatly appreciate your feedback! Also, much respect knowing both an engineer and private pilot might watch our videos every now and then!! Thanks so much for the input and for watching! 👍💯❤️😎⚓️
I also suspect the tail rotor was wired wrong direction.
What a BUMMER! Looked like a pretty decent looking model too.
Your tail rotor was spinning the wrong direction. You have to have to make double sure with your tail rotor first before lift off. Cuz i seen that on many of helicopter crashes cuz of tail rotor was spinning wrong direction. I can see the trail prop is on correct, but the rotor is spinning wrong. The RPM speed went out of control when center rotor or tail rotor is spinning wrong way. I'm so glad you guys are okay though! I'm sorry about this helicopter 🚁
I hope to see take 2 of this video when the manufacturer sends you a replacement!
Wow! I’ve been away for a while. This was a total shocker being my first video back. Thank the good Lord you were both safe from any injuries. I’m definitely not a seasoned Heli pilot, but have had a few in the air. Almost seems to me to have been a gyro or tail issue???? Never worry about other’s comments or opinions. All of those are their business. Onward and upward my friend. What a homecoming ❤. Next video please 😅 God bless.
Hey thanks for keeping the camera rolling guys. What a bummer for you Nate!. I’m sure you’ll get it next time.
Good case for thorough pre-flight check. Even if it’s pre-assembled. Check your tail rotor direction. Hitting throttle hold in time takes practice too. Don’t beat yourself up. I like to give the rudder stick a bit of a gentle test when the heli is on the ground and light on the skids.
Well said. I wonder if this could inspire him to build a test stsnd.
The gyro tail rotor direction was backwards
It was trying to compensate the wrong way.
Did you verify tail rotor direction? You shouldn’t have to as a RTF but still.
That was soooo fricking cool!!! At least minimal damage was done! I love ❤ watching this your videos!! 👍
I suspect the tail rotor brushless motor had the connections crossed and was running backwards, it would be very inefficient and sucking instead of blowing. Throttle up it would have had no tail control. Many other videos on RUclips show this helicopter flying really nicely. But you guys are safe, that's all that matters really.
That is extremely possible!! It acted like it basically had no tail rotor, so either that or a bad ESC for the tail rotor.. such a simple little thing can bring down such an awesome helicopter 😢⚓️
Seems like something with tail was defective. I was really looking forward to see this one fly too!
Agreed -- I was waiting with baited breath to see that bird in the air. 😲
I thought it sounded "wongky" a second before it took off!! To me, the binding process seems more tedious than usual. I think you got a bad item!! But WOW...that was a GREAT crash!! Thanks Saylors for your HONESTY!! This one will become a CLASSIC video!! Sorta sorry about the helicopter. 💟👍😘
Any second part video with the aftermath on this matter? That would make an interesting video! 😁👍🏾
Hold ur head high ur one of the best rc channels on RUclips
I’ve watched the tail rotor spin on slow speed and then the tail rotor spin. The tail rotor is spinning in the wrong direction which means two of the wires from the motor to the esc need to be swapped to make it spin in the right direction.
Factory error...? Wiring I'll guess many more affected but not pretested?
Dude i'm so bummed that happened! I really wanted to see how that airframe performed.. Looking forward to a follow up video for sure! You and Abby are awesome!!!
Sorry man. That's heartbreaking. My guess is something with the tail rotor. The tail rotor counters the torque spin of the main rotor. And when it spins like it did, especially right after it lifted, leads me to believe it was the tail rotor.
Love ths vid. Keep giving us Crash vids. More exciting to watch!!!
Mr an Mrs Nate, There are Several utubers flying this one last 90 Days. .
Good case for Out of Box Bad one. Update us. If Your not Flying Nate your Not Crashing, . Good to see you Counting Your Blessings during Aftermath, Good Man.. Mrs. Abby is a blessing for sure!
Looking at the video of it starting It looked like the tail motor was going the wrong way but if that was the case I think it would have spun on the ground, but maybe the heli was very heavy and so held in place by friction.
If tail motor was going the right way it will be the gyro that was set up wrong.
The tail rotor is installed the same way as other reviews and looks correct to me , I think it will just be the wires were wrong on tail motor.
I crashed my UMX timberX into a tree branch, where it stayed, 25ft up yesterday. Ive flown that plane 100s of times. But, stuff happens. And it seems to happen when you really don't want or expect it- like on a youtube review or while showing your dad what a good rc pilot you've become... whoops. Dad helped me get the plane down. And it's flying again- broke a wheel when the tree finally let it go. But, now it's on floats! 😊
Love your videos. Hope you get to evac some little army men out of an RC hot LZ with a Huey soon 👍
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Your comment means more to me than you probably know!! Thank you!
Ouch! Glad nobody got hurt. Too bad it crashed and burned; especially a nice looking $700 model.
I've got one, havent had any problems, apart from the assembly of the tail boom, the electrical connection was upside down. Spent an hour fixing it.
Hi I hope you let us Know what the seller says about it as I'm sure it was not your fault it seemed the tail dint respond to the flight ?? thanks for showing this
Thanks for posting this, after watching & watching it sure looks like there was a problem right off the start. It started to autorotate at lift off so I'd be interested in what the manufacturer said about it, it really looks like factory defect. Hopefully you can post a follow up video to keep us updated because $700 is a lot of money for some people and your experience with it could save others from a bad situation.
Have a great day you guys and keep flying.
As an old school heli pilot. I always ensure that the servos controlling the rotors, tail, pitch and yaw are operating correctly. I also move the tail boom from side to side to ensure that the gyro is working correctly. This crash looks like a lack of power to tail rotor, or gyro error.
You absolutely put it together correctly. I'm sorry that this happened. Love your channel.👍👍👍
I'm sorry to see that happened. I have one. I flew it a few times, no problem. Now, the esc is toasted. I'm waiting for a replacement part.
Like said in the comments, looks like the rotor was running backwards or the gyro was correcting in the wrong direction. Usually you can tell when it spins up, but if there is good grip on the ground it might not be obvious until its airborne. A slower lift off might have revealed it a little earlier and might have saved it. Might! Dont be hard on yourself. Also next time pull the main rotor blades and run it up to make sure the tail is correcting properly. Don't sweat it, I've screwed this up with more than 1 heli and numerous tricopters (same concept). Now whoever gets this will double check.
For the younger physics students, this is a great demonstration of Newton's 3rd law. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Abby and Nate y'all rock! Love the channel and content! Peace
Sorry to see the end result being a crash! would love to see the outcome. Don't believe this is your fault
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Wowza... put that on the DO NOT BUY list. Thank you for the video as always!
Don't listen to 'em bro. Chit happens.... 👍
To be honest was surprised how calm you stayed ,and you handled it really well ,helicopters can be very very dangerous as you know would be interested to find out what caused it , didn't look like you did anything wrong at all . Thanks for the video 👍👍👍
Sucks to see, happy you are ok. Hopefully it is not damaged beyond repair and you can try again.
tail motor is reversed,main blade rotates clockwise causes fuselage rotate anticlockwise, to counter that tail has to push on the other side but the reverse motor caused the system to counteract .
You are 100% correct with your diagnosis. The H1 flight controller is set up and calibrated via a PC download. It gives you the option to reverse the rudder servo to ensure the rudder is counteracting the main rotor. This should have been checked prior to flight, however it is not obvious to the untrained eye as with a fixed wing aircraft rudder.
@@duncan649 you need to write in the tittle that is your fault, who never crash something ??? and sometime very more expensive than 700
@@MRKCDQ I'm having difficulty understanding you as your English is so poor. I think what you're trying to say is that my comment shows I'm smugly satisfied that he crashed, and that I'm so loftily superior that I never make mistakes myself. If you read my comment you'll realise that the opposite is true. I've crashed many times and made many mistakes and I always try to learn from those mistakes and listen to other opinions with an open mind. You may care to do the same.
I started flying RC 3 years ago after a very long hiatus of nearly 50 years. Military, family, work, and a whole host of things required my attention rather than RC. I found a somewhat local AMA club and latched onto an incredibly talented member who took me under his wing. I bought an Apprentice STS, flew about a dozen buddy box flights with him and have been a solo flier ever since. What I didn't tell him was that I purchased the GPS accessory and several weeks later he noticed the plane doing that telltale dance and reminded me that he had told me from the beginning not to buy it after I owned up having it. The result after the maiden takeoff with the GPS was akin to what Nate experienced and I could not disengage the GPS. It circled higher and higher then abruptly came in for a near full throttle landing that turned into multiple touch-and-go attempts. My mentor and another friend also tried to disengage the GPS amongst other control inputs with no luck. It finally aborted the landing and went straight into the largest tree in the woods. Not a whole lot of damage, except for the GPS ----I threw that as far as I could into the woods.
I know there is bettery out there for 700 bucks. Not your falt. No tail rotor for sure!
Thanks for plugging AMA.
Personally I think it was a defective helicopter, this isn't your first time flying helicopters and you know what to expect when you first take off . It was definitely a problem with the tail rotor or what device controls it. My wife and I were commenting on a video we watched yesterday and you're actually a very good pilot. You need to do another video with helicopters. Anyway have a great day, Mike from Virginia Beach Virginia
NOOOOO, THAT'S HEARTBREAKING!😥😥
So sorry for you guys...
Sorry for your loss. . .
nice scale heli, maybe it is good for display only. I'll wait for the next version V4 hopefully they fix these issues
I love helicopters, been flying them a few years now. A good tip before you fly, take off main blades... Then holding the helicopter throttle up, rotate heli, you should feel resistance from the tail.
Looks like tail rotor failure indeed.
One of the saddest part of learning, next time double or triple check everything and also, even teachers can't delete errors! Happy RC Flying
Always check your tail authority before collecting.
Nate keep us informed,that was a malfunction for sure. Love your channel,you guys seem like old friends to me lol Keep up the good work.
It is very curious that the exact same thing happened with that helicopter on another rc channel, the advantage is that the other one fell on the grass and did not suffer as much damage; what this other youtuber did was reverse the propellers and the helicopter worked fine afterwards, regards.
I've heard of problems with the FW450 V1 Kevin Talbot had the same experience in his review
Having crash a few RC helis myself and repaired them. I had one crash that resulted with the tail striking first. I replaced the tail boom and main blades. I went to fly the heli after repairing it a few weeks later. When I powered up and started to take off, it started to go into a crazy spin like yours. Much like you, I throttle down and watch it land hard on the pavement breaking the landing rail. After going over what happened and reading other peoples experience with heli crashes. For my situation, it was the tail motor that was no longer able to keep up with the speed of the main rotors. Once the main rotors went up in speed, the tail motor was no longer able to keep the heli stable. Thus causing the heli to spin in the direction of the rotor blades direction. For me, I had to replace the tail motor and that solved my problem. So my guess is, you have a defective tail motor on your heli. If not, it could be the programming on the speed controller too that has caused your heli to fail from the start.
Could this inspire a heli test stand build?
that tail rotor isn't just there for looks. you need to start applying counter-rotational force before the skids even lose contact with the ground. whether it's a blade or a jet of air, you have to counter the rotational torque of the main blades and motor.
I just checked mine. Looks like your tail rotor was running backwards. Manufacturers error!!
Thanks for sharing ! Don’t beat yourself up we all have made mistakes . I had a nasty crash with a wooden fast boat throttle jammed and it hit the ramp and launched itself out of the water . Damaged the hull , the rudder and prop. I was gutted but after the dust settled the problem was found , corrected, boat repaired and its sailing again. Helicopters are a law unto themselves I think you were just unlucky and there was an unknown malfunction . The main thing is nobody was hurt. I enjoy the channel looking forward to next video
Ok I can confirm your tail blade is spinning the wrong way, I played back your video in slow motion and can see the tail blade spin in the wrong direction. This means the wires on the tail motor are wrong, and this was most likely done at the factory. If anyone else watches this video please check your tail blade rotation before flight, it should spin CCW or spin up to the main blades looking from the right side of the helicopter.
You are absolutely right! I carefully checked the direction of rotation of the tail rotor and it is spinning in the opposite direction than it should be!. This is the reason for the anti-clockwise rotation of the helicopter body
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