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This is awesome! I love the Huey too but right now I have my hands full with my own C189 fly away issue. I've been trying to get warranty from Aliexpress seller Ace RC Store and they have just argued its all user error. I have resorted to finding information from RCGroups forums to learn others had fly away issues and how to repair replace items to get the C189 MD500 back flying. When I saw this video I was hoping you might have a similar follow up video with your fly away issue with the C189?
I just would not think to check cross wiring on any helicopter, not to mention one that cost $700.00! But now I know better, and have learned something here after watching your video's, don't take for granted that the wiring is hooked up correctly to the motors coming from the factory with the QC stamp on it, check that wiring out first before you start up that helicopter, or otherwise it may cost you in damages to the helicopter, or serious injury to yourself, period.
Although I have no interest in this bird, as a consumer of products (with my hard-earned money), I thank you for not succumbing to the financial incentive/pressure of FLY WING to remove the original video. It's called accountability & responsibility, China. I've been a fan of your videos for a while now, Saylors, and you've earned a lot more respect with this review.
Thank you for NOT taking down the crashed UH-1 video on youtube, and Please keep it there for everyone to see. It was factory defect. But we, buyers, deserve to know the facts. Also, I hope Fly Wing send you a new one at no cost. That is the right thing to do.
Wonder how many people just thought it was their fault and were out $700. This makes me sad. A $700. loss could turn someone away from the hobby, it would be devastating for me.
They are not out nearly 700 dollars. You could fix that for less than 100. You wont make it very far in this hobby without learning how to repair and setup a heli, plus by the time they have it fixed they will have learned enough about rc helicopters to avoid having a similar crash.
@@Southwickspecialsthat doesn't change the fact that a beginner might think they f*cked up and it was their fault. See, you are using a "straw man" argument, by changing the subject to the money loss, when the subject mentioned is the fact that the heli flies wack out of the box. Please stop confusing the issue. Who cares about how much money it is? The issue is that a newbie buying the heli would get turned off due to the heli breaking before they even fly it. You sound like a politician with your argument that isn't based at all on the topic being discussed. The cost is a tertiary issue, we (the adults in the comments) are discussing how s*itty of an experience this would be to a new hobbyist. Please leave your snake oil and your straw men at the door when you enter actual logical adult conversations that you aren't prepared to argue about. Here's you: "oh, this heli crashed out of the box, but that's okay because it'll only cost $100 to fix. I'm a big f** †d*ot, durrrrrr" 👆🏽 That's what it sounds like you're saying. Do you wanna be that guy? Because it's obvious to the rest of us what you're doing. I just hope you're aware of what you sound like to normal people.
Glad to see you got to maiden a second helicopter. If I was new to helicopters, I would not have known the rotational direction of the tail rotor. I would have assumed it was setup correctly, right out of the box.
I’m on the “if it’s ready to fly go fly it” team. Y’all got me back on rc planes and that’s exactly how I treated it myself. Got a UMX plane, set it up, and took it out. Went great!
I own several RTF heli's... FlyWing, Blade, mainly. Once unboxed, BEFORE I go out n start flying anything, I go over the ENTIRE vehicle! This hobby is also an investment that I spend my hard earned money on. But nothing man made is flawless. These helicopters are VERY dangerous and a preflight checklist should be completely prior to every flight as well. Your last video could have had a very different outcome, please be safe. I love your videos. 🙏👍
Free bit of good engineering and marketing advice from myself to the manufacturer. I’ve been flying RC Heli’s for 30 years. This machine is a good effort for $700 despite what some on here say. The best way to improve its appeal even more and therefore sell more is to move to an anti torque system that uses traditional variable pitch tail blades instead of fixed pitch+variable speed. The rear motor can still be used for this, it doesn’t have to be driven by shaft or belt. The controller will need to be modified slightly and a servo used to drive the pitch slider. This will stop the “bee in a jam jar” buzzing sound from the tail rotor and vastly improve the scale appeal. I would also paint it in NATO olive or a slightly darker green. This would be the icing on the cake for what is a lovely little Huey. Well done.
I always try to check the controls on any RTF/BNF, but the one I ALWAYS check on helis specifically, is the tail and collective direction. Take the main props off and run it up, check the yaw control and make sure it's rotating the tail in the correct direction, then I usually give it a nudge with my foot (or just hold it in my hand for small helis) at low throttle to check the gyro is also working in the correct orientation. You shouldn't HAVE to, but taking less than 30 seconds to do this check is worth it. There's so many things that could go unnoticed in a basic QA test, and 3 phase motors (brushless) having their wires crossed definitely wouldn't be noticeable without an initial run up.
Outstanding!! Congratulations Nate. I told ya. I have that helicopter myself. That first crash was due to a wrongly wired tail rotor. Good for you. Glad to see you try it again
Glad you stayed with your moral compass. I enjoy your reviews and the fact that if something isn't right you are willing to show that. This is what keeps me coming back to watch.
People always try to get away with: "You are responsible only". So if I am responsible for a pre flight test, why the seller is not? "RTF" means "RTF". Otherwise it shouldn't be printed on the box!
Appreciate your honesty guy’s and producing a honest review and the fact that things do go wrong and dealing with it in a professional manner. Keep it up.. 👏
That says something about a company when they find out that it wasn't just a random problem, and fixes and rectifies the problem, and hopefully they will up their quality control to prevent further issues.
Im a hela heli guy, I have 5 $2k to $3k 700 sized heli's and multiple others. RTF means RTF you should be able to toss a battery in it and go. That being said with heli's it is easy to avoid fatal mistakes. When its spooling on the ground only spool it to like 1/4 throttle and check rudder movement "on the ground" rotate the heli and make sure its working in the right direction. People that complained at you are just just mindless internet keyboard warriors i call them, tons of them on forums too, your a newbie to advanced heli's, this one isnt even advanced and it bit ya in the butt. It happens and is literally the only way to learn. I have many odd comments on my youtube. I read through yours. You are a nice guy. Im not!! lolol. If someone tosses shade I rip em up till they stop typing back haha. So glad you were able to keep a level head on those comments. Moving on to price I'd like to see this heli more in the $500 range. $700 is pushing the price of a fully outfitted 550 570 600 SAB goblin, Oxy 5 Meg, and so on and those are much much higher end more capable heli's. Also assisted flight comes with a lot of high end Flight Controllers, it's just most of us that have been in the game a while dont use it. I use Spirit Flybarless and it can do all that fancy auto-leveling, inverted hovering and so on all by itself. The only difference is they arent RTF you have to know it all and program it all. Flywing is good for exactly what it is. Entry level mid range heli's. They are like buying a blade/horizon heli. Great beginner heli's. If I dont build the thing from scratch I dont check every nut and bolt. People that say they do this dont check every single one I dont care what they say. No one I mean NO ONE takes apart a RTF or RTR 100% and checks 100% of the nuts/bolts. If they did they wouldnt be buying a RTF. Normal heli's like what I have you touch and build every single bolt, thats different you have to lol. If you dont have to, sorry those people are lying they did not 100% disassemble their RTR's, they just checked all the bolts they could see, and sorry man if your gonna state about checking bolts you better check them all if you are so high and mighty to make that comment lol.
im not gonna strip a rtf helicopter down to check it was built properly, thats crazy ,plus im probably not going notice if wiring was wrong , glad you left video up,because i like this helicopter and want one. 👍👍👍😀
It's okay who would have thought that the tail rotor was wired backwards? It wasn't your fault and not a normal thing you would check. This video was great as usual Saylor Team!
Even if you checked, you would not have known they reversed the wires. Nothing you could have done As long as the manufacturer stands by their product, mistakes aren't that bad.
Well done for sticking by your principles and keeping the original video up. It does look like a great RC helicopter, but they should have replaced it for free, without any conditions on the video. I’m in a country where our exchange rate is 20 for $1. So this helicopter would cost me ZAR14,000.00, which is a month’s disability income. I definitely wouldn’t be polite if it happened to me. Thank you for the great channel. Blessings.
Good follow up video! Glad this maiden was a success. While I do not trust anyone else to make sure my heli is setup correctly, I get it that new pilots assume rtf means just that, Ready to Fly. Unfortunately thats often not the case and can lead to a dangerous situation.
Just imagine somebody else buying it and it crashing because it wasn't wired properly from the factory. How would the customer service react. 700 dollars and this happening. If this is the quality control then it's not even worth 70 dollars.
The most important thing to do when starting up a heli, be it new or not, is to get it light on the skids, and GRADUALLY move each control to ascertain the correct movement. You will soon see if it’s right or wrong BEFORE you commit to take off. I know an RTF should be connected up properly from the factory, but you’ve proved this is not 100% true, and you were very lucky no one was hurt.
I have always liked hueys and been wanting to learn how to fly ,but been scared, I may pull the trigger and get me one of these. THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING YALL!
Dude.. even if you checked it out preflight, could've easily missed a tail rotor spinning the wrong way.. but hell , I'm dyslexic lol 😉 . MAN that thing looks awesome!! Wish it didn't cost quite so much.
I'm glad to hear that it was a defect, not your flying. And companies should realize that Murphy's Law applies to them, too. Own up to the problem, and make good on fixing things with the customers, and you will have a customer for life! I never flew on a Bell UH-1, as the Canadian Armed Forces had their own version, the Bell UH-1N, aka The Twin Huey, which had two turbine engines rather than the one the UH-1 had. As much of Canada is bare open spaces, and it gets frightfully cold during the winter, we have had a policy that our military aircraft, especially those who might be involved with search and rescue, must have at least two engines, and be able to fly on one in an emergency. I had a few flights in Twin Huey's when I was in my teens in Air Cadets. I'll never forget my first flight. They loaded a bunch of us into a Huey through the big doors on both sides, had us sit and strap down. They told us all to make sure that our multi-point harnesses were tight, and then we the took off...without closing the side doors!!! After gaining some altitude, pilot pushed the collective well forward and then made a tight left hand turn. I remember looking out the left out the open door...and seeing the earth below me, and turning to the right, and seeing nothing but sky out the right door! I can say without shame I wasn't the only one pulling on the seatbelts to make sure they were *really* tight! After I got used to it, I found it exhilarating flying with nothing between you and the sky around you something you never experience in commercial flying.
As a long time FW user, I can sure you with every bone in my body, that you are not an idiot. What you experienced is typical FW. The customer is the R&D and the QC all wrapped into one - on your dime. The Huey V4 with more realistic olive drab paint, red tailplanes, and optional 3D printed scale flybar stabilizer and drag links as well as convex blades should be on the market soon. Probably next month or so. If you are flying in GPS mode, make sure you know how to switch to 3D mode quickly in case you lose a satellite. Remember, its connecting to the CCP's Beidou system, not USA.
I have never commented on any RUclips videos before, but this video has prompted me to do so. I just want to give you an "atta boy!". Good for you and your wife for sticking with your morals and doing what is right. We all need more people like you in the world! Big thumbs up and massive respect!
IT is a very cool heli, but I feel like 700 is a bit steep for what it is. There are other decent and well reviewed scale helis on Ban ggood that are 1/4 the price.
For 700 bucks I would have thought they would give these a quick factory once over, QC must have been on lunch for yours. Yeah you should probably check still, also I'm surprised the lack of yaw didn't show itself on the ground (whenever I've screwed up yaw correction direction when setting up a heli, tri ,or quad, I noticed before it took off or at least just after and got it down immediately) to be fair it's a little more difficult to see how the tail will react with a brushless tail. With a mechanical it's easy. Tricopter same. But brushless I think the best way is to learn what way it needs to correct, pull the main blades off and rev it up to see how it moves.
Saw the original heli flight. There was obviously something set up incorrectly out of the box. I did not comment as it is very difficult to determine issues with a model unless one is there in person. I was also awaiting the followup you guys almost always do. You don't need another armchair heli pilot making uninformed remarks. It is really bad form for a company to request you take a video down rather than reaching out. Flywing and/orBanggood should have contacted you imediately to troubleshoot the problem and arranged a replacement. Overall it would have been in their best interest. Glad you finally got one that is set up correctly. I have a standard Flywing 450L on order and am definitely going to check it out thoroughly before the maiden. Thanks for the vids.
Here’s a tip from a 30 year flier. Don’t be so rushed and concentrate! During your spin up, go slower before lift off, testing your tail rotor fan pressure and direction of throw first will tell you if your tail rudder pressure is correct for left stick, left turn or left stick right turn. Don’t be so anxious to impress your YT 😊audience! Just be satisfied with improving your heli skills.
from what you have shown here I would definitely buy one of these and give it a thorough check first. I've watched your guys channel for a long time and I know you're no chump when it comes to RC helicopters and that you would not have made such a mistake so I'm really glad to see that that was all worked out. great video and great flying as usual keep it up you two
Every flight, I check the throw directions of every surface. If it's a helicopter as large as this and it was my first flight I would hold it over my head and throttle it up just a bit to verify everything. I have had a few accidents and learned that the best thing to do is verify all surfaces move in the correct direction and that includes a brief throttle up with the model in hand or on the ground before take off. I have installed the wrong direction prop on some things, I have accidentally reversed servos and brushless wires. You don't have to spend 20 minutes doing this. If you get used to it, you know everything is working within a minute before flight. I helped a beginner land his airplane when he installed the ailerons in reverse, and taught him how to do this before every flight. He will never forget that day. If you have an airplane with dual aileron servos and flip the wires when you install the wings you know exactly how easy this can happen. But any model ready to fly or not, please take 1 minute and verify the controls are doing the correct thing. I have saved many accidents by doing this simple thing. And a brief throttle up with model in hand often helps as well. It's very easy to accidentally reverse a control surface. That said the first model smoked... that is not something checking the surface would have helped with. It's never good when smoke is coming out! Good on you for keeping the video up!
If they put quality control first that chopper is worth buying. A company should never ask to take a bad video review down that's the company's mistake. I would buy this. It Flys great.
Flight check ...for every flight . Real or rc even then you can miss something. You learn more from your mistakes ! No one or company is perfect 🤠 great flight 🚁 keep it real !
A heli that size needs to be thoroughly checked out, with the blades removed. Always know where your throttle hold is. Mine is the upper right for all of my models. The biggest heli I've ever flown was my Trex 250. I never actually got it in the air and sold it before I tore it up. That thing was scary, and it's considered mini. I'm an intermediate heli pilot, and the biggest ones I regularly fly are my old Blade 130Xs, they're about 125 grams. It gets scary quickly if one of the servos acts up or the tail starts grinding, so I'm always ready to hit the throttle hold and dump it in as cleanly as possible. I'd also recommend spooling it up while secured somehow to a nice clean area, like a workbench and some boards thru the skids clamped down, to check everything, even with the blades off it can still kick on you, and you dont want that.
I was dumb and started with a blade 350. Made some training pad for it with sticks and balls and just hovered for a long time. Ended up working good but wouldn’t recommend that size for certain
@@billricheter5678 I did the same but started with a cheap T rex 450 clone that I picked up RTF for like $300 but it was a pretty dang decent heli for the price and being a cheap clone. I crashed a few times but then finally things started to click for me so to speak and I started getting better and better but I will say I don't do the 3d stuff at all because for me I just enjoy the basic scale flying around and admiring the model. I eventually once I got more confidence and was flying pretty smooth I got a blade 450 3d for Christmas and man was that a smooth flying heli. Going from the cheap clone to the blade 450 was night and day with how smooth it was and just the overall quality.
I don't remember which You Tube channel it was that said Ready To Fly means it comes with every thing you need to fly, it don't mean that it is set up and tuned to fly out of the box. I always triple check everything on helis before I do a maiden flight. Thanks for being honest.
Fantastic i have the same one but haven't flown it yet .they sent you another one that works fantastic will be ready for the stop switch.so very nice you guys gave it another shot!
I don't blame you for being honest, people need to know that these kinds of things CAN happen, at the same time it helps make it all the better when it works successfully. If anything companies should be using these opportunities to show how great their customer service and support can be.
I preflight pretty much every aircraft, every flight - check CG, control surface movement, etc. Even if I flew it earlier that day, there's always a chance that something came loose or broke.
I'll agree that you "Shouldn't" have to dig too deep with an RTF R/C before first flight, all that should have been done at the factory. That being said, if you had a RTF plane you would do a quick flight control deflection check before takeoff, and the same with a helicopter, you would check left and right, fore and aft swashplate. If it had a mechanical tail rotor you would check that the blades are moving in the right direction, problem is you can't do that with electric tail rotors. With electric tail rotors you have to get them spun up with the helicopter still on the ground and move the rudder stick and see if the tail shifts in the correct direction. With small helis you can hold them in your hand and do that check, not so much when they're this big. Bottom line is there is no excuse for the factory letting something like this out of the door.
Regardless, lesson learned, always remember, if it's man made it's bound to give you issues. So yes I would get in the habit of bench testing connections and servo's and structure before flying, especially a helicopter and if no one realizes how deadly these can be there are actual accident reports of people and main rotor blades colliding and sadly caused a few gruesome fatalities. Never take a manufacture at it's word on quality no matter the name and do your due diligence and totally inspect and do preflight inspections. I would think a company would be glad to know of any issues with there product especially if it's a product that could impede on safety for the consumer.
Yes, always QC your equipment before flight. I try and get one of my buddies to QC and fly for me. They will be more objective and have more attention to detail. However, the organization should have had a better QC before leaving the manufacture and shipping to you.
Well done Nate !!! I actually like this helicopter, its fast it has good response, super stable. When I get a new heli I give it the once over with all bolts, that's it RTF is just that. As far a internal wires that are switched in production well that's there problem !!! If the company advertises RTF then something happens its the manufactures problem, especially when this has happened to multiple customers. If a manufacture is not competent in there RTF products, then don't list it as RTF !!!! **** Nate really happy that you didn't hold back your thoughts for this helicopter we all appropriate it !!! ****
Regardless of whether or not the model is RTF, YOU are responsible for flight safety. That extends to ensuring that the model is capable of safe flight. I personally do not trust that somebody on minimum pay, who in all probability isn’t a model pilot would be capable of assembling MY model to a satisfactory standard. Strip and check every screw, nut and all connections etc for security. I’ve had RTF helis where the thrust bearings in the head have been assembled backwards and have been missing threadlock in critical locations.
I have 8 RC helicopters and many planes and jets. I used to strap a training gear to each new helicopter before I flew it incase there were problems. I stopped doing that awhile ago, and all my new helicopters have flown fine on the first flight so far. The Blade 330 S is my newest one, and it flew good. In the past, sometimes the older gyros would mess up and the helicopter would spin around backwards sometimes, and the training gear would help to get it landed without it tipping over. That is too bad that tail motor was spinning the wrong way. Not good. Thanks for doing these videos.
Don't feel bad. I just took mine out and it went on self control, raised up about 10 feet, began hitting tree limbs, and I had to force a crash to avoid having the potential of it harming a person or property. The heli is a total loss. Bummer. Note that the heli had flown a few times before without issue. Also note I have been flying helis for over 20 years and I'm a student pilot, so no rookie here. Stuff happens - so long $700.
I bought two Flywing H1 flight controls to put on TWO similar sized helicopters. Both still haven’t flown since the manual is too general and misses a lot of critical setup information. Just like your Huey, both have spinning tail problems. I’ve redone the setup for both at least 20 times and applied the tips the Facebook group and RUclips tutorials. I’ve narrowed it down to to the FW H1 gyro not correcting for the main blades wash. Going to give one more try and then return them if it doesn’t work. Good for you for calling out THEIR bad quality control.
1970 Vietnam working in prop & rotor. We were called out to replace tail rotor on a ship coming out of the hanger. In the middle of the night we did so. Next day walking the flight line we noticed people were doing a run up and having a vibration issues when some some one noticed that the rotors had been put on backwards. Never heard that we had been at fault.
Such mistakes seem quite common nowadays. Eg. RC cars that come with reversed gyros, making them nearly impossible to drive, or even simple things like diffs without grease - which will kill the joy after a few runs... More and more products come to market that promise simplicity and ease of use - resulting in more people joining the hobby, expecting that these things work out of the box. Not everyone has the knowledge on how these should work, they just want to "play"
You are not wrong, but we do pay a premium for Ready to Fly. They should therefore BE ready, having been checked and signed off by the company's QA guys.
As an old school heli pilot, building helis from a kit. I learnt the importance of checking connectors and pre flight checks. $700 is a lot of money, yet not a lot when talking about r/c helicopters. They can easily run into thousands. I would recomended that you check all electrical connectors before attempting to fly, along with blade pitch and the ball joint connectors that control the blade movement. I'm currently installing heli mechanics into a fibreglass body. Once everything is checked and installed. I will mount the helicopter onto a hoola hoop which has 4 wooden dowels mounted in the form of a noughts and crosses grid. I will cable tie the heli landing skids to the dowels. This allows me to spool up the heli and check that the controls are correct, minimising the risk of the helicopter crashing.
It's a Ready to fly hello people hey and it's man made so stuff happens and you out there fussing at Nate should be ashamed of your self like yall are so perfect !!! This is not Brain surgery its a hobby supposed to be fun and you people wanting to start all this Drama are sucking all the fun out of a hobby that should be attracting new people but yall are driving them away !!!!! Nate Abby yall are great we all love yall !!! Keep up the great work 👍
Honestly, the second it first starts rotating blades one should immediately notice whether all rotors are going in the correct direction unless you are very inexperienced flying copters. Also, be sure to be ready with the throttle cut switch, which one it is and practice moving it quickly.
Well? The best way is at home, to remove the blades from the main and tail. Then let it spool up to idle, and make sure the rotor heads are turning the correct way. That way, if they're not, or are correct, the Heli goes nowhere.
@@AnythingEverythingRC-rc1yc You could do the same without having to remove the blades by holding the copter to the ground with weight going through skids.
I recently purchased the new optional aluminum blade grips for my FW 450 V3; basically the same guts as the Huey and the Bell 206 but with a traditional RC heli canopy. Someone at FW actually hammered/stripped the threaded blade bolt through the grip. I had to put the grip in a vice and pull the bolt out with a pair of pliers, check the damage and measure/source a properly sized bolt. 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
Thank you guys so much for staying unbiased and true. Not taking bribes is a great display of honesty, and that’s what makes me check your reviews on every product before I buy it :)
We all make mistakes. Even stuff that passes Quality Control can have issues slip through the cracks. The lack of testing and leaving it to the consumer is a subject that some people either don't want to face, or get really defensive when you bring up their brand or whatever they happen to be selling at the time. $700 for an RC is a lot to me, but it could be "cheap" to someone else. I'd be double checking everything before any flight time. It's also a heli, the one thing that is constantly trying to kill itself in flight.. so triple checks! 😁
@@advancedaircraft I bought the 450 scale air Wolf that one’s nice has retractable landing gear plus it has the guns and missile pod, which is a nice touch three 500 scale one Coast Guard Blackhawk The cobra Which has the best prop sound very intimidating And a B105 Red Bull version Just have to be patient with the shipping
I got my too and I had to glue down the tail motor wire down because it was to close to the main motor gear inside the helicopter, but great job on flying it 👍🏽👍🏽
Glad you were made whole after the 1st disaster. The helicopter looks really nice and it is nicely to scale but it doesn’t sound at all ‘right’ - the iconic ‘Wokka Wokka’ main rotor blade noise is missing. I understand why it’s not there but it would be nice to hear. All the best. Cheers.
Enjoy your videos. I agree an RTF should be able to be flown right out of the box. However, even a ready to fly fixed wing airplane you do a preflight of aileron, rudder and elevator. A rudder test could have been done. A helicopter on the ground will try to spin on the ground with rudder inputs. rudder right, nose turns right, rudder left, and nose turns left. Any way please don't take this as a criticism. Just a suggestion.
Unless you received an adamant in the manual it's 100% on the company. Or manufacturer. Since they were trying to cover up the incident by asking you to remove it. That seems to me that maybe they are not a company to deal with. I know that it's you tubers like you two that makes my decision about whether or not to purchase a product. Especially if it's a RTF. Now if it was a ARF it's a little bit more on the builder. But RTF should be ready to go out of the box. Thanks for not removing the video. Now others to can be aware.
When it comes to helis and planes - unfortunately unless you build it you always got to check it. Glad it worked out. But agreed that manufacturer failures should be identified and rectified - shows the companies value their customers. It nice to see not just hear.
I usually put down a rubber landing pad on grass (tall grass) when I maiden, just in case something isn’t setup right from the factory . It saves the blades most of the time and the only damage is usually a plastic link or something.
Well done. The manufacturer should be happy you have the other video and this one so people know what to look for and how to correct it. Things happy and no big deal. It's all about how you handle it. Having the information out there should save them money by not needing to replace any other mis-wired units. Granted it is probably extremely unlikely but QA an always be improved from it. Hopefully they took it as a good learning experience to improve all their products. I would certainly by one (I have all fixed wing but like Heli's) and know what to look for before first flight.
Well, when I got started in RC, my first car was a Kyosho alpha 3 nitro car. And in the instructions, it said to check the car over before you first drove it. Let's face it there's always a 1 in 1000 chance of getting an rc car or aircraft that was assembled wrong.
I personally go over everything on RTF and BNF helis because of the complexity of them. That said, it shouldn't be necessary. Good QC should be baked into the high price of these things. I hope Flywing took care of the people who also had the issues that you guys did. A heli that size is too dangerous to be leaving the factory in any less than perfect working condition. I'm glad you guys had a better experience the second time around.
I honestly think it should be ready to go out of the box. Something as serious as reverse rotation is not acceptable. You guys could have been injured. I think keeping the crash video up is a great thing. It will save others pain. I guess it would be good to check rotation on all brands of choppers. The chopper is nice otherwise. Looks super up in the air. 👍
Even better, sorry I was a little bit long winded, took 2 spots to finish, please keep on doing what y'all do, as a fellow rc plane flyer, some of your video's have helped me, but mostly, I enjoy the couples into flying ,a year ago my GF has started flying, 4 solid flight, and one destroyed plane, yes your video's helped me to get her to try, so Thank y'all very much from WV.........
Wow so amazing. But why do they have to be so expensive.i would love to have that chopper.but i could never afford it.i have a 1995 savage 1/8 4.1'racing engine and use it 3 times.the 4th time we use it doing 70 plus mph someone almost got hurt very bad.safety is a must and comes first.i won't sell it to anyone.it's a unsafe rc and back in the day it was very expensive.a helicopter like that is to rich for blood.not everyone has 700 dollars for something like that.love to have 1 but will never see that day come..thanks for sharing,be safe out there.bless you all
WOW big difference!! How COOL to watch NATE flying it the way it's supposed to fly....like a helicopter!! I'm still afraid of them, but I'm SOOOO glad the company did right for you!! Always keep the camera rolling and stand by your morals!! Thanks Saylors for the FUN and honest reviews!! I'd like to see it again!! 💟👍😎 Oh, I see who you were dealing with, that explains everything!!
Back long ago with nitro helicopters we would make it light on the ground and test all directions that they were correct. You could actually turn it left and right while on the ground to make sure directions were correct. I also used trainer gear on new builds to be safe. I would then lift off a few inches high to test it for any problems. That’s the downside of gps and the auto take offs. If something is wrong it will probably be a bad crash. Glad you got a new one. Just need some parachute guys now.
A "ready to fly" Osprey almost put me in the hospital a couple of years ago. From the factory, all the servos on the transmitter were reversed! I should have tested it without props, but, hey, it was supposed to be RTF. And, how could you really test an aircraft without propellers? 19 cuts (2 probably needed stitches) and my wife coming home to what she thought was a crime scene! Bad day!
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I saw the same thing on another channel, and have had some bad motors on planes, so it happens too all of us, we love ya.
This is awesome! I love the Huey too but right now I have my hands full with my own C189 fly away issue. I've been trying to get warranty from Aliexpress seller Ace RC Store and they have just argued its all user error. I have resorted to finding information from RCGroups forums to learn others had fly away issues and how to repair replace items to get the C189 MD500 back flying. When I saw this video I was hoping you might have a similar follow up video with your fly away issue with the C189?
Thank you so much for for sharing all of your experience. God bless have a great day.
@@richardwerth641 amen
I just would not think to check cross wiring on any helicopter, not to mention one that cost $700.00! But now I know better, and have learned something here after watching your video's, don't take for granted that the wiring is hooked up correctly to the motors coming from the factory with the QC stamp on it, check that wiring out first before you start up that helicopter, or otherwise it may cost you in damages to the helicopter, or serious injury to yourself, period.
Although I have no interest in this bird, as a consumer of products (with my hard-earned money), I thank you for not succumbing to the financial incentive/pressure of FLY WING to remove the original video. It's called accountability & responsibility, China. I've been a fan of your videos for a while now, Saylors, and you've earned a lot more respect with this review.
Thank you for NOT taking down the crashed UH-1 video on youtube, and Please keep it there for everyone to see. It was factory defect. But we, buyers, deserve to know the facts. Also, I hope Fly Wing send you a new one at no cost. That is the right thing to do.
Wonder how many people just thought it was their fault and were out $700. This makes me sad. A $700. loss could turn someone away from the hobby, it would be devastating for me.
100% Agreed! 💯👍⚓️
The endless shit talking from the wife aswell ha!
They are not out nearly 700 dollars. You could fix that for less than 100. You wont make it very far in this hobby without learning how to repair and setup a heli, plus by the time they have it fixed they will have learned enough about rc helicopters to avoid having a similar crash.
@@Southwickspecialsthat doesn't change the fact that a beginner might think they f*cked up and it was their fault.
See, you are using a "straw man" argument, by changing the subject to the money loss, when the subject mentioned is the fact that the heli flies wack out of the box.
Please stop confusing the issue.
Who cares about how much money it is? The issue is that a newbie buying the heli would get turned off due to the heli breaking before they even fly it.
You sound like a politician with your argument that isn't based at all on the topic being discussed.
The cost is a tertiary issue, we (the adults in the comments) are discussing how s*itty of an experience this would be to a new hobbyist.
Please leave your snake oil and your straw men at the door when you enter actual logical adult conversations that you aren't prepared to argue about.
Here's you: "oh, this heli crashed out of the box, but that's okay because it'll only cost $100 to fix. I'm a big f** †d*ot, durrrrrr"
👆🏽 That's what it sounds like you're saying. Do you wanna be that guy? Because it's obvious to the rest of us what you're doing. I just hope you're aware of what you sound like to normal people.
@@Boogie_the_cat
Glad to see you got to maiden a second helicopter. If I was new to helicopters, I would not have known the rotational direction of the tail rotor. I would have assumed it was setup correctly, right out of the box.
I’m on the “if it’s ready to fly go fly it” team. Y’all got me back on rc planes and that’s exactly how I treated it myself. Got a UMX plane, set it up, and took it out. Went great!
I own several RTF heli's... FlyWing, Blade, mainly. Once unboxed, BEFORE I go out n start flying anything, I go over the ENTIRE vehicle! This hobby is also an investment that I spend my hard earned money on. But nothing man made is flawless. These helicopters are VERY dangerous and a preflight checklist should be completely prior to every flight as well. Your last video could have had a very different outcome, please be safe. I love your videos. 🙏👍
Free bit of good engineering and marketing advice from myself to the manufacturer.
I’ve been flying RC Heli’s for 30 years.
This machine is a good effort for $700 despite what some on here say.
The best way to improve its appeal even more and therefore sell more is to move to an anti torque system that uses traditional variable pitch tail blades instead of fixed pitch+variable speed. The rear motor can still be used for this, it doesn’t have to be driven by shaft or belt. The controller will need to be modified slightly and a servo used to drive the pitch slider.
This will stop the “bee in a jam jar” buzzing sound from the tail rotor and vastly improve the scale appeal.
I would also paint it in NATO olive or a slightly darker green.
This would be the icing on the cake for what is a lovely little Huey. Well done.
I always try to check the controls on any RTF/BNF, but the one I ALWAYS check on helis specifically, is the tail and collective direction. Take the main props off and run it up, check the yaw control and make sure it's rotating the tail in the correct direction, then I usually give it a nudge with my foot (or just hold it in my hand for small helis) at low throttle to check the gyro is also working in the correct orientation.
You shouldn't HAVE to, but taking less than 30 seconds to do this check is worth it. There's so many things that could go unnoticed in a basic QA test, and 3 phase motors (brushless) having their wires crossed definitely wouldn't be noticeable without an initial run up.
Good for you for not taking the video. I respect a company more if they just admit their faults instead of trying to hide it. Pretty cool RTF.
Outstanding!! Congratulations Nate. I told ya. I have that helicopter myself. That first crash was due to a wrongly wired tail rotor.
Good for you. Glad to see you try it again
Thank you so much ronald!! 🙏👍💯⚓️
Glad you stayed with your moral compass. I enjoy your reviews and the fact that if something isn't right you are willing to show that. This is what keeps me coming back to watch.
People always try to get away with: "You are responsible only". So if I am responsible for a pre flight test, why the seller is not? "RTF" means "RTF". Otherwise it shouldn't be printed on the box!
Appreciate your honesty guy’s and producing a honest review and the fact that things do go wrong and dealing with it in a professional manner. Keep it up.. 👏
That says something about a company when they find out that it wasn't just a random problem, and fixes and rectifies the problem, and hopefully they will up their quality control to prevent further issues.
The one thing I have always liked about you guys is that your honest to us and that is SO much appreciated!
Im a hela heli guy, I have 5 $2k to $3k 700 sized heli's and multiple others. RTF means RTF you should be able to toss a battery in it and go. That being said with heli's it is easy to avoid fatal mistakes. When its spooling on the ground only spool it to like 1/4 throttle and check rudder movement "on the ground" rotate the heli and make sure its working in the right direction. People that complained at you are just just mindless internet keyboard warriors i call them, tons of them on forums too, your a newbie to advanced heli's, this one isnt even advanced and it bit ya in the butt. It happens and is literally the only way to learn. I have many odd comments on my youtube. I read through yours. You are a nice guy. Im not!! lolol. If someone tosses shade I rip em up till they stop typing back haha. So glad you were able to keep a level head on those comments. Moving on to price I'd like to see this heli more in the $500 range. $700 is pushing the price of a fully outfitted 550 570 600 SAB goblin, Oxy 5 Meg, and so on and those are much much higher end more capable heli's. Also assisted flight comes with a lot of high end Flight Controllers, it's just most of us that have been in the game a while dont use it. I use Spirit Flybarless and it can do all that fancy auto-leveling, inverted hovering and so on all by itself. The only difference is they arent RTF you have to know it all and program it all. Flywing is good for exactly what it is. Entry level mid range heli's. They are like buying a blade/horizon heli. Great beginner heli's.
If I dont build the thing from scratch I dont check every nut and bolt. People that say they do this dont check every single one I dont care what they say. No one I mean NO ONE takes apart a RTF or RTR 100% and checks 100% of the nuts/bolts. If they did they wouldnt be buying a RTF. Normal heli's like what I have you touch and build every single bolt, thats different you have to lol. If you dont have to, sorry those people are lying they did not 100% disassemble their RTR's, they just checked all the bolts they could see, and sorry man if your gonna state about checking bolts you better check them all if you are so high and mighty to make that comment lol.
First rule always put o rings on your skids. That way you can see the torque on your skids and shut down before antitorque rotor failure.
im not gonna strip a rtf helicopter down to check it was built properly, thats crazy ,plus im probably not going notice if wiring was wrong , glad you left video up,because i like this helicopter and want one. 👍👍👍😀
It's okay who would have thought that the tail rotor was wired backwards? It wasn't your fault and not a normal thing you would check. This video was great as usual Saylor Team!
respect for not taking the og vid down!
Even if you checked, you would not have known they reversed the wires. Nothing you could have done
As long as the manufacturer stands by their product, mistakes aren't that bad.
Stuff happens, its about how they fix it and make it right. That speaks volumes for them. Never hesitate to dime drop......
Well done for sticking by your principles and keeping the original video up. It does look like a great RC helicopter, but they should have replaced it for free, without any conditions on the video.
I’m in a country where our exchange rate is 20 for $1. So this helicopter would cost me ZAR14,000.00, which is a month’s disability income. I definitely wouldn’t be polite if it happened to me.
Thank you for the great channel. Blessings.
Good follow up video! Glad this maiden was a success. While I do not trust anyone else to make sure my heli is setup correctly, I get it that new pilots assume rtf means just that, Ready to Fly. Unfortunately thats often not the case and can lead to a dangerous situation.
Just imagine somebody else buying it and it crashing because it wasn't wired properly from the factory. How would the customer service react. 700 dollars and this happening. If this is the quality control then it's not even worth 70 dollars.
The most important thing to do when starting up a heli, be it new or not, is to get it light on the skids, and GRADUALLY move each control to ascertain the correct movement. You will soon see if it’s right or wrong BEFORE you commit to take off. I know an RTF should be connected up properly from the factory, but you’ve proved this is not 100% true, and you were very lucky no one was hurt.
I have always liked hueys and been wanting to learn how to fly ,but been scared, I may pull the trigger and get me one of these. THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING YALL!
Dude.. even if you checked it out preflight, could've easily missed a tail rotor spinning the wrong way.. but hell , I'm dyslexic lol 😉 .
MAN that thing looks awesome!!
Wish it didn't cost quite so much.
I'm glad to hear that it was a defect, not your flying. And companies should realize that Murphy's Law applies to them, too. Own up to the problem, and make good on fixing things with the customers, and you will have a customer for life! I never flew on a Bell UH-1, as the Canadian Armed Forces had their own version, the Bell UH-1N, aka The Twin Huey, which had two turbine engines rather than the one the UH-1 had. As much of Canada is bare open spaces, and it gets frightfully cold during the winter, we have had a policy that our military aircraft, especially those who might be involved with search and rescue, must have at least two engines, and be able to fly on one in an emergency. I had a few flights in Twin Huey's when I was in my teens in Air Cadets. I'll never forget my first flight. They loaded a bunch of us into a Huey through the big doors on both sides, had us sit and strap down. They told us all to make sure that our multi-point harnesses were tight, and then we the took off...without closing the side doors!!! After gaining some altitude, pilot pushed the collective well forward and then made a tight left hand turn. I remember looking out the left out the open door...and seeing the earth below me, and turning to the right, and seeing nothing but sky out the right door! I can say without shame I wasn't the only one pulling on the seatbelts to make sure they were *really* tight! After I got used to it, I found it exhilarating flying with nothing between you and the sky around you something you never experience in commercial flying.
@1:35 You already let the cat out of the bag!
Mystery solved.
Call Scooby, we figured it out. 👍
The honesty and truth from you guys is why we love this channel. Best looking heli but they need to raise their quality control.
Mad respect for keeping the vid up and prioritizing the fan base. Subbed.
As a long time FW user, I can sure you with every bone in my body, that you are not an idiot. What you experienced is typical FW. The customer is the R&D and the QC all wrapped into one - on your dime. The Huey V4 with more realistic olive drab paint, red tailplanes, and optional 3D printed scale flybar stabilizer and drag links as well as convex blades should be on the market soon. Probably next month or so. If you are flying in GPS mode, make sure you know how to switch to 3D mode quickly in case you lose a satellite. Remember, its connecting to the CCP's Beidou system, not USA.
Good job not caving in . Also we need a flight with fortunate son playing in the backround !!!
Ugh, YES!! Wondering how much it would cost us to license that song!!! Man, I LOVE Vietnam jams. Nothing beats some great 70s Rock. Nothing. 😎💯⚓️
Same I literally RUclips “vietnam music playlist” at work . I want one of these helis with a Bluetooth speaker built in it lol .
Thank You for the video of faulty factory wiring and sticking to your moral compass.
Absolutely my friend, and thanks for tuning in! 👍💯😎🙏⚓️
I have never commented on any RUclips videos before, but this video has prompted me to do so. I just want to give you an "atta boy!". Good for you and your wife for sticking with your morals and doing what is right. We all need more people like you in the world! Big thumbs up and massive respect!
That honestly means a lot to us! Thank you!! 🙏💯⚓️
IT is a very cool heli, but I feel like 700 is a bit steep for what it is. There are other decent and well reviewed scale helis on Ban ggood that are 1/4 the price.
For 700 bucks I would have thought they would give these a quick factory once over, QC must have been on lunch for yours. Yeah you should probably check still, also I'm surprised the lack of yaw didn't show itself on the ground (whenever I've screwed up yaw correction direction when setting up a heli, tri ,or quad, I noticed before it took off or at least just after and got it down immediately) to be fair it's a little more difficult to see how the tail will react with a brushless tail. With a mechanical it's easy. Tricopter same. But brushless I think the best way is to learn what way it needs to correct, pull the main blades off and rev it up to see how it moves.
I would love one of these since the UH-1 is my absolute favorite helicopter but the fuselage list looks so toy grade for something so expensive.
For all the haters,,, ask them what their RUclips channel is to show how good they are.
AAGHGHGHG good for you, I hate when amazon sellers try to bribe me to take down bad reviews of bad products.
Saw the original heli flight. There was obviously something set up incorrectly out of the box. I did not comment as it is very difficult to determine issues with a model unless one is there in person. I was also awaiting the followup you guys almost always do. You don't need another armchair heli pilot making uninformed remarks. It is really bad form for a company to request you take a video down rather than reaching out. Flywing and/orBanggood should have contacted you imediately to troubleshoot the problem and arranged a replacement. Overall it would have been in their best interest. Glad you finally got one that is set up correctly. I have a standard Flywing 450L on order and am definitely going to check it out thoroughly before the maiden. Thanks for the vids.
that's on flywing. not you.
Thanks for being who you are guys! Hats off! The heli looks awesome.
So one thing that was cool about the crash video is that it was pretty scale right down to the smoke coming out of it at the end 😃
Here’s a tip from a 30 year flier. Don’t be so rushed and concentrate! During your spin up, go slower before lift off, testing your tail rotor fan pressure and direction of throw first will tell you if your tail rudder pressure is correct for left stick, left turn or left stick right turn. Don’t be so anxious to impress your YT 😊audience! Just be satisfied with improving your heli skills.
from what you have shown here I would definitely buy one of these and give it a thorough check first. I've watched your guys channel for a long time and I know you're no chump when it comes to RC helicopters and that you would not have made such a mistake so I'm really glad to see that that was all worked out. great video and great flying as usual keep it up you two
Every flight, I check the throw directions of every surface. If it's a helicopter as large as this and it was my first flight I would hold it over my head and throttle it up just a bit to verify everything. I have had a few accidents and learned that the best thing to do is verify all surfaces move in the correct direction and that includes a brief throttle up with the model in hand or on the ground before take off. I have installed the wrong direction prop on some things, I have accidentally reversed servos and brushless wires. You don't have to spend 20 minutes doing this. If you get used to it, you know everything is working within a minute before flight. I helped a beginner land his airplane when he installed the ailerons in reverse, and taught him how to do this before every flight. He will never forget that day. If you have an airplane with dual aileron servos and flip the wires when you install the wings you know exactly how easy this can happen. But any model ready to fly or not, please take 1 minute and verify the controls are doing the correct thing. I have saved many accidents by doing this simple thing. And a brief throttle up with model in hand often helps as well. It's very easy to accidentally reverse a control surface. That said the first model smoked... that is not something checking the surface would have helped with. It's never good when smoke is coming out! Good on you for keeping the video up!
Great flying helicopter. My first car was 700 dollars.
If they put quality control first that chopper is worth buying. A company should never ask to take a bad video review down that's the company's mistake. I would buy this. It Flys great.
Flight check ...for every flight . Real or rc even then you can miss something. You learn more from your mistakes ! No one or company is perfect 🤠 great flight 🚁 keep it real !
A heli that size needs to be thoroughly checked out, with the blades removed.
Always know where your throttle hold is. Mine is the upper right for all of my models.
The biggest heli I've ever flown was my Trex 250. I never actually got it in the air and sold it before I tore it up. That thing was scary, and it's considered mini.
I'm an intermediate heli pilot, and the biggest ones I regularly fly are my old Blade 130Xs, they're about 125 grams. It gets scary quickly if one of the servos acts up or the tail starts grinding, so I'm always ready to hit the throttle hold and dump it in as cleanly as possible.
I'd also recommend spooling it up while secured somehow to a nice clean area, like a workbench and some boards thru the skids clamped down, to check everything, even with the blades off it can still kick on you, and you dont want that.
I was dumb and started with a blade 350. Made some training pad for it with sticks and balls and just hovered for a long time. Ended up working good but wouldn’t recommend that size for certain
@@billricheter5678 I did the same but started with a cheap T rex 450 clone that I picked up RTF for like $300 but it was a pretty dang decent heli for the price and being a cheap clone. I crashed a few times but then finally things started to click for me so to speak and I started getting better and better but I will say I don't do the 3d stuff at all because for me I just enjoy the basic scale flying around and admiring the model. I eventually once I got more confidence and was flying pretty smooth I got a blade 450 3d for Christmas and man was that a smooth flying heli. Going from the cheap clone to the blade 450 was night and day with how smooth it was and just the overall quality.
I don't remember which You Tube channel it was that said Ready To Fly means it comes with every thing you need to fly, it don't mean that it is set up and tuned to fly out of the box. I always triple check everything on helis before I do a maiden flight. Thanks for being honest.
That is cool,I have no rc flying experience but I love choppers.I dont have 700 bucks to spend on something like that.
I always wondered what happened after that video you made when it crashed. Thanks for the update!!!
Fantastic i have the same one but haven't flown it yet .they sent you another one that works fantastic will be ready for the stop switch.so very nice you guys gave it another shot!
I don't blame you for being honest, people need to know that these kinds of things CAN happen, at the same time it helps make it all the better when it works successfully.
If anything companies should be using these opportunities to show how great their customer service and support can be.
Not your fault Bro!! You and your girl are intelligent/well experienced hobbyist.. junk is junk
A huey is by far the coolest helicopter
I 100% agree! Second place for me, maybe an Apache? And if not that, a Chinook! 👍💯😎⚓️
I preflight pretty much every aircraft, every flight - check CG, control surface movement, etc. Even if I flew it earlier that day, there's always a chance that something came loose or broke.
I'll agree that you "Shouldn't" have to dig too deep with an RTF R/C before first flight, all that should have been done at the factory. That being said, if you had a RTF plane you would do a quick flight control deflection check before takeoff, and the same with a helicopter, you would check left and right, fore and aft swashplate. If it had a mechanical tail rotor you would check that the blades are moving in the right direction, problem is you can't do that with electric tail rotors. With electric tail rotors you have to get them spun up with the helicopter still on the ground and move the rudder stick and see if the tail shifts in the correct direction. With small helis you can hold them in your hand and do that check, not so much when they're this big. Bottom line is there is no excuse for the factory letting something like this out of the door.
Regardless, lesson learned, always remember, if it's man made it's bound to give you issues. So yes I would get in the habit of bench testing connections and servo's and structure before flying, especially a helicopter and if no one realizes how deadly these can be there are actual accident reports of people and main rotor blades colliding and sadly caused a few gruesome fatalities. Never take a manufacture at it's word on quality no matter the name and do your due diligence and totally inspect and do preflight inspections. I would think a company would be glad to know of any issues with there product especially if it's a product that could impede on safety for the consumer.
Yes, always QC your equipment before flight. I try and get one of my buddies to QC and fly for me. They will be more objective and have more attention to detail. However, the organization should have had a better QC before leaving the manufacture and shipping to you.
Well done Nate !!! I actually like this helicopter, its fast it has good response, super stable. When I get a new heli I give it the once over with all bolts, that's it RTF is just that. As far a internal wires that are switched in production well that's there problem !!! If the company advertises RTF then something happens its the manufactures problem, especially when this has happened to multiple customers. If a manufacture is not competent in there RTF products, then don't list it as RTF !!!!
**** Nate really happy that you didn't hold back your thoughts for this helicopter we all appropriate it !!! ****
Regardless of whether or not the model is RTF, YOU are responsible for flight safety. That extends to ensuring that the model is capable of safe flight. I personally do not trust that somebody on minimum pay, who in all probability isn’t a model pilot would be capable of assembling MY model to a satisfactory standard. Strip and check every screw, nut and all connections etc for security. I’ve had RTF helis where the thrust bearings in the head have been assembled backwards and have been missing threadlock in critical locations.
The sound of this chopper is really weird.
No Huey *thump-thump-thump-thump-thump* of the rotors.
@@Easy-EightI would not buy it just for this reason.
I have 8 RC helicopters and many planes and jets. I used to strap a training gear to each new helicopter before I flew it incase there were problems. I stopped doing that awhile ago, and all my new helicopters have flown fine on the first flight so far. The Blade 330 S is my newest one, and it flew good. In the past, sometimes the older gyros would mess up and the helicopter would spin around backwards sometimes, and the training gear would help to get it landed without it tipping over. That is too bad that tail motor was spinning the wrong way. Not good. Thanks for doing these videos.
Don't feel bad. I just took mine out and it went on self control, raised up about 10 feet, began hitting tree limbs, and I had to force a crash to avoid having the potential of it harming a person or property. The heli is a total loss. Bummer. Note that the heli had flown a few times before without issue. Also note I have been flying helis for over 20 years and I'm a student pilot, so no rookie here. Stuff happens - so long $700.
I bought two Flywing H1 flight controls to put on TWO similar sized helicopters. Both still haven’t flown since the manual is too general and misses a lot of critical setup information. Just like your Huey, both have spinning tail problems. I’ve redone the setup for both at least 20 times and applied the tips the Facebook group and RUclips tutorials. I’ve narrowed it down to to the FW H1 gyro not correcting for the main blades wash. Going to give one more try and then return them if it doesn’t work. Good for you for calling out THEIR bad quality control.
It was very obvious that your tail rotor was operating in reverse as it spun up. I’m glad you were able to obtain another one and have fun flying it.
1970 Vietnam working in prop & rotor. We were called out to replace tail rotor on a ship coming out of the hanger. In the middle of the night we did so. Next day walking the flight line we noticed people were doing a run up and having a vibration issues when some some one noticed that the rotors had been put on backwards. Never heard that we had been at fault.
Such mistakes seem quite common nowadays. Eg. RC cars that come with reversed gyros, making them nearly impossible to drive, or even simple things like diffs without grease - which will kill the joy after a few runs... More and more products come to market that promise simplicity and ease of use - resulting in more people joining the hobby, expecting that these things work out of the box. Not everyone has the knowledge on how these should work, they just want to "play"
You are not wrong, but we do pay a premium for Ready to Fly. They should therefore BE ready, having been checked and signed off by the company's QA guys.
As an old school heli pilot, building helis from a kit. I learnt the importance of checking connectors and pre flight checks. $700 is a lot of money, yet not a lot when talking about r/c helicopters. They can easily run into thousands. I would recomended that you check all electrical connectors before attempting to fly, along with blade pitch and the ball joint connectors that control the blade movement. I'm currently installing heli mechanics into a fibreglass body. Once everything is checked and installed. I will mount the helicopter onto a hoola hoop which has 4 wooden dowels mounted in the form of a noughts and crosses grid. I will cable tie the heli landing skids to the dowels. This allows me to spool up the heli and check that the controls are correct, minimising the risk of the helicopter crashing.
It's a Ready to fly hello people hey and it's man made so stuff happens and you out there fussing at Nate should be ashamed of your self like yall are so perfect !!!
This is not Brain surgery its a hobby supposed to be fun and you people wanting to start all this Drama are sucking all the fun out of a hobby that should be attracting new people but yall are driving them away !!!!!
Nate Abby yall are great we all love yall !!! Keep up the great work 👍
Honestly, the second it first starts rotating blades one should immediately notice whether all rotors are going in the correct direction unless you are very inexperienced flying copters. Also, be sure to be ready with the throttle cut switch, which one it is and practice moving it quickly.
Well? The best way is at home, to remove the blades from the main and tail. Then let it spool up to idle, and make sure the rotor heads are turning the correct way. That way, if they're not, or are correct, the Heli goes nowhere.
@@AnythingEverythingRC-rc1yc You could do the same without having to remove the blades by holding the copter to the ground with weight going through skids.
I recently purchased the new optional aluminum blade grips for my FW 450 V3; basically the same guts as the Huey and the Bell 206 but with a traditional RC heli canopy. Someone at FW actually hammered/stripped the threaded blade bolt through the grip. I had to put the grip in a vice and pull the bolt out with a pair of pliers, check the damage and measure/source a properly sized bolt. 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
Thank you guys so much for staying unbiased and true. Not taking bribes is a great display of honesty, and that’s what makes me check your reviews on every product before I buy it :)
We all make mistakes. Even stuff that passes Quality Control can have issues slip through the cracks. The lack of testing and leaving it to the consumer is a subject that some people either don't want to face, or get really defensive when you bring up their brand or whatever they happen to be selling at the time. $700 for an RC is a lot to me, but it could be "cheap" to someone else. I'd be double checking everything before any flight time. It's also a heli, the one thing that is constantly trying to kill itself in flight.. so triple checks! 😁
I just recently ordered four Roban helicopters at least they test fly your copter and send you a video so you know it can actually fly
really can you share more details. Which one did you go with?
@@advancedaircraft I bought the 450 scale air Wolf that one’s nice has retractable landing gear plus it has the guns and missile pod, which is a nice touch three 500 scale one Coast Guard Blackhawk
The cobra Which has the best prop sound very intimidating
And a B105 Red Bull version
Just have to be patient with the shipping
I got my too and I had to glue down the tail motor wire down because it was to close to the main motor gear inside the helicopter, but great job on flying it 👍🏽👍🏽
Glad you were made whole after the 1st disaster.
The helicopter looks really nice and it is nicely to scale but it doesn’t sound at all ‘right’ - the iconic ‘Wokka Wokka’ main rotor blade noise is missing.
I understand why it’s not there but it would be nice to hear.
All the best.
Cheers.
After seeing the crash video you filmed I was scared and think I will check over every new RTF model for now on. Who knew????
Enjoy your videos. I agree an RTF should be able to be flown right out of the box. However, even a ready to fly fixed wing airplane you do a preflight of aileron, rudder and elevator. A rudder test could have been done. A helicopter on the ground will try to spin on the ground with rudder inputs. rudder right, nose turns right, rudder left, and nose turns left. Any way please don't take this as a criticism. Just a suggestion.
Unless you received an adamant in the manual it's 100% on the company. Or manufacturer. Since they were trying to cover up the incident by asking you to remove it. That seems to me that maybe they are not a company to deal with. I know that it's you tubers like you two that makes my decision about whether or not to purchase a product.
Especially if it's a RTF.
Now if it was a ARF it's a little bit more on the builder. But RTF should be ready to go out of the box. Thanks for not removing the video. Now others to can be aware.
When it comes to helis and planes - unfortunately unless you build it you always got to check it.
Glad it worked out. But agreed that manufacturer failures should be identified and rectified - shows the companies value their customers.
It nice to see not just hear.
I usually put down a rubber landing pad on grass (tall grass) when I maiden, just in case something isn’t setup right from the factory . It saves the blades most of the time and the only damage is usually a plastic link or something.
Totally not your fault people judge because of ignorance that happens when buying Chinese stuff much love to the channel ❤
If he hit someone who do you think would be sued, not the manufacturer it would be the pilot. Take some responsibility
Well done. The manufacturer should be happy you have the other video and this one so people know what to look for and how to correct it. Things happy and no big deal. It's all about how you handle it. Having the information out there should save them money by not needing to replace any other mis-wired units. Granted it is probably extremely unlikely but QA an always be improved from it. Hopefully they took it as a good learning experience to improve all their products. I would certainly by one (I have all fixed wing but like Heli's) and know what to look for before first flight.
Well, when I got started in RC, my first car was a Kyosho alpha 3 nitro car. And in the instructions, it said to check the car over before you first drove it. Let's face it there's always a 1 in 1000 chance of getting an rc car or aircraft that was assembled wrong.
I personally go over everything on RTF and BNF helis because of the complexity of them. That said, it shouldn't be necessary. Good QC should be baked into the high price of these things. I hope Flywing took care of the people who also had the issues that you guys did. A heli that size is too dangerous to be leaving the factory in any less than perfect working condition.
I'm glad you guys had a better experience the second time around.
I honestly think it should be ready to go out of the box. Something as serious as reverse rotation is not acceptable. You guys could have been injured. I think keeping the crash video up is a great thing. It will save others pain. I guess it would be good to check rotation on all brands of choppers. The chopper is nice otherwise. Looks super up in the air. 👍
Even better, sorry I was a little bit long winded, took 2 spots to finish, please keep on doing what y'all do, as a fellow rc plane flyer, some of your video's have helped me, but mostly, I enjoy the couples into flying ,a year ago my GF has started flying, 4 solid flight, and one destroyed plane, yes your video's helped me to get her to try, so Thank y'all very much from WV.........
Wow so amazing. But why do they have to be so expensive.i would love to have that chopper.but i could never afford it.i have a 1995 savage 1/8 4.1'racing engine and use it 3 times.the 4th time we use it doing 70 plus mph someone almost got hurt very bad.safety is a must and comes first.i won't sell it to anyone.it's a unsafe rc and back in the day it was very expensive.a helicopter like that is to rich for blood.not everyone has 700 dollars for something like that.love to have 1 but will never see that day come..thanks for sharing,be safe out there.bless you all
WOW big difference!! How COOL to watch NATE flying it the way it's supposed to fly....like a helicopter!! I'm still afraid of them, but I'm SOOOO glad the company did right for you!! Always keep the camera rolling and stand by your morals!! Thanks Saylors for the FUN and honest reviews!! I'd like to see it again!! 💟👍😎 Oh, I see who you were dealing with, that explains everything!!
Back long ago with nitro helicopters we would make it light on the ground and test all directions that they were correct. You could actually turn it left and right while on the ground to make sure directions were correct. I also used trainer gear on new builds to be safe. I would then lift off a few inches high to test it for any problems. That’s the downside of gps and the auto take offs. If something is wrong it will probably be a bad crash. Glad you got a new one. Just need some parachute guys now.
Wow this sets you far apart from other rc RUclipsrs
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A "ready to fly" Osprey almost put me in the hospital a couple of years ago. From the factory, all the servos on the transmitter were reversed! I should have tested it without props, but, hey, it was supposed to be RTF. And, how could you really test an aircraft without propellers? 19 cuts (2 probably needed stitches) and my wife coming home to what she thought was a crime scene! Bad day!
Crime scene haha hilarious mate lol 😂
@@appsstore11I can laugh now--wasn't laughing that day! It's hard to apply pressure to stop bleeding on your arm and a leg simultaneously!
@@gregmcclure2640 oooff buddy,glad your ok now though 👍
$700! Check everything prior to flying!
Glad to see this one got another chance cause it's a nice model 😊