I really appreciate how Simon Hart communicates so clearly. Lol He didnt say "you can't". He just labelled it "adventurist". I friggin love it! Be awesome to hear more conversations with Simon.
Well done Simon and Derek! I really love the way Simon broke this down. Then at the end when we talked about there's more than one way to the end goal, up to the cultivator themselves to choose the platform of fertilizer. Everyone knows which of the three types they talked about that I run with but it's good information and education for us to talk about every different system. GRATITUDE
As far as I'm concerned organic is the only way to grow. You can even use the weeds in your yard and garden to make fermented plant juices. They help return all the minerals and nutrients back to the soil plus add biodiversity to the soil. Another good option are compost teas to add extra biology to your soil as well as plant available nutrients.
. As long as you have tried all the other options before you typed a comment like this, I can respect your choice. If you've just said this for shitz and grins and you've never tried the other options then you need to be mocked mercilessly. If you were an experienced grower and were presented with certain conditions you had to grow under I promise you would not be so quick to make a statement so bold. But that comes usually with a lack of experience and knowledge and being a card-carrying member of the dunning-kruger club. Keep on keeping on and definitely keep on growing.
I get really good outdoor soil results by preparing early. I go fishing and catch a shit load of carp, chop into pieces and store in a freezer. I have a farm so there is "aged" chicken, sheep, horse, and cow manure available and "dry" biomass. A large load of all this is mixed together along with the carp and left over winter. Winter in Australia is not that cold so it breaks down well. This is placed into a "lined" in ground hole around the side, not bottom for drainage and planted into in spring. For supplement feeding I use a Digested liquid of carp and seaweed. In Australia they are "charlie carp" and "seasol" And all this will get you a healthy plant 3 metres by 4metres and 4 to 6 kilos depending on species.
A good natured commentator with a good knowledge base and a specialist on the topic of biological fertilizers is just that same key place I have been so amazed with learning about and active in...This is Top Notch ..Active ..but not too active biology ...Thanks Good Pod
Wow! Simon s the man. Like hearing how you can use a combination of organics and salt-based fertilizers. I start with organic soil and use salt-based for flowering because it works, is easiest and least expensive option that I understand at this point.
FPJ is great. All the minerals and nutrients your plant of choice needs to grow will be in the roots of whatever plant you juice. Also your plant can pretty much use all the nutrients in organic or living soil. Adding extra will help out a lot. You will get some big flowers that are pretty and strong.
I am primarily organic with all my garden including my cannabis. I keep synthetics on hand for different situations such as tweaking later in the grow cycle if a nutrient is needed or to break down a straw bale for planting or some other nefarious reason. The secret for great plants is of course great soil that has the natural micro stuff happening. I always add bioactive mulch made with comfrey, worm castings, humix and a little Dr earth stirred up and allowed to partially break down the comfrey prior to topping.
Literally 2 minutes in and I'm entwined in thought. Love that part about bears bringing fish into the forest. I've never thought about it that way! If you think about it, that really puts a big emphasis on the importance of apex predators in an ecosystem. I've always thought it was just a means of population control, it's much more than just that!
Exact true . The trophic starts in highlands with a basic one cell flashed downwards by rains then it return with saimon swim against flows to breed and die giving all nutrients back
Maybe your experience has shown you that not getting a white ash in the end has to do with flushing, but I tend to find it usually has to do with poor or improper drying or curing. The chlorophyll not being allowed or able to completely break down and dissipate. Anyway this is just my opinion and it wouldn't be the first time I have been incorrect. LOL I just know that in testing I have done both flushing for two weeks as well as no flush all the way up to the end and have not seen the same results that you say you get. Again though there are many different nutrient manufacturers so could that possibly be the issue?
I use Blue Planet Nutrients Farmers Pride Organic blend. Just about every grower on YT who were popular, spent they're own money on BPN. No advertising. Incredible prices. Then some of these popular channels became sponsored by Flora Flex, dry mineral salt nutes. Flora Flex have some cool gadgets for growing, but I already found the perfect nutrients for me, for now. All those channels that switched from BPN, don't seem to be available on YT anymore..? I was amazed that they loved it so much, that they'd pay full price. Great deal! Great ingredients! I'm going to use something similar to Ocean Forest soil, but good for the whole grow with just water. I'm going to mix about 11 gallons of the mix, along with around 16 gallons of a Pro Mix BX type of soil. I'll add 2-3 gallons of Worm Castings, a few gallons of Bio Char, along with 4-5 gallons of Perlite, maybe a few gallons of Coco Coir croutons. They really attract roots into them.👍💯✌️
I use the soil in our "killing field" usually on any big farm back in the day there was a part of the property only used for butchering animals and that soil is premo now
Cannabis is a history teacher if you can translate the language it has every generation locked within showing the intentions of every person who ever touched it and the locations that it’s roots touched thousands of years of human history plays out from form to function . Cannabis gives us a way to interact with our elders of years past when we interact with it . I call it the ambassador of plants a hand reaching out from the forests and gardens of the past so we see the forest for the trees again.
I have felt this with certain cultivars like land races and basic hybrids. Almost like you can tell the intent of the high the people that created it on top of where it was created. I felt the same way the first time I took the philosophers stone mushroom. I was attached to the mycelium network and I could feel "myself" branching through the soil stretching miles and miles. Cellular memory and holographic universe theory are beyond time and space.
@@NecroG0d Absolutely imagine smoking with the monks of anchor watt or the architects of the great pyramids or the mazatec people of Mexico . They all left some stuff behind that we can touch but they also left us something that can reach out and touch us should we seek it . A telephone to the spirit would that grows from the ground . Should we get lost in life a map leading us back to spirit. What a weird and wonderful world we are on .
@@TruthHurts2u Organic nutrients are chelated by fatty acids. The difference is night and day. Like anal sex with lube or without. Oh, and cannabinoids and cannabis aromas are synthesized from those fatty acids. Different microbes produce different fatty acids. I have different soil for different strains. Tell me I'm wasting my time mixing organic soils after smoking my herb. You'll actually get high and actually taste cannabis flavor metabolites for the first time in your life, instead of failed chemical reactions and incomplete metabolism. All your bud turns to dust, doesn't have a unique effect, and tastes like McDonald's grade at best.
I use mainly organic and will supplement with salts. I think most people would have more success with that, but im always outdoors and I've never used a pesticide, especially on something grown for consumption
why would you buy fertilizer when you can make it urself with freaking buckets and water and weeds lmao it works so good just leave it for a couple weeks or months
Not everyone has the time to wait for months. Even though i support organic growing and making your own compost, by the time you wait for your compost you could already veg a plant and make it ready for flowering, you would only have to spend some money on nutes. If you live in an apartment it's difficult to find a place to make your own fertilizers. And the smell is too strong. Especially if you live where it's illegal, you don't want to attract attention by the neighbors. If you grow in your own soil and not adding any more nutes, of course you have to use very big pots, because supersoils or living soils don't work properly in small pots. And very big pots indoors in your home are not practical, too heavy, too much water, too messy, and too big plants. I think making your own soil is the best choice, but only if you had a farm, land or a field. Nice weather at least half the year, and plenty of time. And of course, a stash of nice medicine you can buy, or saved from last grow. If you're in a hurry, ain't nobody got time to make a soil :) And it's easier for new growers to follow a simple easy schedule with nutes. When building a soil, it's difficult for someone who never grew plants and knows nothing about botany, agriculture, gardening etc. Sorry Sir, i respect your opinion and i would love to grow outdoors naturally but for me it's impossible right now, so i have to do as organic as i can with Biobizz bottled nutes.
@@twentytwo138 I disagree. Mixing a decent organic soil is fairly easy and you don't have to mess with ppm meters. There are organic dry amendment mixes that are good enough for a first time grower. Then all they need is water and some top dressing for flower.
@@comfortablynumb9342 Ok and how large the pot must be? Can you do it in 1 gallon pots for a small stealth indoor grow? And can you prepare the soil in few days or a week maximum?
I grow with ghe ( terra aquatica) and I will buy the canna bio pack because I want a better final product , I made a 600 w hps and some outdoor autos and feminised , nice video , gtotek has some cal max I use it a lot .
Personally i only encountered black ash from plants grown in hydro or coco, with cheap synthetic nutrients and no flushing.. But much less when grown in soils.. I've smoked badly dried and cured buds, and while the ash was dark it was not completely black, it didn't crackle and turn into hard charcoal. I think there's a big difference between a badly cured black ash, and overly fertilized with salts black ash.
@@dalanwanbdiska6542 i cant really flush organics with live soil, the fade does still come, usually from genetics or temps. ive grown over 20 cycles but only 5 total organic, and thats outdoor greenhouse, so last 5 years organic. never flush (cant) still get fade and or colour changes tho.
@@twentytwo138 dam man, ive never smoked anything that turned to hard charcoal like ash..... id stay away from that, imagine whats happening in your lungs from that.. ;)
@@P2Feener305 ruclips.net/video/W-3ZZJyk5lc/видео.html Dr bugbee works with nasa on plant science and biology him and his lab has done tons of research he just did one about how much light pollution effects cannabis. I stop feeding two weeks before harvest because it doesn't have an effect on yield so why feed the last two weeks
I like this session it was very eye-opening are you salt 🧂 based fertilizers but also combined fish fertilizer worm castings and I add microbes to clean the roots and to help the uptake y'all have a great day out there hehehe
Is there anywhere I can get credible help with a synorganic grow as Simon was so confident on mixing both together? I've only done organic in fabric pots before. Thx
Just spent 20k on ac and dehu but damnnnn it feels good to be a gangstaaa. IL Medical 🏥 in the house 🏡! Do it right, save a life. #dontpanicitsorganic #M’sintheAIR #landminesfortheweednerds
I keep hearing this over and over 1/2 organic & 1/2 synthetic? If everything I've ever learned from trusted source and from my own expiernce 50+ years is wrong, then perhaps yes you can mix it up anyway you like it... As for me and my house we won't be contributing to Mon_san_tow, Bay_er or any more for X_on. We be free and with the Baddest bud🌾😎✌❤ All our inputs are locally procured from nature and produced fresh by our own hands and recipes. Peace out✌
@@nealcassady1189 The proof is in the bud. We grow boutique bud for gifts to friends. Not trying to become the next mega millionaire. Peace out ✌Hippie bro grow is plenty good for me. Our bud is our branding. We dont need no marketing. 😉
@@nealcassady1189 the scientists and exspurts say it's good to get the 💉 and all the boosters too. No worries it's actually good for you they say. You do you and I'll do me.
Very important to put a base down during the transition phase as well as maybe larger space nothing but a very big root zone and very big flowers currently running auto pots Biological activity is a must living soil is a must
Kinda related, but this reminds me of foods and medicine we eat. Processed foods and manufactured medicine isn't that good for us, but natural things found in nature are better.
What came first the chicken or egg ? What came first minerals or cells ? If the world was created by elements combining that created living life . Then hydroponics with salt base nutrients which are in the purest form will create superior products.
Most of the companies selling organics though aren't really being honest most of the those products are really high in heavy metals the way a lot of them are producing their kelp it has arsonic diatomaceous earth and other ground powdered rock products have heavy metals and most organic gardeners like to keep their soil around forever so those heavy metals just keep accumulating
White and Black ash has more to do with the dry and cure stage than the “flush” stage. There’s been some great articles written over the last two years.
I cured a batch with no flush ,black ash. Flush before harvest to get rid of all shit so plant eats itself and turns yellow. Flush and cure always , always gets me white ash. I harvest alot a year so i know it just not from a cure. flush is definitely needed.
Do you grow? I smoke fresh herb (less than 24hr cure) quite a bit. It all burns white when I smoke it regardless of cure. In Ground and Organic grower. I wonder if it has more to do with pesticide spray than flushing
Compost is a good ingredient in soil but I found that it needs more aeration (perlite/ vermiculite/ pumice pebbles) to grow healthy roots. Only compost becomes hydrophobic and matted together after a while and the plants suffer
True, however, in terms of growing and maintaining 'living soil', it has far more stability in terms of chelated nutrients primarily driven by the symbiotic relationship with biology (mashkiki)...you don't get that in flushed system. I predict as our understanding and context of terpenes, enzymes, and exudates grow, the more depth of function(s) will appear, like Crop steering perhaps. -Grow on-
@@dalanwanbdiska6542 salt based nutrients actually remove the work from and for the microorganisms, therefore it removes the biology from the soil. If you are running salt nutes you don't need biology so...yes, salt based nutes hurt what organics offers. I've done all 3 salt, A mixture of organic ammendments and salts and strictly teas and top dressing. All of them work good 👍 it's all on the person. But if you want your crops to get better each time go organic
@@dalanwanbdiska6542 Salts will kill off microbial life very quickly. If growing mostly Organic, but if using a small amount of mineral salts, as a bloom booster, this works great and I've always had the whitest ash, great taste!👍💯✌️
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@@smurfigee does not matter which way you go if done right as the plant uses that same nuts at the end of the day, the plants has no idea which way you went.
@ that is true 👍 IF DONE RIGHT!! And the grower would have to get better with the cultivar. In organics the medium keeps getting better and so does the grower.
@@fattymcbastard6536 A tea done correctly hyper accelerates the microbiology to procreate by essentially using oxygen and sugar. Good ol' bubble stones and unsulfured molasses, something adding amendments straight to the soil cannot do.
@@NecroG0d That makes sense, actually. It raises a question pertaining to the sustainability of the microbes once added to the soil. Intuitively it would seem that most would die off or go dormant considering the soil environment contains less oxygen, right? I guess it doesn't matter though. When the tea is ready, it's ready I suppose. Full of plant-available nutrients requiring no further breakdown... like manure and compost.
Come on guys. The organic amendments are also developed in laboratories and produced in factories. Practice whatever type of agriculture that pleases you. But when you display such bias you lose all credibility.
If an Organic ingredient has no salt in it, or even any, it's nothing like use mineral salts that have ruined our Soil life in most areas. Much less Micronutrients from Mineral Salts has made our food much less nutrient dense. A Carrot from 50 years ago? It requires 50 Carrots nowadays to get the same amount of Beta Carotene from that one Carrot 50 years ago. Our modern day, mineral salt nutrients used by most farmers have destroyed our food and soils. Not that Manures and other natural ingredients don't cause damage, as well as getting into the grounds water supply, but we've learned much from The Aztecs, and hopefully we can use these procedures to enrich and bring plenty of life back into the soil.👍💯✌️
@@sageninja7260 organic nutrients are made and packaged by the same companies. Unless you’re doing everything your self, it’s not. It’s also not sustainable - but everyone knows this.
If you want to do organic, you should amend the soil the year before planting. It gives the nutrients time to break down into a usable form for the plant. Technically, there is no benefits over one versus the other one ( synthetic) except for synthetic products are more easily available for the plant, but will accumulate salts in the soil so rotation is important. It's a myth that organic makes better taste. Just no scientific evidence of this.
I really appreciate how Simon Hart communicates so clearly. Lol He didnt say "you can't". He just labelled it "adventurist". I friggin love it! Be awesome to hear more conversations with Simon.
Well done Simon and Derek! I really love the way Simon broke this down. Then at the end when we talked about there's more than one way to the end goal, up to the cultivator themselves to choose the platform of fertilizer. Everyone knows which of the three types they talked about that I run with but it's good information and education for us to talk about every different system. GRATITUDE
Big up soilking!
As far as I'm concerned organic is the only way to grow. You can even use the weeds in your yard and garden to make fermented plant juices. They help return all the minerals and nutrients back to the soil plus add biodiversity to the soil. Another good option are compost teas to add extra biology to your soil as well as plant available nutrients.
I absolutely agree
C'mon, it's obvious that organic/veganic cannabis is superior. Especially when inhaled. The difference in smokability is undeniable...👊🏼💚👊🏼
100%
Prefer salt for cannabis. Much faster, easier to handle pests... Organics has its place. Apples and oranges I guess
. As long as you have tried all the other options before you typed a comment like this, I can respect your choice. If you've just said this for shitz and grins and you've never tried the other options then you need to be mocked mercilessly. If you were an experienced grower and were presented with certain conditions you had to grow under I promise you would not be so quick to make a statement so bold. But that comes usually with a lack of experience and knowledge and being a card-carrying member of the dunning-kruger club. Keep on keeping on and definitely keep on growing.
I get really good outdoor soil results by preparing early. I go fishing and catch a shit load of carp, chop into pieces and store in a freezer. I have a farm so there is "aged" chicken, sheep, horse, and cow manure available and "dry" biomass. A large load of all this is mixed together along with the carp and left over winter. Winter in Australia is not that cold so it breaks down well. This is placed into a "lined" in ground hole around the side, not bottom for drainage and planted into in spring. For supplement feeding I use a Digested liquid of carp and seaweed. In Australia they are "charlie carp" and "seasol" And all this will get you a healthy plant 3 metres by 4metres and 4 to 6 kilos depending on species.
Oz bushweed is like Thai Stick though. It's unsmokable mate.
A good natured commentator with a good knowledge base and a specialist on the topic of biological fertilizers is just that same key place I have been so amazed with learning about and active in...This is Top Notch ..Active ..but not too active biology ...Thanks Good Pod
Humans need to consume this info and apply it to their OWN body to live & feel better 100%☝️🙋♂️
Wow! Simon s the man. Like hearing how you can use a combination of organics and salt-based fertilizers. I start with organic soil and use salt-based for flowering because it works, is easiest and least expensive option that I understand at this point.
I get the best results using a little bit of both. If you got good soil a little goes a long way.
FPJ is great. All the minerals and nutrients your plant of choice needs to grow will be in the roots of whatever plant you juice. Also your plant can pretty much use all the nutrients in organic or living soil. Adding extra will help out a lot. You will get some big flowers that are pretty and strong.
When there is a fly around and on a grower he is legit organic grower.
I am primarily organic with all my garden including my cannabis. I keep synthetics on hand for different situations such as tweaking later in the grow cycle if a nutrient is needed or to break down a straw bale for planting or some other nefarious reason. The secret for great plants is of course great soil that has the natural micro stuff happening. I always add bioactive mulch made with comfrey, worm castings, humix and a little Dr earth stirred up and allowed to partially break down the comfrey prior to topping.
I mean there are organic options for any synthetic these days..pretty fast acting too
@@TheOnlyKontrol True, most synthetics I have used though sparingly haven't prove to be that great.
Yes! I love these videos! Ganjier keep it up don’t stop! Would love to come on myself or chat with you all!
Literally 2 minutes in and I'm entwined in thought. Love that part about bears bringing fish into the forest. I've never thought about it that way! If you think about it, that really puts a big emphasis on the importance of apex predators in an ecosystem. I've always thought it was just a means of population control, it's much more than just that!
Exact true . The trophic starts in highlands with a basic one cell flashed downwards by rains then it return with saimon swim against flows to breed and die giving all nutrients back
Maybe your experience has shown you that not getting a white ash in the end has to do with flushing, but I tend to find it usually has to do with poor or improper drying or curing. The chlorophyll not being allowed or able to completely break down and dissipate. Anyway this is just my opinion and it wouldn't be the first time I have been incorrect. LOL I just know that in testing I have done both flushing for two weeks as well as no flush all the way up to the end and have not seen the same results that you say you get. Again though there are many different nutrient manufacturers so could that possibly be the issue?
I use Blue Planet Nutrients Farmers Pride Organic blend. Just about every grower on YT who were popular, spent they're own money on BPN. No advertising. Incredible prices. Then some of these popular channels became sponsored by Flora Flex, dry mineral salt nutes. Flora Flex have some cool gadgets for growing, but I already found the perfect nutrients for me, for now.
All those channels that switched from BPN, don't seem to be available on YT anymore..? I was amazed that they loved it so much, that they'd pay full price. Great deal! Great ingredients!
I'm going to use something similar to Ocean Forest soil, but good for the whole grow with just water. I'm going to mix about 11 gallons of the mix, along with around 16 gallons of a Pro Mix BX type of soil.
I'll add 2-3 gallons of Worm Castings, a few gallons of Bio Char, along with 4-5 gallons of Perlite, maybe a few gallons of Coco Coir croutons. They really attract roots into them.👍💯✌️
Try to make a campfire with a wet vs dried wood, look at the difference in the ash after you burn it. The smell too. Has nothing to do with flush.😅
Love this channel. Can't wait till a new episode of High rollers.
Thank you !! Some great reliable informations without judgemental bs like I've seen too many times.
I use the soil in our "killing field" usually on any big farm back in the day there was a part of the property only used for butchering animals and that soil is premo now
Dude you sold me on the first frase "consistency" 😂
Excellent info again, thank you Derek and Simon!
I live in the tropics and organic here in my garden is a must..😎👌🇵🇷🌴🌿🌎🐝
What do you think about watering plants with fish tank water?
my friend had a coy fish pond and hand watered all 8plants individually and they were massive
One day I'll be a gangier. Great content
The time to start is now buddy ✌
This interview gets 2 thumbs up from your boy KGB👍👍. Excellent info and a perfect and easy to understand explanation of how everything works.
Chea
Cannabis is a history teacher if you can translate the language it has every generation locked within showing the intentions of every person who ever touched it and the locations that it’s roots touched thousands of years of human history plays out from form to function . Cannabis gives us a way to interact with our elders of years past when we interact with it . I call it the ambassador of plants a hand reaching out from the forests and gardens of the past so we see the forest for the trees again.
I have felt this with certain cultivars like land races and basic hybrids. Almost like you can tell the intent of the high the people that created it on top of where it was created. I felt the same way the first time I took the philosophers stone mushroom. I was attached to the mycelium network and I could feel "myself" branching through the soil stretching miles and miles. Cellular memory and holographic universe theory are beyond time and space.
@@NecroG0d Absolutely imagine smoking with the monks of anchor watt or the architects of the great pyramids or the mazatec people of Mexico . They all left some stuff behind that we can touch but they also left us something that can reach out and touch us should we seek it . A telephone to the spirit would that grows from the ground . Should we get lost in life a map leading us back to spirit. What a weird and wonderful world we are on .
@@danwilkinson2797 what beautiful reply I felt it in every cell of my body, Vibrating high this morning thank you very much.
Organics can also be blended with salt based nuts, carefully of course and in limited amounts
Not much point to doing so, the salts will kill off your microbes and make your organic amendments basically unusable.
Organic super soil is king 💯
The terps don't lie.
Don't panic, keep it organic
Nitrogen is nitrogen and so on with every element. Once it's broken down enough for the plant to use there is no difference.
not true...
@@lucky-gh5ox Does nitrogen magically become something else?
@@TruthHurts2u Organic nutrients are chelated by fatty acids. The difference is night and day. Like anal sex with lube or without.
Oh, and cannabinoids and cannabis aromas are synthesized from those fatty acids. Different microbes produce different fatty acids. I have different soil for different strains. Tell me I'm wasting my time mixing organic soils after smoking my herb. You'll actually get high and actually taste cannabis flavor metabolites for the first time in your life, instead of failed chemical reactions and incomplete metabolism. All your bud turns to dust, doesn't have a unique effect, and tastes like McDonald's grade at best.
Yep. Salts just cut out the middle man (microbes).
I use mainly organic and will supplement with salts. I think most people would have more success with that, but im always outdoors and I've never used a pesticide, especially on something grown for consumption
Done responsibly run to waste mineral systems are capable of remineralization of areas in need. Definitely a more probiotic approach.
Hey Derek, are these new videos or old ones from the Ganjiar videos from a couple years ago??
why would you buy fertilizer when you can make it urself with freaking buckets and water and weeds lmao it works so good just leave it for a couple weeks or months
Hell yea
Soil King & Build A Soil 💯Building your soil is a lot more natural and simple than learning chemical breakdowns of salts in a tub of water.
Not everyone has the time to wait for months. Even though i support organic growing and making your own compost, by the time you wait for your compost you could already veg a plant and make it ready for flowering, you would only have to spend some money on nutes.
If you live in an apartment it's difficult to find a place to make your own fertilizers. And the smell is too strong. Especially if you live where it's illegal, you don't want to attract attention by the neighbors.
If you grow in your own soil and not adding any more nutes, of course you have to use very big pots, because supersoils or living soils don't work properly in small pots. And very big pots indoors in your home are not practical, too heavy, too much water, too messy, and too big plants.
I think making your own soil is the best choice, but only if you had a farm, land or a field. Nice weather at least half the year, and plenty of time. And of course, a stash of nice medicine you can buy, or saved from last grow. If you're in a hurry, ain't nobody got time to make a soil :)
And it's easier for new growers to follow a simple easy schedule with nutes. When building a soil, it's difficult for someone who never grew plants and knows nothing about botany, agriculture, gardening etc.
Sorry Sir, i respect your opinion and i would love to grow outdoors naturally but for me it's impossible right now, so i have to do as organic as i can with Biobizz bottled nutes.
@@twentytwo138 I disagree. Mixing a decent organic soil is fairly easy and you don't have to mess with ppm meters. There are organic dry amendment mixes that are good enough for a first time grower. Then all they need is water and some top dressing for flower.
@@comfortablynumb9342 Ok and how large the pot must be? Can you do it in 1 gallon pots for a small stealth indoor grow? And can you prepare the soil in few days or a week maximum?
Great video! Really enjoyed this content!
Very informative Simon Hart.
Great vid with plenty of knowledge. Keep it up guys
Thank you Bud🍀🍀🍀🍀
I started organic and never went back.
I grow with ghe ( terra aquatica) and I will buy the canna bio pack because I want a better final product , I made a 600 w hps and some outdoor autos and feminised , nice video , gtotek has some cal max I use it a lot .
I'm organic grower now, mostly. but no flushing, that black ash comes from a bad cure. in my experience anyways 😁
Personally i only encountered black ash from plants grown in hydro or coco, with cheap synthetic nutrients and no flushing.. But much less when grown in soils.. I've smoked badly dried and cured buds, and while the ash was dark it was not completely black, it didn't crackle and turn into hard charcoal. I think there's a big difference between a badly cured black ash, and overly fertilized with salts black ash.
Black ash comes from nutrients still in the flower. Flush needed at end for fade.
@@dalanwanbdiska6542 i cant really flush organics with live soil, the fade does still come, usually from genetics or temps. ive grown over 20 cycles but only 5 total organic, and thats outdoor greenhouse, so last 5 years organic. never flush (cant) still get fade and or colour changes tho.
@@twentytwo138 dam man, ive never smoked anything that turned to hard charcoal like ash..... id stay away from that, imagine whats happening in your lungs from that.. ;)
Black ash is from to much nitrogen left in the flower. No amount of cure will get that out.
Science says flushing has no effect on yield or taste (blind taste study)
Link?
@@P2Feener305 ruclips.net/video/W-3ZZJyk5lc/видео.html Dr bugbee works with nasa on plant science and biology him and his lab has done tons of research he just did one about how much light pollution effects cannabis. I stop feeding two weeks before harvest because it doesn't have an effect on yield so why feed the last two weeks
Indeed
Bursting organic bros's bubbles?😅
Well that was very informative. Thanks.
I like this session it was very eye-opening are you salt 🧂 based fertilizers but also combined fish fertilizer worm castings and I add microbes to clean the roots and to help the uptake y'all have a great day out there hehehe
Any opinions on using "Green powder" supplement found in vitamin sections at stores for nutrients in watering plants...?
Can we do a how to make the desert bloom video?
If you are just starting out it makes more sense to use fertilizer until you get your compost ready to use then switch to organic
Wow!!!! Great talk guys I really appreciate it! Leaned a lot ,literally.
500 million years
Is there anywhere I can get credible help with a synorganic grow as Simon was so confident on mixing both together? I've only done organic in fabric pots before. Thx
Cheers
It held my first reply, sorry.. i wrote this basic long thing. Censorship for ya.. 🤷♂
Just spent 20k on ac and dehu but damnnnn it feels good to be a gangstaaa. IL Medical 🏥 in the house 🏡! Do it right, save a life. #dontpanicitsorganic #M’sintheAIR #landminesfortheweednerds
Great info. Thanks
I keep hearing this over and over 1/2 organic & 1/2 synthetic?
If everything I've ever learned from trusted source and from my own expiernce 50+ years is wrong, then perhaps yes you can mix it up anyway you like it...
As for me and my house we won't be contributing to Mon_san_tow, Bay_er or any more for X_on.
We be free and with the Baddest bud🌾😎✌❤
All our inputs are locally procured from nature and produced fresh by our own hands and recipes. Peace out✌
@@nealcassady1189 The proof is in the bud. We grow boutique bud for gifts to friends. Not trying to become the next mega millionaire.
Peace out ✌Hippie bro grow is plenty good for me. Our bud is our branding. We dont need no marketing. 😉
@@nealcassady1189 the scientists and exspurts say it's good to get the 💉 and all the boosters too. No worries it's actually good for you they say. You do you and I'll do me.
Very important to put a base down during the transition phase as well as maybe larger space nothing but a very big root zone and very big flowers currently running auto pots Biological activity is a must living soil is a must
Kinda related, but this reminds me of foods and medicine we eat. Processed foods and manufactured medicine isn't that good for us, but natural things found in nature are better.
Does anyone else see Richard Gere in Derek...? 🤔
I use both always excellent Simon👏
The bears bring the fish in to the Forrest but more to the point, yes, they eventually take a shit in the woods
What came first the chicken or egg ? What came first minerals or cells ? If the world was created by elements combining that created living life . Then hydroponics with salt base nutrients which are in the purest form will create superior products.
I agree. Surely everything breaks down to elements.
My plants ❤️ Urea for nitrogen
I made an wonderful mix I'll show my plant off when done
Most of the companies selling organics though aren't really being honest most of the those products are really high in heavy metals the way a lot of them are producing their kelp it has arsonic diatomaceous earth and other ground powdered rock products have heavy metals and most organic gardeners like to keep their soil around forever so those heavy metals just keep accumulating
White and Black ash has more to do with the dry and cure stage than the “flush” stage. There’s been some great articles written over the last two years.
I cured a batch with no flush ,black ash. Flush before harvest to get rid of all shit so plant eats itself and turns yellow. Flush and cure always , always gets me white ash. I harvest alot a year so i know it just not from a cure. flush is definitely needed.
I was going to say the same thing but no one in this echo chamber cares.
Do you grow? I smoke fresh herb (less than 24hr cure) quite a bit. It all burns white when I smoke it regardless of cure. In Ground and Organic grower. I wonder if it has more to do with pesticide spray than flushing
very good video.
The only inconvenience you will see is better and bigger yields with growing organic 😅💪🏽😎🍋
Watch out the bears don’t eat your stash.
11:08 that's why one should use alfalfa grown home rather than buying kelp.
but only one has electrolytes. which is what plants crave.
Smart kush heads👍
ferments fer da win YAheard
This is true…
I want Come and do some work
Canned fish, bones skins and all works great!
Interesting
Too bad you didn't cover growing in straight compost, to see how that would fare against the salts and organic stuff.
Compost is a good ingredient in soil but I found that it needs more aeration (perlite/ vermiculite/ pumice pebbles) to grow healthy roots. Only compost becomes hydrophobic and matted together after a while and the plants suffer
Mills pays the bills
Thought that was the guy from Gaia Green 🤔
The plant doesn't know or care if its salt base or organic. And found out in alot of the organic fertilizers have heavy metals in it so
True, however, in terms of growing and maintaining 'living soil', it has far more stability in terms of chelated nutrients primarily driven by the symbiotic relationship with biology (mashkiki)...you don't get that in flushed system. I predict as our understanding and context of terpenes, enzymes, and exudates grow, the more depth of function(s) will appear, like Crop steering perhaps.
-Grow on-
Salts inside, organics outside.
You can’t flush out fertilizers
Just feeding them what left in the soil. True nothing is been flush out. Flush is the wrong name. More like feeding them nothing.
@@jjarry starving
Will the fox farm salts kill microbes
Salt base nutrients suck if you care how your flower taste and the effect lol
Nonsense.
1000% agreed salt based synthetic nutrient lines are disgusting
Salt based nutes actually in turn hurt what we are trying to achieve. In many ways.
How do you know.
@@dalanwanbdiska6542 salt based nutrients actually remove the work from and for the microorganisms, therefore it removes the biology from the soil. If you are running salt nutes you don't need biology so...yes, salt based nutes hurt what organics offers. I've done all 3 salt, A mixture of organic ammendments and salts and strictly teas and top dressing. All of them work good 👍 it's all on the person. But if you want your crops to get better each time go organic
@@dalanwanbdiska6542 Salts will kill off microbial life very quickly. If growing mostly Organic, but if using a small amount of mineral salts, as a bloom booster, this works great and I've always had the whitest ash, great taste!👍💯✌️
@@smurfigee does not matter which way you go if done right as the plant uses that same nuts at the end of the day, the plants has no idea which way you went.
@ that is true 👍 IF DONE RIGHT!! And the grower would have to get better with the cultivar. In organics the medium keeps getting better and so does the grower.
Not sure why this is never discussed .. organic salt will really bump up your organics game, himalayan salt, .. Hawaiian salt ..
Derek.. better get ready for all the debates from all the newage "master growers" in the replies on this one 😆
"New age master growers " = definition of oxymoron 😆
I lol when hear ppl knock mircle gro umm scotts owns general hydroponics its all comin from same place in dif form or label is all🤣🤣💯
Teas teas teas all day
Teas are pretentious. Change my mind.
What's a tea gonna do that mixing dry amendments, compost and manure straight into the soil cannot?
@@fattymcbastard6536 u do that too but feed your microbes after in the soil with tea teas n more teas.
@@fattymcbastard6536 A tea done correctly hyper accelerates the microbiology to procreate by essentially using oxygen and sugar. Good ol' bubble stones and unsulfured molasses, something adding amendments straight to the soil cannot do.
@@NecroG0d That makes sense, actually. It raises a question pertaining to the sustainability of the microbes once added to the soil. Intuitively it would seem that most would die off or go dormant considering the soil environment contains less oxygen, right? I guess it doesn't matter though. When the tea is ready, it's ready I suppose. Full of plant-available nutrients requiring no further breakdown... like manure and compost.
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Come on guys. The organic amendments are also developed in laboratories and produced in factories. Practice whatever type of agriculture that pleases you. But when you display such bias you lose all credibility.
Salts are best for the environment- precision feeding is the game - organics is how you rob land. Organics only break down to the salts. 🤷🏼♂️
If an Organic ingredient has no salt in it, or even any, it's nothing like use mineral salts that have ruined our Soil life in most areas. Much less Micronutrients from Mineral Salts has made our food much less nutrient dense.
A Carrot from 50 years ago? It requires 50 Carrots nowadays to get the same amount of Beta Carotene from that one Carrot 50 years ago.
Our modern day, mineral salt nutrients used by most farmers have destroyed our food and soils.
Not that Manures and other natural ingredients don't cause damage, as well as getting into the grounds water supply, but we've learned much from The Aztecs, and hopefully we can use these procedures to enrich and bring plenty of life back into the soil.👍💯✌️
@@timturk1899 you wouldn’t be alive with out them
Organics way better than synthetic man made nutrients
@@sageninja7260 organic nutrients are made and packaged by the same companies. Unless you’re doing everything your self, it’s not. It’s also not sustainable - but everyone knows this.
@@DavidWood-qw8rq but it was taken from natural sources, not getting extracted and made in the lab like the synthetic ones.
If you want to do organic, you should amend the soil the year before planting. It gives the nutrients time to break down into a usable form for the plant. Technically, there is no benefits over one versus the other one ( synthetic) except for synthetic products are more easily available for the plant, but will accumulate salts in the soil so rotation is important. It's a myth that organic makes better taste. Just no scientific evidence of this.
This is coming from organic nerds!!! Lol
Knf
Build A Soil an Giai Green...
Biobizz. It's all I have ever used.