@Commander Cockings Quaternary = fourth in order of rank. You've made a ship with primary, secondary, tertiary, and quaternary nacelles. That's baller.
I gotta say, I havent seen a startrek ship that wowed me in a loooong time... but this is fantastic, its just so perfect and not too crazy but yet; its so different, well done!
At first glance it also suggests it could have a similar role to what the American B1-B bomber was designed for. Go in fast drop it's payload and get out before anyone knows what happened
So, basically the warp drive on this ship works similar to a V8 that shuts down 4 cycliders while at cruising speed but reactives when acceleration occurs.
Okay, you sold me on the design. The idea of being built to cruise at max warp thanks to purpose built sustainers is the kind of clever Trek tech exploitation I love. It’s a fairly straightforward extrapolation of tech we have already seen, without the condescending attitude of them using their own tech incorrectly.
I get the urge to yell COOOOOOCKINGS!How could you keep it from us?Not even a hint?It must have killed you not saying anything.Fantastic job designing it.And you had a famous co-creator.Amazing.The best part is it fits the design aesthetics of post TNG/Voyager era.This ship deserves to be in the new Picard series.It's that good.
@@jimmynorris1314 There is an NX-01A, it isn't a starfleet ship, but it is disguised as one. It is Arturis' ship from the Voyager episode "Hope and Fear," and Arturis called it the USS Dauntless, at least for the the sake of the ruse. The USS Horizon has elements that look similar to the USS Dauntless NX-01A.
I really don't understand the fascination with the Multi-vectored attack mode. Taking a presumably well-armed, powerful ship with the delta-v for subspace maneuvering and power for shields and whatnot, then splitting it into smaller thus, weaker ships. Resources are divided among them including all the internal volume that is wasted on delta-v reservoirs, warp cores for each, not to mention each segment requires a command staff that assume C&C at a moment's notice. Also, if even one segment is destroyed in combat, the larger ship is that much weaker going forward if it's even able to so at all.
Agreed, it's better to deploy drones like the PreFed Andorians did. I was thinking more of using the Minotaur class warp fighter/bomber as drones that can be deployed in battle. Have several of them docked to the ship's hull in hardpoints and be able to make more of them as they're supposed to be expendable. Better yet, use several automated Delta Flyer as expendable attack drones.
Sorry to resurrect a old comment, but I think the reasoning for a multi-vectored attack mode ship is when in a one on one battle the enemy is able to shunt power to the shield facing the enemy making it harder to breach the shields and taking longer in battle. Having a ship able to split up into several and attack from multiple vectors allows for a faster take down of the shields as energy resources are spread trying to take defend from multiple angles. We see this in the Voyager episode Message in a bottle when the Romulan controlled Prometheus is able to disable a dominion era Nebula class ship while at warp, and they did so extremely fast. It's harder for a single ship to defend against multiple targets. Plus each segment of the Prometheus was designed to either be controlled by the ships computer via attack patterns or by each segments bridge/ battle bridge.
I love the bottom stepping and integration of the deflector and what I assume is a quantum torpedo launcher. This is a great example of how to blend the primary and secondary hull into one singular hull. Well done Commander.
Gotta admit when I saw the bottom and the warp sustainers I thought, "get rid of those". But after you explained it I was on board, and I was thinking marathon runner just before Foley said it. Awesome ship.
The front hull is more shark nosed. I like the way you integrated in a second set of warp engines there and they curve down enough that they get line of sight to comply with cannon. It is probably a tactical ship so that shark like nose makes the statement.
Totally love the cut of the ship. Great concept and design. Looking for even more in future presentations with bridge and interior design and concepts. Good job.
Nice to see an video on this design. Loving it more myself and can't wait to see Part 2. Loving the additional nacelles and the explanation of it which makes sense.
First off it's very pleasing to the eye. As someone who likes the Prometheus. The would be the moment where I say this is where I feel it should progress to. The "saucer" section kinda looks like a rounded sharks tooth. Again pleasing to the eye. The side profile is pretty good too. It doesn't look clunky like with the saber. The layering effect as it goes up in levels is a nice touch I've always enjoyed. I even get a sense that the Dauntless is incorporated into the hull shapes. Just it's overall roundness, narrow areas, and drawn in under the saucer. Regarding the nacelles, it makes more sense once explained. I also like the captain's way of describing it. A marathon runner as opposed to a sprinter. It's a nice trade off. I like how the Delta Flyer's tip nacelles were incorporated. They feel more natural than a lot of other hull borne nacelles. The rest look well placed. The cant on the main ones even fits. The double hanger is a nice touch. For some reason I wanted to think this was smaller too. For me the windows and such simply suggested it used it's space more wisely. Thus it could be made more easily. The windows made me feel it less tactical in purpose.Though there is no reason why a design couldn't be used for multiple purposes. I can't wait to see more. The only thing left is... I'll take one in gun metal grey. There's extra gold pressed latinum in it if you add WWII style nose art on the tail before it curves to the shuttle bay doors. Make it of Bender saying the words "Bite my shiny metal ass!" Have him one foot resting on a Borg cube Captain Morgan style.
just... WOW. I like the Nova elements and the Dauntless influences, I would instantly buy a model kit of that baby. Buuuut I have to admit I would leave the underslung nacelles out, those nested in the main nacelles. O think they deter from the primaries and the lowermost set. Those on the other hand look like extender fuel tanks under a fighter plane, which I like. OUTSTANDING work, Cmdr.C
I see Nova nacelles, a "Dauntless" type of saucer (appears to crossover with Prometheus), with Delta Flyer-style warp engines on the saucer as well as deflector dish. Very nice design!
Fantastic work, the ship fits, it is in universe language. the underside shot of the Horizon is my favourite in a long time, the deflector array took me right back to when I was a child seeing the Excelsior for the first time, the ship has a loving warmth to it!. well done.
Pretty freaking cool I have to say. I didn't like the crazy number of nacelles. But after hearing the explaination of their purpose, I'm on board. Nice design. Well thought out.
So you're saying this is what Voyager should have been? I love it. It's super sleek and good looking, and being able to sustain high warp for longer periods of time is a very nice touch to the design of this ship.
hahaha xD But far more than the sumb of its parts as it was not designed to be any of them specifically...but a shape that worked and a form follows function engine system :D
Love the top 3/4 view and the saucer integrated warp nacelles. That’s how the Prometheus should have made its saucer warp capable rather than that dinky little pop up nacelles. The bottom is a little busy but you sold it the specialized function. That said, no Quantum Slipstream? Some of the shapes seem almost too specifically Dauntless inspired to be anything but a design based on Voyager’s scans of said ship. I guess they could’ve had this in the works before Voyager got home/starting communicating back and forth, and the advances in standard warp hull geometry just happen to be similar slipstream geometry. A bit coincidental since while it was plausibly Federation, the Dauntless was stated as pretty different “I’ve never seen that kind of hull geometry, it’s looks like their taking a whole new approach to starship design”. I always imagined something like that would happen when Voyager got home. The original slipstream tech was perfectly stable, Voyager just had the wrong hull geometry for it. The later modified version created to work with Voyagers hull geometry, with the Borg tech and benamite crystals, was the unstable one. Maybe it’s oversimplified but designing a ship based on the Dauntless hull geometry and that original tech would be job one for figuring out slipstream. And that’s what this read to me at first glance with that very specific Dauntless shape. Instead we got the Vesta that was supposed to be the first, which I love too but that to me should have been a later slipstream capable class. But very cool in any case, maybe I’m overestimating the similarities with Dauntless, but it really reads that at first glance.
Such connections...or in universe coinsidental Dauntless connections are all worked out and will be talked about at a different time, as we didnt want to give it all away for the mission briefing. No she cant slipstream as for me that breaks the universe if everyone can go that fast, then the quadrent...and just space becomes much much smaller and many stories just cant be told, so since those books arent canon...and im trying to make this feel like a voyager S8 ship..i just went on a development of the canon we saw :D Love your paragraph here...nice to see fans can break down my thought process..just from the design....as i said...form most follow function...which means you can extrapolate function from form ;)
I was about to comment that it should have been named "Marathon" before the Captain's last comment. It is an interesting concept. One thing that I think it making the ship feel a little smaller than it is is the size of the RCS thrusters on the saucer. The only other change I think I'd make is to remove the bussard collectors on the quarternary nacelles. This is really cool, though, and absolutely perfect for the time period.
Well the commander did say they haven't figured out the class name of the ship yet. They can still keep it as the horizon but have the class name as marathon class.
Primary hull looks like the delta flyer. Waiting for the images of it in multi vector assault mode. Because come on u know its coming. Looks awesome. Can't wait to see more
It's an alright looking ship. I do like the overall shape, though I was a little dubious of those primary hull nacelles when I saw them. Then I saw the other four nacelles and said to myself: "Alright, mate...can we back it up just a little?" It's good that they all have a useful purpose that fits its design profile; I'm totally on board with the warp sustainer concept. But it just looks a little too busy. Overall, I'd give it a 6/10. Also, why are the little integrated warp nacelles considered the secondary system?
ITs dang cool, and its hung with warp naccelles underside, that have a dual role of claspers like a shark, so if stuck deep in space it can mate with another starship and create offspring ships to colonize a distant part of the galaxy.
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Trying to figure out the mission profile for this ship. If it's just being used in the Alpha Quadrant, it would be a superfast courier but that's not what's needed for that many nacelles and just needs a faster than warp propulsion if it's available. The Quad Warp Nacelle assembly of the Constellation class is what's the long range sustained high warp was designed for. As the tertiary nacelles, i was thinking more of an optional addon feature that would only be needed in case of very long range sustained travel like Voyager returning back to the AQ. This looks more like an experimental new warp tech like Prometheus was a testbed for the Multi-Vector Assault Mode design. Was hoping that the ship would be using alternative FTL propulsion methods like coaxial warp or graviton catapult and that the extra pairs of nacelles are dedicated for them. IMHO, the hirogen ships are designed&built to use a graviton catapult using their communication array to jump between nodes travelling faster than warp and that's something that post Voyager ships should incorporate into their design. Actually any post Voyager ships should be able to deploy coaxial warp modifications without any major changes to the standard starfleet ships design. The ravtion catapult being something that the main deflector and primary warp coil can do as it's very too similar to what Barclay did with the Ent-D to take the ship to the Cytherian star system. Anyway what did the liquid deuterium Voyager duplicate developed for their Faster Than Warp propulsion, does the USS Horizon has deployed something similar to warrant that many warp nacelles.
Well done with the model; it looks very well constructed. Its a bit too busy for me (underside of the secondary hull for example) but I can appreciate the effort that went into it.
Rick Stenrbach co-designed this with me so it has all the things it needs to have and the ammount of warp coils is very specific. The top view is actually rather simple, yes the bottom gets more complicated but again...reason for it! :D
I appreciate that there are reasons for the design and that a lot of thought went into it but at the end of the day it just doesn't click with me and that's okay it's just not my cup of tea so to speak :)
oh sure! Not everyone can like everything ^.^...such as the Enterprise J which is 50% love it and 50% hate it it seems...and yano...some people still hate the Enterprise D design :O
I like it so far. Im a big fan of the "speartip"/"arrowhead " design. I think 8 nacelles might be a wee bit overkill, but Cockings is from across the pond and they have Games Workshop who invented Warhammer 40k and it doesnt get any more overkill than that.
Watching this in the far future, and right at 17:35 you guys made me imagine.... Voyager.... with 4 nacelles..... but manticore style, right on top of each other. Its current nacelles would work perfectly for it to. If they can make the delta flyer? Idk it could be too had but if you could sustain high warp for longer...
I love it. Reminds me of the Prometheus class without multi-vector assault mode. Exploratory/Scientific version of the Prometheus. I say that simply because of the lack of 4 warp nacelles. I could be wrong. I haven't watched enough to see what it's really designed for. This is just my first impression.
You're clearly very talented Cockings, as designs go it's highly detailed. I'm not a fan of the shape though, but nor am I a fan of the Intrepid or Prometheus, I just don't like that aesthetic. The Sovereign is about as pointy as I like, anything more and it loses me. But this is purely a taste thing, the design is excellent, especially if you are a fan of that aesthetic.
Yep thats fair enough! We all cant like every ship...like the Ent J 50% love it 50% hate it...and many still hate the Ent D design?!?!...so yeh...cant please everyone...but thanks for seeing past that at the details and the thought put in! Enjoy the episode!
@@SGUDistantHope wow Commander it sure looked like it could from the bottom view and separate into 3 like Prometheus. It's still an awesome looking ships all the same. I'm sure Rick Sternbach and Captain Foley are extremely proud of your design as you are. LOL you could have left the non separation detail for your big mic drop for part 2 lol.
A ship needs only barely bumped on one engine and the first words out of an officer's mouth is warp drive offline. 4 pairs of engines seems silly but hey, you get shot three times in a row and still have warp escape capability.
i think the term u look for is probably Deep space Explorer on the next level >_< im actualy pretty impressed by the idea and design, like it quite a bit ^^
First impression, I really liked it. Then I noticed the extra nacelles and I was like huh. I wondered if the hull was a bit long to be in proportion with the nacelles but the extra ones balance that out. Looks built for speed. I wonder about the phaser coverage for the leading edge. There might be some blind spots unless the emitter strips function like turrets at the edges which would be cool.
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The top down looks like the Prometheus had a baby with the Delta Flyer.
Vuuuury Niiiiice, Also obligatory Xzibit Meme: "Yo dawg, I heard you like nacelles..." :P
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So we put nacelles in yo nacelles!!!!
Ooh, she’s a pretty ship. Lovely arrowhead design.
I'd say it's more like a rounded shark's tooth.
London class please. Something different.
@Commander Cockings
Quaternary = fourth in order of rank. You've made a ship with primary, secondary, tertiary, and quaternary nacelles. That's baller.
Thanks for the clarification! And each have a specific reason for their existence and are designed differently according to said function! :D
its a really cool design. It reminds me of the delta flyer/prometheus had a baby I like it very streamline
Makes me think of a Nova-Prometheus lovechild.
I gotta say, I havent seen a startrek ship that wowed me in a loooong time... but this is fantastic, its just so perfect and not too crazy but yet; its so different, well done!
Thank you!!!!!! That also means a hell of a lot!
you're welcome! :)
It has the warp equivalent of "Supercruise" like the F-22 does; neat!
nice comparison
At first glance it also suggests it could have a similar role to what the American B1-B bomber was designed for. Go in fast drop it's payload and get out before anyone knows what happened
So, basically the warp drive on this ship works similar to a V8 that shuts down 4 cycliders while at cruising speed but reactives when acceleration occurs.
an absolutely beautiful ship!
epic design get a petition up for ben and eaglemoss to make this a model
awesome ship great work Command,
Wow! I love this ship. This is amazing. You should submit it to STO cause I would love to fly it in game
Thomas Kaznowski and the Picard series
Oh that would be so much fun, to fly it in STO
Impressive stands out perfectly
Okay, you sold me on the design. The idea of being built to cruise at max warp thanks to purpose built sustainers is the kind of clever Trek tech exploitation I love. It’s a fairly straightforward extrapolation of tech we have already seen, without the condescending attitude of them using their own tech incorrectly.
Thanks!
I get the urge to yell COOOOOOCKINGS!How could you keep it from us?Not even a hint?It must have killed you not saying anything.Fantastic job designing it.And you had a famous co-creator.Amazing.The best part is it fits the design aesthetics of post TNG/Voyager era.This ship deserves to be in the new Picard series.It's that good.
Only thing I'm not too keen on are the belly nacelles. Otherwise I love it.
Well, the belly nacelles and those almost-nacelles on the bottom of the primary nacelles. Eight nacelles, honestly, is beyond overkill.
Looks pretty from the Thumbnail. Like elements from the NX-01a and the Delta Flyer and the Sovereign, and the Prometheus; and it's just awesome :)
Matt Mon there is no NX-01A
@@jimmynorris1314
There is an NX-01A, it isn't a starfleet ship, but it is disguised as one. It is Arturis' ship from the Voyager episode "Hope and Fear," and Arturis called it the USS Dauntless, at least for the the sake of the ruse.
The USS Horizon has elements that look similar to the USS Dauntless NX-01A.
Matt Mon you’re right mate. I forgot about that
I got that same vibe, the Prometheus/Sovereign cross.
Cockings I love the design man keep up the good work
I really don't understand the fascination with the Multi-vectored attack mode. Taking a presumably well-armed, powerful ship with the delta-v for subspace maneuvering and power for shields and whatnot, then splitting it into smaller thus, weaker ships. Resources are divided among them including all the internal volume that is wasted on delta-v reservoirs, warp cores for each, not to mention each segment requires a command staff that assume C&C at a moment's notice. Also, if even one segment is destroyed in combat, the larger ship is that much weaker going forward if it's even able to so at all.
Well the USS Horizon cant separate, either saucer saucer separate or multi vector :) a single ship design!
Agreed, it's better to deploy drones like the PreFed Andorians did. I was thinking more of using the Minotaur class warp fighter/bomber as drones that can be deployed in battle. Have several of them docked to the ship's hull in hardpoints and be able to make more of them as they're supposed to be expendable. Better yet, use several automated Delta Flyer as expendable attack drones.
Sorry to resurrect a old comment, but I think the reasoning for a multi-vectored attack mode ship is when in a one on one battle the enemy is able to shunt power to the shield facing the enemy making it harder to breach the shields and taking longer in battle. Having a ship able to split up into several and attack from multiple vectors allows for a faster take down of the shields as energy resources are spread trying to take defend from multiple angles. We see this in the Voyager episode Message in a bottle when the Romulan controlled Prometheus is able to disable a dominion era Nebula class ship while at warp, and they did so extremely fast. It's harder for a single ship to defend against multiple targets. Plus each segment of the Prometheus was designed to either be controlled by the ships computer via attack patterns or by each segments bridge/ battle bridge.
Takes cues from the Prometheus and the Delta Flyer. I like it
That side view is killer!
I love the bottom stepping and integration of the deflector and what I assume is a quantum torpedo launcher. This is a great example of how to blend the primary and secondary hull into one singular hull. Well done Commander.
Yes! Thats the single quantum launcher..integrated in subtly like the Ent E's is. Thank you! Its certainly a bit of a different ship haha!
Very nice details and shape of the Hull very good design commander!
You have always accomplished the most amazing details. Absolutely awesome. As always, please continue making it so.
Gotta admit when I saw the bottom and the warp sustainers I thought, "get rid of those".
But after you explained it I was on board, and I was thinking marathon runner just before Foley said it.
Awesome ship.
The front hull is more shark nosed. I like the way you integrated in a second set of warp engines there and they curve down enough that they get line of sight to comply with cannon. It is probably a tactical ship so that shark like nose makes the statement.
I love how the first few decks carry one all the way back to the aft of the ship as opposed to tapering off in the saucer section...just lovely
Love your analysis. Nice design!
Beautiful ship...
Totally love the cut of the ship. Great concept and design. Looking for even more in future presentations with bridge and interior design and concepts. Good job.
Nice to see an video on this design. Loving it more myself and can't wait to see Part 2. Loving the additional nacelles and the explanation of it which makes sense.
Liking it so far, looking forward to seeing deck plans and such.
First off it's very pleasing to the eye. As someone who likes the Prometheus. The would be the moment where I say this is where I feel it should progress to. The "saucer" section kinda looks like a rounded sharks tooth. Again pleasing to the eye. The side profile is pretty good too. It doesn't look clunky like with the saber. The layering effect as it goes up in levels is a nice touch I've always enjoyed. I even get a sense that the Dauntless is incorporated into the hull shapes. Just it's overall roundness, narrow areas, and drawn in under the saucer.
Regarding the nacelles, it makes more sense once explained. I also like the captain's way of describing it. A marathon runner as opposed to a sprinter. It's a nice trade off. I like how the Delta Flyer's tip nacelles were incorporated. They feel more natural than a lot of other hull borne nacelles. The rest look well placed. The cant on the main ones even fits.
The double hanger is a nice touch.
For some reason I wanted to think this was smaller too. For me the windows and such simply suggested it used it's space more wisely. Thus it could be made more easily. The windows made me feel it less tactical in purpose.Though there is no reason why a design couldn't be used for multiple purposes.
I can't wait to see more. The only thing left is... I'll take one in gun metal grey. There's extra gold pressed latinum in it if you add WWII style nose art on the tail before it curves to the shuttle bay doors. Make it of Bender saying the words "Bite my shiny metal ass!" Have him one foot resting on a Borg cube Captain Morgan style.
Interesting ideas in this design.
Yeah, I got the vibe that it was like a cross between a Prometheus and Sovereign class.
She's not designed for sprinting, cap'n. She runs the whole marathon, agh! (Scotty accent).
Beautiful ship, Cmdr Cockings. You did an amazing job on her.
Also, fantastic episode gentlemen. I hope to see more like this one. :)
The design of this ship is so beautiful. It looks super sleek, really fast and it looks like it can hold its on in a fight
just... WOW. I like the Nova elements and the Dauntless influences, I would instantly buy a model kit of that baby. Buuuut I have to admit I would leave the underslung nacelles out, those nested in the main nacelles. O think they deter from the primaries and the lowermost set. Those on the other hand look like extender fuel tanks under a fighter plane, which I like. OUTSTANDING work, Cmdr.C
I'm massively impressed with this ship. It's now one of my favourites.
It’s a beauty.
AWESOME ship! I'd buy it if it were in STO!
I see Nova nacelles, a "Dauntless" type of saucer (appears to crossover with Prometheus), with Delta Flyer-style warp engines on the saucer as well as deflector dish. Very nice design!
I never actually looked at the nova for inspiration haha...funny that!
Its like the Delta Fly (The Saucer) Strapped onto a nova Class Secondary Hull.
Fantastic work, the ship fits, it is in universe language. the underside shot of the Horizon is my favourite in a long time, the deflector array took me right back to when I was a child seeing the Excelsior for the first time, the ship has a loving warmth to it!. well done.
Pretty freaking cool I have to say. I didn't like the crazy number of nacelles. But after hearing the explaination of their purpose, I'm on board. Nice design. Well thought out.
I see alot of the USS Dauntless in this ship. Just added a "few" more nassles XD
I thought the same.
So you're saying this is what Voyager should have been? I love it. It's super sleek and good looking, and being able to sustain high warp for longer periods of time is a very nice touch to the design of this ship.
The USS Horizon looks like an assault heavy Cruiser.
0:50 seconds in, I see Prometheus. I see Delta Flyer. A little bit Nova. Love it!
hahaha xD But far more than the sumb of its parts as it was not designed to be any of them specifically...but a shape that worked and a form follows function engine system :D
The Arrowhead Class!!
The ship looks great - Gratz on the reveal!
Love the top 3/4 view and the saucer integrated warp nacelles. That’s how the Prometheus should have made its saucer warp capable rather than that dinky little pop up nacelles. The bottom is a little busy but you sold it the specialized function. That said, no Quantum Slipstream? Some of the shapes seem almost too specifically Dauntless inspired to be anything but a design based on Voyager’s scans of said ship. I guess they could’ve had this in the works before Voyager got home/starting communicating back and forth, and the advances in standard warp hull geometry just happen to be similar slipstream geometry. A bit coincidental since while it was plausibly Federation, the Dauntless was stated as pretty different “I’ve never seen that kind of hull geometry, it’s looks like their taking a whole new approach to starship design”. I always imagined something like that would happen when Voyager got home. The original slipstream tech was perfectly stable, Voyager just had the wrong hull geometry for it. The later modified version created to work with Voyagers hull geometry, with the Borg tech and benamite crystals, was the unstable one. Maybe it’s oversimplified but designing a ship based on the Dauntless hull geometry and that original tech would be job one for figuring out slipstream. And that’s what this read to me at first glance with that very specific Dauntless shape. Instead we got the Vesta that was supposed to be the first, which I love too but that to me should have been a later slipstream capable class. But very cool in any case, maybe I’m overestimating the similarities with Dauntless, but it really reads that at first glance.
Such connections...or in universe coinsidental Dauntless connections are all worked out and will be talked about at a different time, as we didnt want to give it all away for the mission briefing.
No she cant slipstream as for me that breaks the universe if everyone can go that fast, then the quadrent...and just space becomes much much smaller and many stories just cant be told, so since those books arent canon...and im trying to make this feel like a voyager S8 ship..i just went on a development of the canon we saw :D
Love your paragraph here...nice to see fans can break down my thought process..just from the design....as i said...form most follow function...which means you can extrapolate function from form ;)
Would like to see her in STO. Good work.
Thank you!
Awesome design! Was looking forward to this 😊👌
I was about to comment that it should have been named "Marathon" before the Captain's last comment. It is an interesting concept. One thing that I think it making the ship feel a little smaller than it is is the size of the RCS thrusters on the saucer. The only other change I think I'd make is to remove the bussard collectors on the quarternary nacelles. This is really cool, though, and absolutely perfect for the time period.
Well the commander did say they haven't figured out the class name of the ship yet. They can still keep it as the horizon but have the class name as marathon class.
Primary hull looks like the delta flyer. Waiting for the images of it in multi vector assault mode. Because come on u know its coming. Looks awesome. Can't wait to see more
She cannot saucer separate or multi vector :) shes a single ship with a specialist mission profile.
The ship almost looks like a smaller version of the Presidio class tactical command Cruiser from Star Trek online so that's pretty cool.
Alistaire Mordyn precursor?
I think it's obvious that this should be called a Marathon-class vessel.
Man that is sleek....
It's an alright looking ship. I do like the overall shape, though I was a little dubious of those primary hull nacelles when I saw them. Then I saw the other four nacelles and said to myself: "Alright, mate...can we back it up just a little?" It's good that they all have a useful purpose that fits its design profile; I'm totally on board with the warp sustainer concept. But it just looks a little too busy. Overall, I'd give it a 6/10.
Also, why are the little integrated warp nacelles considered the secondary system?
ITs dang cool, and its hung with warp naccelles underside, that have a dual role of claspers like a shark, so if stuck deep in space it can mate with another starship and create offspring ships to colonize a distant part of the galaxy.
Kidding aside, a very sweet ship claspers and all!
just WOW!
Cool looking ship but I bet it takes a few months to realign the warp coils lol
Nice design cmdr. Looks like its fit for the delta quadrent
hopefully!
Awesome ship Cmdr Cockings.
It looks like it has gotten inspiration from the delta flyer
Very impressed.... Can see this going up against the Borg or Dominion. Looks it could double vector with all the warp capability.
Well its not built for battle...but it will sure try! It cannot split or separate no :)
I want the Horizon in STO...MAKE IT HAPPEN!
looks like a crossbreed of the flyer and a rhode island/nova class
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The USS Horizon's ultimate weapon, Ramming Speed.
WOW.Super cool ship.Been waiting for a Cmdr Cockings ship.Would like to see a development video of the whole creation process.
when i saw this it look like a USS dauntless but with a different end
Trying to figure out the mission profile for this ship. If it's just being used in the Alpha Quadrant, it would be a superfast courier but that's not what's needed for that many nacelles and just needs a faster than warp propulsion if it's available. The Quad Warp Nacelle assembly of the Constellation class is what's the long range sustained high warp was designed for. As the tertiary nacelles, i was thinking more of an optional addon feature that would only be needed in case of very long range sustained travel like Voyager returning back to the AQ. This looks more like an experimental new warp tech like Prometheus was a testbed for the Multi-Vector Assault Mode design. Was hoping that the ship would be using alternative FTL propulsion methods like coaxial warp or graviton catapult and that the extra pairs of nacelles are dedicated for them. IMHO, the hirogen ships are designed&built to use a graviton catapult using their communication array to jump between nodes travelling faster than warp and that's something that post Voyager ships should incorporate into their design. Actually any post Voyager ships should be able to deploy coaxial warp modifications without any major changes to the standard starfleet ships design. The ravtion catapult being something that the main deflector and primary warp coil can do as it's very too similar to what Barclay did with the Ent-D to take the ship to the Cytherian star system. Anyway what did the liquid deuterium Voyager duplicate developed for their Faster Than Warp propulsion, does the USS Horizon has deployed something similar to warrant that many warp nacelles.
gee wiz, working with Mr Sternbach, how awesome!
Not a bad looking little ship
Oooh, lovely! Reminds me of the Prometheus.
Nova class had a baby with a prometheus class....
Well done with the model; it looks very well constructed.
Its a bit too busy for me (underside of the secondary hull for example) but I can appreciate the effort that went into it.
Rick Stenrbach co-designed this with me so it has all the things it needs to have and the ammount of warp coils is very specific. The top view is actually rather simple, yes the bottom gets more complicated but again...reason for it! :D
I appreciate that there are reasons for the design and that a lot of thought went into it but at the end of the day it just doesn't click with me and that's okay it's just not my cup of tea so to speak :)
oh sure! Not everyone can like everything ^.^...such as the Enterprise J which is 50% love it and 50% hate it it seems...and yano...some people still hate the Enterprise D design :O
I like it so far. Im a big fan of the "speartip"/"arrowhead " design. I think 8 nacelles might be a wee bit overkill, but Cockings is from across the pond and they have Games Workshop who invented Warhammer 40k and it doesnt get any more overkill than that.
nice design
Watching this in the far future, and right at 17:35 you guys made me imagine.... Voyager.... with 4 nacelles..... but manticore style, right on top of each other. Its current nacelles would work perfectly for it to. If they can make the delta flyer? Idk it could be too had but if you could sustain high warp for longer...
Just from the thumbnail I’m saying! Fuck yes!
I love it. Reminds me of the Prometheus class without multi-vector assault mode. Exploratory/Scientific version of the Prometheus. I say that simply because of the lack of 4 warp nacelles. I could be wrong. I haven't watched enough to see what it's really designed for. This is just my first impression.
damn, great job on this ship, would love to play with it in STO. It really does seem like a natural post Voyager era progression
You're clearly very talented Cockings, as designs go it's highly detailed. I'm not a fan of the shape though, but nor am I a fan of the Intrepid or Prometheus, I just don't like that aesthetic. The Sovereign is about as pointy as I like, anything more and it loses me. But this is purely a taste thing, the design is excellent, especially if you are a fan of that aesthetic.
Yep thats fair enough! We all cant like every ship...like the Ent J 50% love it 50% hate it...and many still hate the Ent D design?!?!...so yeh...cant please everyone...but thanks for seeing past that at the details and the thought put in! Enjoy the episode!
Awesome ship and progression links to fleet. I know this ship has gotta separate like the Prometheus. Can't wait for part 2.
It actually does not separate! :O :D
@@SGUDistantHope wow Commander it sure looked like it could from the bottom view and separate into 3 like Prometheus. It's still an awesome looking ships all the same. I'm sure Rick Sternbach and Captain Foley are extremely proud of your design as you are. LOL you could have left the non separation detail for your big mic drop for part 2 lol.
thanks! and we do mention it in part 2 :D but you asked haha
Dare I suggest: 'Marathon Class Starship'. Hhhmm?
Cockings Class works for me.
So a Prometheus/Nova hybrid? Nice
A ship needs only barely bumped on one engine and the first words out of an officer's mouth is warp drive offline.
4 pairs of engines seems silly but hey, you get shot three times in a row and still have warp escape capability.
I know what you should name the class of ship, the Marathon class.
The USS Cowbell........we need more engines.
i think the term u look for is probably Deep space Explorer on the next level >_< im actualy pretty impressed by the idea and design, like it quite a bit ^^
Just found this little jem! Samuel, I think you have done a fantastic job on this! A very classy/sexy looking ship! Nice job Commander!
She. Cool. Ship.
Please submit that and the defender to game print...I need those 2 ships in my model fleet. I dig it!
Now the captain can get his hands on her ample nacelles if you'll pardon the engineering parlance.He's got plenty to choose from. :)
First impression, I really liked it. Then I noticed the extra nacelles and I was like huh. I wondered if the hull was a bit long to be in proportion with the nacelles but the extra ones balance that out. Looks built for speed.
I wonder about the phaser coverage for the leading edge. There might be some blind spots unless the emitter strips function like turrets at the edges which would be cool.