AUTISM vs. ADHD similarities and differences
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Okay, I just need to talk about this. Last night I overheard my brother talk to my mom about a student he's tutoring who has ADHD, who is a boy. And I'm a girl with ADHD. And I wanted to make a light joke about the fact that me and the student both have ADHD, so I said "if you have any questions about motivation and ADHD, you have someone right here who can help you 😉 😉". Immediately both my mom and my brother were like but it's different because this, this, this, and this. And yeah there are differences on how men and women present, ADHD, but there are a lot of similarities...
They made me feel really invalid... it's almost like my brother said "I know you live with ADHD and deal with it everyday, but I tutor two kids with ADHD, so I'm pretty sure I know more than you." And my mom just agreed with him??? Like??? It really made me feel like shit...
im so sorry:( did you try to tell them?
@@forestchild487 no... 😔 I can't... I'm not gonna do a good job at explaining myself
@@EmRose.r maybe try and write them a letter? its important for them to know how they made you feel.. but if not, nevermind your feelings are valid. it was just rude, so i'd just let them know and forget that, cause it takes energy from you.. they'll never understand, cause they are not you :( its so sad, that people are like this
@@forestchild487 I'm fine, I just don't feel like I'd be taken seriously... "because boys have a different type of ADHD, so your experiences are completely different"... 😞 I'll be okay ❤ thank you though
I don't think boys and girls have a different type of ADHD. The difference is between inattentive ADHD and hyperactive or combined ADHD. I think females tend to have more often inattentive ADHD without too much hyperactivity, but they can also have the other types, and males can have inattentive ADHD too.
“This world is just so hard and I just want to learn all the things and that’s so awful and that’s why I’m so depressed” literally me
dude. same.
Me too! And there is not enough time in the world for all the things I want to study.
I read this comment right after she said this! 😂 I one hundred percent relate! I literally told my parents that I'm going to end up with like 12 bachelor's degree and a million years worth of debt.
i wish i could stop time and learn every language
Yes!! For me is like... Every single thing is fascinating and I don't have time to learn everything about one single thing!!!! So I get super stressed about time not being infinite and end up learning nothing
This video is literally my two neurodivergencies fighting for dominance in my brain
Paige and Olivia also look kinda similar
same honestly
Right? I would relate to one of them so much on one topic and then the other on the next topic. My brain hurts
Me too! I was listening to this and going how am I relating to both of them so much? I was diagnosed ADHD 6 months ago and then, assuming he was too, because he's just so much like me I took him to a pediatrician and she said she thinks he's autistic which actually makes so much sense for him but has also made me wonder if maybe I'm also autistic...
Im pretty sure im comorbid, but my ADHD is more prevelant. There definately fighting. Like: i have a special interest, but when the dopamin wheres off, i don't do it anymore but still think about it a lot, love to infodump about it, its just under the dopaminthreshhold to actually do it. I get overwelmed and bored in class, need much alonetime, but crave the exillerating experiance of just talking to people, sometimes i think my ADHD is the only thing that makes me do new things and meet people. I need downtime because of to much sensory input, but need something to shut up my brain. Caffeine makes me focus on things i dont wanna do, but it effects me so extremely and hightens the sensitivity. Either im overwelmed and don't talk much, or i talk nonstop.
I have ADHD and I need CONSTANT change. I can't stand things staying stagnant. I always need new mental and physical stimulation.
same but im autistic so change is stressful so am i gonna be bored or am i gonna be anxious today only god knows
Omg that’s crazy I have adhd and I’m the opposite I hate change I need routine the simplest change makes me freak out and makes me adhd worse I wish I could like change
I have adhd and I like a certain way or ‘routine’ of doing things broken down, but it’ll always be done in different orders or times. And I love changing my furniture around cuz I get SO BORED
I have ADHD and I avoid new mental and physical stimulation lmao
Same
"Are you optimizing your time by planning for three hours when it takes you ten minutes?" I feel attacked. lol
Yes omgggggg I repeated 100000 times that part bc I felt it
That moment when you think more about doing it, than actually doing it.
@@theSkin_of_a_Killer_Bella moment? literal years of my life.... lol
@@stitchlightly5995 😔👊✋
@@theSkin_of_a_Killer_Bella and then thinking about doing it for so long overwhelms you so much that you don't even do it
The food texture thing is so real. I always forget that ADHD can cause sensory issues until I'm 75% done with a bowl of cereal or a piece of toast and have to spit it out
For the longest time I didn’t think food texture bothered me until I realized that it was a huge reason as to why I became a vegetarian
I've had severe sensory issues since I was about 4 years old and I never realized it was because of ADHD until my therapist told me so. I outgrew my sensory issues with noise but food is still my biggest issue
My family got so frustrated with me being a picky eater (it's really inconvenient to them) but when I was diagnosed it finally helped them understand that I physically cannot eat most foods without gagging and vomiting. I felt so relieved because I was told that "Stop making yourself sick" or "Just eat it! Stop telling yourself you can't it because it's all in the mind and if you really tried hard enough you would be able to eat it"
Omg yes. My issues is with onions, especially if they are on soft creamy food, if I chew onion on them I just wanna throw up
Is THAT the problem? I'll be eating away at something I enjoy and the my appetite just dies and the food no longer tastes good.
“I want to know everything and it’s so awful and that’s why I’m depressed!” Felt this in my bones, ignorance seems simpler
100%, I really felt that,in the video with her mom she talked about being smart enough to not what you don't know and that sometimes being less smart would feel better and wow, I've thought about that many times
Big mood. When I don't understand something, it frustrates me so much because I feel like I should just know it.
"I ate a baloney sandwich every day for 14 years" Finally. Even just one other person doing this. Granted, part of it was child neglect, but the taste was fine
Yes lol and for me it's absolutely a texture thing too, so I get embarrassed now because my options are either buying bologna (which nobody else in my life likes) or standing in the meat aisle squinting at lunch meat, trying to find a pack that's not sinewy 😭
My dude I've done this my entire life and never understood it. I ate cold, boiled hot dogs for lunch every day for TWO YEARS in elementary. Now I can't even smell one w/o getting sick XD. Cool tip tho: obsess over 2+ foods, switch off. So now that I'm older I'll eat spaghetti every night for three nights in a row, then raman noodles or hot pockets for a few days etc. I've been doing this for about two years, and so far its working!!
Me with peanut butter and jelly sandwich’s for 12 years in school
When my brother was growing up, he asked for and got a bread and jelly sandwich for school lunches ( no butter ) every day all twelve years of grade and high school.
I'm suspecting my best friend growing up was autistic because she did this but with peanut butter sandwiches for like 12 years. I'm ADHD and getting my autism assessment right now. I couldn't do the same food every day forever like her but I could definitely do it for a month or two 😂 And cycle back to it eventually...
i’m noticing that i’m a mix between the two right now and i’m SO CONFUSED
literally same like what
same but i have anxiety’s
thats why labels suck sometimes
same
Gurr me too
“Starting is the hardest part” - 1000 times yes!
why are you copying my profile picture
@@noobegirl why did you copy my profile picture, alter it, and then claim it to be your own?
@@jessiepearl8551 ive had this picture for around more than 4 years now
@@noobegirl yeah sure 🙄
Wow you guys copied my sisters profile picture 🙄
I'm autistic and the part of the video where you mentioned having a very strict concept of right and wrong is so true. my thinking is very "all or nothing", and I have such a hard time keeping quiet about things ( i also love to argue/debate )
Yes yes. I've had to just hardcore learn and change my moral compass it's hard to understand why other people do some things
I’m almost positive I have undiagnosed ADHD. My therapist as a teenager thought that may be a possibility but my parents denied it 🤦🏼♀️ everything makes total sense!
Me tooooo
I literally relate to everything Olivia is saying
And when I see tik toks that say adhd symptoms I always have them all
I haven’t watched the video yet, but I feel like I can relate to the symptoms of ADHD. However, there’s no way for me to get tested as my mum and my sister both have the exact same opinion of anyone who is neurodivergent: basically that they’re lazy and dumb and don’t really have any problem, that’s just some kind of excuse for not working. And me and my sister have also both been the ‘gifted’ kids, and she still is, but I’m basically not allowed to not be ‘perfect’ any more. So I guess I’m waiting till I’m older and allowed to make my own decisions around getting tested for it, possibly autism as I definitely fit into the ‘special interest’ part and something to do with anxiety because I don’t think it’s normal to cry when you forget a homework.
me too
If not the therapist who diagnose things
same i have so much similarity’s with them but i also have diagnosed anxiety so it could be that
Oh my gosh, I have wondered why my son puts all his toys out of his toy box and leaves them all out. A therapist told me, “maybe he just needs to see them visually.” But maybe he feels like he needs to see it or else he forgets it’s there. Because I have noticed when I clean up, he forgets he has those toys. But when he pours them all out, he plays with them all in his own way. Very interesting and good video. I have ADHD, and I am a mom of two kids one with ADHD and one with Autism.
Yeah some ADHDers have issues with object permanence which is what you described. I find having either clear tubs or pictures of the tub contents stuck on the outside of the tub helps a lot. Unless items are in clear line of sight I forget they exist :/
I have ADHD and I love that I have friends that have ADHD and they understand me I have 2 friends with ADHD and 1 friend with ADD 1 of my ADHD friends also has Autism
My boyfriend is extremely annoying with his object impermanence. He'll buy something, put it away, and then forget it exists for MONTHS until I remind him about it several times or he stumbles upon it. He lost his glasses for nearly a year in the exact spot I told him I left them.
I try to understand, but sometimes I just want to smack him.
I have ADHD and all of my close friends are either autistic, have adhd, or both lol. even with the differences between adhd and autism it seems we tend to get along so well?? I can see myself and my friends in paige and olivia's relationship, its great.
Honestly me too 😂. My theory is that we all just were the ones who were able to understand each other and our struggles so that’s why we all became super close.
why dose all you young people have it. It was so rare years ago that it seems unlikely to met another and there you are with a group of friends.
@@bunnyboo6295
I've got 5 friends who have got ADHD!
ADHD has been there for...at least as long as there have been humans! people with ADHD were good gatherers and hunters and they were more likely to survive better.
ADHD diagnosis is rare. many people still think that ADHD only affects to little boys. and among girls, ADHD can look different (for example, hyperactivity trait can be seen as talkative, etc).
but nowadays people understand ADHD much better and we're spreading the awareness of it. and I suppose that "same kind of people attracts each other", right?
@@bunnyboo6295 it's because in 20-50 years ago, if a child was diagnosed with any developmental condition, doctors would pressure your parents to sacrifice you to a group home, or teachers would see that diagnosis (and this happened to one of my best friends who had a disability) on your record and flat out refuse to teach you even if your record also showed how you were just as capable of learning as the "normal" kids. Your teacher could also refuse to teach you for being labeled as a "problem child" for not being able to follow social norms as easily. It's not that autism and ADHD were "more rare," it was that they were hidden away from the rest of society, undiagnosed, and/or forced to mask their symptoms more, and now there's more tolerance for kids who are different from the norm, although it is STILL controversial to let autistic kids and kids with ADHD or any other learning disability learn in the same classroom and get the same quality education as their neurotypical peers.
@@bunnyboo6295 that's because psychology wasn't as developed as it is now. It still existed back then, but rather than treat them as disorders or something that was understood parents of children with developmental issues came up with supernatural excuses to explain and reject children that were somehow different from other kids. That's how myths about Faes and Changelings originated. Then there's also every account of 'demon possession' in people that were probably experiencing hallucinations or perception-altering disorders.
A big ADHD misconception would be that everyone with ADHD is hyperactive. A lot of us are not, we've still got challenges around executive function (I know, ditto for autistics) and focus/motivation. Totally related to what Olivia said about picturing and remembering numbers.
OMG same, hate any form of metal arithmetic, it's just so frickin' hard to manipulate that data in my mind!!
my boyfriend suspects to have adhd and just can't eat certain textures. if anything is too soft or doughy, he won't eat it and i always felt like it's disrespectful if he doesn't eat my food/barely tries. i called him picky so many times and i feel really bad now. i had no idea it was a thing. i'll be more supportive from now on. thanks so much for this video, it's so helpful
There is a condition called sensory processing disorder SPD, it can be an indicator of neurodivergent conditions or it can be its own thing. I have it and my issues are mostly with textures and sounds
@@irismeeow sometimes especially with electronic sounds. If I go anywhere I usually have to use headphones or ear buds and listen to music to block out as much unwanted sound as I can.
@@chadfalardeau5396 i've read more about spd now and i understand it better now, thanks so much :) i have issues with sounds as well (misophonia but i'm also sensitive to sounds in general) but never really looked into it more. if you don't mind me asking, have you found something that helps or are you just trying to avoid the things you have issues with?
@@chadfalardeau5396 ahh sorry, i didn't see you already replied to the comment i decided to delete. I thought it was better for me to look into it before asking more questions i could have just googled
@@irismeeow textures are not that big of a deal for me because it food related avoid the foods that bother me. As for sounds I tend to listen to music using earbuds or headphones, I realize that might not work for you, so I suggest ear plugs or those headphones that just muffle sound.
I'm both autistic and ADHD. Definitely autism-dominant though so I typically only consider myself autistic and it's the one that's firmly a part of my identity
wombo combo
Same
ADHD is encapsulated within the specturm
@@frankied.roosevelt6232 if it were, ppl with adhd would have trouble with cognitive flexibility, so like social cues, understanding symbols, understanding reasons behind things. ADHD and ASD both have struggles with dopamine deficiency but in different ways. ADHD is more struggles with executive control. It's like having doors in the brain. You can either be flexible and let in dopamine a lot, but less control. Or you can have more control and less flexibility.
So I don't think it's accurate to say that it's the same thing, or that ADHD is diet autism. It's dealing with similar issues but the brain handling it in different ways.
@@yukiandkanamekuran what is "diet autism"
*me being diagnosed with inattentive ADHD*
Me after watching this video: WHY AM I 100% SIMILAR TO PAIGE AND NOT OLIVIA?!?
*UPDATE!!!*
turns out I have ADHD and autism 😂😂😂
I’m the exact same
I was thinking the same, but I think it has a lot to do with the differences on types, I love doing repetitive work, as long it's something that you do with your hands and I'm allowed to watch videos or something. I hate paperwork. But make do random bs and I'll do it gladly as long as I feel like I'm actually doing something lol
Omg thank god I thought it was just me
Paige has ADHD too.
I have combination adhd (just can’t do anything)
Sometimes I still doubt my ASD bc of the ADHD overlap..
Please get Liv on more often, if you two want to, this is a great format!
Very great format! I second this. And my adhd & ASD overlap and it’s ... confusing 🥲😆
You could definitely have both
I've been diagnosed with autism too (very recently cause I started doubting it), but I kinda really identify with ADHD stuff too, so I might have both but I really don't know I'm just super confused lol
Omg thanks for this, I had no idea some of my ‘weird neuroses’ might be linked to my ADHD. Especially the food obsessions, I’ve always been that way and my family get frustrated by it. I’ve had meltdowns over someone else eating something I was saving up
Omg her describing laundry and dishes is me to a T - adhd 😅
I’ll be talking with a friend and then I’ll say “brb” and then accidentally keep them hanging while I do 15 other tasks
I always apologize and explain myself but I can’t stand it and I wonder why they even like me 😅
Or hiding stuff under the bed lol
I will think I need to do this then 10 seconds later I get distracted and don’t do it
Paige talking about standing up for others just to feel right and have the person know their wrong is so relatable to me. I’ve had to correct other people because the person who has the problem “isn’t confrontational” or isn’t confident enough in their feelings. And then people tell me it’s not my buisness
not knowing whether i have both, neither or just one is making me feel horrible i need labels so much and constantly being invalidated by my parents doesnt help either. my therapist thinks autism, but i relate so much to both, and the only reason she said i couldnt have adhd was because i seem to focus during sessions and it makes me feel so invalid because i told her all the stuff i related to
Same I feel lost
(Recently diagnosed with ADHD and strongly suspect I'm autistic)
I've found I *can* focus on things, but it just takes a lot of effort. Like at a couple points during this video, I had to go back a bit because I'd started spacing out about a previous part of it.
I strongly relate to described experiences (like in this video), but when it comes to diagnostic criteria, partly just the wording of it makes it hard to relate to (like "Often has trouble holding attention on tasks or play activities." - I usually don't, but I also tend to choose tasks/activities that I like. If it's something I don't like doing, then that's much more likely).
In case it helps you out, search "ADHD autism venn diagram" - the grey/tan first result was one of the sources that led me into researching adhd/autism more, eventually leading to the ADHD diagnoses. I think it's also good to consider how much effort it takes to accomplish tasks - I *can* get boring things done, but it takes way longer / more exhausting than for others. And I also suspect my autistic "masking" further complicates it (in part due to still figuring out what is vs isn't masking for me).
Oh, and one thing my diagnosing psychologist mentioned: a diagnoses is just the opinion of one person. Some may think you meet the criteria for a condition, others might not.
@@GrahamRomero yes!! this is exactly how i feel. i havent gone to school in ages because of other mental health stuff, so i have way more free time. and in that time i will only do stuff i enjoy, which means i can obviously focus on it a lot easier, and tend to get completely involved in it. however if its something im only mildly interested in, or not interested in at all then i cant focus on it, and can only stay on task for very short periods of time. the few times i have done some schoolwork at home i could only work for 30 minutes at a time at most, and it took me a huge amount of convincing and persuasion from my family. i also got side tracked constantly.
and yes, i really relate to the whole not being able to relate to wordings on the criteria, which is why i tend to watch a lot more personal experiences rather than a list.
also thank you very much for telling me about the venn diagram, ive been finding it very confusing because of all the overlap. even the adhd exclusive things ive talked about to my therapist and she diminished them immediately.
i also told her my concerns that we werent looking into adhd enough, and she told me we would look at it as a second option if the autism result came out as negative. which to me doesnt make any sense since theyre often comorbid.
honestly im not sure what to do, i really dont think i can convince my therapist to be slightly more open minded so ill probably just leave it.
thank you for your reply though, great to hear your experience, i hope you can get your autism diagnosis too if thats what you want. apologies for the lengthy response
@@GrahamRomero yes, this is why im keen to talk to a psychiatrist as well, but since im in free therapy its a lot harder to get those resources unfortunately and the waiting list is very long
My oldest has intense ADHD
My youngest has Autism.
I hope they are as close as you two.
Thank you for this video. It helps me so much as a mama.
Are they Vaccinated?
@@gigia741 that is irrelevant. Vaccines don’t cause autism
@@gigia741 stfu
@@gigia741 thats honestly stupid if u think our developmental disibilitys are part od being vaccinated please change your veiws
Gina Furnari wow your disgusting
I have ADHD and I am bad at both starting and finishing tasks.
Edit: I also have executive dysfunction and OCD. But I don't have autism. I am also, like Olivia, good in social situations in that I can tell how someone is feeling and am really keen on body language and tone. I also have texture problems in that I can't touch things like certain fabrics or...PAPER! * pukes * I also tear clothing tags, but there aren't many textures that I wouldn't wear, other than itchy material. lol
paper feels so gross- go off lol
OMG YES PAPER IS *HORRIBLE* (especially nails on paper on a bare arm on paper when you're writing)
I've got ADHD and executive dysfunction too. Same for being good in social situations. My texture things... velvet, for food textures, cooked peas or hummus, and for sounds - anything touching cardboard or styrofoam. Truly hellish sounds = removing styrofoam packing material out of cardboard boxes.
I got ADHD and hate itchy shirts, but would a non ADHD person be okay with, or maybe not even notice the itchy fabrics?!
@@geminijinxies7258 idk I see my aunts sometimes wear shirts I gave them bc they were too itchy on me. They'll be just fine, and I'd be looking at them sideways, like how tf? lol
I was watching the entire time like "holy shit, almost every bit of this is like watching a conversation between me and my best friend" lol This video was fun and I enjoyed it a lot!
Is it weird that my dream job would just be working at a grocery store? I used to work at Natural Grocers and LOVED IT but they didn't treat their employees very well. So like if I could just work at a well-paying, well-staffed, vegan grocery store that would be a dream come true for me lol.
for the longest time, my dream job was re-stocking the shelves in a grocery store. unfortunately, where I live you can't really do just that, you need to also work the register at times and I cannot handle that at all. it's also not a well-paying job, I wouldn't be able to live off of it :
@Allissa R. Go for it! The only way you know is if you try. You can also try volunteering to see if it’s right for you. Good Luck🤗
@Allissa R. Try it out. I’m in a situation like that too but I’m being forced to do a job I don’t want
It's not vegan, but Wegman's is a great grocery store that treats their employees well!
Growing up with ADHD was always difficult, I'm 25 now and I still have issue with concentration, controlling and expressing my emotions, and learning new skills, I'm glad to see this stuff talked about more and not seen as something to medicate or look down on. Sometimes people are just born different and interpret life differently we don't always need to figure it out but we just need to respect it. Thanks for making informative and cool content
i loved this!!! as a psychology major, it’s really interesting to see what your experiences are actually are vs. what’s reported on paper, people are so dynamic and you guys are such beautiful representations for your communities ❤️
I have ADHD, and I spent ALL DAY yesterday trying to optimize my schedule so I can eventually get shit done. I did not find a way to optimize my schedule, but I did find about 10 apps that I decided will not work for me. I'm still trying to figure out how to motivate myself to do the things.
Adhd haver here, THE CHIPS THING, my dad went on a work trip recently and brought these really tasty donuts and I was saving mine and sOMEONE ATE IT, I literally started crying
The learning thing, I once wrote a paper in college for a girl about black holes and how they work... I had to know everything. Took two years to get what I needed after the paper was turned in and got 100% 😂
When I was a kid I was diagnosed with ADD (probably inattentive ADHD in todays terms,) and it was kind of rare for girls to be diagnosed with ADD or ADHD in the 90s, and it was VERY rare for girls to be diagnosed with Autism. Sometimes I wonder if I'm autistic, I feel like I have a lot of autistic traits. But there seems to be so much overlap with ADHD so I really don't know. It's difficult and expensive to go through diagnosis as an adult so I don't know if I'll ever know, but it would be nice to know lol. I'm also diagnosed with Borderline PD and social anxiety, although the symptoms seem to come and go in a way that makes me question the diagnosis, but my problems are very much related to relationships and the "proper" way act in social situations, and people doing things that (to me) are obviously wrong rude and annoying, while I also do things that to me are right and polite but to other people they're rude and wrong! I don't know, 🤷🏻♀️ maybe one day I'll figure it all out, or not. Either way I enjoyed the video!!
I was just diagnosed with ADHD at 21 years old. Some of my experiences are different than Olivia’s, but so many of them are the same. This was so validating listening to this conversation. I don’t really know anyone with ADHD that is my age. I want to know if there is a community of people with ADHD because I think it would really benefit me to be around others like me!
Im a german 15 y/o and i was diagnosed with ADD about two years ago, i recently looked into autism and got shocked about how freaking relatable all of the struggles are. I am currently creating a list of all of my autistic traits to convince my therapist about looking further into it because she doesn't believe i could possibly have it. im "too social" she says, even tho im not, only with my other neurodivergent friends..
well what i wanted to say is that you guys are helping me so much right now!
this video is so important!
Throughout my life, I've been told by many, many people, that I probably have ADHD. My sister and I have done research on it, and right now as I watch this video, I feel like I am an exact copy of Olivia. I am not in a situation/environment in which I can actually get diagnosed by a professional, but I am also afraid of self-diagnosis because there is always a chance that I could be wrong. Despite this, I feel like watching this video and seeing how similar I am to Olivia makes me feel some sort of closure I've never received, becoming aware that despite not knowing what it is I have at least I can relate to some with what I feel. i loved the video :)
Hey, if it makes you feel any better i've written comments almost exactly like yours and i just got diagnosed with adhd two weeks ago. For four years i didn't want to self diagnose because what if i was wrong and i just wanted to feel special? No. I literally have textbook adhd. Trust yourself, it takes a huge weight off of your shoulders
I'm late, but thought I would share. Don't feel bad about self-diagnosing. I have self-diagnosed every single thing I have later been officially diagnosed with.
The thing is, self-diagnosing gives you the language and understanding needed to communicate your suspected diagnosis with a doctor.
When I was a kid, no one diagnosed girls or women with adhd. It was seen as a diagnosis only for little boys, no matter the presentation. If I hadn't brought it up, no one would have thought to look for it in me.
When I first brought up the possibility that I might had adhd to my doctor at 18, he openly dismissed me. I was young and unsure, so I didn't have the words to explain my suspicions. He didn't take me seriously. His dismissal was so traumatic that I didn't consider the possibility again for years. I even had to switch doctors because the thought of seeing him again gave me panic attacks.
Seven years later, I tried again with a different doctor. This time, I was prepared. I had done my research. The questions on the evaluation didn't suit my presentation, but I was able to clearly explain my own presentation. I finally got my diagnosis. I most definitely have ADHD, just as I suspected.
I have similar stories for my social anxiety, general anxiety, and depression.
The stigma against self-diagnosis would only be helpful if people could rely on their doctors, teachers, parents, etc. not to miss a diagnosis. In the times we live in now, this is not realistic. The majority of neurodivergent women and poc have to self diagnose first to get an official diagnosis. If there is any shame in that, it should be on the world we live in, not on us for having to make due with what we've got.
I have ADHD and I feel her story about the cup and the laundry SO much. If I remember I have to do something while I’m doing something else I feel like I HAVE to do it or I’ll forget, ugh! Also you guys are so cute💕
Liv: oh! I'll go repot your plant right now
Paige: no we have things to do
Liv: *smiles and redirects, is thankful for the intervention*
that's a good friendship
I have ADHD, and my family think it's no big deal, it's not real. That I'm just a messy lazy person... And the teachers used to talk to them that they should see what is "wrong" with me. That's why while growing up I never got medical care and just being yelled at and being grounded. Now things still the same, but I'm not a kid anymore.
Sorry my rusty English
I can’t handle someone telling me to do multiple tasks at once, I will forget something
wait...so they just didn't took you to a doctor?
@@GreyWithAnE42 It is entirely possible that your dad has adhd too and is just used to trying WAY harder than other people in order to compensate for executive dysfunction. Sometimes it is impossible to change someone's mind, in that case you just have to go out there on your own, do your own research and find tools to cope with your adhd until you can get yourself a diagnosis. But if it is possible to change his mind, you might want to share information about adhd with him so that he becomes more aware of the differences between a neurotypical brain and an adhd brain beyond just "not being able to do things". That's a really big part of it of course, but it's just one of many things.. Also I don't know in what contexts you have been discussing this issue with your dad, but it might be necessary to go up to him during a quiet moment and actually speak from the heart instead of from self-defense (I say this because I was always very agressive when confronted with my behavior😅). Anyway, I wish you good luck on your journey and hopefully you will one day thrive, with or without adhd💖
THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!! I just got diagnosed in college, so there’s so much about ADHD I don’t know (especially in a social way, like little random things rather than what’s in the DSM5). There was so much Olivia was saying where I’m like “THATS MY ADHD?!” that no one has been able to tell me before. Thank you, thank you, thank you
RIGHT
I honestly thought the pen was going to go in your friends eye. Phewww 😂
I always thought that I am more ADHD than my ASD since i was diagnosed with ADHD with autism feature. But seeing Paige i am more relate to her story than the other girl. Watching this two girl is like seeing myself having a conversation inside of my brain. Is that even make sense? Hahahaha.
I think Olivia is also describing hyperactive type, there is also an inattentive type
I get the communication issues, I’m the same. You will find someone who gets you, and understands that some of your behaviour and rituals are just part of you and won’t judge it. I found someone, and I honestly never thought I would because I have so many issues, but he still loves me for me.
"I will start 50 different tasks at the same time and then casually finish them as I'm starting more tasks" is a sentence I felt in my soul.
Thank you so much for what you do. You’ve taught me so much and helps me through so much. I was recently diagnosed with autism in my twenties and I’m a girl. I felt so lost and now that I found you it all feel so much easier and I understand myself so much more. Please never stop with what you’re doing. You are so awesome!
Liv is so natural in front of the camera and Paige is only focused on the conversation lol I love it.
"Ogars have layers" OMG that made me cry! lol Sorry but I love Shrek.
This part! 🤣 I love her she’s so funny
I think I might have ADHD because I will start a task and get distracted and go to another task because I get bored so easily and whenever I’m in class I will constantly get up to get something or just sit and shake my leg in my seat like I have bad nerves I don’t want to self diagnose though
Self diagnosis isn't as bad as people make it out to be
As someone discovering I could be slightly both of these, watching you two go back and forth on so many topics that resonate with me is amazing!
When I talk abt things that I experience, my mom gets mad and asks “why do you have to put a label on shit just live your life” and I understand but at the same time it’s very upsetting. But I’ve been dealing with her dismissive words my entire life when it comes to discussing my behaviors so it doesn’t make me cry the way it used to. I would cry and keep arguing with her when she did that bcuz I felt like she was dismissing me. I would be so offended. I still feel the same but bcuz I’m used to her reacting in that way, it doesn’t make me cry I just kind of push it away and deflect.
i have been searching and reading about autism because i have had a lot of people comment and ask if i was autistic but i have never clinically been diagnosed, but i can identify and relate to quite a few of the autistic traits and i feel on a lot of levels i can relate to the both of yous
If you have the resources to get a formal diagnosis, you should look into it. Our daughter wasn’t diagnosed until 15. She says it was the best thing we’ve ever done for her because she now understands her brain. Good luck to you.
@@wanderingwillowblossom8106 i am in the uk so i get free healthcare it just takes years on a waiting list to get an assessment, but i think ill speak to my gp and take it from there and thank you
"This is a big Autism vs ADHD thing-- Do you have any issues socially?" -cries in awkward ADHD-
Both have issues, the reasons are just different.
😂 same
This was such a helpful video, thank you for making it! I have the social anxiety/ADHD combo, so I've often wondered if I have ASD as well, but this helped clear up some things. Love your videos!!
It’s nice hearing my struggles talked about 🤪😂 I need more autistic people in my life that I can relate to. Loved watching this. My best friend has ADHD and that’s part of why we’re best friends when we’re together we have a lot of energy and get very excited around each other 😂
I have autism and ADHD, my doctors weren’t sure what it was for a while but I was properly diagnosed at 13. But I’ve always had autism and ADHD. Getting proper help and support, the earlier the better!! I’ve been taking medicine and going to therapy for more then 12 years now, I’m 17 almost 18 and i have come a long way! That’s my story
the fervent "nO-" at the change bit, girl I FELT THAT-
So I have ADHD but I wasn’t diagnosed until after HS. I remember in my HS English class I was giving a presentation and apparently I was tugging my hair the whole time (even though I didn’t even realize it) and I got points off and was sad :(
liv's face was filled with disappointment when her brother ate her chips
that was actually me! i thought it was funny how liv was talking about her sister eating her chips when i had the same experience with my brother
I felt that so hard my brother ate one of my taken packets and now has his own but I cried
When you hated on velvet like that girl yes thank you the fabric is evil! And velour and corduroy *dead* and oh my god microfibre can just stay in whatever hell it came from- just thinking about them makes me feel horrible, way worse than nails on a chalkboard, and you’re the first person I’ve seen feel the same way so thank you!
Microfibre makes me ill. Why would someone make that on purpose? lol.
@@solarsatori I don't get it either, but i've met confusing people who can't feel each individual fibre every time they touch it and they're just totally fine, they claim that the more and smaller fibres speed up drying time, but no one will ever convince me that the fabric isn't just some kind of evil
Ngl, corduroy is one of my “comfort fabrics” (along with faux fur, satin, suede, and new denim)
@@user-lc7zc3jo3x ngl that baffles me lol but Ou I love comfort fabrics, I have this absolutely perfect pillow, I wish everything was made of it, but I lost the tags so long ago so I can’t buy more since I don’t know what it is!!
Corduroy is the absolute worst! I remember that my mother would force me to wear this one pair of corduroy pants when I was a kid and I hated it so much! The sound of it rubbing against itself when I walked. I eventually destroyed them and my mom always wondered where they went.
-I love you
-Aw. Thank you
Literally me with my friends. Don't know how to express affection, it feels akward
I have ADHD and my sister has autism and I can relate to Olivia in the fact that the littlest things can flip your day for egsanple
The other day me and my family cane home from going somewhere and I wanted to take a shower first then my sister took the shower and I was literally sobbing and it ruined my whole day... lol
I absolutely love this video! I have ADHD and hearing other neurodivergents have this conversation makes me so happy. :)
Paige's stim of *ACTIVELY MOVING* is too relatable. I mimic a lot, like A LOT, I try not to get caught because it's embarrassing so I wiggle or shake my hands haha
It's not that I'm egocentric, it's that I take pride in always having the right answer. So if there's ever a time when I don't, that's hard for me.
But like you said, it's also an opportunity for me to learn the right answer.
Haha I felt the ADHD impulse/interest with the circuit deeeep 😂 I was mad into pins, then essential oils, then bullet journaling, then circuit. ADHD is expensive 😂
This is so interesting! I have adhd and I have a manager with autism. I've had trouble working with him at times because of the differences in the way we communicate (I've always been pretty abstract and non linear in the way I describe things, and he's quite blunt and straightforward) I also have a tendency to make a lot of little mistakes due to my inattention which I can now see would be hard for him to understand. Thank you so much for making this video and helping me learn more about the ways we view each other, I honestly think it's helped a lot
I love your videos so much. It’s always a wake up call for me. I struggle everyday and I am not diagnosed so when I watch your videos I write down all the things I can relate to. So thank you for your videos!
Two incredible young women. They understand each other’s differences and similarities. They work well together. I have worked with ADHD and Autistic students during my career as a School Counselor. I have a high functioning Autistic son. Finding appropriate help for him is difficult and frustrating. It is a positive thing that schools today are more aware of the needs of students and try to assist them in better ways. When you are diagnosed as an adult services are hard to find because the rules and regulations are stacked against you. What you are doing to create more awareness is wonderful. Keep up the good work, both of you.
I’m in the same boat about weed. Smoking actually engages me to focus on what I want to do ! Motivates me to do boring tasks I find too easy haha
“I start something and I will find all the materials even if i dont have the materials” i was doing my nails while listening to this and i didnt have enough nails that fit my fingers so i cut and shaped the bottoms of the ones that were too big to fit my nails😭
How about just setting all the artificial nails out on a table and sorting them by size that way then you can find the right size for all of your fingers including your thumb
Anyone else relate?
So basically as someone with adhd I get told to act my age a lot. Whenever I feel emotion it’s an extreme emotion because I’m pretty sure part of adhd is being more emotional and stuff. But also SOUNDS the sound that literally makes me cry is a vacuum cleaner and baby crying. And for some reason the smell of gasoline to me is amazing, like I will gladly sit in your garage and smell it. But a smell that makes me want to DIE is new car smell. Rrr
I‘ve been told I act older than my age but also that I‘m childish... So I‘m always confused
And this is why I believe that I have both, I feel like I’m both of you.
I’m diagnosed with Adhd and I’m in the line for autism.
I expected to watch this and have more in common with Olivia because I was diagnosed ADHD when I was 8 but so much of what Paige was describing described me so well
"Which is harder: starting a task or finishing a task?"
Oof. Thank you for making that point! Getting over the initial executive dysfunction is always the hardest part. For the dishwashing/laundry example, I have literally sat down on the kitchen floor, paralyzed with anxiety and nearly in tears, trying to figure out how to organize and prioritize my tasks.
TFW you instantly relate to all this when you have both ADHD (ADD to be exact but it is only recognized as ADHD now) and Autism. Also, I relate even more to when Paige zoned out for a bit there (I'm guessing that was what she was doing) because I have a tendency to zone out so often, it's very fun when I'm streaming and suddenly zone out, oops.
I feel like ADD has always really been ADHD and before you get upset, hear me out, just because someone doesn't look hyperactive on the outside doesn't mean they're not on the inside, you could be sitting still whilst having your mind be at 2000 miles per hour .
I have ADHD and I’ve had ADHD since I was 12-13. i don’t have autism however, but i really appreciate this video and think it’s Interesting how there are a lot of similarities with autism and adhd
@@RobynFrost oh true you’re right sorry😭😭 that’s when i was diagnosed my bad, however my twin brother was diagnosed 2 years before me. his ADHD is worse than mine and he struggles a lot with it, however ever since I started high school I’ve been struggling more with my ADHD.
22:30 lol my hyper-fixations are Harry Potter, Carry On, Merlin, Raven Cycle, & magical aesthetics (like frogs or fairys etc)
faeries arent aesthetic.. weirdo
@@femmewoong thanks for your information but i dont really care! :)
@@nyxoberholz5496 it's literally offensive to a culture but ok 😭
@@femmewoong oh im sorry i didnt know (sincere)
ill correct it sorry
I have a house with multiple rooms and it’s STILL my bed with all my things surrounding me. Nothing beats your bed.
Me: ooh this seems like a cool video.
Also me: gets distracted by the comments because I have ADHD and can't pay attention
This is me! The video is like 3/4s of the way through and I've been reading comments and making new olaylists of suggested videos. Will have to rewatch now. EUGH the joys.
I feel called out but agree.
Crap I feel called out
I always knew I was different too. I was diagnosed with ADHD and OCD in the 4th grade, which they figured out since my dad has ADHD and even OCD too, but my parents knew there was still something else a little off socially but contributed it to ADHD. I was able to connect with my dad on a base, unspoken level about the struggles my mom could never truly understand and I couldn’t explain, but there were some stuff neither of them could help with even though they really tried. When I got into college and took an abnormal psych class and we got to autism everything clicked for me. I read so much about Temple Grandin, especially her book about the 10 rules of social interaction, it was the literal guide I was looking for my entire life, and her hugging machine idea of compressing the nervous system during overstimulation episodes changed my life. I was finally able to calm down and have someone help me so it didn’t take hours, as an adult it has been amazing and so crucial to my life. My family never understood the autism since they have only dealt with the ADHD from my dad and mildly from brother, and my sister understood least of all until she went to college. The day she took her abnormal psych class and they covered autism she called me on the phone to say that I finally make sense to her.
Overall, I am so much like you Paige! I was both gifted and had a disability but no one could understand it. I have learned a lot about ADHD and have been an advocate for many years, especially during my teaching credential program where I got my teaching certification and always added some other things too like knowing when to give options to either the whole class or only those who needed them, like many with ADHD, but like you I actually need someone to tell me vs trying to make all the decisions. I also have the same problem about changing seats!! I have my spot at my parents kitchen table and to this day no one uses it when I am there (I am 24 and moved out 6 years ago and am currently living with my fiancé in a different city). My fiancé has ADHD and OCD too so he understands and we accommodate for each other. My room, and now my house to an extent, was ALWAYS messy and no one could EVER touch, move, or “clean” my stuff or I would have a breakdown, and even after years of therapy I still breakdown with a panic attack. Switching furniture was never and still is never ok. Your face when she said that was the most relatable thing I have ever seen. I literally made the same face as you and looked around my room to see that my stuff was still there. I also don’t remember things exist if I don’t see them. As a kid I took the doors off my closet. I am also extremely touch and sound sensitive. Your face talking about the different clothes and textures was perfect and for me sounds are the worst of all. Sounds/music are so terrible and hard because at a pitch or frequency that my body deems not ok throws me into a complete sensory-overload panic and the music/sound needs to go off immediately, or turned down when people are talking, or else the day is over. I have never met someone so much like me and it brought me nearly to tears. Thank you so much!!!
tell me why i was just looking up articles about the differences two hours ago lol perfect timing
same !! it's perfect lol
I have no idea why youtube started recommending your videos, but this was really interesting and helpful! I've been diagnosed (??) with ASD a few years back, but neither I nor any of my family members OR my psychologist who had worked for me for years before could recognize the diagnoses in me. Eventually we got a 2nd opinion and they said I have symptoms of ASD but not enough for a diagnosis, but I myself have been feeling like I might have ADHD, or a mix of both myself, and seeing how I can relate to almost EVERY SINGLE point about ADHD is really interesting to me! At the same time I also related to a few things you said about ASD, but not as much as ADHD, but this makes me want to look further into it. I've also watched your video on ASD in women, and related to 3/10 of the signs!
I know there's something going on with me, but sadly in my country atleast, psychiatrists refuse to look at any other possible disorders once you have a potential/full diagnosis. Maybe I'll never get a proper answer and remain with the ASD label, but this really made me feel validated in a lot of the feelings I've been having throughout the years :') Thank you for the video! I might start with a new psychologist in the upcoming months, so hopefully I'll find out more about myself and taken seriously for once, especially after 8 years of therapy, most of which was forced upon me and my last therapist forcing meds on me.
I’m almost positive I have autism (and adhd) and I don’t really feel hunger, I just crave food if that makes sense. I only feel hunger when I’m like really really hungry(sometimes feel like I’m about to throw up). Also a lot of times I can’t tell if I’m thirsty or hungry. I used to eat the same foods all of the time but now, I don’t as much. (Also I don’t really pay attention to those things lol 😂) Can anyone relate? Anyways byeeeeee love y’all❤❤❤😊have a great day!😊❤❤❤
How your friend explained how she cleans is EXACTLY how it is for me. It takes me a whole day to clean the dishes because I have cleaned the whole house in the process. I feel ya girl. I also have two toddlers so it actually makes it very difficult. It’s the same with getting ready in the morning I will catch myself like cleaning or organizing something when I know damn well I have 5 minutes but I’m in the shower organizing my shampoos, like I can’t stop it.
I also organizing and rearrange my house like weekly. My daughter is ASD and she gets pissed but there’s something inside me that MUST rearrange. I leave her room to her and her things but she’s also 3 so she doesn’t care THAT much yet she just cried when I more shelves then after that she doesn’t care
@@kelly-ellie3543 Purely guessing based on myself, but does moving the furniture make a lot of noise? Maybe she has an auditory sensitivity that's triggered by rearranging? Definitely could just be the change, but thought I'd share just in case
I have both ADHD and Autism so it is very interesting to see how they can differ. Sometimes it’s difficult to know with myself 😅👏
I'm battling a lower mental time in my life right now and just binging these videos helps me not feel alone until my next therapy session
Thank you
this came at a very good time in my life. i just started with an ADHD specialist today. it's nice to see someone else talk about the world the way i experience it
Thats great! I watch ur vids and im always hoping for the best for you ❤
I feel like i might have adhd but consultations are so expensive in my country and hard to find so i doubt I'll be able to get myself checked
I have ADHD and my little sister has autism,so it was really cool to see a video like this!! Thank you❤❤
How am I an exact mix of both of you. I have no diagnosis but have always felt like there was something really different about me and I struggle a lot in social situations, with anger, understanding feelings but also can’t sit still, have sensory issues etc but was pretty much half and half with what you and your friend said. Like love change of furniture, travelling etc 😩
I absolutely love this! Sooooo much is highly relatable for me. I wasn't diagnosed with ADHD until I was an adult. I am a teacher for students with disabilities now and it is one of the greatest gifts to get to be authentic with and for them. As I age I begin to understand some of the interrelated aspects of my brain, thinking, and functionality, and I see so many neurodivergent elements that are not ADHD, so videos like this are helpful in decoding myself! And, for what it's worth, I could totally listen to you brain vomit about anatomy! That is the COOLEST hyperfocus area. Thanks for sharing, y'all!
One technique thing I've learnt for OCD rituals recently was from a film on Netflix called OTT. I saw that Paige mentioned touching things with 2 hands and some other things too but you don't actually do this every time and what I have seen help some people is if they rewatch themself and see that they were okay and functioning when they didn't do a certain ritual. It makes more sense in the film on Netflix, which is also very comedic! Obviously the feelings and experience are always valid, just becuase you don't do them consistently it doesn't mean it isn't real, I just thought this technique was intersting as I've seen it have positive responses regularly. Also many ADHD people experience OCD or Autism overlaps so for anyone else, please remember noones the exact same. This video isn't bible, just one comparison! 💗
I can't find that film "OTT" on Netflix in the States, could you share more about it, please? I'm interested in watching it!
im so happy this video exists cause i cant tell if its adhd or autism & idk what to talk about with my psychiatrist and i only see her once a month for an hour so its really helpful & helps me understand myself & my brain a bit better!
I'm diagnosed with ADD, but I relate a lot with your answers to autism as well.. 🤯
hi! ADD actually isn’t a term anymore (not trying to be a jerk at all! I have adhd and love sharing new info I learn :)) ADHD is broke down into 3 different types:
ADHD, combined type. This, the most common type of ADHD, is characterized by impulsive and hyperactive behaviors as well as inattention and distractibility.
ADHD, impulsive/hyperactive type. This, the least common type of ADHD, is characterized by impulsive and hyperactive behaviors without inattention and distractibility.
ADHD, inattentive and distractible type. This type of ADHD is characterized predominately by inattention and distractibility without hyperactivity (www.google.com/amp/s/www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/adhdadd%3famp=true)
This is exactly me and my sister. She has adhd and were pretty sure I'm autistic. I will be seeing a professional as soon as I can.
My granddaughter is having big sensory issues with clothing and particularly socks,tights and shoes,at the moment.Were having meltdowns most mornings before school.She sounds so similar to you Paige,although not all the same,as you say,all autistic people have their own issues.Were currently waiting for a diagnosis,she’s 8 years old.Myself and my daughter know she’s autistic as we have had a lot to do with children and adults with autism,so we see it.Her school also agree and we are currently going through the process of diagnosis which takes forever,particularly here in England.We have a lot of things in place already at school.She has a wobble cushion,ear defenders etc but thankfully she has good friendships,even though she also thinks she’s right all the time😊Great watching your channel,great information for everybody😊
I really wish you, your granddaughter and the rest of your family the best ! Good luck for the future :)
@@eloweez8798 thankyou so much😊
My friend has adhd (non diagnosed) and she’s the same as Olivier, starts one fast, gets distracted with other jobs and is constantly going between jobs and struggles to finish anything. Where as I’m like you Paige, I spend hours planning and organising what needs to be done, then never able to get anything done. I over plan and give myself way too many jobs to complete, that I end up being disappointed in myself for not finishing my tasks. Even though I spent the first few hours planning. Gah, it’s a constant cycle.
I just noticed Olivia’s eyes are two different colors that’s GORGEOUS
I'm 26 and was recently diagnosed with ADHD. As I learn more about it and it's similarities to autism I feel like so many things about myself are making sense for the first time. I'm not sure how old you are but I think you mentioned you're in grade 7 so I assume around 13? I just wanted to say the way you talk to and understand each other is so beautiful. I can only speak to my own experience but I think if I had had this type of peer support when I was a teenager I would have been able to accept - and show compassion towards - myself a lot earlier (I mean... still working on it but I suppose that's just life). Anyways, hope you have very good and nice lives you're doing amazing!!!! :)
Depending on the source, between 30-80% of autistic people also have ADHD. I learned about them the opposite of you - strongly related to descriptions of autism as started learning more, and only in the last 6 months did I start looking into ADHD (which I was just diagnosed with, but didn't bother with trying to get diagnosed with autism as I see no benefit). Also really wish I'd found out in my teens or sooner, as it helps explain a lot of my challenges growing up. But better late than never I guess :/
@@GrahamRomero oh believe me, I have very much been going down the autism research rabbit hole!! Sooo much validating and helpful information.
This whole video was concerningly relatable.
This video is amazing, your friendship sounds so healthy😩😍 I dont know you two personally but somehow i am proud of you