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Spray or wrap everything with an acid resistance Layer! Plastic Windows are getting molten easily by acid foam. There are acids that can corrode easily through metal.
I'm intentionality making my thunderbolt style deadbolts on an independent central lock system powered by the house battery. Yes it's one extra key fob to carry and one extra button to push... BUT like warfare this is a knowledge game... the fact that a vehicle is mass produced gives thieves alot of time to develop knowledge on how to overcome the factory systems. In Ladi & Margaret's case if a theif knows how to overcome the vehicle's central lock system they have by default also unlocked the thunderbolts.... not in my van, unlock the factory central locks and you're still locked out by an invisible unknown deadbolt system. Good luck everyone in making your own fortress, although you won't need luck, fortune favours the prepared.
I think that a safe is to much of a target and too bulky to effectively hide I have two hidden secret draws for my laptops and documents and my safe is pretty much empty I have gps tracking but also have a hidden apple AirTag under the van for redundancy. love your van definite the coolest one out there technology wise can't wait too se it finished. also sticker 1
In South Africa (wonderful for crime), you can fit a non-return valve on the brake lines with a hidden switch. So if you don't know where that button is, the first time you push the brakes, they lock up and you can't continue driving. My friend's father has one, he's had his car stolen twice but just walks to the end of the road and picks it up again 😅
well, in the usa, it's called a "Mico Line Lock" it fits inline in the braking system. on the other hand, it they tow it away on f rollback/flatbed tow truck then it's moot.
Sometimes, thieves can puncture your tires (at a petrol station) and when you stop to change the puncture in a more remote location, they stop to offer help, but ultimately end up robbing you. This happened to a friend of mine in Spain and they tried the same on my dad, although he was so fast changing the tyre that when offered to help he said, nah it's done and quickly got back in his car. Legend!
Is there a solution to this problem? Are there tyres available that you can’t puncture or some kind of coating? Any way at all that you know of to eliminate this risk?
@@angelabay-jespersen6205 Hi Angela, I don't think there is any way to make the tyres resistant to this sort of attack, my advice would be to always park your vehicle in front of the windows of the cafeteria of rest stops where its quite visible (this is what we do), this will stop most people as its too exposed. Of course it could be at night and this can be a problem. Another thing you can do is check your tyres quickly if you are in a place that doesn't seem safe. Of course all this can seem a bit paranoid, but unfortunately these types of robberies do exist, though rare. Being careful is the best defence I guess. If you do get a puncture after a recent rest stop, then check the side wall of your tyre, if it has a gash in it then someone has put a Stanley knife in it, I would get in my vehicle, lock the doors and keep your mobile close. If anyone stops to offer help out of nowhere, don't get out, but pretend to be making a call. If they don't go away, call the police. Once again, its rare for this to happen, I've never had any issues personally and have driven all over France and Spain for years, but its worth just knowing about it.
@@angelabay-jespersen6205 Yes you can buy run flat tires or slime to put in the tire to seal leaks. However, slime only works sometimes on small leaks. There are many kits available to plug a punctured tire that I have used many times that full permanently plug a nail hole of any size. Bring a battery powered or 12 volt powered air compressor with you to pump back up after the fix.
A cut off switch so the van cannot be started and you can hide the switch anywhere you like it's a fantastic device as the car or van cannot be started
YES, my everyday car has a dead switch. it's Great, my ex tried to drive my car drunk (that's why you're my EX👍🏾😁), didn't know I had a dead switch and got pissed when I drove off and left him there😂.
@@Sparkeycarp many of the newer models have this as standard....my best friend has a 2020 Jeep Larado top of the line...she simply downloaded the app....and it has a kill switch she can use to cut off the car......
A lot of people disregard some of these protective measures as being overly "paranoid", but I can tell you that being robbed is such a violating experience that it's natural to do what you can to keep your little home safe. It's all you have. And if you have pets with you it's even more important
@@eveningstarinthebluedarksky789 Also, a woman on her own can't have too much security... no matter how "prepared" she may feel or confident, it's still a sad but true thing that women are seen as "weaker", more vulnerable. We can prove 'em wrong!...
I heard from a vehicle security company owner that one of the best anti-theft solutions is a delayed immobiliser. It lets the thief steal the car, but 30secs later it shuts of the engine. This unexpected act is very distracting and causes bigger headache for thieves than we think. Surprising a thief is the best deterrent. Then you can use redundant gps trackers to get back your van...
Combine this with locking thief inside, AND turning on siren and flashing exterior lights. In the US at least, police are not motivated to do much regarding tracking down these thieves. But if the thief is handed to them in a noise emitting, flashing light package, the chance increases they will be caught. In many states, the penalties are so small that they will not stay in jail long. But many thieves are stupid, and sometimes they have Contraband or drugs or weapons in their pockets. So the penalties can pile up.
@@nickg428 I do not believe this devise would be legal. You are not allowed to entrap a person in your home or vehicle. Hence my favorite a bear trap is illegal. Well maybe you could innocently plead how scared you are of bears.
Hi, great tips there. A couple more things I’ve added to my van are; a steel case with a very strong lock to contain the obd port. Not sure if this is an issue with all vans, but our sprinter can be stolen by programming a new key via the obd port. In addition we have an immobiliser that either needs my mobile phone to be present or a secret code to be entered via the dashboard buttons to start the engine. We also have a single switch in our sleeping area that turns on all the lights on the outside of the van, hopefully to scare off anybody loitering outside the van at night. Sarah & Ben X
@@jessitabonita you replied to a post concerning immobilizer on a sprinter van, did you ever find out the brand? I’m not hear from the original person who posted. Thank you, Steve
A great self defence weapon is (legal throughout the world), the CO2 fire extinguisher that is already in the van. You will be surprised how effective it is. Gives you time to either run or drive away, etc.
Not only for car defense .. extinguishers are nice legal tools generally not considered as weapons (well, weapon could be anything, like the leg from your portable table, right?)
Temperature monitoring system to make sure your vehicle isn’t too cold or hot for Millie. I travel extensively with dogs and this was quite literally a life saver when my AC failed on my truck. I like the SensorPush system with wifi gateway. And sticker #1 hands down!
If your adding anti-shatter film, make sure you leave at least one window in the cab either thinner or without. I know it’s a “weak spot” however from an emergency services point of view this allows us to use our glass break systems to extract you should you ever be stuck inside. 😊
I'd second that. Incase of an emergency where the vehicle lands in a water body and the doors get jammed, the only option you'd have is to break the glass and save yourself. However, if the glass becomes indestructible, it would get equally difficult for you to get out too. You may have to plan at least two exits on either ends in case of such situations. One of them could be your roof hatch.
That is where the panoramic glass comes into play!!! A thief will less likely climb to the top of the van to break in from there. Also the fans could be bashed through. You didn't notice she did t think or mention panoramic windows!!!
@@IAm-fp7sr I’m not sure I understand, what do you mean, panoramic glass? I mean I understand the concept of panoramic glass but how does it apply in this situation?
@@angelabay-jespersen6205 where is a panoramic view? Hmmmm.... look up!!! To the Van ceiling Glass there is? A panoramic view. Panoramic glass was not mentioned to have anti shatter therefore an easier exit access?
Additional layers to consider: 1. Tire protection so you can make a quick getaway. Fix-a-flat, spare tire, etc 2. Remote kill switch for a nuclear option. 3. The Club, steering wheel lock. You only have to use it while parked for long periods. It’s a highly visible, brightly colored, indication that this heist ain’t gonna be easy. 4. Roadside assistance for recovery after the fact. Smashed windows, headlights, or slashed tires will require immediate attention. 5. Locking fuel port. I’m not sure which model van you have, but consider preventing anybody from sabotaging or stealing your fuel. 6. Rhino liner on the exterior, expensive and maybe excessive, but a frustrated thief will key your paint.
This isn't preventative, but you may want to mark your expensive items with an ultraviolet pen, so that if someone tries to sell them, whatever you wrote on it appears under a blacklight.
Stteering wheel lock is the most useless safety device one can buy. A pro thief will saw the wheel in just a few seconds and remove the lock through the cut. Useless.
@@jefft3814 it’s a deterrent, a highly viable deterrent. Unless you’re walking around with a saw in your pocket, you’ll see it keep walking. But hey, thanks for adding to the conversation.
@@MikeKilo1969 That’s my point: it is not a deterrent for pro thief. It gives a false impression of security. Talk to people who had one and had their car stolen anyway; they will not buy another one.
@@jefft3814 I’m not debating that it is theft proof, nothing will stop a determined “pro thief”. But just like the “surveillance” window stickers, it is a deterrent and an additional layer of security. We don’t disagree on your point, we just disagree if it’s worth the effort. I think it worth the effort as an additional highly viable layer. However, there are other similar items such as pedal locker, ignition locks, etc. Again, thanks.
We have one special layer of security: Having a super ugly and worn looking van. We have paint peeling off, we painted rusty spots with a different shade of color, side mirror is slightly broken... It looks like a workers van of a poor company with just shovels and buckets inside. But on the inside it is actually quite a different story. But still we have inner locks and secret compartments. We also kept the bulkhead.
Maybe additionally: external motion-sensor lighting - BRIGHT ones! They switch off after a chosen time period 1,2,5, 10 mins... + A dog bowl at the door step... a Really BIG one! 😆 + A Gun holster hanging from the rear-view mirror (empty of course), + "Pistol Club/Hunting Club" stickers on the van.
Where I come from in Europe you are not allowed by law to have "ready to shoot" weapons in your car (or in your home). They have to be disassembled and stored in a way where you do not have the all the parts togerther in the same place. There are strict laws for how you store your weapons in the car when going from point a to point b. You are under no circumstances allowed to have weapons just lying around in your car ready to go. Not even for selfdefence. If you own weapons you have to have special safes for them in your house so that different parts of the weapon is locked up in different places. Chanses are that if you put a gun holster hanging from the rear-view mirror (even if its empty) you would get stoped by the police and have to explain why you would do such a thing. Or people would call the police on you becous they would feel unsafe with a big van drivning around with weapon accessories hanging in the mirror. You are not even allowed to have pepperspray here (its illegal). Or knifes over a certain lenght when you go outside of your home. If you do you are breaking our weapons laws. A knife out and about (including your car) can give you one year in prison and pepperspray three years in prison.
@@nathalieohlson1572 how on earth do women protect themselves if you are not even allowed pepperspray? What ARE you allowed to have in Europe? I feel a lot of Van lifers will do the America’s then do Europe, either shipping their own van or building one in the UK or EU and then selling when they leave. So any advice you have on what IS allowed would be really great, thanks :)
Great video but some other things to think about: * You should consider a locked box over the OBD port + tracker. Many thieves these days are using the OBD port to code new keys/immobiliser so they can start the engine without the original keys. Adding this physical layer might be the difference between them stealing the whole van or giving up. * Also might be worth considering an upgraded/after-market alarm system as the original manufacturers alarm might not be secure enough or have security flaws; although this might be just an issue for older or more budget vans. * You have added plates to the actual door handles but the actual door lock mechanism itself might be vulnerable via drilling though the door skin itself. Could add thick plates inside the door to protect / slow down this attack. * One of the issues with GSM based GPS trackers/Alarm system is that when you have no signal you wouldn't get an alert to someone breaking in. By adding a UHF pager type system (see 433/866MHz LoRa ESP32 /w GPS dev boards for cheaper DIY options) you could get these alerts while off grid in the wilderness etc. Some car/van alarm systems do include features like this but are waaay overpriced; hence the DIY options.
A get-out-quick protocol just in case you need to get out of the van quickly. Vandals set a van on fire not far from where i live not that long ago. Luckily it was just a trade van and no-one was living in it, but being able to get out of the van at a moments notice is just as important as keeping others out
They will likely still shatter tempered glass from the inside and then you’d be able to push it out out the way. Tinted glass sticks together too this way
I loved my Bear Lock! It locks your gear lever by a mechanism, into reverse. You get 3 keys, if your cars gets stolen, you need to present the 3 keys to the insurance. It was impossible to insure my van without it, and I understand why. It is the best system out there.
That sounds good as even if brake cables cut then it would be hard to tow or load if the vehicle in reverse, I think? Unless towed or loaded in reverse. But if there was a steering lock that locked the wheel whilst it was turned full lock left and right then I think that would make things very hard.
Great list of ideas I have 9 of the 12 done or ready to install, but I just have internal deadbolts not ThunderBolt Locks, my only thought make sure the safe is fireproof so if the absolute worst case happens to the van you still have some cash and bank cards, ID, contact list, and insurgence info, I think a decoy safe with some cash and old out of date IDs is a good idea if you have to get a desperate person out of your van you can tell the where it is. Also if you are going to have Self Defense items you should do some training with them, rather then try and figure it out in a high stress situation.
Faraday pouches are a good idea. I put my key fob in my faraday pouch once I turn the truck off and use the door lock button to lock the door and activate the alarm system. If I don't need the key fob, I always keep it in the pouch. From what I've seen it's easy for a thief to grab your key fob signal.
Yes, I've heard this has a become a very accessable way to steal a car now. They sell the fob pouches on Amazon now for just a few dollars. Very smart and worth doing!
You should also install a hidden "kill switch" since your security system seems quite extensive, the worst thing would probably be for the whole thing to be stolen. A hidden kill switch might slow that type of theft down.
About 18 years ago I had a work truck of mine broken into in my apartment carport. Ever since then I have been relatively security aware. Using puck locks on my work van and security screens on the window and a bulkhead divider for the driver compartment. You guys have taken this to another level which I will explore. Thanks for all the research you have done. Now we have a Thor Sequence 20k that we bought in February 2020. I will be having the windows security coated and some type of more advanced door locks as well. Soon an alarm that alerts me.Then i will follow with the rest of your ideas as they fit. It is ironic we bought this van to bring our beloved kitty with us on excursions because she became diabetic and needed twice daily insulin injections that she would allow no one else to give her but me. Hence she became a great travel companion. Short lived unfortunately. Sadly she has passed from cancer that we treated over the later years that seemed to bring on the diabetes. We were graced with her for 14 years. Enjoy your Millie. We get your devotion and love.
I have to say, I so appreciate the time and effort to have good subtitles available on your videos. So few channels pay attention to the difference it can make to have more than auto-captions generated by the RUclips bot. Big cudos!
Hi Ladi, Make sure to add a secondary 12v battery so if the intruder cut's off or snaps the battery cable your defenses are still on Additionally you could install a Bear Lock anti-theft systems (the kill switch is already mentioned below so no use to say it again) Best regards
You have done some great research - thank you for sharing. Two considerations: remember, if you are ever in an accident and first responders are called, breaking the cab windows quickly may be really important to your rescue. Secondly, may I recommend wasp spray instead of pepper spray? It is very effective and very directionally focused, whereas pepper spray can also affect the user, especially in the confines of your van - and it may come in useful for its intended purpose, somewhere along the way!
@@MrJhchrist Not effective on humans in an immediate way. Maybe HCl acid in a squirt gun. Many other more toxic substances available. However, not sure I want them around in my van I live in.
Not only is the effectiveness of wasp spray in doubt as a self-defense tool, it might actually be illegal to use as a self-defense tool because of its intended use - wasps, not humans.
I added motion detecting solar lights. They charge in day and have a few settings. Can come on as security lights if anyone walks past. Or set to be on a night if camping on low. They have the added function of providing light for the security cameras mounted as well and the lighting wakes up the camera motion detector to give me notifications. Cheap and simple and really bright. Can be turned off when driving :). Starter Fuse out of fuse box when needed. Isolator switch to battery. Don't fit ladders to van had someone rip my solar panels off in a car park once in broad daylight whilst at work
I had a viper alarm on my lowrider, it was amazing so look it up and its features. Everything from GPS, tilt towing alarms, to the power to call and roll the windows up and down by phone or completely kill the car with a call. Also I work on cars and can tell you there is countless wires you can cut and the car don't work. On that car I cut the battery + wire half way to the fuel pump and added a switch I hid in the seatbelts suction hole. You could not see it but if you stick your finger in the hole you can feel it. Took 1 second to turn on and off and looked like I was just putting on my belt when I flipped it, but it would only run about 12 seconds before running out of gas if left off. Last I got a train horn for fun but later wired it to my alarm to make it more useful. I just thought I'd share because this video made me decide to add a lock system to my future van build using 80/20. Those bars hold 10k pounds a square inch so I think I will build my own power bar system that shoots those across the doors. Also that window film is awesome, we had to break into a car with it and 4 of us took turns hitting it with a metal bar for like 10 mins before getting in. The sound of the hit each time echoed like gun shots so I don't think anyone would try for more than a few hits because it's way louder than a car alarm. Hope this inspired some ideas for you guys and best wishes #VanLife people
Awesome video!! If I was an auto manufacturer I would either make a number of these security devices stock on all models or sell them bundled as a security package. Also does your vehicle have a catalytic converter? If so you might consider a cage for it - stealing a CC is easily done netting a thief hundreds of dollars for just a minute of their time. Then you're left with a nearly undriveable vehicle needing expensive repairs and down time. Thanks for all the great ideas.
The manufacturers don't care about your theft problems. It just means another sale for them if it happens. Provided by the insurance company or the customer payment.
I added a quick release steering wheel. I lock the steering wheel away in a purpose built safe. I also installed a drop down plate which drops when the central locking activates. The metal plate covers all three pedals and locks to the floor. Lastly I modified my gear stick so that too can be removed and locked away. I use a landrover defender 110. I will be adding some if not all of your suggestions very soon. Thanks for the content...
I don’t think any of this is overkill. Trent and Allie almost got broken into while in their van and Eamon and Bec got broken into. Among so many others. Security is a major part of van life and you guys are ahead of the pack!
we were walking around with our backpacks on for the ENTIRE USA trip. Seriously dragging laptops, all camera equipment, drone, etc just because how vulnerable we felt while visiting some places
How about 1) roof vent security, how easy are they to gain access through (depending on size) even using kids..... 2) Use a GPS sticker like an Apple sticker somewhere on the inside of the outer skin of the van where it gets signal as an extra backup. 3) Remember with rear barn doors the weak point is the two doors being prised apart at the same time. Great video😎👊
For security while you're inside your vehicle, it is tough to beat a firearm. If space is available, the sound of a pump action shotgun is well understood and universally feared.
@@ladiandmargaret So sad how a self reliant safe life has become. Yet we are not allowed generally to protect ourselves without adhering to strict laws. I am so glad you put all these ideas here for us to create our own better security. Thanks for the research. We love our kitty too.
@@Sparkeycarp Here in the USA the police are NOT required to protect us or even required to come out when 911 is dialed. See HERE: The Supreme Court ruled back in the 80's, that the police have, and I quote, "...no obligation, be it contractually, morally, ethically, or otherwise, to protect the public at large. The protection of the individual, is the sole responsibility of the individual him or herself..." SEE: DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services, 489 U.S. 189 (1989) SEE ALSO: Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. Ct. of App. 1981) . Just hide the bodies LMAO (just kidding)
All 13 layers seem to be good additions to add security. Thanks for the time spent researching all of this for the rest of us. I would caution you against any stickers regarding your cat. All it takes is a one person, on a hot day, in a parking lot, to call the police and cause you problems thinking that there is a pet inside.
Many years ago after my combat tour in Vietnam in 1971, I still had time to serve...in my VN unit we all had a middle level security clearance. They needed a volunteer stateside to attend safe container/security locks school and the job required a clearance I had. One point with security is to hide the fact you have a security systems, such as alarms with a separate power source. Internal mounted door locks, manual or electric. My trailer has internal mounted dead bolts, with and electric slave cylinders that opens them all at once, plus the factory door lock. I also have a 12 volt hidden power source on the camper that allows me to use my cigarette lighter plug with a long wire to put "Juice" into the system to unlock the doors in case the power is off. Something to think about. I had ONE attempt to break in it, but the motion detector alarm went off in the middle of the night...(in my driveway) and the crook ran away. Never had the trailer broken into with that set up...something to think about. I got the slave cylinders from a GM car at the junk yard as they were for car door locks.
I didn';t read the 900+ comments so forgive me if I repeat . For self defense perhaps the most valuable weapon is a fire extinguisher. Not only will it stop an intruder in their tracks it can also be used to "hit em up the side of their head" after discharge. It will pass through borders without problems should you travel internationally. Another layer of defense is a kill switch attached to your electronic fuel injector. This will make someone hot wiring your vehicle think it has stalled and can't be restarted. Excellent video!
Layer 14: Panic button system when your are inside the van. 1 in the driving area and 1 in the living area. Push a button and loud (outside) siren(s) and bright LED emergency type of flashlights goes off.
Another layer I have are motion detector outside lights. I have three MOTION-GUARD lights mounted on sides above driver and passenger doors and on rear door. They can be used as porch lights or switched once to detect motion. This also provides the light needed for my 3 exterior low-profile mini cameras to see at night. I have these mounted on the top back sides pointing forward and top rear corner to cover the rear door. There is also a mini camera mounted inside to the underside of the headliner shelf pointing out through the windshield to show what is happening in the front of the van.
I like the idea of motion detection lights but on a recent video I saw a guy was saying having them there was a magnet to bugs and as you open the door they would fly in. He said that if he was to do it again he’d mount them several feet from the doors to save him have to spend 5 mins trying to swat all the pesky insects.
I only have motion activated when I am in the van at night or away at night and they are only on briefly when activated. They also come with anti bug yellow lenses that can be swapped out when in buggy situations.
I love that you acknowledge this is over the top. I think this gives a lot of great options for people to pick and choose from. I hope you find your happy place again and don't let it fester because of your previous experience.
Replace your alarm sound with a large dog barking. I don't know where I've seen this but it's an idea that stuck with me. Ain't no thief that will want to deal with an angry doggo. Bonus points if you have a surround system and can make it sound like angry doggo is loose in the van.
An excellent video. Nothing is ever 100% thief proof, but as most vehicle break ins are opportunistic it is about making it too difficult for would be thieves to persist with. If your vehicle is more difficult than others, all of these precautions are well worth it. It's similar to the two guys in Africa walking through the bush, when a lion appears and starts running towards them. One guy sits down and quickly puts his runners on. His friend says, "do you seriously think we can outrun a lion." He replies, "I only have to outrun you." These sensible precautions are you outrunning your neighbouring vehicles.
Great ideas thanks ... as a single female traveller security is always on my mind. A comment re stickers on your van ... it is better to put stickers on that are NOT the brand you have installed, just in case info on that brand is available online. Keep them guessing!!!
easy hack when you go on a day trip: take out a fuse from the engine fuse box (like for the engine management module for example). Another idea would be to combine the engine fuse box with a kill switch hidden under the hood. there are also kill switches combined with an on/off key lock you could hide in the driver bay to switch things off and add another bothering layer
I almost installed the same material on my windows, but then I realized I wouldn’t be able to escape if I wound up in the water somehow. Shatter-proof works both ways.
That's what I was thinking. I'd probably put some of that film on most of the windows but leave one window with out it, and if I had a van I'd make sure there's roof access that I can use to escape from.
I bought a test door from a scrap merchant, fitted the stickers to the glass inside and out, then used ** a 'jab saw' ** that is normally used to pierce and cut plasterboard wall panels. It very quickly cut through the glass/plastic layers. This allows a rapid escape from inside. I keep 2 in the cab now, easily reachable from either side.
@craigmacdonald4987 ok guys...PUT YOUR WINDOW IN DOWN POSITION IMMEDIATELY BEFORE YOUR ENGINE GETS FLOODED! ESCAPE THRU YOUR WINDOW AND SWIM!! -Yep, I did ! Even swam with my Boxer dog, purse, keys and cell phone in my bra! The other car had a lady in it...she died in her car.
I am sure this has already been brought up, but layer #1 should be you and your awareness. It doesn't stop everything of course, but people's lack of situational awareness of their environment shocks me to no end! Great vid, thanks for taking the time.
You had me at 1:10 ! Thank you for all the tips! The fact that you sold all your belongings and started traveling with just a backpack is a huge achievement. You did something that many dream of doing, but few would/could do..
Some Wanker broke into our Motorhome years ago but we woke up and chased them off. This happened to us on day 1 of our holiday whilst travelling through France. So, we had 2 weeks of vacation with broken door locks to contend with and worry about. It wasn't the most relaxing of holidays! What this made me realise is that being proactive in persuading the scum bag not to attack the van before they cause any actual damage to the van might be a good thing. I came up with ideas of setting of paparazzi style flashing lights if they got to close to the van, somehow filming them as they approach the van (perhaps nowadays automatically live stream it somewhere) but the video being shown back to them through the window and then I thought about a siren which would get progressively louder as they approached the van and keep going if they did not move away. The tech to achieve all of this was not around at the time but I suspect it's different now. Love the 12 layers and looking forward to seeing how you implement each layer 👍
A Maglite 6D torch is a perfect as a baton. There are no issues in any country with it being viewed as a prohibited weapon.... after all it's a torch, but the aluminium body and weight of 6 D cell batteries make it a truly effective club.
14:35 I'm pretty sure all those things are illegal in Sweden, don't know about the rest of the EU. Taser - electric weapon Pepperspray - chemical weapon Baton - blunt weapon *You are not allowed to carry weapons of any kind unless you are a security guard/ police/ military* Breaking the "weapons law" is quite serious and will result in more than just a fine and a warning. Baseball bat could be allowed. If you are stopped by police and they find a bat along with a glove, a ball etc, you will be able to argue that you're just bringing sports equipment along on your trip. If it's just a bat it could be considered a weapon.
That's a bummer to be honest. I mean - i partially understand the foldable bat of some sort. But pepper spray and taser? They were literally developed as a defensive, non lethal weapons, those are the only useful (debatably) things which a person can carry in order to defend themself. I mean - what are the other options?
I recently had someone try to break into my van for the first time in almost 4 years (that I know about), I was laying in bed watching Netflix and heard him trying various door handles; he quickly ran away after I hit the lock button to flash the lights and made some noise inside. Definitely just an opportunist thief, but still nerve-rattling. Always thought about installing a "panic button" near the bed to turn on exterior lights and an alarm.
You could fit a hidden cut-out switch somewhere no-one would think to look, wired into the fuel pump [if it has one] or the engine ecu. For when you leave the van for extended periods of time or a risky location. make sure you put it out of the way, maybe in the living area, yes its inconvenient but it is much better than finding an empty space where the van once was. Also as a quick method if you are caught out, remove a relay for the engine/fuel pump, one that you are sure that it kills the engine, either take it with you or hide it in the back of the van somewhere, set a reminder on your phone just in case you forget its location. Love your videos.
You guys are awesome! I agree with most of your ideas except the safe. Here is what I suggest: Place your safe where it is slightly easier to find (not obvious, but knowing that the thief will find it) choose a good one, mount it as secure as possible, just as you plan to now. BUT do not put anything inside the safe except a note with some version of (be creative) : RUN FOR YOUR LIFE YOU ARE ABOUT TO DIE!!! (Hide your valuables, they will be so convinced that everything good is inside the safe they will focus on that. Which is the reasoning behind this idea!!) I'm also using many of your layers plus an interesting layer of digitally controlled LEDs both inside and outside our van activated by several types of sensors and deployed on an escalating scale....just a little here and there, example if its dark out (our system knows this and many other things) we will turn on a white interior light as a quick warning to leave, if it is daylight out numerous very high powered colored and white LEDs will convey a similar message. If the threat doesn't leave the light show will quickly escalate turning the interior a bright blood red and many LEDs on all sides including along the edges of our "low profile power tilt solar system will begin to go nuts and draw intense attention. At programmable levels I will add varying degrees of a train horn, starting with a very low feed to the air horns creating what I call the annoying sound of an injured animal, sort of a wail. We will also add audio messages starting out politely and escalating to my being able to see them live through our Dahua Low Light Color cameras and "speak" to them personally in my very deep voice. If after all of this the problem persists, ear piercing blasts from the train horns will begin to occur. I may even add under van specific layers including spraying grey water to douche unauthorized creeps trying to drill a hole in the diesel tank or trying to steal exhaust system parts etc. If we are lucky maybe the grey water will be stinky. Haha We do have the power to do these things supplied by 4 Tesla S modules (about 20KWH) charged by an 8000 watt 48 volt auxiliary alternator and maintained while parked with 1080 watts of solar. Just like you, I hope to quickly convey the message that anybody considering messing with our van would be wise to just move on. It should be a very unique approach. Love you two!
Probably yes, but I would not buy it. Because headlights are either .. 1. stolen, disassembled from the car. Some are easier to do. And so film will be stolen with them. 2. most modern cars do have headlights mounted via 3 (or little bit more) plastic brackets to the headlight bay. If someone hit the light with baseball bat, it will probably not break the headlight "glass" (even my old MY2003 Subaru had no real glass but acrylic/plastic), but it will most likely break those brackets. Ask someone after light head-to-head collision. Lights are intact except they broke off the brackets.
i would not apply the Anti-Shatter Window Film on the outside. first of all, it is not needed. the purpose of the film is to hold the pieces of glass together when broken/shattered and a single layer on the inside can easily do that. The film will NOT prevent the glass from shattering (car glass is very shatter-proof to begin with). Also, when applied on the inside only, you can always cut a circle with a sharp knife and then break the window yourself if you have to get out in an emergency and the doors won't unlock (with all your deadbolts) or are blocked/bent. With film also on the outside, you have no chance to get out through the windows. Oh, and 4mils are not 4millimeters. a "mil" is a thousands of an inch so 4mils are 0.004 inches or about 1/10 of a millimeter.
Surely linking those thunderbolts to the standard central locking system isn't going to offer any extra protection because by passing a vehicle's OEM one can be pretty easy,...slipping a tool between the door glass and the door to activate the lever for example. The standard key hole/lock can be breached by using a flat bladed screwdriver too, hence why fitting extra deadbolt style locks supplied with a Multi T style key are a common thing to see on many a van nowadays. I agree that it's a pain to engage them but there's less weakness/ways for a thief to attack them.
One of the things that can't overcome yet is the fear of locking everything really good while my dog is inside (maybe cause I need to go somewhere that doesn't allow dogs) and then something electrical or whatever breaks/stops working and I'm not able to rescue her for who knows how long... This scares me WAY more than getting the van itself stolen (well... Even the thought of someone breaking in and possibly harming/stealing her makes me die inside). But still, super fantastic tips ❤️❤️❤️
Sticker 1. Also a microchip for Millie, unless the gps tracking device does the same job. About security ideas, a lot of good stuff have been said already. But if I was traveling in a van, in a remote place, my (irrational middle of the night) fear would be that someone would slash my tires so I can't drive away and wait for me outside. I don't know if there is anything to do about that. Also, I would like to have bars or something that would let me open my windows at night without the possibility for someone to get in. Thanks for that awesome video !
For side windows that roll down, you can use clear tint film. Take in mind in case of an accident it’s also very hard to come out. When it is so difficult to get into the van. The thieves imagine that is something very valuable in there.
If your ever in NV, I have a 30acre ranch your welcome to hang out at. We have some very nice community areas BBQs, BBQ, pits, hiking and fishing near by, several tourist attractions etc.
Love the video. I put on the window film. It is easy to get the film scratched by the up and down motion of the window if the sweeps are dirty. I’ve called over twenty locksmiths and not found one who will install the thunderbolts on the Van. I’ve emailed with the company a number of times, they have no list of installers. I’m not able to put them on. Maybe I’ll try again.
Very cool, I'mma look into some of those recommendations. I don't currently live in my truck, but I live in a storage garage next to my truck. And despite extra security, my truck has been broken into twice in the last 3months :( I've lost really big. And in between the two break-ins I got even more security which included me being out there a lot with a bat and a camera (and other concealed things) which impeded them from being able to break in to my neighbors' as easily. Which then pissed them off. The second break in they electronically bypassed my locks and my security cameras and left me a warning... which included breaking all my windows, slashing all my tires, ripping out wires and hoses, graffiti, and what they would do to the garage and house too as well as more physical threats (we've gotten into a couple yelling and physical altercations so far). So things have been really shitty here... The harder I make it for them, the more pissed off they seem to get. This is granted/hopefully a rare thing (things here are just really bad and a powder keg where the sun goes down at 5pm and real winter is coming/here and I live in a high crime neighborhood already, in a big city where uprising stuff has interrupted local gang activities and it had become kind of a war between the neighborhood/activists and the gangs) and more focused on my truck being in the same place every night... but I would recommend a full spare tire or two in case they get pissed with the extra security and try puncturing tires... plus roadside assistance (which I assume travelers already have). And please, no commenters comment about how I just need to move because that is not possible.
This popped up in my feed and I watched it and I love that you are hilarious. You crack me up! That in itself is a major accomplishment, seriously. I have three dogs one of which is my service animal. So yeah I am a little cautious too. I'm picky about where I stay I prefer to stay at a truck stop. I do have a big diesel truck f250 SD 4x4. I can sleep in the driver's seat all curled up and comfy. Anyone comes within 10 yards of us two of them are going to go off and the third one she won't do anything unless you are actually trying to get in the truck. Hey this girl thinks it's her truck. Do you know what it's like to get in your own vehicle and have your K9 giving you the evil side eye. I also have a van but I don't want to drive it because in all honesty even if I'm just taking a little road trip for the weekend and not taking a bunch of stuff so it's more or less empty way and we're going with a tailwind pushing us along I still don't get as good of gas mileage as I do with my truck in town and loaded down. Yes my van is old but I love it I'm not going to get rid of it. If I was told I had to choose between the military truck I want to get and keeping my van I don't know I might have to sell something I don't know what but I'd find something to sell so I could keep both. I look forward to catching up on the videos. Have a great week
My wife and I are both military veterans. We have veteran stickers on our van. We hope that this will be either a sympathy maneuver or they don't know what kind of veterans they will encounter or what their weapons are, so they move onto another vehicle. We also have cameras and GPS tracking. We also do the blackout curtains, so they cannot see inside.
I was sitting in my Rv van and relaxing just then I heard someone try the back door. I pulled out my protection and just set there when the door opened I pointed my protection directly at them and if they made to come in I would have used it. They screamed and ran. Not before I got a picture of both I notified the police and filed a complaint.
Hadn’t thought of that before! Ladi and I both had our phones stolen when someone sprayed sleeping gas in our tent in Uganda. Another crazy travel story. Good idea
Wow, sleeping gas. I've never heard of that being used in America. Not saying it isn't used but the way you guys are talking about it, it almost seems common over there. How scarry. Glad you're ok after being victimized in Uganda.
My parents were on the same camping area in southern europe as a motorhome that had a similar thing happen to it.. The thieves removed the waste water pipe from the external container and filled the vehicle with gas through the pipe, presumably it would exit through the sink plug hole. Then they used a Stanley knife type blade to cut the plastic windows the Europe motorhomes have. Ed
#Ring doorbell equivalent tripling as a video camera, motion sensor, and speaker/micro phone in order to sense, see, and even talk to visitors (expected or otherwise)! #SimpliSafe for internal vehicle surveillance could be helpful to monitor valuables. Keep up the great content #LadiAndMargaret!!!
It looks like the Thunderbolt locks need to be installed before the buildout? And just out of curiosity... what would you estimate all 12 of these layers of security would cost?
Security is so important! We live full time in our American RV, and found this video so inspirational! Packed with great security systems! Thanks so much!
You forgot or actually neglected the most common scenario: K.O. Gas through a vent while you're sleeping inside. Gives the thief all the time in the world to break into your van with you inside completely knocked out. Most common scenario in France and Italy. Always install a 3in1 gas alarm in your van even if you don't run it on Butane/Propane and ideally link it to outside lights so the thief gets scared off the moment he drops the gas plus I have programmed my fans to go beast mode to extract as much gas as possible immediately.
Some vans can be opened with a wedge at the door jamb and then a long reaching tool to press the door unlock button. If thunder-locks are linked to the same security system as what come with the van, this could be a weak point, unless the thunderlock was installed higher up the door jamb to provide no opportunity to bend the jambs.
Two way alarm so you’re notified if a door is opened or motion was detected. Question about the powered central locking layer. If your battery goes flat, can you unlock your van? Are you concerned about someone stealing your catalytic converter? Bear spray.
I like to look at myself as someone who thinks out of the box. And because I've never been broken into I don't know if this works or not, but I am positive my theory is sound anyway lmao! And because I travel with some very high dollar tactical stuff and weapons Iike an AR15, night vision and thermal, it's very important for me to make sure they are secured! I'm talking $20,000 worth stuff. So what I do is this. I have 2 actual safes, one small and a larger version. Then I mount them in the van very secure so it would be one hell of a lot of work to break it loose... but possible and make it known that it's possible. Basically something that is not as easy as it looks. I also buy a higher quality safe so it would be a little more difficult to break them open as well. I mount them so they are hidden, but not really hidden, if you know what I mean. I try to make it look like I'm trying to hide them, but in reality you can spot them by moving a couple things which is exactly what someone would do if they're trying to steal from you. I label one "Gun Safe" and the other "Cash & Documents" So my thinking is if they believe it's mounted so well they won't be able to take it, then they will move on and leave it be. But if I give them the impression that it's doable with a little bit of extra work and with the labels now, letting them know the extra work is def worth the extra effort, they are going to waste one HELL of a lot of time trying to either break it loose or break it open! Just for kicks I throw in 50 pound dumbbell weights, so if they do get it loose it's going to be all they can carry for the moment lol. Time is always your friend and never your enemy when it comes to a thief and the longer it takes them the better chance they are going to get caught!!! Every minute that goes by is an extra minute of time you have to stop it. The kicker here is not a few feet away I have the real guns hidden behind a side wall panel :)
Ladi & Margaret, you have 12 layers, levels of security. Some are power hungry. Some are passive. It’s a hot day you parked up. Millie is safe in her under seat den. You lock up, head off to get some supplies. It’s 40degrees you get back the thunder bolt remote doesn’t work? Batteries dead! The van is dead locked and you can’t get passed the thunder bolts. How will you get in? Or same scenario you come back and there’s a power failure on the van. No central locking. How you getting in.
Add to #11 a can of wasp spray. It sprays 20 feet and irritates the eyes. Just remember to shake it up once in awhile to keep it ready to use. Also a whistle will scare someone away. Is Millie able to tolerate a harness? When you are on the road having her not jump out into traffic or at night would help and she also wouldn't have to be cooped up in a carrier. You might think she won't jump out at an inconvenient time but what if a big dog is barking at her? You could also add #13, self defense classes. You can learn alot of practical tips in one 2 hour class that don't even entail tackling someone to the ground. Suppose you are walking down the street and someone grabs your upper arm from behind and tries to hustle you away. Swing your body around and connect the heel of your hand on their chin with an upward thrust. There are alot more scenarios taught. My cousin is a corrections officer at a prison. He gave me a couple tips. If someone grabs you around your throat and backs you up against a wall, grab their forearms and go limp, they will hit their head on the wall. Good luck.😊
as others here have mentioned a reply to similar comments, this may be illegal, and worse is not as effective as pepper spray. Love the self defense tips though!
thinking about your locking system and if the start battery was to run flat. Have you thought about using Renogy 12V 50A DC-DC On-Board Battery Charger with MPPT? This allows solar to charge your starter Battery as well.
A good security system to have on any vehicle, is a gearshift lock similar to those found as standard on Saab cars, if a potential thief can't get any gears the vehile is going nowhere.. xxx
My wife and I both have Apple Airtags in each of our cars. Hidden so nobody would ever find them but it means you can use find my airtag to locate the car if it's ever stolen. Peace of mind for us.
Hi Margaret did you every get around to fitting the glass shatter film to your windows, this video is great and another one showing Ladi installing the film would be brilliant, many thanks for the content that you share, it’s fantastic 👍
Did you look into how to avoid break-ins using a keyless repeater? A device that copies the unlock signal of the van key remote. Then most of the security layers you prepared would be jumped over. If bad guys see you off/onloading two kickass electric bikes, they will try the best tricks I guess. Loud siren (s) might be a good idea but you didn't mention anything like a safe where you would store a laptop, drone and other valuables. The bikes? Chained down or insurance is enough?
Love how fun and charismatic you are in all your videos! And the way you present the info is always easy to follow and digest. Have you ever had a situation in which YOU had to break into your own van? How about exiting? What would you do to prevent it from being towed? Love the channel and all your projects!
Hey guys, I just started watching, GREAT build series! I’m really impressed with your attention to detail and DIY mindset. We’ll be welding our own water and waste tanks as well, ala @Lacroix Cruiser, and will now be incorporating many of your design ideas for those tanks and a number of other systems, including security! I’m curious about the GPS tracker for Millie. We’ll be traveling with a cat and a dog who both need trackers. The best for us that I’ve found so far is the Jiobit. I like that it’s connected via 4G mobile networks but also has WiFi capability which extends the battery life. It’s fairly small, but I’m still unsure if it’s small enough for the cat. Have you found a better solution? Maybe something for a future video. I know a lot of us travel with pets!
would be fun if there were hard to wash paints that spray the thieves hands to identify later but it also would mess up the van... I would do a special shelve where you can practically see the wallet and you just have to reach in for it but then the thieves hand gets snared in with hand cuff and thick chain so he cant escape...
Is there a way to be able to have your safe also be a charging station? I think the biggest risk there is needing to charge them so not locking them up.
We had a Mitsubishi van that we drove thru Italy and Poland years ago. Our best /only protection was our dog (who growled) and the muzzle we hung on the rearview mirror. So maybe a fake sleeping dog and muzzle so Millie isn't upset.
Many people mentioned the kill switch. Make sure it cuts off fuel, and not power. That way thiefs can still run off with the van, but will be left stranded after a few blocks when the fuel in the hose runs out. Otherwise you risk a violent situation where they try to hurt you so you enable the switch again. Also, if this switch can be accessed through your phone as well, that's an extra point. (I'm building something similar in my van). Last, I don't know what measures to suggest, but be careful with confrontational thefts. They are super unlikely, especially in Europe, but you can have all the systems you want, but it's better to lose a hard drive than to be hurt by a thief. I guess, backup anything important to the cloud always, so the worst loss can be covered with $ from the insurance provider...
That's not how vehicles work anymore. The fuel pump will be in the fuel tank so cutting off the fuel with a valve will stop all operation regardless. There will be no stranded after a few blocks because it just won't start. There won't be enough pressure in the injectors to run.
Great security systems. Will there also be safety systems? Like fire alarm, CO2 alarm, sleep gas alarm, fire extinguisher, water and fuel tank locks, emergency kit for pet and human?
Curious what you would do in an emergency where the van was flooding? Normally the move would be to break your side window to get out. Does the risk of break-in just outweigh that risk?
They didn’t mention the windshield being wrapped and that’s the window you would usually break if the van was flooding so I presume the did that invade of flooding
@@ashtonrobertsss Windshields are made of laminated glass for safety (they don't break or puncture easily). Side windows are made of tempered glass (and can shatter easily if hit with a sharp device). The video here is demonstrating how someone can add the lamination material to make the side windows also shatter resistant. Google windshields: "In many countries, including the U.S., auto windshields are required by law to be made of laminated glass. Laminated glass can bend slightly under impact and is less likely to shatter than normal safety glass. This quality reduces the risk of injury to the automobile's passengers."
@@janekarr6318 Windshields are made of laminated glass for safety (they don't break or puncture easily). Side windows are made of tempered glass (and can shatter easily if hit with a sharp device). The video here is demonstrating how someone can add the lamination material to make the side windows also shatter resistant. Google windshields: "In many countries, including the U.S., auto windshields are required by law to be made of laminated glass. Laminated glass can bend slightly under impact and is less likely to shatter than normal safety glass. This quality reduces the risk of injury to the automobile's passengers."
@@steadmanuhlich6734 Ok thankyou for the information! So I presume window alarms would be the best move since you can’t put it on the side windows (for safety) and the wind shield is already super strong?
As a self defense tool, pepper spray in an enclosed space may not be the best option since it will incapacitate you as well. Someone mentioned a fire extinguisher as an option which I like. Also, the aerosol wasp and hornet killer spray that shoots several feet might be a good alternative.
The stickers are great. Solar powered led on all doors . Motion sensors. That chirps. Sensors that turn on lights around the exterior. Solar powered. Panic button that triggers alarm and lights.
Have you considered installing a hidden immobilisor that would prevent your van from starting or being driven away. For example, the Autowatch Ghost-II CANbus Immobiliser. All of the 12 layers yourve mentioned wont stop the van (and Millie) from actually being stolen if they do get in and you are miles away from the van.
steel plate box for pedals and steel plate locking device. steel plate for diesel tank and steel armored fuel lines. otherwise if bad people want to let you stranded in the middle of nowhere they could easily cut your fuel lines or pinch the fuel tank.
Awesome work on securing locks, windows, and alarms/tracking. Just make sure you have contingency in case you end up in the river or your vehicle catches fire. It might be not possible to open the doors due to water pressure, that is until pressure equalizes, which means the inside of sinking vehicle would be full of water. Perhaps the side door still can be opened, since it opens side ways. Your setup looks excessive, but many items are so-called low-hanging fruits, which are always worth considering. I recommend you consider fire safety and do a video on fire extinguishers. I purchased 3x 2kg ABC extinguishers, each for a compartment, plus have an older BC one, and considering an automatic fire suppressor system for the engine bay and/or fridge. RV fires are common and devastating, easily one of the worst fires known to man, since there is so much combustible, quick-burning material inside, including fuels, gases, and combustible metals!
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Spray or wrap everything with an acid resistance Layer! Plastic Windows are getting molten easily by acid foam. There are acids that can corrode easily through metal.
Love your videos. I'm gathering all info I can for my van build. Thanks for this one especially!!
I'm intentionality making my thunderbolt style deadbolts on an independent central lock system powered by the house battery. Yes it's one extra key fob to carry and one extra button to push... BUT like warfare this is a knowledge game... the fact that a vehicle is mass produced gives thieves alot of time to develop knowledge on how to overcome the factory systems. In Ladi & Margaret's case if a theif knows how to overcome the vehicle's central lock system they have by default also unlocked the thunderbolts.... not in my van, unlock the factory central locks and you're still locked out by an invisible unknown deadbolt system. Good luck everyone in making your own fortress, although you won't need luck, fortune favours the prepared.
I think that a safe is to much of a target and too bulky to effectively hide I have two hidden secret draws for my laptops and documents and my safe is pretty much empty I have gps tracking but also have a hidden apple AirTag under the van for redundancy. love your van definite the coolest one out there technology wise can't wait too se it finished.
also sticker 1
Probably already mentioned but how about a good steering lock?. Also a kill switch for the engine? Great video btw 👍🙂
In South Africa (wonderful for crime), you can fit a non-return valve on the brake lines with a hidden switch. So if you don't know where that button is, the first time you push the brakes, they lock up and you can't continue driving. My friend's father has one, he's had his car stolen twice but just walks to the end of the road and picks it up again 😅
Ooh, I like that a lot. Thanks for sharing...
Thats funny
Imagine doing can life in South Africa. You'll wake up as muti
@@TheMagnificentGman I kind of do vanlife in SA. As long as you sleep in campsites it's mostly fine
well, in the usa, it's called a "Mico Line Lock" it fits inline in the braking system.
on the other hand, it they tow it away on f rollback/flatbed tow truck then it's moot.
Sometimes, thieves can puncture your tires (at a petrol station) and when you stop to change the puncture in a more remote location, they stop to offer help, but ultimately end up robbing you. This happened to a friend of mine in Spain and they tried the same on my dad, although he was so fast changing the tyre that when offered to help he said, nah it's done and quickly got back in his car. Legend!
Is there a solution to this problem? Are there tyres available that you can’t puncture or some kind of coating? Any way at all that you know of to eliminate this risk?
@@angelabay-jespersen6205 Hi Angela, I don't think there is any way to make the tyres resistant to this sort of attack, my advice would be to always park your vehicle in front of the windows of the cafeteria of rest stops where its quite visible (this is what we do), this will stop most people as its too exposed. Of course it could be at night and this can be a problem. Another thing you can do is check your tyres quickly if you are in a place that doesn't seem safe. Of course all this can seem a bit paranoid, but unfortunately these types of robberies do exist, though rare. Being careful is the best defence I guess. If you do get a puncture after a recent rest stop, then check the side wall of your tyre, if it has a gash in it then someone has put a Stanley knife in it, I would get in my vehicle, lock the doors and keep your mobile close. If anyone stops to offer help out of nowhere, don't get out, but pretend to be making a call. If they don't go away, call the police. Once again, its rare for this to happen, I've never had any issues personally and have driven all over France and Spain for years, but its worth just knowing about it.
Beware of the bump & rob scheme also.
@@angelabay-jespersen6205 Yes you can buy run flat tires or slime to put in the tire to seal leaks. However, slime only works sometimes on small leaks. There are many kits available to plug a punctured tire that I have used many times that full permanently plug a nail hole of any size. Bring a battery powered or 12 volt powered air compressor with you to pump back up after the fix.
@@zerokelvin273 Sidewall slashes are the worst and almost impossible to repair.
A cut off switch so the van cannot be started and you can hide the switch anywhere you like it's a fantastic device as the car or van cannot be started
YES, my everyday car has a dead switch. it's Great, my ex tried to drive my car drunk (that's why you're my EX👍🏾😁), didn't know I had a dead switch and got pissed when I drove off and left him there😂.
All modern vehicles should have an immobiliser as part of the standard security
A little problem with that is modern cars cannot have their power interrupted. Hence it must interrupt the starting circuit.
@@kaybouie1972 WINNING!!!!! lol
@@Sparkeycarp many of the newer models have this as standard....my best friend has a 2020 Jeep Larado top of the line...she simply downloaded the app....and it has a kill switch she can use to cut off the car......
A lot of people disregard some of these protective measures as being overly "paranoid", but I can tell you that being robbed is such a violating experience that it's natural to do what you can to keep your little home safe. It's all you have. And if you have pets with you it's even more important
Absolutely! Better be paranoid than unsafe.
@@eveningstarinthebluedarksky789 Also, a woman on her own can't have too much security... no matter how "prepared" she may feel or confident, it's still a sad but true thing that women are seen as "weaker", more vulnerable.
We can prove 'em wrong!...
It's easy to say you're paranoid when it's not *your* life and *your* property on the line. Such people are just lazy and complacent.
Ppl with false sense of security and never been through stuff in their lives think like this.
I heard from a vehicle security company owner that one of the best anti-theft solutions is a delayed immobiliser. It lets the thief steal the car, but 30secs later it shuts of the engine. This unexpected act is very distracting and causes bigger headache for thieves than we think. Surprising a thief is the best deterrent. Then you can use redundant gps trackers to get back your van...
Combine this with locking thief inside, AND turning on siren and flashing exterior lights. In the US at least, police are not motivated to do much regarding tracking down these thieves. But if the thief is handed to them in a noise emitting, flashing light package, the chance increases they will be caught. In many states, the penalties are so small that they will not stay in jail long. But many thieves are stupid, and sometimes they have Contraband or drugs or weapons in their pockets. So the penalties can pile up.
Something that released gas into your van would be quite funny
@@nickg428 I do not believe this devise would be legal. You are not allowed to entrap a person in your home or vehicle. Hence my favorite a bear trap is illegal. Well maybe you could innocently plead how scared you are of bears.
God why do thieves exist
@@boundariessetinstone5893they are called politicians and govt officials, financiers and bankers
Hi, great tips there. A couple more things I’ve added to my van are; a steel case with a very strong lock to contain the obd port. Not sure if this is an issue with all vans, but our sprinter can be stolen by programming a new key via the obd port. In addition we have an immobiliser that either needs my mobile phone to be present or a secret code to be entered via the dashboard buttons to start the engine. We also have a single switch in our sleeping area that turns on all the lights on the outside of the van, hopefully to scare off anybody loitering outside the van at night.
Sarah & Ben X
Would you be able to message me the links of products you used for this? I also have a sprinter.
Brilliant! What's the immobiliser you use, if you don't mind me asking?
@@jessitabonita you replied to a post concerning immobilizer on a sprinter van, did you ever find out the brand? I’m not hear from the original person who posted.
Thank you,
Steve
I think the obd part can be removed. Keep it hidden until required.
A great self defence weapon is (legal throughout the world), the CO2 fire extinguisher that is already in the van. You will be surprised how effective it is. Gives you time to either run or drive away, etc.
Or bash them over the head. ....What too obvious?
Not only for car defense .. extinguishers are nice legal tools generally not considered as weapons (well, weapon could be anything, like the leg from your portable table, right?)
Yeah, it'd be better than nothing I suppose, but I'd still rather have my 9mm.
Would that be considered an "anti-fire"arm?
Besides using it hit someone over the head, how can a fire extinguisher be used as a self defense tool?????????
Temperature monitoring system to make sure your vehicle isn’t too cold or hot for Millie. I travel extensively with dogs and this was quite literally a life saver when my AC failed on my truck. I like the SensorPush system with wifi gateway.
And sticker #1 hands down!
Yes temp monitors we will def have 👍
If your adding anti-shatter film, make sure you leave at least one window in the cab either thinner or without. I know it’s a “weak spot” however from an emergency services point of view this allows us to use our glass break systems to extract you should you ever be stuck inside. 😊
I'd second that. Incase of an emergency where the vehicle lands in a water body and the doors get jammed, the only option you'd have is to break the glass and save yourself. However, if the glass becomes indestructible, it would get equally difficult for you to get out too. You may have to plan at least two exits on either ends in case of such situations. One of them could be your roof hatch.
That is where the panoramic glass comes into play!!!
A thief will less likely climb to the top of the van to break in from there. Also the fans could be bashed through.
You didn't notice she did t think or mention panoramic windows!!!
@@IAm-fp7sr I’m not sure I understand, what do you mean, panoramic glass? I mean I understand the concept of panoramic glass but how does it apply in this situation?
@@angelabay-jespersen6205 where is a panoramic view? Hmmmm.... look up!!! To the Van ceiling Glass there is? A panoramic view. Panoramic glass was not mentioned to have anti shatter therefore an easier exit access?
@@IAm-fp7sr what is "panoramic glass"? How does that apply to a vehicle? Is that the front windshield?
Additional layers to consider:
1. Tire protection so you can make a quick getaway. Fix-a-flat, spare tire, etc
2. Remote kill switch for a nuclear option.
3. The Club, steering wheel lock. You only have to use it while parked for long periods. It’s a highly visible, brightly colored, indication that this heist ain’t gonna be easy.
4. Roadside assistance for recovery after the fact. Smashed windows, headlights, or slashed tires will require immediate attention.
5. Locking fuel port. I’m not sure which model van you have, but consider preventing anybody from sabotaging or stealing your fuel.
6. Rhino liner on the exterior, expensive and maybe excessive, but a frustrated thief will key your paint.
This isn't preventative, but you may want to mark your expensive items with an ultraviolet pen, so that if someone tries to sell them, whatever you wrote on it appears under a blacklight.
Stteering wheel lock is the most useless safety device one can buy. A pro thief will saw the wheel in just a few seconds and remove the lock through the cut. Useless.
@@jefft3814 it’s a deterrent, a highly viable deterrent. Unless you’re walking around with a saw in your pocket, you’ll see it keep walking. But hey, thanks for adding to the conversation.
@@MikeKilo1969 That’s my point: it is not a deterrent for pro thief. It gives a false impression of security. Talk to people who had one and had their car stolen anyway; they will not buy another one.
@@jefft3814 I’m not debating that it is theft proof, nothing will stop a determined “pro thief”. But just like the “surveillance” window stickers, it is a deterrent and an additional layer of security. We don’t disagree on your point, we just disagree if it’s worth the effort. I think it worth the effort as an additional highly viable layer. However, there are other similar items such as pedal locker, ignition locks, etc. Again, thanks.
We have one special layer of security: Having a super ugly and worn looking van.
We have paint peeling off, we painted rusty spots with a different shade of color, side mirror is slightly broken... It looks like a workers van of a poor company with just shovels and buckets inside. But on the inside it is actually quite a different story.
But still we have inner locks and secret compartments. We also kept the bulkhead.
Work vans are the most broken into; unoccupied and full of expensive tools
Cop magnet. So much fun and attention. Not.
I was gonna say... nobody's breaking into my truck. Nobody wants it! X3
Locked Metal cage baby ,and broken back doors- opens from inside only
Not so much a cop magnet in crazy california
Maybe additionally: external motion-sensor lighting - BRIGHT ones! They switch off after a chosen time period 1,2,5, 10 mins...
+ A dog bowl at the door step... a Really BIG one! 😆
+ A Gun holster hanging from the rear-view mirror (empty of course),
+ "Pistol Club/Hunting Club" stickers on the van.
This would be also my recommendation.
Where I come from in Europe you are not allowed by law to have "ready to shoot" weapons in your car (or in your home). They have to be disassembled and stored in a way where you do not have the all the parts togerther in the same place. There are strict laws for how you store your weapons in the car when going from point a to point b. You are under no circumstances allowed to have weapons just lying around in your car ready to go. Not even for selfdefence.
If you own weapons you have to have special safes for them in your house so that different parts of the weapon is locked up in different places.
Chanses are that if you put a gun holster hanging from the rear-view mirror (even if its empty) you would get stoped by the police and have to explain why you would do such a thing. Or people would call the police on you becous they would feel unsafe with a big van drivning around with weapon accessories hanging in the mirror.
You are not even allowed to have pepperspray here (its illegal). Or knifes over a certain lenght when you go outside of your home. If you do you are breaking our weapons laws.
A knife out and about (including your car) can give you one year in prison and pepperspray three years in prison.
@@nathalieohlson1572 Glad I live in the U.S.
@@nathalieohlson1572 how on earth do women protect themselves if you are not even allowed pepperspray? What ARE you allowed to have in Europe? I feel a lot of Van lifers will do the America’s then do Europe, either shipping their own van or building one in the UK or EU and then selling when they leave. So any advice you have on what IS allowed would be really great, thanks :)
Those stickers advertising guns inside would make the van even more attractive...
Great video but some other things to think about:
* You should consider a locked box over the OBD port + tracker. Many thieves these days are using the OBD port to code new keys/immobiliser so they can start the engine without the original keys. Adding this physical layer might be the difference between them stealing the whole van or giving up.
* Also might be worth considering an upgraded/after-market alarm system as the original manufacturers alarm might not be secure enough or have security flaws; although this might be just an issue for older or more budget vans.
* You have added plates to the actual door handles but the actual door lock mechanism itself might be vulnerable via drilling though the door skin itself. Could add thick plates inside the door to protect / slow down this attack.
* One of the issues with GSM based GPS trackers/Alarm system is that when you have no signal you wouldn't get an alert to someone breaking in. By adding a UHF pager type system (see 433/866MHz LoRa ESP32 /w GPS dev boards for cheaper DIY options) you could get these alerts while off grid in the wilderness etc. Some car/van alarm systems do include features like this but are waaay overpriced; hence the DIY options.
A get-out-quick protocol just in case you need to get out of the van quickly. Vandals set a van on fire not far from where i live not that long ago. Luckily it was just a trade van and no-one was living in it, but being able to get out of the van at a moments notice is just as important as keeping others out
Weird!
Exactly! What if your van is underwater and your can't get out because you've covered the windows in layers of anti- shatter window film...
They will likely still shatter tempered glass from the inside and then you’d be able to push it out out the way. Tinted glass sticks together too this way
I loved my Bear Lock! It locks your gear lever by a mechanism, into reverse. You get 3 keys, if your cars gets stolen, you need to present the 3 keys to the insurance. It was impossible to insure my van without it, and I understand why. It is the best system out there.
That sounds good as even if brake cables cut then it would be hard to tow or load if the vehicle in reverse, I think? Unless towed or loaded in reverse. But if there was a steering lock that locked the wheel whilst it was turned full lock left and right then I think that would make things very hard.
Great list of ideas I have 9 of the 12 done or ready to install, but I just have internal deadbolts not ThunderBolt Locks, my only thought make sure the safe is fireproof so if the absolute worst case happens to the van you still have some cash and bank cards, ID, contact list, and insurgence info, I think a decoy safe with some cash and old out of date IDs is a good idea if you have to get a desperate person out of your van you can tell the where it is.
Also if you are going to have Self Defense items you should do some training with them, rather then try and figure it out in a high stress situation.
Great advice! I would also say make sure the safe is bolted to the floor or something else that can be lifted out.
Faraday pouches are a good idea. I put my key fob in my faraday pouch once I turn the truck off and use the door lock button to lock the door and activate the alarm system. If I don't need the key fob, I always keep it in the pouch. From what I've seen it's easy for a thief to grab your key fob signal.
good point, I see thunderbolt locks don't seem to address this issue on their website 🤨
Yes, I've heard this has a become a very accessable way to steal a car now. They sell the fob pouches on Amazon now for just a few dollars. Very smart and worth doing!
You should also install a hidden "kill switch" since your security system seems quite extensive, the worst thing would probably be for the whole thing to be stolen. A hidden kill switch might slow that type of theft down.
thats an awesome idea! Just read about those and hadn't considered it before! Thank you!
I was going to suggest the same!
Believe you can link a kill switch/fuel cutoff to the OBD GPS tracker
It worked in the last Mad Max movie.
I had an ancient jeep one time that did not even have doors. Hidden kill switch was about my only option.
About 18 years ago I had a work truck of mine broken into in my apartment carport. Ever since then I have been relatively security aware. Using puck locks on my work van and security screens on the window and a bulkhead divider for the driver compartment.
You guys have taken this to another level which I will explore. Thanks for all the research you have done.
Now we have a Thor Sequence 20k that we bought in February 2020. I will be having the windows security coated and some type of more advanced door locks as well. Soon an alarm that alerts me.Then i will follow with the rest of your ideas as they fit.
It is ironic we bought this van to bring our beloved kitty with us on excursions because she became diabetic and needed twice daily insulin injections that she would allow no one else to give her but me. Hence she became a great travel companion. Short lived unfortunately. Sadly she has passed from cancer that we treated over the later years that seemed to bring on the diabetes. We were graced with her for 14 years. Enjoy your Millie. We get your devotion and love.
❤❤❤sorry for your loss ❤❤❤
I have to say, I so appreciate the time and effort to have good subtitles available on your videos. So few channels pay attention to the difference it can make to have more than auto-captions generated by the RUclips bot. Big cudos!
Hi Ladi,
Make sure to add a secondary 12v battery so if the intruder cut's off or snaps the battery cable your defenses are still on
Additionally you could install a Bear Lock anti-theft systems (the kill switch is already mentioned below so no use to say it again)
Best regards
But you just did :-)
You have done some great research - thank you for sharing. Two considerations: remember, if you are ever in an accident and first responders are called, breaking the cab windows quickly may be really important to your rescue. Secondly, may I recommend wasp spray instead of pepper spray? It is very effective and very directionally focused, whereas pepper spray can also affect the user, especially in the confines of your van - and it may come in useful for its intended purpose, somewhere along the way!
Wasp spray is a garbage urban myth, it isn't painful or disorienting in any way whatsoever. You might as well be suggesting they get some squirt guns.
@@MrJhchrist Not effective on humans in an immediate way. Maybe HCl acid in a squirt gun. Many other more toxic substances available. However, not sure I want them around in my van I live in.
Not only is the effectiveness of wasp spray in doubt as a self-defense tool, it might actually be illegal to use as a self-defense tool because of its intended use - wasps, not humans.
I added motion detecting solar lights. They charge in day and have a few settings. Can come on as security lights if anyone walks past. Or set to be on a night if camping on low. They have the added function of providing light for the security cameras mounted as well and the lighting wakes up the camera motion detector to give me notifications. Cheap and simple and really bright. Can be turned off when driving :). Starter Fuse out of fuse box when needed. Isolator switch to battery. Don't fit ladders to van had someone rip my solar panels off in a car park once in broad daylight whilst at work
I had a viper alarm on my lowrider, it was amazing so look it up and its features.
Everything from GPS, tilt towing alarms, to the power to call and roll the windows up and down by phone or completely kill the car with a call.
Also I work on cars and can tell you there is countless wires you can cut and the car don't work.
On that car I cut the battery + wire half way to the fuel pump and added a switch I hid in the seatbelts suction hole.
You could not see it but if you stick your finger in the hole you can feel it.
Took 1 second to turn on and off and looked like I was just putting on my belt when I flipped it, but it would only run about 12 seconds before running out of gas if left off.
Last I got a train horn for fun but later wired it to my alarm to make it more useful.
I just thought I'd share because this video made me decide to add a lock system to my future van build using 80/20.
Those bars hold 10k pounds a square inch so I think I will build my own power bar system that shoots those across the doors.
Also that window film is awesome, we had to break into a car with it and 4 of us took turns hitting it with a metal bar for like 10 mins before getting in.
The sound of the hit each time echoed like gun shots so I don't think anyone would try for more than a few hits because it's way louder than a car alarm.
Hope this inspired some ideas for you guys and best wishes #VanLife people
Awesome video!! If I was an auto manufacturer I would either make a number of these security devices stock on all models or sell them bundled as a security package. Also does your vehicle have a catalytic converter? If so you might consider a cage for it - stealing a CC is easily done netting a thief hundreds of dollars for just a minute of their time. Then you're left with a nearly undriveable vehicle needing expensive repairs and down time. Thanks for all the great ideas.
The manufacturers don't care about your theft problems. It just means another sale for them if it happens. Provided by the insurance company or the customer payment.
I added a quick release steering wheel. I lock the steering wheel away in a purpose built safe. I also installed a drop down plate which drops when the central locking activates. The metal plate covers all three pedals and locks to the floor. Lastly I modified my gear stick so that too can be removed and locked away. I use a landrover defender 110. I will be adding some if not all of your suggestions very soon. Thanks for the content...
thx for the giggle, X
Wow! Nice, Batman. What shall the rest of us Gothamites do?
You have three pedals. Come to the US and nobody will steal it, cause nobody here knows how to drive stick anymore! X3
Please tell me you've got a video about all of this. Theft is such a big concern and it sounds like you came up with some really unique ideas.
I don’t think any of this is overkill. Trent and Allie almost got broken into while in their van and Eamon and Bec got broken into. Among so many others. Security is a major part of van life and you guys are ahead of the pack!
we were walking around with our backpacks on for the ENTIRE USA trip. Seriously dragging laptops, all camera equipment, drone, etc just because how vulnerable we felt while visiting some places
How about 1) roof vent security, how easy are they to gain access through (depending on size) even using kids..... 2) Use a GPS sticker like an Apple sticker somewhere on the inside of the outer skin of the van where it gets signal as an extra backup. 3) Remember with rear barn doors the weak point is the two doors being prised apart at the same time. Great video😎👊
For security while you're inside your vehicle, it is tough to beat a firearm. If space is available, the sound of a pump action shotgun is well understood and universally feared.
@@ladiandmargaret So sad how a self reliant safe life has become. Yet we are not allowed generally to protect ourselves without adhering to strict laws. I am so glad you put all these ideas here for us to create our own better security. Thanks for the research. We love our kitty too.
@@Sparkeycarp Here in the USA the police are NOT required to protect us or even required to come out when 911 is dialed. See HERE:
The Supreme Court ruled back in the 80's, that the police have, and I quote, "...no obligation, be it contractually, morally, ethically, or otherwise, to protect the public at large.
The protection of the individual, is the sole responsibility of the individual him or herself..." SEE: DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services, 489 U.S. 189 (1989) SEE ALSO: Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. Ct. of App. 1981) . Just hide the bodies LMAO (just kidding)
All 13 layers seem to be good additions to add security. Thanks for the time spent researching all of this for the rest of us. I would caution you against any stickers regarding your cat. All it takes is a one person, on a hot day, in a parking lot, to call the police and cause you problems thinking that there is a pet inside.
Many years ago after my combat tour in Vietnam in 1971, I still had time to serve...in my VN unit we all had a middle level security clearance. They needed a volunteer stateside to attend safe container/security locks school and the job required a clearance I had. One point with security is to hide the fact you have a security systems, such as alarms with a separate power source. Internal mounted door locks, manual or electric. My trailer has internal mounted dead bolts, with and electric slave cylinders that opens them all at once, plus the factory door lock. I also have a 12 volt hidden power source on the camper that allows me to use my cigarette lighter plug with a long wire to put "Juice" into the system to unlock the doors in case the power is off. Something to think about. I had ONE attempt to break in it, but the motion detector alarm went off in the middle of the night...(in my driveway) and the crook ran away. Never had the trailer broken into with that set up...something to think about. I got the slave cylinders from a GM car at the junk yard as they were for car door locks.
I didn';t read the 900+ comments so forgive me if I repeat . For self defense perhaps the most valuable weapon is a fire extinguisher. Not only will it stop an intruder in their tracks it can also be used to "hit em up the side of their head" after discharge. It will pass through borders without problems should you travel internationally. Another layer of defense is a kill switch attached to your electronic fuel injector. This will make someone hot wiring your vehicle think it has stalled and can't be restarted. Excellent video!
Layer 14:
Panic button system when your are inside the van.
1 in the driving area and 1 in the living area.
Push a button and loud (outside) siren(s) and bright LED emergency type of flashlights goes off.
Another layer I have are motion detector outside lights. I have three MOTION-GUARD lights mounted on sides above driver and passenger doors and on rear door. They can be used as porch lights or switched once to detect motion. This also provides the light needed for my 3 exterior low-profile mini cameras to see at night. I have these mounted on the top back sides pointing forward and top rear corner to cover the rear door. There is also a mini camera mounted inside to the underside of the headliner shelf pointing out through the windshield to show what is happening in the front of the van.
I like the idea of motion detection lights but on a recent video I saw a guy was saying having them there was a magnet to bugs and as you open the door they would fly in. He said that if he was to do it again he’d mount them several feet from the doors to save him have to spend 5 mins trying to swat all the pesky insects.
I only have motion activated when I am in the van at night or away at night and they are only on briefly when activated. They also come with anti bug yellow lenses that can be swapped out when in buggy situations.
I love that you acknowledge this is over the top. I think this gives a lot of great options for people to pick and choose from. I hope you find your happy place again and don't let it fester because of your previous experience.
Replace your alarm sound with a large dog barking. I don't know where I've seen this but it's an idea that stuck with me. Ain't no thief that will want to deal with an angry doggo. Bonus points if you have a surround system and can make it sound like angry doggo is loose in the van.
An excellent video. Nothing is ever 100% thief proof, but as most vehicle break ins are opportunistic it is about making it too difficult for would be thieves to persist with. If your vehicle is more difficult than others, all of these precautions are well worth it. It's similar to the two guys in Africa walking through the bush, when a lion appears and starts running towards them. One guy sits down and quickly puts his runners on. His friend says, "do you seriously think we can outrun a lion." He replies, "I only have to outrun you." These sensible precautions are you outrunning your neighbouring vehicles.
Yes, sadly this is the whole point to reasonable security. Otherwise you need the secret service.
and u call that a friend?ahahah that MF 🤣🤣🤣
Great ideas thanks ... as a single female traveller security is always on my mind.
A comment re stickers on your van ... it is better to put stickers on that are NOT the brand you have installed, just in case info on that brand is available online. Keep them guessing!!!
That's really good point. Advertising exact model or even maker of your immobilizer is NO way.
easy hack when you go on a day trip: take out a fuse from the engine fuse box (like for the engine management module for example). Another idea would be to combine the engine fuse box with a kill switch hidden under the hood. there are also kill switches combined with an on/off key lock you could hide in the driver bay to switch things off and add another bothering layer
I almost installed the same material on my windows, but then I realized I wouldn’t be able to escape if I wound up in the water somehow. Shatter-proof works both ways.
That's what I was thinking. I'd probably put some of that film on most of the windows but leave one window with out it, and if I had a van I'd make sure there's roof access that I can use to escape from.
I bought a test door from a scrap merchant, fitted the stickers to the glass inside and out, then used ** a 'jab saw' ** that is normally used to pierce and cut plasterboard wall panels. It very quickly cut through the glass/plastic layers. This allows a rapid escape from inside. I keep 2 in the cab now, easily reachable from either side.
@craigmacdonald4987 ok guys...PUT YOUR WINDOW IN DOWN POSITION IMMEDIATELY BEFORE YOUR ENGINE GETS FLOODED! ESCAPE THRU YOUR WINDOW AND SWIM!! -Yep, I did ! Even swam with my Boxer dog, purse, keys and cell phone in my bra! The other car had a lady in it...she died in her car.
I am sure this has already been brought up, but layer #1 should be you and your awareness. It doesn't stop everything of course, but people's lack of situational awareness of their environment shocks me to no end! Great vid, thanks for taking the time.
You had me at 1:10 ! Thank you for all the tips! The fact that you sold all your belongings and started traveling with just a backpack is a huge achievement. You did something that many dream of doing, but few would/could do..
Some Wanker broke into our Motorhome years ago but we woke up and chased them off. This happened to us on day 1 of our holiday whilst travelling through France. So, we had 2 weeks of vacation with broken door locks to contend with and worry about. It wasn't the most relaxing of holidays! What this made me realise is that being proactive in persuading the scum bag not to attack the van before they cause any actual damage to the van might be a good thing. I came up with ideas of setting of paparazzi style flashing lights if they got to close to the van, somehow filming them as they approach the van (perhaps nowadays automatically live stream it somewhere) but the video being shown back to them through the window and then I thought about a siren which would get progressively louder as they approached the van and keep going if they did not move away. The tech to achieve all of this was not around at the time but I suspect it's different now. Love the 12 layers and looking forward to seeing how you implement each layer 👍
I like your ideas but, is this going to be very expensive?
A Maglite 6D torch is a perfect as a baton. There are no issues in any country with it being viewed as a prohibited weapon.... after all it's a torch, but the aluminium body and weight of 6 D cell batteries make it a truly effective club.
14:35 I'm pretty sure all those things are illegal in Sweden, don't know about the rest of the EU.
Taser - electric weapon
Pepperspray - chemical weapon
Baton - blunt weapon
*You are not allowed to carry weapons of any kind unless you are a security guard/ police/ military*
Breaking the "weapons law" is quite serious and will result in more than just a fine and a warning.
Baseball bat could be allowed. If you are stopped by police and they find a bat along with a glove, a ball etc, you will be able to argue that you're just bringing sports equipment along on your trip. If it's just a bat it could be considered a weapon.
Same in Denmark
That's a bummer to be honest. I mean - i partially understand the foldable bat of some sort. But pepper spray and taser? They were literally developed as a defensive, non lethal weapons, those are the only useful (debatably) things which a person can carry in order to defend themself. I mean - what are the other options?
Same in Belgium
Same with Finland.
wow these are considered basically party favors in the USA
I recently had someone try to break into my van for the first time in almost 4 years (that I know about), I was laying in bed watching Netflix and heard him trying various door handles; he quickly ran away after I hit the lock button to flash the lights and made some noise inside. Definitely just an opportunist thief, but still nerve-rattling. Always thought about installing a "panic button" near the bed to turn on exterior lights and an alarm.
You could fit a hidden cut-out switch somewhere no-one would think to look, wired into the fuel pump [if it has one] or the engine ecu. For when you leave the van for extended periods of time or a risky location. make sure you put it out of the way, maybe in the living area, yes its inconvenient but it is much better than finding an empty space where the van once was. Also as a quick method if you are caught out, remove a relay for the engine/fuel pump, one that you are sure that it kills the engine, either take it with you or hide it in the back of the van somewhere, set a reminder on your phone just in case you forget its location. Love your videos.
You guys are awesome! I agree with most of your ideas except the safe. Here is what I suggest: Place your safe where it is slightly easier to find (not obvious, but knowing that the thief will find it) choose a good one, mount it as secure as possible, just as you plan to now. BUT do not put anything inside the safe except a note with some version of (be creative) : RUN FOR YOUR LIFE YOU ARE ABOUT TO DIE!!! (Hide your valuables, they will be so convinced that everything good is inside the safe they will focus on that. Which is the reasoning behind this idea!!)
I'm also using many of your layers plus an interesting layer of digitally controlled LEDs both inside and outside our van activated by several types of sensors and deployed on an escalating scale....just a little here and there, example if its dark out (our system knows this and many other things) we will turn on a white interior light as a quick warning to leave, if it is daylight out numerous very high powered colored and white LEDs will convey a similar message. If the threat doesn't leave the light show will quickly escalate turning the interior a bright blood red and many LEDs on all sides including along the edges of our "low profile power tilt solar system will begin to go nuts and draw intense attention. At programmable levels I will add varying degrees of a train horn, starting with a very low feed to the air horns creating what I call the annoying sound of an injured animal, sort of a wail. We will also add audio messages starting out politely and escalating to my being able to see them live through our Dahua Low Light Color cameras and "speak" to them personally in my very deep voice. If after all of this the problem persists, ear piercing blasts from the train horns will begin to occur. I may even add under van specific layers including spraying grey water to douche unauthorized creeps trying to drill a hole in the diesel tank or trying to steal exhaust system parts etc. If we are lucky maybe the grey water will be stinky. Haha We do have the power to do these things supplied by 4 Tesla S modules (about 20KWH) charged by an 8000 watt 48 volt auxiliary alternator and maintained while parked with 1080 watts of solar.
Just like you, I hope to quickly convey the message that anybody considering messing with our van would be wise to just move on. It should be a very unique approach. Love you two!
Would the shatter proof film work on headlights too (to protect against chips and dings)? I wonder….
You can get headlight protector laminates
This anti shatter states it is to be installed on the inside only-haven’t found one for the outside
Probably yes, but I would not buy it. Because headlights are either ..
1. stolen, disassembled from the car. Some are easier to do. And so film will be stolen with them.
2. most modern cars do have headlights mounted via 3 (or little bit more) plastic brackets to the headlight bay. If someone hit the light with baseball bat, it will probably not break the headlight "glass" (even my old MY2003 Subaru had no real glass but acrylic/plastic), but it will most likely break those brackets. Ask someone after light head-to-head collision. Lights are intact except they broke off the brackets.
i would not apply the Anti-Shatter Window Film on the outside. first of all, it is not needed. the purpose of the film is to hold the pieces of glass together when broken/shattered and a single layer on the inside can easily do that. The film will NOT prevent the glass from shattering (car glass is very shatter-proof to begin with).
Also, when applied on the inside only, you can always cut a circle with a sharp knife and then break the window yourself if you have to get out in an emergency and the doors won't unlock (with all your deadbolts) or are blocked/bent. With film also on the outside, you have no chance to get out through the windows.
Oh, and 4mils are not 4millimeters. a "mil" is a thousands of an inch so 4mils are 0.004 inches or about 1/10 of a millimeter.
Surely linking those thunderbolts to the standard central locking system isn't going to offer any extra protection because by passing a vehicle's OEM one can be pretty easy,...slipping a tool between the door glass and the door to activate the lever for example. The standard key hole/lock can be breached by using a flat bladed screwdriver too, hence why fitting extra deadbolt style locks supplied with a Multi T style key are a common thing to see on many a van nowadays. I agree that it's a pain to engage them but there's less weakness/ways for a thief to attack them.
the anti-break window film, may prevent you from emergency escape if ever need?
One of the things that can't overcome yet is the fear of locking everything really good while my dog is inside (maybe cause I need to go somewhere that doesn't allow dogs) and then something electrical or whatever breaks/stops working and I'm not able to rescue her for who knows how long...
This scares me WAY more than getting the van itself stolen (well... Even the thought of someone breaking in and possibly harming/stealing her makes me die inside).
But still, super fantastic tips ❤️❤️❤️
Sticker 1. Also a microchip for Millie, unless the gps tracking device does the same job. About security ideas, a lot of good stuff have been said already. But if I was traveling in a van, in a remote place, my (irrational middle of the night) fear would be that someone would slash my tires so I can't drive away and wait for me outside. I don't know if there is anything to do about that. Also, I would like to have bars or something that would let me open my windows at night without the possibility for someone to get in. Thanks for that awesome video !
You don’t want your windows open at night. Noise, security, weather, bugs, etc…
For side windows that roll down, you can use clear tint film. Take in mind in case of an accident it’s also very hard to come out.
When it is so difficult to get into the van. The thieves imagine that is something very valuable in there.
If your ever in NV, I have a 30acre ranch your welcome to hang out at. We have some very nice community areas BBQs, BBQ, pits, hiking and fishing near by, several tourist attractions etc.
You guys are awesome! I'm happy you're back with your fur baby. I love that you're capitalizing on your hard work by selling your list of components!
Love the video. I put on the window film. It is easy to get the film scratched by the up and down motion of the window if the sweeps are dirty. I’ve called over twenty locksmiths and not found one who will install the thunderbolts on the Van. I’ve emailed with the company a number of times, they have no list of installers. I’m not able to put them on. Maybe I’ll try again.
Very cool, I'mma look into some of those recommendations. I don't currently live in my truck, but I live in a storage garage next to my truck. And despite extra security, my truck has been broken into twice in the last 3months :( I've lost really big. And in between the two break-ins I got even more security which included me being out there a lot with a bat and a camera (and other concealed things) which impeded them from being able to break in to my neighbors' as easily. Which then pissed them off. The second break in they electronically bypassed my locks and my security cameras and left me a warning... which included breaking all my windows, slashing all my tires, ripping out wires and hoses, graffiti, and what they would do to the garage and house too as well as more physical threats (we've gotten into a couple yelling and physical altercations so far). So things have been really shitty here... The harder I make it for them, the more pissed off they seem to get. This is granted/hopefully a rare thing (things here are just really bad and a powder keg where the sun goes down at 5pm and real winter is coming/here and I live in a high crime neighborhood already, in a big city where uprising stuff has interrupted local gang activities and it had become kind of a war between the neighborhood/activists and the gangs) and more focused on my truck being in the same place every night... but I would recommend a full spare tire or two in case they get pissed with the extra security and try puncturing tires... plus roadside assistance (which I assume travelers already have). And please, no commenters comment about how I just need to move because that is not possible.
Wow that is terrible, what location are you in?
This popped up in my feed and I watched it and I love that you are hilarious. You crack me up! That in itself is a major accomplishment, seriously. I have three dogs one of which is my service animal. So yeah I am a little cautious too. I'm picky about where I stay I prefer to stay at a truck stop. I do have a big diesel truck f250 SD 4x4. I can sleep in the driver's seat all curled up and comfy. Anyone comes within 10 yards of us two of them are going to go off and the third one she won't do anything unless you are actually trying to get in the truck. Hey this girl thinks it's her truck. Do you know what it's like to get in your own vehicle and have your K9 giving you the evil side eye. I also have a van but I don't want to drive it because in all honesty even if I'm just taking a little road trip for the weekend and not taking a bunch of stuff so it's more or less empty way and we're going with a tailwind pushing us along I still don't get as good of gas mileage as I do with my truck in town and loaded down. Yes my van is old but I love it I'm not going to get rid of it. If I was told I had to choose between the military truck I want to get and keeping my van I don't know I might have to sell something I don't know what but I'd find something to sell so I could keep both. I look forward to catching up on the videos. Have a great week
My wife and I are both military veterans. We have veteran stickers on our van. We hope that this will be either a sympathy maneuver or they don't know what kind of veterans they will encounter or what their weapons are, so they move onto another vehicle. We also have cameras and GPS tracking. We also do the blackout curtains, so they cannot see inside.
I was sitting in my Rv van and relaxing just then I heard someone try the back door. I pulled out my protection and just set there when the door opened I pointed my protection directly at them and if they made to come in I would have used it. They screamed and ran. Not before I got a picture of both
I notified the police and filed a complaint.
A gas detector in mandatory to have! One that detects LPG & especially the sleeping gas.
Hadn’t thought of that before! Ladi and I both had our phones stolen when someone sprayed sleeping gas in our tent in Uganda. Another crazy travel story. Good idea
Wow, sleeping gas. I've never heard of that being used in America. Not saying it isn't used but the way you guys are talking about it, it almost seems common over there. How scarry. Glad you're ok after being victimized in Uganda.
My parents were on the same camping area in southern europe as a motorhome that had a similar thing happen to it.. The thieves removed the waste water pipe from the external container and filled the vehicle with gas through the pipe, presumably it would exit through the sink plug hole. Then they used a Stanley knife type blade to cut the plastic windows the Europe motorhomes have. Ed
#Ring doorbell equivalent tripling as a video camera, motion sensor, and speaker/micro phone in order to sense, see, and even talk to visitors (expected or otherwise)! #SimpliSafe for internal vehicle surveillance could be helpful to monitor valuables.
Keep up the great content #LadiAndMargaret!!!
I've shared this with my colleagues in the Rail industry: we leave vans with £000,s worth of tools in dodgy areas when we are working
It looks like the Thunderbolt locks need to be installed before the buildout? And just out of curiosity... what would you estimate all 12 of these layers of security would cost?
Sticker number one. I love knowing you want to protect your cat like this. I would do the same. No one messes with my kitties.
Security is so important! We live full time in our American RV, and found this video so inspirational! Packed with great security systems! Thanks so much!
You forgot or actually neglected the most common scenario: K.O. Gas through a vent while you're sleeping inside. Gives the thief all the time in the world to break into your van with you inside completely knocked out. Most common scenario in France and Italy. Always install a 3in1 gas alarm in your van even if you don't run it on Butane/Propane and ideally link it to outside lights so the thief gets scared off the moment he drops the gas plus I have programmed my fans to go beast mode to extract as much gas as possible immediately.
Some vans can be opened with a wedge at the door jamb and then a long reaching tool to press the door unlock button. If thunder-locks are linked to the same security system as what come with the van, this could be a weak point, unless the thunderlock was installed higher up the door jamb to provide no opportunity to bend the jambs.
Two way alarm so you’re notified if a door is opened or motion was detected.
Question about the powered central locking layer. If your battery goes flat, can you unlock your van?
Are you concerned about someone stealing your catalytic converter?
Bear spray.
I like to look at myself as someone who thinks out of the box. And because I've never been broken into I don't know if this works or not, but I am positive my theory is sound anyway lmao!
And because I travel with some very high dollar tactical stuff and weapons Iike an AR15, night vision and thermal, it's very important for me to make sure they are secured! I'm talking $20,000 worth stuff.
So what I do is this. I have 2 actual safes, one small and a larger version.
Then I mount them in the van very secure so it would be one hell of a lot of work to break it loose... but possible and make it known that it's possible. Basically something that is not as easy as it looks.
I also buy a higher quality safe so it would be a little more difficult to break them open as well.
I mount them so they are hidden, but not really hidden, if you know what I mean. I try to make it look like I'm trying to hide them, but in reality you can spot them by moving a couple things which is exactly what someone would do if they're trying to steal from you.
I label one "Gun Safe" and the other "Cash & Documents"
So my thinking is if they believe it's mounted so well they won't be able to take it, then they will move on and leave it be.
But if I give them the impression that it's doable with a little bit of extra work and with the labels now, letting them know the extra work is def worth the extra effort, they are going to waste one HELL of a lot of time trying to either break it loose or break it open!
Just for kicks I throw in 50 pound dumbbell weights, so if they do get it loose it's going to be all they can carry for the moment lol.
Time is always your friend and never your enemy when it comes to a thief and the longer it takes them the better chance they are going to get caught!!! Every minute that goes by is an extra minute of time you have to stop it.
The kicker here is not a few feet away I have the real guns hidden behind a side wall panel :)
Change number 9 for a ghost alarm. With the ignition on you have press a sequence of buttons before the van will start. Money well spent 😉
Ladi & Margaret, you have 12 layers, levels of security. Some are power hungry. Some are passive.
It’s a hot day you parked up. Millie is safe in her under seat den. You lock up, head off to get some supplies.
It’s 40degrees you get back the thunder bolt remote doesn’t work? Batteries dead!
The van is dead locked and you can’t get passed the thunder bolts.
How will you get in?
Or same scenario you come back and there’s a power failure on the van. No central locking.
How you getting in.
That part we don’t tell you, but we know how.
@@ladiandmargaret
Good you got it covered 👍🏻
Add to #11 a can of wasp spray. It sprays 20 feet and irritates the eyes. Just remember to shake it up once in awhile to keep it ready to use. Also a whistle will scare someone away.
Is Millie able to tolerate a harness? When you are on the road having her not jump out into traffic or at night would help and she also wouldn't have to be cooped up in a carrier. You might think she won't jump out at an inconvenient time but what if a big dog is barking at her?
You could also add #13, self defense classes. You can learn alot of practical tips in one 2 hour class that don't even entail tackling someone to the ground. Suppose you are walking down the street and someone grabs your upper arm from behind and tries to hustle you away. Swing your body around and connect the heel of your hand on their chin with an upward thrust. There are alot more scenarios taught. My cousin is a corrections officer at a prison. He gave me a couple tips. If someone grabs you around your throat and backs you up against a wall, grab their forearms and go limp, they will hit their head on the wall. Good luck.😊
as others here have mentioned a reply to similar comments, this may be illegal, and worse is not as effective as pepper spray.
Love the self defense tips though!
thinking about your locking system and if the start battery was to run flat. Have you thought about using Renogy 12V 50A DC-DC On-Board Battery Charger with MPPT? This allows solar to charge your starter Battery as well.
A good security system to have on any vehicle, is a gearshift lock similar to those found as standard on Saab cars, if a potential thief can't get any gears the vehile is going nowhere.. xxx
What about skylights, openings on top?
My wife and I both have Apple Airtags in each of our cars. Hidden so nobody would ever find them but it means you can use find my airtag to locate the car if it's ever stolen. Peace of mind for us.
How does the Airtag communicate back to you? Does it need to be in range of wifi or cel service?
Hi Margaret did you every get around to fitting the glass shatter film to your windows, this video is great and another one showing Ladi installing the film would be brilliant, many thanks for the content that you share, it’s fantastic 👍
Did you look into how to avoid break-ins using a keyless repeater? A device that copies the unlock signal of the van key remote. Then most of the security layers you prepared would be jumped over. If bad guys see you off/onloading two kickass electric bikes, they will try the best tricks I guess.
Loud siren (s) might be a good idea but you didn't mention anything like a safe where you would store a laptop, drone and other valuables. The bikes? Chained down or insurance is enough?
Love how fun and charismatic you are in all your videos! And the way you present the info is always easy to follow and digest.
Have you ever had a situation in which YOU had to break into your own van? How about exiting?
What would you do to prevent it from being towed?
Love the channel and all your projects!
Hey guys, I just started watching, GREAT build series! I’m really impressed with your attention to detail and DIY mindset. We’ll be welding our own water and waste tanks as well, ala @Lacroix Cruiser, and will now be incorporating many of your design ideas for those tanks and a number of other systems, including security!
I’m curious about the GPS tracker for Millie. We’ll be traveling with a cat and a dog who both need trackers. The best for us that I’ve found so far is the Jiobit. I like that it’s connected via 4G mobile networks but also has WiFi capability which extends the battery life. It’s fairly small, but I’m still unsure if it’s small enough for the cat. Have you found a better solution? Maybe something for a future video. I know a lot of us travel with pets!
would be fun if there were hard to wash paints that spray the thieves hands to identify later but it also would mess up the van...
I would do a special shelve where you can practically see the wallet and you just have to reach in for it but then the thieves hand gets snared in with hand cuff and thick chain so he cant escape...
Is there a way to be able to have your safe also be a charging station? I think the biggest risk there is needing to charge them so not locking them up.
Just drill a hole in your safe and run the charging cables.
We had a Mitsubishi van that we drove thru Italy and Poland years ago. Our best /only protection was our dog (who growled) and the muzzle we hung on the rearview mirror. So maybe a fake sleeping dog and muzzle so Millie isn't upset.
Many people mentioned the kill switch. Make sure it cuts off fuel, and not power. That way thiefs can still run off with the van, but will be left stranded after a few blocks when the fuel in the hose runs out. Otherwise you risk a violent situation where they try to hurt you so you enable the switch again. Also, if this switch can be accessed through your phone as well, that's an extra point. (I'm building something similar in my van). Last, I don't know what measures to suggest, but be careful with confrontational thefts. They are super unlikely, especially in Europe, but you can have all the systems you want, but it's better to lose a hard drive than to be hurt by a thief. I guess, backup anything important to the cloud always, so the worst loss can be covered with $ from the insurance provider...
That's not how vehicles work anymore.
The fuel pump will be in the fuel tank so cutting off the fuel with a valve will stop all operation regardless. There will be no stranded after a few blocks because it just won't start. There won't be enough pressure in the injectors to run.
Great security systems.
Will there also be safety systems? Like fire alarm, CO2 alarm, sleep gas alarm, fire extinguisher, water and fuel tank locks, emergency kit for pet and human?
extra layer, only works in USA: get a manual stick shift vehicle, sounds a joke, but most of the people, including thieves, can't drive them
True ! 😂
The best by far personal protection I have in house van toolbox and is legal worldwide Wasp and Hornet spray no permit needed and shoots 20 feet.
I would add an hidden switch for cutting power from the battery (so they will have difficulties on turning the engine on) I like #1 sticker :)
Only Margaret can make a video about security systems entertaining.
Curious what you would do in an emergency where the van was flooding? Normally the move would be to break your side window to get out. Does the risk of break-in just outweigh that risk?
They didn’t mention the windshield being wrapped and that’s the window you would usually break if the van was flooding so I presume the did that invade of flooding
@@ashtonrobertsss ah, that makes sense!
@@ashtonrobertsss Windshields are made of laminated glass for safety (they don't break or puncture easily). Side windows are made of tempered glass (and can shatter easily if hit with a sharp device).
The video here is demonstrating how someone can add the lamination material to make the side windows also shatter resistant.
Google windshields: "In many countries, including the U.S., auto windshields are required by law to be made of laminated glass. Laminated glass can bend slightly under impact and is less likely to shatter than normal safety glass. This quality reduces the risk of injury to the automobile's passengers."
@@janekarr6318 Windshields are made of laminated glass for safety (they don't break or puncture easily). Side windows are made of tempered glass (and can shatter easily if hit with a sharp device).
The video here is demonstrating how someone can add the lamination material to make the side windows also shatter resistant.
Google windshields: "In many countries, including the U.S., auto windshields are required by law to be made of laminated glass. Laminated glass can bend slightly under impact and is less likely to shatter than normal safety glass. This quality reduces the risk of injury to the automobile's passengers."
@@steadmanuhlich6734 Ok thankyou for the information! So I presume window alarms would be the best move since you can’t put it on the side windows (for safety) and the wind shield is already super strong?
As a self defense tool, pepper spray in an enclosed space may not be the best option since it will incapacitate you as well. Someone mentioned a fire extinguisher as an option which I like. Also, the aerosol wasp and hornet killer spray that shoots several feet might be a good alternative.
Why wouldn't someone just remove your exhaust fans up top and climb in?
That would have to be a very skinny guy.
The stickers are great. Solar powered led on all doors . Motion sensors. That chirps. Sensors that turn on lights around the exterior. Solar powered. Panic button that triggers alarm and lights.
Great ideas. Definitely going to use theses on our build. Sticker 1 adventure cat on board.
woot woot! Adventure cat votes are ahead of the game ATM
@@ladiandmargaret That should be "Adventure Cat on board" - like her Superhero name
Have you considered installing a hidden immobilisor that would prevent your van from starting or being driven away. For example, the Autowatch Ghost-II CANbus Immobiliser. All of the 12 layers yourve mentioned wont stop the van (and Millie) from actually being stolen if they do get in and you are miles away from the van.
Just a red flashing led in the dashboard does miracles.
steel plate box for pedals and steel plate locking device. steel plate for diesel tank and steel armored fuel lines. otherwise if bad people want to let you stranded in the middle of nowhere they could easily cut your fuel lines or pinch the fuel tank.
Awesome work on securing locks, windows, and alarms/tracking. Just make sure you have contingency in case you end up in the river or your vehicle catches fire. It might be not possible to open the doors due to water pressure, that is until pressure equalizes, which means the inside of sinking vehicle would be full of water. Perhaps the side door still can be opened, since it opens side ways. Your setup looks excessive, but many items are so-called low-hanging fruits, which are always worth considering. I recommend you consider fire safety and do a video on fire extinguishers. I purchased 3x 2kg ABC extinguishers, each for a compartment, plus have an older BC one, and considering an automatic fire suppressor system for the engine bay and/or fridge. RV fires are common and devastating, easily one of the worst fires known to man, since there is so much combustible, quick-burning material inside, including fuels, gases, and combustible metals!