I don't think something messed up. Remember the Fun Pimps during the stream said that it would take 2 experienced 7DTD multiplayers around 70 days to get through the game? Well, it took IzPrebuilt 23 in-game days and Guns Nerds and Steele 42 in-game days. I don't think they liked that at all. So, I think the last update was to break progression on purpose before the launch of stable and console. Why? Well don't forget the TFP don't like people playing the game outside of the way they want the game to be played. Remember they removed barbwire, cones, and introduced horde night zombie bashing because players created bases dropping the zombies, the barbwire was slowing down the horde and the cones were being used upside down to damage the zombies. This was not an accident. If it was an accident, a patch would have been out to fix it immediately. Don't forget they released 3 patches (b325, b326 & b327) in one day, why not fix this right away? I suspect that the quests at the higher difficulties change the design of the high tier POIs and rig them with more elaborate zombie non escapable traps that they don't want 7DTD RUclipsrs to discover film and give away. Just IMO. 🤗🤗
We joked on Prebuilt's discord the other day that we're convinced TFP sit in the boardroom and go "the players are having fun, we need to stop it". I don't like reading this opinion of yours, it makes too much sense 🤣🤣 I'm really glad TFP don't watch my videos, for all intents and purposes I was done with what I "needed" by day 28, even after they dropped the spawn rates of the books in the Crack-a-Book POI's
If you look at the achievements for this game, the Pimps want you to DIE, a lot. From A1, players have been making a mockery of that want. In A10 many players would simply have no base and just run up and down a street, killing the zombies. In A14-16 you could build bedrock deep trap castles, and just collect the loot. As of A20, the Pimps have gone out of their way to make the game increasingly not -fun. They've never fixed the drone, and it's pointless to have it. The cone spikes were the best, and as another writer has pointed out, the Pimps hate those spikes. The Pimps also seem to hate any progress including agricultural farms. The zombies will pause in their need to kill you, and destroy your farm. I remember when we were allowed, in the dev console, to build with bedrock. It only took one unasked for update to kill that.
Anyone who sees this, if I'm wrong please feel free to correct me, but I think one of the devs on livestream once said that they are trying to make you play the game "the right way" (whatever that means). The Pimps are hell bent on making the players play the game their way, and the community as a whole is just like "NO, we will play our way and there's nothing you can do to stop it"
Yeah i thought something was wrong with my game last night. I was certain I was up to tier 3 but trader only had tier 2 for me. Not as bad as going 6 down to 3 though.
@@LambiPlays I mean, I don't really see a problem with their statement. It's experimental, things will break, everyone should be aware of this already. And that's "the attitude" which they take. Experimental is not supposed for you to have a problem free playthrough. Between updates and even within an update you can run into problems, crashes or even savegame-breaking stuff that can happen. And as someone going with the experiemental build, you opted in to that.
Oh absolutely. Admittedly at the time of writing the comment, the phrasing they used felt dismissive. However, given the benefit of hindsight, reading other comments and speaking to other creators, yes, we do opt in to the possibility of game breaking updates. Between my old steam account and my new one, I've played over 2k hours of 7 days and gone through several experimental builds, I should not be surprised at all
Why you have to be careful with Experimental builds, but also reinforces my personal opinion the sooner TFP 'finish' with 7d2d, the sooner Mod creators can make a good game from the framework.
I decided to bite the bullet and start a new game (I was on day 28) and using the old pregens, i did all the trouble shooting to get my save to work again, but then also found out id ran into the Tier resetting problems, I guess its sort of expected being experimental so im not too angry about it
Yeah, I'll ride this one out for the sake of the series, getting the day 35 and hopefully day 42 blood moons done before they go into official release. Honestly, I'm not angry about it, it's more, disgruntled because I have to change plans, but angry... naah, you expect things to go pear shaped when it's all experimental
@@LambiPlays Oh no i wasn't saying you were angry, alot of people on the Steam forums are though, Which is funny because like you said its experimental and people should expect things to change and break from time to time, until full release when hopefully it shouldn't happen
The game has changed peoples play style and purposeso much. I feel like people only play to do trader quests and then they don't know what to do after that
It is honestly, 2k hours in, still my biggest complaint. Even with the challenges that they brought in for V1.0, the only true measure of progression we have as players, is trader quests ... however, I have an idea for my next series, that could potentially be really fun
The modding communtiy is still very active, many of the mods have already been updated to V1.0, and a lot of the big overhaul mods have been pegged to still be updated
lol... if u watched 1 min longer ud see hes not too upset bout it and just plays the game... its normall for one to be a little bit anoyed after so much progress is lost over something that should not happen, even if it is experimental.. theyve had 11 years of experimenting ... they release the full game, not in alpha anymore... still as being experimental and still a huge roadmap ahead... which will all be experimental at first... im also anoyed that my tiers got set back cause i was about to do my second to last T5 to get T6s, now i gotta do more of lower ones again to get to that stage again
I tend to be a monotone complainy guy when they mess up, I won't lie, and it's a setback to say the least, but hey, I'm going to continue playing the game, it's just messed with my planning.
@@LambiPlays aye i feel u. My setback just made me make a new save really.. i was doing this sneak build and if u watch GNS at all, u see that its way to OP lol.. so i wa getting pretty bored of it anyhow...
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I don't think something messed up. Remember the Fun Pimps during the stream said that it would take 2 experienced 7DTD multiplayers around 70 days to get through the game? Well, it took IzPrebuilt 23 in-game days and Guns Nerds and Steele 42 in-game days. I don't think they liked that at all. So, I think the last update was to break progression on purpose before the launch of stable and console. Why? Well don't forget the TFP don't like people playing the game outside of the way they want the game to be played. Remember they removed barbwire, cones, and introduced horde night zombie bashing because players created bases dropping the zombies, the barbwire was slowing down the horde and the cones were being used upside down to damage the zombies. This was not an accident. If it was an accident, a patch would have been out to fix it immediately. Don't forget they released 3 patches (b325, b326 & b327) in one day, why not fix this right away? I suspect that the quests at the higher difficulties change the design of the high tier POIs and rig them with more elaborate zombie non escapable traps that they don't want 7DTD RUclipsrs to discover film and give away. Just IMO. 🤗🤗
We joked on Prebuilt's discord the other day that we're convinced TFP sit in the boardroom and go "the players are having fun, we need to stop it". I don't like reading this opinion of yours, it makes too much sense 🤣🤣 I'm really glad TFP don't watch my videos, for all intents and purposes I was done with what I "needed" by day 28, even after they dropped the spawn rates of the books in the Crack-a-Book POI's
If you look at the achievements for this game, the Pimps want you to DIE, a lot.
From A1, players have been making a mockery of that want.
In A10 many players would simply have no base and just run up and down a street, killing the zombies.
In A14-16 you could build bedrock deep trap castles, and just collect the loot.
As of A20, the Pimps have gone out of their way to make the game increasingly not -fun. They've never fixed the drone, and it's pointless to have it.
The cone spikes were the best, and as another writer has pointed out, the Pimps hate those spikes.
The Pimps also seem to hate any progress including agricultural farms. The zombies will pause in their need to kill you, and destroy your farm.
I remember when we were allowed, in the dev console, to build with bedrock. It only took one unasked for update to kill that.
Anyone who sees this, if I'm wrong please feel free to correct me, but I think one of the devs on livestream once said that they are trying to make you play the game "the right way" (whatever that means). The Pimps are hell bent on making the players play the game their way, and the community as a whole is just like "NO, we will play our way and there's nothing you can do to stop it"
Yeah i thought something was wrong with my game last night. I was certain I was up to tier 3 but trader only had tier 2 for me. Not as bad as going 6 down to 3 though.
Nah for once it's not client side. Like, +1 to them for acknowledging it, -100 for the attitude with which they did it.
@@LambiPlays I mean, I don't really see a problem with their statement. It's experimental, things will break, everyone should be aware of this already.
And that's "the attitude" which they take. Experimental is not supposed for you to have a problem free playthrough. Between updates and even within an update you can run into problems, crashes or even savegame-breaking stuff that can happen. And as someone going with the experiemental build, you opted in to that.
Oh absolutely. Admittedly at the time of writing the comment, the phrasing they used felt dismissive. However, given the benefit of hindsight, reading other comments and speaking to other creators, yes, we do opt in to the possibility of game breaking updates. Between my old steam account and my new one, I've played over 2k hours of 7 days and gone through several experimental builds, I should not be surprised at all
I was sent all the way back to tier ONE! lol. Was on tier 5.
Yea I’m on day 88 and in the wasteland and noticed the tier 3. I thought it was just my game
Why you have to be careful with Experimental builds, but also reinforces my personal opinion the sooner TFP 'finish' with 7d2d, the sooner Mod creators can make a good game from the framework.
Imagine having the world reset like that. That is what the md5 error did to console
... controllers will be left in the wake of my temper tantrum
Looking at how hard some people got hit by this update I kind of feel lucking only drop from T3 to T1.
Just grab some trader tickets from the creative menu and bump it back up 🤷♂
I decided to bite the bullet and start a new game (I was on day 28) and using the old pregens, i did all the trouble shooting to get my save to work again, but then also found out id ran into the Tier resetting problems, I guess its sort of expected being experimental so im not too angry about it
Yeah, I'll ride this one out for the sake of the series, getting the day 35 and hopefully day 42 blood moons done before they go into official release. Honestly, I'm not angry about it, it's more, disgruntled because I have to change plans, but angry... naah, you expect things to go pear shaped when it's all experimental
@@LambiPlays Oh no i wasn't saying you were angry, alot of people on the Steam forums are though, Which is funny because like you said its experimental and people should expect things to change and break from time to time, until full release when hopefully it shouldn't happen
The game has changed peoples play style and purposeso much. I feel like people only play to do trader quests and then they don't know what to do after that
It is honestly, 2k hours in, still my biggest complaint. Even with the challenges that they brought in for V1.0, the only true measure of progression we have as players, is trader quests ... however, I have an idea for my next series, that could potentially be really fun
I went from 4 to 1.. was wondering if im dumb :D
o my god i just went on my game and also got from T5s to T3s again... fk that suxxx
DO THE NODS STILL WORK OR HAS MAD MOLE PISSED AND RAN OFF THE MODDDERS LIKE HE DID ON THAT AWFUL RELEASE ON 16 OR 17 , BACK WHEN ARKLAST CAME OUT!!!
The modding communtiy is still very active, many of the mods have already been updated to V1.0, and a lot of the big overhaul mods have been pegged to still be updated
I literally stopped watch cuz the first 3 mins is you complaining about something braking in an experimental build
lol... if u watched 1 min longer ud see hes not too upset bout it and just plays the game... its normall for one to be a little bit anoyed after so much progress is lost over something that should not happen, even if it is experimental.. theyve had 11 years of experimenting ... they release the full game, not in alpha anymore... still as being experimental and still a huge roadmap ahead... which will all be experimental at first... im also anoyed that my tiers got set back cause i was about to do my second to last T5 to get T6s, now i gotta do more of lower ones again to get to that stage again
I tend to be a monotone complainy guy when they mess up, I won't lie, and it's a setback to say the least, but hey, I'm going to continue playing the game, it's just messed with my planning.
@@LambiPlays aye i feel u. My setback just made me make a new save really.. i was doing this sneak build and if u watch GNS at all, u see that its way to OP lol.. so i wa getting pretty bored of it anyhow...