Our Turbo Mustang Finally Broke
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What are your AFRs in full boost ?
That clip of the 2-3 pull was hard to see. Just wondering, I’m also driving a boosted 2v
Looking at my dyno sheet appears to be around 11.5 - 11.9ish
Bro I’ve lived the boosted 2v life. I’ve broke one skirt. Then I windowed two blocks. Lost a smaller piece on the broken skirt though but when the piece made it out of the turbo it would run and drive fine.
Yeah my stang still drove but I never got into boost didn't wanna change anymore carnage. Getting the short block rebuilt now
If you guys don't have the right fuel the cheapest option is to get meth injection the old-school guys will go with the snow meth injection there's also aem's meth injection also
Yeah I've spoken to a few guys about meth injection. I think I'm gonna get a solid fuel system and stay away from meth for now but if I end up needing it I'll buy a kit. I've heard AEM's is a solid choice
My n/a 2 valve loved smacking spark plugs as well
Hahah must be a common thing with these damn cars
How much timing were you running and how much boost were you running
Not sure about timing I forget but boost was 7.5lbs
@@RatchetWrenches timing is why you popped the piston. I'm at 12.4psi 13 degrees timing on stock bottom end with e85. No problem yet..
Simple solution.....COYOTE SWAP AND DONE!
Haha not so simple and can be more expensive then building a 2v. It's for some people but not me. Definitely a great motor though. I like the sounds of a 2v though
Did you ever figure out exactly what went wrong? I was planning on putting the On3 kit on my 98 GT, but its got 135k on it, so I'm terrified its not gonna last. I plan to keep it conservative, 450 HP at the crank or less... BTW Cody at straight line solutions seems like a great guy, I had some questions for him, letting him know up front I had no plans to buy anything until a year out, n he told me to call, and had a long conversation and answered all of my questions about the turbo kit and fuel system upgrades, solid dude for sure!
Never figured out exactly no. If i were to guess, probably gave it a little too much throttle in 4th gear at too low of a RPM putting too much load on the engine which caused detonation. Or could've been bad fuel in the tank. With those power numbers you should fine for sure as long as you don't bring it past 6200 RPM and don't put a ton of load on the engine in higher gears. But yeah Cody is a great guy never pushes you to buy anything if you aren't ready and is knowledgeable!
450 at the crank isnt conservative... thats pretty close to the limit of the 2v rod. Find a junkyard 2v and put a forged rod/piston combo in it and then send it.
Bro, this isn’t bad news. This was inevitable. The 2v can be built, but the stock pistons and rods just need to go. It’s all good, even you expected it at some point. Can’t wait to see it back on the road.
Thank you! Can't wait to get it back and driving again
Same exact thing happened to my mach in the beginning of summer through a new plug in and was fine till I got into boost
It sucks. I haven't gotten into boost and I didn't want to the last time I drove it cause the same thing would probably happen and I'd need to get it towed
@@RatchetWrenches yeah I pulled out of work banged second then loud pop through the exhaust then started miss firing and smoking..luckily I was able to baby it home and there she sits..I have a new engine In the garage teksid block,eagle crank,mmr rods,diamond cut 2k pistons have my appointment setup for the first week of Dec so I should be ready to cruise next year..get yours ready to man..I'm from NJ too I wanna cruise..sussex county is where I'm located
Lucky that spark plug didn't hop out and destroy the head like it did on my vic. Ps I'm building on 01 p71 vic with t56 mag stage 3 mhs heads stage turbo cams t76 turbo bbk bolt ons aka Cai underdrive pulley kit and throttle body. I was going to on3 it but pieced together my own turbo kit also has a fully forged block and 3.73 gears. Building for 1300 hp. If interested check my page out down the road I'll be getting it back within 2 months.
Yea thankfully that didn't happen. Sounds like it's gonna be a monster wow best of luck with the build I'll definitely check out your page
Kenne belle, I know it’s more money but that was my recommendation from the beginning…Sorry about your issues, but I would sell the on3 kit and grab the 2.1 KB…
If they had a good tune on it and ran great for months how would switching to a supercharger make a difference? It sounds like pretty standard 2v power limits finally took their toll and it wouldve happened no matter where the boost was coming from
No offense my man the kb supercharger is nice but that on3 kit for the money is definitely the way to go I've seen plenty of on3 kits put some big numbers down for decent $. Plus it would be counter productive to go supercharger when he already has the on3 kit.
Kenne bell is great and all but I already have the turbo kit so it would be pointless to completely switch set ups. My turbo can push up to 700HP which the 2.1 cannot.
I'm curious why yall didn't run motorcraft plugs, are they not able to handle the power?
There were 2 plugs a lot of people recommended using and the motorcrafts weren't one of them. I'm not sure if they would be good or not I haven't done research on them
@@RatchetWrenches You have the right plugs. It just the weak block. It happens to all who runs boost.
@@RatchetWrenches yeah, cause I know Motorcraft plugs are really reliable for non boosted 4.6's but not too sure about boosted ones, good luck with everything, hope yall get it back running smoothly soon!
Same thing happened to me on mine sc mustang, took heads out the clown of the piston fail cylinder #2 , bore 20 over went with Manley forged crank , rods and pistons 9.1 compression. That’s the fix for 2v engines for forced induction,
Yep that's my plan. Have heard good things about Manley parts
Get with Straight Line Solutions for your parts. Cody hooked me up with a budget friendly forged build.
You must've skipped over the part where I put on the screen and talked about how Cody is our channel sponsor for Mustang parts
I’m thinking about getting the on3 turbo kit for my 4.6 but I’m not too sure on it now, do you think if I get spark plugs that run cooler will I run into the same issue?
Honestly I'm still not 100% sure what the exact culprit was. But if you don't have a built engine, eventually something will give unless you run really low boost with a super conservative tune at low power but then what's the point of it all 😂
What is a safe amount of hp and torque to run on a stock block? I am completely stock rn and about to pull the trigger on the on3 kit but don't wanna push it too far and blow anything. What would you guys recommend in turns of power numbers?
It's hard to say if there's a "true safe number" since there are so many factors that go into boosting these cars. I've heard generally less then 450HP should be safe but then again here I am. The torque is what really kills these motors overtime from what I've heard. I'd run closer to 350-400 with a conservative tune and you should still have a blast with it!
Kenne Belle 2.1… Designed just for the 2v to last..
Buy the modular head shop kit they are the best in the league. They have helped build Andrew lavender mustang and if you don't know who he is go check him out he's well over 950hp in his atm and has multiple mustangs of the new edge platform with different builds from the on3 to procharged.
That's where I got my cams from yep MHS knows what they are doing in the modular game for sure. I love watching Andrew's videos he has one badass car!
Yea mhs is the way to go man get that manley forged crank some k1 forged rods and some nice wiesco forged pistons. Build that block up put some sleeves in it and run that dam thing to 850 easy.
Mine went pop last weekend, luckily just the intake manifold blew up!! Lol. Lookin forward to the vid of you with the engine apart.
I was hoping it was just the intake manifold but I wasn't that lucky this time
how much hp/tq are you pushing, debating either putting in an on3 or waiting a few years and coyote swapping, I’ll go with the on 3 if I can do it without blowing my stock motor
@@n7lt257 if you are asking me, I have never been on a dyno so i couldnt say. I have tuned it myself, and its very fast. I can tell you that WOT it is between 12-14psi boost at the 5-6000 rpm range, cant remember exact timing, AFR 12.0 i think.
Well, we and you knew it was unfortunately bound to happen sooner or later. Sucks but, now it will get built and you can REALLY have some fun 💪. Project car???🤔
Exactly and yep time to turn it up! Always a project car now haha
@@RatchetWrenches right lol. No I was talking about the new project car you mentioned lol. Yes sir a boosted car will for sure be a on going project but, it's soooooo worth it 👌
Mine is in the middle of a total rebuild. Heads are shot 3 pistons gone. So the shop that is at is using terminator pistons ,rods, and bearings. They bored it 30 over and new heads. Going to be interesting when they dyno tune it. Going to keep running under 10psi boost because I want the reliability but engine builder figures should be around 500 to the tires. Sound like exactly what happened to mine. Came off a gravel road onto a 4 lane black top. Did a semi hard pull and when I shifted from 3rd to 4th she backfired and started making a pile of noise. I limped it home and then drove it to the performance shop that discovered the carnage
That's sick they are using a termi block! That should be reliable as long as it's built correctly. Depending on what turbo you use can definitely crank it up in the future too
@@RatchetWrenches exact same as yours I believe. On 3 75mm
@@cameronkaeding2772 76/65? Yeah so far it's been a great turbo. Good for 700HP ish I believe
@@RatchetWrenches I Qasim running around 7 psi boost before the destruction. It just wasn't built to take the power I was throwing at it but it will be now
@@cameronkaeding2772 the stock pistons and rods definitely aren't made for it that's for sure! But yeah I can't wait until I can safely push above 500HP to the wheels
Keep an eye on intake manifold gasket if your doing an overhaul, it’s never a bad idea especially with the 2vs and one thing I’ve run into as an owner of 2 built 2vs and 2 stock 2vs if your going aftermarket coil packs just spend extra on ford performance msd has failed me 5 times they just don’t have the build quality or just haven’t refined their design. Good things to do are cobra r water pump gasket and if your state allows or doesn’t care enough an egr delete. Nothing made my 2vs reliable like an egr delete and tune.
I'm probably going to upgrade to a Victor Jr intake so I'll have a new gasket there. I agree I went with all new Ford coil packs, I've heard mixed reviews on MSD's. I'm rocking the EGR delete also and it cleans up the engine bay a bit too 👍🏼
This just means bigger turbo!
Facts!
Damn bro I am happy that I could help but as someone said the 2v can be built look at mine and this is common. Hit me up so we can get that 2v built
Absolutely it can be built and it will! Thanks for the help and support 🤙🏽
It's all good I'm looking forward to the next step of each ever direction you go.
Thanks for the support 🤘🏽
Why not run colder plugs?
Didn't really hear of any issues with these plugs when building the car. I'll be running different plugs next season though
Sorry to hear about the 2v. Remember tear down and rebuild. You all winter to get part you want to make motor stronger.
Exactly we'll use the winter to come back stronger next year with a built motor 💪🏽
Dang it broke
I know it sucks but we're gonna come back stronger then ever next year 💪🏽
@@RatchetWrenches we’ll be waiting on the Great comeback for sure 💯❤️
Dam bro I’m sorry this came up on the channel but please don’t stop the build would love to see this thing back up and running again! Maybe even a harder comeback baby! Let’s get her in the road again😎🔥
You're gonna see 2.0 next season and she'll be one bad bitch!
Just a little speed bump, it’ll be back better than ever now. Some of these cars live a long time at that power level and some just don’t. I would def look into boring the cylinders and maybe adding some compression while it’s apart. I wish I would have when mine was apart.
Couldn't have said it better! And yes probably gonna do .020 over and maybe switch over to E85 but still thinking about it
so glad Drew could come out and help you guys on the 2v! Hes a great guy, he's helping me get everything together to put cams in my own 2v.
He absolutely is! The engine pull video will be up real soon it was epic. Good luck with your build
@@RatchetWrenches thanks man! I'm just trying to hit 11s on sbe without a power adder at the moment. 12.9 with just bolt ons and dyno tune. Drew was helping me at our local strip to dial in the 60'. Down to a 1.72 with the stock 3.27 gears. Can't wait to see what this black 2v does at the track!!
Hope You Guys Dont Give Up On The 2V. Sorry To Hear This.
We ain't giving up, we're only getting started 💪🏽
@@RatchetWrenches Yes Sir! Let's Go!
L&M engine block.
If my block is still ok I'm gonna reuse it and put forge internals but if not I'll look into them!