What I love about Clive is the passion the devs had about creating his character on both the Tekken and FF16 teams. The idea that both Jin and Clive are breaking free from their fate and creating their own path is so inspirational. As someone who's 24 and who missed out on college due to covid, this really hit me and got me inspired to not just play the games, but to improve my own situation.
Hello there fellow gamers. Konami actualy had 2 fighting games on the PS1 The first was a Japan release only called Lightning Legend: Daigo no Daibouken and another called Kensei Sacred Fist. The later one was kinda of a Tekken clone, even though it was a punch, kick, grab and not a block button, but a dodge button. It looked pretty cool at the time. There were so many experimentation on both 2d and 3d fighting games in that era, but many fell into obscurity unfortunately. Great podcast you three. Keep on keeping on. Cheers everyone and happy gaming
They were so hyped they didnt have a thumbnail for the video 😂 Edit: Also, i dont think Axel would fit in VF because he has flame moves. Feel like he would fit better in Tekken or Street Fighter
23:07 I actually feel like this is less for a single player mode and moreso how the actual game will be like. Ultima said this on Twitter, but I feel he described this the best in that the new VF so far has the vibes of classic action movies. And I feel with the combination of how the trailer was, Akira's design, the aesthetic of the whole game, and the stage being *organic* instead of being like older VF games where it's some random arena with simple map shapes, that may actually be what they're going for
There's a timeline somewhere out there where Tekken and Soulcalibur consolidated into the same team and we just got each game on the others off years, ala Mortal Kombat and Injustice.
You know what would be super hype? An episode with Kenny dood unroolie and Matt McMuscle's chatting about Mortal Kombat lore... That kinda alliance would be considered deadly
Cracking up cause we're definitely gonna get a timeskip Jacky cause one of his customization designs in VF4 Final Tuned has him with a scruffy look with long hair.
Jacky’s new appearance in Virtua Fighter 6 is something you wouldn’t really expect. His hair’s still relatively lengthy but it’s combed down. He has a connected beard and mustache that’s not too long. Lastly, his eyesight has gotten worse since the last time we’ve saw him so he now wears glasses.
Hopefully Virtua Fighters 6's success lights a fire under Tecmo to greenlight a DOA7, too. The 3D fighting scene has been largely dormant for a while now and Tekken can only be the lone representative for so long. Plus, Tecmo need their redemption game after the hot mess that was DOA6.
I think you guys should get Mark MSX / The Electric Underground on the show to review the new Virtua Fighter game when it comes out. Guy knows his stuff and is very entertaining.
2D bloody roar im all for it. Reinventing it would be awesome. The concept and gimmick is so cool. Just to see it come back even if it’s not in 3D would be so awesome. They could do some cool stuff with the gameplay. Characters with two different move sets and play styles with the push of a button and aesthetic change is dope af
earlier this year, a trademark was filed for a new Eternal Champions game and there have been talks of a film adaptation, too. If any of these things actually happen, we'll just have to wait and see...
The best hope for Bloody Roar is that VF does extremely well, causing Konami to think they have to get in on that 3d fighting game money, and look up their inventory to see what series they have that they could use for that.
my take as fgc-tourist: heh they put the heavy particle vfx character (clive) into the heavy particle vfx fighting game (tekken 8), the inclusion of the eikons is over the top. iirc T8 does benchmark your system (at first startup to set initial settings) but it only gives you a number with no reference on what it means, so that leaves the player with an FPS overlay and maybe a replay with two Clives fighting each other as a DIY benchmark.
I think she will get like a Vega unique stage mechanic like jumping off the pole like in the early Fatal Fury games and a ton of moves unique to her like Max said
Was only made a fan recently when ultimate showdown dropped as someone too young to have played any of the older titles but I'm hype. Akira looks sick and very curious about Stella's whole deal.
Incorrect - Max. There is VF5 ver A, VF5 ver B. (also came out on the PS3) , VF5 ver C. (also came out on the Xbox 360), VF5 ver D (Pirates themes, mega bingo events, weapons costume poses and more), VF5 R , VF 5 Final Showdown, VF 5 Ultimate Showdown/Esports (also available on PS4), and now VF 5 REVO/Esports Ver 2.0. That's a total of 8 difference versions of Virtua Fighter 5, which is quite insane. The very BEST version of VF5 is VF5R. VF5 REVO/Esports is 2nd to VF5R.
I am really excited for the potential of the PC port for VF with a hopeful Nvidia partnership there, and where that might go in the competitive space. Give us optimized PC versions of FGs! And do the GBVSR F2P option too!
The people who are saying ff15 was well received didnt see its launch, alot of people were disappointed i feel like people only really came around after the royal edition with all the dlc and the character switching was implemented.
I had the same issue as Max with the VF5 beta. The game would constantly match me with people that couldn't run the game at a stable 60fps and it completely destroys the netcode. I really hope they implement a performance test/benchmark before letting you play ranked in the final product. Also with the connection setting on "Good" it would match me with people with like 200ms ping, which doesn't count as "Good" to me
The revisionist history on Noctis is wild. Many dedicated Tekken players hated Noctis for the entire cycle of Tekken 7 and it wasn't just shit like "He should have been in SC!" or "he should be Tifa!". Tekken players generally HATED his gameplay. Most people who enjoyed him back then just seemed to want to use a cheap character with "rule breaking" moves or weren't really that into Tekken and liked how easy he was to pick up from that perspective.
But thats the thing since it happened in 7 dont freak out when it happens in 8 its obvious having a FF guest character is their plan in tekken and its not going to destroy tekken.
It's not revisionist, that was people whining about his shit being good because they lost to him. He was mid asf and it was only in the final season where he was an alright character. It just exposed people to being whiff punished or refusing to learn his weaknesses. "Tekken players" hated every guest character if we want to be real here, Noctis was the highest selling character for a reason and it's not because everyone hated him.
In regards to VF, I think due to RGG Studios making the game why cant Kiryu be a pleasant day 1 surprise? I hope that Sega goes all out with utilizing their ips in customization and elsewhere. I would love to fight against someone while listening to Dreamer by Yuzo Koshiro in VF. How about Genghis Bahn, Axel Stone or Shiva, and Mr. Dynamite? Heck I think it would be hilarious to put Tifa in VF after the Tekken debacle. Just have her break up a fight in her bar and there you go. While at it I think a Tekken character is likely and why not a DOA character? Really hoping that VF will be given a fair chance if Sega delivers, and that it can spark a 3d fighter renaissance.
my voice gave out when the VF logo splashed on screen I screamed so hard. It's awesome how phenomenal the game looks already and I'm SO glad they actually had the balls to slightly age up and change the design of their characters.
Didn't the devs say the new VF is a "soft reboot"? So Stella probably really just is Sarah renamed. And Akira probably isn't really older but just different.
That reminds me of Cameron Phillips, from the T2 spin-off The Sarah Conor Chronicles. An infiltration terminator that gains sentience and helps defend John and Sarah.
Anyone who says VF has a story buried somewhere should watch the Anime series and/or play VF Animation on Game Gear (which is based on the Anime). This little Handheld game has an effin' story mode.
9:06 Max s absolutely roght about FF15. The OG came out as a broken, bland mess so it was panned something terrible by fans. Never got to play Royal but, based on what Max said, it must have done some Cyberpunk levels of revamp.
Yeah, I can tell you as someone that has played FFXV both at launch and with the Royal Edition, the revamp did the game SO many favors. It expanded the quality and quantity of sidequests and minigames, it fixed most of the issues with the battle camera, it included the extra DLC chapters so you'd get the full story (which in turn made the story feel way more impactful and complete), and you actually got to switch party members in combat. There is literally no reason to play any version of FFXV other than Royal Edition unless for historical reasons or you're just a masochist.
I played FFXV on release and i think i quit around half of it because it was just bad and didn’t enjoy any of it until that point either. Then i bought the royal edition because i wanted to give it a second chance and i barely could stop playing it. It’s that much better, not even comparable to the mess that was released first
I never played FF XV Royal, i bought it on release night and it’s my favorite Final Fantasy game ever. I had been waiting for it since it was FF Versus 13
A big problem also that FF15 had at launch people dont often mention is that they left a lot of character backstory and exposition in the Kingsglaive movie and the short anime tie-in that nobody watched. I enjoyed the vanilla version for what it was, it was fun gameplay wise and I enjoyed the party banter in and out of combat. Your mileage will vary heavily depending how into it you are, though I've yet to play the Royal edition that's sitting in my steam library, I do wish they were able to finish those cancelled dlc episodes.
Though I understand that Noctis sold well and helped to invigorate Tekken 7, it doesn't negate the argument that he and Clive aren't the best fit for the franchise. And come on, if the argument is based on the character's/game's popularity or amount of money they would make, I have to imagine that Tifa would definitely do WAY better than Clive.
Yeah that never made much sense to me. Obviously Tifa would sell better if its about sales. They wanted to promote FF16 better so they made this deal in 2022. That makes sense but when it comes to talking about sales idk if we can compare the impact of the first FF character being in tekken to Clive lol. Entirely different eras in what we came to expect from guest characters.
Sarah's daughter, to me, just sounds wild, especially dressing as how her mother dressed being under J6 control 😅 I still believe it could be just a reboot of the series and that "Stella" is supposedly Sarah but brainwashed or maybe she's a clone?
ill always want Kiryu in Tekken but if the only option was for sega to not want to allow someone else to use Kiryu except themselves im still okay with that. VF5 has awesome grabs based on proximity of the environment and that just screams Kiryu Heat moves.
Tekken 8 having a Heat mechanic and NOT having ANY Yakuza/LAD rep when RGG games have had a Heat mechanic for 20 years is such a HUGE missed opportunity Glad we’ll highly likely get a VF rep in the next season or two, but it’s disappointing knowing that means definitely no Yakuza guest dlc because NO CHANCE they’d give any company the guest slots for TWO different seasons/years Hurts even further when Harada acknowledged that Kiryu/Yakuza was the most popular demanded DLC/guest during Tekken 7
I agree with Max that Stella is dural. Actually I don't think of her as dural, but of Sarahs Mother. I also think VF6 is in the past. Before Sarahs Mother was dural.
At least Noctis fit aesthetically since he was from a game with a modern setting. Clive's fantasy outfit looks way more out of place. But his stage is cool enough that I'll forgive it.
48:55 want to note that the devs themselves said the game was ready for a while. but they delayed it a year or so (we got luke in SFV within that time frame) to fine tune it more. so i dont think its fair to compare models of new characters in these season to on-release ones. they had time to cook. and considering they need to get a lot of this stuff done within a time frame, the devs making the scenes we are seeing probably where given a model that was "good enough". so they have something to work with. stuff is def getting slightly changed/adjusted between that and release.
Idk if he would fit there with his clone jutusu move, also he is very stabby with his demonfire dagger, they would have to choose either thug or breaker style for him, don't see them giving him slugger style or mad dog style.
34:50 Max is wrong in that statement, i've seen many VF fans saying that they don't want a new game to change in any way, some straight up saying that they just want it to be VF5 again. Is very disappointing to see them think that way.
I want Hugo from bloody roar in Tekken 8 I think the beast gauge works perfect for Bloody Roar and a lot of Hugo’s moves are already Mishima coded if you really look at his moves.
I''d be curious to see how that could turn out. Goh isn't a real big striker and doesn't have a ton of strings. Goh definitely has the tekken look, and is a assassin for J6..
I like these characters but this would never happen, such a terrible idea LMAO the average person will see those two next to these legacy franchises and just go WHO??? it has to and will be a character that is box art worthy
I'd like to see (Lan Di from shenmue)come back as the personal body guard to assist with ( Lei fei), and be the successor to lau chan, and his Koen-ken style before he dies from his illness.. Lau still fights in the tournament but he's pushed up in wheel chair pre fight by Lan Di only to take some temporary Medication to allow him to fight full strength. Sega gotta use some of these shenmue, and yakuza charscters thats for sure!
Don't think konami has made a bloody roar pachinko so i think matts right bout them forgetting. hopefully sega and capcom inspires other jp game companies to revive old ip
The issue with Conan is the stiffness. I have not seen a lot of Conan movies but i would be SHOCKED if he was that stiff in the movies as well. Where is the mobility! I expected command dash, the command run, the leaping slashes and lunges.
I remember people liking FF15 and seeing so many positives tweets, screenshots and gameplay about it back then to the point I almost brought it and I'm not a FF fan at all. Seems it's become thought of more negatively since though. Whereas 16 I honestly had no idea that came out, maybe it's mixed in my brain with the 7 remake/remaster stuff?
Yeah Max was a bit off with that FF15 take… is 15 not liked as much in the time that has passed? Obviously. But was it as hated upon release? I wouldn’t say so. Disappointing yeah but hated? Ehh
Virtua Fighter is my favorite fighting game series so I'm over the moon about the possibilities for the new game. I love the look and feel of the aesthetic (what little we've seen) and loved the (very) brief gameplay snippet. The one thing I really, REALLY hope they don't implement is any sort of meter or super move mechanic. Aside from the fact that VF prides itself on a certain degree of realism, supers would completely change the nature of the gameplay loop, which would be a terrible idea. I can't wait to see more.
Max I love you but by your logic Tekken 8 is the same as 7. A old game with a minor update. Both Rising and Tekken 8 made drastic changes to make both play and feel different. I would get it if Rising was just a balance patch. But they added new battle mechanics which made the game drastically different to play, rollback, a lot more online interactivity, a fall guys mode, etc. Same with Tekken 8. Minus the fall guys mode. Rising has done more than enough to be considered a new game.
What I love about Clive is the passion the devs had about creating his character on both the Tekken and FF16 teams. The idea that both Jin and Clive are breaking free from their fate and creating their own path is so inspirational. As someone who's 24 and who missed out on college due to covid, this really hit me and got me inspired to not just play the games, but to improve my own situation.
Best of luck to you as you create your path!
😂😂😂 bruh you don't even sound like a correct fanboy 🤦🏿♂️
May the gods bless you in 2025 with prosperity and luck ❤
Akira's new look is basically one of Donny Yen's films, looks cool AF.
Maybe Ip man, and that's it, most of his movies he dresses nothing like that at all.
Stella's title is actually "Bridge Between the Worlds" or something like that, but the Dural thing still fits
Hello there fellow gamers. Konami actualy had 2 fighting games on the PS1 The first was a Japan release only called Lightning Legend: Daigo no Daibouken and another called Kensei Sacred Fist. The later one was kinda of a Tekken clone, even though it was a punch, kick, grab and not a block button, but a dodge button. It looked pretty cool at the time. There were so many experimentation on both 2d and 3d fighting games in that era, but many fell into obscurity unfortunately.
Great podcast you three. Keep on keeping on. Cheers everyone and happy gaming
Very excited for all the Virtua Fighter possibilities
Akira is dressed as the grandmaster in the 2013 IP Man kung fu film
Hey, nice catch!
Kudos Sir🎉
They were so hyped they didnt have a thumbnail for the video 😂
Edit: Also, i dont think Axel would fit in VF because he has flame moves. Feel like he would fit better in Tekken or Street Fighter
It confused me 😂
Well, youre too quick,, fixed now
@@ssauc I'm too quick or what? I said this at the moment the video dropped
Of course you adapt Axel so he can fit VF universe xD
@@000shad That's like saying you can add Akuma to VF XD
Theory for Stella: Sarah Bryant is a unique character and Stella is the brainwashed version of her.
Vf, i really hope it takes the crown for best fighting game again.
23:07 I actually feel like this is less for a single player mode and moreso how the actual game will be like. Ultima said this on Twitter, but I feel he described this the best in that the new VF so far has the vibes of classic action movies. And I feel with the combination of how the trailer was, Akira's design, the aesthetic of the whole game, and the stage being *organic* instead of being like older VF games where it's some random arena with simple map shapes, that may actually be what they're going for
There's a timeline somewhere out there where Tekken and Soulcalibur consolidated into the same team and we just got each game on the others off years, ala Mortal Kombat and Injustice.
This'll be the first VF game I've ever played, I'm super stoked for it!
We know damn well when Mai released SF on steam will hit above 50k players
thank you for the Shoutout max
You know what would be super hype? An episode with Kenny dood unroolie and Matt McMuscle's chatting about Mortal Kombat lore... That kinda alliance would be considered deadly
Love the new Akira design, reminds me a lot of Ip Man from The Grandmaster
Tekken 8 literally is one of the best fighting games I’ve played…yet gets more hate from it’s community really is crazy to say the least
Shout out to VFnumbers
VF has already got a comeback mechanic it's called ring outs it doesn't need rage arts or power gauges just maybe a block gauge
I know Tekken 8 has its controversy's. But it's still a fantastic game in general. Appreciate Max defending it for GOTY XD
Cracking up cause we're definitely gonna get a timeskip Jacky cause one of his customization designs in VF4 Final Tuned has him with a scruffy look with long hair.
If it happens, I'll be ready to yell "Welcome back, Tekken 4 Paul"
"If they were not cowards they would throw in eternal champions" might be my favorite quote of all time😂
Jacky’s new appearance in Virtua Fighter 6 is something you wouldn’t really expect. His hair’s still relatively lengthy but it’s combed down. He has a connected beard and mustache that’s not too long. Lastly, his eyesight has gotten worse since the last time we’ve saw him so he now wears glasses.
I see what you did there 😂
Bandai Namco with Tekken
Capcom with SF
SnK with Fatal Fury/Garou
Sega with VF
We back.
Soulcalibur is more popular for casuals and didn't did that well, the key for vf to success is the single player mode by the Yakuza dev
Hopefully Virtua Fighters 6's success lights a fire under Tecmo to greenlight a DOA7, too. The 3D fighting scene has been largely dormant for a while now and Tekken can only be the lone representative for so long. Plus, Tecmo need their redemption game after the hot mess that was DOA6.
I think you guys should get Mark MSX / The Electric Underground on the show to review the new Virtua Fighter game when it comes out. Guy knows his stuff and is very entertaining.
2D bloody roar im all for it. Reinventing it would be awesome. The concept and gimmick is so cool. Just to see it come back even if it’s not in 3D would be so awesome. They could do some cool stuff with the gameplay. Characters with two different move sets and play styles with the push of a button and aesthetic change is dope af
I really wish that Eternal Champions would return as well.
That has been years in the making if it ever returned. Been so long since the last game.
Is there any character that comes from the "modern" era in that game (aka not a time traveler).
Maybe such a character can be a guest?
earlier this year, a trademark was filed for a new Eternal Champions game
and there have been talks of a film adaptation, too.
If any of these things actually happen, we'll just have to wait and see...
Conan roasted FFXV on Clueless Gamer. The devs were in the next room.
The best hope for Bloody Roar is that VF does extremely well, causing Konami to think they have to get in on that 3d fighting game money, and look up their inventory to see what series they have that they could use for that.
my take as fgc-tourist: heh they put the heavy particle vfx character (clive) into the heavy particle vfx fighting game (tekken 8), the inclusion of the eikons is over the top.
iirc T8 does benchmark your system (at first startup to set initial settings) but it only gives you a number with no reference on what it means, so that leaves the player with an FPS overlay and maybe a replay with two Clives fighting each other as a DIY benchmark.
I think she will get like a Vega unique stage mechanic like jumping off the pole like in the early Fatal Fury games and a ton of moves unique to her like Max said
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (trademark Maximilian Dood)
Espero q o novo VF seja um jogo completinho e divertido. VF é massa!
@@binho2224 to bem curiosa pra ver o que o RGG Studio vai fazer nesse aspecto! O sonho é que façam SHENMUE SÓ QUE DE VF KKKKKKK
@@ViKatamari tb espero q invistam em conteúdo assim. Eles tem cacife pra fazer algo bem legal!
For me, the ultimate realistic clash of martial arts is "Savaki" on the Sega Saturn
Was only made a fan recently when ultimate showdown dropped as someone too young to have played any of the older titles but I'm hype. Akira looks sick and very curious about Stella's whole deal.
The triplest of the K.O.est
Incorrect - Max. There is VF5 ver A, VF5 ver B. (also came out on the PS3) , VF5 ver C. (also came out on the Xbox 360), VF5 ver D (Pirates themes, mega bingo events, weapons costume poses and more), VF5 R , VF 5 Final Showdown, VF 5 Ultimate Showdown/Esports (also available on PS4), and now VF 5 REVO/Esports Ver 2.0. That's a total of 8 difference versions of Virtua Fighter 5, which is quite insane. The very BEST version of VF5 is VF5R. VF5 REVO/Esports is 2nd to VF5R.
VIRTUA BACKKKKKKKK LETS GOOOOOO
I am really excited for the potential of the PC port for VF with a hopeful Nvidia partnership there, and where that might go in the competitive space. Give us optimized PC versions of FGs! And do the GBVSR F2P option too!
The people who are saying ff15 was well received didnt see its launch, alot of people were disappointed i feel like people only really came around after the royal edition with all the dlc and the character switching was implemented.
I had the same issue as Max with the VF5 beta. The game would constantly match me with people that couldn't run the game at a stable 60fps and it completely destroys the netcode. I really hope they implement a performance test/benchmark before letting you play ranked in the final product. Also with the connection setting on "Good" it would match me with people with like 200ms ping, which doesn't count as "Good" to me
The revisionist history on Noctis is wild. Many dedicated Tekken players hated Noctis for the entire cycle of Tekken 7 and it wasn't just shit like "He should have been in SC!" or "he should be Tifa!". Tekken players generally HATED his gameplay. Most people who enjoyed him back then just seemed to want to use a cheap character with "rule breaking" moves or weren't really that into Tekken and liked how easy he was to pick up from that perspective.
Hating a character and him being the most successful one when it comes to DLC purchase are two different things.
But thats the thing since it happened in 7 dont freak out when it happens in 8 its obvious having a FF guest character is their plan in tekken and its not going to destroy tekken.
It's not revisionist, that was people whining about his shit being good because they lost to him. He was mid asf and it was only in the final season where he was an alright character.
It just exposed people to being whiff punished or refusing to learn his weaknesses.
"Tekken players" hated every guest character if we want to be real here, Noctis was the highest selling character for a reason and it's not because everyone hated him.
Correction: Tekken players hate every character except the one they're playing.
If they aren't salty, there's a problem.
I’m sure that’s true if you think the reddit community is the whole Tekken community
In regards to VF, I think due to RGG Studios making the game why cant Kiryu be a pleasant day 1 surprise?
I hope that Sega goes all out with utilizing their ips in customization and elsewhere. I would love to fight against someone while listening to Dreamer by Yuzo Koshiro in VF.
How about Genghis Bahn, Axel Stone or Shiva, and Mr. Dynamite?
Heck I think it would be hilarious to put Tifa in VF after the Tekken debacle. Just have her break up a fight in her bar and there you go. While at it I think a Tekken character is likely and why not a DOA character?
Really hoping that VF will be given a fair chance if Sega delivers, and that it can spark a 3d fighter renaissance.
my voice gave out when the VF logo splashed on screen I screamed so hard. It's awesome how phenomenal the game looks already and I'm SO glad they actually had the balls to slightly age up and change the design of their characters.
Hinako is the sumo girl
Who else here before they patched in the thumbnail?
Didn't the devs say the new VF is a "soft reboot"? So Stella probably really just is Sarah renamed. And Akira probably isn't really older but just different.
Virtua Fighter: Mark of the Wolves
Im calling it now J6 cloned Sarah and made Stella. Like a Pinocchio Dural.
Just heard Max's theory. Yep sounds about right.
It would be a cool thing to dig for the story. If Jacky is still alive his interaction with Stella could be really interesting, pissed and conflicted.
That reminds me of Cameron Phillips, from the T2 spin-off The Sarah Conor Chronicles. An infiltration terminator that gains sentience and helps defend John and Sarah.
Stella was The Bridge between worlds
I think SF 6 Mai is the more beautiful 3-D May ever. Period.
Weren't Kage's mom a Dural at one point? If so, making Sarah Dural makes sense.
If I recall correctly Bloody Roar 1 & 2 are on one of those PS+ tiers
They were available for the PSP/PS3/psvita store but have not been added to the ps+ stuff
Anyone who says VF has a story buried somewhere should watch the Anime series and/or play VF Animation on Game Gear (which is based on the Anime). This little Handheld game has an effin' story mode.
And the countless amount of manga. That were released.
9:06 Max s absolutely roght about FF15. The OG came out as a broken, bland mess so it was panned something terrible by fans. Never got to play Royal but, based on what Max said, it must have done some Cyberpunk levels of revamp.
Yeah, I can tell you as someone that has played FFXV both at launch and with the Royal Edition, the revamp did the game SO many favors. It expanded the quality and quantity of sidequests and minigames, it fixed most of the issues with the battle camera, it included the extra DLC chapters so you'd get the full story (which in turn made the story feel way more impactful and complete), and you actually got to switch party members in combat. There is literally no reason to play any version of FFXV other than Royal Edition unless for historical reasons or you're just a masochist.
I played FFXV on release and i think i quit around half of it because it was just bad and didn’t enjoy any of it until that point either. Then i bought the royal edition because i wanted to give it a second chance and i barely could stop playing it. It’s that much better, not even comparable to the mess that was released first
I never played FF XV Royal, i bought it on release night and it’s my favorite Final Fantasy game ever. I had been waiting for it since it was FF Versus 13
A big problem also that FF15 had at launch people dont often mention is that they left a lot of character backstory and exposition in the Kingsglaive movie and the short anime tie-in that nobody watched.
I enjoyed the vanilla version for what it was, it was fun gameplay wise and I enjoyed the party banter in and out of combat. Your mileage will vary heavily depending how into it you are, though I've yet to play the Royal edition that's sitting in my steam library, I do wish they were able to finish those cancelled dlc episodes.
Damn, I have VFUS on PS5 but no cross play and rollback. Gonna have to buy REVO on Steam
That special edition is looking crazy.
you gotta introduce him as Maximilian pegasus one episode
THAT WASN'T SARAH??????
SHE HAS A DAUGHTER!!!??????
BROTHERRRRRRRRRRRRRR I NEED THIS GAAAAAAAAAME 😩
Though I understand that Noctis sold well and helped to invigorate Tekken 7, it doesn't negate the argument that he and Clive aren't the best fit for the franchise. And come on, if the argument is based on the character's/game's popularity or amount of money they would make, I have to imagine that Tifa would definitely do WAY better than Clive.
Yeah that never made much sense to me. Obviously Tifa would sell better if its about sales. They wanted to promote FF16 better so they made this deal in 2022. That makes sense but when it comes to talking about sales idk if we can compare the impact of the first FF character being in tekken to Clive lol. Entirely different eras in what we came to expect from guest characters.
Maybe they're just saving Tifa for remake part 3, either way I'm hype for clive
Just wanna say I loved FFXV on release and so did many of my friends
Ditto 🙋🏾
Sarah's daughter, to me, just sounds wild, especially dressing as how her mother dressed being under J6 control 😅 I still believe it could be just a reboot of the series and that "Stella" is supposedly Sarah but brainwashed or maybe she's a clone?
I don't see Akira much older so i doubt Stella is Sarah daughter. I think more about a brainwhashed Sarah or clone.
Im predicting with her being a dural AI unit modeled after sarah, that becomes aware, and goes rogue.
@majortom331 I'm starting to think this too
ill always want Kiryu in Tekken but if the only option was for sega to not want to allow someone else to use Kiryu except themselves im still okay with that. VF5 has awesome grabs based on proximity of the environment and that just screams Kiryu Heat moves.
Tekken 8 having a Heat mechanic and NOT having ANY Yakuza/LAD rep when RGG games have had a Heat mechanic for 20 years is such a HUGE missed opportunity
Glad we’ll highly likely get a VF rep in the next season or two, but it’s disappointing knowing that means definitely no Yakuza guest dlc because NO CHANCE they’d give any company the guest slots for TWO different seasons/years
Hurts even further when Harada acknowledged that Kiryu/Yakuza was the most popular demanded DLC/guest during Tekken 7
I agree with Max that Stella is dural. Actually I don't think of her as dural, but of Sarahs Mother. I also think VF6 is in the past. Before Sarahs Mother was dural.
Oh yea, DOA, I can see Kasumi or Ryu Hyabusa being a guest character in VF6.
lol Max salty they picked granblue
Max is *cranky* this episode, can't wait for MvC to finish up so he can sleep 😂
Fighters Megamix!
How about SEGA gives us Mfkn Lan Di in VF6! Stop playing with us SEGA. GIVE US A DOPE VILLIAN!
"Konami doesn't having a fighting game franchise!"
Ahem
TMNT Tournament Fighters
Lol I thought the same thing
Yugo for T8
At least Noctis fit aesthetically since he was from a game with a modern setting. Clive's fantasy outfit looks way more out of place. But his stage is cool enough that I'll forgive it.
48:55 want to note that the devs themselves said the game was ready for a while. but they delayed it a year or so (we got luke in SFV within that time frame) to fine tune it more. so i dont think its fair to compare models of new characters in these season to on-release ones. they had time to cook.
and considering they need to get a lot of this stuff done within a time frame, the devs making the scenes we are seeing probably where given a model that was "good enough". so they have something to work with. stuff is def getting slightly changed/adjusted between that and release.
Majima for VF plsssss
Idk if he would fit there with his clone jutusu move, also he is very stabby with his demonfire dagger, they would have to choose either thug or breaker style for him, don't see them giving him slugger style or mad dog style.
34:50 Max is wrong in that statement, i've seen many VF fans saying that they don't want a new game to change in any way, some straight up saying that they just want it to be VF5 again. Is very disappointing to see them think that way.
I saw the opposite, especially on the jp side of things, ppl are hyped asf for everything VF related.
I’ve noticed this sentiment with 3d fighting game fans in general
@@j.i.nthenobody54 Yeah, i've noticed that too. It can get pretty frustrating to talk about fighting game mechanics with them.
Put Shadow The Hedgehog in your face in VF single player lmao
I want Hugo from bloody roar in Tekken 8 I think the beast gauge works perfect for Bloody Roar and a lot of Hugo’s moves are already Mishima coded if you really look at his moves.
Goh from VF as a guest in Tekken
Lidia from Tekken as a guest in VF
I''d be curious to see how that could turn out. Goh isn't a real big striker and doesn't have a ton of strings. Goh definitely has the tekken look, and is a assassin for J6..
I like these characters but this would never happen, such a terrible idea LMAO
the average person will see those two next to these legacy franchises and just go WHO???
it has to and will be a character that is box art worthy
Justin let's not praise connections until the game is released lol
I'd like to see (Lan Di from shenmue)come back as the personal body guard to assist with ( Lei fei), and be the successor to lau chan, and his Koen-ken style before he dies from his illness.. Lau still fights in the tournament but he's pushed up in wheel chair pre fight by Lan Di only to take some temporary Medication to allow him to fight full strength. Sega gotta use some of these shenmue, and yakuza charscters thats for sure!
Don't think konami has made a bloody roar pachinko so i think matts right bout them forgetting. hopefully sega and capcom inspires other jp game companies to revive old ip
1:21:20 but does the average player even know Terry got better?
Clive is so cool that I uninstalled Tekken and preordered VF5 REVO
It would be cool if it was Jacky's daughter and she just takes after Sarah more
Joel perez vs Akira Yuki
The issue with Conan is the stiffness. I have not seen a lot of Conan movies but i would be SHOCKED if he was that stiff in the movies as well. Where is the mobility! I expected command dash, the command run, the leaping slashes and lunges.
And no one remembers Virtua Quest.
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Yep. Checked out on MK1. They finally did enough to kill my interest in the franchise moving forward
i don think the game awards has enough money for ronaldo
I remember people liking FF15 and seeing so many positives tweets, screenshots and gameplay about it back then to the point I almost brought it and I'm not a FF fan at all. Seems it's become thought of more negatively since though. Whereas 16 I honestly had no idea that came out, maybe it's mixed in my brain with the 7 remake/remaster stuff?
Yeah Max was a bit off with that FF15 take… is 15 not liked as much in the time that has passed? Obviously. But was it as hated upon release? I wouldn’t say so. Disappointing yeah but hated? Ehh
Yeah I honestly don't know wtf Max is talking about
Justin is thinking of Krull lol
This new Akira design reminds me of The Beast on the last fight of Kung Fu Hustle and I LOVE IT
I think there is one 5 too many in the timestamps lol
Virtua Fighter is my favorite fighting game series so I'm over the moon about the possibilities for the new game. I love the look and feel of the aesthetic (what little we've seen) and loved the (very) brief gameplay snippet.
The one thing I really, REALLY hope they don't implement is any sort of meter or super move mechanic. Aside from the fact that VF prides itself on a certain degree of realism, supers would completely change the nature of the gameplay loop, which would be a terrible idea.
I can't wait to see more.
I thought Dural was Kage's mom?
Great day for a new Triple K.O. Podcast!
Sega need to put in Shadow the Hedgehog and announce a new Sonic The Fighters
If not Kiryu I want Yagami from Judgment to be a guest in VF6.
Max I love you but by your logic Tekken 8 is the same as 7. A old game with a minor update. Both Rising and Tekken 8 made drastic changes to make both play and feel different. I would get it if Rising was just a balance patch. But they added new battle mechanics which made the game drastically different to play, rollback, a lot more online interactivity, a fall guys mode, etc. Same with Tekken 8. Minus the fall guys mode. Rising has done more than enough to be considered a new game.