DJI O3 vs Go Pro Hero 9 and RunCam 5. Is O3 going to replace your GoPro?!

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  • Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2024

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  • @xjet
    @xjet 2 года назад +5

    I forgot to say: _"Analog for the win"_ :-D

  • @TheTomJon
    @TheTomJon 2 года назад +42

    Comparing cameras without locking exposure settings is "doing science without controls in place".... Love your info sharing but this is a pretty rough one man.

    • @StR8KiLLA_FPV
      @StR8KiLLA_FPV 2 года назад +5

      Its almost as if he hates the 03 dji system lol... after flying it personally I can tell you 1000% it looks much better then walksnail and dji v1..

    • @dreswan1
      @dreswan1 2 года назад +1

      @@StR8KiLLA_FPV much better?

    • @StR8KiLLA_FPV
      @StR8KiLLA_FPV 2 года назад +3

      @@dreswan1 yes much much better then v1 going from one system to the next was the equivalent imo to when I first went from analog to digi, the clarity was amazing, the detail, the colors, the brightness popping off the oled screens. It honestly blew me away I've already pre ordered a few units.

    • @definingslawek4731
      @definingslawek4731 Год назад

      @@StR8KiLLA_FPV Is it true it has more latency? He claimed it has more latency than dji vista/ air unit v1

    • @StR8KiLLA_FPV
      @StR8KiLLA_FPV Год назад +1

      @@definingslawek4731 maybe on paper but the extra latency is NOT noticeable in flight. It's maybe 4ms more.

  • @xjet
    @xjet 2 года назад +5

    It would be interesting to see if you can set up the camera (exposure etc) for the best live feed and then fix up the onboard recording with some suitable color grading. ND Filters and motion blur are going to be the problem though... you can't fake that very well.

    • @cobynweston8124
      @cobynweston8124 2 года назад

      The O3 camera is compatible with the ND filters for the Avata. Yes you wont be able to lock the shutter speed but you'll be able to get the auto exposure in the right range

    • @xjet
      @xjet 2 года назад +1

      @@cobynweston8124 The problem is that you don't really want motion-blur in your live-video feed. It can obscure small details that are important when you're flying close proximity or at speed. For example, it's much harder to judge exactly how high you're flying (at low level) if you've got a lot of motion-blur. If such things aren't important then no problem but, as Chris so correctly states, this probably isn't the best option for proximity or fast flying anyway.

    • @cobynweston8124
      @cobynweston8124 2 года назад +1

      @@xjet yeah I suppose it just depends on what type of flying you’re doing

  • @aphinion
    @aphinion 2 года назад +5

    For the GoPro I highly suggest an ND-Filter, Flat Color and a fixed exposure at 180°, i.e. 1/60 at 30fps. If it is overexposed and has to pull detail back from a bright image, you get this kind of mushy oversaturated sometimes overblown look with pumping auto-exposure that you just see here in this image. I bet with the right settings the O3 will loose even to a Hero 9 - in your comparison it dealt a lot better with high exposure though. (the Mini 2 does as well - somehow the Hero9 really has a weak spot in bright light. This was quite a hard learning curve for me in the sunny swiss mountains, too :)

  • @victor_glekler
    @victor_glekler 2 года назад +4

    on some pause points O3 looks more detailed than Hero 9. There is a sharp image on O3 and blurry one on hero9

  • @halfHz
    @halfHz 2 года назад +6

    It would be good if you would scientifically test the effect of latency on flight performance. People’s visual reaction time at best is 180 milliseconds. It is hard to imagine that reducing latency below 40 milliseconds will make a difference in a pilots performance.

  • @tomaszboril
    @tomaszboril 2 года назад +7

    One really good reason for the o3 is

  • @yuriy77
    @yuriy77 2 года назад +3

    Well I'd say comparison between gopro9 and O3 wasnt fair.
    First - you can use NDs on boths cameras. But the biggest issue I think is running GoPro at 30p and DJI O3 at 60p. There's 2x more frames on the O3 unit, that's why I think some shadow details were mushy when comparing them side by side. Fair comparison would be to run them at same frame rates and resolutions.

    • @ChrisRosser
      @ChrisRosser  2 года назад +1

      I understand the desire to want to set the framerate the same on both. However, that takes away the key advantage for the GoPro which is that it doesn't have to run at the same framerate as your FPV camera. 4k30 is better for motion blur and image quality.

    • @yuriy77
      @yuriy77 2 года назад +2

      @@ChrisRosser for quality yes, more bitrate for each frame. But motion blur is only affected by shutter speed, just follow 180° shutter angle, or less.

  • @CB-kd3dn
    @CB-kd3dn 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for the comparison! The O3 camera unit did pretty well in this test! I like the resolution, the range and the overall smoothness of the shots! And most of all, the fact that the camera is designed specifically for the FPV system is a big plus! A great combination of functionality and high performance!

  • @bartkupp6351
    @bartkupp6351 2 года назад +2

    The quality of the videos from the O3 FPV air unit really stood out in this comparison! I'm really excited to try the FVP system and finally experience the O3 transmission on setup drones!

  • @b3owu1f
    @b3owu1f 2 года назад +4

    Hey.. great comparison Chris. Just a heads up.. your mic gain must be low.. I turned up to hear you.. then watched another video (Bardwell's 03 review) and it blew me out of my seat it was so much louder haha. So.. can I mount the 03 on the Cine70 as is? Or do I need a new camera mount for it? I ordered two of those air units.. one for the AOScine70 I have.

    • @le_tranq
      @le_tranq 2 года назад +1

      Might not be the gain but the overall video loudness. Bardwell probably has it optimised to be close as possible to the 14LUFS YT standard. If it's too loud YT will turn it down and clip your audio, if it's too soft YT won't turn it up.

  • @RPGWoodworking
    @RPGWoodworking 2 года назад +2

    i can see this being a great option for fixed wing pilots who fly fpv and don't want to add any extra weight or any goggle osd info in their footage.

  • @MrPashee
    @MrPashee 2 года назад +5

    LOL. Why are you so hate the GoPro? Add MORE contrast to the image:)))) Have you ever heard about ProTune and Flat profile?

    • @ChrisRosser
      @ChrisRosser  2 года назад

      I think default colour profiles are a fair comparison. There are no adjustments to any of the footage in post.

    • @MrPashee
      @MrPashee 2 года назад +2

      @@ChrisRosser It's like to compare 1200mW analog vs. 25mW Walksnail because "it's was set to default":) To make honest comparison push them to the limits! Set flattest profile and check dynamic range. Because in reality the camera of Avata as well as new O³ is far behind even Gopro6. But still it have amazing image for so tiny FPV camera and its in-camera video quality far beyond other competitors!

    • @bugsy742
      @bugsy742 2 года назад

      @@MrPashee 🤝🤝🤝

  • @Justinjaro
    @Justinjaro 2 года назад +5

    Dude this is a good video but you should've matched the exposure better on the GoPro test... The GoPro shot isn't more vibrant... Also wish you did a test with the flat picture styles and NO/Low sharpening on the cameras for a cinematic use comparison.

  • @itsamemario720
    @itsamemario720 2 года назад +3

    O3 vs. Runcam 5 -> O3 is definitely better
    O3 vs. GP9 -> The difference in quality does not justify the additional weight and price in most cases. Plus, I've never heard about a GoPro being able to fly. :)
    All in all, short answer is yes the O3 is going to replace your GoPro but I guess after a year or so. But I think at this point other companies should be panicking because they're gonna be obsolete soon.

    • @erikvf7
      @erikvf7 2 года назад

      Totally agree!!

  • @android131619
    @android131619 2 года назад +2

    Nice videos,is the Aos cine35 is going to be available with Iflight or Banggood? Im waiting for it since u talked about it I have the all the parts to build it.

  • @onemanmob6756
    @onemanmob6756 2 года назад +1

    No word on weight?
    Also, when comparing O3 with GoPro - how about the option of having the O3 as a dedicated DVR, with FPV dealt with by either another O3 or the old Air Unit, or even analog? When used as a separate (dedicated) VCR, the O3 would not suffer from the shortages like higher latency, no ND filters etc. while still retaining its advantages over GoPro i.e. lower weight and being cheaper.

  • @icp-trek
    @icp-trek 2 года назад +4

    Great information. Bit the O3 still can't replace a gopro, depending on your video requirements. Price wise the O3 isn't a competitor to the original DJI FPV system unless it provides exceptionally greater RF performance and range. Still happy to see this small market developing.

    • @botchitong
      @botchitong 2 года назад

      they say O3 is 2W.. the original AU or dji fpv was 1.4W max. so range is increased on power output alone... problem is the heat.... originaldobo review mentioned it was hot while trying to find it for a few minutes after a crash...

  • @deice3
    @deice3 2 года назад +2

    The O3 seems to be a solid replacement for an action camera.
    Only downside is, that your filming settings are your FPV view settings (including fps affecting latency, colors, exposure etc). This could even be an upside if you're trying to do cinematic shots, as what you see is what you get. But definite downside if you're trying to fly crazy freestyle but want your footage to have more cinematic settings

    • @MrPashee
      @MrPashee 2 года назад +4

      Sometimes it's downside but for cinematic video you have to use manual settings all the time. So it's very good to see real recorded image while shooting. Many times I set my GoPro or RunCam settings and only at home I realised that light conditions have changed during the flight and all my footage become overexposed :(

  • @motionsic
    @motionsic 2 года назад +1

    Does O3 Air Unit have head-tracking signal out for driving pan & tilt gimbal?

  • @pitudefe
    @pitudefe 2 года назад +1

    Hi chris !! Does the new Air unit O3 fit in your AOS 5" V2 and AOS cine 80. Thanks !

  • @mhe0815
    @mhe0815 Год назад +1

    Fly the O3 in D-Cinelike, the flatter colors hell with visibility during flying and the captured footage can be made better with color grading than it normally would be anyway.

  • @youtubejack
    @youtubejack 2 года назад +1

    Will you be doing a build video with one of the 5 inch frames ? With 03 unit

  • @lemonsquareFPV
    @lemonsquareFPV 2 года назад +2

    Good job Mr.Rosser! Thank you!
    I was super excited for the system but unfortunately I’m super latency sensitive 😢
    Avata ND filters fit, do they not…

  • @a1ac99
    @a1ac99 Год назад +1

    In rancam 5 orange there is a giroflow stabilization after the update

  • @cheechfpv
    @cheechfpv 2 года назад +1

    How does it compare to a hero 8? The most popular FPV action camera.

  • @VulpeculaJoy
    @VulpeculaJoy Год назад

    I'd really love to see a sub 250g 2.5/3'' cinewhoop that only uses the O3 Air Unit.
    No naked Gopro or anything, just the O3, an AIO FC, expressLRS rx, RCinPower motors, prop guards, a stiff but lightweight frame and as much mass put into the battery as possible so that you get maximum flight time. As a bonus feature the prop guards could be swapped out for a pair of floats and a sealable case around the electrical components made from light weight PLA.
    That would be my dream build for 2023.

  • @spicer3595
    @spicer3595 2 года назад +2

    Incredible footage from the O3 air unit! I think it's a great innovation from DJI!

  • @cheechfpv
    @cheechfpv 2 года назад +2

    GoPro all day! Plus it has good quality sound.

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations 2 года назад

    Thanks for the comparison, Chris! 😊
    Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

  • @Pukkaras
    @Pukkaras 2 года назад +2

    1) Runcam 5 can record in 2.7k and also 4K , i do not understand why you did the comparison using 1440p .
    2) it seems , that at gopro you set specific shutter speed , but at dji you used auto shutter.
    How much does it cost to shoot a laudatory comparison review? )))

  • @KOrnhOliO1
    @KOrnhOliO1 2 года назад +1

    I'm wondering whether the Goggles 2 have the same parameters we can adjust in the goggles, for saturation, contrast, brightness, etc.? If they do, I wouldn't think those effect the 4K recording image quality, do they? Because if they don't, we could adjust the Goggles 2 to fly into those shadows by raising the brightness, and maybe a small amount of contrast for balance. That way we could eliminate the issue about flying aggressive freestyle, and close to objects in the shadows, with brightening up the Googles 2 image. 🤔
    JB mentioned two things in his video. One, they do have a flat color profile adjustment. Two, they do have ND filters available for the 03 Air Unit.

    • @monolith2001
      @monolith2001 2 года назад +1

      You might be able to tweak colors on the goggles but you can't put back shadow highlights that were lost by the FPV camera's settings that are sent to the goggles. A black hole will simply turn into a gray hole.

  • @FpvSage
    @FpvSage Год назад

    I think the o3 is good for indoor real estate. Outside the GoPro looks a good deal better in most videos I’ve seen. What do you think?

  • @dreyflyshisdroneandhasfunm2315
    @dreyflyshisdroneandhasfunm2315 2 года назад +1

    What is the latency in the signal strength telemetry? Does it recover if it loses signal or do you need to reboot like with the original system?

  • @silverwing3359
    @silverwing3359 2 года назад +2

    One quick question.... How is the comparison between the O3 and the runcam 5 even remotely fair if the runcam is only running at 1440 and the DJI is running in 4k?

    • @ChrisRosser
      @ChrisRosser  2 года назад

      1440p on the RunCam 5 gives the widest FOV and is the recommended setting for FPV. 4k30 crops more of the sensor and isn't as good IMO.

    • @silverwing3359
      @silverwing3359 2 года назад +1

      @@ChrisRosser Thank you so much for the response! So the comparison is more for the FOV than it is for the resolution?

  • @tk-maker
    @tk-maker 2 года назад +3

    Nope, one o3 for one drone vs one gopro for many drone

  • @changeagent228
    @changeagent228 2 года назад +2

    Feels like DJI have cheaped out a bit. They should have made it an improvement over last generation in all areas. The latency is so important and I had hoped they would have taken care of that. And up to 60ms with the 4K stabilised DVR running is ridiculous. On the OG air unit it added 3ms to run the DVR although I never ran mine because of the slow SD card error they never fixed. So really the question is if it's worth getting the goggles for OLED enhancing my gen1 drones and 1080p DVR and live feed on some.

    • @changeagent228
      @changeagent228 2 года назад +1

      Also no live audio

    • @ZippyFPV
      @ZippyFPV 2 года назад +2

      Goggle backwards compatibility status is still pending. I wouldn't jump in until that happens.

    • @changeagent228
      @changeagent228 2 года назад +1

      @@ZippyFPV Yes I wonder how 120hz into 100hz will translate. If it's not completely smooth that's a deal breaker.

  • @teknoy5417
    @teknoy5417 Год назад

    O3 vs hero 6, which is better for indoor?

  • @jayzzz1234
    @jayzzz1234 2 года назад +1

    Hi Chris another channel is saying the 03 unit doesn't bind to goggles v2 has anyone else actually tried it.

  • @baggszilla
    @baggszilla 2 года назад

    Thanks Chris! Isn't the latency lower when on board recording using the V2 Goggles? Cheers!

  • @le_tranq
    @le_tranq 2 года назад +5

    No way, I can't believe that I thought for sure I knew the GP9, but the O3 looked far better to my eyes, DR also looked better.

    • @ChrisRosser
      @ChrisRosser  2 года назад

      Ordinarily I would run an ND filter on the GoPro and I think that would help with the exposure.

    • @KOrnhOliO1
      @KOrnhOliO1 2 года назад

      I agree! I did a bunch of stops and starts and the image on the right, the 03 air unit, was sharper and clearer each time. Try it, it's a darker image, which matters little because that can easily be adjusted with software, but the image is sharper and when you stop on a bridge or those apartments, they have perfect proportion, where the GoPro distorts them some.

    • @le_tranq
      @le_tranq 2 года назад +1

      @@ChrisRosser Can you record 2.7K DVR and fly in low latency 120fps mode on the v2 goggle at the same time? This isn't mentioned anywhere. And if so what is the FOV? 16:9?

  • @jefjabs
    @jefjabs 2 года назад +1

    props in view?

  • @hey9784
    @hey9784 2 года назад +1

    Latency (for precision flying) and video recording quality (for cinematic or pro level shooting) are often two different requirements. I can see the O3 meeting needs maybe 90%(?) of the time, because I guess for those who need both parameters mentioned you'll be requiring more specialized equipment of builds. I for one am not that highly particular of latency but rather reliability and cost which is why having the O3 Air Unit on its own sans action cam in my builds would be the higher priority.

    • @ChrisRosser
      @ChrisRosser  2 года назад

      I think many pilots will agree with you. At 100fps the latency is still pretty good and may improve with time as well.

  • @aviatoFPV
    @aviatoFPV 2 года назад +1

    Which frames have the props out of view with the O3 system? I'm looking at the 3.5 and the LR5 mainly.

    • @ChrisRosser
      @ChrisRosser  2 года назад +2

      They all do apart from the UL5.

    • @aviatoFPV
      @aviatoFPV 2 года назад +1

      @@ChrisRosser Do you have the LR5 O3 frame somewhere in stock in Europe? The CNCdrones website seems to be in Canada and I expect a big
      customs fee on top of the shipping cost making it a bit too expensive.

  • @gladperson116
    @gladperson116 Год назад

    Im curious what gopro o3 unit compairs to is it like a gopro5 or even a 4 and if its better than which it looks most similar to

  • @gloriousquads
    @gloriousquads 2 года назад +2

    Nice comparison Chris! I was really afraid of that at first test the right one will be revealed as the O3 😁😁 I hope you reach good sales with your o3 frames

  • @asierfilms
    @asierfilms 2 года назад +1

    thanks, but better dynamic range and colors in Gopro 11 mini...

  • @kevinkuu7096
    @kevinkuu7096 2 года назад +1

    very thorough analysis

  • @Shauny_D
    @Shauny_D Год назад

    Was 03 in 10bit? Sorry if you mentioned that I missed it if you did.

  • @BBFPV
    @BBFPV 2 года назад

    U can add motion blur in post processing with Davinci for free.
    But with the best will in the world I can't understand what you think is so great about a blurred picture.

  • @fpvshenanigans
    @fpvshenanigans 2 года назад +3

    It looks interesting. For my freestyle flying i would definitely ditch my GoPro. Like someone said it would be interesting to see how much things can be tweaked in the camera settings exp, shutter speed etc

  • @AndroSpud
    @AndroSpud 2 года назад

    Is rocksteady live in your goggles or is it only available in post production?

    • @ChrisRosser
      @ChrisRosser  2 года назад

      I think it's only in the onboard recording. But don't quote me on that!

  • @pacificnorthwestpilots6050
    @pacificnorthwestpilots6050 2 года назад +1

    I was at the point in the video where I was wondering if the 03 would fit your frame.....then you showed the new AOS 03 version.. Perfect timing!!
    Does the cam fit in your V1 AOS5?

    • @dangerous8333
      @dangerous8333 2 года назад +1

      He's friends with Joshua and other people that got this air unit a month ago so he had a month to make the frame. Maybe he got one himself too I don't know.

  • @DriftaholiC
    @DriftaholiC 2 года назад +1

    I don't think it's fair to compare 4k30 to 4k60 as the bitrate is spit among the frames so individual frames at 60fps will look worse then 30fps. Now that we don't need to carry a gopro why not use a race frame. Can we fit 03 into your 5r?

    • @ChrisRosser
      @ChrisRosser  2 года назад

      Most pilots prefer 4k30 for image quality and motion blur so those are the settings to run on the GoPro, no need to compromise. With O3 you have to compromise on framerate so I chose 60fps as the best compromise between latency and image quality.

    • @yuriy77
      @yuriy77 2 года назад

      @@ChrisRosser motion blur in the video only depends on shutter speed of the camera. 4k30, 4k60 don't affect the motion blur. 4k30 @60 shutter speed, and 4k60 @120 shutter speed will have same amount of motion blur

    • @ChrisRosser
      @ChrisRosser  2 года назад

      @@yuriy77 I agree, if the ISO remains constant. If the camera would ideally want a shutter speed of 1/30 for correct exposure but is forced to go to 1/120 due to frame rate and increases the ISO to compensate exposure then motion blur will be affected.

  • @LuckyMoniker
    @LuckyMoniker 2 года назад

    ive heard you can use the avata ND filters on the O3 camera

    • @ChrisRosser
      @ChrisRosser  2 года назад +1

      Yes you can, I would find the motion blur introduced by an ND filter tricky for close proximity flying but abosutely fine for cinematic or long range.

  • @dronepilot260rc
    @dronepilot260rc 2 года назад

    Not a bad comparison at all. I think I’m still gonna run my Hero 10, Runcam 5 , Caddx Peanut, and Caddx Air Unit and Caddx Vista ❤ maybe one day I’ll hop on the bandwagon 😂

  • @craigsaunders3532
    @craigsaunders3532 2 года назад +1

    My question is, does the 03 system fit ok on the aos5 v2 without any problems ?

  • @londenard
    @londenard 2 года назад +3

    No.

  • @abertheham
    @abertheham 2 года назад +2

    What happens to latency when recording in 1080p? Anything?
    For me, as a casual hobbiest without any professional/commercial needs, there are diminishing returns above 1440 when it comes to everyday park flying. That’s to say nothing of the digital storage and processing requirements to efficiently manage the larger files.

  • @kmarlow1
    @kmarlow1 2 года назад

    Great video as always! Thank you!

  • @KotNaKacu
    @KotNaKacu 2 года назад +3

    I'm not defending the GoPro, but I think it had the wrong settings, the image looked worse than Runcam's. With Flat profile and -0.5EV would outperform DJI :) But anyway DJI's quality is impressive for "just" a fpv cam.

    • @ChrisRosser
      @ChrisRosser  2 года назад +3

      I think you could make both images look better by tweaking the exposure, using a flat profile and grading in post but that introduces a lot of variables (including my skill level at those things!) so I chose to use default settings for both cameras.

  • @andyhoughtaling6319
    @andyhoughtaling6319 Год назад

    It literally replaced my hero 11, and I couldn't be happier.

  • @cobynweston8124
    @cobynweston8124 2 года назад +1

    I've been looking at building an AOS 3.5 V2 and the O3 has sold me. I'll be putting one in that quad so that I can get the weight under 250g and still get decent footage

  • @Jagged-RotorsFPV
    @Jagged-RotorsFPV 2 года назад

    Great comparison 👍🏻

  • @ndcapper
    @ndcapper 2 года назад

    another great video!

  • @rs3hc
    @rs3hc Год назад

    the o3 footage is at many times really washed out like its in Live feed with focus mode, mostly with parts in further distances
    Really confusing

  • @michaelburke1310
    @michaelburke1310 2 года назад

    it's 2022 and still no flight audio

  • @ChrisParayno
    @ChrisParayno 2 года назад

    For me, yes!

  • @KimboFPV
    @KimboFPV 2 года назад

    Thx Chris

  • @sly_fpv
    @sly_fpv 4 месяца назад

    The GoPro footage is over exposed, over saturated and over sharpened. The O3 lacks low light performance, but is it worth spending all that money on a GoPro and sacrificing flight time?

  • @spitfeueranna
    @spitfeueranna 2 года назад

    After futzing with it for a week, my 03 unit DID NOT WORK with my DJI V1 goggles, did NOT work with my DJI V2 goggles, did NOT WORK with my Dominator goggles, and yeah hope springs etheranlal DID NOT WORK with any of my analog goggles. I couldn't get a picture on any of them. I finally gave up and SENT IT BACK TODAY for a store credit.

  • @pooljunki1
    @pooljunki1 Год назад

    i dont think most people need a gopro