I also read somewhere about "Chaos Frame" if all 3 races (Walstanian/Wallister, Gargastan, Bacrumese) have the highest loyalty to Denim/Denam, the assassination won't happen. Instead, the scene shifts to Zenobia where Gilbert & King Tristan mentioned Lodis will prepare another invasion to Valeria then said "King Denim has no luck".
This isn't nearly as depressing as the ending I got when I played this SPOILER Lars. Him and his band were really the only decent people in this entire game of backstabbing power hungry assholes. When last you saw him, he was captured and being tortured in a dungeon. You figure you're going to rescue him like any other RPG plot. Nope. The war goes on and he's never mentioned again. Until the very end of the game when the war is over. The main character tracks him down to some shitty veterans hospital. The once noble and strong knight is now a crippled invalid who spends all day staring out the window and drooling, nobody even knowing his name or who he was. Just being forgotten and drooling all day. The main character knocks over a music box that was playing and Lars starts screaming and crying like an infant until you wind the box up again and he goes back to rocking and drooling like a baby, his mind so broken by torture that that's his whole existence now. It was like an even more depressing version of the ending to One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest, where we don't even get to see Chief smash the window and escape :( Which ending was that? This game was awesome because not only were there so many branching choices, but NONE of the choices were clear cut, and all them morally ambiguous. So many of the early choices were "Will you do this evil thing, without which the rebellion is doomed?" The early game choice of dressing up as enemy soldiers and slaughtering a town so other towns join the rebellion. That's actual shit guerilla movements pull in the real world. And you don't become a hero for refusing to do it and trying to stop it. The evil backstabbing leader falsely accuses you of the massacre and you spend the next chapter on the run being hunted and hated by everyone. Then you finally confront the evil backstabbing leader and have a chance at killing him when word comes that the neighboring country just invaded. Do you kill the murderous asshole leader and destabilize the country, or do you let him live despite what he did so that he can organize a defense? END SPOILERS Hot damn this game was even more cynical and ruthless than Game of Thrones. It's just a shame that the grinding was ATROCIOUS in this game. So many hours that needed to be spent in training mode with everyone throwing rocks at your highest level character thanks to the screwed up unbalanced way that levels and xp worked. I wanted to replay to see different paths but nuts to putting up with all that grinding again. I wish there was just a pure story mode that let you skip all the battles. And you can totally see where this would go on to be the plot outline for Final Fantasy Tactics. It was pretty much the same basic story but with most of the ruthless bits and moral ambiguity taken out.
Also you can easily replay once you finish the game to see all the possible routes with the world tarot. You keep your same levels and abilities and just go back in time to certain points in the game. However this time around all the story battles are at your level but that shouldn't make a huge difference to completing them. It literally is everything you could want if you hated the idea of needing to grind again to replay the game. Also any story scene you've witnessed can be viewed anytime from the Tidings in the Warrent Report. Hope that helps if you wanted to see the other routes or enjoy the story without needing to playthrough the game again. :)
+Mattokaiser and I also watched Lans and Warren are back in the good ending, boarding ship along with 3...no, 4 Zenobian crews. Since Deneb is also there as well. With Denim (back to his green & blue outfit), Kachua (back to her red outfit), Vice (good) seeing them off.
I hope that warrior was level 99 with the best gun in game or else there is no way a single shoot killed Denam. If we look at this on another point of view this is a serious case of "Cutscene Power to the Max" where even a level 1 peasant could probably one shoot kill a level 99 hero with the best gear in the game by backstabbing the hero with a rusty knife.
@@neildelarosa8806 All the director and artists departed. Quest is no longer. And they are not with Square anymore either. This masterpiece is a relic of the time when they shined and defined. Twenty-four years has passed. I am waiting just like you. But there are no longer... in the foreseeable future.
@@yuchsiao2 yeah.. They did use nybeth as a boss in ffxiv so they havent forgotten about tactics ogre but something tells me that if current square enix tried to write something like this it wouldn't be any good, they have a particular tone to their writing that I don't think would fit tactics ogre.
Does anyone know if the partisan says "Glory to the {faction name}" and the faction name changes based on which nation has below 30 CF? or is this ending always Walister
I just beat this game today. Why is this your favorite ending? Chaos + Chaos is probably the best one, fulfilling the promise Denam made to his father.
LOL I think the game made you cold hearted. Anyways thanks for uploading this video. There was just no way I would have seen this ending with the way I played the game
+James Sicat haha, maybe a little ;) I guess that most of the people have not seen this ending because they want precious princess Catiua in their team.
Piotr Kukliński Hehe yeah! But if you want Cressida in the chaos route you have to sacrifice Catiua and let her kill herself...Then you can make a choice as a lord (combined with other choices before), that will raise up the Galgastani chaosframe without the stupid death march...so you can keep the Warren Report "clean"... Cressida is simply great and the jewel of the chaos path!
Erdadler, you are right ;) thank you for your comment! I never had Cressida in my team so I forgot that you need Catiua dead to make it happen :) but I guess that most of the people want Catiua in the first run of the game ;) long time ago when I played the game for the first time I didn't know that Catiua can survive! It's really hard to think of the idea that you need to select proper dialogue option to not let her die. I love that game. I am so sad that it's not that popular (not many people in my country even heard about it)
Woah never saw this ending , how come I didn't saw this when in fact I finished all the routes and killed/saved Catuia in the game ? Oh well I think this ending is way too better if you ask me :)
I found out first hand when I got this ending a few nights ago that if you skip the credits you miss out on the post credit scene. It instead skips to scene after this where you see King Tristan of Xenobia talking about how Lodis has a force of 100 000 strong ready to invade Valeria. It really hammers home how bad this ending is with the death of Denam and Valeria pretty much being invaded by Lodis with no one there to unite the people of Valeria against them. I really enjoyed this ending a lot too. It was such a sombre end to Denam's story especially when they show the conversation with Prancet before he passes away. He pretty much tells Denam that it isn't about him and that he needs to save Catiua. The choices made by the player end up having a profound effect on how the story transpires. Too bad you can't get the awesome Lord class without letting Catiua die.
Never seen this ending, thank you for spending the time to upload this because I never want this to happen to my game. Haha. Still, was there a CODA after this? I mean, Denam's dead, so..
Enjoy :) this was actually my first ending. Yeah, I know it is strange but even after Denam's dead you can still play CODA ;) after this ending you also get the Tragic King title - "Brought peace to Valeria and ascended the throne, only to be brought down by an assassin on your coronation day"
CODA is after the perfect ending, Denam leaves after Catuia coronation and helps Canopus and the knights to find Warren. Lans' chapter is like a broken reality and could be anywhere in the story, though. IF you get the bad ending, you can world back but can't start the official CODA chapters.
I also read somewhere about "Chaos Frame" if all 3 races (Walstanian/Wallister, Gargastan, Bacrumese) have the highest loyalty to Denim/Denam, the assassination won't happen. Instead, the scene shifts to Zenobia where Gilbert & King Tristan mentioned Lodis will prepare another invasion to Valeria then said "King Denim has no luck".
They need to be 30 or above. I had all mine below 50, around the 40s range. I got the King Tristan ending.
"King Denam draws a fatal hand."
@@Maroxad yes 30 and above is correct.
@@jkytest1 If I remember correctly the original had a higher requirement.
@@johnnemeth2653 50+, confirmed
this ending reminds me of Franz of Austria-Hungary and event leading to world war I or first great war :(
casual : game of thrones has the best political fantasy story
me : this..
God i love this game, i already beat the original one, and now i'm playing the remake, both are amazing.
What happenned to Denam is what could have happened to Delita from FFtactics.
At least he didn't get how Alphonse has become
Honestly I think this ending fits best with the game's themes
Heh edgy
Agreed. I think this works best if you participate in the Balmamusa massacre as well.
@@ajbahus Let's be fair, as he kills a good person, he deserves to die, in reality, this loss would be worth it from start to finish
Little did the partisan know that my Denam learned Constitution IV, Fortify IV, and deflect
This the ending that I got in the PSX version but I prefer they sudden black screen instead of the "fade".
The ending makes sense. Everybody outside your party hates you in all timelines.
This isn't nearly as depressing as the ending I got when I played this
SPOILER
Lars. Him and his band were really the only decent people in this entire game of backstabbing power hungry assholes. When last you saw him, he was captured and being tortured in a dungeon. You figure you're going to rescue him like any other RPG plot.
Nope. The war goes on and he's never mentioned again. Until the very end of the game when the war is over. The main character tracks him down to some shitty veterans hospital. The once noble and strong knight is now a crippled invalid who spends all day staring out the window and drooling, nobody even knowing his name or who he was. Just being forgotten and drooling all day. The main character knocks over a music box that was playing and Lars starts screaming and crying like an infant until you wind the box up again and he goes back to rocking and drooling like a baby, his mind so broken by torture that that's his whole existence now.
It was like an even more depressing version of the ending to One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest, where we don't even get to see Chief smash the window and escape :(
Which ending was that? This game was awesome because not only were there so many branching choices, but NONE of the choices were clear cut, and all them morally ambiguous. So many of the early choices were "Will you do this evil thing, without which the rebellion is doomed?" The early game choice of dressing up as enemy soldiers and slaughtering a town so other towns join the rebellion. That's actual shit guerilla movements pull in the real world. And you don't become a hero for refusing to do it and trying to stop it. The evil backstabbing leader falsely accuses you of the massacre and you spend the next chapter on the run being hunted and hated by everyone. Then you finally confront the evil backstabbing leader and have a chance at killing him when word comes that the neighboring country just invaded. Do you kill the murderous asshole leader and destabilize the country, or do you let him live despite what he did so that he can organize a defense?
END SPOILERS
Hot damn this game was even more cynical and ruthless than Game of Thrones.
It's just a shame that the grinding was ATROCIOUS in this game. So many hours that needed to be spent in training mode with everyone throwing rocks at your highest level character thanks to the screwed up unbalanced way that levels and xp worked. I wanted to replay to see different paths but nuts to putting up with all that grinding again. I wish there was just a pure story mode that let you skip all the battles.
And you can totally see where this would go on to be the plot outline for Final Fantasy Tactics. It was pretty much the same basic story but with most of the ruthless bits and moral ambiguity taken out.
That's not an ending lol That scene with Lans is a cutscene in the main plot found in every path of the game.
Also you can easily replay once you finish the game to see all the possible routes with the world tarot. You keep your same levels and abilities and just go back in time to certain points in the game. However this time around all the story battles are at your level but that shouldn't make a huge difference to completing them. It literally is everything you could want if you hated the idea of needing to grind again to replay the game. Also any story scene you've witnessed can be viewed anytime from the Tidings in the Warrent Report. Hope that helps if you wanted to see the other routes or enjoy the story without needing to playthrough the game again. :)
+Mattokaiser seems like he played the psx version, so did I. There is no time jumping unlike psp version.
+Mattokaiser and I also watched Lans and Warren are back in the good ending, boarding ship along with 3...no, 4 Zenobian crews. Since Deneb is also there as well. With Denim (back to his green & blue outfit), Kachua (back to her red outfit), Vice (good) seeing them off.
The ending is heavily affected whether Kachua/Catiua lives or dies. If she dies, Denim/Denam has access of powerful Lord class.
I hope that warrior was level 99 with the best gun in game or else there is no way a single shoot killed Denam.
If we look at this on another point of view this is a serious case of "Cutscene Power to the Max" where even a level 1 peasant could probably one shoot kill a level 99 hero with the best gear in the game by backstabbing the hero with a rusty knife.
He was wearing a royal robe, I doubt a silk can withstand a flying bolt in a short distance.
@@junowhyarewetalkingtoeacho4215
MC got 'side step' though. I doubt the shot connect.
@@farn1991
That was when you are in a battlefield where bolts and arrows can fly at you in any moment, he definitely dont expect this one
@@junowhyarewetalkingtoeacho4215
He also has blessing stone in his backpack. Anyone can revive him.
To be fair, he has 99 of these stones@@farn1991
A masterpiece of a game...
Indeed! I wish they would continue with the story... But I guess it's impossible.
Indeed I am still waiting for a sequel or even another remake
@@neildelarosa8806 All the director and artists departed. Quest is no longer. And they are not with Square anymore either. This masterpiece is a relic of the time when they shined and defined. Twenty-four years has passed. I am waiting just like you. But there are no longer... in the foreseeable future.
@@yuchsiao2 No way.... Nooooooo
@@yuchsiao2 yeah.. They did use nybeth as a boss in ffxiv so they havent forgotten about tactics ogre but something tells me that if current square enix tried to write something like this it wouldn't be any good, they have a particular tone to their writing that I don't think would fit tactics ogre.
This one is my favorite of all Ogre Battle series. Knight of Lodis comes second.
this happens on my first playthrough, after that I delete it. And now im playing it on law route and I'm still playing it after a satisfying ending
The Slav ending
He could have resisted the gun shot with high VIT :P
Looking forward to seeing you upload the time where you save Lanselot from the Dark Knights
Does anyone know if the partisan says "Glory to the {faction name}" and the faction name changes based on which nation has below 30 CF? or is this ending always Walister
just confirmed it's always Walister
I just beat this game today. Why is this your favorite ending? Chaos + Chaos is probably the best one, fulfilling the promise Denam made to his father.
Because I had always loved the sad endings. Both for video games and movies. I guess I just don't like happy endings at all ;)
LOL I think the game made you cold hearted. Anyways thanks for uploading this video. There was just no way I would have seen this ending with the way I played the game
+James Sicat haha, maybe a little ;) I guess that most of the people have not seen this ending because they want precious princess Catiua in their team.
Piotr Kukliński Hehe yeah! But if you want Cressida in the chaos route you have to sacrifice Catiua and let her kill herself...Then you can make a choice as a lord (combined with other choices before), that will raise up the Galgastani chaosframe without the stupid death march...so you can keep the Warren Report "clean"... Cressida is simply great and the jewel of the chaos path!
Erdadler, you are right ;) thank you for your comment! I never had Cressida in my team so I forgot that you need Catiua dead to make it happen :) but I guess that most of the people want Catiua in the first run of the game ;) long time ago when I played the game for the first time I didn't know that Catiua can survive! It's really hard to think of the idea that you need to select proper dialogue option to not let her die. I love that game. I am so sad that it's not that popular (not many people in my country even heard about it)
Hahah whut the end.. After the princess die the little brother comes to join die too
Woah never saw this ending , how come I didn't saw this when in fact I finished all the routes and killed/saved Catuia in the game ? Oh well I think this ending is way too better if you ask me :)
latch . I am glad your opinion about it is the same as mine :) I don't a have clue why you never had it either :o
I found out first hand when I got this ending a few nights ago that if you skip the credits you miss out on the post credit scene. It instead skips to scene after this where you see King Tristan of Xenobia talking about how Lodis has a force of 100 000 strong ready to invade Valeria. It really hammers home how bad this ending is with the death of Denam and Valeria pretty much being invaded by Lodis with no one there to unite the people of Valeria against them.
I really enjoyed this ending a lot too. It was such a sombre end to Denam's story especially when they show the conversation with Prancet before he passes away. He pretty much tells Denam that it isn't about him and that he needs to save Catiua. The choices made by the player end up having a profound effect on how the story transpires. Too bad you can't get the awesome Lord class without letting Catiua die.
Lmao when did knights leard to use guns lmao
15th century
victoneter nice
It's a fusilier dressed as a knight in order to infiltrate the coronation
@@taroturtle Coronation...
Never seen this ending, thank you for spending the time to upload this because I never want this to happen to my game. Haha. Still, was there a CODA after this? I mean, Denam's dead, so..
Enjoy :) this was actually my first ending. Yeah, I know it is strange but even after Denam's dead you can still play CODA ;) after this ending you also get the Tragic King title - "Brought peace to Valeria and ascended the throne, only to be brought down by an assassin on your coronation day"
The events of the CODA actually take place before the ending, so it doesn't make a difference how it ends.
CODA is after the perfect ending, Denam leaves after Catuia coronation and helps Canopus and the knights to find Warren. Lans' chapter is like a broken reality and could be anywhere in the story, though. IF you get the bad ending, you can world back but can't start the official CODA chapters.
Fuck I'm glad I didn't get this ending.