I've had this bike for over 5 years and absolutely love it. Great informative channel. I think I'll probably take it in to have the throttle bodies adjusted, but will do the rest myself.
Great video I do all my own work so when it is out of warranty and feel it need working on I will replay your video out standing work Thanks Jeff from Down Under
John, So much time and effort to perform this task eh..... I have done the Throttle Body Sync on my previous bike a 1250 Suzuki Bandit and that was super easy to do, just like Carburetor balancing on other bikes and very easy to access. I have only owned my Versys for just over 8 months (1500 miles) and will leave it for now until she's out of warranty, however I will be checking and performing these tasks when the time is right. I have found the Versys a lovely bike to own but very time consuming when it comes to removing side panels/fairing sections etc. to gain access to work areas. I can see where the Labour element of the bill creeps up with the amount of time spent removing and replacing things before you've even got near what you intend to do. Thank you for sharing.
just got a versys and reading all the servicing it needs, never even heard of a throttle body sync. mind you i game from a 20yr old R6. your video is simply awesome in showing how to complete. did you manage to do it easier next time? thanks
Hey John, hope you are well. I'm contemplating doing the TBS myself after getting my bike back from the shop where the mechanic informed me he'd checked them " from the back" without removing the mid fairings or frame covers. Is this possible?? I'm a little suspicious about the plug change too, as I'm sure it's necessary to remove all the bodywork to gain access. What do you think? Is any of it possible without fairing removal? Cheers in advance.
hello there sir, good to hear from you... I am not sure about your questions on the Versys. I sold mine a few years back so my memory might be a little foggy. I would say that changing spark plugs without removing the gas tank would be impossible. a Throttle body sync with the gas tank on would be very difficult I would think but maybe possible... You might want to check those plugs... Good luck with your projects.. thanks for watching... keep safe out there... :)
Hello i need little info as i am worried recently while changing spark plugs by mistake without knowing changed the position of upper butterfly valve and it did not return back i think its servo controlled what i need is will ecu reposition the valves or should i figure out to return valves to previous point? After service when i started the second time engine dies at idle restarted multiple times but it flated out without applying throttle after turning the idle screw to far forward then it stabilised Is this problem beacuse i played with servo controlled throttle valves?
no sir, the ECU runs the throttle valves throughout there complete range of motion and resets them at idle every time you turn on the ignition key. I am wondering if the engine is firing on all 4 cylinders. It it running smoothly? If not I would check that all of the coils are down all the way on the spark plugs and make sure all of the coils are plugged in correctly. If so then I would give those new plugs a real close look. hope this helps.... :)
@@ozarksbackroads5484 thank you so much i feel relieved now by your words yes engine is running smooth but just i was worried of throttle plate thanks for your reply have a great day
@@motomike83 I am sorry, the specification should give the vacuum level +/- at a specific RPM. The RPM of the engine at idle will determine the vacuum level. The vacuum will be lower at 1000 RPM than it will be at 1200 RPM. I didn't pay any attention to my RPM at idle when I did the sync so that's my bad.... thanks... :)
Hello sir, thanks for watching, I think the service manual schedule showed throttle body sync to be performed every 20,000 miles. Keep safe out there... :)
When doing this kind of work, is there a rule of thumb on which cylinder(s) you adjust? Do you lower the higher values or raise the lower values? Unless you are aiming to sync all of them at a defined value.
the manual said to raise the lower vacuum cylinders to match the higher ones and also gave a vacuum range that all should fall within. 24 inches was right in the center of the specified range.
i have NO idea how you got the right angle screwdriver tool to work...tried for 20 min on each throttle body, could not notice if the screws were turning and no change on the Sync Pro tool...I gave up! Cylinder #1 was a high, and would love to lower it, but can't make the air screw turn, and can't make others turn to bring down to #1 level...any ideas?
I am going to try it with the air filter housing removed next time. I think i can get to the screws from above straight down. You might give that a try...
I did that...plugged in inlet air temp sensor to the air box, moved it to the side...was able to try from outside of bike and from above....no matter how much i put pressure on screwdriver and how much I rotated it, never any change on the Sync Pro...man, i sure miss the ez tbs of my FJRs :( For all i know, the bit may even be too big for the slot! I have never seen the screws, so don;t know if the bit is even engaging.
I think the bend is ok....the damn screwdriver "feel" is SO vague. Guessing it's a cable driving the bit...don't know if the depth is too shallow on the bit, or the bit is too large, etc. Tried turning it very slowly to engage, but no joy. Oh well...
I got that same screwdriver to do idle mixtures on a Suzuki 1100. Close to the most hated tool I have. The tool isn't great but the task you have to do with it is near horrid. So vague, no feel. Be glad you weren't trying to do mixtures where you need to accurately go too far and come back to the same spot. Yamaha FJ 1200 on the other hand has the three balance and 4 mixture screws on top. That work was nearly fun in comparison! The rest of you guys don't need to worry much about balancing unless there is a noticeable imbalance at idle and pull away from idle. If you can't perceive any cylinders sounding different than the rest, I wouldn't sweat it. The Versys engine is electric motor smooth when it's dialed in. You'll know when it's not. And once you are motivating with the throttle open, all this is moot anyway. Or at least that is what one would think since you are adjusting 1-2% of the airflow. I'm surprised that you sensed a difference at highway speeds.
I've had this bike for over 5 years and absolutely love it. Great informative channel. I think I'll probably take it in to have the throttle bodies adjusted, but will do the rest myself.
Good to hear from you sir, Thanks for watching... :)
what a beautiful bike!
Great video I do all my own work so when it is out of warranty and feel it need working on I will replay your video
out standing work
Thanks Jeff from Down Under
thanks Sir... :)
Great video. Step by step. And clean. You deserve alot of subs sir.
Thank You Sir...... :)
Thanks for the detailed video. I’ve got a 2020 V1000 that I’m going to the sync on next summer
Good to hear from you sir... good luck with your projects and thanks for watching...
Good job
John, So much time and effort to perform this task eh..... I have done the Throttle Body Sync on my previous bike a 1250 Suzuki Bandit and that was super easy to do, just like Carburetor balancing on other bikes and very easy to access. I have only owned my Versys for just over 8 months (1500 miles) and will leave it for now until she's out of warranty, however I will be checking and performing these tasks when the time is right. I have found the Versys a lovely bike to own but very time consuming when it comes to removing side panels/fairing sections etc. to gain access to work areas. I can see where the Labour element of the bill creeps up with the amount of time spent removing and replacing things before you've even got near what you intend to do. Thank you for sharing.
Great Video...I've been debating doing this myself but I'm leaning on taking it to the shop.
Thank yu for the video. What is the windscreen you have on this video? :)
Good to hear form you sir. I believe that was the Givi medium height touring screen. Thanks for watching... :)
just got a versys and reading all the servicing it needs, never even heard of a throttle body sync. mind you i game from a 20yr old R6. your video is simply awesome in showing how to complete. did you manage to do it easier next time? thanks
Thanks for watching sir, congrats on the new ride... yes any service procedure is always faster after the first go around... keep safe out there... :)
Hey John, hope you are well.
I'm contemplating doing the TBS myself after getting my bike back from the shop where the mechanic informed me he'd checked them " from the back" without removing the mid fairings or frame covers. Is this possible??
I'm a little suspicious about the plug change too, as I'm sure it's necessary to remove all the bodywork to gain access. What do you think?
Is any of it possible without fairing removal? Cheers in advance.
hello there sir, good to hear from you... I am not sure about your questions on the Versys. I sold mine a few years back so my memory might be a little foggy. I would say that changing spark plugs without removing the gas tank would be impossible. a Throttle body sync with the gas tank on would be very difficult I would think but maybe possible... You might want to check those plugs... Good luck with your projects.. thanks for watching... keep safe out there... :)
Hello i need little info as i am worried recently while changing spark plugs by mistake without knowing changed the position of upper butterfly valve and it did not return back i think its servo controlled what i need is will ecu reposition the valves or should i figure out to return valves to previous point?
After service when i started the second time engine dies at idle restarted multiple times but it flated out without applying throttle after turning the idle screw to far forward then it stabilised
Is this problem beacuse i played with servo controlled throttle valves?
no sir, the ECU runs the throttle valves throughout there complete range of motion and resets them at idle every time you turn on the ignition key. I am wondering if the engine is firing on all 4 cylinders. It it running smoothly? If not I would check that all of the coils are down all the way on the spark plugs and make sure all of the coils are plugged in correctly. If so then I would give those new plugs a real close look. hope this helps.... :)
@@ozarksbackroads5484 thank you so much i feel relieved now by your words yes engine is running smooth but just i was worried of throttle plate thanks for your reply have a great day
Hi,the standard vacuum should be 305 +, - 10 mmHg according to the manual. You have 240 mmHg after adjustment. That is not bad? Too little?
good to hear from you sir... at what RPM is that figure taken at I am wondering... thanks for watching .... :)
@@ozarksbackroads5484 I'm sorry but I don't quite understand :-)
@@motomike83 I am sorry, the specification should give the vacuum level +/- at a specific RPM. The RPM of the engine at idle will determine the vacuum level. The vacuum will be lower at 1000 RPM than it will be at 1200 RPM. I didn't pay any attention to my RPM at idle when I did the sync so that's my bad.... thanks... :)
@@ozarksbackroads5484 Thanks for the explanation. I was just wondering how it is :-)
After the initial sync how often should this be done mileage wise
Hello sir, thanks for watching, I think the service manual schedule showed throttle body sync to be performed every 20,000 miles. Keep safe out there... :)
When doing this kind of work, is there a rule of thumb on which cylinder(s) you adjust? Do you lower the higher values or raise the lower values? Unless you are aiming to sync all of them at a defined value.
the manual said to raise the lower vacuum cylinders to match the higher ones and also gave a vacuum range that all should fall within. 24 inches was right in the center of the specified range.
im'e sorry thats 24 cm/Hg is the center of the spec.
i have NO idea how you got the right angle screwdriver tool to work...tried for 20 min on each throttle body, could not notice if the screws were turning and no change on the Sync Pro tool...I gave up! Cylinder #1 was a high, and would love to lower it, but can't make the air screw turn, and can't make others turn to bring down to #1 level...any ideas?
I am going to try it with the air filter housing removed next time. I think i can get to the screws from above straight down. You might give that a try...
I did that...plugged in inlet air temp sensor to the air box, moved it to the side...was able to try from outside of bike and from above....no matter how much i put pressure on screwdriver and how much I rotated it, never any change on the Sync Pro...man, i sure miss the ez tbs of my FJRs :(
For all i know, the bit may even be too big for the slot! I have never seen the screws, so don;t know if the bit is even engaging.
I had a hard time as well but I was able to get on the screws eventually, I dont know what else to suggest...sorry sir...
I wonder if bending the end of the screwdriver closer to 90 Degrees would help to get on the screws, I thought about doing that when I was doing it?
I think the bend is ok....the damn screwdriver "feel" is SO vague. Guessing it's a cable driving the bit...don't know if the depth is too shallow on the bit, or the bit is too large, etc. Tried turning it very slowly to engage, but no joy. Oh well...
Is it the 2016 version versys?
yes its a 2016...... Thanks Sir :)
where did you get the risers?
I believe the Rock Risers came from Revzilla....thanks...
If I have to do this to own a inline 4 motorcycle I think I'll just buy another Harley 😅. I'd be totally lost.
Gréât vidéo and thank You for triste instruction very PRO
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Good to hear from you sir, I am glad you found the video useful. Thanks for watching and keep safe out there... :)
I got that same screwdriver to do idle mixtures on a Suzuki 1100. Close to the most hated tool I have. The tool isn't great but the task you have to do with it is near horrid. So vague, no feel. Be glad you weren't trying to do mixtures where you need to accurately go too far and come back to the same spot. Yamaha FJ 1200 on the other hand has the three balance and 4 mixture screws on top. That work was nearly fun in comparison!
The rest of you guys don't need to worry much about balancing unless there is a noticeable imbalance at idle and pull away from idle. If you can't perceive any cylinders sounding different than the rest, I wouldn't sweat it. The Versys engine is electric motor smooth when it's dialed in. You'll know when it's not. And once you are motivating with the throttle open, all this is moot anyway. Or at least that is what one would think since you are adjusting 1-2% of the airflow. I'm surprised that you sensed a difference at highway speeds.
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