I don't need higher kW power so much as I wish Tesla would flatten the charging curve. My Model Y is doing 115 kWs at 50%. That's too low. ....I'm not complaining, I'm extremely happy with my reliable Supercharger experience. It just could easily be better.
This is likely why they sued EVject. Tesla sued claiming the adapter did not have safe current and thermal tolerances. They likely knew that they were upping the amperage to 900 A and is is unlikely The adapter was built with that high of amperage tolerance.
Kyle, as someone suggested you need an infrared thermometer or such to make comments about temperature. You can’t leave your hand on greater than 140 degrees F. Therefore, between approximately 140 and 212 (when you spit on it and it spits back) you may know by amps that it should be hotter you don’t know what it is.
The cables on the V4 Supercharger dispensers are much beefier than the cables on a standard V3. In both cases, it looks like Tesla is operating on a "boost" rating that lets them exceed the placard rated current for a short period of time. That's why Cybertruck owners are running into power limits after ~10 minutes on the V3 cables.
They just opened 12 new Superchargers 1 week ago here in east San Antonio (Converse) but I can't test them because I have a Ford Lightning with adapter
I'm curious...why doesn't that work? Don't Fords have access to V3 Superchargers, including plug and charge, by using an adapter? I'm not up on all the details.
Oh interesting! That is on my route home from a trip I’m currently on. Might have to do a little creative route planning and see if I can hit it on my way back. Thanks for the heads up! *Edit: re-read your post and see that they’re not online yet. Will keep a lookout, though, as I pass through there periodically.
@@aaronboggs5799 I’m interesting I. Knowing when they go live. It looks like they and the Convenience store are almost complete. We had just charged up near the university. It was about 45 minutes south. I can’t be more precise. The downside to driving a Tesla is keeping close to the speed limit. Both my wife and I just “drive”. Unfortunately we end up around 80mph or slightly more.
I would really like to see old V1 and V2 stations to be upgraded to V4 dispensers and chargers but I'm also not sure why a lot of new superchargers still have V3 dispensers, just seems like the manufacturing of these V4 dispensers and chargers is not going according to plan at all. The laid off supercharging team deserves a lot of credit but I also think their big fail was not having any 800V charging solutions
It takes a ton of municipal coordination and effort plus utility coordination to install stations. It takes many many months if not years to get things designed/engineered, sourced, permitted, corrected, permitted, utility holdup, unexpired, permitted. The existing V3 dispensers being manufactured still have bollards that are being removed after installation rather than coming out of the factory that way.
pretty sure there are no remaining v1 Superchargers. There are a few very early V2, which may be limited to 90-120 kWh under the best circumstances, but no v1.
Kyle just said “I’m not saying that we here at out of spec know everything” I kind of chuckled out loud because literally his defining characteristic is being a know at all.
With Tesla so behind proper Cyber Truck charging why in the world would they fire their Supercharger team, makes no sense and a big disservice to all Cyber Truck customers, come on Tesla, show your support for your newest EV!
While I agree with your sentiment 100%, the only thing I can think of is that their performance was the root cause of why the truck is not charging well, and possibly they were not handling other companies integrations that well behind the scenes. Either way, I do agree with you that it’s really unfortunate
Perhaps the entire team was fired for their underperformance 🤔 they had years to get v4 ready and failed. After watching this video it sounds like the firing and restructuring of the team is paying off.
@@stevedrawdy2532restructuring? I thought they let the entire division go. I also wouldn’t gauge 1 sign of progress as any indicator that things are going well there, there are a lot of stories from rivian and ford people having zero contacts left to work on their integrations for supercharging support, I’d imagine other companies are approaching the Tesla integration a little more hesitantly due to this
@miodice3 Tesla did not fire the whole team. They also hired more afterwards. This is standard practice in tech companies when they want to break an entrenched culture that isn’t working well. It usually doesn’t make the news if it is a non-Tesla company though.
Re: "No wet rag". Is the adapter overheating? It seems like that even _with_ the wet rag, you've been seeing fast derating on Rivians, and I'm wondering if that's the adapter getting fried.
looking at the station in the car's navigation will tell you max KW. V2 is 125, V3 is 250. You can tell by looking at the cables too. V2 has much thicker cable.
v2 and v3 are both the red and white style chargers with the cable hanging in the middle. V2 has a chunky cable and v3 has a much thinner cable. V4 units are taller, solid, and white and black.
There are 290 open locations with V4s now. 44 of them in the US. I'm sure some cybertruck owners can get to them for a better understanding of what is where. hopefully Kyle has tried the one near him! Goto supercharge info to select the V4 stalls.
stupid question, would this also help the charging curve on a 2024 model 3 rwd lfp? or is the cars limitations dictating the curve, or would it be able to sustain a high charge for longer even if limited to 170Kw for charging. i've rarely had a "bad" charge in the car, and the time I did, it seemed to be a charger problem
Your car is software limited to 170kW even on a 250kW charger, they would need to update the vehicle to support more. Time will tell if even 250kW vehicles will be unlocked to accept more.
Request a special video. Ford lighting can charge other EVs. Do you think and want to try charging another EV while you charge the lighting or Silverado. I don't know if rivian has that capability.
I am about to test drive a Launch edition of the 2024 Chevrolet Silverado RST EV, my local dealer has one on order and it is in Vancouver and as soon as it comes to Sechelt, BC (Sunshine GMC), I would much prefer the CyberTruck but the battery size and poor charging are not in the mix. A acquaintance of ours in the last 3-4 weeks too delivery of a 4WTS, pickup up a 26 foot J-flight RV, drove it from Gibsons, BC to Malakwa, Charged in Hope, BC continued on Highway 5 then Highway 1 BC dropped it off at Malakwa, BC (531KM) and drove all the way back to Gibsons, BC without charging and if I recall he arrived with some 18% charge left. Now that Chevrolet Silverado RST is one is charging monster and perfect for my application of towing a 29foot RV in and around BC especially once GM & Tesla get the NACS update to version 3 superchargers!
Have you heard any more about the EVJECT that Zack and Jessie from the Now You Know channel were touting? Elon was suing the company if you hadn't heard.
@@evanhil02I don’t think this has anything to do with Elon worship. Or do you want to keep using an adaptor designed with 500 amps in mind on chargers that are now pushing out 900 amps?
@@audislowroad They are/were unwatchable. I used to watch them a few years ago, they had some good info when things were really ramping up. I forget about them for a couple years and watched a few videos several months ago. Now they just come off as insufferable shills, for lack of better terms.
@@Jeddin I was taking about Zac and Jessie on now you know, not the evject adapter. Elon does have many good points, and this concern about the evject safety adapter is valid (IMO). But Zac and Jessie fawn over everything Elon does and says.
I heard that their mega packs can be directly plugged into the grid. Anyone know if that is the case? And if so, could tesla use their mega packs to do all the conversions and output hvdc into the dispensers? That would not only streamline the install, it would allow them to pull less electricity at peak buy using the battery buffer and still be usable during grid outages. Any ideas if that would be possible?
Kyle I would like to know the charging voltage of 2024 Chevrolet Silverado big pack EV not the WT3, make fomr good content as the buzz on BC Sunshine Coast (likely the highest EV adoption) is all about a good towing EV truck.
I’d like to know how many seconds it will stay at 900A? Not long enough to get him in Service Mode it seems. 😮 I see this as an effort to not have it be said that Electrify America or other Ultra High power public DCFC provider is the only way to charge a cyber truck at full power.
They tried the cybertruck in a high voltage charger, I think it's a bit like the Lucid curve, 300+kw only goes to 30% I think, and then it drops super hard
From a UI perspective, the messaging and nomenclature around charging is really awful. I have an MSEE and the basic energy laws and units are second nature, but it's gobbledygook to so many. You don't want strict standards to stifle innovation, but clear concise charging capabilities from dispensers would have been so useful. Like grades of gasoline. Then you got Tesla just doing their own thing. It's still wild wild west. People want this instant EV adoption and market share, but it has to come from maturity in the marketplace and we will get it sorted, but it's not there yet.
Ok so what is the difference of the charging handle usage in rain verses wet rag, makes no sense at all. So what happens when you are charging and it starts to rain will Tesla software think this is a wet rag event and reduce charging significantly?
You're not thinking about this correctly. The amount of thermal energy that the rain can pull away from the surface of the handle is dramatically less than applying a wet rag. You would have to be in an absolute monsoon, with rainfall over 3 inches an hour, to match the rag based on my math.
How much of the future v4 supercharger setups (dispensers, even) are going to really happen at this point. Now that Tesla got everyone else to sign on to NACS, it sure seems like Elon isn’t so interested in really maintaining the existing superchargers, let alone getting the new dispensers out there.
This just tells me that Tesla engineered one hell of a nice cable for version 4. This is effectively Tesla’s “boost mode” and they are getting nearly 900 amps through a cable that is still usable by someone of average size and strength. Awesome! Now that being said, I think we have probably found the limit for cable tech and it really should be on the car companies to get the voltages up going forward.
Why do you keep yapping about the cold rag. Avoiding a lawsuit. Explain how reducing the “ambient” temperature on the handle with a rag is different than charging on a cool day. This reminds me off racing journalists going on and on about the SAFER barrier when any engineer knows energy is only dissipated with deformation. You’re smarter than this.
Does Tesla sell a vehicle that'll charge at 320 kW? Even if it does, will it charge at this rate for more than 10% of its charge curve? The obsession with high charging rates baffles me. My Bolt EV peaks at 50 kW, and this rate is acceptable for my needs. Sure, 150 kW would be better, especially if the battery accepts this rate for most of a 10-80% charge (which few batteries do), but 300 kW is totally unnecessary.
the obsession with high speeds is for road tripping. Additionally, as batteries get much larger (Silverado etc.), it will take a very long time at 50kw. Presently, the 200kwh battery in Silverado would take 4 hours at 50kw.
@@arrowlogproductions2509 320 kW from 10 to 20% state of charge then down to lower rates? How significant is that decrease in charge time? 10 kWh at 300 kW rather than 200 kW? Maybe you save five minutes, and then you're back down to 200 kW anyway, and by the time you're over 50% SOC, you're down to 100 kW if you're lucky. If you're charging from 10 to 80% SOC, five minutes isn't a huge difference. If five minutes makes a huge difference to you, stop at 75%. How often do you actually see this rate at an EA station? No charging station can deliver that rate to many vehicles simultaneously, and no vehicle accepts it for much of its charge curve. Kyle is telling you in this video that he's sitting at 60-70 kW in a Rivian at a Tesla charger because a temperature limit is exceeded, but even if that limit weren't exceeded, a Rivian is down to 150 kW at 50% SOC. If we want people to accept EVs, we need to counter this idea that EVs need to fill up with electrons as fast as an ICEV fills up with gas. It's unnecessary, and it'll be a long time before the charging infrastructure can handle it.
Peak charge rate can’t ever be high enough for some people: all of the ICE drivers bragging they can fill up their tanks at a 20 megawatt gasoline ⛽️ pump in 4 minutes.
Kyle, you might want to add a FLIR camera to your smartphone, so you can actually SEE and document the thermal behaviors at the charging stations.
I don't need higher kW power so much as I wish Tesla would flatten the charging curve. My Model Y is doing 115 kWs at 50%. That's too low.
....I'm not complaining, I'm extremely happy with my reliable Supercharger experience. It just could easily be better.
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Is Kyle wearing Invisalign? I'm hearing a slight lisp I've not noticed before.
I’ve noticed that when he’s on his laptop. Not sure if it’s the mic modulation or something changed
You waskely wavbbit!
Ya was cracking me up. I need more sleep.
"MO POWAH BABEE...!!!" (best Donut/James Pumphrey voice) oh wait, forget i said that.
This is likely why they sued EVject. Tesla sued claiming the adapter did not have safe current and thermal tolerances. They likely knew that they were upping the amperage to 900 A and is is unlikely The adapter was built with that high of amperage tolerance.
Same with the wet towel announcement
Kyle, as someone suggested you need an infrared thermometer or such to make comments about temperature. You can’t leave your hand on greater than 140 degrees F. Therefore, between approximately 140 and 212 (when you spit on it and it spits back) you may know by amps that it should be hotter you don’t know what it is.
The cables on the V4 Supercharger dispensers are much beefier than the cables on a standard V3. In both cases, it looks like Tesla is operating on a "boost" rating that lets them exceed the placard rated current for a short period of time. That's why Cybertruck owners are running into power limits after ~10 minutes on the V3 cables.
They just opened 12 new Superchargers 1 week ago here in east San Antonio (Converse) but I can't test them because I have a Ford Lightning with adapter
I'm curious...why doesn't that work? Don't Fords have access to V3 Superchargers, including plug and charge, by using an adapter? I'm not up on all the details.
@bearcubdaycare Yes it sure does but the Lightning only charges at 150kw
If it's a V4 stall, you would just use the built-in Magic Dock anyway
Glad your voice is back!
This is awesome! I live in Phoenix, Az and everything overheats in the summer it would be nice if the charge port was cooled.
On 29 just outside of Danville VA we just saw v4 superchargers going in at a new Royal Farms gas station/convenience store.
Oh interesting! That is on my route home from a trip I’m currently on. Might have to do a little creative route planning and see if I can hit it on my way back.
Thanks for the heads up!
*Edit: re-read your post and see that they’re not online yet. Will keep a lookout, though, as I pass through there periodically.
@@aaronboggs5799 I’m interesting I. Knowing when they go live. It looks like they and the Convenience store are almost complete. We had just charged up near the university. It was about 45 minutes south. I can’t be more precise. The downside to driving a Tesla is keeping close to the speed limit. Both my wife and I just “drive”. Unfortunately we end up around 80mph or slightly more.
I would really like to see old V1 and V2 stations to be upgraded to V4 dispensers and chargers but I'm also not sure why a lot of new superchargers still have V3 dispensers, just seems like the manufacturing of these V4 dispensers and chargers is not going according to plan at all. The laid off supercharging team deserves a lot of credit but I also think their big fail was not having any 800V charging solutions
…no V4 dispenser has a V4 cabinet…V4 cabinets don’t exist.
It takes a ton of municipal coordination and effort plus utility coordination to install stations. It takes many many months if not years to get things designed/engineered, sourced, permitted, corrected, permitted, utility holdup, unexpired, permitted. The existing V3 dispensers being manufactured still have bollards that are being removed after installation rather than coming out of the factory that way.
pretty sure there are no remaining v1 Superchargers. There are a few very early V2, which may be limited to 90-120 kWh under the best circumstances, but no v1.
Fantastic insight!
Fargo ND V4 is outputting 274kW.
Was pulled on a Model Y.
Kyle just said “I’m not saying that we here at out of spec know everything” I kind of chuckled out loud because literally his defining characteristic is being a know at all.
Ill save you 22min.
-Cybertruck can charge over 350kw...
-no, its not official yet
(Oh, and V2G is built into ModelY... no its not official yet) 😉
With Tesla so behind proper Cyber Truck charging why in the world would they fire their Supercharger team, makes no sense and a big disservice to all Cyber Truck customers, come on Tesla, show your support for your newest EV!
While I agree with your sentiment 100%, the only thing I can think of is that their performance was the root cause of why the truck is not charging well, and possibly they were not handling other companies integrations that well behind the scenes. Either way, I do agree with you that it’s really unfortunate
Perhaps the entire team was fired for their underperformance 🤔 they had years to get v4 ready and failed. After watching this video it sounds like the firing and restructuring of the team is paying off.
@@stevedrawdy2532restructuring? I thought they let the entire division go. I also wouldn’t gauge 1 sign of progress as any indicator that things are going well there, there are a lot of stories from rivian and ford people having zero contacts left to work on their integrations for supercharging support, I’d imagine other companies are approaching the Tesla integration a little more hesitantly due to this
@miodice3 Tesla did not fire the whole team. They also hired more afterwards. This is standard practice in tech companies when they want to break an entrenched culture that isn’t working well. It usually doesn’t make the news if it is a non-Tesla company though.
@@juliahello6673according to news, musk fired Tinucci and her entire 500 person team
When is Kyle going to check out the gravity charges in NYC?
I thought he already did.
Wondering when will Tesla start to upgrade V1 and V2 chargers here in Europe to V4 ?
Another great episode ❤
Re: "No wet rag". Is the adapter overheating? It seems like that even _with_ the wet rag, you've been seeing fast derating on Rivians, and I'm wondering if that's the adapter getting fried.
They should restripe v3 stations the new way with the lines halfway in between because parking centered with the rivian reaches the left side.
Scavenger hunt V3 Plus road trip Kyle??????
Is this attainable for any other Tesla vehicle other than Cybertruck?
How do you tell which version the supercharger is?
looking at the station in the car's navigation will tell you max KW. V2 is 125, V3 is 250. You can tell by looking at the cables too. V2 has much thicker cable.
v2 and v3 are both the red and white style chargers with the cable hanging in the middle. V2 has a chunky cable and v3 has a much thinner cable. V4 units are taller, solid, and white and black.
Silver plated pins. Nice, but silver plating does tarnish. Inherent flaw.
Uncorked!
There are 290 open locations with V4s now. 44 of them in the US. I'm sure some cybertruck owners can get to them for a better understanding of what is where. hopefully Kyle has tried the one near him! Goto supercharge info to select the V4 stalls.
Congratulations. Tesla superchargers seems to be important for charging in the US.
stupid question, would this also help the charging curve on a 2024 model 3 rwd lfp? or is the cars limitations dictating the curve, or would it be able to sustain a high charge for longer even if limited to 170Kw for charging. i've rarely had a "bad" charge in the car, and the time I did, it seemed to be a charger problem
Your car is software limited to 170kW even on a 250kW charger, they would need to update the vehicle to support more. Time will tell if even 250kW vehicles will be unlocked to accept more.
Request a special video. Ford lighting can charge other EVs. Do you think and want to try charging another EV while you charge the lighting or Silverado. I don't know if rivian has that capability.
not as keen about crazy current, when is higher voltage going to be seen?
Kyle teaching us how to stretch a 5 minute RUclips video to 22:57 minuties to get his RUclips money.
why can't tesla just adopt the full nacs standard already?
Some states require credit card readers on public chargers.
V3+ location in Roseville, CA. I’ll take my i5 there as it’s a MagicDock location as well.
Capped at 97 kW.
@@packfan909 Yep, they are not doing more than 400V charging on these still. 800V class vehicles will not see a boost as a result of this.
I am about to test drive a Launch edition of the 2024 Chevrolet Silverado RST EV, my local dealer has one on order and it is in Vancouver and as soon as it comes to Sechelt, BC (Sunshine GMC), I would much prefer the CyberTruck but the battery size and poor charging are not in the mix. A acquaintance of ours in the last 3-4 weeks too delivery of a 4WTS, pickup up a 26 foot J-flight RV, drove it from Gibsons, BC to Malakwa, Charged in Hope, BC continued on Highway 5 then Highway 1 BC dropped it off at Malakwa, BC (531KM) and drove all the way back to Gibsons, BC without charging and if I recall he arrived with some 18% charge left. Now that Chevrolet Silverado RST is one is charging monster and perfect for my application of towing a 29foot RV in and around BC especially once GM & Tesla get the NACS update to version 3 superchargers!
Have you heard any more about the EVJECT that Zack and Jessie from the Now You Know channel were touting? Elon was suing the company if you hadn't heard.
Followed them for awhile, primarily a whine & complain channel so unfollowed them.
And now it's a worship-Elon-because he can do nothing wrong channel.
@@evanhil02I don’t think this has anything to do with Elon worship. Or do you want to keep using an adaptor designed with 500 amps in mind on chargers that are now pushing out 900 amps?
@@audislowroad They are/were unwatchable. I used to watch them a few years ago, they had some good info when things were really ramping up. I forget about them for a couple years and watched a few videos several months ago. Now they just come off as insufferable shills, for lack of better terms.
@@Jeddin I was taking about Zac and Jessie on now you know, not the evject adapter. Elon does have many good points, and this concern about the evject safety adapter is valid (IMO). But Zac and Jessie fawn over everything Elon does and says.
I heard that their mega packs can be directly plugged into the grid. Anyone know if that is the case? And if so, could tesla use their mega packs to do all the conversions and output hvdc into the dispensers? That would not only streamline the install, it would allow them to pull less electricity at peak buy using the battery buffer and still be usable during grid outages. Any ideas if that would be possible?
Pretty sure…
How much current does the Hummer EV request when pack-splitted? Maby it also could go up that high like the CT?!
Oooooo maybe! Although I still think GM sets a 500A request limit
Kyle I would like to know the charging voltage of 2024 Chevrolet Silverado big pack EV not the WT3, make fomr good content as the buzz on BC Sunshine Coast (likely the highest EV adoption) is all about a good towing EV truck.
So the slow Supercharger network wasn't the best and there was little value in moving everyone to J3400. Thanks Farley.
Dude- its not the handle in and of itself - its the adaptor!
I’d like to know how many seconds it will stay at 900A? Not long enough to get him in Service Mode it seems. 😮
I see this as an effort to not have it be said that Electrify America or other Ultra High power public DCFC provider is the only way to charge a cyber truck at full power.
They tried the cybertruck in a high voltage charger, I think it's a bit like the Lucid curve, 300+kw only goes to 30% I think, and then it drops super hard
The pack with the 2 modules, either series or parallel charging connection with respective series 800VDC or parallel 400VDC.
Get your plaid out there!!!
“Views” on a tweet mean nothing. X can promote a tweet behind the scenes, and anyone who *scrolls* past the tweet counts toward that number.
Here to request the charging deep dive that you alluded to at the end of the video. 🤓
From a UI perspective, the messaging and nomenclature around charging is really awful. I have an MSEE and the basic energy laws and units are second nature, but it's gobbledygook to so many. You don't want strict standards to stifle innovation, but clear concise charging capabilities from dispensers would have been so useful. Like grades of gasoline. Then you got Tesla just doing their own thing. It's still wild wild west. People want this instant EV adoption and market share, but it has to come from maturity in the marketplace and we will get it sorted, but it's not there yet.
Some of those "shock" methods are not exactly unproven, they have been used on other batteries.
Ok so what is the difference of the charging handle usage in rain verses wet rag, makes no sense at all. So what happens when you are charging and it starts to rain will Tesla software think this is a wet rag event and reduce charging significantly?
You're not thinking about this correctly. The amount of thermal energy that the rain can pull away from the surface of the handle is dramatically less than applying a wet rag.
You would have to be in an absolute monsoon, with rainfall over 3 inches an hour, to match the rag based on my math.
How much of the future v4 supercharger setups (dispensers, even) are going to really happen at this point. Now that Tesla got everyone else to sign on to NACS, it sure seems like Elon isn’t so interested in really maintaining the existing superchargers, let alone getting the new dispensers out there.
Is Kyle’s voice different or is it me?
With the current pace of technological development at Tesla, we will have 800V capable superchargers by 2040 at the earliest.
@kyleconner why don't we have V4 chargers. You must have someone inside Tesla who knows.
Why does it look like a ski boot over Kyle's shoulder?
Don’t give em too much too fast Mr Elon
Kyle wearing Invisalign? I hear the lisp!
The faster you charge the shorter the cycle life of your battery 👍
How wears a hoodie in the SUMMER TIME?
Dumping more current is not the way to go! It's like a DIY kind of solution.
This just tells me that Tesla engineered one hell of a nice cable for version 4. This is effectively Tesla’s “boost mode” and they are getting nearly 900 amps through a cable that is still usable by someone of average size and strength. Awesome! Now that being said, I think we have probably found the limit for cable tech and it really should be on the car companies to get the voltages up going forward.
900 AMPS WILL CHARGE A SSSEMI CHECKMATE CHECKMATE
Am I insane, or did Kyle have a lisp in this video? 😅
The Best Charger is No Charger.
Why do you keep yapping about the cold rag. Avoiding a lawsuit. Explain how reducing the “ambient” temperature on the handle with a rag is different than charging on a cool day. This reminds me off racing journalists going on and on about the SAFER barrier when any engineer knows energy is only dissipated with deformation. You’re smarter than this.
Now I see why the supercharger team was all laid off. Lol
what is up with kyle's voice? dental surgery? bee stings?
I suspect it is his device on wich he shoots the video.
Lack of V4 chargers, might why Elon sacked the team this spring.
🤏
Kyle get some dental work? What’s with your lisp?
It's his laptop's audio bitrate.
Does Tesla sell a vehicle that'll charge at 320 kW? Even if it does, will it charge at this rate for more than 10% of its charge curve? The obsession with high charging rates baffles me. My Bolt EV peaks at 50 kW, and this rate is acceptable for my needs. Sure, 150 kW would be better, especially if the battery accepts this rate for most of a 10-80% charge (which few batteries do), but 300 kW is totally unnecessary.
Cybertruck will do 320+ on EA right now, which significantly decreases charge time for such a large vehicle
the obsession with high speeds is for road tripping. Additionally, as batteries get much larger (Silverado etc.), it will take a very long time at 50kw. Presently, the 200kwh battery in Silverado would take 4 hours at 50kw.
@@arrowlogproductions2509 320 kW from 10 to 20% state of charge then down to lower rates? How significant is that decrease in charge time? 10 kWh at 300 kW rather than 200 kW? Maybe you save five minutes, and then you're back down to 200 kW anyway, and by the time you're over 50% SOC, you're down to 100 kW if you're lucky. If you're charging from 10 to 80% SOC, five minutes isn't a huge difference. If five minutes makes a huge difference to you, stop at 75%.
How often do you actually see this rate at an EA station? No charging station can deliver that rate to many vehicles simultaneously, and no vehicle accepts it for much of its charge curve. Kyle is telling you in this video that he's sitting at 60-70 kW in a Rivian at a Tesla charger because a temperature limit is exceeded, but even if that limit weren't exceeded, a Rivian is down to 150 kW at 50% SOC.
If we want people to accept EVs, we need to counter this idea that EVs need to fill up with electrons as fast as an ICEV fills up with gas. It's unnecessary, and it'll be a long time before the charging infrastructure can handle it.
Yes, peak charge rate is over-rated. The actual charge curve is the real world winner.
Peak charge rate can’t ever be high enough for some people: all of the ICE drivers bragging they can fill up their tanks at a 20 megawatt gasoline ⛽️ pump in 4 minutes.
Can you stop fixing your hair? It is annoying
900 AMPS WILL CHARGE A SSSEMI CHECKMATE CHECKMATE
……… make mental note to liquid cool male cord cap w/over 250 kw per NEC code ………????
The Best Charger is No Charger.