Yeah, i am not star craft 2 player but if he knew perfectly well he is going to make ultras why didnt he do anything to counter it but complain? I am not buying argument that pros do not know how "broken" this tactic is, many of them are smurfing or playing in lower elo so they know those tactics perfectly well, but there is most likely some way to counter it he just do not know about. I ve seen many videos of him, and he does have knowledge but he seems to be easly put off by faints and other mind games, in star craft 2 ive seen pros delaying some pushes or builds on purpose to make opponent think they are going for something else or to off put people in some way, when this is happening to artosis he just starts raging that his opponent is so bad he fails to use build in normal way (wchich is sometime true) when in reality he is getting juked and isnt able to adapt to something he does not expects or do not leave enough place for adaptation in his plans i think.
5:50 there's a galaxy brain strat that makes it so you don't auto lose the game to a massive attack wave. Seige your tanks and don't push against other seige tanks. You have BCs. Use them on the tanks
SojiWoonG smacks RT’s cheeks whenever they play. He’s actually a very skilled player by the looks of it.. but RT’s ego won’t let him admit someone’s better then him 🤦♂️
I would like to have seen RT switch to Battlecruisers vs the zerg with ultras/sunkens. Use the sci vessels to Dmatrix the BBC's to help with scourge and just kill the spire. GG if you can kill the spire.
Is it viable for the terran against crazy zerg, focus more on macro, another Main+natural (4 bases) and start making tanks on the second main, until you change full mech?
I understand artosis, but my rage is from brawlhalla. People who clearly suck and don't know any controls can still win by spamming abilities and relying on me accidently running into their attack because I haven't trained to counter something that isn't logical for the opponent to be doing But I guess that just means they are better than me according to some
@@vOddy75 Indeed. In fighting games, for instance, you can reliably beat people who flail around randomly by disengaging and spamming fireballs. They'll die by trying to close the distance or to chip damage, often both. The problem with bad habits, however, is that ditching them initially makes you play WORSE. If it didn't, they wouldn't be "habits" and you wouldn't get stuck in them. They're the local maxima; you have to unlearn them and practice playing properly, failing a lot along the way, otherwise you'll never get better.
Day9 has some good just starting out videos. But they're a bit outdated but they still can give you a general idea. otherwise jinjin5000 has translated more modern build orders from some korean pros. GL HF, don't feel bad losing the first 100 games but find joy in the improvement of each and every one that you play.
Battlecruisers are fairly expensive and take a while to build. By the time you can get them in fairly effective numbers the zerg player will typically have built a defiler or two. Said defilers can cast an ability called dark swarm that blocks any ranged damage to units under the cloud, rendering the battlecruisers attacks useless. The defilers can also use an ability called plague, which deals damage over time to any unit hit by it in an area. Air units like battlecruisers don't have much of a collision hitbox, so they will stack on top of each-other. This means one defiler can hit every single battlecruiser sometimes and knock them down by about half their health. In effect engaging a crazy zerg player head on with battlecruisers as our ever turtling and inflexible Artosis typically does results in them dealing no damage and getting significantly damaged or destroyed by plague. A player who had some tactical flexibility would probably use Battlecruisers to flank behind the zerg army and damage their base while the zerg wale on their siege tank line, but even this is fairly difficult to do as crazy zerg players will typically heavily buff the armor of their army before committing to an attack. Also the zerg player can just build scourges which can kill the battlecruisers at half the cost in about a quarter of the build time.
“I worked my ass off” -that’s his problem in a nutshell. He thinks the answer to crazy Zerg is to keep using the same unit comp “but do it harder” lollll. He refuses to evolve with the meta and actually attacks anyone who does as “not playing the game right”. As if macro’ing harder with a mismatched unit comp is going to fix it
Currently everyone is losing to Crazy Zerg, it's not really a case of just changing unit comps up. Because currently no Terran pros have an answer to it, they're all trying things but it's not really working right now.
@@ArtosisClips I’m a noob so this might be a dumb question, but it seems like Crazy Zerg requires the Zerg to turtle so much that they can never bust you until they get to late game. The most they can do is some muta harass. So why not tech up to BCs?
@@Mushroom1882 fully upgraded BCs can 1 shot scourge though? And dark swarm already makes the ultras/lings invincible to every Terran ground unit except firebats and tanks, so how are you any worse off with BCs, at least the BCs can’t be wrecked by the ultras and can fly over the sunkens to destroy Zerg production. I hear your point that going bc would take so long that the Zerg gets to defiler, but with Crazy Zerg that’s already happening anyway cuz the sunks are shutting down the early game M+M
@@ArtosisClips Couldn't you stay bio but do a minimum tech investment to vulture mines? Mines would work under dark swarm, could be used as a back-line drop when all the zerg's focus is the front door to drop like a reaver into mineral line, a chain of them would likely delete or heavily wound an ultra, just have to either D-matrix it on drop or avoid being mine-dragged into your bio bubble, and vultures only cost minerals so gas investment is minimal beyond the startup cost of factory + Mshop
He needs to accept he is an better than average A rank player. He can not evolve with the meta and is just not flexible to make it to high S rank. That is why his go to excuse is always to call the other player bad or say I knew what he was gonna do yet I still played the loosing strategy into it but they are the bad players.
He's been S rank pretty consistently the past couple months, the meta just changed recently to one that Terran players don't have the answer for right now. No Terran pros are really able to deal with Crazy Zerg at the moment as a strategy.
@@ArtosisClips Do you guys leave your cult hivemind? Crazy zerg is over a decade old. "New strat that pros can't deal with" lmao, meanwhile the top like 10 players on ladder are Terran. Stop listening to Artosis blame the game when he just sucks. Crazy zerg primarily profits off Terrans who are unsuccessful at being aggressive...which is literally textbook, turtle, grandpa micro Artosis.
Hey Arty, since you play terran have you tried building a platform in the air and build there? Ultra's probably can't reach that, unless they patch the game and give them wings. Jokes aside, have you tried goliath vessel with some unsieged tanks? I know it sounds weird, just an idea. Love your content Arty, salt and normal alike :)
Artosis, have you ever played Starcraft Burning Ground? It's awesome MOD for Starcraft Broodwar because most of the units were taken from Starcraft II, and I'm sure if you're going much frustrated when playing it for the first time because the AI so cheap. They even could train Elite Units which normally human player can't xD
I found him entertaining when he rages, but I find it annoying now, simply because I see how he makes really really bad choices and then complains all game. XD oh well I'm entertained at least
Irradiating ultras vs marines makes as much sense as casting dark swarm over hydras vs zealots
Better than emping the ultras
@@ATOQ777 He did that? Omg
Yeah, i am not star craft 2 player but if he knew perfectly well he is going to make ultras why didnt he do anything to counter it but complain? I am not buying argument that pros do not know how "broken" this tactic is, many of them are smurfing or playing in lower elo so they know those tactics perfectly well, but there is most likely some way to counter it he just do not know about.
I ve seen many videos of him, and he does have knowledge but he seems to be easly put off by faints and other mind games, in star craft 2 ive seen pros delaying some pushes or builds on purpose to make opponent think they are going for something else or to off put people in some way, when this is happening to artosis he just starts raging that his opponent is so bad he fails to use build in normal way (wchich is sometime true) when in reality he is getting juked and isnt able to adapt to something he does not expects or do not leave enough place for adaptation in his plans i think.
No. You should still use irradiate.
what do you reccomend
Can't beat Zerg. Can't beat Protoss. Just play TvT mirrors from now on. Oh wait he hates those too.
Artosis: "I love this game"
-Hates all matchups
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8:25 i like how he's pointing with his finger
7:17 that's the best donation ever
NEW CLIPS LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
That last clip made me cry due to laughter, so so good. Thanks for the clips!
Medic: Where does it hurt?
Artosis: Yes
I love when arty is so mad he can't even type right.
5:50 there's a galaxy brain strat that makes it so you don't auto lose the game to a massive attack wave. Seige your tanks and don't push against other seige tanks. You have BCs. Use them on the tanks
"Pros weren't smart enough to realize how broken it is"
I just wanna see Artosis scream like he's going Super Saiyan.
"You think you're smart you're naaaaaaawt"
Oh hi Flash
You know how you beat it. Early and unending pressure that Artosis would call cheese
"guys wanna tell me how to beat this?" is on 2 base and opponent on 6 LOL
I like zentosis, but i like ragetosis more
I come to these clips for the rage
I also stay for the rage
I love how he calls all of chat’s strategies stupid when his strategies are also failing
SojiWoonG smacks RT’s cheeks whenever they play. He’s actually a very skilled player by the looks of it.. but RT’s ego won’t let him admit someone’s better then him 🤦♂️
In a battle I would use defense matrix vs Ultra, outside battle (when he runs away or to bait him) irradiate is good idea..
i think the units are actually programmed to troll artosis
like the devs keep track of his username and when hes in a game they upload the artios ai
I would like to have seen RT switch to Battlecruisers vs the zerg with ultras/sunkens. Use the sci vessels to Dmatrix the BBC's to help with scourge and just kill the spire. GG if you can kill the spire.
Is it viable for the terran against crazy zerg, focus more on macro, another Main+natural (4 bases) and start making tanks on the second main, until you change full mech?
HE'S NOT EVEN GOOD AT THE GAMMMMEEE ARTOOOOOOOSIS! FLASH WOULD HAVE WON ARTOOOOSIIIISSSSSS
4:54 that response LMFAO
Artosis used to be such a happy person. I don't know what happened, but he's become so angry and miserable. Breaks my heart.
He's still a happy person, gotta remember this is most of when he's maddest. :D
I understand artosis, but my rage is from brawlhalla. People who clearly suck and don't know any controls can still win by spamming abilities and relying on me accidently running into their attack because I haven't trained to counter something that isn't logical for the opponent to be doing
But I guess that just means they are better than me according to some
Well if it works it’s clearly the logical thing to do
Artosis has found a true kindred spirit in you. "It only works because it's sooooo stooooopid."
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid, or, you're stupid for losing to it.
If you think otherwise, you are a scrub.
@@vOddy75 Indeed. In fighting games, for instance, you can reliably beat people who flail around randomly by disengaging and spamming fireballs. They'll die by trying to close the distance or to chip damage, often both.
The problem with bad habits, however, is that ditching them initially makes you play WORSE. If it didn't, they wouldn't be "habits" and you wouldn't get stuck in them. They're the local maxima; you have to unlearn them and practice playing properly, failing a lot along the way, otherwise you'll never get better.
Where can I start as someone completely new to sc and SC:bw?
Day9 has some good just starting out videos. But they're a bit outdated but they still can give you a general idea. otherwise jinjin5000 has translated more modern build orders from some korean pros. GL HF, don't feel bad losing the first 100 games but find joy in the improvement of each and every one that you play.
Hey man! Pearl said some good stuff. Also watch ArtosisCasts where pro players play eachother, you'll learn a ton!
Would widow mines work against the ultras?
yes
Ultras also one-shot Widow Mines, they can attack them as they pop-up.
its spider mine
All you gotta do is micro one worker 2 mins in and hes on tilt.
Why doesnt he go for battlecruisers against crazy zerg? I dont play broodwar
Battlecruisers are fairly expensive and take a while to build. By the time you can get them in fairly effective numbers the zerg player will typically have built a defiler or two. Said defilers can cast an ability called dark swarm that blocks any ranged damage to units under the cloud, rendering the battlecruisers attacks useless. The defilers can also use an ability called plague, which deals damage over time to any unit hit by it in an area. Air units like battlecruisers don't have much of a collision hitbox, so they will stack on top of each-other. This means one defiler can hit every single battlecruiser sometimes and knock them down by about half their health.
In effect engaging a crazy zerg player head on with battlecruisers as our ever turtling and inflexible Artosis typically does results in them dealing no damage and getting significantly damaged or destroyed by plague. A player who had some tactical flexibility would probably use Battlecruisers to flank behind the zerg army and damage their base while the zerg wale on their siege tank line, but even this is fairly difficult to do as crazy zerg players will typically heavily buff the armor of their army before committing to an attack. Also the zerg player can just build scourges which can kill the battlecruisers at half the cost in about a quarter of the build time.
RT confirms he's smarter than the pros
I just love Arty. I have no clue how Starcraft works, but is it possible he could win any of these games he just ragequits?
Probably not. He does ragequit a little early sometimes, but usually it's after a point where a comeback is very unlikely
TF2 scout my favorite streamer
scout gaming
"You remember the scout from TF2? That is him now. Feel old already?"
irradiate is a buff for an ultralisk *ha-ha-ha-ha*
nice
Why is he so angry all the time?
I can't believe the chat can't come up with a sound counter-strategy
BUT YOU WON ARTOSIS!!! WHY ARE YOU STILL RAGING!?
“I worked my ass off” -that’s his problem in a nutshell. He thinks the answer to crazy Zerg is to keep using the same unit comp “but do it harder” lollll. He refuses to evolve with the meta and actually attacks anyone who does as “not playing the game right”. As if macro’ing harder with a mismatched unit comp is going to fix it
Currently everyone is losing to Crazy Zerg, it's not really a case of just changing unit comps up. Because currently no Terran pros have an answer to it, they're all trying things but it's not really working right now.
@@ArtosisClips I’m a noob so this might be a dumb question, but it seems like Crazy Zerg requires the Zerg to turtle so much that they can never bust you until they get to late game. The most they can do is some muta harass. So why not tech up to BCs?
@@Mushroom1882 fully upgraded BCs can 1 shot scourge though? And dark swarm already makes the ultras/lings invincible to every Terran ground unit except firebats and tanks, so how are you any worse off with BCs, at least the BCs can’t be wrecked by the ultras and can fly over the sunkens to destroy Zerg production.
I hear your point that going bc would take so long that the Zerg gets to defiler, but with Crazy Zerg that’s already happening anyway cuz the sunks are shutting down the early game M+M
@@ArtosisClips Couldn't you stay bio but do a minimum tech investment to vulture mines? Mines would work under dark swarm, could be used as a back-line drop when all the zerg's focus is the front door to drop like a reaver into mineral line, a chain of them would likely delete or heavily wound an ultra, just have to either D-matrix it on drop or avoid being mine-dragged into your bio bubble, and vultures only cost minerals so gas investment is minimal beyond the startup cost of factory + Mshop
He needs to accept he is an better than average A rank player. He can not evolve with the meta and is just not flexible to make it to high S rank. That is why his go to excuse is always to call the other player bad or say I knew what he was gonna do yet I still played the loosing strategy into it but they are the bad players.
He's been S rank pretty consistently the past couple months, the meta just changed recently to one that Terran players don't have the answer for right now. No Terran pros are really able to deal with Crazy Zerg at the moment as a strategy.
@@ArtosisClips Do you guys leave your cult hivemind? Crazy zerg is over a decade old. "New strat that pros can't deal with" lmao, meanwhile the top like 10 players on ladder are Terran.
Stop listening to Artosis blame the game when he just sucks. Crazy zerg primarily profits off Terrans who are unsuccessful at being aggressive...which is literally textbook, turtle, grandpa micro Artosis.
Look how bad he is as I lose another game.
Flash joke
Hey Arty, since you play terran have you tried building a platform in the air and build there? Ultra's probably can't reach that, unless they patch the game and give them wings.
Jokes aside, have you tried goliath vessel with some unsieged tanks? I know it sounds weird, just an idea. Love your content Arty, salt and normal alike :)
Artosis, have you ever played Starcraft Burning Ground? It's awesome MOD for Starcraft Broodwar because most of the units were taken from Starcraft II, and I'm sure if you're going much frustrated when playing it for the first time because the AI so cheap. They even could train Elite Units which normally human player can't xD
What happened at the very end?
Looked like classic dt rush.
@@charlescook5542 seems like a pretty strong reaction to a dt rush lol
fick yopui
why does he call people shit that are clearly beating him?
lol stole your mom's credit card
The dilusion is strong with this one.
You just need to macro better
clown
world
you'd think this nerd would race switch with all the whine
The fact that he still loses often in TvT shows that his loses in TvP and TvZ arent just because the match up is broke
Yepp that makes sense. If the only match up was only P or Z I'd be on his side. And if it was a broken build.
I was the 777th viewer. Can i get prize?
Low a rank, like Artosis?
Should play sc2 it’s way better
I found him entertaining when he rages, but I find it annoying now, simply because I see how he makes really really bad choices and then complains all game. XD oh well I'm entertained at least