All 3 parts of the series are now up! Part 1: What is ProRes RAW - ruclips.net/video/eXPApYc6Id4/видео.html Part 2: How to Film ProRes RAW - ruclips.net/video/qDwilffCJgw/видео.html Part 3: Editing and Grading ProRes RAW - ruclips.net/video/Pc6Nt2UlTQw/видео.html If you enjoyed this series please subscribe! And/or check out my camera guides here: academy.dslrvideoshooter.com
DSLR Video Shooter Hi, like your Videos, could you pls do a compatison between the FS700 RAW (DNG) and the BMPCC 4K (DNG). Why? Both are interesting cameras. FS700 because of RAW, HighSpeed, ND Filters, XLRs and Battery Solution. The Pocket on the other Hand RAW, Color and Sizefactor. But which of them delivers better dynamic range and better color, that is the Question. Would like to see it on your channel. BG
I'm also loving having an "old" camera getting pimped by Atomos the whole time, that's the future, not changing everything the whole time, but updating capabilities - also the way to go ecologically for companies!
One thing to remember, at least this is a huge one for me, is not all raw output is the same. The EVA 1 is a 10bit raw output. That's one huge reason I love sony because they have 12bit raw output, up to 16bit raw output. They also have those nice color bit depths at HFRs too. Just a thought.
Eergonomics aside, I think you can get great images out of the FS700-RAW combo. That is why it's still relevant. As a cheapest option, probably many will look at it... Caleb, it would be VERY INTERESTING to see a detailed review on the FS700's dr, iso capabilities, best settings and limitations... THANKS for the great content Caleb. Keep up the good job, sir!
hell ya, I've had an early version of the FS700 and just got it back from Sony repair in Jersey and now it's 4K Raw!! I just did a test shot and it's about 2:11 long and the file in hq is 8 gigs! It looks insane!
Thanks so much Caleb! This is the shortest 12min video I've ever watched. More! Can't wait for part three and four. Btw, Netflix should hire and pay you do to videos like these. Perfect and concise.
Cannot believe how much things has changed in just 5 years. I just got a Nikon Z8. A small device that can do internal ProRes Raw at 4K 60P if I remember correctly.
The internal recording of the FS700 is Sh*t! But when you do external recording it's a BEAST! I think it's amazing that such an old camera still holds up to the standards of 2018. I love that camera!
beastbarr what is the best external recorder in your opinion. Is inferno the best match? I seen several but so far I have not pair it yet on my FS700 thanks for your help.
Revisiting this video 5 years later and boy were your predictions correct about more cameras coming soon with ProRes RAW support! I can shoot 4k60 RAW with my $2500 R6II and 8K/30 RAW on my $3300 R5, record it on my $500 Ninja V+, and easily edit the footage on a $500 Mac Mini. Filmmaking on a budget has come so so far in just 5 years. Even my iPhone has ProRes up to 4k30 now lol.
BTW, I wrote proresRAWHQ 4k DCI 60p on a cheap $120 512GB SSD from SanDisk, and it handles it without issues. And you don't need120 fps capability, It is buffered in the camera and goes out as 24p timeline (or 30/50/60, if you set this in camera settings)
I Love my fs700 - although oh do not has the raw update. It's a beautiful form factor and even couple years later I can upgrade it and get like you said a brand camera 😍
7:10 “media fast enough to handle the data” explains one thing to me; I take 3D video on my Nintendo 3ds and recently it’s telling me that it’s not able to write to the SD card at the appropriate speed- that means I need an SD card powerful enough for it to be written onto the Nintendo 3Ds 3D video
Hi - FANTASTIC Video! You mention at 9:35 you say you will have a separate video about the FS700 and the set up you use for all of its different capabilities..... soooooooo ..... Where is it????
I think this is the main reason you would want to buy the upcoming 4k blackmagic pocket cinema camera. Wayyy cheaper than all the other raw cameras that are currently out
Fingers x’d GH5 will have an update for HDMI export for pro res raw. Come on! If the DJI X7 can do it internally the gh5 can export it for external recording. SURELY!
if you look at the white paper on it the data rate isn't that high... so i don't see why its not possible, as long as panasonic buys a licence from apple for it.... but im no expert on hdmi/data rates
Nice videos. The DJI X7 requires an external recorder but in this instance the external recorder is the Inspire 2 airframe which has the built in CineCore 2 recording system. The camera itself has no ability to record internally at all.
Great video especially since I'm still pretty new to digital video. I have the Lumix G85 and have had some difficulties editing the cameras files and being able to successfully color grade them to my satisfaction. I am using the studio version of Davinci Resolve on a decent computer, so that's not the issue. So from what I understand is that I can use the clean HDMI out from the G85 which is 4:2:2 8 bit according to the specs, and record Prores or DNxHR onto the Atomos Ninja Inferno. I read that the GH5 works the same except the HDMI output is 10 bit. If all is true, then there are a lot more cameras that are capable.
Wow ! you explain so well ! Thank you for your work and I willl wait for the GH6 or GH7 to possibility of prores Raw ! I got 3 GH5 for now and Like everybody , waiting for the real spec of the black magic ciné 4K to see if we change for that !
Thanks for sharing, awesome video... I have the Sony FS700R and the Ninja 5.2 with the Atomos Connect with an SDI input of 12g and ProResRAW activated ,,,, but doesn't work. Any Idea? thanks
Great information presented very well. Thank you so much. Are there any cameras coming out in the future that you are looking forward to that will record ProRes RAW internally?
Caleb off subject but.. On the fs700. There's been plenty of interesting gimbals coming out. The moza X & the zhiyun lab 3. Any idea if those would pair well with an fs700? They seem like they may compared to current options. I'm just bringing it up because you may be one of the few people with interest/insight. Also I'm on edge about getting an fs700.
Awesome video, as usual, thanks.... BTW I think the Ninja V is capable to record proresraw but the problem there is not dslr camera that you can output that codec with hdmi, I hope they update the odyssey 7q+ also because I have the fs700 (good news for fs700 owners)... did you try any work around with the HDMI to SDI Converter?.. thanks againg for your videos
I really appreciate and love these very in these videos, you are helping me so much to learn these very awesome and professional skills! I have the FS5 and the Shogun Inferno, I'm about to get the raw upgrade and start diving into this very soon, I'm wondering if you have a recommendation for a good quality SDI cable? Merry Christmas brother!!! Thanks again for all the great videos!!
Hi Caleb, Thank you very much for all the useful infos. One short question (you might have a quick answer for): Is it a good idea to use Blackmagic Hyperdeck Studio HD Plus as the ProRes Raw (LT) recorder for a Sony FS700 (over SDI)? I could very well use the Hyperdeck for ATEM use cases as well. 🎩
Very thankful for this series, makes catching up very easy. Will you be going into the what the image out of the FS700 (via RAW) looks like/can look like? I've been on the fence about it for a while now. Its got all the specs but it still has that terrible colour science and I'm not sure if that will be a deal breaker fro me. PS: You're doing well with the sign off in this series, keep it up ;-)
Man, your vids look so good at lower res(720p). Been moving the browser between my two different monitors at 4k - 360p. Nice work. How does one balance the youTube compression and video export properly?
Hi Great video. Quick question. Which SDI cable should I get. Theres a lot of different types of SDI. Which one will be able to record 4k Prores RAW in 120fps ? thank you :)
Hey, you are doing very informative and relaxing videos :-) I have a FS700 as well in combination with the Odyssey 7Q+ recorder. It is limited to Rec709/Rec709-800%, Slog2 and RAW. The combo delivers great pictures but one downside is the noise level at ISO minimum 2000 with Slog2. My question: is the ISO free selectable with Prores RAW? So you could avoid the noise? Thanks!
Amazing helpful series! Well done! Great job. Keep up good work man. Got a question tough, with Sony FS-7 mkii , when wanna record ProRes Raw on A.Inferno , do we have to get SDI signal feed from Sony XDCA-FS7 Extension Unit ( recorder ) or can we get signal feed directly from the camera?
Thanks for the video! Great information there! Comming from RedCode is was asking my self that you are not able to change the color sience later right? so lets say you record in Slog2 you can´t go to cine4 when using sony for example. So its different from the raw I use on the Red but very impressive as I have seen in the shot of the fountain. Oh and by the way lucky for all the people that bought a fs700 when it came out. Still state of the art. Shot al lot on that camera back in the days. Its crazy that it still is in line with all the cameras and features in 2018. Love for the FS700!!!!
Hello! Thank you very much for the video! Have the same setup. Now my question, you film with the settings of the camera in S-Log 2 and with Iso 2000 THX
Hi Caleb. Will FS700R output HD via HDMI while outputing 4k via SDI? I’ve read the manual but there is only info about internal recording in HD while outputing 4k.
the burning question I have is: are you shooting in LOG? Should you? I shot in a modified cinegamma2 and in FCPX it initially came out looking like poo. Had to massage it to look good. I'm told you use ProReRAW in large part also to take advantage of HDR, which would of course require shooting in LOG. Thoughts?
kindly comment about nikon z6 prores raw with the ninja , is it the all great raw like red raw or market gimic was considering this feature to buy the z6 and not the sony a7iii
You mention at 9:35 you say you will have a separate video about the FS700 and the set up you use for all of its different capabilities..... soooooooo ..... Where is it????
Great series! Hey, do you think Atomos will come up with a firmware update for the Ninja Inferno to do ProRes RAW, or will it just be for the Ninja V? Thanks!
All 3 parts of the series are now up!
Part 1: What is ProRes RAW - ruclips.net/video/eXPApYc6Id4/видео.html
Part 2: How to Film ProRes RAW - ruclips.net/video/qDwilffCJgw/видео.html
Part 3: Editing and Grading ProRes RAW - ruclips.net/video/Pc6Nt2UlTQw/видео.html
If you enjoyed this series please subscribe! And/or check out my camera guides here: academy.dslrvideoshooter.com
DSLR Video Shooter Hi, like your Videos, could you pls do a compatison between the FS700 RAW (DNG) and the BMPCC 4K (DNG). Why? Both are interesting cameras. FS700 because of RAW, HighSpeed, ND Filters, XLRs and Battery Solution. The Pocket on the other Hand RAW, Color and Sizefactor. But which of them delivers better dynamic range and better color, that is the Question. Would like to see it on your channel. BG
DJI X5r shoot raw native
Hi, thanks for this video .
Do you think that a video assist 4k would work as the inferno?
Dude, you're killing it with this series. They're super helpful and you're as efficient as possible in getting the most important message out! Kudos!
Thank you RWE! Means a lot!!!
Killing it still
In 2022
It’s mind blowing how many things have changed since these videos came out.
And two years later, this puppy is part of the family now ;) Thanks to you. Wishing you the best in 2022~ 🔥
I'm also loving having an "old" camera getting pimped by Atomos the whole time, that's the future, not changing everything the whole time, but updating capabilities - also the way to go ecologically for companies!
Yeah! Someone else using an FS700/ Some days I feel like I'm the only one left using that cam. It's been really great with my Shogun Inferno.
Your videos are on point and easy to grasp. Thank you for the breakdown. Your videos are so crisp !
My FS-700 is still relevant which is kind of astonishing. Just my discontinued Odyssey 7Q is becoming the weakest link. Great stuff.
Love that you’re breaking this all down for us! Thank you!
One thing to remember, at least this is a huge one for me, is not all raw output is the same. The EVA 1 is a 10bit raw output. That's one huge reason I love sony because they have 12bit raw output, up to 16bit raw output. They also have those nice color bit depths at HFRs too. Just a thought.
Great points Levi! Definitely something to consider when choosing cameras.
current atomos shogun inferno records 10 bit.
Eergonomics aside, I think you can get great images out of the FS700-RAW combo. That is why it's still relevant. As a cheapest option, probably many will look at it... Caleb, it would be VERY INTERESTING to see a detailed review on the FS700's dr, iso capabilities, best settings and limitations... THANKS for the great content Caleb. Keep up the good job, sir!
This is so over the top for me and way out of my budget but still very interesting to learn about!
hell ya, I've had an early version of the FS700 and just got it back from Sony repair in Jersey and now it's 4K Raw!! I just did a test shot and it's about 2:11 long and the file in hq is 8 gigs! It looks insane!
Thanks so much Caleb! This is the shortest 12min video I've ever watched. More! Can't wait for part three and four. Btw, Netflix should hire and pay you do to videos like these. Perfect and concise.
Great video series!
Thanks boss!
Your channel is the most informative on youtube man.. Thank you for always taking the time to teach us your knowledge! You are much appreciated 🙏
Thank you SR!!!
Cannot believe how much things has changed in just 5 years. I just got a Nikon Z8. A small device that can do internal ProRes Raw at 4K 60P if I remember correctly.
The internal recording of the FS700 is Sh*t! But when you do external recording it's a BEAST! I think it's amazing that such an old camera still holds up to the standards of 2018. I love that camera!
beastbarr what is the best external recorder in your opinion. Is inferno the best match? I seen several but so far I have not pair it yet on my FS700 thanks for your help.
Roberto Cienfuegos I would say the inferno. Since it can record the new proress raw, and the user interface is fairly easy to understand :-)
beastbarr Thank You. Have a great day.
Yeah. I can not believe the results I'm getting via PRR out of the FS700. Incredible for the money.
DSLR Video Shooter perfect. I was looking the comparable Odyssey 7Q+ but so far with this ProRes Raw this is the best. Thanks
Thank you. you teach like a good teacher. I wish you have more and more of this kind of Video.
A heavenly color grading 👏👏👏
Revisiting this video 5 years later and boy were your predictions correct about more cameras coming soon with ProRes RAW support! I can shoot 4k60 RAW with my $2500 R6II and 8K/30 RAW on my $3300 R5, record it on my $500 Ninja V+, and easily edit the footage on a $500 Mac Mini. Filmmaking on a budget has come so so far in just 5 years. Even my iPhone has ProRes up to 4k30 now lol.
Hello from Bulgaria,
Very interesting videos.
I learn so many new things.
Tank you!
Thats a quick turn around for part 2. Thanks for the extra effort. Ry from Dubai
Thanks Ry!
Black magic raw for $1300 on the Pocket4k. Mic drop 🎤💥
Soooo informative Caleb! Keep it up, I love your channel and the work and passion you're putting into it.
Thanks Chris!
BTW, I wrote proresRAWHQ 4k DCI 60p on a cheap $120 512GB SSD from SanDisk, and it handles it without issues. And you don't need120 fps capability, It is buffered in the camera and goes out as 24p timeline (or 30/50/60, if you set this in camera settings)
Nice! I'll have to test my drives again. Some of mine didn't care much for PRR.
Same here. I use a $130 Samsung 860
I Love my fs700 - although oh do not has the raw update. It's a beautiful form factor and even couple years later I can upgrade it and get like you said a brand camera 😍
For $500 (I think) you can still get the update!
Thanks so much for the amazing videos as always Caleb! Been following you for years now and you help me out so much!
Great series thus far! Lovin' it!
7:10 “media fast enough to handle the data” explains one thing to me; I take 3D video on my Nintendo 3ds and recently it’s telling me that it’s not able to write to the SD card at the appropriate speed- that means I need an SD card powerful enough for it to be written onto the Nintendo 3Ds 3D video
Hi - FANTASTIC Video! You mention at 9:35 you say you will have a separate video about the FS700 and the set up you use for all of its different capabilities..... soooooooo .....
Where is it????
Yeah I will see it
This was sharp! Nice info!
Thank you !! i have been looking at this setup for months now
Love the combo. For the money it is incredible.
I think this is the main reason you would want to buy the upcoming 4k blackmagic pocket cinema camera. Wayyy cheaper than all the other raw cameras that are currently out
Fingers x’d GH5 will have an update for HDMI export for pro res raw. Come on! If the DJI X7 can do it internally the gh5 can export it for external recording. SURELY!
HDMI can raw?
if you look at the white paper on it the data rate isn't that high... so i don't see why its not possible, as long as panasonic buys a licence from apple for it.... but im no expert on hdmi/data rates
www.apple.com/final-cut-pro/docs/Apple_ProRes_RAW_White_Paper.pdf
biscuitsalive you are right, wait and see
That would be super great!
You're amazing caleb, love your work!
Thank you!
Great and inspiring video, though, good luck with yout new shooting options!
Nice videos. The DJI X7 requires an external recorder but in this instance the external recorder is the Inspire 2 airframe which has the built in CineCore 2 recording system. The camera itself has no ability to record internally at all.
Thanks for the video's Caleb! Just got a really nice FS700 RH complete camera for an amazing deal (1900) now saving up for the inferno ;-)
Color grade on point as hell in the talking head 🤘🤘🤘
Very much so. Would love to know camera and lens used for talking head.
Thanks Fly!
Shot this with the GH5s and vlog.
Helpful, thanks. There are some recorders, which can also handle PreRes Raw, for ex.: Convergent Odyssey .
we need an updated video for 2020
I agree, I'm watching this in 2024
Excellent video !
First class info well presented.
The blackmagic Ursa mini lineup also does internal prores raw.
That helps me allot. Thanx !!
nice video i learn a lot
Great video especially since I'm still pretty new to digital video. I have the Lumix G85 and have had some difficulties editing the cameras files and being able to successfully color grade them to my satisfaction. I am using the studio version of Davinci Resolve on a decent computer, so that's not the issue. So from what I understand is that I can use the clean HDMI out from the G85 which is 4:2:2 8 bit according to the specs, and record Prores or DNxHR onto the Atomos Ninja Inferno. I read that the GH5 works the same except the HDMI output is 10 bit. If all is true, then there are a lot more cameras that are capable.
Glad I held onto my old fs700
Great info, nicely done:)
You sir are awesome! :)
Great video man!
What Picture Profile are the best for shooting ProRes RAW and Cinema DNG on FS700?
I was waiting for this video, now that I see the prices, it’s clear that I need to revisit this type of upgrade in several years. 😭
Well, it's been several years...
Great job Bro as usual :D
Wow ! you explain so well ! Thank you for your work and I willl wait for the GH6 or GH7 to possibility of prores Raw ! I got 3 GH5 for now and Like everybody , waiting for the real spec of the black magic ciné 4K to see if we change for that !
Thanks for sharing, awesome video... I have the Sony FS700R and the Ninja 5.2 with the Atomos Connect with an SDI input of 12g and ProResRAW activated ,,,, but doesn't work. Any Idea? thanks
Great stuff!
Great information presented very well. Thank you so much. Are there any cameras coming out in the future that you are looking forward to that will record ProRes RAW internally?
The BMPCC 6k can record internally Pro Res 4096x2160; 3840x2160; 1920x1080; with film, extended video or custom 3D LUT
Caleb off subject but..
On the fs700.
There's been plenty of interesting gimbals coming out. The moza X & the zhiyun lab 3. Any idea if those would pair well with an fs700? They seem like they may compared to current options.
I'm just bringing it up because you may be one of the few people with interest/insight. Also I'm on edge about getting an fs700.
Really cool Series! can you make more?
Awesome video, as usual, thanks.... BTW I think the Ninja V is capable to record proresraw but the problem there is not dslr camera that you can output that codec with hdmi, I hope they update the odyssey 7q+ also because I have the fs700 (good news for fs700 owners)... did you try any work around with the HDMI to SDI Converter?.. thanks againg for your videos
watching it 1 year later, nothing has changed :(
NINJA has expansion pacs for SDI and ethernet.
I really appreciate and love these very in these videos, you are helping me so much to learn these very awesome and professional skills! I have the FS5 and the Shogun Inferno, I'm about to get the raw upgrade and start diving into this very soon, I'm wondering if you have a recommendation for a good quality SDI cable? Merry Christmas brother!!! Thanks again for all the great videos!!
Which Picture Profile should be chosen for the best dynamic range?
PP7 for Slog2
Thank you!
Another one 🔥
Great video! :) Can you please tell - what camera is used to film this episode?
Hi Caleb, Thank you very much for all the useful infos. One short question (you might have a quick answer for): Is it a good idea to use Blackmagic Hyperdeck Studio HD Plus as the ProRes Raw (LT) recorder for a Sony FS700 (over SDI)? I could very well use the Hyperdeck for ATEM use cases as well. 🎩
What about the Ursa Mini Pro with the atomos recorder?
Very thankful for this series, makes catching up very easy. Will you be going into the what the image out of the FS700 (via RAW) looks like/can look like? I've been on the fence about it for a while now. Its got all the specs but it still has that terrible colour science and I'm not sure if that will be a deal breaker fro me.
PS: You're doing well with the sign off in this series, keep it up ;-)
Can You please let me know is it worth buying this camera in 2022? What’s your view upon connecting it with Blackmagic monitor or recorder? 4K
Man, your vids look so good at lower res(720p). Been moving the browser between my two different monitors at 4k - 360p. Nice work. How does one balance the youTube compression and video export properly?
Best video
Love it! How long will that SSD last?
Hey did you end up doing the FS700 RAW outputs video?
I can't seem to find it.
Love your work.
Thanks :)
Is Inferno the best match for my FS700 ? Thanks
Hi Great video. Quick question. Which SDI cable should I get. Theres a lot of different types of SDI. Which one will be able to record 4k Prores RAW in 120fps ? thank you :)
Thanks dude. Helpful. Can the a7riii record prores raw to atomos?
Ninja5 now has an sdi module. Can a new blackmagic video assist 12g work with an fs700?
Hey, you are doing very informative and relaxing videos :-) I have a FS700 as well in combination with the Odyssey 7Q+ recorder. It is limited to Rec709/Rec709-800%, Slog2 and RAW. The combo delivers great pictures but one downside is the noise level at ISO minimum 2000 with Slog2. My question: is the ISO free selectable with Prores RAW? So you could avoid the noise? Thanks!
Can you send me the link about the Sony fs700? Also is there an angled shutter option on the fs700?
Amazing helpful series! Well done! Great job. Keep up good work man.
Got a question tough, with Sony FS-7 mkii , when wanna record ProRes Raw on A.Inferno , do we have to get SDI signal feed from Sony XDCA-FS7 Extension Unit ( recorder ) or can we get signal feed directly from the camera?
Thanks for the video! Great information there! Comming from RedCode is was asking my self that you are not able to change the color sience later right? so lets say you record in Slog2 you can´t go to cine4 when using sony for example. So its different from the raw I use on the Red but very impressive as I have seen in the shot of the fountain.
Oh and by the way lucky for all the people that bought a fs700 when it came out. Still state of the art. Shot al lot on that camera back in the days. Its crazy that it still is in line with all the cameras and features in 2018. Love for the FS700!!!!
Hello! Thank you very much for the video! Have the same setup. Now my question, you film with the settings of the camera in S-Log 2 and with Iso 2000 THX
Great video! Do you have a full review for the FS700?
Yep!
Hi Caleb. Will FS700R output HD via HDMI while outputing 4k via SDI? I’ve read the manual but there is only info about internal recording in HD while outputing 4k.
the burning question I have is: are you shooting in LOG? Should you? I shot in a modified cinegamma2 and in FCPX it initially came out looking like poo. Had to massage it to look good. I'm told you use ProReRAW in large part also to take advantage of HDR, which would of course require shooting in LOG. Thoughts?
With regards to recording prores raw, what about the Blackmagic Video Assist? I currently using this with Nikon D810 and works fine with me.
kindly comment about nikon z6 prores raw with the ninja , is it the all great raw like red raw or market gimic was considering this feature to buy the z6 and not the sony a7iii
will Sony FS700 prices now spike like old Mac Pros? Keeping an eye on this for sure!
do you need to purchase a raw ProRes license from Apple prior to being able to use the raw ? Thanks
Will the inferno flame work with recording prores raw?
I want to know what software do you use ？thank you
You mention at 9:35 you say you will have a separate video about the FS700 and the set up you use for all of its different capabilities..... soooooooo .....
Where is it????
Hi, any new prores latest cams
Great series! Hey, do you think Atomos will come up with a firmware update for the Ninja Inferno to do ProRes RAW, or will it just be for the Ninja V? Thanks!
How do i get the Raw upgrade for the Sony NEX-FS700
9:35 Did you ever do a video on this camera and its raw features?
Allllllllllrightyyyyyyy thennnnnnn