Ok, there seems to be a lot of people interested in the LAN performance, and whether or not these work well if I place them on a different circuit and breaker. If you want me to do another test with this and focus on LAN speed (yes, I was most interested in Internet connection in this room, not LAN... considering anything I would use for this PC is already in the same room) then hit like on this comment.
could you also do a followup where you examine how the power line adapter works when you go from like the router to a far end of the house? kinda curious...
+JayzTwoCents i was waiting for the lan performance, ive just moved into my new house and am trying to work out my networking solutions too. Have had good success with powerlines in the past, and mine were much cheaper than yours, and bought years ago, be interesting to see what improvements tp link has actually made. Hope you make this video keep up the good work mate.
yeah... diddnt even think about the outlet hookup so i drilled a hole through my wood floor dropped 3 ethernet cables to my basement for all my gaming needs
+Taylor Burrow Yup i did the a similar thing at my house, but 100% i would choose Ethernet over these. Not only because it is cheaper but there can be limitations when it comes to LAN speeds.
+Taylor Burrow did something similar myself. I live in a student dorm and was not liking the internet connection, so I got a new coax cable, ran it from the first floor (ground floor, second floor and attic is where we needed internet) through the ceiling (had to drill a hole through a wall and ceiling for that) and put the modem on the second floor. I then ran four lan cables through the floor to their rooms. The modem had wifi, so that was better, but just because I removed the cheap router my house had, I had vastly improved the connection and speed and the wifi was so much better. Was a lot of work, but was kind of fun as it was the first time I really worked with ethernet and coax cables.
On the topic of powerline quality. The house I live in was build in 1955 (still original wiring) and my accesspoint is in the basement. My PC is on the 3rd floor and I'm using a 40€ powerline adapter. But despite all this I'm still getting my full 50 down and 5 up.
If your primary speed concerns are based on your ISP speed, you probably don't need gigabit powerline ethernet adapters. You could go for slower but cheaper ones. But gigabit adapters are good for in-house sharing from NAS etc. I wonder how much of Jays problems before were actually due to the technology being so young at the time rather than his house wiring. I also would have liked to see him try the powerline ethernet plugged in next to his router and testing if the distance really did make any difference.
There is more to it than just faster speed. What I found is that although the adapters don't offer the fastest speed, it does offer a more consistent connection. Where Wifi will fluxate a lot. I also did an update of the adapter's firmware, which TP Link makes really easy to do. Great explanation on your part on how it works and factors to consider when setting it all up.
@@elliotnordstrom6467 I have also an set up in my house. The wire "quality" isn't that big of a deal. Most wires are just 3 copper wires with some rubber, more important are other factors. So the only way to test these is to buy it and return them if you aren't happy with how good these work in your house.
@@staples4335 I'm also running cable 150 down 10 up. But I got no Ethernet wired up into my room and I have a huge house so I have 17mbps down and like 4mbps up in my room.
I'm in the UK, so our internet is much slower, but I've got BT powerline adaptors giving me internet down in the summerhouse, 25 yards from the router, I only lose 4mb/s over being plugged directly into the router. The kit I got also creates WiFi hotspots at the powerline connection points. With the kit I bought, that means wireless at the transmitter, then a hotspot/Ethernet connection in my stepsons room upstairs and the same at the bottom of the garden in the summerhouse (my studio/gaming room in the summer). Thanks for the channel Jay, I learn't enough from you to assemble my own PC (7850k kaveri) on a very very tight budget late last year, I'm now looking to assemble a similar rig for my stepson and a higher spec AMD based machine for myself, the current machine my two toddlers love playing lego games on.
@JayzTwoCents I actually went through this comparison yesterday. I live in a apartment and use a powerline. I upgraded to 1Gb Internet and the power line only did a 50d and 70u while I plugged in a AC wireless adapter and got 300Mbps up and down. I can say big things if you want to use PowerLine, make sure you are on the same circuit which helps your speed, also NEVER plug it into a surge protector. Awesome video though Jay!
I think I may try this (and do a video if results are interesting) to see if it performs better than wireless and access point in my apartment, as I have trouble in my apartment. Thanks, Jay!!
as a field tech, we get netgear powerline adapters, and I have had some interesting results. I found that it depends also on if the two electrical outlets are on the same side of the breaker box in your home. some outlets are not compatible. I have used them for people with large houses with their modem in their basement (hardline for work servers) and powerline upstairs for their router for great results!
Dave Starr physical diverence in distance is relative. If two rooms are side by side but the electrical are on two different circuits then the signal will go from one adapter to the load center (circuit panel) and then to the other(s) adapters.
As a note about the wireless router and the wall adapter. Wireless is Half Duplex and CSMA/CA (Carrier Sense Multiple Access / Collision Avoidance), where as the Wall adapter is Full Duplex and CSMA/CD. This means that your wireless adapter and your wireless router can only speak or listen. It can not do both. This cuts your bandwith roughly in half, even worse if you have multiple end nodes communicating with said router. So if your ISP is telling you 50, expect no more then between 20 to 30, and even less if there is other devices. Full Duplex devices can communicate in both directions at the same time, just sometimes, you get collisions. Wall adapters also have about a 100m distance of use, about the same as a Cat5e. But there is some negatives to using them. Interference is the major one, as you described on the video. Another negative, is power strips and surge protectors. If you use wall adapters, don't have power strips connected to the same plug. Power strips and surge protectors cancel spikes in electricity. It mellows them out. Computers read those spikes as 0s and 1s. Great video btw.
With the rise of box streaming, Powerline adapters are great for people who can't otherwise drill into their walls/floors/ceilings/etc. like myself, as I rent. While I'm not getting full wired speed with mine, I get about double what my wireless gives with a LOT more stability. Thanks to the adapter I can stream via SteamLink from upstairs to downstairs with almost no latency. One thing to remember with them is to not slack on buying a cheapie Powerline adapter- the cheap, lower speed ones are damn useless. To really see a return on your effort (especially with gaming) you really need to be on 1200+.
My brother in laws house is an old Victorian with lath & plaster walls. The wireless simply could not punch through so many thick walls between floors, and even with the old wiring the Power line adapters were perfect for that old house. I tell everyone with dead-zone rooms to invest on Power-line adapters...they work. Just any FYI the Ethernet plug goes into an old wiring outlet on the other side of the old house. And the outlet that receives is in a brand-new extension room with new wiring. It all still works fine even having to traverse different circuits and going into the circuit breaker box.. If you have dead-zone rooms were the solutions all seem bad... try Power-line units. They are simple, fast and they work like a charm
I've installed a lot of those TP-link kits of various models for my clients, they work beautifully. The wi-fi extender versions are the most simple to set up of those types too with a quick wi-fi clone button to connect to your existing router. Had so much more success with those than with other brands.
Wow, that's actually fairly impressive. I would say newer houses would do better, but wow. I always assumed powerline was a bad idea, but it appears to work! o_O
From what i have seen !! Read and have been told as well as personal experience!! Its always best and at time critical that the 2 powerline adapters are both on the same circuit!!! This is more important than anything else !!! Distance is not to big a factor if the circuit is at least the same !!! A lot of the manufacturers even recommend this in there setup instructions!!!!
Just a note: Your electrical runs from the outlet to the panel. then from the panel out. Unless you happened to put them on the same circuit, it doesn't matter how "far" away they are. You could have two rooms next to each other and it be the farthest in terms of electrical travel. Unless, of course, they are on the same circuit. But, if you are having internet issues across distance, chances are the outlet you are using to send the signal is not going to be on the same circuit. So, it doesn't matter.
Thank you for posting. I ended up just buying a simple 75' flat Ethernet cable from Amazon for $13, comes in white to match the walls, took 20 mins to pull the carpet n run it. If you have Comcasts pos arris gateway, just hardwire everything. I was getting .01 mb/s to no connection.... now around 28-35mb/s, and not going insane switching every conceivable router setting. Download wifi analyzer and you'll see how many devices and what channel everyone around you is using.
jay! you should have realized that the shortest route from A to B is not necessarily the two closest points in space. the power lines in your house are all meeting up at the breaker box. unbeknownst to you, you could have placed the two adapters as "far" as possible from each other. or, you if you did think about it, you should have said something.
***** true. but IMO, it is still worth a mention. i know of more houses that use room segregation for power breakers. rather than wall segregation or shared room.
Powerline has been a life saver for me. Having an office at the opposite side of the house, I've been able to add a D-Link powerline adapter in the office and one beside the breaker where my router is. I'm getting 50-55mbps download speeds (quoted for 50mbps from provider so a tad more even!) So highly recommended for those wanted to hardline their internet or LAN (especially for streaming media).
I've been usimg powerline adapters off and on forma few years. I'm very happy with the speed and stability. Both behind the same circuit box and through a couple of boxes. More speed when going through no circuit boxes, but still work just fine through two as well in a time of need.
I have a set that I use for an old pc that I use to run a Minecraft server. It doesn’t have a WiFi card and I can’t get a cable to it, so I got one of these for free from a my grandpa who was moving. Works great
I have a large house built on century old hardwood (we're talking 4x12 beams and 4 x16). I gave up on Powerline adapters for my main computers, it was always temperamental, working well then slow, then fast then slow... on and on and on. Now I passed a lan cable from the basement to the 2nd floor work room and left the powerline for the kids computers, it is much better that way. Also, I found that a good $100 router with 5G works even better than the Powerline through the walls when less than 20 ft away. The best is still wonderful Cat5e or Cat6. The holes and patch job was definitely worth it.
Powerline adapters are something that have interested me for some time but like you last time I tried them I got horrible results and nothing ever synced up or the connection was unreliable. I want to try again with a better brand since the one I used was seriously as cheap as they got.
+Barnacules Nerdgasm Personally I'm using some tp link 500mbs to stream my steam link - never had a problem and they also do wireless on the adapters - my steam link is literally like being at my pc and I use it for day long sessions. Overall was really impressed with them (esp considering I have a top of the line wireless router).
+Barnacules Nerdgasm It can vary. I have 4 adapters in my house, 3 work great and one that is in the most distant part of the house is quite flaky, sometimes to the point of bringing the entire network down due to some kind of a conflict. It's all easy to fix, though, and quite worth it.
+Barnacules Nerdgasm The last ten years I must have spent €1,000 at least on various wi-fi routers. When as a last ditch hail-mary I tried Powerline about 4years ago and it was literally like a eureka moment. Then I was really pissy that no one told me before then about POWERLINE! Esp. for gaming. I've everything wired now. Only devices that use wifi are phones/tablets. The stability and speeds ensure that my main systems will never be using wi-fi again. But like you guys said, I may have lucked out with my house's wiring.
In our house we use powerline adapters. It's an old house and we're renting; running ethernet cables everywhere wasn't on our agenda so we got these things as an alternative to the awfully occupied wifi signal in our area. Short story is, they're GREAT. Speeds are fast and steady. It's also super easy to expand and add more to the network.
Actually just got a few of these work. Have some older buildings that they wouldn't let us rewire properly, so to get a connection to a separate section tossed one of these in and it's working perfectly.
I had a set of these that I tossed on the junk pile until we rewired my house. I have fiber in my from yard thus insane internet cheap here . 100Mbps down/50Mbps up for $59 a month. So before rewiring I couldn't get a stable ping. After watching this I dug these out and am getting 95% of the speed in the basement as I was getting at the computer upstairs. Way more than the Wii ever needs. Mine are older and don't have the pass through so I lose an outlet. We had been running the Wii off wireless but that has a few drop outs. The computer and Wii internet access outlet are on the same circuit breaker. Thanks Jay for saving the trouble of running Ethernet cable to the basement. I know it is just drilling a hole thru the floor but this was much easier. **I fell asleep in dialysis so I didn't get thru many of your other videos. I will try again on Friday. Who needs sleeping pills when you have Jay going on about people hogging gym machines... Thanks for the video and keep up the good work...
I use a budget version of these, and while there is some degradation it still works great on the complete other side of the house. Much better than my wireless is. I would definitely suggest trying these to anyone with networking woes where wireless just doesn't work for you.
Really glad you did this video, this summer I'm redoing the whole internet setup at my house and this was one solution I was having a hard time deciding on. Thanks Jay!
I've been using Homeplugs since just about when it was still a prototype. I live in a poorly built 30 year old home. I have had numerous routers die on my network (about twice the size of your network). And the only things that went wrong were: 1) At first I literally had a prototype that was not meant for consumers, and it worked very well for 2 years after which it had died (but mind you that was just the prototype). 2) I now use something similar to what you bought and about once every 6-12 months it will lose the connection between them and I'll have to unplug it and plug it back in. So IMO this is a great product, and a much better solution than WiFi when it comes to performance, though at the cost of some convenience (you shouldn't put it on a splitter, if you put it on certain breakers it won't play that well, etc.)
+pcfreak1992 Exactly. The 16 wifi vs 60 powerline Mbps is misleading. The powerline adapter is probably more like 30x - 50x faster than the wireless. Clearly the wireless was topping out at the 16 Mbps on the local link to the router.
+totoritko Obviously if the wireless is crapping out on the internet, I dont give a crap what the LAN speed is. I spend most of my time on the net, not on my NAS.
+pcfreak1992 not sure if this is a testament to internal speeds at the time, i lived in a condo in a high rise building a few years back and we tried a powerline kit from that timeframe from my condo to his condo to share internet, i had 100/100 fios internet and he was able to get around 55-65 out of the 100mb connection, between our condos in the same building...
***** Sure, but then you really don't need a 1 gig powerline anyway, or you could spend way less money and get a cheaper, slower model. Maybe even a simple wireless extender would do the job. The 1 gig comes into play *exactly* when hi-def streaming locally or when transferring large files. That's when the difference really comes to life. Not trying to say you're misleading on purpose, only that the test could have been done a bit better, IMHO. Anyway, keep up the great work and best wishes!
***** btw, not to just seem to be running my mouth, here's a suggestion for network performance testing: try netperf. It's an open-source utility that measures raw link throughput between any two machines. Here's a super quick summary of how to use it: dev-loop.net/2011/05/measuring-network-throughput-in-windows/ Yeah, it's a command-line utility, but I've no doubt you've got the tech smarts to use it. And it'll help you eliminate any variability of your ISP, the speed testing website's servers and generally most things beyond your control. Hope this helps.
I'm using TPLink powerline adapters all over my house and they work great! (My kids finally stopped complaining about the internet on their gaming rigs) The house has way too many walls in it so I also attached a separate WiFi router off of one of the powerlink adapters in part of the house that had 0 WiFi before and now it's perfect too.. TPLink has been awesome for my needs. (Wiring in the house is from 1973)
it doesn't make a whole lot difference.. I have had power line for the last 3 years 2 different house.... distance is not that important as long as you don't live in Beckingham Palace
2.4 wifi card < Power Adapter (provided house is fairly new and circuitry is clean) < 5g wifi with a non ISP (aka cheap) provided router < Ethernet is my experience with it and I was satisfied. I'd recommend these for any home that you rent. Otherwise if you own the house and desire fast connections in several rooms run a centralized switch to provide each room with ethernet simply by replacing the coax or telephone lines in older homes with CAT 6 or better the modem and your router/switches should where your hot is coming in from the ISP. Not only does it increase accessibility and speeds but helps resale cost more than you would think in today's market.
I have a powerline adapter and its awful, it disconnects at least 10 times a day but I don't have a choice because the Router is downstairs, Do not recommend, just use wired
+xRsAtx Have you though the unit might be faulty ? or there is another device on the mains that is chucking noise out which is causing the loss of sync for the devices ?
Jay, another thing to think about is that just because the other room is nearby does not mean that the wiring is the closest. The main adapter in room x has to go through the wiring, back to the power panel and than out to the other adapter in room x (Unless the adapters are on the same power line and not having to go back to through the power panel.
+BadDriversofCentralFlorida oke :P ive got 70 - 80 Mb/s down and 19 - 20 Mb/s up. and thats with there normal package ( 80 Mb/s ) i can buy the 400 Mb/s but is costs 70 euro´s a month xD
Those powerline adapters not only work on different breakers, but will even work on completely different panels. I have a detached garage that has a separate electrical entrance from my house. I hooked one adapter up in my house near my breaker panel, the other adapter in my garage near it's fuse panel, and it worked. And just to be clear, in not talking about a pony panel where the garage is fed from the house. The signal would have had to go through my house breaker panel, out to the utility pole, and then into the garage, and through it's fuse panel. The speed was definitely lower, something around 40mbit if I recall correctly, but the garage isn't in reach of a normal WiFi router, and I haven't dug a trench for running Ethernet out there yet, so it's good enough for now.
As a holder of a HAM radio license, I am obligated to note that these things create a lot of radio noise. That said, I gave one to a friend who rented a place he couldn't put any holes in and it worked great for his purposes. The one downside he noted was that latency was lower than ethernet and (in his case) wifi.
I used power line adapters in my old 2 story house, no cat5/6 and it worked great. Never regretted it, much better that I could get with wifi. Nice overview, and matched my results as well.
i live in a rented apartment with a dozen other wireless networks in the building with solid brick walls so my powerline adaptor is a godsend. Absolutely no loss compared to plugging straight into the router.
I have used ether net over power line connections for many years and find them very satisfactory. Started out using TP-link Model? then switched to Dlink DHP 700AV and found them more satisfactory. I only need to push things to 20Mbs as I have an extremely slow ISP. But in our former house, in Oddawa, where we had 100Mbs service I found the speed a bit lacking. So since my gaming setup was on the 2nd floor beside the stairs I ran a long USB cable... and dropped an antenna down to the room where the wifi base was. That worked well. But I only tended to use that rig when doing a big download from a fast server, otherwise it was less messy to just use the powerline. I tend to find that most servers are half fast and only pump out less than 10Mbs. My current Dlink serves a printer on the 2nd floor and my gaming computer in the basement. If I try wifi to the basement the antenna in the basement is only about 12 feet or less from my base wifi station. My wife strength is fine -30 to -55dbm, if I do a bit of juggling with antenna placement. B ut I find the signal just periodically drops out for minutes at a time now and then. Must be interference because other computers through out the house do not have that problem. Just a perspective from a dumb Canuck.
This is exactly the type of Powerline video I have been looking for. I have been debating is powerline adapters were a good way to get my network into my livingroom. My house is as old as Jayz Previous home (50+ years old) and the wiring from that time likely won't support good powerline networking. Thanks Jay!
I love powerline adapters, they let my brother from the other side of my house get the full speed of the internet and it also powers by entire camera system in the house. And a side note my house was made in the 60's, so quality of my wires in my house seem to have held up nicely by the looks of it.
I'll give you an example. My flat is kinda eloganted and the other end has no internet, I tried chaining wifi extenders but most I got was 20mbps down from 400mbps. The building was made in 60s so I was skeptical about powerline adapters but I decided to try. It took 5 min to install and I got 100mbps download 80mbps upload, I am happy
what is this!? I was hoping for a decent review but instead we had a lackluster comparison between two different technologies; of course it's Fibre > Ethernet > Powerline > WiFi... but also putting the powerline in the "next room" seems pretty dumb, people that are buying powerline obviously don't have a better (Ethernet) option so... then there's the issue of how the electrician put the power cabling in your walls, if it's a star wiring and you're on a different strand of cable coming from the circuit breakers, it doesn't matter if the "room is close" since the signal will travel up the cable back to the breaker then down the cable from the breaker to the other powerline adapter... then the final thing was testing using speedtest on your internet connection... WOW... just copy a few large files a few times (timing each copy) and run ping in command window... I mean you can include a Speedtest for the lels but why... oh well. also 5GHz is faster if you're in the same room or have very flimsy walls and are not far from the router... which brings me to last point... you didn't even tell us what router you were connected to... that's a LARGE oversight when you're doing a speed test between 2 radios (the router and your WiFi adapter)
+thedreadedgman he did a complete video showing how the Wi-Fi is setup in his home, a Router at the core of his network, which is pretty far away from that machine in his home.
Jay unless your babies room is on same the circuit as your studio it doesn't matter how far away the room is. The signal will travel from the babies room out to your breaker box where it meets up with the common bus then will go back in through the breaker to the garage's circuit and ride that line out to the garage. In a scenario where your breaker box is on the other side of the house it may be better to set it up at the far end since the signal will only need to travel the distance of the house once instead of 2 times.
Speedtest used different servers for the test. Can change significantly even on lan if you change servers. Look at bottom right of the test and make sure its on the same sever for the test.
I just did some testing and I was very surprised. The "source" adapter is connected in the basement, I'm two floors above it. When I did speed tests I was still able to get 100Mbs (ISP cap) up and down simultaneously. For a 200Mbs kit it is pretty good. The software that came with it estimates that the link should be able to transfer 150Mbs.
Normally jayz reviews are good, but this one was horrible... Comparing apples and oranges with wirelss vs powerline wired.... And then testing internet speeds lol. I mean.. Wtf most lazy useless review ever. How about testing powerline adapter on different locations in house and compare. . You said having powerline adapt inother end of house would be bad... Maybe test and show that. I dont think so. I have use powerline adapters before over significant distance without problems. Note about powerline adapters have to be on same circut breaker in house for exampe. Also some powerline adapters come with wifi supported, good idea for access point in another part of house instead of drawing fiber there.
+David Larsen I thought this too. To say it makes a difference where you place it in the house, and then to not bother doing a quick "here is what happened when the powerline adapters were on opposite sides of the house instead of just vertically adjacent rooms" was a let down.
+David Larsen I agree. He should also test for latency and jitter between his client device and gateway to get an idea of consistency and reliability of the link. I remember Linus doing a similar WiFi vs PowerLine vs Ethernet test way back when and according to his results WiFi offered lower latency when compared to PowerLine. I wonder whether that has changed considering advancements PowerLine adapters have made in past few years.
I just purchased one of these Power Line set ups for my daughters house she just purchased. It worked well into the room that is going to be her office, I get greedy and started playing with it. I took it to her out building a 2 car garage that will end up a man cave it is around 150 feet from the house. I got 50 mps in the house (cable direct from router giver her just over 100) and in the garage I still got 35 mps which is more than enough for netflix and stuff like that he would want to do out there while he tinkers. I like them, in our house I drilled holes into the walls and floors and ran cat5, that was a pain.
POwerline adapters work way better than Wireless. Proponents of wireless are just hipsters who like to say crap like Wi-Fi. Wireless has always been hit or miss and very testy. My mothers house was built in 1942 and her cable input is the se corner of her basement, her computer is in the NW side on the 3rd floor. Powerline was flawless and she gets an avg of 60 down 3.5-4.5 up. Jay don't let hipsters try and steer ya wrong I had AT&T wireless internet and only powerline adapters allowed me to play online games Wifi was only 25 and giving me 400+ pings that Powerline had down to the 70-80's. Wireless is just a gimmick and good for facebook and tweeting but if you're a gamer you need ethernet or at least a powerline adapter.
+CR80442 You wont regret it. I was using my mobo wifi chip for nearly a year and got shit reception. Upgraded the modem to a £100 one and that was AWESOME. Then used a power line like this and my internet is flawless now.
Thank you for pointing out that Theme, ich checked my own System and realised i was only on 16 of 50MB over WLAN, i now updated to Powerline wich brings me 49 of 50MB. Keep up the good Work, a view more videos and i am buying a custom Loop ;D
Jayz - about those power connectors I dont really think that it matters where you place them - if you have sequential power sockets than yes it would matter but that is never ever the case with modern build houses since if one power outlet burns all following outlets will stop working as well - so no matter where you are in the house the power adapters should allways go to the power distribution box from the first adapter and then all the way from the box to the 2-nd power outlet - one trick with those is that you must allways be in the same power box if your house has 2 of them you wouldnt be able to use them - atleast that is what i've found
It's so fun that people still call this wired.... It transmits the data trough the wires as a radio signal... Even when I rewired my whole house with new wires it still can't beat a complete wired system!
***** i said + i just said 56+ cuz i'm certain the house is over that age at least extra info: some of the electrical wires are still inside metal pipes (not plastic)
I like the power option have been using it for awhile over a wireless signal.Mostly cause of the hard wire option vs the sniff ability of wireless.Good work as always, Jay sir.
In Serbia there is this one provider that offers download=upload speeds up until 60/60 and the prices are not that bad, 60/60 version is arround 50 euros, thats approx 60 usd. Oh yeah there s a catch, they only operate in ONE municipality of ONE city in the whole country. I'm 150km away from all that glory,or course 😀
My uncle tried to get me into a power line setup cause i no longer have to run a 100ft cable from where the router is and to my room. sadly this house was built in the 70s i believe which would mean power line setup might not be best. now i can show him this video so he can understand that just running the cable works just fine.
My friend had terrible internet download speeds, over two weeks of download for GTA V. I actually suggested he get the powerline adapters, and his ping was halved and download speed increased by 25+ mbps. If you have extremely bad internet, I'd say these adapters would be a great help for you
I am using TP-link powerline adapters, aside from it rarely randomly disconnect once in a few months, it runs perfectly other times quite happy with the result.
Lovin the video as always Jay :) I've been using TP Link for a number of years works like a dream. I have mine plugged in next to my router in my bedroom and the other outlets for my wife's computer in the kitchen and mine in the extension.
Use powerline adapters myself..just to put a wireless router in middle of my apartment. Works good for me, boosted 5GHz band to cover every room better.
In my experience neither option worked very well. A lot of houses don't have Ethernet, but many have better coax coverage. In that case, MoCA is definitely the way to go. Just being able to put another wireless access point on a second floor can make a huge difference.
If your getting a lot of interference then it might be a good idea to lower your RX (and maybe even TX) on your router, that will reduce the crosstalk on WiFi in heavy WiFi traffic areas. I've seen that help a lot in apartments. Another thing to check is which bands are more free. I use WiFi Analyzer on Android and walk around the entire area, just because you have one channel more open right by the router doesn't mean that channel isn't congested on the other side of your house.
60 second non skipable ad from youtube, and then a 50 second ad from jay at the start. Can't wait for the other 50 second ad at the end of the video. Fucking hell.
Ok, there seems to be a lot of people interested in the LAN performance, and whether or not these work well if I place them on a different circuit and breaker. If you want me to do another test with this and focus on LAN speed (yes, I was most interested in Internet connection in this room, not LAN... considering anything I would use for this PC is already in the same room) then hit like on this comment.
+JayzTwoCents Pretty awesome. Thanks for answering this big question I have had for years. Will check out a powerline adapter this weekend. :)
could you also do a followup where you examine how the power line adapter works when you go from like the router to a far end of the house? kinda curious...
+JayzTwoCents LAN speed, please.
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+JayzTwoCents i was waiting for the lan performance, ive just moved into my new house and am trying to work out my networking solutions too. Have had good success with powerlines in the past, and mine were much cheaper than yours, and bought years ago, be interesting to see what improvements tp link has actually made. Hope you make this video keep up the good work mate.
yeah... diddnt even think about the outlet hookup so i drilled a hole through my wood floor dropped 3 ethernet cables to my basement for all my gaming needs
+Taylor Burrow If my shop was in the basement I would have probably done the same thing
+Taylor Burrow Yup i did the a similar thing at my house, but 100% i would choose Ethernet over these. Not only because it is cheaper but there can be limitations when it comes to LAN speeds.
+Taylor Burrow did something similar myself. I live in a student dorm and was not liking the internet connection, so I got a new coax cable, ran it from the first floor (ground floor, second floor and attic is where we needed internet) through the ceiling (had to drill a hole through a wall and ceiling for that) and put the modem on the second floor. I then ran four lan cables through the floor to their rooms. The modem had wifi, so that was better, but just because I removed the cheap router my house had, I had vastly improved the connection and speed and the wifi was so much better.
Was a lot of work, but was kind of fun as it was the first time I really worked with ethernet and coax cables.
why 3 cables?? you can get away with 1 cable and a switch.
+Max I've done that but having little switches everywhere makes things messy and adds failure points.
On the topic of powerline quality.
The house I live in was build in 1955 (still original wiring) and my accesspoint is in the basement.
My PC is on the 3rd floor and I'm using a 40€ powerline adapter. But despite all this I'm still getting my full 50 down and 5 up.
My house was built in ‘75 and I get my 140 down and 12 up
what powerline adapter
Thats pretty fucking impressive. Im defo getting one.
Could you run a test and see how it performs on the opposite end of the house?
You should have done a worst case with the powerline adapter and set them on far sides of the house.
If your primary speed concerns are based on your ISP speed, you probably don't need gigabit powerline ethernet adapters. You could go for slower but cheaper ones. But gigabit adapters are good for in-house sharing from NAS etc. I wonder how much of Jays problems before were actually due to the technology being so young at the time rather than his house wiring. I also would have liked to see him try the powerline ethernet plugged in next to his router and testing if the distance really did make any difference.
There is more to it than just faster speed. What I found is that although the adapters don't offer the fastest speed, it does offer a more consistent connection. Where Wifi will fluxate a lot. I also did an update of the adapter's firmware, which TP Link makes really easy to do. Great explanation on your part on how it works and factors to consider when setting it all up.
I use a powerline from the second floor of my house all the way through to the guest house where there is no wifi. Runs like a champ
Chad Valencia I know you posted this 3 years ago but is your house ”new” and with that how good are (do you think) your wires?
@@elliotnordstrom6467 I have also an set up in my house. The wire "quality" isn't that big of a deal. Most wires are just 3 copper wires with some rubber, more important are other factors. So the only way to test these is to buy it and return them if you aren't happy with how good these work in your house.
your upload is faster than my download speed
Strayan internet : /
+SuperMadcow99 unless you have been blessed by the pope and have NBN that works hahahha
I know lmao
It’s cause we’re upside down
@@Slot1Gamer I'm running cable. 55 down 5 up.
@@staples4335 I'm also running cable 150 down 10 up. But I got no Ethernet wired up into my room and I have a huge house so I have 17mbps down and like 4mbps up in my room.
I'm in the UK, so our internet is much slower, but I've got BT powerline adaptors giving me internet down in the summerhouse, 25 yards from the router, I only lose 4mb/s over being plugged directly into the router. The kit I got also creates WiFi hotspots at the powerline connection points. With the kit I bought, that means wireless at the transmitter, then a hotspot/Ethernet connection in my stepsons room upstairs and the same at the bottom of the garden in the summerhouse (my studio/gaming room in the summer).
Thanks for the channel Jay, I learn't enough from you to assemble my own PC (7850k kaveri) on a very very tight budget late last year, I'm now looking to assemble a similar rig for my stepson and a higher spec AMD based machine for myself, the current machine my two toddlers love playing lego games on.
0:21 he said "Bold Guy" he's gonna get sued
@JayzTwoCents I actually went through this comparison yesterday. I live in a apartment and use a powerline. I upgraded to 1Gb Internet and the power line only did a 50d and 70u while I plugged in a AC wireless adapter and got 300Mbps up and down. I can say big things if you want to use PowerLine, make sure you are on the same circuit which helps your speed, also NEVER plug it into a surge protector. Awesome video though Jay!
I think I may try this (and do a video if results are interesting) to see if it performs better than wireless and access point in my apartment, as I have trouble in my apartment.
Thanks, Jay!!
+EposVox You're everywhere~
GGMANIAC Dat's meeee
EposVox We just watch a lot of similar content. Good content.
there is a reason cisco, hp, dell, ubiquiti, ... dont sell powerlan. its like dsl over main, not stable. try it with vacumclaner on.
as a field tech, we get netgear powerline adapters, and I have had some interesting results. I found that it depends also on if the two electrical outlets are on the same side of the breaker box in your home. some outlets are not compatible. I have used them for people with large houses with their modem in their basement (hardline for work servers) and powerline upstairs for their router for great results!
I'd like to see the performance difference based on different locations and distances between units.
Dave Starr physical diverence in distance is relative. If two rooms are side by side but the electrical are on two different circuits then the signal will go from one adapter to the load center (circuit panel) and then to the other(s) adapters.
As a note about the wireless router and the wall adapter. Wireless is Half Duplex and CSMA/CA (Carrier Sense Multiple Access / Collision Avoidance), where as the Wall adapter is Full Duplex and CSMA/CD. This means that your wireless adapter and your wireless router can only speak or listen. It can not do both. This cuts your bandwith roughly in half, even worse if you have multiple end nodes communicating with said router. So if your ISP is telling you 50, expect no more then between 20 to 30, and even less if there is other devices.
Full Duplex devices can communicate in both directions at the same time, just sometimes, you get collisions. Wall adapters also have about a 100m distance of use, about the same as a Cat5e. But there is some negatives to using them. Interference is the major one, as you described on the video. Another negative, is power strips and surge protectors. If you use wall adapters, don't have power strips connected to the same plug.
Power strips and surge protectors cancel spikes in electricity. It mellows them out. Computers read those spikes as 0s and 1s.
Great video btw.
With the rise of box streaming, Powerline adapters are great for people who can't otherwise drill into their walls/floors/ceilings/etc. like myself, as I rent. While I'm not getting full wired speed with mine, I get about double what my wireless gives with a LOT more stability. Thanks to the adapter I can stream via SteamLink from upstairs to downstairs with almost no latency.
One thing to remember with them is to not slack on buying a cheapie Powerline adapter- the cheap, lower speed ones are damn useless. To really see a return on your effort (especially with gaming) you really need to be on 1200+.
My brother in laws house is an old Victorian with lath & plaster walls. The wireless simply could not punch through so many thick walls between floors, and even with the old wiring the Power line adapters were perfect for that old house. I tell everyone with dead-zone rooms to invest on Power-line adapters...they work.
Just any FYI the Ethernet plug goes into an old wiring outlet on the other side of the old house. And the outlet that receives is in a brand-new extension room with new wiring. It all still works fine even having to traverse different circuits and going into the circuit breaker box.. If you have dead-zone rooms were the solutions all seem bad... try Power-line units. They are simple, fast and they work like a charm
That intro music was sexy.
+Barnacules Nerdgasm If you find porn sexy. :)
no u
I've installed a lot of those TP-link kits of various models for my clients, they work beautifully. The wi-fi extender versions are the most simple to set up of those types too with a quick wi-fi clone button to connect to your existing router. Had so much more success with those than with other brands.
Wow, that's actually fairly impressive. I would say newer houses would do better, but wow. I always assumed powerline was a bad idea, but it appears to work! o_O
Unfortunately, my house was built in the 1860s, so I feel this isn't the best option for me.
@@charsquatch600 are there demons in your home?
@@ukiyo9729 ??
From what i have seen !! Read and have been told as well as personal experience!! Its always best and at time critical that the 2 powerline adapters are both on the same circuit!!! This is more important than anything else !!! Distance is not to big a factor if the circuit is at least the same !!! A lot of the manufacturers even recommend this in there setup instructions!!!!
Just a note: Your electrical runs from the outlet to the panel. then from the panel out. Unless you happened to put them on the same circuit, it doesn't matter how "far" away they are. You could have two rooms next to each other and it be the farthest in terms of electrical travel. Unless, of course, they are on the same circuit. But, if you are having internet issues across distance, chances are the outlet you are using to send the signal is not going to be on the same circuit. So, it doesn't matter.
Thank you for posting. I ended up just buying a simple 75' flat Ethernet cable from Amazon for $13, comes in white to match the walls, took 20 mins to pull the carpet n run it. If you have Comcasts pos arris gateway, just hardwire everything. I was getting .01 mb/s to no connection.... now around 28-35mb/s, and not going insane switching every conceivable router setting. Download wifi analyzer and you'll see how many devices and what channel everyone around you is using.
jay! you should have realized that the shortest route from A to B is not necessarily the two closest points in space. the power lines in your house are all meeting up at the breaker box. unbeknownst to you, you could have placed the two adapters as "far" as possible from each other. or, you if you did think about it, you should have said something.
I was about to comment the same thing. It still amazes me how these power line adapters work and how well they work.
KRIL89 i concur. i use them myself for my PC. granted i dont have a 65MBp/s connection to run through them, but they handle the DLS connection i have.
+Dravakiirm Animations Studios Except for the lines that share feed, as in this case.
***** true. but IMO, it is still worth a mention. i know of more houses that use room segregation for power breakers. rather than wall segregation or shared room.
Powerline has been a life saver for me. Having an office at the opposite side of the house, I've been able to add a D-Link powerline adapter in the office and one beside the breaker where my router is. I'm getting 50-55mbps download speeds (quoted for 50mbps from provider so a tad more even!) So highly recommended for those wanted to hardline their internet or LAN (especially for streaming media).
I've been usimg powerline adapters off and on forma few years. I'm very happy with the speed and stability. Both behind the same circuit box and through a couple of boxes. More speed when going through no circuit boxes, but still work just fine through two as well in a time of need.
I have a set that I use for an old pc that I use to run a Minecraft server. It doesn’t have a WiFi card and I can’t get a cable to it, so I got one of these for free from a my grandpa who was moving. Works great
$105 for a hoodie? fuck that
+BattMarn Some are more than that. Crazy, most hoodies around me (midwest) are around 65 bucks
BattMarn thats average/low end price for hoodies in finland.
BattMarn I have a AU$250 hoodie
But it has 13 pockets!! Lmao what a joke.
Birki gts Patrick:FINLAND!!!
I have a large house built on century old hardwood (we're talking 4x12 beams and 4 x16). I gave up on Powerline adapters for my main computers, it was always temperamental, working well then slow, then fast then slow... on and on and on. Now I passed a lan cable from the basement to the 2nd floor work room and left the powerline for the kids computers, it is much better that way.
Also, I found that a good $100 router with 5G works even better than the Powerline through the walls when less than 20 ft away. The best is still wonderful Cat5e or Cat6. The holes and patch job was definitely worth it.
Powerline adapters are something that have interested me for some time but like you last time I tried them I got horrible results and nothing ever synced up or the connection was unreliable. I want to try again with a better brand since the one I used was seriously as cheap as they got.
+Barnacules Nerdgasm Definitely try them again. If your adapters are on the same circuit, you can get some great reliable results.
+Barnacules Nerdgasm Personally I'm using some tp link 500mbs to stream my steam link - never had a problem and they also do wireless on the adapters - my steam link is literally like being at my pc and I use it for day long sessions. Overall was really impressed with them (esp considering I have a top of the line wireless router).
+Barnacules Nerdgasm It can vary. I have 4 adapters in my house, 3 work great and one that is in the most distant part of the house is quite flaky, sometimes to the point of bringing the entire network down due to some kind of a conflict. It's all easy to fix, though, and quite worth it.
I use powerline adapters from Devolo and they're great. Internet connection speed and ping are the same as if connected directly to the ISP router.
+Barnacules Nerdgasm The last ten years I must have spent €1,000 at least on various wi-fi routers. When as a last ditch hail-mary I tried Powerline about 4years ago and it was literally like a eureka moment. Then I was really pissy that no one told me before then about POWERLINE!
Esp. for gaming. I've everything wired now. Only devices that use wifi are phones/tablets. The stability and speeds ensure that my main systems will never be using wi-fi again. But like you guys said, I may have lucked out with my house's wiring.
In our house we use powerline adapters. It's an old house and we're renting; running ethernet cables everywhere wasn't on our agenda so we got these things as an alternative to the awfully occupied wifi signal in our area. Short story is, they're GREAT. Speeds are fast and steady. It's also super easy to expand and add more to the network.
Actually just got a few of these work. Have some older buildings that they wouldn't let us rewire properly, so to get a connection to a separate section tossed one of these in and it's working perfectly.
I had a set of these that I tossed on the junk pile until we rewired my house. I have fiber in my from yard thus insane internet cheap here . 100Mbps down/50Mbps up for $59 a month. So before rewiring I couldn't get a stable ping. After watching this I dug these out and am getting 95% of the speed in the basement as I was getting at the computer upstairs. Way more than the Wii ever needs. Mine are older and don't have the pass through so I lose an outlet. We had been running the Wii off wireless but that has a few drop outs. The computer and Wii internet access outlet are on the same circuit breaker. Thanks Jay for saving the trouble of running Ethernet cable to the basement. I know it is just drilling a hole thru the floor but this was much easier.
**I fell asleep in dialysis so I didn't get thru many of your other videos. I will try again on Friday. Who needs sleeping pills when you have Jay going on about people hogging gym machines...
Thanks for the video and keep up the good work...
my tp link 500mbps rated line takes my 100/5 connection to .7/.7
DONT BUY THEM IF HOUSE IS OLDER THAN 50 YEARS
I have no idea how old my house is but I’m assuming it’s really old and why?
I use a budget version of these, and while there is some degradation it still works great on the complete other side of the house. Much better than my wireless is. I would definitely suggest trying these to anyone with networking woes where wireless just doesn't work for you.
The algorithm brought me back here. I have stepped into a time machine
Really glad you did this video, this summer I'm redoing the whole internet setup at my house and this was one solution I was having a hard time deciding on. Thanks Jay!
OMG, 2 videos in 1 day! I'm so happy!
I've been using Homeplugs since just about when it was still a prototype. I live in a poorly built 30 year old home. I have had numerous routers die on my network (about twice the size of your network). And the only things that went wrong were: 1) At first I literally had a prototype that was not meant for consumers, and it worked very well for 2 years after which it had died (but mind you that was just the prototype). 2) I now use something similar to what you bought and about once every 6-12 months it will lose the connection between them and I'll have to unplug it and plug it back in.
So IMO this is a great product, and a much better solution than WiFi when it comes to performance, though at the cost of some convenience (you shouldn't put it on a splitter, if you put it on certain breakers it won't play that well, etc.)
Would be cool to see the internal network speeds that you can get since your internet isn't fast enough to push the powerline's limit ;-)
+pcfreak1992 Exactly. The 16 wifi vs 60 powerline Mbps is misleading. The powerline adapter is probably more like 30x - 50x faster than the wireless. Clearly the wireless was topping out at the 16 Mbps on the local link to the router.
+totoritko Obviously if the wireless is crapping out on the internet, I dont give a crap what the LAN speed is. I spend most of my time on the net, not on my NAS.
+pcfreak1992 not sure if this is a testament to internal speeds at the time, i lived in a condo in a high rise building a few years back and we tried a powerline kit from that timeframe from my condo to his condo to share internet, i had 100/100 fios internet and he was able to get around 55-65 out of the 100mb connection, between our condos in the same building...
***** Sure, but then you really don't need a 1 gig powerline anyway, or you could spend way less money and get a cheaper, slower model. Maybe even a simple wireless extender would do the job.
The 1 gig comes into play *exactly* when hi-def streaming locally or when transferring large files. That's when the difference really comes to life.
Not trying to say you're misleading on purpose, only that the test could have been done a bit better, IMHO. Anyway, keep up the great work and best wishes!
***** btw, not to just seem to be running my mouth, here's a suggestion for network performance testing: try netperf. It's an open-source utility that measures raw link throughput between any two machines.
Here's a super quick summary of how to use it: dev-loop.net/2011/05/measuring-network-throughput-in-windows/
Yeah, it's a command-line utility, but I've no doubt you've got the tech smarts to use it. And it'll help you eliminate any variability of your ISP, the speed testing website's servers and generally most things beyond your control.
Hope this helps.
I'm using TPLink powerline adapters all over my house and they work great! (My kids finally stopped complaining about the internet on their gaming rigs) The house has way too many walls in it so I also attached a separate WiFi router off of one of the powerlink adapters in part of the house that had 0 WiFi before and now it's perfect too.. TPLink has been awesome for my needs. (Wiring in the house is from 1973)
Should have done another test with the power line Ethernet as far as possible distance in your house to see if there's a difference!
it doesn't make a whole lot difference.. I have had power line for the last 3 years 2 different house.... distance is not that important as long as you don't live in Beckingham Palace
+shomu maity Ok thanks :)
Do you have to be on the same breaker or just the same meter?
2.4 wifi card < Power Adapter (provided house is fairly new and circuitry is clean) < 5g wifi with a non ISP (aka cheap) provided router < Ethernet is my experience with it and I was satisfied. I'd recommend these for any home that you rent.
Otherwise if you own the house and desire fast connections in several rooms run a centralized switch to provide each room with ethernet simply by replacing the coax or telephone lines in older homes with CAT 6 or better the modem and your router/switches should where your hot is coming in from the ISP. Not only does it increase accessibility and speeds but helps resale cost more than you would think in today's market.
I like this comparison.
You're just as entertaining and informative now as you were back then. Glad I found ya!!
I have a powerline adapter and its awful, it disconnects at least 10 times a day but I don't have a choice because the Router is downstairs, Do not recommend, just use wired
+xRsAtx well my desktop doesnt have wireless and my consoles are in a cuboard so i have to use powerline and mine works flawlessly 95% of the time.
+xRsAtx Have you though the unit might be faulty ? or there is another device on the mains that is chucking noise out which is causing the loss of sync for the devices ?
Used to have this problem where the unit would "sleep" when not gaming randomly. Update firmware or turn off sleep options. It worked for me.
@@jplegend98 how much does it cost?
@@angelloza4853 30ish
Jay, another thing to think about is that just because the other room is nearby does not mean that the wiring is the closest. The main adapter in room x has to go through the wiring, back to the power panel and than out to the other adapter in room x (Unless the adapters are on the same power line and not having to go back to through the power panel.
I like how everyone in the comments is saying how your internet is slow and I'm here with a 15MBs down (when I'm lucky) and a 0.7MBs up...
+BadDriversofCentralFlorida Either you're making a mistake somewhere or you're trolling because that's godly internet.
+BadDriversofCentralFlorida Then you move to Central Canada and get 5 down -25 up.
ktfjulien Not trolling or making a mistake; I just pay for the cheapest internet possible.
BadDriversofCentralFlorida You have to be. Or you just don't understand how networking works. 15MBs down is an amazing connection.
+BadDriversofCentralFlorida oke :P ive got 70 - 80 Mb/s down and 19 - 20 Mb/s up. and thats with there normal package ( 80 Mb/s ) i can buy the 400 Mb/s but is costs 70 euro´s a month xD
Those powerline adapters not only work on different breakers, but will even work on completely different panels. I have a detached garage that has a separate electrical entrance from my house. I hooked one adapter up in my house near my breaker panel, the other adapter in my garage near it's fuse panel, and it worked.
And just to be clear, in not talking about a pony panel where the garage is fed from the house. The signal would have had to go through my house breaker panel, out to the utility pole, and then into the garage, and through it's fuse panel.
The speed was definitely lower, something around 40mbit if I recall correctly, but the garage isn't in reach of a normal WiFi router, and I haven't dug a trench for running Ethernet out there yet, so it's good enough for now.
Well, I guess nothing will speed up my 1.5 mb/s internet speed.
Thats a new level of SHIT
Glad the powerline adapters did the job for you. They have certainly improved my network quality at home tremendously! Cheers.
3 days, 3 days PLEASE UPLOAD.
+El Diablo 5 DAYS!!!!!
+MrAvatin OH GOD! HE OVERHEATED, SEND WATER AND HEATSINK!
As a holder of a HAM radio license, I am obligated to note that these things create a lot of radio noise. That said, I gave one to a friend who rented a place he couldn't put any holes in and it worked great for his purposes. The one downside he noted was that latency was lower than ethernet and (in his case) wifi.
6 days without a video. I'm losing hope... dying... slowly...
well with 4mb up im not surprised lol
I used power line adapters in my old 2 story house, no cat5/6 and it worked great. Never regretted it, much better that I could get with wifi. Nice overview, and matched my results as well.
Did you buy a cheaper power line adapter or did you purchase the one in the video
5GHZ doesnt travel through walls or travel over distance well...
i wasn't expecting Jay to be featuring jacket as an intro, but it's a pretty handy jacket. On with the video
So... A SCOTTeVEST is basically a handbag you can wear?
you don't look like a dude with a man purse
+Liquid.Song linus (Linus Tech Tips) did a video on those clothes too
i live in a rented apartment with a dozen other wireless networks in the building with solid brick walls so my powerline adaptor is a godsend. Absolutely no loss compared to plugging straight into the router.
Handwarmers? More like glock holders for your school
Ethan Middleton shouldn't say things like that, you could get arrested
lol
Kyle Alvarez no you cant
I have used ether net over power line connections for many years and find them very satisfactory. Started out using TP-link Model? then switched to Dlink DHP 700AV and found them more satisfactory. I only need to push things to 20Mbs as I have an extremely slow ISP. But in our former house, in Oddawa, where we had 100Mbs service I found the speed a bit lacking. So since my gaming setup was on the 2nd floor beside the stairs I ran a long USB cable... and dropped an antenna down to the room where the wifi base was. That worked well. But I only tended to use that rig when doing a big download from a fast server, otherwise it was less messy to just use the powerline. I tend to find that most servers are half fast and only pump out less than 10Mbs. My current Dlink serves a printer on the 2nd floor and my gaming computer in the basement. If I try wifi to the basement the antenna in the basement is only about 12 feet or less from my base wifi station. My wife strength is fine -30 to -55dbm, if I do a bit of juggling with antenna placement. B ut I find the signal just periodically drops out for minutes at a time now and then. Must be interference because other computers through out the house do not have that problem. Just a perspective from a dumb Canuck.
0:36 Damn Jay, you make a nice Hoodie model :D
This is exactly the type of Powerline video I have been looking for. I have been debating is powerline adapters were a good way to get my network into my livingroom. My house is as old as Jayz Previous home (50+ years old) and the wiring from that time likely won't support good powerline networking. Thanks Jay!
1:32 So if I had a power socket directly behind my computer desk, I should put the powerline adapter there?
I love powerline adapters, they let my brother from the other side of my house get the full speed of the internet and it also powers by entire camera system in the house. And a side note my house was made in the 60's, so quality of my wires in my house seem to have held up nicely by the looks of it.
60MBPS frack I wish I had that! My internet is terribly slow.
+NoahThomas29 Me too, especially if it was the same price or cheaper than what I pay now. Moreso if the 4MB upload speed came with it.
I pay for 24mbps download, i get 1
I'll give you an example. My flat is kinda eloganted and the other end has no internet, I tried chaining wifi extenders but most I got was 20mbps down from 400mbps. The building was made in 60s so I was skeptical about powerline adapters but I decided to try. It took 5 min to install and I got 100mbps download 80mbps upload, I am happy
i use powerline in 2 rooms. as long if there on the same cicuit they work great.
I've been using one of these for a few months now and as far as gaming goes the difference in ping time was monumental for me, 10/10 would recommend
what is this!? I was hoping for a decent review but instead we had a lackluster comparison between two different technologies; of course it's Fibre > Ethernet > Powerline > WiFi... but also putting the powerline in the "next room" seems pretty dumb, people that are buying powerline obviously don't have a better (Ethernet) option so... then there's the issue of how the electrician put the power cabling in your walls, if it's a star wiring and you're on a different strand of cable coming from the circuit breakers, it doesn't matter if the "room is close" since the signal will travel up the cable back to the breaker then down the cable from the breaker to the other powerline adapter... then the final thing was testing using speedtest on your internet connection... WOW... just copy a few large files a few times (timing each copy) and run ping in command window... I mean you can include a Speedtest for the lels but why... oh well. also 5GHz is faster if you're in the same room or have very flimsy walls and are not far from the router... which brings me to last point... you didn't even tell us what router you were connected to... that's a LARGE oversight when you're doing a speed test between 2 radios (the router and your WiFi adapter)
+thedreadedgman
he did a complete video showing how the Wi-Fi is setup in his home, a Router at the core of his network, which is pretty far away from that machine in his home.
Jay unless your babies room is on same the circuit as your studio it doesn't matter how far away the room is. The signal will travel from the babies room out to your breaker box where it meets up with the common bus then will go back in through the breaker to the garage's circuit and ride that line out to the garage.
In a scenario where your breaker box is on the other side of the house it may be better to set it up at the far end since the signal will only need to travel the distance of the house once instead of 2 times.
Anybody else was thinking pewdiepie hoodie?
Red though...
Speedtest used different servers for the test. Can change significantly even on lan if you change servers. Look at bottom right of the test and make sure its on the same sever for the test.
I'm watching this video with internet from a powerline adapter.
+Joshua Blustein powerline represent
I just did some testing and I was very surprised. The "source" adapter is connected in the basement, I'm two floors above it. When I did speed tests I was still able to get 100Mbs (ISP cap) up and down simultaneously. For a 200Mbs kit it is pretty good. The software that came with it estimates that the link should be able to transfer 150Mbs.
Normally jayz reviews are good, but this one was horrible... Comparing apples and oranges with wirelss vs powerline wired.... And then testing internet speeds lol. I mean.. Wtf most lazy useless review ever. How about testing powerline adapter on different locations in house and compare. . You said having powerline adapt inother end of house would be bad... Maybe test and show that. I dont think so. I have use powerline adapters before over significant distance without problems. Note about powerline adapters have to be on same circut breaker in house for exampe. Also some powerline adapters come with wifi supported, good idea for access point in another part of house instead of drawing fiber there.
+David Larsen I thought this too. To say it makes a difference where you place it in the house, and then to not bother doing a quick "here is what happened when the powerline adapters were on opposite sides of the house instead of just vertically adjacent rooms" was a let down.
+David Larsen I agree. He should also test for latency and jitter between his client device and gateway to get an idea of consistency and reliability of the link. I remember Linus doing a similar WiFi vs PowerLine vs Ethernet test way back when and according to his results WiFi offered lower latency when compared to PowerLine. I wonder whether that has changed considering advancements PowerLine adapters have made in past few years.
maybe time for linus to revise that video =) maybe there wasn't even 5ghz wifi back when he did that old vid.
I just purchased one of these Power Line set ups for my daughters house she just purchased. It worked well into the room that is going to be her office, I get greedy and started playing with it. I took it to her out building a 2 car garage that will end up a man cave it is around 150 feet from the house. I got 50 mps in the house (cable direct from router giver her just over 100) and in the garage I still got 35 mps which is more than enough for netflix and stuff like that he would want to do out there while he tinkers. I like them, in our house I drilled holes into the walls and floors and ran cat5, that was a pain.
POwerline adapters work way better than Wireless. Proponents of wireless are just hipsters who like to say crap like Wi-Fi. Wireless has always been hit or miss and very testy. My mothers house was built in 1942 and her cable input is the se corner of her basement, her computer is in the NW side on the 3rd floor. Powerline was flawless and she gets an avg of 60 down 3.5-4.5 up.
Jay don't let hipsters try and steer ya wrong I had AT&T wireless internet and only powerline adapters allowed me to play online games Wifi was only 25 and giving me 400+ pings that Powerline had down to the 70-80's. Wireless is just a gimmick and good for facebook and tweeting but if you're a gamer you need ethernet or at least a powerline adapter.
Was just about to buy a power line adapter. Perfect timing for this video, thanks jay
+CR80442 You wont regret it. I was using my mobo wifi chip for nearly a year and got shit reception. Upgraded the modem to a £100 one and that was AWESOME. Then used a power line like this and my internet is flawless now.
Why is the internet so slow in us? Jesus.. In europe we have 1000mb/s down with 200mb/up for about 15 dollars US :)
+CStefan84 Because Politicians
Where do you live?
I'm in the UK and on a good day I get 1.2mbs down, that's not a typo that's 1.2 down. Most of the time the upload test fails.
***** BT, they are the only ISP that will do our area
+CStefan84 yeah sur , 18/1 for 30$€
Thank you for pointing out that Theme, ich checked my own System and realised i was only on 16 of 50MB over WLAN, i now updated to Powerline wich brings me 49 of 50MB. Keep up the good Work, a view more videos and i am buying a custom Loop ;D
60/4 internet? fail...
+Roy Batty how is that fail? some ISPs are dicks. they charge $100+ monthly for decent upload speeds.
wow for 100 bucks NZD or around 70usd im getting 100 down and 50 up
+madhouse5213 same spark fibre ?
shuffle Gaming My republic standard gamer pack
+madhouse5213 100 down 50 up? I am using 1000 down 1000 up for years, it cost around USD25 in Hong Kong
Jayz - about those power connectors I dont really think that it matters where you place them - if you have sequential power sockets than yes it would matter but that is never ever the case with modern build houses since if one power outlet burns all following outlets will stop working as well - so no matter where you are in the house the power adapters should allways go to the power distribution box from the first adapter and then all the way from the box to the 2-nd power outlet - one trick with those is that you must allways be in the same power box if your house has 2 of them you wouldnt be able to use them - atleast that is what i've found
Omg New Zealand has faster internet
Peetykay I live here in NZ too but I don't find I have anywhere near that internet speed lol
I live in wellington and we've got 1000 down and 500 up
texas here. trough ethernet i get 400down and 900up. my results are a bit odd.
It's so fun that people still call this wired.... It transmits the data trough the wires as a radio signal...
Even when I rewired my whole house with new wires it still can't beat a complete wired system!
got a house that is 56+ years old and mine works fine -_-
***** i said +
i just said 56+ cuz i'm certain the house is over that age at least
extra info: some of the electrical wires are still inside metal pipes (not plastic)
I like the power option have been using it for awhile over a wireless signal.Mostly cause of the hard wire option vs the sniff ability of wireless.Good work as always, Jay sir.
In Serbia there is this one provider that offers download=upload speeds up until 60/60 and the prices are not that bad, 60/60 version is arround 50 euros, thats approx 60 usd. Oh yeah there s a catch, they only operate in ONE municipality of ONE city in the whole country. I'm 150km away from all that glory,or course 😀
My uncle tried to get me into a power line setup cause i no longer have to run a 100ft cable from where the router is and to my room. sadly this house was built in the 70s i believe which would mean power line setup might not be best. now i can show him this video so he can understand that just running the cable works just fine.
My friend had terrible internet download speeds, over two weeks of download for GTA V. I actually suggested he get the powerline adapters, and his ping was halved and download speed increased by 25+ mbps. If you have extremely bad internet, I'd say these adapters would be a great help for you
Samuel Smith His PC had a bad wireless connection to his router, all the adapters did was help restore the connection
I am using TP-link powerline adapters, aside from it rarely randomly disconnect once in a few months, it runs perfectly other times quite happy with the result.
Lovin the video as always Jay :) I've been using TP Link for a number of years works like a dream. I have mine plugged in next to my router in my bedroom and the other outlets for my wife's computer in the kitchen and mine in the extension.
Never knew you even made a video about this. I bought that very same powerline adaptor back in 2017.
Use powerline adapters myself..just to put a wireless router in middle of my apartment. Works good for me, boosted 5GHz band to cover every room better.
In my experience neither option worked very well. A lot of houses don't have Ethernet, but many have better coax coverage. In that case, MoCA is definitely the way to go. Just being able to put another wireless access point on a second floor can make a huge difference.
If your getting a lot of interference then it might be a good idea to lower your RX (and maybe even TX) on your router, that will reduce the crosstalk on WiFi in heavy WiFi traffic areas. I've seen that help a lot in apartments. Another thing to check is which bands are more free. I use WiFi Analyzer on Android and walk around the entire area, just because you have one channel more open right by the router doesn't mean that channel isn't congested on the other side of your house.
Wow,2 vids in one day.Jay is on FIRE!!
+Frederic Vandeputte No, one was yesterday and one was today... something tells me you might be in AUS? If so, youre welcome! :)
I live in belgium so yes i saw two of your vids in a short amount of time ;-)
60 second non skipable ad from youtube, and then a 50 second ad from jay at the start. Can't wait for the other 50 second ad at the end of the video.
Fucking hell.
i've been using the powerline from tplink for about 4 months! it does the job really well for web/RUclips!