How The Ski Doo REV Changed Snowmobiling Forever
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- Опубликовано: 22 фев 2023
- We head to the home of Ski-Doo in Valcourt, Quebec to celebrate the 20th anniversary of the REV. During our visit, Mark sits down with BRP CEO, Jose Boisjoli and Chief Design Officer, Denys Lapointe for an engaging conservation as they look back and discuss the influence this snowmobile has had on the sport.
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2003 was a massive year for new sleds… REV, RX1, and Firecat.
My first REV, a 2004, (I still have it). Riding it at first was very awkward. Met a guy at a gas station with the same sled. He told me to put 500 miles on it and you will never go back. Boy, was he right. Went on a 200 mile day ride with a friend and our 3 teenage sons. After a bumpy ride they were all sore and I felt fine. I was convinced.
I remember doing the 15 minute test ride on an early year Rev but wasn’t convinced. Something in the back of my mind kept telling this easy transition from sitting to standup riding is the answer. The next season I bought a Renegade 600 and never looked back.
I think the REV is even more important than we think because there are so many older guys and gals that snowmobile and maybe we wouldn’t still be riding if we had to ride the old sit down style sleds. I know I and my back greatly appreciate the rider forward style and probably wouldn’t be still riding without it.
Ski-Doo has always been the Avantgarde in the snowmobile industry ! Proudly Canadian at it's best !
I still see first gen revs on the trail today, 20 years from when they came out. I own one and I don't feel the need to upgrade at all. Mostly because I like old stuff, but when people say "look at that old rev" I don't know what the heck they are talking about. It's a new sled as far as the geometry, to me anyway. Only issue was the bulkhead but the XP is the next best thing now. And that's 10 years old now as well. Time flies, but this is what we needed from Ski Doo.
Love these type of interview reviews along with your regular content. While I’m not a Ski Doo fan, there is no denying the impact the Rev had on the snowmobiling industry back in the day and it’s continued impact. Great video!
Glad you like them!
Bought my first skidoo this year - 2024 MXZ Blizzard after selling my Cats. I had bought my daughter a skidoo 600 E-TEC HO a few years ago and am so impressed with it, that I made the switch. Their suspension is clearly the best.
I remember riding my MX-Z Renegade (Renegade was under the MX-Z banner back then) and coming upon a Bombardier rep on a REV prototype or early production sled. It was a WTF moment. Rick let me take it for a spin. Did not really know what to think of it at first. It wasn’t love at first ride. And I hated the truncated tunnel and beaver tail. BUT two seasons later it was Spring order Blair Morgan edition MXZ-X Renegade. Game changer. Never looked back. And Bombardier had listened and ditched the beaver tail.
My brp helmet with the breath filter is the only helmet In 42 years that my glasses don’t fog up in, best 300 bucks I have ever spent in my entire life
I couldn't agree more. Same story with myself.
I have a lot of respect for someone that can remember a comment made so many years ago ( re: the beavertail ) . Excellent interview Mark.
Thank you!
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - The 2003 REV single handily changed snowmobiling like nothing else in the past 40 years. 20 years since its intro and there’s still manufacturers trying to emulate it! Sure each one of the big 4 innovate but nothing was as pivotal in the industry as the REV. It caught everyone else off guard! I’m not even a Skidoo guy but I can admit it! Here’s to the next 20 years of snowmobiles!! 🍻🍻
Funny thing about your comment is if the rev kept the trailing arm suspension and didn’t use cats a arm suspension it would not exist!!
@@jimbauerXp3 Ah we can get into the parts of the machine and who started them all we want - It doesn’t change the fact the REV changed snowmobiling.
I remember seeing these first time when I was in high school grade 10 I skip classes all day just go see this new designed format from ski doo rev first time seeing this I thought brilliant
Excellent interview Mr. Lester !!!
It was nice to see Mr. Boisjoli and Lapointe and they explained how the REV platform became reality, and as well, what position they were occupying at the time at BRP / Ski-Doo and where they are now in the company.
What an incredible 2nd year Blair Morgan had with the REV, truly remarkable.
I truly enjoyed this video. Well done Mr. Lester.
A+++
Thank you very much!!
From Doo's prehistoric Trailing Arm sleds to the REV in one model year. Ski-Doo improved. The Rev was a real game changer. Cat had A Arm front suspension for eons before the Rev and everyone else. A Arms suddenly became standard in 2003 on all manufacturer's products. Cat was first with real suspension, ..... Doo first for the rider forward concept. Both huge for the industry. Now all manufacturers have Double A-arm front suspension, rider forward design and we all get so much better snowmobiles. Cant wait to get my Catylist!! Another game changer....
I agree with you how can someone use someone else’s innovation to improve their product and then say they revolutionized something!!
@@jimbauerXp3because the a-arms weren't the only thing that was revolutionized.
The rider forward design was the main thing that changed the entire sport from that day onward.
Nicely done! Being one that hangs onto his toys for multiple years, even decades you can imagine my delight when I moved from a 1998 MachZ to a 2018 Enduro 1200 4Tek (still sorry to see that engine gone)! Saying the difference was like night and day is way understated.
I remember a bunch of were riding in upper Michigan. We had a chance to ride a 2003 Blair M. Replica. Afterwards, we all sold our sleds and bought Revs. I've never left.
I can remember test riding the BRP District Manager's REV demo in 2003 up in Muskoka. I adapted to it right away. I didn't want to give it back. After a half hour ride it was time to switch sleds. My 2000 ZX chassis felt really weird. I ordered a 2004 MXZ 600. I was hooked. Great interview Mark!
Been riding since the early 90s. Remember this paradigm shift very well. Not a ski doo guy but this was an awesome interview! This was one of your best videos!! Thanks for doing this
That's awesome! Thank you very much for your kind words.
The change that saved my back. From riding 80 to 100 miles a day and feeling like I'd been locked in a potato sack and beat with whiffle bats to riding 200+ miles a day and feeling great at the end of the day, says it all. Sorry Cat, but I'll never go back.
I went on a ride with my 99 670 ho this weekend. My son was on his 07 rene 600 sdi. We rode 40 miles and switched. OMG!!!! Try that some time. Its amazing the diff!
Great video. 20th Anniversary - time flies!!!!
I was in Duluth at Spirit Mountain for the sno cross races for the first race when the Rev came out. The first thing we said is it looked like a Duck. But wow did the Rev dominate every heat and final they were in. Prior to the race weekend the Rev was a pretty good secret you could not get away with in todays world of Social Media and cell phones. By the end of the first race everyone wanted one.
Very interesting video! I love the history of snowmobiling in all brands and I am a very big fan of Ski Doo!
Ski-Doo has always been at the forefront of New innovations in snowmobiling and the REV Chassis changed snowmobiling forever. This is why SKI-DOO is # 1 in market share and more people ride SKI-DOO than any other brand.
I bought a Rev in 2003....hated it! Bought a firecat and it blew the ski dont away
To say ski doo has been the forfront for 20+ years is very for fetched, cat was the first to give the entire industry a arm front suspension, first to offer triple 900cc and a twin, 900 triple with the thundercat, first to offer batteryless efi, first to have 1000cc triple, and a successful 1000cc twin, pretty sure cat was the first ones to put a auto chain tensioner on there sleds, and the alpha rail, first to offer the 36 front end, hell polaris beat everyone to the punch on the belt drive and the find my buddy app on the 7s display!! yes rev with rider forward and panelling instead of a hood and bulkhead tub, and the etec with shot, and yes factory first turbo, and now the water/ethanol injection on low elevation sleds, but they were the last ones to stop using carbs on there sleds, ski doo always over wired everything when they brought in the zx chassis and nothing but wiring nightmares, the old rev summit had terrible bulkheads, the Sdi 1000 was pure garbage! The xm were a lot better I will give do that! The gen 4 and gen 5 they still haven’t figured out to keep a tie rod boot from letting snow pack in, the gen 4’s were terrible for paneling out while carving, and felt super boxy, compared to cat and polaris, so to say they’ve always been number 1 is far from the truth, yes I’ve rode them all from late 90’s till now, haven’t rode a gen 5 and just taken a matryx for a slide across a parking lot and own a 22 alpha 146, a 07 m6 and a 95 rxl
@@codyarnold5672 Polaris still has carbureted sleds, the still have a 550 fan in the lineup, so ski-doo is definitely not last in that regard.
@codyarnold5672 don't forget extra travel tunnel, torque sensing link, adjustable front arm on the zr 440 sno pro and cross country models, cat has been a front runner in tech
I agree with Cody’s comment. Ski do has not been at the forefront of everything for 20 years. Look what cat and Polaris have done
My very favorite sled to date is the 06 mxzx 440 the seat and suspension and how light they are where incredible i so badly wish they would have made a trail version which i guess the closest thing would have been the 07 xrs 800
Great interview on the REV !
excellent video i still have my 03 MXZX 800 all stock still love riding it
Love this! 55 percent of the market share! Outstanding Fellas!
Still have my 03 rev x 600ho. My wife usually rides it out of me not wanting to sell it haha even when she gets a newer one I don't think I can ever sell that sled.
Enjoyed the history lesson. You do more videos like this.
I was late in life to the snowmobile scene so this predates my knowledge but it is good to hear the history even though I am a Polaris owner and fan
Very good interview. Thank you
First class interview all the way
Great interview!
fantastic interview
Excellent interview
The bringing comment about once you get on one for more than a half hour, that's how I feel about my 2023 summit!! I have a 22 and a 21 and a 20 and I don't want to ride them!! Just the 23!!
And….so glad that the REV was developed in a time when they were putting real motors in snowmobiles!
Skidoo, The best sleds period. Especially since the rev chassis they have been unbeatable.
Best sleds how😂. Best at being the most expensive to fix yes
@@CCH-R no such thing as a cheap sled to fix
@@TheAlexdylan97 non are cheap. But ski doo is the most expensive
@@CCH-R You get what you pay for, Go buy a polaris if you want cheap parts, See alot of them seized on the side of the trail lol
@@TheAlexdylan97 oh I agree Polaris is the one I see broke down the most around where I ride. I ride cat
my first rev was a 07 800 and was mint, then i sold it and went a few years older and got a 03 rev 800 and would never go newer..
the ride style has alot of benefits.....the only negative is that its harder to stand all your weight on one tunnel and yank it over sideways for carving. that ability of the older bench style snowmobiles is a liabily 90% of the time but its great for that niche.
I'll say it once I'll say it again Blair Morgan still the man I know he can't walk anymore but if he could he still be out there ripping they don't call him Superman for nothing 7c😎
Pretty hard to argue with this video.
I have a 2003 MXZ X 800(R) and an 850 renegade X 2017 and I love my original and I ride it every winter. Ski doo has to put a turbo in the backcountry
The rev wasn’t just useful, but it also looked the best out off all
So this is the man who is the reason why i "need" to stand up more then riding my Lynx from 2020 now, after i am so used with my 20 year old Arctic Cat? 😂
Well to be fair, my new sled is starting to grow on me, i was a bit nervous first cuz i am not used to this "standing up" pos of riding, but now then i have a few short trips to my own field with deep snow i have noticed it just like then i am riding my sports bike Yamaha R6. tho it more sitting down i do. the standing up and turning and so on is not there yet and i am not strong enough to be that active rider with my Lynx Xterrain. my old Cat i could just sit down and push W.O.T 😂
You need to get those guys over to the Can-Am department and have them start advancing the 4x4 industry and bring back the ds450!
I'm a cat lover! NoDo
I'm so sorry for you!
So funny,I Ride a Polaris Indy and there's not 1 snowmobile I don't like! Its fine to rip your friends about brands stuff but the reality is I Love snowmobiles,I would have 3 of every Brand if I could afford it 😂😂I personally get annoyed when I see like side x sides with tracks or Quads with tracks,to me that is ridiculous! When the right vehicle for this application in my eyes is a snowmobile!! And the whole sport is so much more than just what the snowmobile can do,the way they accelerate,the way you have a hood in front of you,it's just incomparable to me....
great comment! I would have one from each brand if I could. "Snomobiling" is sum of all of its parts, the sled, the weather, the riding companions, the destination etc
I ride a Polaris 600 Indy adventure and countless Polaris and Cats before this one. About to pull trigger on a Skidoo. Started riding in 68
I remember the sales slogan for the Rev and the firecat.
Buy a Rev to be a better rider.
Buy a firecat if you can ride already.
So I bought the Firecat F7 efi. And I enjoyed beating up on revs with it.
Skidoo never sleeps Allways on the Technology Arctic cat is years behind even with Catalyst too late Gen 5 just upped the anty polaris is right on Skidoos Tail
Are Stratified Charge Engines in the near future?
Sheesh, I'm getting old.
Early 70es My whole club was building a box under the seat, and with a hog dog cooker built in., for ski doo 669, 774 and so on. Nothing new with seat height.
Why dont they make a snowbike with etec?
Jose killed Evinrude!
wait what? Skii-Doo has 55% of the global market? i am pretty sure they dont have that much here in Sweden.
As it began with Arctic Cat, then the twin spare Chassis! Now Skidoo has it had sued Arctic Cat after stealing there design, Sued or suing because of royalties🤣 in Canada🤣 not a skidoo 2-stroke fan
Sea doo ski doo always creates technology. Yamaha copies it and improves it.
Who ever designed the gen5 needs to sober up
Ski doo rev is today what all sleds copied. Period. Now the patents are up so no worries bout getting sued.
I did not care for the Rev.
I was always told by my mentors that motors run on electricity and that engines run on fuel. I find I hard to believe when I hear the word Motor used over and over when talking about the engine. Unless it's and electic snowmobile pls call the power plant what it realy is. Just a little thing that bothers me the rest of the comments are 👍
To bad for ski doo the firecat was the better sled
In what measure? At this point, the Firecat a footnote in history and the rev is in it's fifth incarnation and thanks to it, ski-doo owns 55% of the market. What's AC's market share right now?
Lol the firecat surely owns the record for most service bulletins ever. Those things were a disaster. Rev is better simply due to rider forward ergos.
2003 F7 what a great performing sled. Great Engine, Drive Train and 13.5" Track!
@@jerrychase4177 Yes but then they turned around and ruined it by putting diamond drive in it.
I hated the 13.5 track