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Oops I forgot the spoiler timestamp! Uhhhhhh 5:57. And y'all are right, I think I forgot the definition of anti-hero there 😅
Ah darn
I was so confused lol, ty for the guide
@Schaffrillas Productions at one point you mentioned different versions of Batman being true to the original story (or “capturing the essence of the original” something like that). I feel like you might have already seen it, but if not “Batman: Mask of the Phantom” (phantasm?) is a pretty good one that I’ve been told is truer to the comics (as one who hasn’t really read the comics myself)
@@findingliospugolini8979 phantasm, and yes. Alot of People (including myself) find it the best batman story. I first thought it was nostalgia. But then i watched it. And i loved it. Animated is already way better than live for something as comic books. Like avatar the last airbender. It doesnt need anything live action. Animated is way better.
I like how you played the Danny elfman theme in your review
I'm glad that I wasn't the only one to immediately think that Riddler's army was a gang of redditors
They struck me more as 4chan users than redditors honestly
They struck me as Reddit mods if they weren’t fat. Like that one Mod from AntiWork or whatever that subreddit is called
@W3 I guess that’s the guy
Spoilers.
I love that someone in the comments was like, "what gun do I use?" and then when they attack the mayor one of them has a shotgun instead of the sniper that all the others have.
I don't know if that's intentional, but that's my cannon.
They're clearly a 4chan group called The Riddles
“Fear is a tool. They think I’m hiding in the shadows, but I AM the shadows.” As soon as I heard the opening monologue I knew that Reeves and Pattinson were good hands for the character.
Then in the flood scene after seeing how his discourse of being vengeance and using fear and violence for the sake of the city is also held by literal terrorist he decides to drop it (literally drops) and become the light, save people and inspire them, reasure then instead of frighten them. Its nice how in the first scene he saves that guy in the subway but he is still so afraid that batman is gonna gurt him, in that moment batman is not a heroic figure but a constant threat. At the end of the movie he becomes a symbol, a genuine role model.
Great way to introduce the world
Fear is for fools
ya it was so cool but scary at the same tie. also watching the skull guys getting their crap rocked was sick
Thought that opening monologue was pretty cringe-worthy TBH.
I loved how he didn't have all the fancy high tech gear that we see in other iterations.
An inflatable wing suit instead of a gliding cape.
A single batarang on his chest.
His car is a muscle car with armor and an afterburner.
And his main method of getting around is on a motorcycle while wearing civilian clothes.
It's a subtle way of showing us that he's early in his career and is still figuring out some of his equipment and methods.
I loved EVERYTHING about this movie entirely! I'd EASILY say this movie is on par WITH the Dark Knight on it's OWN way in order to BE a 10/10 in it's own perfect way. I’d say this movie and the TDK are somewhat neck in neck as an overall movie but still THIS movie alone is already automatically better than TWO of the dark knight films but I would easily say I’d prefer this PHENOMENAL movie over ALL of them from what it's accomplished. This ENTIRE movie is a 10/10 MASTERPIECE! We have a batman movie where the best character in the film IS Batman/Bruce Wayne! Robert Pattinson is the BEST batman I've seen and he's PHENOMENAL as Batman AND Bruce Wayne entirely while still given him a new stylized look that's FANTASTIC to see! Love this movie to death as it's the BEST batman movie, felt like batman: the animated series BEAUTIFULLY brought to life with it's gorgeous Art Direction and aesthetics! MASTERPIECE of a film throughout!
@@Gadget-Walkmen yeah the visual and cinematography is gonna be crazy influential on films for sure
@@soulpath1 EXACTLY! It's a 10/10 MASTERPIECE of a movie!
I don't agree about the gear thing. One of Batman's main things are his gadgets, I haven't watched the movie in 2 weeks, but did he use any actual gadgets like his grappling hook, a batarang, explosive gel, anything?
@@whenfunnydancingcockroach4625 This isn't the Arkham games Batman who has squared up against the likes of Poison Ivy, Bane, Scarecrow, or Mr. Freeze; he stops muggings and organized crime. I don't think they're going to go on the supernatural route for these movies; keep it grounded in reality like the Dark Knight Trilogy did.
I quite liked the funeral scene, where the mayoral candidate starts grilling him about how he isn't doing everything he could for the city. He barely even pays attention to her, because a) of course he thinks he's doing everything he can for the city, and b) he gets distracted by the rich orphan. He quite clearly proves Riddler's point in that scene.
And also c) it calls out the annoying bullshit where people complain about Bruce Wayne not being charitable before it happens, and offer their own spin on it(Bruce and the city is too self consumed for that yet it is valid)
@@supermansuperman3047 People do that ALL the time and it's so clear they don't know anything about batman when they spew nonsense like that Batman donates to charity ALL the time. I found this movie to be a PHENOMENAL film and in portraying all the qualities that makes batman, BATMAN! 10/10!!!
@@supermansuperman3047 i hate those people because they clearly did not understand that Bruce Wayne only had Batman as an option
@@Gadget-Walkmen For all of Bruce's donating, Gotham is still shit. This movie proved that throwing money at issues is not how things get solved because Gotham is so corrupt that it doesn't work.
@@grandempressvicky6387 Gotham can and HAS been improved one at a time, bit by bit.
A moment I don’t see a lot of people talk about is when Bruce is trying to warn Alfred that the Riddler is going to attack him, I love that Bruce frantically calling the phone contrasted with Alfred’s calm demeanor while checking the mail, I love the fact that Bruce drops the Batman voice when he finally gets through, showing his vulnerability, I love the race against time with the Batmobile going as fast as it can, I love the feeling of dread as Alfred slowly gets closer and closer to opening the package, and I ADORE the absolute punch to the gut that was Bruce being told that Alfred was already attacked and he never knew because he was so busy being Batman, that scene was SPECTACULAR
the scene was well executed but i don't think the movie set up their relationship well enough to make the audience care about alfred that much. especially when the movie brings him back to life soon after and gives him a bunch of exposition to tell us
@@tienwang113 Exactly my same thoughts when watching the movie!! I said to myself that they really needed more depth within their relationship before they try to pull strings. Since Alfred has been raising Bruce ever since his parents died, he is like a real father figure to him and supports some of Bruce’s choices/is wise with him. I understood what they were trying to go for from the beginning. Alfred and Bruce were saying “oh but you aren’t my real dad ” from the start but for three hours we didn’t have enough moments between them which was disappointing. Alfred is great he deserved more screen time with Bruce ngl.
@@roxanne_ yes should have been more depth.If it was,this would have the best batman alfred relationship. I MEAN,they are going on the earth one comic route where Bruce really argues with alfred in his early years,even knocking him up. He makes mistakes.Obviously in the next movie,their relationship will be more like we thought .Because he finally learned that vengeance is not important only hope and justice at the end
One very interesting detail is that right before this scene is the only time Batman does the disappearing before someone (usually Gordon) is finished talking thing in the entire movie
Omg that sequence had me on the edge of my seat! My heart shattered 💔
I actually disagree that Penguin is pointless. Penguin is there to illustrate that even if you take down a corrupt figure, there will likely be a new one just waiting in the wings, pun intended. Falcone got taken down, but Cobblepot has ambitions. Corruption is bigger than one person, which is one of the big themes of this movie. Beating up one guy won’t change anything meaningful.
Besides Penguin was great especially as comedic relief
@@miketrapper0464 true
I guess Pinguin is about what comes next as you said.
But also like... He is weirder and more chaotic than Falcone. The way he is ready to make everything explode during the chase, the way he almost shoots Falcone in front of the whole police force etc.
Batman took out the greatest crime boss in the entire city.
And now the wacky lunatic has control and has opportunity as Gotham isn't in the best shape.
I think it's a good way to symbolise that Batman crusade is about to make Gotham weirder and a lot more violent before it can ever be better.
When something is dying, it will fight harder. And if Batman wants to go against Gotham disease, he will have to go against it when it's at its worst before making it any better.
Which was touched on in a Batman Run like... Around Long Halloween? Or around Knightfall. Where he is like "Am I making all of this worse?"
And how his Rogue Gallery is akin to the city madness' immune system against Batman trying to heal it.
Penguin was basically Falcone's ugly duckling.
Which is why you beat up _every person_ to make real meaningful chance /s
Out of all the Batmen I've watched in my short life, this is the first Batman who I empathise with. He's not a rock, he gets angry, afraid, sad, and under the suit he is visibly weak. This is the first Batman I personally feel is really human.
Under the red hood?
I think that's what I love about Kevin Conroy as Batman as well he brought so much emotion and empathy to a character usually lacking in that. I really love Robert Pattinson as Batman though. He kinda reminds me of Arkham Origins Batman with being younger, less experienced and less mature but growing to be more compassionate and mature by the end. Definitely my favourite live action Batman (probably 2nd in general just because Kevin Conroy's so good)
@@robo1513same
The scene where Bruce is with Alfred at the hospital, talking about the dirty situations his father got into, only to realize that Alfred has been his family this whole time was such a touching moment
Yes agree
Batman has a lot of powers, his strength, his intelligence, his money, his morals, but this movie remembered probably his most important power, his compassion.
Y E S
and he's good at committing tax fraud
@@demetrian7856 Good, maybe I can learn a thing or too from the Batman
"If you can't imagine your version of Batman comforting a dying child, that's not Batman, that's the Punisher in a funny hat"
@@TheFirstBhau
Ahh, a cultured fellow I see.
To quote Red from Overly Sarcastic Productions - “Can you imagine your Batman comforting a scared child? If yes, congratulations, that’s a genuine Batman! If no, you haven’t written Batman, you’ve just written Punisher in a funny hat.”
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If this is about the young girl from the animated series... glad I'm not the only one still with that trauma almost 2 decades later, hi
yeah buts thats an older batman, a more developed one
Like the channel but she kind of made the Post Crisis version of Batman look bad, that’s the best version of Batman, he has comforted plenty of kids and even babies.
@Meagan Barnes I’ve heard this quote a few times and I’ve seen the video, but which Batman version was this a diss towards? Certainly not Zack Snyder, as he does just that in the beginning of the movie.
I really liked how the movie recognized that Batman is supposed to be an actual hero instead of a violent antihero. He’s always been a character motivated by his morals instead of vengeance, which is what makes his development in this movie so strong.
Battinson's face and jawline fit perfectly with the mask I kept giglling whenever he showed up coz it looked like Bats in the comics. I also loved that this Batman was properly beat UP.. coz being Batman is haaaard! Seen it 3 times.. so far 😉
Pattinson is the BEST batman on screen PERIOD! And I REALLY hope you mean "giggling" in a good way because Pattinson was MENACING on screen while being a human being.
This ENTIRE movie is a 10/10 MASTERPIECE! We have a batman movie where the best character in the film IS Batman/Bruce Wayne! Robert Pattinson is the BEST batman I've seen and he's PHENOMENAL as Batman AND Bruce Wayne entirely while still given him a new stylized look that's FANTASTIC to see! Love this movie to death as it's the BEST batman movie, felt like batman: the animated series BEAUTIFULLY brought to life with it's gorgeous Art Direction and aesthetics! MASTERPIECE of a film throughout!
@@Gadget-Walkmen HAHAHAHAHA Absolutely I was giggling in the best way possible. To me there were times Battinson resembled a Jim Lee and Alex Ross comic come to life.. Incredible..
Seen The Batman 3 times and gunning for 5
@@johnnywhite274 Same, I can’t WAIT for this phenomenal movie to come out on Blu Ray! MASTERPIECE of a film!
@@Gadget-Walkmen you keep copying and pasting but I honestly don't mind it
Haha
@@aanyamallick7747 lol that’s great to know because I’m speaking FACTS here! Love this movie so much!
Batman isn’t an anti-hero. He’s a dark hero. You could almost say he’s… the Dark Knight.
Aaayyyyy!!!😏
*Theme song blasts*
@@moonfoxx814 *INSERT LOUD HORNS THAT WOULD MAKE THE THX INTRO BLUSH*
"SOMETHING IN THE WAY, TOP HAS SPRUNG A LEAK"
Yeah right? He's like the hero-est hero ever, arguably more than even superman! Why would he say he's an anti-hero
Mostly I liked how this version of Batman LOOKED right--he looks like a guy who stays up all night, he seems kind of haggard and wears sunglasses during the day because it's too bright. I found that way more believable and easy to get into than Christian Bale's silly voice or a previous Catwoman's staple costume. Actually come to think of it both Batman and Catwoman were pretty cool this time around.
Agreed, although Christian Bale's Batman kinda did touch on Bruce's haggard appearance and stay-up-all-night personality. We often see bruises all over his body, and in Batman Begins, he's shown sleeping in very late after a night of crime fighting.
This was the best catwoman we had ever, Anne Hathaway was not a good catwoman
it felt much, much more true to the character. we get to see Bruces origin a few times, and see him as an established Batman, but seeing this very young and still confused version of him trying to navigate those first few years as Batman and figuring out what it means to him was *chefs kiss*. I also liked the cat woman costume! you could tell she just cut a ski mask for her cowl and that seems so much mor realistic considering what she has at her disposal for a costume vs Bruce who could really have anything he wanted made for him. Attention to detail was A+. also Bruce looking like an actual person and not a god tier jacked man is so much better bc he IS just a human, and thats a huge part of what makes him so compelling and brave. Superman, Wonder Woman, the Flash, Green Lantern, etc all have powers. Bruce is just a man and I like that he felt like a real person.
@@miketrapper0464 Anne Hathaway is so hot in that movie
@@jacksonscott690 yeah but no personality
I loved the ending because it shows that heroes can only do so much as punishers and protectors - the hero people really need is a healer.
The whole message is pretty much: yes, antiheros are rad AF, but heros are what people need, and I loved that. I went into the movie was a "fuck yeah, Vengeance" attitude and walked out with a different POV on both the movie *and* the world.
@@Antiganos Agreed, LOVE this movie so much! Absolute masterpiece!
I like how it isn’t particularly his origin story and how his backstories were told by Riddler, I feel like hearing his story told by a villain’s perspective is chilling, and also powerful since we’re able to see both sides
batman isn't a anti-hero. he loves humanity and values human life above all else. just because he's stoic and grumpy doesn't make him an anti-hero.
He is in this film, have you seen it? His entire character arc is realizing his motivation for being batman is vengeance, not heroism
Cosmonaut Variety Hour basically said this exactly the same way, and I’m assuming you are quoting him. If not, he has some very in depth videos with large focuses on this exact idea that are pretty interesting.
It makes him a great character
@@parkwayninja41 yes, i had cosmonaut in mind when i typed this comment.
If he valued human life above all else, he would be a utilitarian instead of following kantian ethics. He values his no killing code above human life, since he refuses to put down villains like the Joker no matter how many times they escape and kill again.
Really loved seeing Pattinson proving with films like this he’s been long past his twilight days with spectacular performances such as this.
Are you a time traveler? because it says you commented 13 hours ago.
(Yeah, I know about timezones)
He's said before he doesnt care about being a celebrity like that
Heath ledger mainly only acted in romance movies so everyone thought he would do bad as the joker. Then he delivers the best movie villain performance ever.
I regret not giving him a chance until I saw The Lighthouse. Dude is just damn good at what he does
Kristen Stewart too, esp with Spencer
Giving us a young Batman was absolutely brilliant. Seeing him grow from a struggling man of grief into Gotham’s hero was so interesting and emotional!
(Spoilers ahead)
My brother pointed out how at the beginning of the movie, Bruce was very self centered and didn’t accept any physical interactions. Then near the middle we see him finally open up and hold Alfred’s hand when he’s in the hospital bed, and at the end he’s comforting the little girl being airlifted, never letting go of her until she’s finally physically impossible for him to hold anymore as she flies to high up. It’s such an amazing detail!
that Ben Shapiro dig was gold. That guy sometimes speaks facts but sometimes is just a moron
He wasn't "young". Robert Pattinson is 35. During production he was older than Bale was in Begins. He was around the same age as Val Kilmer, and just a couple years younger than Clooney was.
I hate this take so much.
@@mrrazfromnz Oh, you’ve misinterpreted what I said.
I’m not specifically talking about the actor that plays Batman. I’m talking about *Batman*
@@ghostlypenguin4417 And he's in his 30's too. Riddler was born in 1984 and they were kids at the same time.
@@mrrazfromnz okay, you’re right. But my main point isn’t specifically the age. I should’ve clarified that.
I say “younger” in the sense that Bruce is in his earlier stages of being Batman in this movie. Not necessarily just beating up thugs with a mask and suit, but in the way that he’s becoming more emotionally open and is still in the process of growing
For me, I loved how this was one of the darkest films I’ve watched, but I could always tell what was going on. It never felt too dark. I also loved how each fight scene was uniquely its own. Man that scene of him fighting in the dark and the bullets are the only light showing Batman beat the shit out of Falcons goons, holy shit that gave me the fucking chills
The one thing that kept coming to mind to me was how *intentional* all the lighting was. It seems like a lot of moody movies just scream "CUT THE LIGHTS. ACTION!" But here each flicker and every lamp was positioned in such a way to always convey the right visual information for the audience to track. It's super impressive!
@@clydesdale1775 it kinda reminded me of playing a horror game. lost? oh look at that light on that door/key item over there.
@@arowace498 I think it comes down to set design, or in the case if video games, environment design. The physical world the characters inhabit are designed to lead you through them coherently. Its so freaking amazing.
@@clydesdale1775 Also how that one flickering lamp over Iceberg lounge kept popping back throughout the movie only for it to be a key element in Falcone's downfall. That was a GREAT implementation of what you just described.
@@AzraelSoulHunter OMG I didn't even think of that! Man, I need to watch this movie again.
Really respect this review, but the one thing that I do think you got wrong is calling Batman an "anti-hero" when he is arguably the most heroic DC superhero. The whole point behind his motivation for not killing people is that he never wants anyone to feel the pain he felt that night his parents were killed. People just call him an anti-hero because he's grumpy when that's honestly using the term wrong. An anti-hero is somebody who lacks typical, heroic traits like Deadpool or Punisher, while Batman has those traits and more. His respect for human life is nothing short of heroic, and it honestly is a pet peeve of mine when people call him an anti-hero.
I agree, but in (((((((((spoilers)))))))))))) the penguin chase scene he really didnt seem to care all the people dying caused by him and penguin
I'd argue that before dick shows up he is more on the anti hero side
I think depending on the story he is either a hero or an anti hero.
Batman has been alot of things over the years. In some portrayals, his need to punish the guilty seems to overshadow his desire to protect the innocent. In this film, I feel like he does walk the line a bit more but ultimately falls on the hero side towards the end.
Depends on what you consider an anti-hero.
Batman has quite a few characteristics that are not traditionally heroic. He uses fear, he has the night and darkness association with the bat thing.
I think people tend to call him an anti-hero due to comparison with the other most popular heroes: Superman and Spider-man.
Thank you!
Holy shit, Paul Dano is the most amazing Riddler I've seen.
He flawlessly made the character's failings make sense. Hubris and immaturity rolled into the genius.
I loved EVERYTHING about this movie entirely! This ENTIRE movie is a 10/10 MASTERPIECE! We have a batman movie where the best character in the film IS Batman/Bruce Wayne! Robert Pattinson is the BEST batman I've seen and he's PHENOMENAL as Batman AND Bruce Wayne entirely while still given him a new stylized look that's FANTASTIC to see! Love this movie to death as it's the BEST batman movie, felt like batman: the animated series BEAUTIFULLY brought to life with it's gorgeous Art Direction and aesthetics! MASTERPIECE of a film throughout!
He genuinely scared me in the cinema. Despite him looking like my maths teacher it kinda shows even regular looking or even ‘weak’ looking guys are capable of being terrifyingly brutal.
@@Cloudypaws1933 It's art imitating reality. Just looking at Jeffrey Dahmer, for instance, you would never have guessed the kind of shit he did.
He is the scariest comic book movie villain of all of them because he’s realistic and scary
He's both terrifying and hilariously fun. He mixes John Doe(Se7en), the Zodiac Killer, Gorshin Riddler's theatrical nature, Cory Michael Smith's Riddler's calculating demeanor, with a hint of Carrey Riddler's over-the-top camp. All while treating him as a serious threat.
"Riddler's army of Redditors..." 4:35
That is one of the best quotes I have ever heard.
My favorite part is how this film never wasted a scene during its three hour runtime. Not many three hour or longer movies can say they really did that.
even no way home did that so the fact that batman succeeded where NWH had is pretty cool!
After three hours, I still didn't want it to end!
You actually made me realize why Catwoman only calls Batman Vengeance. She's throwing his words back at him so that he'll help her.
Love their dynamic so much and not just theirs, batman and gordon's team up was perfection! This ENTIRE movie is a 10/10 MASTERPIECE! We have a batman movie where the best character in the film IS Batman/Bruce Wayne! Robert Pattinson is the BEST batman I've seen and he's PHENOMENAL as Batman AND Bruce Wayne entirely while still given him a new stylized look that's FANTASTIC to see! Love this movie to death as it's the BEST batman movie, felt like batman: the animated series BEAUTIFULLY brought to life with it's gorgeous Art Direction and aesthetics! MASTERPIECE of a film throughout!
My favorite live action Batman by far. Paul Dano's performance is perfect, especially when you see him in Arkham, he looks small, every shot of him prior he's wearing the Riddler outfit and it makes him look menacing. It's such a cool contrast. Also the line, 'It doesn't matter who's under that mask, cause I'm looking at the real you', absolutely gave me chills. He's right, Bruce is a mask for The Batman. That's also why I like how they titled this film, The Batman, like an urban legend or boogeyman. Also, 'Something in the Way' was a great choice for this film.
Also the, "this did not go how I thought this would go" line had flashes of Tim Robinson.
I'd EASILY say this movie is on par WITH the Dark Knight on it's OWN way in order to BE a 10/10 in it's own perfect way. I’d say this movie and the TDK are somewhat neck in neck as an overall movie but still THIS movie alone is already automatically better than TWO of the dark knight films but I would easily say I’d prefer this PHENOMENAL movie over ALL of them from what it's accomplished. This ENTIRE movie is a 10/10 MASTERPIECE! We have a batman movie where the best character in the film IS Batman/Bruce Wayne! Robert Pattinson is the BEST batman I've seen and he's PHENOMENAL as Batman AND Bruce Wayne entirely while still given him a new stylized look that's FANTASTIC to see! Love this movie to death as it's the BEST batman movie, felt like batman: the animated series BEAUTIFULLY brought to life with it's gorgeous Art Direction and aesthetics! MASTERPIECE of a film throughout!
This is the first time I’ve seen someone else compliment the title of the movie. The whole Boogeyman thing really connects with how he is at the beginning of the film.
"If you can't imagine your version of Batman comforting a dying child, that's not Batman, that's the Punisher in a funny hat." That's why hope and justice, not vengeance, are what will save Gotham. This might be a hot take but as a Christian who's trying to reevaluate my position on many things, I am so tired of watching Batman iterations that could care less about the average joe. Even my beloved DK Batman gets almost no scenes of him getting out and helping the people he supposedly cares so much about. It's just him running around beating up some random henchmen and the next scariest boss that shows up. That's why I loved Andrew Garfield Spider-Man because there was so many scenes of him just interacting and helping citizens, so it was believable to why he actually wanted to save the city time and time again. So yeah, a Batman that realizes that beating the crap out of people is not solving anything, which leads to him leading people out of danger and helping an evacuation is refreshing! And you know some of the best people in real life make mistakes, so Thomas Wayne having some dirty ties doesn't ruin anything.
Yeah I'm not sure why schafrillas called him an anti-hero.
Ayo trope talk reference
OSP reference ftw
Batman has always been about helping others in a way he wasnt, and that's also why I hate the idea of him as a broken man who's no more sane than his villains.
The final point of the killing joke was a direct refutation of that.
I think my sisters experience really demonstrates how good of a batman pattinson was.
Before watching it, she was sure it would be a fun movie to watch a vampire fight bad guys in a silly costume.
After watching the movie, she got worrid about watching any other movie with pattison as she will now just see bruce wane
😂😂 nice. U and ur sis should watch good time 2017. It was the movie which made Matt reeves get Robert the role of Bruce. Fun fact: at the beginning of the Batman - the store that the drophead thug robbed is called Good time store.
riddler was one of my favorite batman villains in the comics and this interpretation of him does not disappoint. I absolutely love the dynamic the riddler and batman pulled and oh boy did the actor did an amazing job portraying him. he's scary, creepy, yet I can see someone in real life being just like him on the internet, it's realistic in a spooky way
Took a lot of inspiration from the zodiac killer
@@georgeosborne1854 I'm pretty sure they've stated that The Long Halloween and Batman Year One were the movie's main inspirations.
@@MeatOfJustice I mean do you seen the design of him though? It’s just like the zodiac killer, bag on his head, cyphers, symbols. Riddles. It’s just like the zodiac, albeit the zodiacs riddle was likely messed up by the zodiac making it impossible to uncover, so he wasn’t a genius, just lucky.
@@MeatOfJustice You know you can take inspiration from more than two sources, right?
I think we’re finally getting a Batman that would mesh well with others. His line about hope at the end made me instantly think about how well he’d work with super man. I don’t think he’s mature enough to have a Robin yet, but expanding the bat family with batgirl or bat woman would be sick
I disagree with that last bit, I think he's so ready to have his own Lego batman arc with Dick Grayson.
@@mckennaa3641 while i love grayson, i would prefer if they switch things a bit with a different character as a robin
maybe cassandra cain (a more loyal to comic books not like the one seen in harley quinn's film), or jason todd. or tim drakeor duke thomas.
duke thomas if they want to adapt to a degree zero year and cassandra if they want to adapt no man's land
@@mckennaa3641 that would be vanilla to watch and I hope Alfred gets more involved like the Lego Batman version too
Would be neat if the half-painted kid from the beginning reappears and turns out to be Jason Todd
@@ianr.navahuber2195 Nah, Dick Grayson needs a redemption arc movie wise.
I was shocked at how much I loved this movie. When it ended, people clapped and cheered. I haven't had an experience like that since... Well, twilight actually haha. Loved Pattinson then, love him even more now!
The difference is that for twilight people were clapping because it was over
@@hogndog2339 fax
@@hogndog2339 Lol. Also, because the song that played at the end of the final Twilight movie, ugh.
I'm just glad Pattinson can now put some great distance between him in Twilight and killing it as Batman.
Your story shows how people IRL in a social media times still really need a heroic figure. A healer. A true beacon of hope.
This version of Batman is much more humane and at theme he is genuinely heroic and learns that helping people is far more than just beating criminals.
I like that they actually show him with all the bat eye makeup instead of pretending it was never there
Actually never mind that scene of penguin having to waddle away was cinematic gold 10/10
The fact that Bruce acted pretty much the same with the mask off and with the mask on really hit home for me. It showed how dead set he was on his job and or role in Gotham. bc in the other Batman’s Bruce Wayne was kind of a richy douche, but in this one he’s way more connected and it shows how much time and effort he puts into this nocturnal hero persona
Bruce Wayne is supposed to be the richy douche, that's the whole point. That's his persona.
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Batman is not an anti-hero, he is a hero. a lot of people forget that batman will do anything to protect others as he wants to prevent what happened to him with his parents
It’s REEEEEALLY hard for me to put this movie above Dark Knight, but I definitely liked it better then Batman Begins! So if this movie is the start to a new Batman trilogy, I can’t imagine how good the next one will be!
For me, this is my new favorite Batman movie
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That’s respectable. It was a great movie, but for me, I don’t know if there will ever be a better Batman movie than the Dark Knight. Heath Ledger’s Joker is still the best to this day and the dynamic between him and Bale was incredible! I think the dynamic between the Riddler and Batman was really strong in this movie, but it couldn’t quite reach the same heights for me. That said, I still really loved this film and I cannot wait for it’s inevitable sequel!
@@sethfeldpausch4337 for sure, I love the riddler because this one seemed scarier, and extremely realistic
I personally think the movie is better then dark knight,this movie story telling is on another level
The dark knight is a better movie in general but this is a better batman focused film imo definitely better than tdkr and almost ad good as begins which is a very underrated film
I agree that the penguin wasn’t necessary but holy shit he stole every fucking scene he was in, I couldn’t help but laugh at some scenes because he stole the scene
When he was tied up getting interrogated, and then started to waddle like an actual penguin while cursing them … I loved it.
And besides without his great reactions the Batmobile chase wouldn’t have been the same
sooo he was necessary for the movie, just not for the main plot lol
"What is this, the good cop bat-shit cop routine?" 😂😂😂
@@Lacey0312 I fell asleep halfway through the movie and the next day I was like heheh....nice. Penguin walk.
"Something in the way" just fits SO WELL.
I love this movie, it feels like an actual comic book, red herring and all, and the setup of his villains was insane and clever
"Ben Shapiro said it was bad and I was like, ok that's how you know it was the best Batman ever made." Of all the languages you could speak, Schaff spoke facts.
But then he did say it kinda was bad. So Ben was right?
@@VersaMaxpr0 Well Ben hated the movie but schaff gave it a 8/10
@@justinqueso9644 gotcha. Think I misunderstood him there. Didn’t watch whole video
Well considering Ben is right on about 75% of the stuff he says... except to lefties who think facts don't matter if it upsets you... but yea this is NOT one of those times. Smart guy but dead wrong on this movie its a 9/10.
@@SoloDoloToker Ben Shapiro is wrong 99% of the time
I like the scene where he messes up his landing after gliding away from the police, it really demystifies Batman, it shows that he's human and has weaknesses.
I wanted to subscribe a second time when you said “his army of redditors”. Always make me lol at least once a video. Keep up the good work!
Ngl seeing Robert Pattinson being Batman as unexperienced vigilante (still vulnerable) is an interesting angle to tackle. Last time we have good riddler is the one in Gotham series, glad the Riddler is more used effectively
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Eugh no Gotham sucks
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 season one kinda sucked but it got really good in the later seasons.
@@SimonPetrikov12 It looked cringey the whole way through and I hate the whole "hero defeats all their core villains before even putting the costume on" shit Smallville did. Should've either been a spinoff focusing on the GCPD dealing with supervillains and Batman, or set before Bruce returned. Hell I'd prefer the young Batman idea they originally had before they made Smallville (Bruce after he returns to Gotham but before suiting up), or a teenage Batman all the way through
Based off his lines in the ending, he sounds like he wants to push towards being an actual superhero rather than a glorified soldier. It's made pretty apparent his Batman persona in this film is nameless, just goes by what he wishes to embody, "Vengeance." From here on, he will actually make a real name for himself, that being Batman
Maybe he will go through each part of "I am the vengeance, I am the night, I am Batman" speech in Reeves trilogy. Here we have inexperienced and violent Vengeance, next one will be more refined Night of hope and in the last one we will have the perfected Batman, the hero of Gotham.
@@AzraelSoulHunter That is exactly what I was hoping for
@@AzraelSoulHunter if vengeance had to fight against someone who embodies extreme vengeance, perhaps the night will tackle those who rule in darkness like the court of owls and Penguin, and then Batman will fight the Joker, maybe along the riddler and whoever is the antagonist of the second one
He gets called batman but never calls himself that and I think that's a great little detail. He is recognized as the 'bat'man but is not yet the hero we know and love. Also love that only riddler directly refers to him as the batman, others call him vengeance or something like it.
I just- really want a movie to not reboot, and for us to finally get to see the batfam on the big screen. The fact that we've never even seen Jason Todd, the second out of at least 8 (Dick, Jason, Carrie, Tim, Cassie, Damien, Stephanie, Duke) is genuinely criminal. First big screen batman movie was 1966... FIFTY SIX YEARS AND WE HAVE 1/8 ROBINS
When I was 10-11 years old, I remember collecting Batman Lego sets, having a Batman sticker book I’d bring everywhere, and watching Batman TAS and the 60s Batman on The Hub. A decade later, I finally got the movie 10 year old me wanted to see.
It's funny, about the "batman being an antihero" thing. That's the problem a lot of batman fans have with his representations in media outside of animated/comic book stuff. Writers tend to not get the character. He is a hero and saves people in the comocs and DC animated universe, he's a good guy beneath all that show of darkness. The problem is that directors only read the fucking killing joke and the dark knight returns and think "yeah i know how this goes" and basically turn him into the fucking punisher.
The Riddler was such a damn menace, damn i loved his social media presence and all, paul dano is just a prince
He also made the Riddler more disturbing too because he's based on the Zodiac Killer according to Paul Dano.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 Yeah both visually and in terms of how he acts he feels like a mixture of Jigsaw aswell as the Zodiac Killer
@@sinneryy8662 Yeah. About Jigsaw? The part where Coulson had taken hostage with a bomb on the neck and Riddler gave him a chance by asking two questions before the bomb ticks to doom just reminds me of that otherwise.
What I think makes Paul Dano's Riddler especially engaging is how, when you see him at face value (without the mask and goggles get-up), he sort of has this "adorable nerd" look about him. No joke, he looked like someone I could've gone to school with. (I figured this about him when he was talking to Batman at Arkham). But then he smiles, begins shaking with intensity, and grows increasingly unstable during his and Bats' conversation, and that's when you see that the depths of his instability definitely go beyond his Riddler persona, making you uncomfortable with how well he builds up to that point. I also think the five minutes we saw of Druig as ...I mean, Barry Keoghan, as the Joker shows he will do great justice to the character one day. 👏
I loved how in some parts, it felt like a horror movie, where Batman is the monster, like the Penguin chase scene.
Also SPOILERS:
I think it's funny how one of the major roadblocks they came across was caused because Comm. Gordon thought that penguins had wings
i find funny how catwoman became somehow the only reason they discovered riddler's riddle, but at the same time, she somehow was manipulated into getting what she wanted to a degree (killing her mobster dad) but in the worse way possible by accident (as i doubt riddler even knew of catwoman)
@@ianr.navahuber2195 I think that was more of a happy accident as riddler genuinely believed he and Batman were working together
that’s cuz he’s enstills fear into his enemies
edit: spelling
I also like how Riddler doesn't know Spanish.
Or was it Alfred who doesn't know?
@@judeconnor-macintyre9874 it was probably more of Alfred not knowing and Bruce going with it
THANK YOU! You talked about everything I love about this movie!
I love all these reviews coming out saying how good the film is. All my friends thought it was trash, that Bruce wasn't a player enough or that the Riddle's riddles weren't good enough.
When I first watched the movie with my parents a few months back, I got really invested in Batman’s character arc, the action, the music, and the mystery! I found it to be a very tense, exciting, emotional, and thought-provoking film. And as soon as the credits started playing, my dad said “sorry guys... That was really bad”
I didn't say anything, I sat, confused about why I loved the movie while my dad thought it was average. I think for him, it was simply being burnt out by all the dark, gritty, Batman movies over the years, and I guess he just sorta saw it as more of that.
LOL Your friends don't know what they're talking about as Riddler's Riddles WERE FANTASTIC enough and Bruce Wayne was BRILLIANTLY portrayed as he LEARNS how to be better Bruce Wayne AND Batman at the end of this movie, as this was the whole point OF the movie.
Bruce's Trauma has deeply effected his entire life and well being. It's not about trying to portray a "play boy bachelor" at all, it's about showing a gloomy individual whose DEEPLY traumatized from his parent's death that he can't think or do anything else and I LOVE the way how it's done as Bruce can't be batman without his trauma but this still it's consumed his life so much that he's never moved past his parent's passing to have his own life. This Bruce Wayne looks like he's never had a girlfriend, much less slept with another girl, and DESPERATELY needs to leave his house and touch some grass and it's PERFECT! It's COMPLETELY perfect because Batman IS Bruce's trauma, and this movie had to showcase that he's so obsessed with being batman that he forget how to be himself and a proper human being. It's no different from Batman: Year One or Batman: Mask of the Phantasm, Batman IS the Trauma that makes Batman, BATMAN.
Batman's story will ALWAYS be a tragedy at heart as he can never be fully happy to be Batman.
But the point of this movie is showcase how Bruce can LEARN how to grow from that with his interactions with Selina so he can be a human again and learn HOW to be a better Batman for the people of Gotham by not being so full of rage but by being an inspiration of hope and love!
Absolutely NOTHING about this movie was "tRaSH" in the slightest as it was a 10/10 MASTERPIECE of a film entirely so!
@@the6597 LOL What?! NOT "Sorry" but your dad has NO idea on what he's talking about about as this movie was FAR being "rEalLy baD" in ANY way and FAR more than just "aVeRaGe" in ANY kind of way because Batman is SUPPOSED to be dark and gritty as a that's the WHOLE POINT of his character is supposed to be dark character and it fits PERFECTLY for this movie completely so! Nothing about it warrants ANYONE saying "SOrRy gUyS tHAt wAs rEAlLy bAD" because NOTHING about it was "rEaLlY bAd" in the slightest as this movie was a 10/10 MASTERPIECE of a movie and EASILY the best Batman ever made entirely as it captured EVERYTHING about what makes Batman BATMAN perfectly in this film in a masterclass way!
as an emo, I’m glad we’re finally getting some mainstream representation
Ben Shapiro just couldn't handle that progressive representation of emos
@@josjos-x5s that clown made me laugh when he said score is copied from hans zimmer 🤣
@@cactusmalone I know this was probably a joke but twilight is far far from emo
@@cactusmalone Don't most emos hate Twilight though?
Somebody in this reply section is going to make a su1c1d3 joke aren't they
One thing I liked about it, especially the second time through, is how they didn't feel like they had to explain any of batman's gadgets or behavior or anything.
In the dark knight movies, he always had to talk to alfred about why he was doing what he was doing. Every time he wanted to do something comic booky, he had to go to lucius fox and say "hey, I want to do this" and then he would smirk at him and say something snarky then they would go into the wayne R&D department and he would explain why the gadget exists and why the military didn't want it. It felt like everything either came from his time with the league of shadows or was rejected military tech.
It was nice that he could just have a grapple gun, a way to glide, a bat symbol that was also a knife, a utility belt with things like adrenaline and flares, a batmobile etc without the movie having to set it up. He's just batman, and other than the occasional voiceover the movie doesn't stop to explain how or why he batmans
I'm so happy that the Batmobile is literally just a muscle car with a rocket engine on the back.
Like, I can just imagine Batman, early on, just adding armor, removing the airbags and seat belts and kind of just jury rigging a jet to the back of a powerful car and going "good enough."
And nearly dying every single time he drives it for months. Looking back to it later he'd just shiver in fear from the death trap he built.
I like that i recently started watching your videos and im already analyzing movies and got really excited when the small cons you listed were exactly what i was thinking after watching the movie
5:11 Don't worry, I got teary-eyes aswell when Batman started helping the trapped citizens, specifically when the Mayor's son grabbed his hand.
I agree with a lot of your points, however I do disagree with the anti hero comment. Personally I see an anti-hero as someone who kills people for the greater good (ex: punisher). Batman however is not an anti-hero, as he has the no kill rule. I feel most people confuse Batman as an anti hero due to Zack Snyder’s portrayal and his dark nature, but those could not be further from the truth. One of the reasons why this movie succeeds is because they make a point to show his no kill rule as he does cherish human life, good or evil. Either way, really enjoyed your video and can’t wait to see more!
Overly Sarcastic Productions did a video on anti heroes and why it's hard to pin down what makes an anti hero an anti hero like even the punisher i'd say is more villainous or redeemed villain since his first comic appearance he was literally a villain hired to kill spiderman
True, but I don't really feel like they addressed it
I was hoping someone would point that out. Just because he’s moody and gritty and dark doesn’t make him an antihero at all. I wish people would stop saying that about him
I suspect a lot of people regard Batman as an anti-hero because of the weapons he chooses. Fear, preparation, deception, and cunning are a far cry from the overwhelming charisma/power you see on a Superman.
Anti-hero is mostly just a frustrating, opaque term.
Although, an anti-hero means a type of hero that is conspicuously flawed and lacked the quality of heroic traits (courageous, strong, humble, etc.). Alhough, Batman already has a quality of being a hero, but he only fits the "anti-hero" category in terms of character flaws.
gonna go see it tmrw with friends! can't wait and luv your vids
The Batman is in my top 10 favorite movies of all time now. It's incredible.
Batman’s not an anti hero. He works with cops, he doesn’t kill people, and he goes out of his way to save every life he can
Yeah when he said that I was like uhhh
hes not an anti hero, but that isn't what an anti hero is
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An anti hero is complicated
This is like the 5th cosmonaut variety hour direct quote I've seen in the top comments. Nice to see schaff and cosmo fans overlap.
@@gabrielacarrillo1740 Especially being both is really interesting
I think my favorite part of the movie was the flare scene that was shown in the trailer where it's batman in a dark flooded room with what I had thought were people going to attack him but in the movie he was actually helping them by leading them to safety. It really subverted what I had expected because the batman movies had almost always been heavy with fight scenes and violence. To see him saving people not on a city scale is nice to see and really shows why he is a hero who not only protects Gothem but the people who live there as well.
thanks for emphasising giacchino's efforts! been listening to the soundtrack on loop since i saw the movie on sunday, it's gorgeous
I really want to see this Batman grow. It would be awesome to see him take in a Robin, become closer with Catwoman, maybe even get a batgirl in the future as well.
The more friends Batman gets, the more empathetic and heroic he SHOULD become (looking at you comics).
I’d love to see this Batman with the whole Bat-Family holding him up.
I agree: this was the best Batman movie around. Almost better than The Dark Knight if I am being honest, because of how it took such a different view on vengeance and justice to an extent. Including pain and how to cope/come into terms with it. He is not an anti-hero, though, but a vigilante-- which is kinda the lawful version of an "anti-hero". But here, right at the end, I loved how he decided to more saving rather than just catch/beat up the bad guys. You can never stop crime, but you can give people the sliver of hope and peace they all deserve. He felt more grounded to me as a character. At the same time though, this Batman was hella intimidating. The Riddler scared me, but had me sympathize with him for the reasons that you've mentioned. The movie had me gripped to my seat and the score, oh my God... The car chase scene and the interview with Riddler chilled my bones.
Bro, the riddler is the most terrifying villain in a comic book movie ever, he seems so realistic and scary here, and also the way he killed his victims reminded so much of Jigsaw, his motive felt like Jigsaw, and they looked like saw traps and were clues
Can’t entirely agree with that, I'd EASILY say this movie is on par WITH the Dark Knight on it's OWN way in order to BE a 10/10 in it's own perfect way. I’d say this movie and the TDK are somewhat neck in neck as an overall movie but still THIS movie alone is already automatically better than TWO of the dark knight films but I would easily say I’d prefer this PHENOMENAL movie over ALL of them from what it's accomplished. This ENTIRE movie is a 10/10 MASTERPIECE! We have a batman movie where the best character in the film IS Batman/Bruce Wayne! Robert Pattinson is the BEST batman I've seen and he's PHENOMENAL as Batman AND Bruce Wayne entirely while still given him a new stylized look that's FANTASTIC to see! Love this movie to death as it's the BEST batman movie, felt like batman: the animated series BEAUTIFULLY brought to life with it's gorgeous Art Direction and aesthetics! MASTERPIECE of a film throughout!
@@Gadget-Walkmen Couldn't agree anymore, this movie is a 10/10 and the aesthetics are superb. Robert Pattinson truly blew it out of the park being Batman/Bruce Wayne. In all honesty, it's the best Batman movie I've ever seen.
@@natrodrz Same. Can not WAIT for more. There were criticism from this video that i just found entirely invalid as I could counter them all that scharf because I found this movie PERFECT all across the board! The BEST batman/bruce wayne and BEST batman movie with the a perfect cast for the BEST plot for it easily!
The best way I can summarise this movie is that it's the first comic book movie that feels like a comic book. By which I mean, it feels like I just picked this off a shelf, I don't know all the context or the characters, but this is just a story that takes place in this world. It knows what it is, what the audience is and what it needs to do
watch kickass, movie is a comic book
*Cough* Spider-Man 2 and Spider-Man Into The Spider-Verse *Cough*
Watched the movie today, one of the best movies I’ve ever seen, I absolutely love it. The action and cinematography along with the audio, were so well done. Also, it’s kind of a cool Easter egg that the lyrics ‘underneath the bridge, tarp has sprung a leak’ are heard when Gotham is flooded, that was kind of cool
The Batman was great . IT didnt obviously come close to the true masterpiece Morbius. But IT was great...
I lost it when you said "Riddler's army of reddittors" 🤣🤣
Ave Maria in a minor key kind of felt like it was alluding to the corruption of Gotham's upper echelons but also to the Riddler's ideology and childhood being twisted parallels to Bruce's
Oh, I cried at that moment near the end too. It was really done so well.
I felt the same way about seeing Batman helping people during the day. It was so jarring seeing the sun coming up without him heading back to the Bat Cave, but it just gradually shifted to an overall hopeful feeling
I wish they spent more time on Alfred but besides that this movie really good. Not as good as The Dark Knight but it's definitely in my top 3 Batman Movie.
Same man! Maybe in a sequel we see more of him? :0
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I loved this movie, nothing else to say. Battinson was the perfect choice for it.
THE CAR CHASE SCENE oh my GOD
I had goosebumps throughout that whole chase sequence. And when he walks towards the camera, goddamn, I could just feel literal chills all over.
When the Batmobile emerged from the flames I physically threw my fists in the air, it was something I didn't know I needed
They call it a masterpiece like they can't see the flaws in it at all
Congradiulations you convinced me to watch the movie with just the title. I just got back from the cinema and i as a marvel fan i never thouth id like a Batman movie yet i loved this one.
IM SO EXCITED YOU POSTED ABOUT THIS MOVIE YOURE MY FAV MOVIE REVIEWER
The flare scene gives me chills. Loved seeing Robert Pattinson prove all the haters wrong. Loved the casting since it was announced.
Those "haters" are mindless tools who don't understand anything about Pattinson as he was FANTASTIC in SO many other movies outside the twilight films that they didn't see clearly. The blind twilight hate is so annoying to see from people, they most likely never even saw any of those movies, just bandwagoning.
I loved EVERYTHING about this movie entirely! I'd EASILY say this movie is on par WITH the Dark Knight on it's OWN way in order to BE a 10/10 in it's own perfect way. I’d say this movie and the TDK are somewhat neck in neck as an overall movie but still THIS movie alone is already automatically better than TWO of the dark knight films but I would easily say I’d prefer this PHENOMENAL movie over ALL of them from what it's accomplished. This ENTIRE movie is a 10/10 MASTERPIECE! We have a batman movie where the best character in the film IS Batman/Bruce Wayne! Robert Pattinson is the BEST batman I've seen and he's PHENOMENAL as Batman AND Bruce Wayne entirely while still given him a new stylized look that's FANTASTIC to see! Love this movie to death as it's the BEST batman movie, felt like batman: the animated series BEAUTIFULLY brought to life with it's gorgeous Art Direction and aesthetics! MASTERPIECE of a film throughout!
One of my only complaints is that Alfred just kinda disappears after his scene with Bruce in the hospital. That bugged me.
Tbf, if there are to be sequels to this, they may show more of Alfred after he gets healed up or something. I was actually surprised by that too, but I'm guessing he wasn't meant to have as much screen time as previous iterations of Alfred had in Matt Reeves's version. Who knows.
Mf got blown up
@@thiccmilkdaddy8072 and survived, but barely.
Probably because Alfred is pre occupied with Venom Let There Be Carnage
Well he is in hospital
I watched this movie three times.. First with my father, then with my girlfriend, and then my friend wanted to see it.
The scores are my favorite, especially during the fight chase scene with the Penguin when goes to Batman rip off the car door and as he walks towards it the music and the clanking of his boots in the rain was perfect.
I love how scary Batman actually genuinely is in this movie. The way he just appears out of the shadows, the only sound being his slow footsteps, this movie absolutely sold me on why the people of Gotham are afraid of Batman, everything from his movement to how his suit looks, and knowing how messed up mentally Bruce is in this movie, for the first time I was thinking to myself "god damn, if I saw that dude just slowly appear out of the shadows and just stood there in the dark, I would be scared shitless"
5:31 I gotta disagree with Batman being an anti hero, if you’ve read the comics it shows how Batman values human life and is more human than Superman. The Snyder movies neglected this and opted to show Batman killing and that’s something he would never do. Batman does value human lives he just doesn’t show it well, Batman became a superhero so no one has to go through what he had as a kid other than that great review!
Batman is just an edgy paragon
Unfortunately, some jacksass bring up the fact that in the early ages Batman used fire weapon an excuses, literally in the early ages of his character were not even his moral code was established
I agreed with the entire video except that he said that batman is an anti-hero
Nah, man Clark is way more human than Bruce. Clark grew up as a kid with loving parents and regular friends, going to school, falling in love, working on the farm. Bruce had almost none of that, as such he's emotionally stunted.
Except Snyder’s movies stated outright that Batman is wrong, and he was losing his way.
That’s the whole point. Just like him becoming a hero again in JL is the point.
Disagree with what you said about Penguin. He stole every scene he was in, really likeable character because he reacts to everything with a very sarcastic tone, lightens up every scene he is in. Like, they can casually sprinkle in other villains without making it such a big deal.
Completly agree
his character was my favorite in the movie.
He also played a vital role in the story, as his revelation about Batman misinterpreting Riddler's, well, riddle was a major plot point about who was actually the rat among the mafia groups.
I liked that he was a mafia boss or whatever, but he wasn't straight up stupid evil, he stopped the batman when he was wrecking his nightclub (well, atleast the guards), he talked with him, he felt like a genuine person, not a villain, I actually acknowledged his presence instead of just thinking "oh it's the penguin man that shoots with his umbrella and walks weird and has weird bodily proportions and maybe water super-powers?????"
Actually, everyone in the movie felt real, real things that real (crazy) people would do (except catwoman just kissing the batman out of nowhere???? that felt forced and very awkard)
He's also very clearly being setup to takeover the business is the next movie and I am here for it. I love seeing some of the lesser talked about Batman villains, cuz they're so good. I was actually disappointed to see the Joker at the end of the movie. For a solid second, in the shadows, he looked like Two-Face and I stopped breathing. Give me Two-Face, give me Mr. Freeze, give me Solomon Grundy.
This captured ALL my thoughts, especially about *that* scene being a tearjerker. I had a hand over my mouth in the cinema. Just STUNNING.
The final moments in the stadium and on the roof of the stadium did bring a tear to my eye, very unexpected but also just wow
It's kinda sad how movies tend to forget how heroic batman really is, in the animated series as well as in the comics he is the kind of person that tries to help not only the citizens but criminals as well, there are many instances where he tries to talk to them and empathize with them or get them the help they need as Bruce Wayne using his money.
I am so glad this movie tackled Batman’s heroic side more at the end. I feel like way too many Batman writers forget that, underneath the brooding and the martial arts, he’s still a man who just wants to help people and do what is right to protect them. He’d give his life for others with no hesitation.
I remember this Batman comic where they’re at his funeral. Clay face is speaking at it, and he reveals Batman died trying to save him. Clay face tried telling him it’s not worth it, but Batman just told him ‘everyone’s worth it’.
Oh yeah, and also there’s a metaphor in there during the flood scene about how he’s literally the only light in the darkness trying to lead others out to safety, including a kid who also lost his parents similarly to how Bruce lost his
I have seen this movie 3 times already. I swear It is still good after each time. I continue to notice more details about the movie when I watch it each time.
Watching this in theatres actually made me feel like a child again, it had the perfect suspension that I used to feel back when I was a kid. Glad that I got to see it again in theatres for a second time.
This is the first movie I’ve seen where I can see the true cinematic moments that make it amazing. The score, the cinematography, the casting, and so and and so forth. This was a fantastic film.
3:25 love that theres no timestamp to skip spoilers lol
I noticed that too 🤣
i honestly just love this movie so much, mainly because this movie has the right twists and even in the right places. All in all this to me is one of my favorite hero movies.
I’m glad you enjoyed the film because you took the words out of my mouth.
Are we not gonna talk about how terrifying the Riddler was? I was suffocating in horror everytime he appeared in a transmission or video
Oh man, every video he shot was *spectacularly* disturbing, it was like something you'd see off the Dark Web! (Or the snuff films from Scott Derrickson's Sinister, which I'd been especially reminded of through the rat video). You wanted to look away, you knew you should, but you're engrossed all the same...kudos to Paul Dano for evoking such a sense!
The second they announced Paul Dano's playing the Riddler, I was really excited, and Dano knocked it out of the park in this film
I just wish he didn't wear a mask for most of the movie, Dano is such a perfect fit for the role it's a real shame to cover his acting with a barf bag.
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Arguably the scene where he scared me the most was the one where we saw his face.
But also, this scene was just pure tension. I actually physically felt tense as he was repeatedly saying the name he was saying.
The reveal in that scene were you get that he wasn't talking to the perso but merely about the person was so well done.
I was laughing so hard at the little insta live heart things. It’s was good! But it wasn’t that scary to me. I was having an excellent time though.
Hey Schaff! My sister brought up an excellent point. During the scene when batman saves all those people from the flood, the way the scene is shot is like Moses parting the red sea. The red flare he holds makes the water look red as he saves the people following behind him. They mentioned moses earlier in the film as well, I think during the first investigation of the Mayor? I'm sure people have already pointed it out but if it was intentional I thought that was really cool.
I KNEW I WASNT THE ONLY ONE TO LOVE THAT SOUNDTRACK
*I completely agree about the score*
He's one of my top 5 favorite movie composers. His work on Speed Racer being my favorite surprisingly
the main reason why i love battinson (aside from that one shot of his hair and eye makeup all messed up 🤤 *cough* WHAT I DIDN’T SAY ANYTHING) is that he says so much by saying so little. it makes the subtle squeaking of his suit sound deafening.
i got the mayor’s funeral scene as a midroll ad 3 times recently. i was so invested each time i kept thinking i was watching the movie. but my favorite part is that bruce wayne doesn’t say a single word. at one point he looks solemnly at the mayor’s son and they lock eyes for a moment. now having seen the film last night, i understand its context and realized it parallels an earlier moment. when batman accompanies gordon at the crime scene of the mayor’s murder, he stops to make eye contact with the young boy when he’s being interrogated. the mayor’s son is unnamed in the credits, so it’s possible it can be a young robin, and the eye contact can be foreshadowing a connection between the two of them in the future. i don’t know of any robins who have the last name mitchell, but for all we know matt reeves could create an entirely new robin and i would love to see it.
anyway 9/10 movie but the lego batman movie is still my personal favorite batman movie fight me. and i’m absolutely living for the michael giacchino praise
edit: watched it for the 4th time and it’s a 10/10 never mind. batnett supremacy tho
So I'm not the only one who was loving that scene with the makeup- 🥴 I MEAN HIS ACTING.
Dude, that makeup was amazing
I mean you're not wrong, TLBM is an amazing and hilarious deconstruction of Batman
My dad said he heard something about Pattinson being called "boring" by one critic before we saw the movie, and after watching it, I highly disagree. This is clearly a man who bottles his emotions for preservation reasons, but even so, he is unable to hold back at the hard-hitting moments that strike him deep. Like when Falcone told him what he knew about his parents, we can see the pain in his eyes as he's forced to take it all in. Then when Bruce is talking to Alfred in the hospital and hearing the *real* truth, and how desperately Alfred wanted to shield him from all that, we see how much this level of caring affects him, reminding him how close he was to losing his last real family member. And because of how relatively stoic Pattinson is for much of the film, these subtle moments of vulnerability hit that much harder.
Huge agree!! Batman should be able to communicate a lot without even opening his mouth. The classic "bat glare" from the cartoons is just one example of how much Bruce can communicate nonverbally. I LOVE those scenes where he's just slowing pacing the crime scene trying to figure things out and only occasionally offering a correction.
I even agree on his looks. He's so mopey and his hair is so messy, he's like the cutest Bruce Wayne ever wtf
The fear factor in this movie is absolutely stunning
When an inmate said a riddle about a *friend…*
_If he’s going to have a past, he would prefer it to be multiple choice._
I honestly knew the movie was gonna be good with that opening "it's not just a signal it's a warning"