When the opening and ending of the movie are literally delivered with the inner monologues of the main character, it really does give you some sense on how personal this take will be
Robert Patterson is obviously a younger more "renegade" Batman he rolls around on a motorbike dressed like a Gen-X slacker where Nolan's Batman was more mature and established
@@Johnnysmithy24 Exactly. Comics have a lot of inner narration and this was a great way to show that. It felt like Batman: Year One in this regard where Bruce keeps a journal on his exploits.
@@marcusmcneal7453 I personally didn't like how grounded this version was, I understand that was the intention, but I was frankly disappointed by how weak batman was perceived.
I can understand wanting a more expressive color palette but you must remember the context in which Nolan’s trilogy was made. It was a conscious choice to make dark knight less stylistic even in comparison to Batman begins. This is kind of what people wanted from that trilogy at the time as we were coming off of Schumachers highly stylized but otherwise empty films. Art is always contextual. The Batman being more stylized makes sense to 2024 but it also puts that above actual subtext
I am a big fan of the Nolan films. This one was also great. It was a really cool take on Batman. Robert Pattinson did an excellent job. You can really see the pain in his eyes throughout the film. Great job with your analysis as usual
I absolutely loved this movie. Not to say that the Dark Knight was not good BUT Pattinson killed this part. he was superb. he made you believe that he was a withdrawn brooding individual tat was torn up inside. I absolutely loved tha way he looked at people in the move either cops or whomever that asked him ridiculous questions - and all he had to do was make a little turn of his head or a stare with those great looking eyes in the cowl and that is all you would need to know that you do not want to mess with this guy. And remember words are not needed by the batman- just actions and silence and his facial or body movements. he made yo believe that he should not be toyed with. Just watch him specifically in any one of these scenes and he blows you away. I hope he realizes how wonderfully he played the role of this truly brooding and torn superhero. It was spectacular. Even at the end when he is riding away in his motorcycle- when he is looking into the mirror ar Seline driving away then turns his eyes ever so slightly to the front and glares ahead- with ferocity--- that is all it takes- he is truly the best Batman I have ever seen. Kudos to his acting chops- truly a masterpiece.
I feel that the batman took alot of inspiration from Nolan movies. But was a great movie, it was just too slow and at times too predictable. We never were discovering with batman, there wasn't any plot twists, we knew the villians and even his father story line didnt work. and the ending just could have been done much better. I wish batman caught the riddler.
A few great choices by Matt Reeves in no particular order. 1) The subtle but noticeable reaction both times as Bruce/ Batman encounters the mayor's son. A. wealthy young man with horrific first-hand knowledge of the death of a parent. 2) showing us the visceral fear and hesitation Batman encounters before jumping off the roof of police headquarters. A pretty understandable reaction. 3) taking us to the conclusion of that jump. Batman was right to be afraid, he gets hurt. Not too badly but enough that we see he is in serious pain. 4) stalling the Batmobile. Hey, stuff happens to Batman too. 5) the look on Batman's face as the catastrophic highway accident begins to unfold. You can see this chase isn't going the way he had envisioned. 6) taking Alfred's hand in the hospital. It's very subtle but several people have extended their hand to Batman throughout the movie. Alfred is the first one he's actually taken. Alfred isn't Bruce's father but now Bruce has had Alfred far longer than he had Thomas in his life. He was wrong to distance himself from Alfred and knows it now. In a way he has been fighting crime with the help of his dad. Just not his biological one. 7) the well-educated Batman doesn't speak Spanish and his wealthy upbringing doesn't allow him to recognize a common flooring tool. 8) his realizations that you can't punch crime away, he needs to be a symbol of both fear to the evil and hope to the good and that he is at least partially responsible for the Riddler. Batman's expression upon hearing henchmen also called himself "vengeance" was very well done.
erm actually to disagree with your number 7, when Alfred tells him the message means El Rata Alada, Bruce actually understands him and translates it into a rat with wings which means he atleast actually has a basic understanding of the language. 🤓
@@adrianisdahbomb1175 Because people, and especially police/detectives, always make the right decision and are incapable of stupid mistakes. Therefore, the Batman is bad writing.
@@rajimus “it’s awful” is not valid criticism. If you’re going to criticize something, have a valid and in depth explanation that doesn’t revolve around “I dont like it and I unironically suck cock”
I don’t know why everyone says he stalls the Batmobile. He clearly WANTED the penguin to race him. He also wanted to give catwoman time to get away. He merely revs it because the background comic included for this film showed that he got good a driving and fixing up cars from street racing. He’s still young and angry and boisterous so he wants to really hunt down the penguin.
Let's also remember, that you need a solid actor to create the "intimacy" and "emotionally engaging" you speak of and Robert Pattinson did that. Props to Battinson!
I love the Nolan trilogy but I liked The Batman for its introduction to "Year Two" Batman, which is more faithful to the comics. In addition, Nolan's Batman was never really depicted as "The World's Greatest Detective" as Batman was originally presented as. I loved in the start of the movie that Gordon brought him to the crime scene so he could look around and give his opinion on what had occurred. Christian Bale's Batman also had a guy who had all his military-grade tech ready made for him, pretty much; all he had to do was paint it black and make a few minor modifications. The Batman's Bruce Wayne makes a midair miscalculation with his Bat-flight suit and crashes into the sidewalk-just like you'd expect Year Two Batman to do. He's still raw, angry, and trying to figure out how he's going to go about fighting crime. But, that's just my POV.
I was thinking at first Pattinson was like too gloomy and emo to be a bruce wayne and a batman Then I realized he was mourning and angry. And people, even with money, don't just be an efficient elite vigilante in a short span of time. I don't think people would even like a vigilante in real life, due to the blurred line between violence and justice.
yeah battinson is depictected as the world's greatest detective and couldn't even consider that a rat with wings could be a bat (i mean the dude is literally dressed like a bat) and he figured it out cause penguin told him that it sounds like a bat, are you serious, i mean come on seriosusly, penguin is like the most boderline r e t a r d e d character in the movie, and batman "the world's greatest detective" couldn't figure out a riddle that even a penguin figured out ???
@@jaiom4229 That's such a lie. It's not the greatest detective movie ever made but also it's not trying to be. The movie is called THE BATMAN after all...oh wait my bad...I thought you were expecting Se7en 2...🤦
My favorite moment of any Batman character on the small or big screen is when he is trying to escape and you see the initial fear when he looks off the side of the building. This 3-4 second gem humanizes Batman in a way no one else has. It draws the viewer in because we can relate to that fear he felt and we share that same feeling with him. He is not simply a machine that takes risks with no emotion, he is a man that has to face his fear to accomplish a goal. It is a tremendous part of the character's growth and you see later in the movie that he does not hesitate when face with a similar situation. Not to mention, his motivations in those different moments. He hesitates when the only motivation is his own self-preservation. At the end, he jumps confidently because the focus is saving others. Really nice detail and depth this version brought to the character.
I've heard a lot that Nolan films tend to be emotionally distant and cold. Even though I vaguely agreed with that criticism, I never found it totally convincing. Your points about Nolan's shot selection, framing and color correction resonated a lot with me. His Dark Knight trilogy really have a pristine sheen to it which looks great in IMAX but maybe takes away from the movie's character. Batman Begins is probably the only one that actually tries to create a gothic atmosphere and leans into it's imperfections. It also happens to be the only movie where Bruce Wayne feels like the main character. The Dark Knight is a master class in narrative momentum but it leaves a lot to be desired in terms of meaningful character moments for Batman. They are still fantastic movies but I think I'm starting to realize that my taste in movies began to change with age.
It always bothered me how different gotham looked like in the sequels, it went from looking like a cool dystopian city to just New York with a different name
@@bensadfleck9972 I think it is a metaphor about batman's effect on gotham on batman begins gotham looks dirty and Gothic because at that time it was corrupt and it needed batman and in tdk batman has made it a better city so it looks better than it did in tdkr and after the dent act gotham looks like a great city in tdkr since there was no organised crime for years
Matt Reeves should not even be mentioned in the same sentence as the likes of Christopher Nolan and Stanley Kubrick. Such directors are in a completely different league of filmmaking. Matt Reeves is a decent competent director, but that's about it.
I absolute love the Dark Knight even tho I do think it is quite overrated mainly due to the people saying that it is the best movie ever made. It's definitely one of the best superhero films for sure. I never saw TDK as a Batman film tbh. It has always been about Harvey Dent and Joker. I also think they made the right decision to not develop the Joker at all and instead made into this force of nature. I thought Harvey Dent's fall to Two Face was done in a way that is kinda okay even though there are things I like to question about him. But I completely dislike the ending to the film, it felt unsatisfying seeing Two Face just die so quickly and easily and Batman's sacrifice could've been very easily avoided. I saw the movie not long ago and I would probably give it another watch but for now, I think I prefer the Batman due to its focus on Batman and just how the movie makes you FEEL. "It really makes you FEEL like Batman" LMAO
Everyone that said this movie sucked because Bruce wasn’t just another James Bond doesn’t actually appreciate Batman as a character. He’s still so new to the Batman and is struggling to become something more than a boogeyman in the night. Best Batman movie ever IMO
@@jakubowczarek1519everything about Pattinson Batman screams “a work in progress.” The suit, the gadgets, the squirrel suit built into the suit, even the car are prototypes of sort. The same thing is happening with his psyche. He’s mentally been Batman for so long he doesn’t remember how to be Bruce Wayne. I’m sure in the next movie you will see a lot of upgrades
I love how these films can coexist and one isn't all out better than the other. For example, in Batman Begins the dock scene where Batman first appears plays out like an Alien or Predator horror movie. Something moving fast in the shadows and picking people off one by one. But in The Batman you can HEAR him slowly approaching you. An unstoppable force that is coming for you and there's nothing you can do about it, like Michael Myers or Jason Voorhees. Both films adopt horror movie tropes and that's amazing to me.
I’m a huge Batman movie fan, and have watched the Burton series when I was a child, and grew up into an adult with Nolan. I love them all to this day. But this Batman was the only one that made me care about the character. I realized how much the former films relied on the villains and not Bruce. This Bruce was so sad and emotionally stunted, and the movie captures it masterfully.
Helen Im-Same. I loved The Dark Knight trilogy, though the 2 Tim Burton Batman movies were always my favourite Batman movies as I also grew up with those movies, & you're right, most of the movies usually put a lot of focus on the villains. Watching Robert Pattinson's portrayal of Batman/Bruce Wayne, is the first time since seeing Michael Keaton as Batman, that I've felt like i really connected with the character emotionally during a live action Batman movie.
The close up shot and depth of field actually complements the talent of the actors and it is why we keep finding little details specially with Robert's eyes throughout the movie. How he seemed shocked and betrayed when he was being confronted from Gordon in GCPD after the bomb, the moment he said "You too?" his eyes and face just expressed that he felt betrayal. Also when he was riding the bike in the end and look through the mirror seeing Selina riding away from him, we see him daydream for a second, the life he could have before he blinked again and looked forward, more focused!
Another great moment without talking: When they found Catwoman friend in that corrupt cop car. How he was looking at Selina and then how shocked his eyes were when he realized Selina's friend corpse was RIGHT THERE. He looked like he was blaming himself for not being able to save her.
You nailed the reasons why this film has had such a huge effect on me. It’s a weird thing but the more I see the film, the more I love it. That’s a rare phenomenon in this age of CBM’s.
When you watch it again you notice lots of things that make it such a masterpiece. Such as when the Penguin was bound in the alley and on the long shot as they drive off you see him waddle like an actual Penguin because of the restraints. Also the way Riddler seemingly knew Batman's identity and how he actually didn't was brilliant writing, in that you saw Batman in a corner, thinking the game was up and got to experience it with him with all the closeups. Then there's the awesome soundtrack throughout, the sound design, colour grading, cinamatic shots.... it all comes together gorgeously. My favourite scene is when the camera is upside down with Batman walking slowly from the flames towards Penguin in the car.
The Batman misses the point the Riddler. The riddler is just a show off know it all with a superiority complex. The Riddler doesn’t care about “vengeance”. Matt Reeves should have done Two-face if he wanted to explore a bad version of Batman’s “vengeance” being out of control. The movie should have been about Sal Marioni disfiguring Dent after Dent almost exposes the Gotham Renewal act. And Dent goes on his rampage as Two-Face against every single person involved.
This movie is my favorite beginning of a Batman franchise and easily my favorite Batman interpretation.This movie showcases how one deals with darkness in their lives which is shown through the three orphans of the Movie who grew up in darkness:Catwoman,Batman and Riddler and seek to exact vengeance in their own way.Unlike Bruce the other 2 lived differently and Bruce sees how different their lives were as opposed to him.Catwoman lived in darkness for so long that she was trying to get back at the one who was the source of it.Batman feels dull because in this movie unlike all the previous iterations,he actually is learning how to be a hero and symbol at a solid pace.If this was the seasoned comic version of Batman nothing in this movie wouldn’t be suspenseful at all.The biggest problem when adapting Batman is because he easily seems too capable in every situation he is in.This is why in all his movies he usually is a backseat player or reactive way too late.Pattinson in tandem with the cinematography tells so much with his facial expressions and movements,especially how it subtly tells his origin in the shots when Bruce looks at the kid.This Incredible sense of detail and distinct style not only give Gotham a distinct atmosphere but makes it feel like a character drenched in darkness as well.Imo this movie used its 3 hours perfectly, with a huge mystery story like this you need a lot of Time fleshing out the detective angle and unraveling a mystery.This movie was never trying to be a absolute continuation of the comic version of Batman,it’s an interpretation while following a noire story.This movie follows the ongoing narrative about Batman excellently. It’s about Moving past ones darkness into the light and Batman rediscovering his humanity and the good of the common man through mostly Gordon,and people who want to make a difference.Which leads to someone who is the antithesis,Riddler who lost his humanity and tries to plummet gotham into everlasting darkness.This gives batman/Bruce a palatable character arc which is something previous Batman movies failed to do.This arc makes Bruce feel real rather than writers defaulting to writing superficial ideas of darkness and glorification of violence.
Having had some time to think about it, I'm pretty confident in saying Pattinson is my favorite Batman thus far. In fact, I'd say it's my favorite Batman film altogether. The Nolan films were great in their own right, fun action movies that made the caped crusader superhero fantasy accessible to anyone. But there's a certain artistry and reverence for the source material here that just feels more authentic, less compromising. It doesn't feel like I even need to see a prequel series of a sequel film. It just stands on its own as a visually engrossing and thoughtful take on Batman. I had really low expectations for this going in, especially when the lady at the counter warned us it was a 3 hour movie, but as soon as it started I felt a huge wave of relief. The way they humanized Bruce and took Batman back to his "world's greatest detective" roots made this movie feel so refreshing. And I can't lie, I actually want to go back to the theatres and see all 3 hours of it again. This video did an incredible job of breaking down the many technical and artistic reasons I haven't been able to stop thinking about this movie. Great work.
@@DrMcMoist doesn't necessarily mean the movie will be bad but going into the theater for a 3 hour movie can be pretty daunting. I guess I was just worried it was going to be a slog (we were originally planning on seeing Sonic that night) but it turned out to be one of my favorite superhero movies ever.
@@kenny42069 Yeah it really is. I mean the first film is decent but Matt Reeves took over to direct the two sequels and they are really good. I went into The Batman fully expecting it to be a good movie because of them. I'd recommend you check them out.
I both liked and hated that this movie was so claustrophobic with its very close-angle shots. You’re like in the characters’ faces all the time, including in the car chase. *Hated* because it had me tense and anxious the whole movie, but *liked* because it had me invested and completely attentive - hooked. That was brilliant
@GhastGhost13 I had the same problem For a different reason, you really expect me to hold my pee for 3 hours? I had to go at What I think was probably not an important scene in the movie but it probably is
You’re giving Reeves at lot of credit on shot direction and visual style. Greig Fraser played a huge role in both of those aspects and is a master at creating stunning images that truly act as a plot device and not just hanging his hat on a marquee visual style (I.e. Wes Anderson films).
Felt like Batman was gonna break his no killing rule in this film in some scenes Robert did the dark knight so good felt like every criminal he beat up was the man who killed his parents.
That’s not Batman’s rule it’s no killing with a gun cause he never stopped killing in the comics or on the movies except for Clooney he just won’t use the weapon that was used to take the life of his father originally Martha died from the shock the first retelling of the murder had her being shot Also there is to many to list of times he has killed in the comics
@@majumder456his very first comic he hung someone from the bat plane it wasn't until the 80s that he stopped killing people 😂 hell even Michael Keatons version killed in the first one he didn't stop people from dying 😂 but after him into the 90s they stopped having him kill in the movies and comics
I love Nolan's trilogy and those movies are easier to watch. Fast-paced, epic and with a lot of action but The Batman is more like a comic of Batman than the Nolan trilogy. The Batman IS Batman.
@@vittoriacolona Tell me you didn't understand Rorschach without telling me you didn't' understand Rorschach. Or you mean Zack Snyder's interpretation (wrong interpretation) of Rorschach?
Nah I lost interest halfway through. There is no Bruce Wayne in The Batman, he barely exist, so your argument goes out the window. Let's not forget the godawful opening scene that establishes Batman is widely feared in Gotham, so then when he shows up, goons have to ask who he is, so he can say that idiotic line, and we have an artificially stale moment after that Rambo action scene of a climax. Patterson carried that mess of a film real well.
Nolan also did a pretty deep take on the Batman/Bruce Wayne in Batman Begins - but he did it differently. As you said, Nolan's character was more stoic, and that was his way to deal with the emotions after the whole yourney through the film. Reeves Batman is more voulnareble, and willing to confront his emotions, to dig out the throuth, instead of hiding it. That is the main difference, and it shows also the change in society - we stopped perceiving emotions as a weakness (overcoming ot using fear, and grief like a tool in Nolan's trilogy). We generally see them as strenght, source of humanity, and wisdom instead. That's why I love both takes on Batman - it shows different perspectives.
Also hated how they treated Batman in the Nolan films. Bruce Wayne was the person and Batman was nothing but a mask. WRONG! BATMAN is the man, BRUCE WAYNE is the mask
This is an absolutely brilliant analysis. Will check out more of your content as I'm slowly getting more into film reviews and watching them for the art
I loved the Nolan series but The Batman put me through so many emotions, what a great piece of cinema. Thank you for the breakdown on this, I love learning more about film making
"The Batman" is indeed a breath of fresh air in the super-hero movie landscape. I still like Nolan's trilogy, but Reeves' given me my favorite Batman - second only to TAS.
Nolan's Batman felt nothing like actual "Batman" as everyone remembers and associates him with mystery and darkness, except his Batman is more of smart and tactician strategic man. Reeves' take is my favorite because he kept the mystery and association with "fear" Batman presents to criminals, also he is most accurate to comics.
There seems to be a ton of little details sprinkled throughout the movie that pay homage to all the Batmen that came before it. The one thing I can’t unsee now is Adam Wests mask in Pattinsons mask.
The Batman was an incredible movie, loved the amazing cinematography, story, Michael Giacchino’s soundtrack was perfect, the opening scene leading to the Batman reveal was absolute perfection. Robert Pattinson and Paul Dano stole the show as Batman and Riddler, excited for the sequel. 👏👏👏👏
I never noticed just how often Reeve's used a shallow depth of field, that definitely made a massive impact. I love The Batman, I just rewatched the Nolan trilogy to fairly compare them and I still think I enjoy Reeve's take more, like you said in Nolan's i'm watching a movie about Batman but in Reeve's i'm experiencing the movie as if I was there myself.
I felt more attached with matt reeves batman then the Nolan's one. I never thought that DOF can do so much with our brain and physiology to make scenes extremely personal. And hats off to Pattinson for putting out exact amount of emotions on camera that make batman feel more human form of superhero. And really thanks for this awesome analysis. 👏
We only watched one movie from Matt Reeves and we connect with Reeves' Bruce more than Nolan's. Can't wait for the next movie. Hopefully overused Joker isn't in Reeves'trilogy
What really sticks out to me is that this movie *feels* so different, but is still most certainly a Batman film. The emphasis on Batman using his detective skills, more than his combat was very much appreciated, especially since there *is* fighting, but they don't overcook it. It's like the filmmakers knew that the audience knows that Batman is a badass fighter. So they tried to show a side of Batman that had only been touched on, but not necessarily explored, in previous films.
Oh, absolutely. Best live action Batman in my lifetime. Hands down. His Bruce Wayne looks downright haunted. Yet, at the end, it gave us a glimpse of Batman’s heart. A light in the darkness. So good. They GET Batman in a way I don’t believe Nolan did.
@@brupac5017 TDK was never the best Batman movie, people online were citing Begins as being a better Batman story looooong before Reeves' Batman came out, while TDK was basically the Joker's film
I read that Matt reeves painstakingly went over every shot and sometimes took up to 200+ takes to get details just right (eg. he made Zoe keep her mouth slightly open in one scene because the difference would convey a different emotion). It was definitely well worth the effort, as you pointed out here - I’m definitely going to rewatch this with all these narrative details in mind
Another thing I realised when watching Nolan’s films was how I seemingly resonated better with the villains and anti-heroes rather than Batman/Bruce Wayne, with the exception of Batman Begins. Whilst I never fully sympathised with Joker, Bane or Harvey Dent (to an extent), I would be lying if I didn’t say that some of their actions were justified. I could never fully relate or sympathise with Bruce Wayne as well as I could with the villains. Pattinson engrossed me. His 2 monologues were moving and powerful, the cinematography does a great job at highlighting an intense gothic atmosphere with lots of emotion and most importantly the actual character of Batman in Reeves’ felt more organic. Nolan’s Batman seemed to have Batman always trying to be ‘better’ than the villain, I never remembered him empathising or understanding the justification of the villains. Pattison’s on the other hand acknowledges the disgust and filth of Gotham. He tells Gordon that the men killed by Riddler deserved it because they were just as bad, if not worse, than the criminals he is fighting. I found this to be much more relatable. He’s able to see Gotham for what it truly is which is why he’s always so angry and brooding (you can see it in his fighting style) compared to Bale’s which I never really felt was conveyed well especially when the cinematography felt so grand and bright.
You hit the nail on the head. I found myself connecting more with Pattinson's Batman than with Bale's. And I say this as someone who loves the Nolan films.
This video is just as well made as the movie, this really wraps up everything good about the movie, it's visuals, it's characters, and it's themes, and smoothly connects them all together.
I think another reason this movie works really well is because it’s set in its own universe. It’s not pressurized to work in a narrative that fits in with those of other movies set in the same universe. That way, the movie has enough room to truly focus on it’s own character’s story and build around its own plot. The same can be said for Nolan’s trilogy and I think this is the best way for DC movies to shine on their own.
For this movie to be made, the nolan films had to be made. It’s a great breath of fresh air for Batman on the big screen! Both reeves and nolan share the top spot
Because I very much enjoyed all your content and honestly learned a lot from it I trust your opinion. That means: I have to watch that movie now because of your first sentences in your video and watch the video afterwards. I really enjoy having found your channel! Great work!
Perfect analyzation. It’s why The Batman and TDK are equal for me. A movie finally from Batman’s perspective as the main focus for once and not just a plot device.
I never loved the nolan movies as much as other people did. idk for me it was just always missing something about Batman, perhaps it's the ambience. perhaps it's the way christan bale portrays batman, maybe it's the lack of detective work beyond a few scenes. idk growing up watching the animated series, reading the comic and being a huge batman fan my entire life has always made me have certain expectations for my batman movies. Nolan as great of a director as he is, just missed the mark for me. tdk is really good becuase of Heath tbh. he's the person who really sells the movie for me. The Batman however scratched that batman itch I've had for awhile now it just made me feeling like I was watching a comic come to life. It felt like the batman I knew. The person who sold this movie for me was the character I came to see, batman. so congrats Robert Pattinson you're my favorite live action batman.
I blame Christian Bale's wooden acting to some extent, but the direction and writing aren't great either. Christopher Nolan wants soooooooo badly to be seen as an intellectual filmmaker, and in the process beats the viewer over the head with concepts that either aren't nearly as complex as he thinks they are, or are actively ludicrous. For instance, the idea that a city of millions of people have a bat punching a clown to fight for their "soul", metaphorical I know but it's just stupid. Not to mention the idea that the final nail in breaking the people would be finding out Harvey Dent did some bad shit. The people would break from finding out a politician wasn't a great person.....sure. Even worse is the suggestion that we should hide and ignore the failings of politicians for the good of the people, like seriously was this a lost script written by Richard Nixon??
Better than Nolan?? NO. Not even close. Nolan's movies are near goddamn perfection in every way possible; storytelling, direction and performances!! Everything was carefully thought out by Nolan and the writers. Great story-telling and direction came first, awe and spectacle came second. With Reeves, I felt that the process was reversed. Reeves felt like he struggled exponentially to justify some of his plot decisions. (Like the Riddler's sniper attack on Gotham Square Garden, which felt very out of place for someone who was originally targeting only the super-rich and corrupt.) This movie WISHES it was a Nolan Batman film!!
I just finished watching the movie ngl I have to admit I didn’t think it was going to be interesting but this movie actually depicts who Batman is but out of nostalgia bias I have to go with the dark knight trilogy though this felt more darker and had me glued to what the riddler had in mind
The Batman is a great movie but the batman begins is the most character driven superhero movie I have ever seen. Literally half of the movie was dedicated to Bruce's character transformation into Batman without any subplots and most importantly the orgin of his 'no kill rule'. The Batman maybe the 3rd best batman movie after TDR and Bataman Begins.
yeah but The Batman spends way more time. Its a 3 hour long shot entirely from bruce's perspective. There's not a single scene where Bruce/Batman isn't in it( joker-riddler scene being the only exception).
The Batman is definitely better than Begins. I think Begins falls flat with its less than stellar 3rd act, albeit that's still better than a majority of superhero movies. I'd put The Batman pretty close to TDK
I agree with the use of blurr effect in the movie. Similar effect was used in the movie Army of the Dead, but it was too much and became irritating very very quickly. In this case, it added to the drama and the mystery.
@@naheedmumtaz2304And this just smashed the whole trilogy into pieces just like that, you must be a great tdk fan but come on it's gotta be Entertainment vs Pure cinematic bloodshot . You can designate what a great film The Batman 2022 was.
Fantastic video. The Batman is my favorite film as of now. I saw it 6 times in the theater, and it's basically been on a constant loop at my house since the release on HBO Max. It feels like Matt Reeves crawled inside my head and made the exact Batman film I've always wanted to see. I almost can't believe it's real. The design of the cowl/suit, the cinematography, the story, the detective Batman, the cast, the use of anamorphic lenses, the score, literally EVERYTHING!! Plus, this film got me through one of the darkest times of my life. This film will forever be extremely special to me. It goes without saying that it's my absolute favorite Batman film. And it's not even close. I'd love to shake the hands of all the cast and crew.
For me a big part of it was that Gotham doesn't look like downtown Chicago full glass skyscrapers all the time. It looks like places everyday people live in, signs of life, graffiti, trash, decay, traffic. It feels like a place people live in day-to-day, not commercial property.
I would like to imagine the matchup of Pattinson's more meticulous and collected portrayal of Batman against Heath Ledger's Joker. To me, Joker won in The Dark Knight, so I would like to really fantasize on the more detective side of Batman against a insane yet intelligent Joker, and see them trying to crack each other's plans. If only so, but unfortunately it's only a thought.
Smartest Batman movie to date, hands down. I enjoyed Nolan's The Dark Knight, but this one is on another level narratively and emotionally. And it absolutely kills it in the visual style department.
The trailer made me believe this would be a low budget cashgrab after the failure of other DC projects. And while I do consider the Nolan trilogy to be some of the best movies in the latest decades, I do think this Batman is the best of the series and sets an even newer standard for what a Batman movie should be that was established in Joker. Basically a specific niche of realistic movies and social commentary. This is different than the often clean and stylized superhero movies, mostly flashy fun. I think the message about how alone Batman is, driven by a personal duty to be the vengeance, and that it only gives him suspicion by the police force, while other groups rally together to create their own justice, so perfectly captures our contemporary world.
I'm at the point in this video we're the author says in using Clips tries to show that Christopher Nolan's Batman doesn't show pain the way Patton does. It's not a contest they're both great movies but in the dark night I think the choice to have Bruce Wayne be silent, I think if you're intuitive you feel the pain. Where in the reboot it's almost like this version of Bruce Wayne is just perpetually depressed like a goth person. Also Nolan had to work within a PG-13 rating. I've always believed with these movies that the best ones are already. There are some fantastic PG-13 movies of this genre but when Logan came out everything got bumped up a notch. Directors have a lot more choices in a R-rated movie. I'm a big fan of going back to the 70s and making an R-rated version and then also making a PG-13 version for the masses so the people that run the studio get their money and the people that want a really good film can get theirs. It's not an antiquated idea. Let's be honest you can't make these films without backing. So make a great film and then edit a slightly Dumber version of it to make the money changers happy. Because you can't make these movies on a shoe string budget like back in the 70s. I think the first Iron Man everybody took the pay cut and after that. And the same thing for Batman Begins. But the director for this version of Batman already starts out with a big change purse and a lot of freedom because of the rating. But just because Christian Bale doesn't cry, don't tell me you can't say the pain in that character after learning the love of his life has been murdered. Or when his surrogate father and he split up in the third movie which is probably one of the most powerful parts of that third film because it wasn't that good although it has wonderful moments. I think they're a different ways to show emotion. You know if your character is depressed all the time is that showing emotion or mental illness? Still I like the movie I think it's a really good movie. It's better than anything Ben Affleck was ever in. But don't tear down the gold standard to build this one up. I hope there's more to come I really do:-)
You’re absolutely fucking right, I totally forgot how I felt in theaters after Rachel dies and it was a complete shock and then the following scene with Alfred and Bruce steal his Batman suit and not feeling the emotional reverence from Bruce Wayne losing his childhood friend
I love Nolan's films, but I kinda think this one did right a lot of the same things Rises tried and failed to do, in my opinion. It showed a fight for the city, depicted a corrupt police force, and tackled why the Batman is The Batman, without resorting to cheaper elements like twist villains and rushed romantic betrayals. It took Batman to a low point, a grounded and deeply personal low point to do with his motivations and self-image rather than dropping him into a metaphorical manifestation of the well he fell into as a child with a broken back. It showed the grizzly nature of corruption and how it affects the citizens like Annika and Selena, rather than a court of cartoon villains being ridiculously evil and sob stories from seemingly well off characters like Ann Hathaway and Joseph-Gordon Levitt. In Rises, the corruption of Gotham was a fable that villains used to gaslight citizens into feeling sorry for themselves and blaming the system for how miserable they were before they pulled themselves together and made something of themselves. You never saw it, you only heard characters complain about how it affected them a long time ago in their distant pasts. The stakes for Bane vs. Batman over Gotham's corruption were imaginary. In The Batman, you see the corruption, you see street violence, you see drop heads, you see corpses, you see smear campaigns, you see cover ups, you hear horror stories that would make Joseph-Gordon's orphanage character go quiet. You see it all, and you feel the affect it has on the two lead protagonists. No epic slug fest with a physical superior, but instead an introspective challenge that just makes the character AND setting feel more authentic than ever before depicted. No hard feelings Rises fans, the themes are there in trademark Nolan broad strokes. I just prefer to see rather than hear, or I don't get invested.
@@sashimisushii637 Yeah I'm sorry but at some point it started to feel like cops had more screen time then the actual freaking superheroes in that movie. Like I get worldbuilding but come on, I don't think I need to see Sleepy Joe the GCPD officer for the 8th time.
@@sashimisushii637 Also the corruption plot point felt very shoehorned in like they needed to come up with an idea to show the city was still not good so they just came up with the most generic Mr. "I'm bad" characters they could find with little to no redeeming qualities
I love the observations here, there are something i felt in the theater, only observed (like the depth of focus & POV approach) but didn't realized its effect on the film viewing experience.
Honestly the batman feels like its not trying to be a spectacle at all. Dont get me wrong, it is one, but the nolan films come across like they want to be a spectacle, and they are too. So one film gets you invested deeply into the character (even though they barely explored bruce in the batman) and the nolan trilogy does the same thing to a lesser extent, doing a better job at being captivating
Yes! 100%. I’ve always thought the Nolan movies feel very impersonal, like Batman is just a part of the story, almost like how a narrator would just recount to you what happened. With The Batman it feels like you’re there. You’re following the characters themselves, not just the important events.
@@ilyassebenana3824 I don't think it's necessarily better than Nolan's trilogy (particularly The Dark Knight), but there are flaws there that nobody ever points out.
@@errwhattheflip it is better than nolan's trilogy lmfao. the batman is a BATMAN/BRUCE MOVIE. the nolan trilogy is a generic nolan action movie where the protagonist could be switched with any other character and the story wouldn't change. batman/bruce is insignificant in that trilogy.
@@wholethedogsout880 I don't agree with that. The trilogy is centered on the dichotomy between the human Bruce Wayne and the symbolic ideal Batman. Begins is the start of the ideal, TDK is how that ideal is torn apart, and Rises is how the human is able to rise past the symbol and become his own man. While it definitely focuses on Batman less than this new installment does, it's still great at being faithful to the character
This movie actually surprised me. Here I was expecting some disappointing schlocky movie because it had the dude from Twilight as Bruce/Bats and it turned out to be well thought out, well written, well produced and well acted. It IS a good Batman movie.
I totally disagree. Nolan batman movies were way better. When pattinsons batman did the inflatable suit and rolled out the window, it reminded me of spring break kids fighting in sumo outfits (no iconic wings like burton, nolan, comics) This batman was boring. It will never live up to nolan films, or nolan characters like heath ledger joker, batman bale, and bane tom hardy.
If there's a fatal flaw to Nolan's trilogy, it's that neither The Dark Knight nor The Dark Knight Rises show a Gotham that looks like it needs a Batman. It's really interesting to see these kinds of things lensed through a "real world" filter but, ironically, the closer Batman content gets to realism, the more you have to suspend your disbelief. I think that's one of the fundamental reasons I keep seeing people refer to The Dark Knight as the best *movie* of the trilogy, but concede that Batman Begins is the best *Batman* movie of the trilogy.
one thing I personally love about The Batman is the shot composition and colors because they managed to invoke the feeling of comic book panels, especially the batcat kiss and the flare scene, it's something you can easily imagine as taken from a spread or a full page panel in a Batman comic book and it makes it feel so much closer to what we think about when we hear "Batman" the limited colors, with mostly black in sharp contrast to one brighter color?(orange sunset, red flare, red and blue police lights) that's a classic look for moody Batman drawing and it translates beautifly into the movie visually it's something no other superhero movie did so well, it felt like moving comic book panels in the best way
I just felt the script had alot to be desired. Yes cinematography wad absolutely stunning along with the acting. But I personally felt the music was to monotone with nirvana being played 3 different points and Ave Maria also 2 times. With the score being only 3 note motif that only was improved upon I'm the car chase scene. Yet I just can't say it's better than dark knight a movie you can watch over and over again. While batman is a sit down take your time movie that will get boring on repetitive watchings
It was played twice, and Ave Maria was played once. Every other time it was played it was distorted as Riddler's theme music. The simplicity of the score fits the character, and still changes with an increase in style and intensity. I thought it was fine.
Was not expecting Riddler to be a fan. Riddler finding out Batman isn’t on his side and his reaction to it was great. He freaked the fuck out. As the saying goes, don’t meet your hero’s lol
7:35 Can't expect Nolan's Bruce to still be broody and emotional. He was emotional, wanting justice kind of guy before leaving Gotham, before joining the league of shadows. One can't just go through a penance like training and still be disturbed by emotions. And League of Shadows exactly teaches that "Just do it" version.
The Batman is a better Batman movie than any other Batman film I’ve seen…..the the dark knight is a better film altogether but The Batman is the best Batman film I’ve ever watched there’s so much production value, the score, the themes, the visual storytelling, cinematography, dark humor, detective Batman, and he’s addicted the being Batman and is hardly Bruce Wayne……I got a huge Se7en vibe
The one criticism I have of the movie is, you don't know why he decided to be batman. We know the trope, parents dead become Batman. But like why does he decide to beat up criminals, it's not about a legacy of saving the city because he doesn't care about his family name or legacy. Also if he isn't calling himself Batman and he calls himself vengeance, why the bat motifs, the ears, the base jumping suit etc. It's like the film just assumes that the audience has the backstory, which most do. But a film that stands on its own won't shy away from important storytelling even if it's been done before, do your spin on it. Make it your own
When the opening and ending of the movie are literally delivered with the inner monologues of the main character, it really does give you some sense on how personal this take will be
Robert Patterson is obviously a younger more "renegade" Batman he rolls around on a motorbike dressed like a Gen-X slacker where Nolan's Batman was more mature and established
Makes it feel more like a comic book
@@Johnnysmithy24 Exactly. Comics have a lot of inner narration and this was a great way to show that. It felt like Batman: Year One in this regard where Bruce keeps a journal on his exploits.
Some of the best use of narration in a movie (imo)
@@marcusmcneal7453 I personally didn't like how grounded this version was, I understand that was the intention, but I was frankly disappointed by how weak batman was perceived.
“Corporate color palette” is the most apt descriptor of that visual style I’ve ever seen
I can understand wanting a more expressive color palette but you must remember the context in which Nolan’s trilogy was made. It was a conscious choice to make dark knight less stylistic even in comparison to Batman begins. This is kind of what people wanted from that trilogy at the time as we were coming off of Schumachers highly stylized but otherwise empty films. Art is always contextual. The Batman being more stylized makes sense to 2024 but it also puts that above actual subtext
I am a big fan of the Nolan films. This one was also great. It was a really cool take on Batman. Robert Pattinson did an excellent job. You can really see the pain in his eyes throughout the film. Great job with your analysis as usual
It’s why I don’t think they’re comparable movies either. They’re completely different takes on the character.
It was a more real and crude story of a real vigilante with grieve and sorrow with thirst for vengeance.
I absolutely loved this movie. Not to say that the Dark Knight was not good BUT Pattinson killed this part. he was superb. he made you believe that he was a withdrawn brooding individual tat was torn up inside. I absolutely loved tha way he looked at people in the move either cops or whomever that asked him ridiculous questions - and all he had to do was make a little turn of his head or a stare with those great looking eyes in the cowl and that is all you would need to know that you do not want to mess with this guy. And remember words are not needed by the batman- just actions and silence and his facial or body movements. he made yo believe that he should not be toyed with. Just watch him specifically in any one of these scenes and he blows you away. I hope he realizes how wonderfully he played the role of this truly brooding and torn superhero. It was spectacular. Even at the end when he is riding away in his motorcycle- when he is looking into the mirror ar Seline driving away then turns his eyes ever so slightly to the front and glares ahead- with ferocity--- that is all it takes- he is truly the best Batman I have ever seen. Kudos to his acting chops- truly a masterpiece.
I feel that the batman took alot of inspiration from Nolan movies. But was a great movie, it was just too slow and at times too predictable. We never were discovering with batman, there wasn't any plot twists, we knew the villians and even his father story line didnt work. and the ending just could have been done much better. I wish batman caught the riddler.
@@montemag he has become under the radar one of the most accomplished actors and can see him morph into every role he plays
A few great choices by Matt Reeves in no particular order.
1) The subtle but noticeable reaction both times as Bruce/ Batman encounters the mayor's son. A. wealthy young man with horrific first-hand knowledge of the death of a parent.
2) showing us the visceral fear and hesitation Batman encounters before jumping off the roof of police headquarters. A pretty understandable reaction.
3) taking us to the conclusion of that jump. Batman was right to be afraid, he gets hurt. Not too badly but enough that we see he is in serious pain.
4) stalling the Batmobile. Hey, stuff happens to Batman too.
5) the look on Batman's face as the catastrophic highway accident begins to unfold. You can see this chase isn't going the way he had envisioned.
6) taking Alfred's hand in the hospital. It's very subtle but several people have extended their hand to Batman throughout the movie. Alfred is the first one he's actually taken. Alfred isn't Bruce's father but now Bruce has had Alfred far longer than he had Thomas in his life. He was wrong to distance himself from Alfred and knows it now. In a way he has been fighting crime with the help of his dad. Just not his biological one.
7) the well-educated Batman doesn't speak Spanish and his wealthy upbringing doesn't allow him to recognize a common flooring tool.
8) his realizations that you can't punch crime away, he needs to be a symbol of both fear to the evil and hope to the good and that he is at least partially responsible for the Riddler. Batman's expression upon hearing henchmen also called himself "vengeance" was very well done.
erm actually to disagree with your number 7, when Alfred tells him the message means El Rata Alada, Bruce actually understands him and translates it into a rat with wings which means he atleast actually has a basic understanding of the language. 🤓
@@adrianisdahbomb1175 Because people, and especially police/detectives, always make the right decision and are incapable of stupid mistakes. Therefore, the Batman is bad writing.
its awful lol.
@@rajimus “it’s awful” is not valid criticism. If you’re going to criticize something, have a valid and in depth explanation that doesn’t revolve around “I dont like it and I unironically suck cock”
I don’t know why everyone says he stalls the Batmobile. He clearly WANTED the penguin to race him. He also wanted to give catwoman time to get away. He merely revs it because the background comic included for this film showed that he got good a driving and fixing up cars from street racing. He’s still young and angry and boisterous so he wants to really hunt down the penguin.
Let's also remember, that you need a solid actor to create the "intimacy" and "emotionally engaging" you speak of and Robert Pattinson did that. Props to Battinson!
My favourite Batman
@@benallen9796 Same, Nolan's version even seems a bit silly when comparing.
@@takemeseriouslyplx2124 The villains in the Nolan movies are cooler than Batman.
there was nothing believable about patisons batman. that parody badman did batman better than this trash
@@nomercyinc6783 Stating your reasons instead of simply hating
I love the Nolan trilogy but I liked The Batman for its introduction to "Year Two" Batman, which is more faithful to the comics. In addition, Nolan's Batman was never really depicted as "The World's Greatest Detective" as Batman was originally presented as. I loved in the start of the movie that Gordon brought him to the crime scene so he could look around and give his opinion on what had occurred. Christian Bale's Batman also had a guy who had all his military-grade tech ready made for him, pretty much; all he had to do was paint it black and make a few minor modifications. The Batman's Bruce Wayne makes a midair miscalculation with his Bat-flight suit and crashes into the sidewalk-just like you'd expect Year Two Batman to do. He's still raw, angry, and trying to figure out how he's going to go about fighting crime. But, that's just my POV.
I was thinking at first Pattinson was like too gloomy and emo to be a bruce wayne and a batman
Then I realized he was mourning and angry. And people, even with money, don't just be an efficient elite vigilante in a short span of time.
I don't think people would even like a vigilante in real life, due to the blurred line between violence and justice.
Bale's tech guy you mention is Lucius Fox, he's from the comics too. He'll probably appear later on in the second or third film.
yeah battinson is depictected as the world's greatest detective and couldn't even consider that a rat with wings could be a bat (i mean the dude is literally dressed like a bat) and he figured it out cause penguin told him that it sounds like a bat, are you serious, i mean come on seriosusly, penguin is like the most boderline r e t a r d e d character in the movie, and batman "the world's greatest detective" couldn't figure out a riddle that even a penguin figured out ???
it was an ok film but it was a shit detective movie
@@jaiom4229 That's such a lie. It's not the greatest detective movie ever made but also it's not trying to be. The movie is called THE BATMAN after all...oh wait my bad...I thought you were expecting Se7en 2...🤦
My favorite moment of any Batman character on the small or big screen is when he is trying to escape and you see the initial fear when he looks off the side of the building. This 3-4 second gem humanizes Batman in a way no one else has. It draws the viewer in because we can relate to that fear he felt and we share that same feeling with him. He is not simply a machine that takes risks with no emotion, he is a man that has to face his fear to accomplish a goal. It is a tremendous part of the character's growth and you see later in the movie that he does not hesitate when face with a similar situation. Not to mention, his motivations in those different moments. He hesitates when the only motivation is his own self-preservation. At the end, he jumps confidently because the focus is saving others. Really nice detail and depth this version brought to the character.
He is a young, relatively inexperienced Batman. With experience he won’t be afraid to jump off rooftops or glide
I've heard a lot that Nolan films tend to be emotionally distant and cold. Even though I vaguely agreed with that criticism, I never found it totally convincing. Your points about Nolan's shot selection, framing and color correction resonated a lot with me. His Dark Knight trilogy really have a pristine sheen to it which looks great in IMAX but maybe takes away from the movie's character. Batman Begins is probably the only one that actually tries to create a gothic atmosphere and leans into it's imperfections. It also happens to be the only movie where Bruce Wayne feels like the main character. The Dark Knight is a master class in narrative momentum but it leaves a lot to be desired in terms of meaningful character moments for Batman. They are still fantastic movies but I think I'm starting to realize that my taste in movies began to change with age.
It always bothered me how different gotham looked like in the sequels, it went from looking like a cool dystopian city to just New York with a different name
@@bensadfleck9972 I think it is a metaphor about batman's effect on gotham on batman begins gotham looks dirty and Gothic because at that time it was corrupt and it needed batman and in tdk batman has made it a better city so it looks better than it did in tdkr and after the dent act gotham looks like a great city in tdkr since there was no organised crime for years
People claim Kubrick is distant and cold too but perhaps ironic detachment adds to the dark humor?
Matt Reeves should not even be mentioned in the same sentence as the likes of Christopher Nolan and Stanley Kubrick. Such directors are in a completely different league of filmmaking. Matt Reeves is a decent competent director, but that's about it.
I absolute love the Dark Knight even tho I do think it is quite overrated mainly due to the people saying that it is the best movie ever made. It's definitely one of the best superhero films for sure. I never saw TDK as a Batman film tbh. It has always been about Harvey Dent and Joker. I also think they made the right decision to not develop the Joker at all and instead made into this force of nature. I thought Harvey Dent's fall to Two Face was done in a way that is kinda okay even though there are things I like to question about him. But I completely dislike the ending to the film, it felt unsatisfying seeing Two Face just die so quickly and easily and Batman's sacrifice could've been very easily avoided. I saw the movie not long ago and I would probably give it another watch but for now, I think I prefer the Batman due to its focus on Batman and just how the movie makes you FEEL. "It really makes you FEEL like Batman" LMAO
Everyone that said this movie sucked because Bruce wasn’t just another James Bond doesn’t actually appreciate Batman as a character. He’s still so new to the Batman and is struggling to become something more than a boogeyman in the night. Best Batman movie ever IMO
there was no Bruce Wayne or no duality there which is essential to the character. The movie is poor man's Seven
@@jakubowczarek1519everything about Pattinson Batman screams “a work in progress.” The suit, the gadgets, the squirrel suit built into the suit, even the car are prototypes of sort. The same thing is happening with his psyche. He’s mentally been Batman for so long he doesn’t remember how to be Bruce Wayne. I’m sure in the next movie you will see a lot of upgrades
@@jakubowczarek1519shitty poo poo garbage take
I love how these films can coexist and one isn't all out better than the other. For example, in Batman Begins the dock scene where Batman first appears plays out like an Alien or Predator horror movie. Something moving fast in the shadows and picking people off one by one. But in The Batman you can HEAR him slowly approaching you. An unstoppable force that is coming for you and there's nothing you can do about it, like Michael Myers or Jason Voorhees. Both films adopt horror movie tropes and that's amazing to me.
I’m a huge Batman movie fan, and have watched the Burton series when I was a child, and grew up into an adult with Nolan. I love them all to this day. But this Batman was the only one that made me care about the character. I realized how much the former films relied on the villains and not Bruce. This Bruce was so sad and emotionally stunted, and the movie captures it masterfully.
the batman begins is literally about bruce transforming into batman lol
Because your hero is only as good as his villain. Villains make the stories better because the conflict is better
Christian bale's batmat pouted lips.
Helen Im-Same. I loved The Dark Knight trilogy, though the 2 Tim Burton Batman movies were always my favourite Batman movies as I also grew up with those movies, & you're right, most of the movies usually put a lot of focus on the villains. Watching Robert Pattinson's portrayal of Batman/Bruce Wayne, is the first time since seeing Michael Keaton as Batman, that I've felt like i really connected with the character emotionally during a live action Batman movie.
The riddler was terrible
The close up shot and depth of field actually complements the talent of the actors and it is why we keep finding little details specially with Robert's eyes throughout the movie. How he seemed shocked and betrayed when he was being confronted from Gordon in GCPD after the bomb, the moment he said "You too?" his eyes and face just expressed that he felt betrayal. Also when he was riding the bike in the end and look through the mirror seeing Selina riding away from him, we see him daydream for a second, the life he could have before he blinked again and looked forward, more focused!
I love that scene. He expresses so much with no words.
Ikr??? Those two words! "You too?" The way he looked so disappointed. Bruhh I almost cried.
Another great moment without talking: When they found Catwoman friend in that corrupt cop car. How he was looking at Selina and then how shocked his eyes were when he realized Selina's friend corpse was RIGHT THERE. He looked like he was blaming himself for not being able to save her.
@@SpyTrader1988 so you liked and hated the movie for the same reason basically
Dude, well said!
You nailed the reasons why this film has had such a huge effect on me. It’s a weird thing but the more I see the film, the more I love it. That’s a rare phenomenon in this age of CBM’s.
What're CBM's?
@@mimah1015 Comic book movies?
@@potatosmasher1072 Oh okay. Thanks.
@@mimah1015 I added the question mark because I wasn’t sure, but you’re welcome lol
Agree 100%
Nolan's Trilogy- Audience witnesses the story
Reeves The Batman - Audience Experience the story
When you watch it again you notice lots of things that make it such a masterpiece. Such as when the Penguin was bound in the alley and on the long shot as they drive off you see him waddle like an actual Penguin because of the restraints. Also the way Riddler seemingly knew Batman's identity and how he actually didn't was brilliant writing, in that you saw Batman in a corner, thinking the game was up and got to experience it with him with all the closeups. Then there's the awesome soundtrack throughout, the sound design, colour grading, cinamatic shots.... it all comes together gorgeously. My favourite scene is when the camera is upside down with Batman walking slowly from the flames towards Penguin in the car.
The Batman misses the point the Riddler. The riddler is just a show off know it all with a superiority complex. The Riddler doesn’t care about “vengeance”.
Matt Reeves should have done Two-face if he wanted to explore a bad version of Batman’s “vengeance” being out of control.
The movie should have been about Sal Marioni disfiguring Dent after Dent almost exposes the Gotham Renewal act. And Dent goes on his rampage as Two-Face against every single person involved.
This movie is my favorite beginning of a Batman franchise and easily my favorite Batman interpretation.This movie showcases how one deals with darkness in their lives which is shown through the three orphans of the Movie who grew up in darkness:Catwoman,Batman and Riddler and seek to exact vengeance in their own way.Unlike Bruce the other 2 lived differently and Bruce sees how different their lives were as opposed to him.Catwoman lived in darkness for so long that she was trying to get back at the one who was the source of it.Batman feels dull because in this movie unlike all the previous iterations,he actually is learning how to be a hero and symbol at a solid pace.If this was the seasoned comic version of Batman nothing in this movie wouldn’t be suspenseful at all.The biggest problem when adapting Batman is because he easily seems too capable in every situation he is in.This is why in all his movies he usually is a backseat player or reactive way too late.Pattinson in tandem with the cinematography tells so much with his facial expressions and movements,especially how it subtly tells his origin in the shots when Bruce looks at the kid.This Incredible sense of detail and distinct style not only give Gotham a distinct atmosphere but makes it feel like a character drenched in darkness as well.Imo this movie used its 3 hours perfectly, with a huge mystery story like this you need a lot of Time fleshing out the detective angle and unraveling a mystery.This movie was never trying to be a absolute continuation of the comic version of Batman,it’s an interpretation while following a noire story.This movie follows the ongoing narrative about Batman excellently. It’s about Moving past ones darkness into the light and Batman rediscovering his humanity and the good of the common man through mostly Gordon,and people who want to make a difference.Which leads to someone who is the antithesis,Riddler who lost his humanity and tries to plummet gotham into everlasting darkness.This gives batman/Bruce a palatable character arc which is something previous Batman movies failed to do.This arc makes Bruce feel real rather than writers defaulting to writing superficial ideas of darkness and glorification of violence.
Having had some time to think about it, I'm pretty confident in saying Pattinson is my favorite Batman thus far. In fact, I'd say it's my favorite Batman film altogether. The Nolan films were great in their own right, fun action movies that made the caped crusader superhero fantasy accessible to anyone. But there's a certain artistry and reverence for the source material here that just feels more authentic, less compromising. It doesn't feel like I even need to see a prequel series of a sequel film. It just stands on its own as a visually engrossing and thoughtful take on Batman.
I had really low expectations for this going in, especially when the lady at the counter warned us it was a 3 hour movie, but as soon as it started I felt a huge wave of relief. The way they humanized Bruce and took Batman back to his "world's greatest detective" roots made this movie feel so refreshing. And I can't lie, I actually want to go back to the theatres and see all 3 hours of it again.
This video did an incredible job of breaking down the many technical and artistic reasons I haven't been able to stop thinking about this movie. Great work.
Why would the runtime of the movie lower your expectations?
@@DrMcMoist doesn't necessarily mean the movie will be bad but going into the theater for a 3 hour movie can be pretty daunting. I guess I was just worried it was going to be a slog (we were originally planning on seeing Sonic that night) but it turned out to be one of my favorite superhero movies ever.
@@kenny42069 Just out of interest, did you watch the new Planet of the Apes trilogy?
@@DrMcMoist I did not, is it any good?
@@kenny42069 Yeah it really is. I mean the first film is decent but Matt Reeves took over to direct the two sequels and they are really good.
I went into The Batman fully expecting it to be a good movie because of them. I'd recommend you check them out.
I both liked and hated that this movie was so claustrophobic with its very close-angle shots. You’re like in the characters’ faces all the time, including in the car chase. *Hated* because it had me tense and anxious the whole movie, but *liked* because it had me invested and completely attentive - hooked. That was brilliant
me too got me so hooked, but i like the darker tone of the film more like Godfather vibes with the mafias as main antagonist
@GhastGhost13 Yeah maybe our attention spans is also just not the same anymore lmao
The rain also made the story interesting, it’s like it’s always “bad weather, bad news” in the city. The car chase was god damn gripping
@GhastGhost13 I had the same problem
For a different reason, you really expect me to hold my pee for 3 hours? I had to go at
What I think was probably not an important scene in the movie but it probably is
@GhastGhost13 Probably because IT'S BORING! 🙄 People need to stop listening to the kids calling this movie a 'masterpiece' ... It's barely mediocre.
Probably the most in depth the Batman essay I’ve seen yet, great work
You’re giving Reeves at lot of credit on shot direction and visual style.
Greig Fraser played a huge role in both of those aspects and is a master at creating stunning images that truly act as a plot device and not just hanging his hat on a marquee visual style (I.e. Wes Anderson films).
Felt like Batman was gonna break his no killing rule in this film in some scenes Robert did the dark knight so good felt like every criminal he beat up was the man who killed his parents.
That’s not Batman’s rule it’s no killing with a gun cause he never stopped killing in the comics or on the movies except for Clooney he just won’t use the weapon that was used to take the life of his father originally Martha died from the shock the first retelling of the murder had her being shot Also there is to many to list of times he has killed in the comics
@@kevin10001 It is his rule not killing perioid.
@@shadowspidey7327 exactly. Batman doesn’t kill, people need to stop making dumb excuses for it.
@@majumder456 Right has to follow his own code.
@@majumder456his very first comic he hung someone from the bat plane it wasn't until the 80s that he stopped killing people 😂 hell even Michael Keatons version killed in the first one he didn't stop people from dying 😂 but after him into the 90s they stopped having him kill in the movies and comics
I love Nolan's trilogy and those movies are easier to watch. Fast-paced, epic and with a lot of action but The Batman is more like a comic of Batman than the Nolan trilogy. The Batman IS Batman.
No he isn't. Reeves Batman isn't Batman. Reeves Batman is Alan Moore's Rorschach in a Batman Suit.
@@vittoriacolona Tell me you didn't understand Rorschach without telling me you didn't' understand Rorschach. Or you mean Zack Snyder's interpretation (wrong interpretation) of Rorschach?
Nah I lost interest halfway through. There is no Bruce Wayne in The Batman, he barely exist, so your argument goes out the window. Let's not forget the godawful opening scene that establishes Batman is widely feared in Gotham, so then when he shows up, goons have to ask who he is, so he can say that idiotic line, and we have an artificially stale moment after that Rambo action scene of a climax. Patterson carried that mess of a film real well.
Bunch of wanna be first year film students. Lol
@Moviepilotfan plus rorschach didn't created the opening monologue trope in every single noir film, hell even the sam raimi spiderman did that
Nolan also did a pretty deep take on the Batman/Bruce Wayne in Batman Begins - but he did it differently. As you said, Nolan's character was more stoic, and that was his way to deal with the emotions after the whole yourney through the film. Reeves Batman is more voulnareble, and willing to confront his emotions, to dig out the throuth, instead of hiding it. That is the main difference, and it shows also the change in society - we stopped perceiving emotions as a weakness (overcoming ot using fear, and grief like a tool in Nolan's trilogy). We generally see them as strenght, source of humanity, and wisdom instead. That's why I love both takes on Batman - it shows different perspectives.
Lol bales Batman is also vulnerable but you’re half right
Also hated how they treated Batman in the Nolan films.
Bruce Wayne was the person and Batman was nothing but a mask.
WRONG!
BATMAN is the man, BRUCE WAYNE is the mask
@@spider-man500 In Begins it’s clearly evident that Batman is the real person, while Bruce has become nothing more than a hollow shell.
@@spider-man500 exactly. thats how it should be. I loved nolan triology but this as a part of it that i didnt like.
I honestly can't stop thinking about this movie. Every choice is so entrancing and gives so much dimension to the characters.
This is an absolutely brilliant analysis. Will check out more of your content as I'm slowly getting more into film reviews and watching them for the art
I loved the Nolan series but The Batman put me through so many emotions, what a great piece of cinema. Thank you for the breakdown on this, I love learning more about film making
Great analysis as always! I love this movie so much, really respectful to the Batman universe and characters.
"The Batman" is indeed a breath of fresh air in the super-hero movie landscape. I still like Nolan's trilogy, but Reeves' given me my favorite Batman - second only to TAS.
Nolan's Batman felt nothing like actual "Batman" as everyone remembers and associates him with mystery and darkness, except his Batman is more of smart and tactician strategic man. Reeves' take is my favorite because he kept the mystery and association with "fear" Batman presents to criminals, also he is most accurate to comics.
HOW IN THE FUCK can you hold TAS (the DEFINITIVE Batman) to this steaming pile of SHIT?!?!
@@shoegazzzzzeeee HAHAHAHAHAHA. Reeves Batman IS NOT "aCcUrAtE tO tHe cOmIcS".
@@vikingkirk762 lol he is
@@shoegazzzzzeeee Not even fucking close.
honestly one of the best analysis of the batman ive seen yet, and ive been watching a lot of them. thank you.
The Batman nailed it - it feels exactly the way a detective noir should feel. Awesome episode! -Dustin
“Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.” - Oscar Wilde
The quality and quantity of your video output is unreal. Keep up the great work.
Thanks Jake!
There seems to be a ton of little details sprinkled throughout the movie that pay homage to all the Batmen that came before it. The one thing I can’t unsee now is Adam Wests mask in Pattinsons mask.
I also liked they used an Adam west style batphone as a phone in Wayne manor I noticed it instantly when it came on screen
The Batman was an incredible movie, loved the amazing cinematography, story, Michael Giacchino’s soundtrack was perfect, the opening scene leading to the Batman reveal was absolute perfection. Robert Pattinson and Paul Dano stole the show as Batman and Riddler, excited for the sequel. 👏👏👏👏
I never noticed just how often Reeve's used a shallow depth of field, that definitely made a massive impact. I love The Batman, I just rewatched the Nolan trilogy to fairly compare them and I still think I enjoy Reeve's take more, like you said in Nolan's i'm watching a movie about Batman but in Reeve's i'm experiencing the movie as if I was there myself.
I felt more attached with matt reeves batman then the Nolan's one.
I never thought that DOF can do so much with our brain and physiology to make scenes extremely personal.
And hats off to Pattinson for putting out exact amount of emotions on camera that make batman feel more human form of superhero.
And really thanks for this awesome analysis. 👏
We only watched one movie from Matt Reeves and we connect with Reeves' Bruce more than Nolan's.
Can't wait for the next movie. Hopefully overused Joker isn't in Reeves'trilogy
Facts
What really sticks out to me is that this movie *feels* so different, but is still most certainly a Batman film. The emphasis on Batman using his detective skills, more than his combat was very much appreciated, especially since there *is* fighting, but they don't overcook it. It's like the filmmakers knew that the audience knows that Batman is a badass fighter. So they tried to show a side of Batman that had only been touched on, but not necessarily explored, in previous films.
Oh, absolutely. Best live action Batman in my lifetime. Hands down. His Bruce Wayne looks downright haunted. Yet, at the end, it gave us a glimpse of Batman’s heart. A light in the darkness. So good. They GET Batman in a way I don’t believe Nolan did.
great comment
For me, The Dark Knight is the best, but this is absolutely amazing.
@@brupac5017 it's called having an opinion, get a grip.
@@brupac5017 TDK was never the best Batman movie, people online were citing Begins as being a better Batman story looooong before Reeves' Batman came out, while TDK was basically the Joker's film
@@brupac5017 ok mr gatekeeper
Batman's vulnerability is shown in Batman Begins perfectly when he tried to stalk on the scarecrow and failed.
I read that Matt reeves painstakingly went over every shot and sometimes took up to 200+ takes to get details just right (eg. he made Zoe keep her mouth slightly open in one scene because the difference would convey a different emotion). It was definitely well worth the effort, as you pointed out here - I’m definitely going to rewatch this with all these narrative details in mind
Another thing I realised when watching Nolan’s films was how I seemingly resonated better with the villains and anti-heroes rather than Batman/Bruce Wayne, with the exception of Batman Begins. Whilst I never fully sympathised with Joker, Bane or Harvey Dent (to an extent), I would be lying if I didn’t say that some of their actions were justified. I could never fully relate or sympathise with Bruce Wayne as well as I could with the villains.
Pattinson engrossed me. His 2 monologues were moving and powerful, the cinematography does a great job at highlighting an intense gothic atmosphere with lots of emotion and most importantly the actual character of Batman in Reeves’ felt more organic. Nolan’s Batman seemed to have Batman always trying to be ‘better’ than the villain, I never remembered him empathising or understanding the justification of the villains. Pattison’s on the other hand acknowledges the disgust and filth of Gotham. He tells Gordon that the men killed by Riddler deserved it because they were just as bad, if not worse, than the criminals he is fighting. I found this to be much more relatable. He’s able to see Gotham for what it truly is which is why he’s always so angry and brooding (you can see it in his fighting style) compared to Bale’s which I never really felt was conveyed well especially when the cinematography felt so grand and bright.
Well said
You hit the nail on the head.
I found myself connecting more with Pattinson's Batman than with Bale's. And I say this as someone who loves the Nolan films.
Fantastic analysis that really captured the heart of this film masterpiece. Thanks for the great work!
This video is just as well made as the movie, this really wraps up everything good about the movie, it's visuals, it's characters, and it's themes, and smoothly connects them all together.
I think another reason this movie works really well is because it’s set in its own universe. It’s not pressurized to work in a narrative that fits in with those of other movies set in the same universe. That way, the movie has enough room to truly focus on it’s own character’s story and build around its own plot. The same can be said for Nolan’s trilogy and I think this is the best way for DC movies to shine on their own.
The Godfather and The Batman are in my opinion the best movies I’ve seen. Every aspect is so meticulously crafted. True masterpieces.
What an analysis brother, consistency and quality remain constant when it comes to your reviews; thank you for yet another great piece of artistry.
For this movie to be made, the nolan films had to be made. It’s a great breath of fresh air for Batman on the big screen! Both reeves and nolan share the top spot
Because I very much enjoyed all your content and honestly learned a lot from it I trust your opinion. That means: I have to watch that movie now because of your first sentences in your video and watch the video afterwards.
I really enjoy having found your channel! Great work!
Perfect analyzation. It’s why The Batman and TDK are equal for me. A movie finally from Batman’s perspective as the main focus for once and not just a plot device.
you did such a good job with this video keep up the great work !!
Outstanding synopsis. Absolutely spot on.
I never loved the nolan movies as much as other people did. idk for me it was just always missing something about Batman, perhaps it's the ambience. perhaps it's the way christan bale portrays batman, maybe it's the lack of detective work beyond a few scenes. idk growing up watching the animated series, reading the comic and being a huge batman fan my entire life has always made me have certain expectations for my batman movies. Nolan as great of a director as he is, just missed the mark for me. tdk is really good becuase of Heath tbh. he's the person who really sells the movie for me. The Batman however scratched that batman itch I've had for awhile now it just made me feeling like I was watching a comic come to life. It felt like the batman I knew. The person who sold this movie for me was the character I came to see, batman. so congrats Robert Pattinson you're my favorite live action batman.
Yeah IMHO the Nolan movies don’t really encapsulate the character or world of the comics tbh.
I couldn't have put it better myself. This movie really captured the Batman character for me. Really enjoyed it.
Well said sir
Always thought the Nolan movies were overrated asf. You put it a lot nicer than I do lol
I blame Christian Bale's wooden acting to some extent, but the direction and writing aren't great either. Christopher Nolan wants soooooooo badly to be seen as an intellectual filmmaker, and in the process beats the viewer over the head with concepts that either aren't nearly as complex as he thinks they are, or are actively ludicrous. For instance, the idea that a city of millions of people have a bat punching a clown to fight for their "soul", metaphorical I know but it's just stupid. Not to mention the idea that the final nail in breaking the people would be finding out Harvey Dent did some bad shit. The people would break from finding out a politician wasn't a great person.....sure. Even worse is the suggestion that we should hide and ignore the failings of politicians for the good of the people, like seriously was this a lost script written by Richard Nixon??
really like this channel i found
really in depth analysis videos that are great to watch keep it up man i appreciate the work
Better than Nolan?? NO. Not even close.
Nolan's movies are near goddamn perfection in every way possible; storytelling, direction and performances!! Everything was carefully thought out by Nolan and the writers. Great story-telling and direction came first, awe and spectacle came second. With Reeves, I felt that the process was reversed.
Reeves felt like he struggled exponentially to justify some of his plot decisions. (Like the Riddler's sniper attack on Gotham Square Garden, which felt very out of place for someone who was originally targeting only the super-rich and corrupt.)
This movie WISHES it was a Nolan Batman film!!
Nothing can top The Dark Knight
I just finished watching the movie ngl I have to admit I didn’t think it was going to be interesting but this movie actually depicts who Batman is but out of nostalgia bias I have to go with the dark knight trilogy though this felt more darker and had me glued to what the riddler had in mind
The Batman is a great movie but the batman begins is the most character driven superhero movie I have ever seen. Literally half of the movie was dedicated to Bruce's character transformation into Batman without any subplots and most importantly the orgin of his 'no kill rule'.
The Batman maybe the 3rd best batman movie after TDR and Bataman Begins.
yeah but The Batman spends way more time. Its a 3 hour long shot entirely from bruce's perspective. There's not a single scene where Bruce/Batman isn't in it( joker-riddler scene being the only exception).
The Batman is definitely better than Begins. I think Begins falls flat with its less than stellar 3rd act, albeit that's still better than a majority of superhero movies. I'd put The Batman pretty close to TDK
The Batman: mask of the phatasm is the best movie
I agree with the use of blurr effect in the movie. Similar effect was used in the movie Army of the Dead, but it was too much and became irritating very very quickly. In this case, it added to the drama and the mystery.
beautiful take, well spoken, you have more than earned a like from me!
One of the best if not the best video essay I’ve seen about Matt reeves the Batman
I thought nothing would ever top Nolan's trilogy....and then I watched this. Still blown away.
And nothing did
@@naheedmumtaz2304 shut your mouth muhammad
@@naheedmumtaz2304And this just smashed the whole trilogy into pieces just like that, you must be a great tdk fan but come on it's gotta be
Entertainment vs Pure cinematic bloodshot .
You can designate what a great film The Batman 2022 was.
Fantastic video. The Batman is my favorite film as of now. I saw it 6 times in the theater, and it's basically been on a constant loop at my house since the release on HBO Max. It feels like Matt Reeves crawled inside my head and made the exact Batman film I've always wanted to see. I almost can't believe it's real. The design of the cowl/suit, the cinematography, the story, the detective Batman, the cast, the use of anamorphic lenses, the score, literally EVERYTHING!! Plus, this film got me through one of the darkest times of my life. This film will forever be extremely special to me.
It goes without saying that it's my absolute favorite Batman film. And it's not even close. I'd love to shake the hands of all the cast and crew.
I wish everyone who doubts this could watch this video to understand that this is the purest representation of Batman to ever grace the big screen.
People only think about action and look at rob and and see twilight cause there haters
No. Batman should be scary. Batman should not feel like I need to check his ID.
For me a big part of it was that Gotham doesn't look like downtown Chicago full glass skyscrapers all the time.
It looks like places everyday people live in, signs of life, graffiti, trash, decay, traffic. It feels like a place people live in day-to-day, not commercial property.
I liked this Batman because he felt more human imo.
The thing that I love about this film is the last person i'd cast as batman would be Robert Pattinson but he owns this role!
as a shitty batman. yeah he does
The last person? Never thought someone would put Adolf Hitler over Robert Pattinson when it comes to casting Batman.
@@alexvjuz882 i mean hes more menacing lol
@@SteCollects That is a fair point. Hitler was a great public speaker. I imagine he'd perform a decent playboy Bruce Wayne persona.
@@chazzanovatron Fuck no.
He's the most Batman of all Batman's yet.
Go cry in a corner Bale fanboy.
I would like to imagine the matchup of Pattinson's more meticulous and collected portrayal of Batman against Heath Ledger's Joker. To me, Joker won in The Dark Knight, so I would like to really fantasize on the more detective side of Batman against a insane yet intelligent Joker, and see them trying to crack each other's plans. If only so, but unfortunately it's only a thought.
Smartest Batman movie to date, hands down. I enjoyed Nolan's The Dark Knight, but this one is on another level narratively and emotionally. And it absolutely kills it in the visual style department.
Great commentaries!!!!!
The trailer made me believe this would be a low budget cashgrab after the failure of other DC projects. And while I do consider the Nolan trilogy to be some of the best movies in the latest decades, I do think this Batman is the best of the series and sets an even newer standard for what a Batman movie should be that was established in Joker. Basically a specific niche of realistic movies and social commentary. This is different than the often clean and stylized superhero movies, mostly flashy fun. I think the message about how alone Batman is, driven by a personal duty to be the vengeance, and that it only gives him suspicion by the police force, while other groups rally together to create their own justice, so perfectly captures our contemporary world.
I'm at the point in this video we're the author says in using Clips tries to show that Christopher Nolan's Batman doesn't show pain the way Patton does. It's not a contest they're both great movies but in the dark night I think the choice to have Bruce Wayne be silent, I think if you're intuitive you feel the pain. Where in the reboot it's almost like this version of Bruce Wayne is just perpetually depressed like a goth person. Also Nolan had to work within a PG-13 rating. I've always believed with these movies that the best ones are already. There are some fantastic PG-13 movies of this genre but when Logan came out everything got bumped up a notch. Directors have a lot more choices in a R-rated movie. I'm a big fan of going back to the 70s and making an R-rated version and then also making a PG-13 version for the masses so the people that run the studio get their money and the people that want a really good film can get theirs. It's not an antiquated idea. Let's be honest you can't make these films without backing. So make a great film and then edit a slightly Dumber version of it to make the money changers happy. Because you can't make these movies on a shoe string budget like back in the 70s. I think the first Iron Man everybody took the pay cut and after that. And the same thing for Batman Begins. But the director for this version of Batman already starts out with a big change purse and a lot of freedom because of the rating. But just because Christian Bale doesn't cry, don't tell me you can't say the pain in that character after learning the love of his life has been murdered. Or when his surrogate father and he split up in the third movie which is probably one of the most powerful parts of that third film because it wasn't that good although it has wonderful moments. I think they're a different ways to show emotion. You know if your character is depressed all the time is that showing emotion or mental illness? Still I like the movie I think it's a really good movie. It's better than anything Ben Affleck was ever in. But don't tear down the gold standard to build this one up. I hope there's more to come I really do:-)
You’re absolutely fucking right, I totally forgot how I felt in theaters after Rachel dies and it was a complete shock and then the following scene with Alfred and Bruce steal his Batman suit and not feeling the emotional reverence from Bruce Wayne losing his childhood friend
Rewatch the Harvey Dent scene at the end. Specifically after Dent says ’then why was it me who lost everything?’.
Nolan is my favorite filmmaker ever, but I 100% believe that this is the best Batman and Superhero movie ever. It's brilliant.
The beginning 15 minutes really set the tone of the whole film. And I was hooked. I love love this movie with my whole heart.
I love Nolan's films, but I kinda think this one did right a lot of the same things Rises tried and failed to do, in my opinion. It showed a fight for the city, depicted a corrupt police force, and tackled why the Batman is The Batman, without resorting to cheaper elements like twist villains and rushed romantic betrayals. It took Batman to a low point, a grounded and deeply personal low point to do with his motivations and self-image rather than dropping him into a metaphorical manifestation of the well he fell into as a child with a broken back.
It showed the grizzly nature of corruption and how it affects the citizens like Annika and Selena, rather than a court of cartoon villains being ridiculously evil and sob stories from seemingly well off characters like Ann Hathaway and Joseph-Gordon Levitt. In Rises, the corruption of Gotham was a fable that villains used to gaslight citizens into feeling sorry for themselves and blaming the system for how miserable they were before they pulled themselves together and made something of themselves. You never saw it, you only heard characters complain about how it affected them a long time ago in their distant pasts. The stakes for Bane vs. Batman over Gotham's corruption were imaginary. In The Batman, you see the corruption, you see street violence, you see drop heads, you see corpses, you see smear campaigns, you see cover ups, you hear horror stories that would make Joseph-Gordon's orphanage character go quiet. You see it all, and you feel the affect it has on the two lead protagonists. No epic slug fest with a physical superior, but instead an introspective challenge that just makes the character AND setting feel more authentic than ever before depicted.
No hard feelings Rises fans, the themes are there in trademark Nolan broad strokes. I just prefer to see rather than hear, or I don't get invested.
Big fan of rises, but the GCPD in The Batman is a lot better.
@@sashimisushii637 Yeah I'm sorry but at some point it started to feel like cops had more screen time then the actual freaking superheroes in that movie. Like I get worldbuilding but come on, I don't think I need to see Sleepy Joe the GCPD officer for the 8th time.
@@sashimisushii637 Also the corruption plot point felt very shoehorned in like they needed to come up with an idea to show the city was still not good so they just came up with the most generic Mr. "I'm bad" characters they could find with little to no redeeming qualities
@@albertokorogu1258 wait, which batman are you talking abt
The Batman destroys Rises.
Both were great. Both were different, both felt different and that difference makes both legendary.
After watching the movie 3 times, and going through the Nolan trilogy again, I am more invested and interested where the new movie series goes next.
I'd really like it to delve into the slightly less grounded - like a Man Bat?
@@benallen9796 It's funny becaue the film is so grounded and realistic and yet it can seem to include that character and Mr. Freeze for a sequel.
I love the observations here, there are something i felt in the theater, only observed (like the depth of focus & POV approach) but didn't realized its effect on the film viewing experience.
Honestly the batman feels like its not trying to be a spectacle at all. Dont get me wrong, it is one, but the nolan films come across like they want to be a spectacle, and they are too. So one film gets you invested deeply into the character (even though they barely explored bruce in the batman) and the nolan trilogy does the same thing to a lesser extent, doing a better job at being captivating
My personal opinion on this is, the batman in this movie is less batman than a person in halloween costume.
Agreed
The cinematography and style of the movie is great!
Yes! 100%. I’ve always thought the Nolan movies feel very impersonal, like Batman is just a part of the story, almost like how a narrator would just recount to you what happened. With The Batman it feels like you’re there. You’re following the characters themselves, not just the important events.
@@brupac5017 Sometimes you need a better version of something to catch the flaws of the previous one
@@ilyassebenana3824 I don't think it's necessarily better than Nolan's trilogy (particularly The Dark Knight), but there are flaws there that nobody ever points out.
@@errwhattheflip it is better than nolan's trilogy lmfao. the batman is a BATMAN/BRUCE MOVIE. the nolan trilogy is a generic nolan action movie where the protagonist could be switched with any other character and the story wouldn't change. batman/bruce is insignificant in that trilogy.
@@wholethedogsout880 I don't agree with that. The trilogy is centered on the dichotomy between the human Bruce Wayne and the symbolic ideal Batman. Begins is the start of the ideal, TDK is how that ideal is torn apart, and Rises is how the human is able to rise past the symbol and become his own man. While it definitely focuses on Batman less than this new installment does, it's still great at being faithful to the character
This movie actually surprised me.
Here I was expecting some disappointing schlocky movie because it had the dude from Twilight as Bruce/Bats and it turned out to be well thought out, well written, well produced and well acted.
It IS a good Batman movie.
Awesome take
I totally disagree. Nolan batman movies were way better. When pattinsons batman did the inflatable suit and rolled out the window, it reminded me of spring break kids fighting in sumo outfits (no iconic wings like burton, nolan, comics) This batman was boring. It will never live up to nolan films, or nolan characters like heath ledger joker, batman bale, and bane tom hardy.
What is so great is that in Reeve's The Batman, the camera takes it time. As opposed to Nolan's frantic camera work.
I hate how the action scenes were choreographed and shot in Nolan’s trilogy.
If there's a fatal flaw to Nolan's trilogy, it's that neither The Dark Knight nor The Dark Knight Rises show a Gotham that looks like it needs a Batman. It's really interesting to see these kinds of things lensed through a "real world" filter but, ironically, the closer Batman content gets to realism, the more you have to suspend your disbelief. I think that's one of the fundamental reasons I keep seeing people refer to The Dark Knight as the best *movie* of the trilogy, but concede that Batman Begins is the best *Batman* movie of the trilogy.
Nolan focused more on the psychological demistified bs and that's why I don't think he's as good a filmmaker as people claim him to be.
An insightful review, thank you for posting. This is by far my favourite Batman film to date.
one thing I personally love about The Batman is the shot composition and colors because they managed to invoke the feeling of comic book panels, especially the batcat kiss and the flare scene, it's something you can easily imagine as taken from a spread or a full page panel in a Batman comic book and it makes it feel so much closer to what we think about when we hear "Batman"
the limited colors, with mostly black in sharp contrast to one brighter color?(orange sunset, red flare, red and blue police lights) that's a classic look for moody Batman drawing and it translates beautifly into the movie visually
it's something no other superhero movie did so well, it felt like moving comic book panels in the best way
I like how this filmed ended with how Batman films should end, Batman being feared by criminals and believed in by the people of Gotham
This film is simply The Batman we fans deserve. Awesome video essay. Please do one about The Batman's gadgets, tech, weaponry, etc. Aloha!
I just felt the script had alot to be desired. Yes cinematography wad absolutely stunning along with the acting. But I personally felt the music was to monotone with nirvana being played 3 different points and Ave Maria also 2 times. With the score being only 3 note motif that only was improved upon I'm the car chase scene. Yet I just can't say it's better than dark knight a movie you can watch over and over again. While batman is a sit down take your time movie that will get boring on repetitive watchings
It was played twice, and Ave Maria was played once. Every other time it was played it was distorted as Riddler's theme music.
The simplicity of the score fits the character, and still changes with an increase in style and intensity. I thought it was fine.
What a great analysis you have made of this awesome movie.
I'm REALLY liking this channel
I love how I only realized that Batman was manipulated by Riddler when he himself realized it in the end.
Was not expecting Riddler to be a fan. Riddler finding out Batman isn’t on his side and his reaction to it was great. He freaked the fuck out. As the saying goes, don’t meet your hero’s lol
@@treytilley333 Plus, his narcissistic personality, paul dano did a great job
7:35 Can't expect Nolan's Bruce to still be broody and emotional. He was emotional, wanting justice kind of guy before leaving Gotham, before joining the league of shadows. One can't just go through a penance like training and still be disturbed by emotions. And League of Shadows exactly teaches that "Just do it" version.
The Batman is a better Batman movie than any other Batman film I’ve seen…..the the dark knight is a better film altogether but The Batman is the best Batman film I’ve ever watched there’s so much production value, the score, the themes, the visual storytelling, cinematography, dark humor, detective Batman, and he’s addicted the being Batman and is hardly Bruce Wayne……I got a huge Se7en vibe
pattinson is the best batman...& reeves' stellar direction certainly humanizes the protagonist...anticipating reeves' perspective on the joker
The one criticism I have of the movie is, you don't know why he decided to be batman. We know the trope, parents dead become Batman. But like why does he decide to beat up criminals, it's not about a legacy of saving the city because he doesn't care about his family name or legacy.
Also if he isn't calling himself Batman and he calls himself vengeance, why the bat motifs, the ears, the base jumping suit etc.
It's like the film just assumes that the audience has the backstory, which most do. But a film that stands on its own won't shy away from important storytelling even if it's been done before, do your spin on it. Make it your own
Isn’t it spelled out for you? Vengeance against criminals