@@Daniel50190 What personality? The dude was just a regular ass player who beat the shit out of high tier players with a non-meta character. Cope harder.
@@Daniel50190 You'd know a thing or two about living in a cave, I've watched HungryBox over the years and he's the one who gets hated on for no reason just because he plays an unpopular character. Your whole point of view is completely opposite from reality, please change and be a better person. When HungryBox popped off from finally getting his win after years of training with Puff, he had every right to.
Why the fuck did someone have a crab in their pocket in the first place. "Man, I'm kinda pissed off that this guy won. Oh wait, I forgot about the crab in my pocket, I'll just throw it at him."
Hoo-Hah has become such a legendary clip in my eyes. The way he delivers the hoo-hah and then the “there it is” is just perfect. So good that hbox made it his follow sound on twitch
@@mirdagarcia6952 its generally frowned upon for spectators to yell at a player. Even more annoying when they're doing it everytime your getting bested. The "Hoo-hah" could've been "Bop-Bop". The dude shouting is being a piece of shit. It would bother any player.
Which most are trolls who get a dose of reality when they decide they can say and do the shit they do behind a keyboard and think nothing is gonna happen/is all just a joke.
See, it's funny because most of the folks I see wanting Nintendo to officially support Smash as an esport are Melee players Yeah dudes, I'm sure Nintendo wants to put money into this game that's almost two decades old and from one of their failed consoles. Definitely.
It's good to see the crowd cheering for Hbox when he stood up for himself Edit: on the clip with CaptainZack and Raito, Raito acted like he lost the grand finals, also he picked A LOW TIER CHARACTER
I actually feel sorry for HBox, considering that he gets boo'd very frequently and the fact that he got a crab thrown to him, which could have ended horribly. However, looking at his reactions when the crowd gets mad at him, I must give him respect and props as well for being rather quite collected while facing hate from one of the biggest fighting game communities that exists as of currently.
Hungrybox is a fucking crybaby. You can choose to wear headphones/earphones so the crowd doesn't distract you. Instead he doesn't and gets a negative response and spits the dummy. Meanwhile people are chanting "Leffen sucks" and Leffen is most likely laughing about it
@@jazzabighits4473 yea because leffen hasn't gotten tilted by the masses before? Of course he has. Also, You must be an idiot if you think headphones are going to prevent things from getting thrown at you. hungrybox may be a crybaby in your book, but at least he ain't a fucken dipshit like you.
Jazza BigHits Hungrybox literally had to deal with people chanting “fuck hbox” after every melee game. And I’d imagine it would be super distracting to hear mid game “HOO HAH” from right behind him, if that shit is so loud then I doubt headphones would do shit.
*At seafood restaurant* Guy: “Bro, I’m full” Friend: “You still have a crab left. You gonna throw it out?” Guy: “Nah, I know exactly what to do with this”
@@Magmiteh You don't even know me, so don't go making assumptions. I never had a problem with HBox until the crab thing happened. The guy who threw the crab is an asshole, but HBox yells out for who threw it like he's a king or some shit: "Who threw that? BRING THEM BEFORE ME!" He's really full of himself and he has the gall to think that sitting in a chair and playing a video game is hard work. That's why I don't like him.
@@a1k0rn17 Leffen literally also gets hated to hell by the community from time to time yet you decide to use him as a source against HBox, when both are actually pretty decent people. You have to be kidding me. I hate people that are like "there is a story of a story of story where a well-known online personality did something bad" while using proof of that that literally comes from people of similar conditions. Silence, dude.
He deserves it. I think Hbox can be boring as hell and I wouldn't consider myself an Hbox fan at all but it's undeniable Hbox is amazing at the game and deserves to be respected. I don't approve at all of people verbally abusing and throwing things at him just because he's good at Melee.
Mental health issues is so much worse than Physical. If someone punches me..whatever it will heal in a week or two but if someone gets into my head that shit can last months if not years. Ive seen it destroy a good number of friends since they don't know to let certain things go and get over it :( What the community did to Hbox was screwed up simply because he played defensive/counterattacker (which is how you beat fox)
The Crusader you can’t exactly adapt to puff in melee, her mobility in the air is greater than every other character, and up throw to rest shuts down approaching. Not saying hbox deserves to get insulted and for his mental health to get jabbed at but, melee puff is infuriating.
The guys got an ego where he thinks he's unbeatable and the best smash melee player. Most of his tactics is hit and run. And any player better than him, he'll run out the clock and camp all match. He won majority of his tournaments that way. It shows that he's only in it for the prize money and that goes against everything Sakurai stands for when creating the series. He says he "respects" the game but disowned ultimate, saying Nintendo should support the melee scene awhile ignoring WHY Nintendo doesn't cause of the shitty community. Just cause you use one of the most broken characters in the game to camp and win your tournaments for the prize money awhile calling your self "The face of melee smash" doesn't exactly win respect.
Reoko you don’t understand, is is COMPETITIVE, you use any tactic you have to win even if that means camping. Getting mad at a man for wanting to win in his own way is childish. Like it or not hbox earned his wins.
Being a massive Hbox fan, it really hurts to see the shitty things people do just because he's good. That clip where he's yelling at the guy in the crowd for throwing the crab is why I have so much respect for him. He could have said so much more but he didn't. Hbox deserves better.
Agree with this. He went through so much hate just because he played Puff. I always found him playing Puff much more interesting than watching Fox players
this was the worst one, you can just hear the tism in the boys voice "Heez gawna jomp!" like he couldn't control himself he just a stinky poobutt who wants his guy to win.
@@kdhr3tbc6 This might just be my opinion, but if you're backseat coaching, that may be considered an insult to a players intelligence, at least for me. If someone tries to tell me what my opponent is trying to do, i take it the crowd thinks either I'm too dumb to read, or I'm not a good enough player and someone feels bad for me. And that's the worst. It might just be me as a person who might be too prideful, but if you make it to finals, it's probably because you deserve to be there. not because of pity. And pity is not how you win.
The moments captured in compilations are noteworthy because they're outliers. Please don't judge our whole game and community by some of our worst moments.
I felt terrible for him, Hbox never gave up, even when people said he was 'gay' or 'stupid' or 'bad' for playing Puff he never changed character. He deserve(d) cheering for his wins and it's sad everyone picks a favourite to the point one is left out..
Can you imagine accomplishing something as big as winning at EVO and then some guy ruins literally all of the good emotions you must feel by essentially saying "I wish you had lost" by throwing a crab at you? That must've ruined Hbox's whole night right there.
@@PublicREC. Nah bruh, crab was probably stank asf and that could legit injure somebody. It's also disrespectful but the disrespect part varies for different people
I really don't care for Hbox, but whenever a crowd gets straight up vitriolic towards him, it bothers me a lot. That said, HOO HAA is my favorite crowd moment ever.
@@AidanqtFeesh He's actually relatively fine now, but most people didnt like him because of how lame and campy he used to play. He also had a very fake personality and tried to act like someone he wasn't (awkward guy kinda trying to act big). He also doesnt play friendlies. His popoffs are also quite boisterous which rubs a lot of people the wrong way. Nowadays hes turned around from what I've seen though. Not my favourite player but cool guy nonetheless.
@@cookster69 he still camps when he knows he needs it to win but only plays normally when he doesn't think he needs to camp to win. Just watch his close sets recently you'll see what I'm talking about
@@cookster69 the reason he acted big was to annoy his haters even more from what i remember the whole "cool guy glasses villain" persona he had was just to show he didnt care about the haters but it broke down when he won evo
@@Himadpeoples Yeah he definitely still plays campy in many situations, but absolutely nothing like how he used to. Hbox would definitely still camp to win but he only does it when its optimal. Meta has changed. Puff is a campy character, just the nature of her. Other players like M2K camp as well and its super lame of course but you have to respect it because they're trying to win like anyone else.
@@7229432 But Nintendo core is being a family and casual focused company Starting to being assosiated with a toxic and violent community (that comes with any highly competitive activity in the world) is probably not a good move from them.
@@stefanolozardo9711 im sure no company wants to be associated with that type of behavior, i dont think its nintendo specific. but anyone with a brain doesnt associate toxic people who play street fighter with capcom the company.
Nintendo just doesn't care about the community, they only see it as a way to promote their product. Melee is like 20 years old and they don't wanna fuck with that shit. Also FGCs as others have said are pretty ratchet. Stop acting like any of them are some upstanding and benevolent lol
Mad respect to Hbox though, he worked his ass off to get to where he was in that tournament, very skilled player, if I was in his shoes too, I'd do the damn same thing.
Idk why people are so mean with HBox, he's sooooo patient to endure all this I'm pretty sure every guy complaining in the crowd isn't even able to do the half of what the players are doing, so they do it, I can't understand those kind of guys
+BlackDemon 64 a small percentage of those either hate Jigglypuff or hate that they suck balls at Smash. The vast majority though are just sheep who grab onto every bandwagon that comes across their miserable lives.
@@SteveStevenson-k7o idk about that. It also doesn't sound like him in the clip. Plus it looks like he was one of the ones trying to stop it. You can see the hbox is holding a flag and the person shown trying to stop the chants is also holding that flag so it might have been hbox stopping it. Lastly hbox is kinda number one. If hbox did start that it doesn't show kuz he's doing better than leffen
Poor Hbox, in one of his proudest moments as the best Melee player in the world, and 50% of the community hates him that bad. Even to do stuff like that. Thats messed up.
@OctagonalSM64 It's a crab lol, animal cruelty is absolutely absurb. It's crazy how once you grow older it becomes so easy to spot out the kids comments.
@@Lol-mi2bf Leffen is an awful person. He contributed to a lot of bullying towards players like Hungrybox, as well as being a generally toxic individual.
I've seen the Hbox clip a lot, but I've never seen how upset he was afterward. Genuinely makes me feel really bad for him, he doesn't deserve all the hate, he worked really hard for those victories
@Fur Q so just because other people do harder labor he cant complain? You sound like the typical "they're kids on the other side of the world starving"
@Fur Q learning mechanics and strategys to something is work. It's not very impressive work because you can't really use it in everyday life, but it's still working towards something
@Fur Q he had job finished college and while playing smash bro the dude worked hard to be a smash pro tell me which other smash player finished college, worked a job while playing smash
2:57 Dude that one breaks my heart, you can tell he is holding back tears, no one should have their moment taken away like that.. whoever threw that crab is a fuckin embarrassment
That was just terrible. Winning that match should've been a great moment for him, but instead he gets a goddamn crab thrown at him. And for what? Because he plays a certain character in this video game? Man this community can be fucking pathetic sometimes. And besides even if Jigglypuff isn't the most interesting character to watch, HungryBox is a legendary player and it took him a lot of work to get where he is now. But according to the Smash Community crowds, lame character = you're a bad person and you deserve to be exiled from society. He knows the dark side of the community better than anyone, and it seems like he's used to it at this point, but that guy was on another level with that crab bullshit. You could tell he was genuinely pissed at that and rightfully so. I'm glad the part of the crowd that are actually mentally older than 5 cheered for him after cause he deserves the support with all the pointless shit he has to go through.
Just think about how fked in the head you have to be to do that. You have to plan to bring a crab there, save it and (presumably) not eat it (IDK who would have one for other reasons), and then throw it.
2:56 This isn't even a bad crowd, just a bad person in the crowd. The rest of the crowd starts cheering him to make him feel better cause that shit ruined his happiness
The HOO HAA is Hbox’s Sub notification on his stream now. It feels like half of these are Hbox related lol. But hey, he always spins these things to something positive or turns it into a meme. All these moments are now smash history.
Don’t blame any of these guys going off on the crowd. Sometimes you just can’t bottle up your emotions anymore and gotta put toxic ass fanboys in their place.
Yeah one due was racist as fuck but oh well sine he is a dark racist he will be allowed back at tournaments. Double standard bullshit. But, I do sympathwith him going after the crowd because the fgc needs to be totally destroyed
Respect to the guy yelling at the crowd. People who are dog shit at the game can't even make it to a competition and still talk shit. Respect for him standing up and actually saying something.
@@megasoniczxx TBH, it was prominent on screen than any other FGC. There is actually an invincible wall between Smash and FGC for a reason. Heck, the most you could see was DPS and Lowtiergod. The rest like Pokchop or Filiphino Champ are just for intimidation play for laugh. I bet you would never see Smash in a scene like this and take it as a joke: ruclips.net/video/_ykAXB3JFy4/видео.html
@mehdi Haddou yeah it kind of does. This stuff happens all the time, especially for players like plup, hbox and leffen. Smash players are just immature and toxic, and have no respect for how hard pros work
@mehdi Haddou Smash has tons of toxic people in it. It may not be the whole community, but it is majority of the community. People get upset about the way others play, about how they lose, or about being a dick for no reason at all. If you look at videos about people raging in smash, you can see the potential they have. Sure it's fine to be upset, but you can't straight up insult somebody or break something. Its worse then you think it is.
The reality is that people hate HBox for his playstyle, thus hating him by proxy. You can hate the guy all you want, but he produces results. When I was heavily into melee I despised every jiggs matchup, but if they won then good on them. People are horrible lmfao.
hungrybox seems like the nicest guy ever out of bracket but when he gets on the gamecube he straight up ends friendships. the infamous crab clip makes me feel so bad for him i feel like he needs a hug.
Fuuuuu... That clip of Hungrybox... He looked like he had just been destroyed inside man... I mean, hate the player if you want but he has put so much effort into being number one, why can't people just accept that?
PS : When I'm saying "poor guy" I'm referring to the guy who is playing Who I'm calling shameful is that dick minogue that yelled "he's gonna jump" multiple times Edit : I just realised that was marss
While I don't agree violence or what Ryuga displayed, I think it's unfair to the players to be judged for their angered reaction after crowds are harassing them while they're playing. I think his emotions were 100% justified (although pushing people isn't acceptable). The heckler tried to trash talk him yet when Ryuga won, where was that same energy?
Honestly, HBox dedication to Jigglypuff even through all the hate and through all the years is impresive. Like he probably could’ve dominated smash 4 if he chose a different character because of how patient he is, but he decided to stick to Puff since 64
The crab being thrown and Hboxs famous line "you know how hard I work out here!?" Always makes me kinda sad But the crowd cheering his name after so many years of just being that top puff player everyone hated warms my heart
Hbox is one of the only pro Smash players I ever got to see playing live. I live close to him, so I would see him in small time tournaments and people would line up to get to battle with him. Nice dude. Really can’t fathom why anyone would do that to the guy If they knew who he really was.
Smash 4: *middle finger* "We don't condone that."
Melee: *middle finger* " It had to be a frame perfect flip off" "That's hype"
wtf?
Thats the funniest shit ever the commentator that said thats hype
@Base Bass Forte shut up, you speaking cringe
Smash 4: Wow, what a heartbreaker.
The difference is D1 and TK were commentating at EVO. They had to say that so mr wizard wouldn't get pissed off
Players smell so bad no one noticed the stench of a crab in the guy's pockets
Nice meme bro
@@wakapout630 But also true.
Could have been in a backpack or purse
it was literally tweeted about before it got thrown though? (nice meme though ngl)
tons of people knew and noticed the guy (a fellow jigglypuff player) who threw the crab, he even had pictures and a reserved seat for it at the venue
Imagine going to an event and dead ass having a crab in your possession
Mary
Land
It's Maryland. They basically open-carry shellfish over there.
Imagine going to an event and dead ass NOT having a crab in your possession
What do you mean, I always have a spare crab on me
@@TheBigSad8247 that was fucking hilarious
I will eternally respect the hell out of hbox, my man was hated by an entire community for being good at the game
No he was hated for his personality, get your facts straight
@@Daniel50190 What personality? The dude was just a regular ass player who beat the shit out of high tier players with a non-meta character. Cope harder.
@@Red-zn5oz just look it up if you don’t wanna live in a cave and want to actually open your mind
@@Daniel50190 You'd know a thing or two about living in a cave, I've watched HungryBox over the years and he's the one who gets hated on for no reason just because he plays an unpopular character. Your whole point of view is completely opposite from reality, please change and be a better person. When HungryBox popped off from finally getting his win after years of training with Puff, he had every right to.
@@Red-zn5oz i think u and the person ur replying to should get a life
“Dang it i hate this guy, im going to throw a crab at him”
Logic 100
mehdi Haddou same difference
That crab didn’t deserve to get killed just to be thrown at someone
Why the fuck did someone have a crab in their pocket in the first place. "Man, I'm kinda pissed off that this guy won. Oh wait, I forgot about the crab in my pocket, I'll just throw it at him."
I love how Mang0 doesn't notice at all
Imagine being a crab in the ocean just to die and have your corpse thrown in a smash tournament
That’s just how it is on this beach of an earth
If it was hbox i would gladly be that crab
being described like that just makes it even more hilarious
@@fbistatmajor5918 yes I would love to have him shake my claw
Imagine the stinch in the room-the thick musk of unwashed armpits and decaying crab carcass
Hungrybox holding a crab in his palms with the hot pink tinted walls is undeniably the most menacing hbox image i’ve ever seen
BromanGee
It’s poetic isn’t it? 💓
Especially when he was about to cry. So badass
@@TheSniperFox Yeah those tears really showoff the machismo
@@ToughDuff win a major then talk
@@doctorrussia My dad is microsoft bitch
Hoo-Hah has become such a legendary clip in my eyes. The way he delivers the hoo-hah and then the “there it is” is just perfect. So good that hbox made it his follow sound on twitch
I dont get why hbox got upset. Did he hate the hoo hah phrase or...
@@mirdagarcia6952 its generally frowned upon for spectators to yell at a player. Even more annoying when they're doing it everytime your getting bested. The "Hoo-hah" could've been "Bop-Bop". The dude shouting is being a piece of shit. It would bother any player.
@@onlineidssuck ah I see now. Thanks for the explanation
Hooh hah was the name of Hbox's grandma
Before this, I always thought that clip was from The Office US.
A lot of these are one guy causing trouble
what do you mean?
One person in the crowd yelling over the rest or the only one throwing things
Which most are trolls who get a dose of reality when they decide they can say and do the shit they do behind a keyboard and think nothing is gonna happen/is all just a joke.
jermaOneguy
@singularon1 Yeah 28 US Marines pulling up in black Ford Raptor trucks
Helicopters landed
The tournament is under siege
Under lockdown
The good old days when the biggest controversy in smash was “WHO THREW THE CRAB!?!!!”
Deadass right
Explain
@@peterwurstbrot5588 most of the top smash bros players and commentators have been outed for sexual activity with minors or just straight up rape
And the Salem mang0 beef when mang0 was “the most dangerous player in smash” ahh the good ol days
it's a result of hatred against HBox... I don't if it's good to compare with other stuff...
Alternative title: Why Nintendo won't put money into the Smash Scene.
Because its full of child praedators?
@@raggedyexynos9487 gotteem
Because all/most of the top players are toxic, and some are now revealed to be child predators.
See, it's funny because most of the folks I see wanting Nintendo to officially support Smash as an esport are Melee players
Yeah dudes, I'm sure Nintendo wants to put money into this game that's almost two decades old and from one of their failed consoles.
Definitely.
@@WhimsicottFanatic Gamecube isn't failed, but I agree for sure
Crab dude's friend: "Why in the hell are you bringing a crab?"
Crab dude: "It's a surprise tool that will help us later."
Ain't no way crab dude has friends
This comment thread only gets better, and there’s only two fucking comments 😭😭😭
The Mickey Mouse reference is crazy 💀
*WHO HATH CAST THIS CRUSTACEAN UPON MINE FORM*
I'm flabbergasted. Someone threw a whole crab at this man. That's wild 😂.
Dimitri Smith you know it was planned too. That man came to the event with a crab in his pocket.
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 I honestly didn't even think about that. Honestly, I admire the dedication
@@DSmith3279 yeah, that was fucked up. half a crab would've been enough.
DOTH THOU COMPREHEND TO WHAT LENGTHS I EXPEND THINE OWN ENERGY TO STAND ERECT AND ELEVATED BEFORE YOU?
It's good to see the crowd cheering for Hbox when he stood up for himself
Edit: on the clip with CaptainZack and Raito, Raito acted like he lost the grand finals, also he picked A LOW TIER CHARACTER
We should name that poor crab!
Juancitø target practice agent 007
But notice how no one cheered when he won the tournament. A fake ass fucking crowd if you ask me.
The man nearly got murdered for christ’s sake
I actually feel sorry for HBox, considering that he gets boo'd very frequently and the fact that he got a crab thrown to him, which could have ended horribly. However, looking at his reactions when the crowd gets mad at him, I must give him respect and props as well for being rather quite collected while facing hate from one of the biggest fighting game communities that exists as of currently.
Crowd: HOO HAH
Hungrybox: *Pissed*
Smash4: *YoU CaNnOt TaKe ScReEnShOTs*
STOP SCREAMING HOO HAH!
Hungrybox is a fucking crybaby. You can choose to wear headphones/earphones so the crowd doesn't distract you. Instead he doesn't and gets a negative response and spits the dummy. Meanwhile people are chanting "Leffen sucks" and Leffen is most likely laughing about it
@@jazzabighits4473 HungryBox gets shit on all the time, I feel like he's allowed to get a little pissed off.
@@jazzabighits4473 yea because leffen hasn't gotten tilted by the masses before? Of course he has. Also, You must be an idiot if you think headphones are going to prevent things from getting thrown at you. hungrybox may be a crybaby in your book, but at least he ain't a fucken dipshit like you.
Jazza BigHits Hungrybox literally had to deal with people chanting “fuck hbox” after every melee game. And I’d imagine it would be super distracting to hear mid game “HOO HAH” from right behind him, if that shit is so loud then I doubt headphones would do shit.
Man that frame perfect flip off is a technique only a seasoned melee veteran can ever hope to accomplish
Despite what the crowd does, the fact that hbox can just shut everyone up by death staring them is kinda funny.
we saw the back of his head, they saw the void in his eyes...
I could barely hear his yell and I was intimidated
Nerds get scared
yup
@@JoolianV you call them nerds yet you are here?
*At seafood restaurant*
Guy: “Bro, I’m full”
Friend: “You still have a crab left. You gonna throw it out?”
Guy: “Nah, I know exactly what to do with this”
Oh he's gonna throw it out all right.
THIS CRAB EMPTY! YEET!!!
That crab throw is a canon event - HBox winning Pound, however, wasn't.
bold claim to say that guy has friends
A man has fallen into the river in LEGO City!
Start the new rescue helicopter!
2:38
this made me laugh for a few minutes
This should be the top comment smh
This made me laugh for a long tine
Best comment on this video
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
“It had to be a 100% frame perfect flip-off, cause that was fast.”
“That’s hype”
Lmfao
Imagine your biggest achievement in life is attempting to undermine the accomplishments of others.
Crab mentality is a bitch
Gaminggod1997 Literally…
Murray: That's life!
Look hard enough in this comment section and u’ll find some of them. People are fucking dumb sometimes.
mehdi Haddou lmaooooo
The hbox clip always makes me so sad. The almost crying “do you know how hard I work” just destroys my heart
@@PeacefulJoint yeah man hbox be dummi thicc👄👄👅👅👅👅
He sits his fat ass in a chair and plays a video game. Color me unimpressed. Hard work, my ass.
@@CHamlin86 if you're saying that something tells me you don't even play smash
@@CHamlin86 Don't talk about his career when you haven't started any you frustrated asshole
@@Magmiteh You don't even know me, so don't go making assumptions. I never had a problem with HBox until the crab thing happened. The guy who threw the crab is an asshole, but HBox yells out for who threw it like he's a king or some shit: "Who threw that? BRING THEM BEFORE ME!" He's really full of himself and he has the gall to think that sitting in a chair and playing a video game is hard work. That's why I don't like him.
And people ask why smash is considered to have one of the worst fanbases in gaming
jotavitor cause it does like I love the game but it’s so fucking toxic sometimes just a bunch of grown man children getting mad
i feel you could say the same for any other fanbase.
@@GiovanniNero not really. Not all fanbases are this toxic or even really consider to be visibly toxic. As for smash on the other hand...
@@ChampZGameplays what do you mean when you say "visibly toxic"?
@@GiovanniNero Doing anything seen in this video? In what other games do you see people doing this shit with the frequency you see it in smash?
"Frame perfect flip-off" was hands down the funniest line of the video 🤣
Crowd: I hate Hbox!
Hbox: still popping off at his victory.
Keep the spirit alive Hbox!
a1K0Rn the hell man
Or watch some videos on how good he is. He is very respectible in many regards.
@@a1k0rn17 Leffen literally also gets hated to hell by the community from time to time yet you decide to use him as a source against HBox, when both are actually pretty decent people. You have to be kidding me. I hate people that are like "there is a story of a story of story where a well-known online personality did something bad" while using proof of that that literally comes from people of similar conditions. Silence, dude.
a1K0Rn did this dude just call him anon lol this nigga fresh off of 4chan
@@a1k0rn17 i mean... he mains puff. Puff has a campy playstyle. Why does that matter?
Smash crowds can be pretty terrible sometimes (as we see in this vid) but the crowd cheering for hbox after the crab was thrown at him was really nice
He deserves it. I think Hbox can be boring as hell and I wouldn't consider myself an Hbox fan at all but it's undeniable Hbox is amazing at the game and deserves to be respected. I don't approve at all of people verbally abusing and throwing things at him just because he's good at Melee.
Man up
@@InTrevWeTrust ??? what lol
The community is utter garbage honestly
@@wukong6853 Not to mention that the Nintendo sponsors were right there, it was a really bad look for the community.
"Guys, let's get rid of the best player by not actually beating him, but ruining his state of mind and possibly his mental health"
Mental health issues is so much worse than Physical. If someone punches me..whatever it will heal in a week or two but if someone gets into my head that shit can last months if not years. Ive seen it destroy a good number of friends since they don't know to let certain things go and get over it :( What the community did to Hbox was screwed up simply because he played defensive/counterattacker (which is how you beat fox)
Best player? Seriously? Camping ass puff fuck.
The Crusader you can’t exactly adapt to puff in melee, her mobility in the air is greater than every other character, and up throw to rest shuts down approaching. Not saying hbox deserves to get insulted and for his mental health to get jabbed at but, melee puff is infuriating.
The guys got an ego where he thinks he's unbeatable and the best smash melee player. Most of his tactics is hit and run. And any player better than him, he'll run out the clock and camp all match. He won majority of his tournaments that way. It shows that he's only in it for the prize money and that goes against everything Sakurai stands for when creating the series. He says he "respects" the game but disowned ultimate, saying Nintendo should support the melee scene awhile ignoring WHY Nintendo doesn't cause of the shitty community. Just cause you use one of the most broken characters in the game to camp and win your tournaments for the prize money awhile calling your self "The face of melee smash" doesn't exactly win respect.
Reoko you don’t understand, is is COMPETITIVE, you use any tactic you have to win even if that means camping. Getting mad at a man for wanting to win in his own way is childish. Like it or not hbox earned his wins.
Being a massive Hbox fan, it really hurts to see the shitty things people do just because he's good. That clip where he's yelling at the guy in the crowd for throwing the crab is why I have so much respect for him. He could have said so much more but he didn't. Hbox deserves better.
Agree with this. He went through so much hate just because he played Puff. I always found him playing Puff much more interesting than watching Fox players
It's because he plays puff
@@Swampson1738 You can kill a guy and get away with it by having a sick fox in melee
@@SERMareep2007 well put
@@Swampson1738 and people decide to get upset
"HE'S GONNA JUMP AGAIN"
*MARRS literally jumps up*
"Oh shi"
He read him IRL
Arm chair quArterbacks are the worst
this was the worst one, you can just hear the tism in the boys voice "Heez gawna jomp!" like he couldn't control himself he just a stinky poobutt who wants his guy to win.
@@kdhr3tbc6 This might just be my opinion, but if you're backseat coaching, that may be considered an insult to a players intelligence, at least for me. If someone tries to tell me what my opponent is trying to do, i take it the crowd thinks either I'm too dumb to read, or I'm not a good enough player and someone feels bad for me. And that's the worst. It might just be me as a person who might be too prideful, but if you make it to finals, it's probably because you deserve to be there. not because of pity. And pity is not how you win.
Palpatine was Framed opponent probably feels like shit too, he’s so easy to read that even the crowd is calling out his next move.
Not only is this a good compilation, it's also a good reminder to all of us that this kind of behavior is unacceptable.
Quack Peep and a good reminder to never go to a smash tournament
Like seriously what’s wrong with people?
D.J. Ferg well... just look at them
The moments captured in compilations are noteworthy because they're outliers. Please don't judge our whole game and community by some of our worst moments.
Oh no. A crab.
When hbox choked up while saying "You know how hard I work up here!?" I felt all his pain right there
I felt bad for the crab that probaly died multiple times
I felt terrible for him, Hbox never gave up, even when people said he was 'gay' or 'stupid' or 'bad' for playing Puff he never changed character. He deserve(d) cheering for his wins and it's sad everyone picks a favourite to the point one is left out..
@@liamii5603 right he sticked so hard with puff even with all the hate
Lol that's kinda gay if I'm being honest.
@@markcarls1896 then why you sound so gay ? and im being honest .
I've always had major respect for HBox, one of the best puff players out there. Keep going strong.
Fuck puff
Strong like the blood he coughed
He is the best puff player out there
That's the oddest sentence typed ...
Basically all hbox or smash 4 lol
Shows how autistic and toxic the Melee and SM4SH community is.
Shame he dropped the famous pink Pokemon for a G.O.D.
or in the rare case, its both hungrybox AND smash 4
im new here why does everyone hate hbox he seems like a fun dude
You gotta respect Hbox for tolerating all that shit
"A 100% frame perfect flip-off" LMAO is this guy for real
"That's hype."
What does that even mean 😂
But why did he lazer?
That was my favorite line too lmao
Frame 1 Flip Off
Can you imagine accomplishing something as big as winning at EVO and then some guy ruins literally all of the good emotions you must feel by essentially saying "I wish you had lost" by throwing a crab at you? That must've ruined Hbox's whole night right there.
It was pound 2019.
@@natetastic_ Still a big win, but yes. Not Evo.
imagine beating the entire NA in a tournament and then crying about a crab
@@Swejish fr i would find that shit funny as hell. Even if it did hit me it’d be a pretty good joke.
@@PublicREC. Nah bruh, crab was probably stank asf and that could legit injure somebody. It's also disrespectful but the disrespect part varies for different people
5:02 the difference between someone who tried hard to make it (guy in the hoodie) vs someone who's never really felt pushed back before
I really don't care for Hbox, but whenever a crowd gets straight up vitriolic towards him, it bothers me a lot.
That said, HOO HAA is my favorite crowd moment ever.
And it was Tampa's own Manny that started it all
@@AidanqtFeesh He's actually relatively fine now, but most people didnt like him because of how lame and campy he used to play. He also had a very fake personality and tried to act like someone he wasn't (awkward guy kinda trying to act big). He also doesnt play friendlies. His popoffs are also quite boisterous which rubs a lot of people the wrong way. Nowadays hes turned around from what I've seen though. Not my favourite player but cool guy nonetheless.
@@cookster69 he still camps when he knows he needs it to win but only plays normally when he doesn't think he needs to camp to win. Just watch his close sets recently you'll see what I'm talking about
@@cookster69 the reason he acted big was to annoy his haters even more from what i remember the whole "cool guy glasses villain" persona he had was just to show he didnt care about the haters but it broke down when he won evo
@@Himadpeoples Yeah he definitely still plays campy in many situations, but absolutely nothing like how he used to. Hbox would definitely still camp to win but he only does it when its optimal. Meta has changed. Puff is a campy character, just the nature of her. Other players like M2K camp as well and its super lame of course but you have to respect it because they're trying to win like anyone else.
The fact that HungryBox upload a video "taking revenge" and eating a crab just make his clip better
sauce?
Me too. Sauce plz
blop blep it’s one hboxs channel
Wasn’t his sub noise hoo-hah for a bit too?
@@juanjohnslivers6720 it still is and its funny af
"Why Nintendo won't sponsor Smash"
This is sad but I believe this is one of the reasons : the community itself
@@wakapout630 uhhh have yall seen the fgc? like in general lol. theres some hardcore disrespectful players in every community
@@7229432 But Nintendo core is being a family and casual focused company
Starting to being assosiated with a toxic and violent community (that comes with any highly competitive activity in the world) is probably not a good move from them.
@@stefanolozardo9711 im sure no company wants to be associated with that type of behavior, i dont think its nintendo specific. but anyone with a brain doesnt associate toxic people who play street fighter with capcom the company.
Nintendo just doesn't care about the community, they only see it as a way to promote their product. Melee is like 20 years old and they don't wanna fuck with that shit.
Also FGCs as others have said are pretty ratchet. Stop acting like any of them are some upstanding and benevolent lol
Mad respect to Hbox though, he worked his ass off to get to where he was in that tournament, very skilled player, if I was in his shoes too, I'd do the damn same thing.
1:55 I thought items were banned
Sammy DeLorenzi that’s obviously a peach turnip pull
Didn't know you can pull the Crab from a turnip. Thanks bro!
That’s a joke lads
@@ValidationOff only 0.0003%
@@Connor_Kirkpatrick Heavy is Dead reference?
Idk why people are so mean with HBox, he's sooooo patient to endure all this
I'm pretty sure every guy complaining in the crowd isn't even able to do the half of what the players are doing, so they do it, I can't understand those kind of guys
@@Takira_J Probably xD
You really don't know why?
+BlackDemon 64 a small percentage of those either hate Jigglypuff or hate that they suck balls at Smash. The vast majority though are just sheep who grab onto every bandwagon that comes across their miserable lives.
@@JayAreAitch Why i need to know why such a good player needs to get disrespected so much
@@SaifKhan-nw6zn Puff.
The absolute fact why Nintendo will never sponsor competitive scenes.
and they shouldn't either. bad group of people
@@cboyslim5490 atrocious group of people. Unless these sacks of sh*t can front the money themselves but they won't. Too incompetent.
@@matguimond92 bias much?
@@cboyslim5490 Just because some people in the community are bad doesn't mean everyone is bad.
I promise you if nintendo sponsored us in the 2010s the community wouldnt be this toxic
Crowd: *LEFFEN SUCKS! LEFFEN SUCKS*
Hbox: “hey, hey, stop, *have some respect* “
We don’t deserve Juan.
Isn't he some sort of creep? If so, you're right. Fuck him.
I don’t like or respect Leffen but that first clip was crazy disrespectful.
it seems that the chant was started by hbox, karma is a bitch i guess
Steve Stevenson do we know that or we just guessing?
@@SteveStevenson-k7o It looked to me like someone beside Hbox started it and Hbox was the one who told people to shut up and chant USA instead
@@SteveStevenson-k7o idk about that. It also doesn't sound like him in the clip. Plus it looks like he was one of the ones trying to stop it. You can see the hbox is holding a flag and the person shown trying to stop the chants is also holding that flag so it might have been hbox stopping it. Lastly hbox is kinda number one. If hbox did start that it doesn't show kuz he's doing better than leffen
Lmao people always trying to start a conspiracy.
Poor Hbox was almost crying
He had a bad time back then
Yeah the man plays in a way people don’t love and gets legitimately bullied for the shit
Fuck him it was super funny should have thrown another at him
“Hes going to jump again”
Marss jumps out of his chair
I mean hes not wrong
That dude was a prophet xD
I love these hecklers.
these pRo sMaSh players are a pissy bunch of losers.
Poor Hbox, in one of his proudest moments as the best Melee player in the world, and 50% of the community hates him that bad. Even to do stuff like that. Thats messed up.
“Why would you throw something”
Deadass ignoring the fact it’s a real crab
lets be honest: even if it was fake, it doesn't change the fact hbox got something thrown at him just because he won a tournament
@OctagonalSM64 dude, its a crab.
@OctagonalSM64 are you a vegan
@OctagonalSM64 It's a crab lol, animal cruelty is absolutely absurb. It's crazy how once you grow older it becomes so easy to spot out the kids comments.
@OctagonalSM64 “humans are the worst things ever”
Maybe get off the internet once in a while.
Imagine being so mad to throw a crab just because your favorite player didnt won
Cursed pfp
How do you even get a crab in that situation???
@@non_brewed_condiment The foul smell made it easier to smuggle it in.
@@diegomedina9637 lmao
You have never seen football have You?
I like how the crowd chanted hbox name after he yelled at the dude who threw the crab at him. Shows most people aren't assholes i think
They were booing him. For years, the entire smash community hated him to an irrational degree because they didn't like that he was a Jigglypuff main
@@thermophile1695I think from that point onward people started to appreciate him more so I’m not sure if that was support or not
@@ochuspin
You'd have to ask Hbox to find out exactly when that turning point of abuse to support started.
Knowing who Leffen is, that first clip was deserved imho
Wym im out of the loop
@@Lol-mi2bf Leffen is an awful person. He contributed to a lot of bullying towards players like Hungrybox, as well as being a generally toxic individual.
Nothing wrong with Leffen getting hazed by the crowd. Maybe he'll take the hint and retire soon.
left fin socks
left fin socks
Jcast1 who is left fin, and why does he sock
Scrub that dish
YOU GO LEFT FIN
Who is left fin and why do people chant his socks
Right tail shoes
I've seen the Hbox clip a lot, but I've never seen how upset he was afterward. Genuinely makes me feel really bad for him, he doesn't deserve all the hate, he worked really hard for those victories
He wasn t upset he was raging at the dude who threw a crab at him
Fortunately, it got better. There are still some sheep who hate him because they thing Jigglypuff is lame, but he has the fans he deserves
@Fur Q so just because other people do harder labor he cant complain? You sound like the typical "they're kids on the other side of the world starving"
@Fur Q learning mechanics and strategys to something is work. It's not very impressive work because you can't really use it in everyday life, but it's still working towards something
@Fur Q he had job finished college and while playing smash bro the dude worked hard to be a smash pro tell me which other smash player finished college, worked a job while playing smash
2:57 Dude that one breaks my heart, you can tell he is holding back tears, no one should have their moment taken away like that.. whoever threw that crab is a fuckin embarrassment
I honestly love HungryBox. I love how the crowd cheered for him after, too. :)
That was just terrible. Winning that match should've been a great moment for him, but instead he gets a goddamn crab thrown at him. And for what? Because he plays a certain character in this video game? Man this community can be fucking pathetic sometimes. And besides even if Jigglypuff isn't the most interesting character to watch, HungryBox is a legendary player and it took him a lot of work to get where he is now. But according to the Smash Community crowds, lame character = you're a bad person and you deserve to be exiled from society. He knows the dark side of the community better than anyone, and it seems like he's used to it at this point, but that guy was on another level with that crab bullshit. You could tell he was genuinely pissed at that and rightfully so. I'm glad the part of the crowd that are actually mentally older than 5 cheered for him after cause he deserves the support with all the pointless shit he has to go through.
@@speedude0164 amen to this
@@dvorak826 but they didn’t cheer when he won
Just think about how fked in the head you have to be to do that. You have to plan to bring a crab there, save it and (presumably) not eat it (IDK who would have one for other reasons), and then throw it.
I've never laughed so damn loud at somebody saying "HOO HAH" before in my life. Absolutely amazing.
2:56
This isn't even a bad crowd, just a bad person in the crowd. The rest of the crowd starts cheering him to make him feel better cause that shit ruined his happiness
That’s because he stood up for himself. Angry Hbox is scary as hell
@@Timebomb_19to who?? LOL
@@ghostface1500 well logically I can only speak for myself, so that’s a dumb question.
@@ghostface1500me bro id start crying if he screamed in my direction
Yeah genuinely felt sorry for him when he mentioned how hard he worked to get there. Glad the rest of the crowd was there for him
The HOO HAA is Hbox’s Sub notification on his stream now. It feels like half of these are Hbox related lol. But hey, he always spins these things to something positive or turns it into a meme. All these moments are now smash history.
ooga booga hbox bad ooga booga
leffen say hbox bad so hbox bad
He got so fucking mad lol, what a bitch
@@calunchained Literally anyone would be pissed off in the same situation lmao people tend not to like it when you throw shit at them for no reason
@@MichaelTheAwesome32 y'all are fucking soft
_You know how hard I worked out here??!!_
man, the small sob in the sentence made me feel sad for him
@Jakman char* Lol that's all I really play is Smash bros. I'm nasty af with ROB 🤖🤖
I worked hard enough to start crying over seafood
@@SamaelVR bad bait
@@crack4184 Just the truth lol
2:30 i can hear someone saying "this is bullshit!" after the crab was thrown.
I don’t think throwing the crab was right but I do have to say that the fact they picked a crab over literally anything else is hilarious
There has to be some context as of why he chose a f*cking crab out of all things.
@@HKipmy guess is because the tournament it happened at (Pound) is in Maryland, and Maryland is very known for their crabs.
I know we're in it for the salt, but we're still playing a video games.
People on the stage are really good at this game but they're still human.
Maybe, but some people just don't care about the players and just talk smack about them.
Omg, just because their losing, we have the right to scream OmG My GoOOoOooD.
Bashura _00 what do you mean maybe?😆 Maybe they’re humans?
Don’t blame any of these guys going off on the crowd. Sometimes you just can’t bottle up your emotions anymore and gotta put toxic ass fanboys in their place.
Exactly. Lot of them stinky, lazy, overweight, undesirable looking mfers too, talking the most, and they suck at gaming too. Foh
Yeah one due was racist as fuck but oh well sine he is a dark racist he will be allowed back at tournaments. Double standard bullshit. But, I do sympathwith him going after the crowd because the fgc needs to be totally destroyed
“The Smash Community. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.”
Or at the very least, you'll never find one whose negatives are more publicized in the competitive gaming community.
Respect to the guy yelling at the crowd. People who are dog shit at the game can't even make it to a competition and still talk shit. Respect for him standing up and actually saying something.
For some reason people still wonder why this community doesn't get sponsored by Nintendo...
Yeah, epitome man-childish and unnecessarily toxic
To be fair, this is pretty much the whole FGC, not just smash. People in competitive anything tend to get really riled up when money's involved.
@@megasoniczxx TBH, it was prominent on screen than any other FGC. There is actually an invincible wall between Smash and FGC for a reason. Heck, the most you could see was DPS and Lowtiergod. The rest like Pokchop or Filiphino Champ are just for intimidation play for laugh. I bet you would never see Smash in a scene like this and take it as a joke:
ruclips.net/video/_ykAXB3JFy4/видео.html
@@zhaoyun255 I'm sad that i've only seen that video now. Had me rolling xD
@@megasoniczxx That was a classic. Heck, they even did that in an EVO 2019 Tekken pool last year. It was a money match in that clip btw.
A good example why Smash has one of the worst communites ever
@mehdi Haddou You underestimate the smash community so much
@mehdi Haddou yeah it kind of does. This stuff happens all the time, especially for players like plup, hbox and leffen. Smash players are just immature and toxic, and have no respect for how hard pros work
The Crusader still hit me hard that scandal.
@mehdi Haddou You just don't understand. *sigh*
@mehdi Haddou Smash has tons of toxic people in it. It may not be the whole community, but it is majority of the community. People get upset about the way others play, about how they lose, or about being a dick for no reason at all.
If you look at videos about people raging in smash, you can see the potential they have. Sure it's fine to be upset, but you can't straight up insult somebody or break something. Its worse then you think it is.
Leffen deserved that crowd reaction. Dude's a horrible human being.
RESPECT HUNGRYBOX.
He wins using the same tools available to everyone else.
He DESERVES all of his wins.
That's a very good wisdom
But it's no secret why he's hated. They hate him BECAUSE he's the best. The crowd doesn't hate him as a person, they hate jigglypuff.
They hate him cause hbox sets are hella boring. That being said no need to make it personal.
The reality is that people hate HBox for his playstyle, thus hating him by proxy. You can hate the guy all you want, but he produces results. When I was heavily into melee I despised every jiggs matchup, but if they won then good on them. People are horrible lmfao.
Word.
hungrybox seems like the nicest guy ever out of bracket but when he gets on the gamecube he straight up ends friendships. the infamous crab clip makes me feel so bad for him i feel like he needs a hug.
And still people wonder why Nintendo has absolutely no interest in interacting with the competitive Smash community. smh
Educate yourself
@@sptflcrw8583 very helpful comment
@@Buttington_Headerson this isn’t why, lol
Nintendo is flawed when it comes to who they support anywsy
Oh they interact... by actively trying to screw over the competitive smash scene. It's more than just wanting to distance themselves
4:15 this man's laugh is priceless
Dude hearing the pain in his voice when he said "Do you know how hard I've worked in here" broke my heart
Fuuuuu... That clip of Hungrybox... He looked like he had just been destroyed inside man...
I mean, hate the player if you want but he has put so much effort into being number one, why can't people just accept that?
10:38
"If you gotta be a villain you might as well play the part"
Yooo this dude is not wrong, dang man. 😵
He was such a good villain with his game fixing that he got banned for life lol.
Lazer V4 hes not banned for life lol
I hope that Zack dissapear for people's life for good.
Bro at 8:45 is shameful....
Straight up shameful....
Poor guy...
PS : When I'm saying "poor guy" I'm referring to the guy who is playing
Who I'm calling shameful is that dick minogue that yelled "he's gonna jump" multiple times
Edit : I just realised that was marss
3:01 the crab missed the tech
HAHAHA
LMAO
Not gonna lie, kinda respect HBox a little more after this
Alex Lewis He’s such a good guy. Sucks how much a competitive scene like this can just undermine someone’s real personality like this
@@rusti1910 apparently he used to be super toxic, but he's such a cool dude now, my favourite streamer
@@raihanislam912 i hope ur not basing that off of just his streams. Just saying. I do think he is a decent person tho.
@@Marc-rw3dd he seems nice.
I'm just gonna say that no matter how someone hates Hbox, you just have to respect all his goals and life.
"Corrin player" instead of Ryuga. I forgot he did that shit LOL he's matured a lot though, he's way better now
Did you know your bald?
Love ya esam 😝
ESAM eric aka esam
There was absolutely no reason that you had to mention that was Ryuga, I’m sure he wants to move on from this without you bringing it up
@@MrCalpolkid highly doubt he would notice this comment
While I don't agree violence or what Ryuga displayed, I think it's unfair to the players to be judged for their angered reaction after crowds are harassing them while they're playing. I think his emotions were 100% justified (although pushing people isn't acceptable). The heckler tried to trash talk him yet when Ryuga won, where was that same energy?
2:03 I thought items where banned at tournaments?
The crowed cheering for hbox after that crab shit really shows how far we’ve come since the leffin chants.
Spring Feel or... we grew as a community...
You're giving us way too much credit, lol.
*Crowd abuse happening*
Crowd: Look at this happy little family.
Smash Player: They won't be happy when I'm done with them. HOO HAH!
Bl@deM4ster10 “Is that supposed to sound like me? Cause it doesn’t.”
2:55 this is why i love hbox, he puts so much emotion and care into melee. hes genuinely a great dude
2:48 didn't know zach galifianakis was a pro smash player
Honestly, HBox dedication to Jigglypuff even through all the hate and through all the years is impresive. Like he probably could’ve dominated smash 4 if he chose a different character because of how patient he is, but he decided to stick to Puff since 64
Some dudes hardest moment of his life was talkin shit to a nerd at a smash meet
LMAOOOO
@Marco Zepeda his diss was intense
I was howling laughing
The crab being thrown and Hboxs famous line "you know how hard I work out here!?" Always makes me kinda sad
But the crowd cheering his name after so many years of just being that top puff player everyone hated warms my heart
They are booing him
After knowing what we know about leffen now I don’t feel so bad.
Yeah you can feel bad about basically everyone in the video except for Leffen
@@catguy23 what happened
@@longebane basically leffen is an ass
@@catguy23 did he do anything recently? or is this just a general statement
@@longebane yes to both but its better if you look up leffen's most recent fuck up rather than have me explain it
I’ve seen the Hbox crab video a dozen times by now, and I just noticed GimR in the background
These are mostly clips of the crowd having a go at Hbox and it make me sad for Hbox
I dont know whats more putrid.
The room smell or their attitudes
5:10 low tier god energy
Nah lowtiergod doesnt win his matches, at least ryuga won and was getting heckled by the crowd first
Hbox is one of the only pro Smash players I ever got to see playing live. I live close to him, so I would see him in small time tournaments and people would line up to get to battle with him. Nice dude. Really can’t fathom why anyone would do that to the guy If they knew who he really was.
I honestly feel bad for Hbox, just a nice dude tryna play the game, it hurts to see people shit on him all the time
He’s not nice he’s a douchebag
@@vegaplus420 “oh nooo he has a little bit of ego nooo humans are not allowed to have nooo he plays a hated character noooo”
@@dome4507 I’m not talking about his ego I’m talking about he’s a major dickhead
@@vegaplus420 hm, either way, I’m assuming that you won’t give any proof as to why he is one, got it.
@@dome4507 I asked him for an autograph and he declined me and told me I was a nobody
This is why crowds shouldn't be able to dictate what happens in a match by coaching.
Hbox vs the giant enemy crab will never not be peak Smash Community
when he said “you know how hard I worked up here?” that hit me
In retrospect, everytime that the crowd shat on Captain Zack, it was completely fucking justified.
Half of the people in that clip turned out to be rapists
@@OsKarMike1306 which is crazy as shit lmfao
@@OsKarMike1306 smash players be like
@@OsKarMike1306 HUH WHAT
Whos captain zack
All I see is a bunch of grown men acting like LITERAL apes.
Pro tip: Humans are apes.
@@AzazelFox No, it's just a fact. Humans are apes.
@@encycl07pedia- nah, he's right. If you wanna be called an ape tho, you do you.
@@encycl07pedia- actually the joke was ok, but you response was dumb
Humans are literal apes.
Pro-Smash is such a toxic and morally bankrupt scene. No wonder Nintendo won't touch it with a 100ft pole.