See why these Pilots Couldn’t Do Anything to Save their Aircraft (Real Audio)
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2021
- Just 10 minutes after takeoff, ValuJet Flight 592 starts filling with smoke after a fire breaks out in the main cargo bay as it is flying over Miami. Find out what happens next.
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“If you think safety becomes expensive, wait until you have an accident” my ATC Safety Instructor always said...
This is always my thought. From the millions of dollars in fines, restitution, repairs and insurance, etc. just do it right in the first place!
Better to be delayed and find a problem on the ground then to discover it in the air.
$90k per life is a bargain.
@@flipnap2112 in the movie "Sully", there is a scene where Sully is sitting in his hotel room and opens a fortune cookie. The fortune read, "Better a delay than a disaster". This is so true. Have a wonderful day.
@@KristinCortez God bless you
27 year old DC9 with value written on the side. Thanks I'll get the bus.
Never been to the states but I'm told greyhound are up to Valujet standard
@@edwinfitchett6033 As it turns out, that standard is bursting into flames mid air.
SabreTech was to blame, not ValueJet. Just saying.
@@edwinfitchett6033 Greyhound blows. Unless you absolutely need to get somewhere.
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An uncontrolled in-flight cabin fire that I can't fight is the only thing that has every worried me in a 32 year pilot career. I knew Candi. She was at the mercy of every pilot's nightmare. Tailwinds always.
It’s so sad when you know a pilot just wants to keep everyone safe
I worked for Valujet back then and knew her too. Not very well though but enough that when I heard the plane had crashed and that she was the pilot, I knew that there was no way it was pilot error.
So sorry to hear of your loss. ❤
she and Richard did everything they could to save the plane
The rules of aviation safety are written in blood. Very tragic accident 💔
Some of them are, yes.
Most of them in some way are.
sometimes it needs more than one disaster to have things fixed ... Follow the money. Always follow the money.
@jamc666 Or science. Or enginnering.
So true - rulings came too late for the 110 poor souls who lost their lives so that we -- as the flying public, won't ever suffer THAT same fate (hopefully).
In 1995, the military refused ValuJet's bid to fly military personnel over safety worries, and officials at the FAA wanted the airline to be grounded.
My question is why wasn't it grounded?
@@bradmccullough8240 Ask the FAA.
@@flexairz Who needs more "burdensome regulations?" /snark
That is the million dollar question. And why was Sabretech allowed to operate? They also had a shitty record.
@@machintelligence the accident happened in spite of the regulations already put in place exactly to avoid this type of accident. Regulations did nothing.
Surprised they failed to mention in this video there is STILL an arrest warrant out for one of the SabreTech employees who skipped town during investigations. For 25 Years FBI Have Vigorously Pursued Mechanic Suspected In The ValuJet Crash but still have not caught him.
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omg!
@jeffostroff
I would imagine that he is probably a foreign national that came into the USA on an HB-1 visa.
So wherever he was from that is where he can be found the US probably doesn't have some kind of agreement with whichever country it is.
Greg Feith mentioned it in his podcast when he and John Goglia discussed that crash.
He's an illegal alien, buddy!
My daughter worked the office and spent 55 straight hours helping families make arrangements to come to the crash site. She was just 18. She has never forgotten.
That sucks I'm sad hope she's found ways to make peace. What a soldier!
Tailwinds always for you and your family, Kent.
wow.. what a way to start her adult working career. I hope she's doing well.
This hits me close to home. My best friend’s brother was on this flight. I’ll eventually watch it all, but it’ll take me weeks at watching it in 10 second intervals.
R.I.P.
I'm so sorry for your loss
😢😢😢🤗🤗🤗
Porcupine, maybe it's best not to view this. Why add further trauma to your psyche when it's not necessary? Viewing it will leave an indelible imprint in your memory bank that you will not be able to release.
I was booked on the flight, but changed my itinerary to the next day so I could spend an extra day in Miami. Instead of being on the flight, I was laying out on South Beach that Saturday when it crashed. I remember all the Miami Dade, Coast Guard search and rescue helicopters, planes etc flying towards the glades and wondering what happened until I went back to my room and turned on the news. Not ashamed to say, I fainted, right there on the floor. I wonder sometimes who got my seat.
The captain had only turned 35 the day before. That poor crew and those poor people! RIP
Her name was Candy, though. Yuck.
@@B3Band Who cares?
The captain was an Eastern Airlines scab
@@ogc90 Again, if true, who cares?
@@TheMaleficent1 The Eastern pilots that didnt scab , snowflake
I remember always. Was at my college graduation...one of the graduates was getting his degree. They said his mother was on that flight. He continued to march & get his degree for her. Broke everyone's heart.
If they're white.. I don't care. Ahhahah more please!
@@Brock-Lesnar-WWE Tf is wrong with you??
@@Brock-Lesnar-WWE too bad some aren't
I remember to this day that accident and the fact sabretech didn’t train their employees properly and misled them to believe the canisters were safe still makes me sick, tragic accident that could’ve been avoided
The prosecutors showed videos of the oxygen canisters burning but they didn't show the part how they had use a torch to set them on fire. They didn't mention that the DC-9's had the worst safety record by far for fires compared to other commercial airliners. They also didn't mention that just before that flight a circuit breaker kept tripping on the plane and they bypassed the breaker.
From the summary in the video, I expected at least involuntary manslaughter charges against Sabretech. Fines is all they got? Are the irresponsible employees still authorized to work in the industry? How many other lies are printed on cargo manifests?
Why is it when and human life is taken away on a flight THEN action is taken not before there should be contingency to avoid situations like this and i agree shouldent they be charged for manslaugter as that would of never happened if dealt correctly, i mean 110 + people died and not and single manslaughter charge wtf, money can always be earned and paid back but loosing and life is something that cannot be brought back or paid for makes me sick -_-
@@icarcity2235 there was contingency, but it was bypassed by lies and misleading statements. Looks like the ground crew thought they were loading "safe" cargo.
Agreed, minimum manslaughter, or why not murder since it was a deliberate act of deception
@@ashlogan2049 yes the ground handlers believed they were loading empty canisters and not generators
This one hit me harder than all the others. I think it's the sheer helplessness of it all. There was literally nothing anyone could've done and it just kept on getting worse and worse. What I think it's important to take away from this is that sometimes paying a little extra is worth it for quality and safety. Rest in peace to all that lost their lives
Me too. I felt the same
Even today, people on the ramp stack baggage to the ceiling,blocking the fire suppression systems. I make them re do the entire pit. This accident is ALWAYS on my mind, and I won't compromise passengers lives.
Captain Candi Kubeck was the first female captain to die in a commercial airline crash.
R.I.P
Candalyn "Candi" Kubecken.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candi_Kubeck.🙏
Let us hope that she and most people on board passed out due to smoke Inhalation before impact.
R.I.P.
@@Schrottkralle The last minutes of the CVR record only the wind so she and the first officer likely did pass out.
A critical observation about Captain Kubeck: I can't help but wonder why a self-respecting pilot would want to fly for a shitty airline. . . .
@@orvilleh.larson7581 She probably considered it a stepping stone to a job with a real airline. Can't say I blame her.
when the pilots stop responding to ATC, you know it's over.
Not true. They might just be too busy flying the plane. The most famous example is the water landing on the Hudson River. The pilot stopped responding for a significant period of time after saying "unable", as the air traffic controller continued to list airport runway options.
No,the pilots may not heard or may were 🤔 to respond, they also maybe be seeing something on control panel to respond a question.
@@trevorlambert4226 Exactly. You have to make priorities. Flying has to come first!
@@frederikzinn5427 isn’t part of flying talking to ATC?
@@sassytbc7923 Depends a bit on your understanding. In case of emergency you wanna keep airborne. THAT means flying. It does not matter where you go or that you tell others about it. It is about making sure you dont crash.
Communication is very important, yet, if you hit the ground, there is no communication either. So first priority is to fly the aircraft!
Out of all the plane crashes, the wrecks, or any solved/unsolved cases...THIS one always stays with me.
The character drawing on the side of the fuselage has always disturbed me in the saddest way 😔
It sticks with me too. My mother,my oldest sister and one of her daughters were on a flight from New York to Salt Lake City,UT that same day. Being a person who always worries when loved ones fly,I hadn't heard from them yet,when the 6 o'clock news on NBC had come on,leading with this story. That tenth of a second between Tom Brokaw saying "A plane crash" and "in Florida" was the longest fraction of a second of my life. You never know when it's your time,and you never know how a lot of these airlines run,with regard to how they handle and transport unsafe materials. This crash and South African Airways 295 were two of the worst
@@henrymanzano9168 I can only imagine being in your situation, and hearing the news- word for word- on the tv news...
yeah there's something about that logo just screams "don't get on this plane, this airline is run by idiots"
Today, expired oxygen generators are never transported by plane, but by truck.
Agreed
Smart
I don't understand why it wasn't always like that. Don't they have any forward thinking skills? Life is cheap, I guess. "Let's wait and see what happens before we make changes....".
Good to know
That's why DHL don't transports any hazardous materials like rechargeable lithium batteries by airmail.
my dad was a nuclear physicist who worked on this fire and recreated it in his lab, Western Fire Center. It was pretty cool to see the recreation of the hold, the boxes, the fire. Amazing video ♥
Amazing. Do you happen to know if there is video footage of his research? I’d love to see the recreation of this.
@@journalgirrl ny dad passed away in 2009. My brother is still running the company. I can ask him ♥
@@German_Shepherd_Mom Bless your heart. My belated condolences. 💜💜💜
@@journalgirrl thank you ♥
Wow that’s quite a coincidence… sounds like an interesting childhood!! 💝
Great videos. What always hits me hard is imagining the terror those on board would feel that instant when they knew it was over. Especially the pilots who work so hard to keep everyone safe, yet realize there is nothing more they can do. Horrible!
@Jim West
Agreed. The only thing I can imagine is that somehow the pilots could have donned their own bottled O2 masks, but with no ability to actually control the plane...probably all they would have had up till the end might have been the ability to control engine speed.
A horrific way to perish....fire coming right up through the floor with passengers' feet alit. I can only imagine the panic that must have ensued.
@@provisionalhypothesis yes they say flying is the safest form of transport, but it’s not the odds of a crash that worries people , but the nature in which it would happen. Minutes of pure terror before plunging to death and watching happen in real time
@@holisticbiohacker8144 it's the safest form huh?
Would you rather be involved in a car accident or a plane crash?
Sure plane crashes are rare but people win the lottery every single day.
Seems to with smoke and fire, you put the plane down immediately on any open ground. Why not?
It boggles my mind that a company like this was allowed to operate. The US military turned down their bid to transport due to safety concerns, that should tell you something. The fact that it took a tragedy like this happening for anything to be done is scary, and illustrates the negative part of capitalism.
Especially since in the mid-70's they were chartering TIA (Trans International Airways, not TWA) DC-8+. TIA, out of the Philippines, had 747's they used for air cargo... but used the old 1950's - 1960's DC-8+ for military charters to save... MONEY. Only after one of their DC-8+ passenger birds lost an engine mid-Pacific... it didn't stop working... it FELL OFF THE PLANE... did the parents of military members raise such a stink in Congress that the military was forced to use U.S. flagged airlines. Oh and, if you fly and don't already know, NEVER EVER get on an AllegiantAir bird. Their maintenance and emergency landing history is horrible. A crash waiting to happen.
Interesting to note the differences in safety culture between the Pentagon and the 'line' units. Line units are absolutely anal about following safety rules while the 'echelons above reality' seem to think that yet another mind-numbing Powerpoint presentation is going to solve the problem.
Exactly. No accidents, reckless behaviour, and corruption ever occurred in Socialist and Communist countries. Soviet Russia and China have the best safety records.
That’s not capitalism. That’s out and out greed
@@jimb12312 lol brother.... hes not saying capitalism is bad.... hes saying this is a negative aspect of it.... were human lives have a price tag. If you cant see that ( which wouldnt surprise me) I feel deeply sorry for you and the people who need to deal with you on a daily basis.
Awesome job!! I'm gonna keep my feet on the ground! This was heartbreaking! The flight attendant Jennifer Stearns. Her dad was my manager. I remember her back to when she was a young little girl. Adorable!! Great family!! Love them all. So tragic! What a loss she was!
Valujet actually did recover, just in a rather sneaky way-they purchased a much smaller airline named AirTran-and then renamed themselves AirTran. Despite adopting the name and logo of the smaller predecessor, the bulk of the merged airline's equipment and employees came from Valujet, as did all its executives. AirTran/Valujet continued to operate for a decade and a half after the crash, until it was bought out by Southwest in 2011.
Indeed.
To be fair, Southwest promptly got rid of their dodgy old planes.
Sneaky
So, it’s still operating then. Splains a lot.
@@virginiaviola5097No.
The production in this is absolutely superb
My parents thought it was weird when I told them, "I watch plane crash videos to relax." But it's because of the beautiful music- majestic, tragic- and the views of the flights; there's also something comforting about the predictable arc, the cozy enclosed space of the cabin, the highly technical descriptions and the way problems are remedied or explained- something about all of these aspects, when taken together, is strangely reassuring.
I have to admit. I am a total Flight Channel junkie.
@@erinthesystem9608 well said
@@cryptohunter8119 Thx! 😊
You know if the military denies it due to safety regulations then it's definitely a bad airline 🤣
In 1976 I flew to Okinawa Japan on a military charter. It was a Trans International Airways (TIA... not TWA) stretched DC-8. Remember those... from the late 50's - early 60's. It was one of the very first jet-engine airliners. TIA, which was an airline out of the Philippines, had 747's that they used for cargo. But, they used the old outdated DC-8+ birds for military charters so they could under bid the competition. Only after one of their DC-8's lost an engine... it didn't stop working... it FELL OFF THE PLANE mid-Pacific... did parents of military members raise enough of a stink with Congress that the military was restricted to using only U.S. based airlines. Luckily, even the military wasn't stupid enough to charter ValuJet birds. Oh and, if you fly and don't know it already ... NEVER EVER get on an AllegiantAir bird. Other than a crash that hasn't happened yet, they have a horrible maintenance and emergency landing history :( Pretty much a crash waiting to happen..................
Not necessarily. The military's MIL-SPECs are far more stringent than what you'll find in commercial applications.
@@PhilMoskowitz Really??? All governments in the U.S., whether federal or state or local, and whether the military or NASA or whatever has, at least in the very near past, taken the lowest bid regardless of even national origin. There are even Chinese-made electronics in our fighter aircraft. And, it really pisses me off seeing vehicles from foreign-owned manufacturers being used as government vehicles... and that includes Dodge. At least Trump tried to get it into law that the federal government was required to buy American unless the product/part was unavailable from a U.S. manufacturer.
Or where they are based and who's Senator they're "good friends" with...
I would rather fly with USA military than any airline. Best trained pilots. And strict maintenance and safety by Air Force personnel. Most of the best pilots that go fly commercial Airlines and mechanic come from Air Force or military around the world. So you best respect the military bae.
I remember this accident. The incompetence and disregard for safety was staggering.
I’ve watched a bunch of these and while I have gotten angry at pilots making errors, I think this is the one that has pissed me off the most. Such a tragedy that never should have even happened.
The company who made those oxygen cannisters FAILED to supply the proper plastic caps to seal them for their (eventual) safe disposal.
So, there was NO way for those Sabertech emoloyees to render these empty cannisters 'Safe' for shipping & disposal.
How Tragic.
@@psalm2forliberty577 The main problem at hand was that they weren't empty at all - just past their shelf life. And as I've understood it, the people who packaged them knew they didn't have the correct safety caps and were told to pack them up anyway. I could be wrong on that point.
But should the pilots try a emergency landing right on the spot (on a road or flat terrain) instead of asking nearest airport ? because the situation was hopeless by then .
@@stephenp448
Yes 100% correct you are.
The safe action SHOULD have been:
Sabertech manager:
"Call the Oxygen Cylinder manufacturer & have them send proper DISPOSAL CLOSURE CAPS & SHIPPING CRATES so we may safely do our jobs".
Thats what wasn't done - and with tragic results.
@@jf5-mars334 Finding an area that's safe enough and gives a continuous stretch for landing probably just wasn't available in their sights.
This was a giant media deal when it happened. The owner of the company went on to own a other huge company. The way they ran their business was disgusting. The owner should have been banned for life from ever operating an airline again.
Imprisoned for Corporate Manslaughter, methinks.
Imprisoned period
The maintenance company had a big presence at PHX.
This is exactly what most USA politicians (conservatives and libertarians) push for; what they call free market capitalism. "Let the markets decide" is their rallying cry.
@@Ayeshteni This is one thing the Chinese government gets right. You kill employees or customers through negligence of any sort, and you go to jail or are executed. That's real responsibility.
I cannot imagine being in the passenger cabin - dying in a fire and in an airplane are two of my worst deaths...this was BOTH combined. Absolutely terrifying for everyone.
I had heard of this crash, seen it atleast twice on Air Crash Investigation, but never have I seen the cause and effect explained so simply and lucidly.... congratulations on another fantastic video!!!
Didn't it crash in the Everglades making it very difficult to investigate? IIRC investigators had to wade through water that was two foot deep and infested with alligators.
@@krashd Yep. I recall them not finding any bodies.
@@krashd yup I vividly remember the news stories on this crash 😥
@@stevenbarrett4110 Heh heh heh - alligators were hungry. They made this their 'barbique' ! 😬💀
They found bits and pieces of people but that's about it. It happened not too far from where I lived at the time. There was actually a picture of a mound of debris in the air just after it hit floating around the internet. I remembered one of fishermen that were close by saying it was the loudest thing he ever heard when it hit.
I was impressed by ATC person changing his mind and telling the copilot to stay on the same frequency, thus not adding to the cockpit’s workload. Not that it changed anything in the end, alas...
:-(
Also not requiring another controller to get briefed on an emergency situation with a very tight time line. Great decision.
@Cecily B'
I got the impression that the controller knew the situation was absolutely critical. If I was on duty I would have stayed with this flight until the ending whatever the outcome.
That’s mandatory whenever possible with an aircraft in Emergency, precisely to remove this task from the pilot. At least, as ATCo I was taught that way in Portugal. All other traffic may then be sent to a secondary frequency, in order to keep the primary frequency well clear.
But when pilot asked for nearest airport ATC just repeated direction to Miami I swear if it was me I'd just hit the brakes and point it to the greenest field on the horizon and hope for the best. Even then they still probably die but not in total vain.
Yes, so many of the ATC recordings in hindsight are like those less-than-helpful 9-1-1 operators, who are slow on the uptake. This guy did his job! If I am that pilot, however, with smoke at takeoff, and passengers seeing flames, I'm not waiting for ATC or any vectors! I'm down on the first wide road or Interstate Highway or football field! - j q t -
What's really shocking is, it wasn't poor maintenance that brought this Value Jet down. It's was its unstable and combustible cargo. What a sad loss, for a pilot that was born to fly.
And it was Oxygen Generators for your info that combusted and it didn’t help they were over the Florida Everglades. If you read Eastern Airlines 401 (Not due to a fire) most people die from either the impact or drowned in an Crocodile infested swampland. Likely most people died from Smoke inhalation, from the impact receiving blunt force trauma, drowned or eaten alive by crocodiles or dipping to having spill jet fuel in their eyes you know what I mean.
No human being is born to fly. Birds are born to fly
Their maintenance was shit though. Around that time ValuJet was having an emergency landing every few weeks.
@@jshepard152 so less than Southwest today then?
@@virginiaviola5097
That's a stupid suggestion. Southwest has a fantastic safety record. United and American have whole cemeteries full of dead passengers. Southwest has exactly one. In fifty years.
Nice graphics of the cargo compartment
Actually, DC-9's operated by ValuJet didn't use containers. Everything was loaded by hand.
@@Dick_Z_Normas Containers do not fit in the cramped cargo hold of any DC9/MD80. With the exemption of Airbus 319/320/321 narrow body (single aisle) jets only have bulk load cargo holds. I remember this accident as I started the ground crew course at Scandinavian Airlines at ARN 20th Mai 1996. Our instructors ment this accident was proving that the loadmaster jobb is important. I didn't and don't disagree.
I'm sure Best Buy is thrilled with that product placement. Lol
@@rd.2670 I wondered if anyone else noted that "ad". haha
@@davskol I worked around all types of aircraft in 40 years with USAirways, now American. The loadmaster's job is important, its true, although automation has reduced their responsibilities.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. As a pilot, dealing with a fire in the air is probably the highest thing on my "please, no." list.
-Pat
-3 Greens Aviation
I hear you. While I've seen positive outcomes for situations involving engine or tire fires I can't think of one offhand where the fire was inside the fuselage of an aircraft in flight and it worked out for passengers and crew....
No one cares :P
@@GoldenMushroom64 You must care if you went out of your way to comment
@@jje984 yeah, you basically get two options: you either get cooked alive or crash in a split second but thing is...you don't get to choose because you always crash first.
I guess you can only hope to black out due to smoke inhalation or something before you hit the ground, I don't know..
Those of us who have flown Tower Air (AKA Terror Air) can imagine how bad ValuJet had to be to not get a government contract.
The answer is atrocious. ValuJet/AirTran was highly well... suspect.
I flew Tower Air back from Saudi Arabia in 1991.
We were a Battalion of Marines. Landed in Shannon Ireland, New York, then March AFB.
$11M in damages/fines and no criminal prosecution? Several SabreTech employees and executives should have gone to prison for life. They clearly cut corners intentionally and murdered 110 people. SMDH.
Welcome to America.
I had smoke in the cockpit on a night flight into Vegas. There's a sudden moment, after you smell the burning copper and switches stop working, when you think "I should just B-Line for the nearest flat patch of dirt." Only in my case it was pitch dark like flying in a closet with the lights out.
Absolutely terrifying experience. Wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. I'm sorry this crew had to endure it to the end.
Any airline that includes the word “value”, “econo” or “cheapo” in their name, I’ll avoid at all costs!
Fire caused by *GROUND WORKERS*
With hyperloop possibly becoming a thing in the future; Imagine if other companies came up with cheapo versions of said technology.
@@yoohyeonslostwig69 I mean the aircraft had a history of reliability issues but ok.
“Lion” too
"Ryan" as well (no offense)
Melting of the electronics doomed it. This tragedy shouldn't ever happened.
Flight 592 crashed into the Everglades only a few miles from where Eastern Airlines 401 crashed in 1972
Eastern Flight 401 was the second of three airline crashes in the Everglades. The first one was Northwest Orient Flight 705. On February 12, 1963, Flight 705 crashed 15 minutes after takeoff from Miami. The plane went out of control in severe turbulence, and disintegrated.
A personal note: My parents knew the parents of Mary Susan Sandell, one of the five stewardesses killed in the crash. (The crew was based in Minneapolis. I was eight years old and in the third grade at the time.) Mary Sandell is buried in Lakewood Cemetery in Minneapolis:
www.findagrave.com/memorial/38873959/mary-susan-sandell
I didn't live too far from the Everglades when this happened. It was all over the news. Locals reported seeing a mushroom cloud made out of mud that looked like an atomic bomb went off. They had crews of hundreds of people poking the mud with sticks looking for the black box. Through alligators and snakes, one guy said that he prayed to God that he would find it and immediately felt a click in the ground, and it was the black box. I remember seeing that on the news and his interview. Praise God. Rest in peace you good people
I can't watch this video beyond the first few seconds. My good friend was a pilot with ValueJet when this happened. He was friends with the pilots and was really broken up over this. Hearing his pain left a scar with me.
What a complete & utter nightmare, everyone on this plane was suffocating from thick smoke, burning from the fire & then crashed! This airline should've had someone inspect what was going into the cargo area of this plane, making sure it was safe.
You can't trust what anyone tells you! You need to check things out for yourself!
My heart goes out to all the poor souls on this flight & all families who lost their loved ones. R.I.P.
Never get on a plane with the word VALUE on it
Why y'all blaming the airline when the ground workers we're the one who caused it
@@yoohyeonslostwig69 mhmm
@@yoohyeonslostwig69 it's a joke. Lighten up.
@@Hollypenopepper lighten up like the fire onboard?
@@yoohyeonslostwig69 because who contracted the questionable third party company Sabretech? Valujet.
I feel like I shouldn't watch this, since I have a flight in 2 days. But great video! Thank you TFC.
Safe travels. I completely understand. I do the same thing. I have watched them sitting at the airport waiting to board a plane! 🤦♀️
You're safer up there than down here.
This was a freak accident that will never happen again.
It's safer to fly than ride in a car. So they say. Just don't watch one of these videos at the airport with no ear buds and maximum volume. Lol
I follow @74gear also. He's a pilot and his videos make me feel much better about flying. Maybe that would help you too?
@@FelisThis Exactly. It could be considered a disturbance, might get you thrown out of the terminal.
Someone ought to still be in jail for this accident.
Another fantastic video. I’ve seen multiple documentaries on this including Air Crash Investigation but the cgi just blows them out of the water. A terrible tragedy that could have so easily been avoided. God bless their souls 🙁🙁🙁
Hi Caroline, this is a game called flight simulator. You can download it on your computer and play it.
@@killout18 is it available for mobile?
@@impactzone269 no your phone would exode trying to play flight sim
I have seen a fair number of stories and reports on this event. I can not ever say enough about how well TFC depicts these events! The care and detail without the "fluff" of commercial reporting is amazing! So detailed, in a way I can truly appreciate. You do great videos TFC, Thanks! I thought I knew everything there was to know about this event, but I learn so so much!
This one is so so sad and so chilling. Those poor passengers burning in a smoke filled cabin with a raging, oxygen fueled fire melting through the floor. I have always felt so awful about this crash and so enraged at the carelessness and irresponsibility that led to it.
It's terrible. The heat and smoke overcame the pilots in the cockpit before they crashed, which means the people in the cabin had already been killed at that point.
@@KrK007 At one point on the CVR just before the fatal plunge, a flight attendant screamed into the cockpit "Completely on Fire!". One thing not mentioned here that was in the NTSB report was the CVR recorded what sounded like rushing air after ATC lost communications with Critter 592. They speculated one of the pilots opened a cockpit window in a desperate attempt to clear the flight deck of smoke. Just horrible.
Great graphics. I felt like I was right there in the cockpit. The Captain did everything she could before losing controls and maybe consciousness. I applaud her efforts. This was a horrible accident that could have been prevented. RIP, all passengers and crew.
This just shows how fast the situation became dire. The aircraft was only a few miles out, and the fire crippled it so fast, even the crew couldn't get it back to the airport.
I was a courier in Fort Lauderdale when that plane went down in the everglades. We shuttled so much equipment out there to be loaded onto airboats and hauled out there. The stench of aviation fuel was thick in the air for days after that crash.
They were using the big tourist airboats that hold about 30 people to haul debris and human remains because of the location of the crash site.
If you ever go on vacation to FL and go to Holiday Park for an airboat ride, they had one airboat with a painted design on it as a tribute to those that were recovered with that airboat. Very surreal. Not sure if that boat is still being used today, but as of 2012, it was still there when I moved away.
Mauro Ociel Valenzuela-Reyes was one of the SabreTech mechanic contractors who was apparently responsible for loading those "Empty" oxygen canister packages in the cargo hold of Flight 592 without putting the safety caps on them. After the accident, he failed to show up on trial and as a result, he is wanted by the FBI but was never caught to this day.
There’s still a warrant out for his arrest. Rumored to be in his native Brazil
Riding Valu-Jet is about as obvious as walking up a set of stairs with a sign that reads, "Built by Rickety Constukshon Company."
I started my career in September of 1998 at Delta Airlines, installing fire suppression systems in the cargo holds of MD-88's, MD-90's and 727's. I remember it like it was yesterday! This accident was the stuff of nightmares...but lots of wonderful, much needed changes came out of this accident. Just so sad that so many innocent people had to foot the bill. Continued Godspeed to all of the souls on board that day.
I never really knew the full details about the oxy containers on the ValuJet crash so thank you for this episode.
I appreciate this channel it is the most informative out there. It is interesting to search the same flights and see other dramas / reports they're never nearly as detailed.
I've been watching this channel for a long time and never cried before. This was senseless. 💔
One of saddest crashes, and they’re all sad
I remember this tragedy as if it was yesterday. I was at the Trail Glades shooting range, shooting skeet with friends. I remember scores and scores of emergency vehicles blaring sirens and speeding down Tamiami Trail headed for the glades, we knew right away something terrible had happened, we did not see any smoke plume. When I got home and turned the TV on it was a horrific sight, they said they barely found parts of the plane as the angle and speed made it slip right into the mushy, wet bog of the Everglades, it was unreal and depressing. I still can't forget. Such a senseless and preventable tragedy.
What makes fire so dangerous on an airplane is how crazy easy it is to melt Aluminum. People assume airplanes are fireproof because the are made of metal but Aluminum's ability to resist fire isn't much better than wood and it is worse than some hard plastics.
What makes fire so dangerous on an airplane is the many toxic substances used in construction. The skin of the plane is the least of your worries as you'd be dead from toxic fumes long before the integrity of the plane is compromised. Aluminium is however the reason why certain reactive metals like Gallium and Magnesium are not allowed anywhere near planes.
Sabretech had zero safety procedures in place, and were lazy and dangerous..ValueJet had on gate on the C concourse at IAD, where UA had a big base. We would chat with them on the way to our flights. Honestly, I have never seen such a group of enthusiastic employees, even tho they were getting paid next to nothing. The day of the incident was devastating to all of us. Then the truth about Sabretech was revealed. Couldn't get any worse. Fly high with the angels, all of you. We never forgot you.
I can only imagine how you must have felt and still feel. It's so sad that this could have been avoided, but for SebreTech's gross negligence.
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When the American TV show COPS visited Miami during the time this crash happened, one of the calls was this crash.
I was still living in South Florida when this happened. It was all over the news for days. Those poor souls never stood a chance of surviving thanks to Sabre Tech and the extreme cost cutting measures of ValuJet. The Pilots were doing their best to get that plane back to the airport but unfortunately everything was against them and time ran out. I can't imagine the suffering and terror everyone was enduring. I remember seeing a lot of footage on television of the crash and the efforts to try and recover the victims remains from the bottom of the Florida Everglades. The footage of the crash was so heartbreaking to see. Thank you Flight Channel for bringing this to us. Rest in Peace beautiful souls.
So sad. Once it said the pilots were incapacitated, I knew it was over. 😔 RIP
Thank you for giving us so much information. My heart goes out to the 110 people who died on this tragic day.
That was a near tailstrike on rotation there.
Rip to the people who died
I noticed that too!
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Computer animation.....
Rip to the people who survived too. Because they're also dead.
@@johnfranklin5277 nope it's a simulator...
My God, those poor souls on board never even had a chance. I guess it was called ValuJet for a reason.
RIP to all who perished on that plane 🙏🏻
I'm going from Southern Indiana to Denver later this year------in my Lexus.
I was supposed to be on that flight, and had purchased my ticket a month in advance to save some cash. At the last minute, only a few days before the flight, my plans changed, and the airline refused to refund my ticket price even though they were still able to resell my seat. I was furious, and told the ticket agent that "I would never fly with them again", and went about my business. A few days later, when I saw the crash on TV, I checked my ticket and realized that I had just "won the lottery of life" by not being on that plane. I still have that ticket in my scrapbook, and not only did I live up to my promise to never fly with that airline again, I haven't gotten on ANY airline since, and won't.
You're blessed, friend.
In 1988 an American Airlines Md-83 had a cargo hold fire while on approach into Nashville, but the crew managed to safely land the plane and save the lives of all onboard. Following this, the NTSB recommended that all planes be equipped with fire detection and/or fire suppression systems in the cargo holds, however, the FAA never implemented this. After the ValuJet crash the NTSB re-recommend this, and the Administrator of the FAA and the Secretary of Transportation were both fired as a result.
I remember this accident. I thought it was tragic at the time but I don't remember hearing just how terrible this short flight must have been for the passengers and crew. This was so much worse than I ever knew. Thank you for the fuller picture of this accident.
The airtight cargo hold reminds me of the bulkhead doors on the Titanic. A wise man once said: "Foolproof systems fail to take into account the ingenuity of fools"
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We went to Hawaii using Air Tran (previously known as ValuJet) back in 1999 I think. On the way there, after flying for an hour it had some engine problem so it dumped most of the fuel and returned to LA. And on the way back, after we boarded the plane we had to wait for the longest time and I heard they had to call a mechanic because the engine wouldn't start.
I remember this one vividly..... it was a huge deal for obvious reasons and it got plenty of exposure in Southern California, specifically San Diego as Rodney Culver was on this flight, he was a running back for the San Diego Chargers.
The Flight attendant that was in that flight switched with a Guy who worked for VauleJet I knew from Boston that wanted to have Mother’s Day weekend off ( edited for clarity)
Wow it's extremely sad that this flight was totally doomed. Smoke incapacitating the pilots, total loss of aircraft control and the fire out of control.
"Totally doomed" reminds me of the Helios 522 flight - completely different situation, and absolutely nothing could be done there, either.
I remember this accident from when I was a kid.
Really appreciate the way these videos are respectfully produced with regards to those who didn't survive.
I remember being at work.and hearing on the radio about a plane crashing into the Florida Everglades. It was terrifying and chilling...watching this re-creation brought me back to that day. RIP to the victims of flight 592.
Here first just for the efforts you put in this for us
I remember this and I found it to be extra freighting that the whole plane was completely gone in the swamp. Just a horrific way to go. I hope everyone on board was unconscious before it hit the ground.
Thanks for having this on youtube. All those people are gone nothing can bring them back. May all Rest In Peace 🙏
Years ago my Dad was flying a DC-9 when some idiot decided to smoke and set a fire in the bathroom.
Thankfully he was able to land prior to a full disaster.
If he landed the aircraft 5 minutes later, all would have been dead.
Scary shit.
Can you tell me what airline that is and if you still remember the registration of the plane?
@@clydelabios344 I'm trying to find out more info for you. My dad only spoke about it when I was a kid.
I know it was Air Canada, my Dad was 20 so it was around 1980. I believe it happened in Montreal.
I'll keep digging for info.
Cheers.
@@shadowknows5750 Flight 797 fits that description. Registered as C-FTLU, 2 June 1983. 23 of 41 passengers died, the captain was the last to exit the aircraft.
Was enroute to Montreal and made its emergency landing in Cincinnati.
Official cause is listed as an electrical fire in the aft lavatory.
If the plane had taxi’d just a couple minutes longer, or been held up… the smoke would have been noticeable while still on the ground. Ugh.
My favorite channel for crash investigations! Who else?
Me me 😀
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You're just fishing for likes.
@@martinc.720 Indeed, thanks for improving my recommendation by commenting.
@@jetblast5902 No worries. It'll just show more people how desperate you are.
Glad I flew home from Miami this past Saturday, before seeing this video. So scary, but very well-done per usual, TFC!
Your videos are awesome, and you’ve added some scenes like that fire in cargo compartment… that was really cool. Excellent work.
I still remember the day that this happened. It was on all news channels and was absolutely horrifying. I remember it nose dived straight into the Everglades, leaving a huge hole in the ground upon impact. This crash stands out in my mind above all others. It was so damned unnecessary.
“Aggressive cost cutting measures”. In other words, doing it on the cheap. If there’s one industry you don’t compromise safety on, it’s commercial aviation. Not sure how the airline’s board were not individually prosecuted either.
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R.I.P. to former NFL running back Rodney Culver and his wife. 🙏🏈 (Chargers, Colts).
Other passengers: am I a joke to you
Yeah, fuck the other 108 souls, eh?
I was born and raised in San Diego, California and remember this crash very well! I met Rodney Culver on a handful of occasions at Chargers’ practices and he was always very nice to the fans. This was a very sad day for he and everyone else on that plane, along with all of their loved ones who lost someone who they knew, loved and cared for!
Very tragic that the fire didn't start when the cargo was still outside the plane
One of the few times when a takeoff delay was desirable.
Another masterpiece from TFC 🔥👏🛩
You really do a wonderful job on your videos…which is why I continue to watch them!
Terrifying and tragic video. Amazed by the quality and editing as always. Beautiful work.
This one is especially rough, because not even due to pilot incompetence or error... it literally was completely out of their hands.
Another awesome video! Keep up the good work!
A sad story indeed . . . we appreciate your efforts in helping us understand the faults and imperfections in our travel industry. Thanks from Bob
Dude ! you're a Friggin Genius ! The way you put the whole thing together !
I remember this day so well. It was Mother's Day, and I was having my mother and a friend's mother over for a celebratory luncheon. I had the radio on, and they broke into their music selection, saying that a jet had gone down. I thought of all the people on there who were mothers, and it made me very sad for the people who lost their moms in that crash.
I went to the memorial in the everglades it was very nice and quiet for a gator filled swamp, it was very sad what happend who knows maybe everyone would have survived if the aircraft was on the ground for 30 more seconds saw on the news that their are still looking for the mechanic that put the oxygen tanks in the planes belly he probably bailed to Cuba. It crashed in a reservation and the natives said that they landed in a sacred part of land and that they are resting peacefully
The natives lied to you. Only believing on Christ for the forgiveness of sin will save you from the flames of hell. Anyone who decided to reject that free gift of eternal life by choosing to not believe the bible and to not believe on the only begotten son of God, those people made their choice and are now paying for their own sin themselves.
@@killout18 unnecessary.
They are with God and doing heavenly deeds as saints in Heaven.
More likely Chile or Mexico
I last visited in 2015. I had to do extensive cleaning of the grounds around the parking area and the memorial. I hope it is in better shape now.
Your videos are wonderfully put together. So tragic yet so informative.
Great content, thanks for your work guys.