Thank you so much! Fantastic job! Gram is such a large figure in my music life. Being a Georgia boy myself I grew up on radio country in the 80s and early 90s. To which I swapped for rock n roll through my teen/young adult years like many. I went through a heavy stones faze which is out how i discovered Gram. Which brought me full circle back to country music but in the most incredible ways through Gram I've discovered so many Artists who was a influence or influenced by Gram..even though Gram wasn't a hit on the radio he's held very very in high regards to musicians everywhere. The question is asked all the time What would have Gram if he had lived? Well I truly feel he'd eventually became a big success think the Willie Waylon outlaw movement or The Eagles watered down version of what Gram was doing. But am so glad we got what we got, the man oozes what's great about music. Cheers to you Gram and thanks for everything.
GRIEVOUS ANGEL, thank you for being there, if for only 27 years. Thank you for your music. Thank you for the Byrds and the Flying Burrito Brothers. Thank you for Emmyloy. Special thanks to you for keeping the Stones alive and together. And most of all, thank you for kick-starting the Americana. RIP, Angel❤ Your European fan for life.
That was outstanding. I knew a lot about Gram, but I learned so much, and filled in many missing pieces. I wonder so often what he would have done if he had lived. He practically invented the country rock genre. What would his further influence have been on the Stones, on Emmylou Harris, on the Bakersfield sound. He could have continued to reshape country and rock music. You know he went too far on the drugs when Keith Richards complains that he didn't take good enough care of himself. Anyway, thank you so much for producing this video. I really enjoyed it. Now I'll probably spend the rest of the night listening to Gram music. 8^)
I am so glad you enjoyed it. I have to admit I learned a lot doing it. I think Gram's problem and the reason for his drug use was that he had a clear vision of what he wanted to create but unfortunately it wasn't shared by many. Look at the groups that came after him. Lynard Skinner and the eagles. He created southern rock as well as country rock.
@@CMSProductions I agree that his lack of immediate success hurt him, and he was a sensitive guy, but his sad childhood damaged his ability to deal with the difficulties of life. Too much stress and pain. Emmylou Harris called him a sweet and loving soul.
Thanks for all the effort that went into this. I already knew a lot about Gram and now I know more. You are forgiven for mispronouncing a couple of names.
incorrect pronounciations aside this was very well researched and done and i learned a lot. amazing a rich kid substance abuser like parsons put any effort at all into anything so for that we should be grateful. also dying young and leaving a pretty face as they say also helps his legend. thanks again for your work on this!
Meesalikeu, I love the Star War reference in your name. I agree with you whole heartedly about the pronunciations. I could have done a better job and I have tried to do a better job since then. I am glad that you enjoyed the video. I work hard on these videos and try to be as fair to the artist as I can.
@@CMSProductions he is one of my favorite musicians. I listened to burritos as a kid on my dad record player so much the wax melted away. Knew a lot of information about once he became successful. Your video really filled in a lot for me. It was as if I was taken to a dance floor of how he became that person in all his beaded costumed glory. I have seen a few interviews with miss Harris speaking about him as well. Really lost a voice with magic quality with his passing. Definitely going to recommend this for anyone wanting more than grand theft parsons.
Any friend of Keith's is a friend of mine. Let me please introduce Keith, he's the man of wealth and taste... Still,he Grievous Angel was a giant in his own right, Keith or no Keith.
💙🙏💙 Thank You 💙🙏💙 PS: it’s not “a loving family” when your parents are alcoholics and as a child you have to worry about them. Then suicide. I speak from experience - it took me 40 years to get over death(s) in my family. I have A LOT of compassion for him. If he’s cycled back into this world, I wonder who he might be now? Just wondering ...💙🙏💙🙋♀️PS: the more we learn how much the industry cheated lots of musicians the sadder it gets🌹R.I.P. GramParsons🌹
@Maija Liepa. I know what you mean in more ways than what I will express here. I am glad you enjoyed tIf you have any suggestions please let me know. Please subscribe if you haven't already and if you have thank you very much.
@@CMSProductions 🙋♀️ found you by someone’s suggestion! Yes, subscribed! Thank you for your efforts here.... watched Nanci Griffin information also RIP Nanci Gram John - singin’ together and Dancing 💙🙏💙
@@CMSProductions If possible to edit the narration, the pronunciation of "McGuinn" could be corrected from "Magewin" to "McGwinn", otherwise this is terrific! Also Bernie Leadon is pronounced "Ledden" not Leed-on.
Thanks for this, you are great at bringing deep stories out into the open. Do you know of Lattie Moore? I feel he was the real link between straight country, rockabilly, and country rock of the 60s.
I have checked into him. You may be right. Even though he never had much success, other than regionally. He did work with some people that went onto to be major stars . Those that come to mind are Johnny Cash and George Jones. The latter in which he wrote a song with. I will do more research.
While Dave McGowan’s Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon : Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops & The Dark Heart of the Hippie Dream, indubitably follows this approach, its focus is utterly unique. Not to put too fine a point on it, the book is no less than the Official Classic Rock Conspiracy Theory, with individual chapters tackling the unlikely subjects of Frank Zappa, the Doors, Love, the Beach Boys, the Byrds, Gram Parsons and more, the careers of which are scrutinized for the fingerprints of the secret state.
I was aware of Gram's music in general but wasn't aware Country Music had a spell over "Hickory Wind" and listening to it I can't tell, what am I missing?
@@CMSProductions Hi Spotlight TV! You have a lot of interesting details about Gram. I think that I SAW Gram Parsons, but I'm not sure, in Spring 1972, at Case Western Reserve University, in Cleveland, Ohio. The university had a free concert, and I don't remember the name of the band. But I do remember my surprise, at seein' a bunch of hippies, with a pedal steel, singin', "We don't smoke marijuana in Muskogee..." How many hippie bands did that??? I LOVED that pedal steel sound, and was very impressed with the concert. For a while, up through about 1962, Cleveland, Ohio, had ONE and ONLY ONE Country Music venue, called the "Denison Square Theater" (by W 25th and Denison, up the hill from the Zoo, torn down by 1962). My Dad took me to see some legendary performers there, including Ernest Tubb, Little Jimmy Dickens, Kitty Wells with Johnny and Jack, Stonewall Jackson, Flatt and Scruggs, and Wilma Lee and Stoney Cooper. THE Country Music Record Store in Cleveland, was "Tommy Edwards Record Heaven", whose FIRST location (of many later), was right across the street from the Denison Square Theater. My Dad bought me a 45rpm, and I had Stonewall Jackson sign it ("16 Fathoms/30 Links of Chain", long gone by now). As a teen I listened to the "Top 40", but returned to Country Music, in my early 20's. Like Gram, Merle got me with "Bottle Let Me Down". LOVE that Pedal Steel sound. I play some Old-time Fiddle, and I liked your Old-time Fiddle backup music. Rock
@Rock Reynolds for me it was my mom that got me to listen to country music. I loved it but as a teenager I rebelled and began to listen to heavy metal and rock. Then in my thirties I switched to outlaw country. with Willie, Waylon and the boys. No i listen to mostly classic country.
@@CMSProductions Hi Spotlight! You know, Classical Music really took off, back when Bach was writin' stuff, and I really enjoy lots of the EARLY "Classical Music". But any Classical Music written since Mozart and Beethoven, sucks. Conversely, I have been very intrigued by the "evolution" of AMERICAN "Honky Tonk Music", which has really evolved over the last 80 years. Starting with Hank Sr, Hank wasn't allowed to use drums (He was "lucky" to be allowed to use electric instruments, by Opry standards), and Helms did a fantastic job on the steel, but the steel didn't have any pedals then. Jerry Rivers was limited to "double-stops only" on the fiddle. Hank almost never sang with a "harmony partner" (I heard some "Gospel" by Hank, NOT as "Luke the Drifter", in which Hank did sing with a female harmonist.). Right after Hank Sr. died (3 weeks after I was born), pedals appeared on the steel. Hank's protege, Ray Price, in addition to having pedals on the steel, made some modifications to "Honky Tonk", by singing HARMONIES, and by allowing the fiddle to play "single stop", which sounds way cool. (Ray Price was a victim of the tragedy, known as "Countrypolitan", in 1961.) THEN, Buck Owens took the "Ray Price" sound, and shifted the emphasis from "fiddle/pedal steel", to "pedal steel/fiddle". Buck Owens had the additional advantage, that producers allowed Buck (mostly Don Rich), to play like they wanted to play. Meanwhile, Clarence White and Doc Watson, turned the flattop, into a LEAD instrument, with flat-picking, and Leo Fender inundated the Music Scene, with solid body electric guitars. THEN, Clarence White added string-bending to the Telecaster. Spotlight, if you haven' seen the following video, about Gene Parsons drilling a hole in Clarence White's Telecaster, it's worth a look (Marty Stuart owns that guitar now.). ruclips.net/video/zxQhbvke44I/видео.html Here's my point. America is sitting on a POWDER KEG of Music, Music that one does NOT hear, on "American Idol" or "America's Got Talent". American Music ROCKS, and it is STILL IMPROVING. I think it's gonna "bust out", and it's interesting to know the History, like your channel provides. Rock
The picture that you are questioning is a a picture of Moe Olsten who signed Gram Parson's to Reprise records. He is shown with Fleetwood Mac. At no point did we say that Gram Parson's was part of Fleetwood Mac. We are sorry for the confusion.
@@CMSProductions Thanks for your sombre reply. I tend towards mockery, but didn't intend any disrespect for the thorough work you folks did putting together such a documentary on the great but troubled Gram Parsons. I learned things I hadn't known before. I appreciate your getting back to me! Take care!-JEZEBEL
I looked him up after seeing a picture of him, could hardly believe he had passed in 1973! He was so good looking! His abuse of booze and whatever drugs he used did not show in his face at all. Alot of peoples lives of drugs etc show on them. Ah well..
@@roslynnmemme8634 He got in with the wrong rock and roll crowd. For one thing, he was BFF with Keith Richards! Knowing what Keith looks like now, I shudder to think that Gram would have turned out the same way had he lived. You know what they say--"live fast, die young, and leave a good looking corpse"!
He is very striking and I was surprised he was country .. but then I watched the video and it makes more sense he was leaning more into rock. That is the look he had
@@karmasutra4774 I wasn't too surprised by his non-country looks (the "rhinetones" he wore sorta made up for it). Nick Lowe dabbled in country, too, but then--he was Johnny Cash's son-in-law
Some of CM's music was good. I have no doubt that within the circle that both CM and GP traveled in that their paths had to cross at some point. I have no doubt that with GP personality that even if they were best buds that CM would not have had much influence on GP. Agian I thank you for watching the video
Kevin, thank you for you kind and insightful words. I thought about subscribing to your channel but decided that since you have not been willing to put yourself out there for either people to like or not like I would wait.
Although I like the narrator's rough-hewn voice, he really shoulda been coached in the pronunciation of proper nouns. He consistently pronounces Roger McGuinn's last name as "mick-goo-in." I didn't even know who he was talking about the first couple of mentions. He pronounces Houston Street (pronounced "how-stun") in lower Manhattan to sound like Houston, the city in Texas. And as I was writing this comment, I heard him pronounce "psilocybin" as "sil-o-bin."
But he found Emmylou for Gram, and singing with her made him happy. Chris said he thought of it like a manager would; right height, same hair, and both had innocent faces.
Gram Parsons is portrayed as some kind of country music savant. In reality he got started doing folk music. People like Bob Buchanan, who co-wrote 'Hickory Wind', got Gram interested in country music. Gram lucked into a gig with The Byrds, who had already dabbled in country music and made country flavored recordings (e.g., Mr. Spaceman) several years prior to his hiring. He was a talented songwriter and decent singer who helped re-energize The Byrds, but he also tried to take over the band, which didn't sit well with Hillman & McGuinn. Then he bailed on the eve of the South African tour. His increasing intake of alcohol and drugs got him fired from the Burritos and ultimately cost him his life.
Gram was a good performer but not great. I was there when country music tried to merge with rock. It did not really work but country began to be very popular again. Gram RIP had he lived, he may have developed his style further.
His first country influenced band The International Submarine Band was started at Harvard with Bob Nuese - a Yankee who suggested they go the Country route. He was singing/writing folk in the coffee houses of Cambridge, MA.
Twas a long time of go,()/_-& very good music when I heard it first; time has changed, but de wind nevr will!!!🏜️✝️⭐ Thank you 4 de story, may god bless all who have njoyd:☮️🐬🐯amen
Bernie Leadon has had his name mis pronounced so many time he was asked what’s the correct way to pronounce his name.His answer was he really didn’t care . Just spell it correctly on the check.
I love Gram but he never the Stones let him record it a year before them cause they knew it wouldn't be a hit by him. Jagger and Richards wrote it. They wrote dead flowers, far away eyes, and sweet Virginia they wrote a few country songs back then. He certainly influenced them with country.
Not true. Wild Horses was written by Mick & Keef, mostly by Keef. They let the Grevious Angel record it before the Stones did. Sticky Fingers, remember?
@@CMSProductions All my life I've worked with copy editors and producers who point out mistakes. I thank them because they make my work better and make me look good. Being petulant when a mistake is pointed out is the opposite of being professional. Good luck.
@Dan DePrez I understand that but because of how old the video is and how many views the video has gotten and is still getting I hear about those mistake, and there were quite a few, i hear about it constantly. I figured by now people would realize that I know about my mistakes. I do thank you for pointing it out but you are in a list of 100s. I do apologies for being "petulant" as you say. It struck me as being a rude way to let me know what you thought. I wish you only the best and may you be blessed in life.
@@CMSProductions props for coming back and answering your thread. Also, I don't believe you made this for fame and fortune so folks can get over it lol
@@elizabethheyenga9277 You got that right. When I made that video i was just starting to make videos. The mistake I made was using my own voice. As far as fame and fortune goes, I make these videos to try and tell the story of these artist and what they went through to bring their art to use and how much like us they are. Fame i don't want. Fortune, well lets say I live a comfortable life for an old country boy. Earned but not from RUclips.
Ed. Thank you for your thoughtful comment. I am working on doing a better job in all area's of the videos that I create, including pronouncing names. I again thank you for your comment.
@@CMSProductions I am specifically referring to- Rodger McGuinn, and Bernie Leadon. These are two VERY big names and not getting them right really puts a bad mark on what is actually quite a nice video!
Though this is somewhat informative, the narrator repeatedly mispronounces people's names as well as places. One should do their homework before presenting information like this.
I apologies for the mistakes in the video. It is comforting to know that there are people in the world who don't make mistakes and have the time to point out other peoples. I wonder what the world would be like if there were more people like that.
It was a southern accent gone wrong or it could have been I was nervous because this was one of the first videos I had done. But at any rate I fired myself and I have apologized every day since posting the video. I hope this meets with your pleasure. As we say in the south Bless your little heart.
@Jay Touvelle It wasn't that you were to critical. It is just everyday several people send me similar text. my skin is to thick to let it bother me. it does however get old over time. I do appreciate you watching the video and I hope you will watch others. I try to answer each and every messages i received. It is my way of showing appreciation. Thank you again for watching the video and may God bless you and yours. Thanks, David
I got 10 minutes through this b4 I couldn't take any more if this narrators voice..guy sounds like he has a cold and his nose is stuffed up..annoying Af
Really?? He had a sweet voice yes, but was no prolific songwriter, or of any note really, another singer who's early death and legend being bigger than his ability(in context, yes he had ability, but his early death meant immortality and less facts about his limitations as a songwriter, gene clark was greater in every respect, but this guy gets more kudos, as in inventing country rock and cosmic rock, which he didn't, gene did it before him, sorry, gram was good, but not THAT good!
@@CMSProductions wow, touchy arn't we🤔I didn't say gram had no talent, he did, I'm putting things in perspective,he was totally country to me, more than true Americana and cosmic, he gets all the accolades, while gene clark often gets left behind, gene was a true cosmic cowboy, and songwriting genius, gram wasn't a genius songwriter, he wasn't, but what he was, I do like, but he was nothing more, his early death magnified him more, like it did with Jimmy Dean, who I think was a totally overrated actor, gram isn't overrated, he was very good at what he did, his influence and substance in what he did I feel is overestimated, sorry, didn't mean to offend🙏
Its lazy to throw "loving family" money at a him. Much harder to participate in loving a child. Imagine what his life could have been with genuine love. He was a true visionary.
I learned about this artist, had no idea who he was. But your voice narration is soothing. You could read bed time stories for those of us that need extra help
he was an amazing musician i love his stuff i am just 15
I agree. Thanks for watching.
Now go listen to the Byrds 'Sweethearts of the Rodeo' young man.
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May you forever rest in peace you never found in this world, Griveous Angel
Amen and Amen 🙏🤠
Resting in peace can get old after a while. Hence, the resurrection. Time to get up and get it on again! 👍
@@CMSProductionsthis is the dumbest AI pile of shite ever heard; all ye gotta do is listen to Gram❤️
@@arthurbergmann8219 Mcgooin here. How dare you!🤣
Thank you so much! Fantastic job!
Gram is such a large figure in my music life. Being a Georgia boy myself I grew up on radio country in the 80s and early 90s. To which I swapped for rock n roll through my teen/young adult years like many.
I went through a heavy stones faze which is out how i discovered Gram.
Which brought me full circle back to country music but in the most incredible ways through Gram I've discovered so many Artists who was a influence or influenced by Gram..even though Gram wasn't a hit on the radio he's held very very in high regards to musicians everywhere.
The question is asked all the time What would have Gram if he had lived?
Well I truly feel he'd eventually became a big success think the Willie Waylon outlaw movement or The Eagles watered down version of what Gram was doing.
But am so glad we got what we got, the man oozes what's great about music.
Cheers to you Gram and thanks for everything.
Amen and I am glad you enjoyed the video
i became a parsons fan over 50 years ago and i still love his stuff. rip gram.
Amen and Amen
Gram was on my hall at The Bolles School in 1965. He was a senior and I was a sophomore.
Sweet
GRIEVOUS ANGEL, thank you for being there, if for only 27 years. Thank you for your music. Thank you for the Byrds and the Flying Burrito Brothers. Thank you for Emmyloy.
Special thanks to you for keeping the Stones alive and together.
And most of all, thank you for kick-starting the Americana.
RIP, Angel❤
Your European fan for life.
Amen
So far ahead of his time, he joined Club 27 at 26
Good watch and listen. Cant get enough of Gram especially when he played with Emmy Lou.
I know Gram would be proud of what Emmy Lou has accomplished with her career. Gram was truly the man ahead of his time.
EmmyLou's voice is that of an angel
@@adambedard8641 I agree. I will have an upcoming video on her.
Gram’s Dad like many WWII combat veteran , suffered from undiagnosed PTSD , they self medicated with alcohol
Amen and Amen on that my friend. It is also not talked enough about. I love that you brought it up.
yes thx for mentioning that no doubt it played its part - but seems like substance abuse and depression ran in the family. its a shame.
@@meesalikeu Yes both.
One of the highest Mortality rates of any position in the Armed Forces in WWII was flying on an Aircraft Bomber.
this was interesting to watch wow what a life he led 😮😊
We are glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching 🤠
That was outstanding. I knew a lot about Gram, but I learned so much, and filled in many missing pieces. I wonder so often what he would have done if he had lived. He practically invented the country rock genre. What would his further influence have been on the Stones, on Emmylou Harris, on the Bakersfield sound. He could have continued to reshape country and rock music. You know he went too far on the drugs when Keith Richards complains that he didn't take good enough care of himself. Anyway, thank you so much for producing this video. I really enjoyed it. Now I'll probably spend the rest of the night listening to Gram music. 8^)
I am so glad you enjoyed it. I have to admit I learned a lot doing it. I think Gram's problem and the reason for his drug use was that he had a clear vision of what he wanted to create but unfortunately it wasn't shared by many. Look at the groups that came after him. Lynard Skinner and the eagles. He created southern rock as well as country rock.
@@CMSProductions I agree that his lack of immediate success hurt him, and he was a sensitive guy, but his sad childhood damaged his ability to deal with the difficulties of life. Too much stress and pain. Emmylou Harris called him a sweet and loving soul.
Good documentary, but why is there someone doing voiceover who can’t pronounce McGuinn’s name and thinks there’s a drug called “silibin”?
@@CMSProductions Saying southern rock is like saying rock rock. For rock is southern.✌️
I have always felt sorry for young people who had very good voices and got lost in the war of drugs to achieve those euphoric feelings.
I can understand that. Too many died young.
I think Gram was trying to escape the tragedies of his childhood.
Ya think?
Gram wasn’t really embraced by country music industry in his day, but Gram is 1000 times more country than these fools playing “country “ music today.
lol no comment
Nice job, man. I enjoyed it.
Thanks. I am glad you enjoyed it. I could have done a better job on the pronunciations. I'm working on that.
I don't know much about Gram Parsons. Great to find this!
I am glad you enjoyed it. Thank you for watching.
I learned to harmonize on Love Hurts. Doesn’t get any better
Sweet
You're right -- their voices were made for each other
Thank you! This was really well done 👍. New sub from Ottawa 🇨🇦
Thank you for watching and subscribing. It is much appreciated 🤠
Thanks for all the effort that went into this. I already knew a lot about Gram and now I know more. You are forgiven for mispronouncing a couple of names.
Thank you Jeff. I am glad you enjoyed the video.
So young but so brilliant.
I agree with you. he was ahead of his time.
Sure was ahead of his time 🎤🎶🎶🎸
That he was. Dennis thank you for watching. I greatly appreciate it.
incorrect pronounciations aside this was very well researched and done and i learned a lot. amazing a rich kid substance abuser like parsons put any effort at all into anything so for that we should be grateful. also dying young and leaving a pretty face as they say also helps his legend. thanks again for your work on this!
Meesalikeu, I love the Star War reference in your name. I agree with you whole heartedly about the pronunciations. I could have done a better job and I have tried to do a better job since then. I am glad that you enjoyed the video. I work hard on these videos and try to be as fair to the artist as I can.
As if practically every popular musician around that time wasn’t a substance abuser
Bowles school yes sir. Right across the bridge on the south side. Jacksonville born and raised. Been here for 49 years.
cool.
I lived in Jacksonville for forty years. Used to wade fish right behind Bolles.
Really enjoyed.
I am glad you liked it.
@@CMSProductions he is one of my favorite musicians. I listened to burritos as a kid on my dad record player so much the wax melted away. Knew a lot of information about once he became successful. Your video really filled in a lot for me. It was as if I was taken to a dance floor of how he became that person in all his beaded costumed glory. I have seen a few interviews with miss Harris speaking about him as well. Really lost a voice with magic quality with his passing. Definitely going to recommend this for anyone wanting more than grand theft parsons.
Thank you. That is the purpose of this channel. To remember the great ones.
Wow thanks for the upload
Thank you for watching it. I appreciate it.
This is crazy man! Good job! 🎸
Thanks, I am glad you liked it.
Keith’s best friend! Talent screams!
Talent screams Always!
Any friend of Keith's is a friend of mine. Let me please introduce Keith, he's the man of wealth and taste...
Still,he Grievous Angel was a giant in his own right, Keith or no Keith.
Hey, Roger McQuinn not McKuen. That's Rod Mckuen.
Thanks for the correction. I am glad you enjoyed the video.
💙🙏💙 Thank You 💙🙏💙 PS: it’s not “a loving family” when your parents are alcoholics and as a child you have to worry about them. Then suicide. I speak from experience - it took me 40 years to get over death(s) in my family. I have A LOT of compassion for him. If he’s cycled back into this world, I wonder who he might be now? Just wondering ...💙🙏💙🙋♀️PS: the more we learn how much the industry cheated lots of musicians the sadder it gets🌹R.I.P. GramParsons🌹
@Maija Liepa. I know what you mean in more ways than what I will express here. I am glad you enjoyed tIf you have any suggestions please let me know. Please subscribe if you haven't already and if you have thank you very much.
@@CMSProductions 🙋♀️ found you by someone’s suggestion! Yes, subscribed! Thank you for your efforts here.... watched Nanci Griffin information also RIP Nanci Gram John - singin’ together and Dancing 💙🙏💙
@@maijaliepa119 thank you.
@@CMSProductions If possible to edit the narration, the pronunciation of "McGuinn" could be corrected from "Magewin" to "McGwinn", otherwise this is terrific! Also Bernie Leadon is pronounced "Ledden" not Leed-on.
@@Peggy53 I will see what can be done. Thank you for the corrections. I am glad you enjoyed the video..
Thanks for this, you are great at bringing deep stories out into the open. Do you know of Lattie Moore? I feel he was the real link between straight country, rockabilly, and country rock of the 60s.
I am glad you enjoyed the video. I am not familiar with Lattie Moore. I will be before the night is over.
I have checked into him. You may be right. Even though he never had much success, other than regionally. He did work with some people that went onto to be major stars . Those that come to mind are Johnny Cash and George Jones. The latter in which he wrote a song with. I will do more research.
While Dave McGowan’s Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon : Laurel Canyon, Covert Ops & The Dark Heart of the Hippie Dream, indubitably follows this approach, its focus is utterly unique. Not to put too fine a point on it, the book is no less than the Official Classic Rock Conspiracy Theory, with individual chapters tackling the unlikely subjects of Frank Zappa, the Doors, Love, the Beach Boys, the Byrds, Gram Parsons and more, the careers of which are scrutinized for the fingerprints of the secret state.
It sounds like it is worth checking out and I will. Thank you for watchin the video. I hope you enjoyed it.
I never realized Gram was from Winter Haven Florida
Yep
I was aware of Gram's music in general but wasn't aware Country Music had a spell over "Hickory Wind" and listening to it I can't tell, what am I missing?
It was what was called progressive country or country rock
@@CMSProductions thanks! I saw later that his outfits had stuff referring to dope and stuff too when he performed at the Oprey, thanks again ✌️
I think his timing was perfect...
I believe that with today's popularity of alt country he would have been a mega star but I do see your ooint
One cool way to give your documentary legitimacy is to pronounce the names right. It's not Roger McgYOUin, it's Roger McgWIN.
Thanks
Ty. Wtf
You say tomato I say potato.
He mispronounced so many words.
This video is basically someone poorly reading from the Wikipedia page.
Good video.
Thanks! Thanks for watching. I am glad you enjoyed it Rock
@@CMSProductions Hi Spotlight TV! You have a lot of interesting details about Gram.
I think that I SAW Gram Parsons, but I'm not sure, in Spring 1972, at Case Western Reserve University, in Cleveland, Ohio. The university had a free concert, and I don't remember the name of the band. But I do remember my surprise, at seein' a bunch of hippies, with a pedal steel, singin', "We don't smoke marijuana in Muskogee..."
How many hippie bands did that???
I LOVED that pedal steel sound, and was very impressed with the concert.
For a while, up through about 1962, Cleveland, Ohio, had ONE and ONLY ONE Country Music venue, called the "Denison Square Theater" (by W 25th and Denison, up the hill from the Zoo, torn down by 1962). My Dad took me to see some legendary performers there, including Ernest Tubb, Little Jimmy Dickens, Kitty Wells with Johnny and Jack, Stonewall Jackson, Flatt and Scruggs, and Wilma Lee and Stoney Cooper.
THE Country Music Record Store in Cleveland, was "Tommy Edwards Record Heaven", whose FIRST location (of many later), was right across the street from the Denison Square Theater. My Dad bought me a 45rpm, and I had Stonewall Jackson sign it ("16 Fathoms/30 Links of Chain", long gone by now).
As a teen I listened to the "Top 40", but returned to Country Music, in my early 20's. Like Gram, Merle got me with "Bottle Let Me Down". LOVE that Pedal Steel sound.
I play some Old-time Fiddle, and I liked your Old-time Fiddle backup music.
Rock
@Rock Reynolds for me it was my mom that got me to listen to country music. I loved it but as a teenager I rebelled and began to listen to heavy metal and rock. Then in my thirties I switched to outlaw country. with Willie, Waylon and the boys. No i listen to mostly classic country.
@@CMSProductions Hi Spotlight!
You know, Classical Music really took off, back when Bach was writin' stuff, and I really enjoy lots of the EARLY "Classical Music". But any Classical Music written since Mozart and Beethoven, sucks.
Conversely, I have been very intrigued by the "evolution" of AMERICAN "Honky Tonk Music", which has really evolved over the last 80 years.
Starting with Hank Sr, Hank wasn't allowed to use drums (He was "lucky" to be allowed to use electric instruments, by Opry standards), and Helms did a fantastic job on the steel, but the steel didn't have any pedals then. Jerry Rivers was limited to "double-stops only" on the fiddle. Hank almost never sang with a "harmony partner" (I heard some "Gospel" by Hank, NOT as "Luke the Drifter", in which Hank did sing with a female harmonist.).
Right after Hank Sr. died (3 weeks after I was born), pedals appeared on the steel. Hank's protege, Ray Price, in addition to having pedals on the steel, made some modifications to "Honky Tonk", by singing HARMONIES, and by allowing the fiddle to play "single stop", which sounds way cool.
(Ray Price was a victim of the tragedy, known as "Countrypolitan", in 1961.)
THEN, Buck Owens took the "Ray Price" sound, and shifted the emphasis from "fiddle/pedal steel", to "pedal steel/fiddle". Buck Owens had the additional advantage, that producers allowed Buck (mostly Don Rich), to play like they wanted to play.
Meanwhile, Clarence White and Doc Watson, turned the flattop, into a LEAD instrument, with flat-picking, and Leo Fender inundated the Music Scene, with solid body electric guitars.
THEN, Clarence White added string-bending to the Telecaster. Spotlight, if you haven' seen the following video, about Gene Parsons drilling a hole in Clarence White's Telecaster, it's worth a look (Marty Stuart owns that guitar now.).
ruclips.net/video/zxQhbvke44I/видео.html
Here's my point. America is sitting on a POWDER KEG of Music, Music that one does NOT hear, on "American Idol" or "America's Got Talent".
American Music ROCKS, and it is STILL IMPROVING. I think it's gonna "bust out", and it's interesting to know the History, like your channel provides.
Rock
@Rock Reynolds It sounds like you know your history too. As far as classical goes I prefer Baroque form.
Excuse me, but what's that photo of Fleetwood Mac doing in this presentation? As far as I know, Gram Parsons was never a member.
The picture that you are questioning is a a picture of Moe Olsten who signed Gram Parson's to Reprise records. He is shown with Fleetwood Mac. At no point did we say that Gram Parson's was part of Fleetwood Mac. We are sorry for the confusion.
@@CMSProductions Thanks for your sombre reply. I tend towards mockery, but didn't intend any disrespect for the thorough work you folks did putting together such a documentary on the great but troubled Gram Parsons. I learned things I hadn't known before. I appreciate your getting back to me! Take care!-JEZEBEL
This narrator's voice and pronunciation of names is hilarious. Where did they find this guy? hahaha
Richard I thought about becoming subscriber number 8 for your channel. I decided to wait until you post something other than other peoples channel.
This is my first time seeing Gram Parsons. He looks like Nick Lowe. I wonder how many women thought he was hot back in the day?
A lot.lol
I looked him up after seeing a picture of him, could hardly believe he had passed in 1973! He was so good looking! His abuse of booze and whatever drugs he used did not show in his face at all. Alot of peoples lives of drugs etc show on them. Ah well..
@@roslynnmemme8634 He got in with the wrong rock and roll crowd. For one thing, he was BFF with Keith Richards! Knowing what Keith looks like now, I shudder to think that Gram would have turned out the same way had he lived. You know what they say--"live fast, die young, and leave a good looking corpse"!
He is very striking and I was surprised he was country .. but then I watched the video and it makes more sense he was leaning more into rock. That is the look he had
@@karmasutra4774 I wasn't too surprised by his non-country looks (the "rhinetones" he wore sorta made up for it). Nick Lowe dabbled in country, too, but then--he was Johnny Cash's son-in-law
Who's McGooin?
Thanks for sharing
Kaufman lived with Manson in 68. I have to wonder if GP crossed paths with CM? Manson had some ok songs I think.
Some of CM's music was good. I have no doubt that within the circle that both CM and GP traveled in that their paths had to cross at some point. I have no doubt that with GP personality that even if they were best buds that CM would not have had much influence on GP. Agian I thank you for watching the video
FYI to the clueless narrator: anyone who knows anything about the Byrds knows that Roger McGuinn's name is pronounced as 'mah-gwin', not 'mah-gue-in'
Kevin, thank you for you kind and insightful words. I thought about subscribing to your channel but decided that since you have not been willing to put yourself out there for either people to like or not like I would wait.
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thanks.
It was pronounced mac gwin, not macguin. His frist name was Jim, later he became Rodger, don't know why, tho
hmmm
Thank you. Every time this guy mispronounces it, my
Blood pressure goes up. The man is a damn legend FFS 🤦♀️
Roger Maguwen
Please read the comments
050123 Enigma. I keep comng back... one day I'll find out why. Hickory Wind.
understood
Mc GWINN, not "McGoo-in" I couldn't get past that, sorry.
I agree. Sometimes my southern accent gets in the way. Sorry
Although I like the narrator's rough-hewn voice, he really shoulda been coached in the pronunciation of proper nouns. He consistently pronounces Roger McGuinn's last name as "mick-goo-in." I didn't even know who he was talking about the first couple of mentions. He pronounces Houston Street (pronounced "how-stun") in lower Manhattan to sound like Houston, the city in Texas. And as I was writing this comment, I heard him pronounce "psilocybin" as "sil-o-bin."
As the narrator with the rough-hewn voice I agree I could have done a better job.
You done fine Sir, the story is what was important.
Who the hell is Roger Mcguanne? I wish they'd get their pronunciations right. Roger McGuinn
Working on it.
Chris Hillman has never had anything nice to say about Gram.
Ok
But he found Emmylou for Gram, and singing with her made him happy. Chris said he thought of it like a manager would; right height, same hair, and both had innocent faces.
Narrater: Roger's surname is MC GUINN, not MC EWEN
Thanks for sharing
The narrator is not of this era. Mac Goowin? Silloben (psilocybin)?
I am of the era. however I am southern and sometimes my pronunciation comes out wrong. This is 100000 times I have apologies.
Thank you lol... has nothing to do with his being southern, as he says, he simply just didn't ever learn the proper pronunciations.
Its pronounced Howston Street and Gren-ich Village.
thanks
Gram Parsons is portrayed as some kind of country music savant. In reality he got started doing folk music. People like Bob Buchanan, who co-wrote 'Hickory Wind', got Gram interested in country music. Gram lucked into a gig with The Byrds, who had already dabbled in country music and made country flavored recordings (e.g., Mr. Spaceman) several years prior to his hiring. He was a talented songwriter and decent singer who helped re-energize The Byrds, but he also tried to take over the band, which didn't sit well with Hillman & McGuinn. Then he bailed on the eve of the South African tour. His increasing intake of alcohol and drugs got him fired from the Burritos and ultimately cost him his life.
Thank you for your take on Gram.
Gram was a good performer but not great. I was there when country music tried to merge with rock. It did not really work but country began to be very popular again.
Gram RIP had he lived, he may have developed his style further.
His first country influenced band The International Submarine Band was started at Harvard with Bob Nuese - a Yankee who suggested they go the Country route. He was singing/writing folk in the coffee houses of Cambridge, MA.
His work with Emmylou promised a flowering of his talent that was cut so short. He didn't even live to be 27.
He inspired Jeffrey Lee Pierce.
Sweet
Twas a long time of go,()/_-& very good music when I heard it first; time has changed, but de wind nevr will!!!🏜️✝️⭐ Thank you 4 de story, may god bless all who have njoyd:☮️🐬🐯amen
Thank you and I wish the same for you
good facts...announcer is desperately in need of help with name pronouciation; nice voice, despite tending toward droning.
Thanks I think..lol. Trying to get better. i agree on the name pronunciation. Will work on the droning. Thanks for watching.
Bernie Leadon has had his name mis pronounced so many time he was asked what’s the correct way to pronounce his name.His answer was he really didn’t care . Just spell it correctly on the check.
Did someone tell the narrator to purposely mis-pronounce as many words as possible?
Nope I did it all on my own.
Uhh Roger Mc "gwen" not Mc "gyuen" wtf
yep, my bad
Bob Jones University? Really? Would never had thought.
Hmmm
Just to do some recording.
How's Mcgooin? You mean McGuinn dude c'mon.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts
Gram wrote the song “Wild Horses” and the Stones took credit. 😞😞😞😱
Hmm
Fran Drescher? 🤓🚀
I love Gram but he never the Stones let him record it a year before them cause they knew it wouldn't be a hit by him. Jagger and Richards wrote it. They wrote dead flowers, far away eyes, and sweet Virginia they wrote a few country songs back then. He certainly influenced them with country.
Not true. Wild Horses was written by Mick & Keef, mostly by Keef.
They let the Grevious Angel record it before the Stones did. Sticky Fingers, remember?
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Yes, he did. Probably one of the greatest things he'd ever done, the Grievous Angel.
I think the voice is AI.
That’s about as unGram Parsons as you can get.
Still, the content was interesting.
Voice on that one is not A I. If it was there wouldn't be so many mistakes
Harvard wanted some of his family's cash.
Ok
Get a decent narrator
Working on it but he is the owner. lol
Is this AI?
Nope
For god's sake, McGuinn's last name is NOT "McKuen" OR "McGoo-in."
Yep you are right. I made a mistake. Thanks for pointing it out. I guess I should just shut down this channel because you are upset.
@@CMSProductions All my life I've worked with copy editors and producers who point out mistakes. I thank them because they make my work better and make me look good. Being petulant when a mistake is pointed out is the opposite of being professional. Good luck.
@Dan DePrez I understand that but because of how old the video is and how many views the video has gotten and is still getting I hear about those mistake, and there were quite a few, i hear about it constantly. I figured by now people would realize that I know about my mistakes. I do thank you for pointing it out but you are in a list of 100s. I do apologies for being "petulant" as you say. It struck me as being a rude way to let me know what you thought. I wish you only the best and may you be blessed in life.
@@CMSProductions props for coming back and answering your thread. Also, I don't believe you made this for fame and fortune so folks can get over it lol
@@elizabethheyenga9277 You got that right. When I made that video i was just starting to make videos. The mistake I made was using my own voice. As far as fame and fortune goes, I make these videos to try and tell the story of these artist and what they went through to bring their art to use and how much like us they are. Fame i don't want. Fortune, well lets say I live a comfortable life for an old country boy. Earned but not from RUclips.
Your failure to correctly pronounce Roger McGuinn's name destroys any credibility that you might otherwise have had.
Thank you for your opinion. However your failure to mention the other words I mispronounced destroys any credibility you had as a critic
Soothing voice? Sure. But the guy is reading from a script (normal) and doesn’t know how to pronounce the words (unforgivable).
Ah Please forgive me.
His dad killed himself ?
Not that we know of
His father was a war vet who killed himself just before Christmas in 1958 when Gram was 12.
@@margaretross9150 Yep
@@margaretross9150 that is soo terrible!!!
Will you please take the effort to pronounce peoples names correctly!!! I mean how hard is it- otherwise pretty decent job!!!
Ed. Thank you for your thoughtful comment. I am working on doing a better job in all area's of the videos that I create, including pronouncing names. I again thank you for your comment.
@@CMSProductions I am specifically referring to- Rodger McGuinn, and Bernie Leadon. These are two VERY big names and not getting them right really puts a bad mark on what is actually quite a nice video!
@ed Sanders. I agree. I should quit making videos until I learn to get every aspect completely correct.
@@CMSProductions No, don't quit!
@@margaretross9150 I don't plan on it.
Though this is somewhat informative, the narrator repeatedly mispronounces people's names as well as places.
One should do their homework before presenting information like this.
I apologies for the mistakes in the video. It is comforting to know that there are people in the world who don't make mistakes and have the time to point out other peoples. I wonder what the world would be like if there were more people like that.
The narrator needs today off the Ludes.
LMAO. I will work on that.
tell that to Sam Elliott. Get over yourself, I like how he rolls
Who is Roger MC cuen ha ha ha does this guy know anything about the Byrds or is just reading a piece of paper badly.
It was a southern accent gone wrong or it could have been I was nervous because this was one of the first videos I had done. But at any rate I fired myself and I have apologized every day since posting the video. I hope this meets with your pleasure. As we say in the south Bless your little heart.
@@CMSProductions it was a very accurate account of GP. I did like the whole video sorry that I was too critical.
@Jay Touvelle It wasn't that you were to critical. It is just everyday several people send me similar text. my skin is to thick to let it bother me. it does however get old over time. I do appreciate you watching the video and I hope you will watch others. I try to answer each and every messages i received. It is my way of showing appreciation. Thank you again for watching the video and may God bless you and yours.
Thanks, David
Talented but highly over rated.
that is one opinion
I got 10 minutes through this b4 I couldn't take any more if this narrators voice..guy sounds like he has a cold and his nose is stuffed up..annoying Af
Interesting. Have a blessed day.
@@CMSProductions AAAIIIGGGHHH!!! The dreaded "blessed day!" lol sorry but that phrase drives me nuts. Nothing personal.
@@richardcrowson9265 It's all good. Should I wish you not to have a blessed day then?
Really?? He had a sweet voice yes, but was no prolific songwriter, or of any note really, another singer who's early death and legend being bigger than his ability(in context, yes he had ability, but his early death meant immortality and less facts about his limitations as a songwriter, gene clark was greater in every respect, but this guy gets more kudos, as in inventing country rock and cosmic rock, which he didn't, gene did it before him, sorry, gram was good, but not THAT good!
Don't hold back tell me how you really feel
@@CMSProductions wow, touchy arn't we🤔I didn't say gram had no talent, he did, I'm putting things in perspective,he was totally country to me, more than true Americana and cosmic, he gets all the accolades, while gene clark often gets left behind, gene was a true cosmic cowboy, and songwriting genius, gram wasn't a genius songwriter, he wasn't, but what he was, I do like, but he was nothing more, his early death magnified him more, like it did with Jimmy Dean, who I think was a totally overrated actor, gram isn't overrated, he was very good at what he did, his influence and substance in what he did I feel is overestimated, sorry, didn't mean to offend🙏
Parsons was a Trust Fund baby screw up for the most part.
What he was, was a musical visionary. no matter where his money came from.
Gram was a true visionary. I have been a fan for years. Thanks
Its lazy to throw "loving family" money at a him. Much harder to participate in loving a child. Imagine what his life could have been with genuine love. He was a true visionary.
@@VanessaMallia Amen and Amen
@@VanessaMallia like how ?
I learned about this artist, had no idea who he was. But your voice narration is soothing. You could read bed time stories for those of us that need extra help
I should put that on my business cards. " The Voice That Will Put You To Sleep. LMAO. Seriously, thank you for the compliment.
@@CMSProductions Okay I did not mean it in a bad way at all lol. I think it’s nice :)
I can't take it! It's NOT Mcgooin, it's pronounced McGuinn /məˈɡwɪn/.
Thanks for sharing