Repairing a Rear Tine Tiller - Part Two of Three
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
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This is the second part in a three part series on the repair of this rear tine tiller. In this video, we replaced the necessary parts and began reassembling the tiller. I hope you're finding this how-to series interesting...thanks for watching!
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MacLeod's description:
Genre: Blues
Length: 3:15
Instruments: Guitar, Bass, Kit, Organ, EP
Tempo: 90
With a jumping bass and off-beat syncopation, this is straight from Memphis' Beale Street. The Hammond organ and electric guitar play together as longtime friends, while the melody changes hands from guitar to organ to electric piano. 011
ISRC: US-UAN-11-00709
Bouncy, Grooving 2010
This was a repair we were doing for someone else. We no longer have the tiller around to get the numbers off of it. Thanks for watching, I hope the videos are still useful in some way.
THANK YOU guys, for posting this. I've got the same machine here in my shop, and wasn't sure how it came apart once it was down to the transmission case. You've saved me a ton of headaches and frustration. Heaven forbid the manufacturer would provide their service centres with the manuals to repair their products.
Good Lord. I had a heckuva time finding part 2. Not sure why RUclips doesn't keep them in order.
Anyway, appreciate the breakdown on this. I'm pretty sure I will have to do the same.
Thanks much
Wulfy
This helped me very much thanks for taking the Time to share. Just sprayed shifting shaft heated with a touch and did not have to split the case but you opening it up for all of us was great thanks again
I love it when you have to totally tear something apart, for what turns out to be a fairly simple fix. But if you like taking things apart and seeing how they work, this would be a great project.
That's great to hear, I'm glad it helped.
I have the exact same machine with the same problem. After watching your video and seeing that the problem was just the shifter shaft frozen to the bushing I just hit it with some WD40 and let it soak in. I then gave it a tap with the hammer and problem was solved. I never would have tried that had I not seen your video, thanks.
Water must have gotten to it. Keep it in the shed always!
Thanx for this video, now I know why the mechanic down at Sears tried to sell me a new transmission. looks simple enough, just be patient. My shifter is locked up also, so now i know how to fix it. Thanks again.
@pearsonba350 It's always interesting to see what's inside. I guess it's better that we didn't find a bunch of chewed up gears inside.
I've been working on a Crapman 7hp 17" rear tine tiller, basically the same gear box but the final drive gear/sprocket combo is a little different. Started as a carb rebuild, ended up as a near 100% disassembly to fix a broken #35 wheel drive chain.
It got really fun when I realized that someone had dropped some limestone gravel in the case and some of it got ground into little pieces and distributed through the entire gearbox and I had to take out every single thing in the gearbox and clean it all up. I now have about 10 hours in it and just got the case put back together. If it breaks again I think I will just push it out into the highway
Thanks Guys. I'm getting ready to experience this with my Yard-man Tiller... and I dread it! Thanks Again!
I like your video. Was looking for one on a Troy Bilt but I like how you explain what is going on plus I like how you respond to people who post here. I don't need to rebuild my tiller but it's always good to have the info on hand ahead of time in case you ever need it.
I have one of these apart right now and I have it completely dissembled. The small chain broke and the slider was sticking a bit so I ordered a couple parts to cleaned up all the old grease due to it being contaminated with water.
Now it's figuring out how all this stuff goes back together lol!
Glad you like the videos, it's always good to hear positive feedback. Thanks for watching!
Same problem of the shifting lever rusted fast and not wanting to rotate. I oiled it and letting it soak through before trying to free it. Ball and spring in the block this shifter lifts seems okay. Ordered a new gasket and I'll strip all parts of old grease/clean and re-grease/ and re-assemble after I figure out where the gears and cogs go. But I'll install several grease fittings in the case walls before I re-assemble, and I intend to use thick, black exterior paint to help further seal the joint because the original gasket allowed water to get in. Thanks for the vid
It’s not the gasket, water gets in around the shift rod. Use RV blue or grey instead of or in addition to the gasket. You don’t need more grease fittings. Assemble it with one full tube pumped over all the gears and chains. Then once a month pump a shot into the existing fitting. Use good grease- hi-tack type. A seal or boot at the shift rod would keep water out, but store it inside regardless.
Thanks for making this video. I have a 79 Snapper IR 4000 and it has trouble going into gear. It looks like its a similar setup with the shifter fork. It helped me narrow down whats wrong with it.
Glad it helped...thank you for watching!
@koioo2 If you take pictures while you take it apart, putting it back together can be a bit easier. Thanks for watching!
Tines are always on on my Gilson rear tine tiller. Wheel drive is on a separate gear case. Interesting how different designs accomplish the same task.
Way more involved than I hoped it would be! I think I will try grease, WD40, and some additional gentle persuasion first.
@shartne They said they kept it in the machine shed, but you're right, it still must have seen some water.
Well done. I like seeing what I am going to find inside. Looks exactly like mine: 5hp Rear Tine Hard to believe that the sifter wasn't stuck on something else. Rust welded? Rust welded? I put a lot of pressure on it both ways. Tapping on it maybe, or spraying some rust blaster?
Wow taking it all apart . . .
ouch.
Again nicely done (video wise) and mechanically apart and back together. David
Looks nice and gunky inside there.. ha ha - well made video, quite informative. :-)
Thank you 🙏 for taking the time to share your Videos about this Rear Tine Rototiller. Did you by any chance Replace any of the Needle Bearings that goes inside of the Gear ⚙️? I purchased a used model Exactly the same as your Rototiller. I did Everything that you and your Bud Wally did Down to a Tee. When I noticed broken Needle Bearings that came out of a Gear ⚙️. I’m waiting on replacement parts now as we speak. Fingers are crossed 🤞. Thanks again for your videos. Hopefully your Rototiller is up and running.
yep was great help ... many thanks
Can you tell me how you got the shift rod out? the part he replaced. Is there a pin or ring holding it in? I've heated it and hammered and twisted the shaft with no results.
I'm considering doing this same job on a western auto/AYP/Electrolux 8hp tiller I bought for $50 because it had a nearly new B&S engine that would fit on my old gilson 8hp/5 speed beast with a dusted motor. I'm thinking this tiller may be worth salvaging though. Seems like the shifting fork is the weak spot, is the replacement part improved over the original? I am considering making one out of 4140 if the replacements are still fragile.
@supercargarage Had to have a little fun with it anyway....thanks for watching!
@Bevoin1970 Thanks for watching!
Ya think they would have put a grease fitting on that part or a sealed bearing!! Imagine all the tillers that get thrown out because of that eh!!☺
I am seriously considering doing just that...machining one out of better steel, 4140 or maybe 17-4 stainless, whatever I have scraps big enough for, and make it more lube friendly. Looks like it may need some kind of felt seal with a cap over it to keep the water out...mine will stay in the shed, but still....just thinking.
Those are bargains if you don't mind fixing them. Our push mower cost 5 bucks in non running condition with the carb in a box. Looked like it was a fairly new model. Cleaned the carb and bought an air filter. Ran like new.
I just did mine, I wish I could add pics but might if make a few suggestions....
@LOWERHHR Thanks for watching!
Thank you very much for the video on this. we were able to take apart with ease. question my bearings are bad on the imput shaft. can you tell me the best way to remove the bearing on the opposite end of the pulley. it looks like some type of cap bearing. Thank you very much for your help on this.
I don't suppose you know where I could get a picture of all the cogs from? I had a couple of missing bolts, it was full of mud and grease. I can't work out one cog again after cleaning.
I didn't realize the cases were lubed with grease from the factory, but I Guess oil would leak right out. Did you buy that grease by the bucket or how many tubes did you spread around, and what kind of grease?
@805ROADKING They definitely don't build them to last. Planned obsolescence I guess.
I had to split mine for a broken chain. My brother in law gave it to us because he had already had it break two chains and he refused to do it a third time. He believes it breaks the chain because the tine "shear" pins are too hard to actually shear. I have replaced them with grade two bolts to see if this helps it not break another chain. Time will tell.
@Busia1949 I guess if PB Blaster did the job...it would have made for a pretty short video..lol Thanks for watching!
The thumbnail look like you had a horrible accident involving your fingers and the chain😮😂. Glad it’s just grease
Do you have to take the engine off to open the case? I pulled the pins on the wheels but they won't come off. Any suggestions? Thanks
Thank you for the Video . I am in the process of repairing mine . I think Ive got it . Im having problems getting the wheel on due to the long bolt on the side of the case . What am I doing wrong? does the wheel shaft move one way or the other once bolted?
I wish there was a video of the part being removed. I guess it just slides over and down through the shaft hole.
Well shoot this is 10yrs old so what do I have a damn Husqvarna rear tine, it drives just fine but shift into the tines position and nothin. It goes in but nothin on the tines there locked up it seems.
I have the same problem with my shifter lever. Is it necessary to remove the right wheel and right tine to split the transmission case for the repair?
You have to remove the tines. You have to remove everything that isn’t the actual case, basically. Then get the case on a bench and open it up.
Did you just beat the shift arm out with a hammer, or is the some kind of pin holding it in?
can you share the model # i have a supposed craftsman 8500 series, yours is identical to mine just a polan, maybe i can get the input shaft number that way.
i bought a beast machine, same gear pattern same drive same every thing.
nice work by the way.
The thumbnail looks like your hand got caught in the chain🤣
Yes! I thought this was gonna be a video about what not to do. Lol
shifting fork as a spring an ball. how does it stay in the hole?
great job with video i have one a little older(gray colour) think it needs bearing but i like to know where did u gets ur parts
@emersonceilingfan1 Thanks for watching!
Did it have grease fittings on the frame
ha where did you buy your parts for the tiller I need to do the same thing to mind it want go in gear .The tiller part works put the wheel want pull can you help me by giving me the web page you wet to .think you
Ok guys I know this is an old video but thought I might pass along some info for those looking like me and my repair. In most cases it won't shift due to the ball bearing, and spring being rusted. Even though the case has a gasket it's useless to keep out water. When I took apart mine "given to me" it was full of water, and sludge I mean full. Always order all the needle bearings when splitting the cases. Don't want to have to open her again. JMO.
@JOHNDEEBANK They definitely can be pretty pricey. Thanks for watching!
@TheBuffaloChicken Unfortunately, this job was for a family member, so he's not going to profit much from it.
@73Shakes It is pretty involved...and all just to get to replace the shifting fork. Thanks for watching!
in the shift fork how does the spring an ball stay in?
It goes in from the center with the spring first and then the ball and slide it on the selector rod
I thought these gear cases used gear oil instead of grease
Apparently they didn't think that anything would ever go wrong in side the case. lol thats insane at what you have to do.
Will there be any JB Weld invovled? Its not a repair with theres no JB Weld somewhere lol only kidding.
Thanks for sharing great vids
Your tines are backwards
The Thumbnail look like a bloody mess I was confused for a sec thought you tore your fingers up
What the f*** is with the really heavy breathing creeping me out
😂