Destiny Reviews His Chaotic Debate On Jubilee
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- Destiny reviews his Jubilee debate and the drama between panelists that didn't make the cut...
Black Conservatives vs White Liberals | Middle Ground
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Date: 5 September, 2023
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00:00:00 Teasers / Intro
00:00:28 Black conservatives vs white liberals Jubilee middle ground
00:02:16 Aim of the Jubilee show
00:02:59 Democrat and republican party switch
00:06:37 Destiny gets baited
00:09:12 Conservative talking points
00:11:25 Destiny's evolving stance on tokenism
00:14:18 Affirmative action
00:19:13 Every stereotypical answer
00:23:05 Everyone soying out on Jubilee
00:26:57 Donald Trump and Hunter Biden joke
00:32:15 Central park 5 correction
00:43:01 Having progressives on your team
00:49:04 White savior complex
00:51:50 Destiny reads and clarifies MLK riot quote
00:54:50 Alec can't stop interrupting Renee
00:59:19 Funny ending rant by Alec
01:01:34 VG joins stream
01:05:04 Alec in Hasan's chat
01:08:36 She only looks black because of her hair
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@destiny And yet the highest number of racist hate crimes in modern day occur in Naw York and California…
Hey Destiny have you tried barotrauma?
Why did you say the Central Park 5 were exonerated? The sentence was vacated, which is completely different than exonerated. Not all of them were black either. 2 were Latino. Where were the "corrections" in that segment?
Bill Cosby's sentence was vacated. Was he exonerated in your opinion?
Usually its hard to disagree w you destiny but i dont think its a mute point. Theres still plenty of politicians who were part of these parties like biden whos mentor was part of the KKK. It may be different for us today, but for them its not. Now you can call me a concspirqcy theorist but i find it hard to believe its different for these old politicians and before trump biden literally had a 40 yr political career known specifically for being a liar, and was called out many times and plagiarized speeches. I think both parties are fucked and corrupt but to act like these arguments hold no water whatsoever when you theres still some of the people in power is insane
Also how does meritocracy mean at the end of their journey?
Alec really played the "you're not black enough, trust me I'm white" card outside of reddit. What a time to be alive.
Alec was on Hasans stream
@@KaeMaiden yeah really good at sucking
@@KaeMaiden Why are you replying to every comment defending Alec? Like are you Alec or just a troll?
@@Trez2332 100% his alt
@@Trez2332 he's talking about his asshole when they had gay sex
They didn't even need the four conservatives, they should've just asked Alec what all Black people think if they wanted answers
Or joe biden, you're not black if you don't vote for him after all.
@@ihaveachihuahau True and based
@@ihaveachihuahau you're still schizo about that misspeak AND you think the party switch wasnt real, seek help
@@skellymen2395what was the misspeak? As a non-american im curious.
@@upsidedownmachiatto2670 joe biden did not actually mean you arent black if you dont vote for him
Alec was sent there to be a clear cut example of liberal racism
Any democrat would have been an example of it.
@Fabric_Hater what party does the kkk support again?....
He's right tho. She's almost white.
I guess Alec hasn’t seen Get Out
Alec reminds me of a sheltered kid in the suburbs
I'm convinced Alec was sent by Vaush to stand in his place to sabotage Destiny
Destiny came across as lame and no spine. Not entertaining at all.
the dude is so cringe its like the last 3 years didn't happen. feel like he is stuck at 2017
@@aSSGoblin1488 I hate to break this to you but 2017 was 6 years ago. feels like 3 years ago to me as well.
@@aSSGoblin1488 don't worry bro the lockdown-timeskip makes 2017 only feel like 3 years ago to me too
@@Shailuser say sike right now
Alec walked away from this debate thinking “Damn, I need to save them harder! I don’t try hard enough!”.
Bro, you know deep down Alec wants every black conservative in that room to be shot.
Comment of the stream right here lol
come on guys be nicer to him HE HAD TO WATCH OLD PPL DIE FROM NOT BEING ABLE TO BREATHE@@carlospthedon
@@KaeMaiden yeah at sucking
I honestly didn’t like ARTPOP as an album as much from Lady Gaga. Which was your favorite album?
I could feel Steven wishing Alec would shut up from every second of that Jubilee video
I think most people in that room who were avoiding making eye contact with Alec when he spoke were subtly trying to communicate to him: "hey man, you're embarrassing yourself, please cut that out"
Destiny is no better, except that he shut up. he knew all the bullshit he preached was out the window the second he sat in front of four black people. He just knew all his years of bullshit meant nothing when put in the real moment.
@@KaeMaiden your absolutely wrong. He was the the definition of out of touch progressive. Cringe take.
@@KaeMaidenyou’ve got to be trolling? He was cringier than the conservative kid by miles.
@@KaeMaiden "Joined Jun 17, 2023" ... sure buddy
I am convinced Alec was grown in a vat somewhere to be the physical incarnation of Reddit.
A vat of all the jizz spilled from white Redditors who intentionally look up interracial p*rn because they think stroking it to that will resolve all racial disparities.
His sister really fkd him over
😂😂😂
Not even Sacha Baron Cohen could be this cringey.
I'm not gonna' say he's a plant. But...hot damn, man
My favorite part was how the people have changed politically
Alec: I used to be cringe, but I'm not anymore
Everyone: You sure, bruv?
You don't understand, he found Hasan and he made him uncringe!
"I used to be cringe, I still am, but I used to too!"
Destiny created Vaush, Vaush created Alec, therefore Alec is Destinys child.
I'm here all day....
destiny created new life like the amazing woman he is
Grandchild
You are rewarded with unlimited PTO. You win.
Say his name, say his name
I loled
Alec is a clear example of where politics is at. Alec doesn’t see anyone who disagrees as other humans they are the enemy and must be ‘defeated’.
he was 100% dead serious in regards to his comment on not agreeing with people's opinion and labeling them a racist. Those two guys were right in calling him out for it.
You mean like calling people who voted for Trump maggots? Regardless of how cutely you spell it
I mean that’s republicans in a heart beat. They claim to be ration and respectable when it comes to conversations.. but from what I have experienced and seen.. not at all.
could be the case for sure. However, there are most likely conservatives you can talk to that don't do that. Other factor could be is that you are talking to these people like Alec talks, triggering and pissing ppl off. Id be happy to try having a calm, respectable, rational conversation with you.@@chrism8311
Republicans are evil and they should be defeated, he’s not wrong at all
Alec dresses like Vaush and addresses people like Vaush, he failed at being Vaush when the bar is literally in hell.
He definitely has a similar vernacular to him. It’s actually kind of unsettling.
I was thinking more Prof Sunday, he has the same cadence as him as well the insurmountable amount of unearned smugness
@@awaister The "if they disagree with me they're racist" line sounds almost exactly like Pres Sunday when he is a bit ticked off.
bro im imploding into myself with how cringe alec was trying to get hassan's attention.
Same for the other guy tbh, I understand why they were like that buts its so awkward to see from the outside
Lol isn’t it crazy that’s logical behavior in his head
did you see me papa, i tried to defend your honor papa, i repeated your lessons papa, don't call me cringe papa
@@Gemerl i think everyone understands why they are like that, it's embarrassing to see it on display from a grown man
@@Borrelaas
I actually don't understand how or why he is like that?
I guess he never talks to anyone outside of online echo chambers?
But idk.
If any conservative made that comment about her hair they would be called all type names. Alec is insufferable and that comment was so out of pocket
Nah he can say that, he's one of the good white people.
Liberals are the most racist
I mean it is true though… the reason she’s never personally experienced racism is probably because she doesn’t even look black… she’s whiter than my Mediterranean friends for Christs sake. On top of this, she sounds like she comes from a wealthy background. It is factually correct to state that she doesn’t experience the same kind of prejudice a black person who presents obviously black experiences. Mixed-race couples experience this struggle first hand, having sometimes one white and one black-presenting child, and observing in real-time the different ways in which they are treated.
@@matsab7930yeah I don’t get the “if the roles were reversed” I don’t get it.
@@matsab7930 what do you mean she doesn't "look black" though?
I just love how they made the conservative guy on the thumbnail look so soy and Destiny look so smug
Do you think that they did that on purpose
@@ymbrial9123 it looks eye-catching, that's for sure
It's like the meme with the soy guy and the chad "Yes" guy, except the conservative is the soy guy and Destiny the progressive is the chad guy.
@@coreyander286 No, the progressive is normally the soy guy. I think the soy face was actually invented to mock progressives.
@@razzle_dazzle "Ah, you see, I drew you as the ugly guy and me as the chad, so your arguments are invalidated. Get destroyed liberal."
Getting through this video without dying because of Alec's cringe was quite the task.
I absolutely couldn't get through the original. This version was bearable.
@@KaeMaiden yeah at sucking
@@KaeMaiden some of the most racist shit I’ve ever heard. Now we no what side you REALLY stand on, Alec
I know a guy like Alec but in worse shape . He’s from Arkansas and very insecure about his conservative past. He overcompensates this a lot and he can barely have a conversation without getting emotional. One time he got so angry over in VC because someone criticized China or something and he broke his headphones. Maturity level is like a toddler.
Sometimes he would say things that are basically horseshoe theory coming true. I’m Asian and he would say things like “I don’t know why people would say your English is bad. I can understand you most of the time. You’re pretty good! Don’t feel shy”. Nobody was saying they couldn’t understand me and I’m not shy. English is official language where I live lol I just don’t have an American accent because I’m not an American.
It’s little things like that here and there. He thinks he’s being super progressive but it’s the same comments I get from conservatives.
People rebound from one idealogy and overcompensate, not missing a chance to tell everyone how they were pulled back from the depths of literal alt right neo nazis but they were essentially just Shapiro/JBP watchers and in mild anti SJW circles. Just see how people react to anyone watching Rogan now. For someone left enough even center/center right is the worst thing.
@@lancevance6346 I suspect in his case it was more than that because from what I know he’s been this way for a while way before the anti SJW content boom around 2016. Not sure if he was in some hardcore conservative camp. He doesn’t like to talk about it.
@@lancevance6346 oh and he overcompensated too much and was like ACAB. Harrassed local cops and community in general. Now waiting for sentencing of domestic terroristic threats.
I really think these progressives have a mostly female temperament and they are are extreme so they look at minorities as infants that need to be coddled and nothing is there fault. Nothing can be asked of infants. Under no circumstances can you criticize an infant either.
Idk I think people saying someone's English is good is probably pretty normal for conservatives and liberals. There are alot of English as a second language people, so people who speak good English but seem unsure if they are saying something correctly seem common. Someone saying something clearly and concisely then say sorry for my poor English is basically a meme.
Alec: "Am I crazy?"
Yes Alec, you are.
Wrong tho? The other side had nothing
@@pixelbath2131no, definitely not wrong. But arrogant and bad for the cause due to how he comes off.
That Alec dude has a very dangerous mentality I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s something deeper than what he’s showing us.
It’s that “ends justify the means” mentality. Vaush and Hasan use it on their rhetoric and to make a dramatic leap. A certain German party used that same sentiment as a justification for their actions. It’s a slippery slope when you act in a movements favor and not from a genuine place.
Pedophile prob
The deeper thing is that he is a racist. He just infantilizes black people.
Discount Vaush was so unethically obnoxious, it's not even fun. He needs to fix his own issues before he even thinks of "saving" anyone else.
What do you mean by unethically obnoxious?
@@WanderTheNomad So obnoxious it's actually unethical for him to allow himself to have such shit social skills
@@WanderTheNomadhe was a ahole basically
@@WanderTheNomad
He interrupted people while they were speaking to make rather condescending and unproductive counterpoints.
It gives the same energy as Trump saying "wrong" while Hilary was speaking in one of their debates. Like, I understand that there's a time and place to interrupt, but when you have so little to offer to the conversation, regardless of whether Trump was correct to point out Hilary lying, nobody's gonna take him seriously if he won't offer the basic courtesy of letting the other person finish what they're trying to say.
@@youtubeviolatedme7123 Ah okay. The reason I asked was because unethical obnoxiousness implies the existence of ethical obnoxiousness, and I was wondering how that would look like.
I'd like to thank August for putting DGG chat on the video as well as Kick chat. I hadn't realized how much I missed DGG chat. It feels like my stream of consciousness, lol
you play PE at all, or different person
No. Take all chat off
Bruh if DGG chat is a window into your subconscious you need a therapist STAT
DGG chat is cancer
It’s a shame the best chat is missing though
People like Alec, are the reason I dont classify myself as a progressive,
People like him are the reason I don't even want to touch the left with a 20ft pole these days.
That Alec guy telling people they're "triggered" when they disagree with him is such a scummy thing to do.
It's so annoying when people say some out of pocket shit, and then as soon as someone repeats it back to them "YOU MAD YOU MAD LUL"
No, dude. You're just an asshole.
Was that what happened or was that when they all started pearl clutching about being swiftly refuted and called a bootlicker etc? Sounds like they were triggered and had no argument?
@@pixelbath2131 Yeah, 'cause when somebody calls you slurs to dismiss your point of view you can't be offended 'cause that means you're tRIgGered...
@@pixelbath2131More proof that Liberals are way more racist as they try to justify their racism
@@pixelbath2131 It's garbage online-arguing demeanor and he brought that tired playbook to real life conversations. "Oh, it seems you reacted to what I said. TRIGGERED MUCH? I win."
This infantile mindset that arguing is not about understanding, perspective and personal growth but about winning. All that dude did was create the illusion of a dialogue. It's like a "dialogue tree" in a video game where no matter which options you pick it all eventually leads to the same predetermined response. Really does seem like the way his sister "indoctrinated" him was clamping his eyes open clockwork orange style and have him read her radical twitter timeline.
Oh wow, so Vaush/Hassan fan Alec was the racist this whole time...whoooo'd have guessed it?
See you next time, Scooby fans.
Hows was he racist I'd looove to hear this one 😂
I wish Destiny would have had more talk time during this debate. He was so quiet while everyone else talked.
He propably got cut out a lot
True, I hope his debate with Ben if it happens isn't like this one.
I don't think he wanted to look as bad as alec
Facts
I’m convinced Alec is trolling. There’s no way someone actually thinks this way.
He is the physical embodiment of reddit liberals.
Apparently, he's a Vaush fan. I think that says enough about him.
Very toxic. If he was trying to make liberals look bad he did an amazing job
Alex is the clear cut example of a completely unaware Vaush fan
Alec single-handedly dragged everyone down. He reminds me of Milo from the debate earlier, but even less witty and somehow more arrogant.
That Vaush guy was crazy, and calling himself the white saviour, bruh, cringe.
A sociology teacher I had(who was a black old school feminist but had tons of controversial opinions that pissed off the hard lefties of my school) had a theory that one of the factors leading to minority students performing worse once they are in schools is the omnipresent negative and fatalistic racial politics, while she agreed with most social critiques of race/racism she saw that the ideology lead previously well adjusted black students to become extremely disaffected, extremely depressed and often extremely isolated from the many non black students whom could materially benefit them via networking, it also seemed to push many black students into majors in less beneficial fields(identity based social sciences).
It's funny she advocated a sort of constructive post truth idea(obvi post truth tends to have a very negative connotation now) where black students to some extent would be benefited by reframing things to justify their belonging in the college rather than their not belonging(similar to the concept at play in Hamilton she said students could easily imagine that the founder of the college was part black due to his features and she said whether or not this is 'true' it would benefit black students to hold this belief that justifies their presence at the school).
From what I experienced at my college this whole concept seemed super apt.
A good nuanced take!
@@PuddingXXL
Is this really something you've never considered?
Il ne honest this take usually comes from academic encapsulated types...... and not puerile actually in the trenches, figuratively speaking.
Did black students become depressed and isolated due to their mindset or due to their environment? I'm not sure if you've ever experienced the level of isolation of never having a black teacher, being the only black kid in class, or being in a work place where you are the only black voice.....
I had my first black teacher in 8th grade. My second in hs..... my 3rd and 4th were my senior year of college. I have never worked with another black male professional with the same credentials as myself and I've been in my field for 11 years.
Some may say I am cynical but I wasn't always this way. I became this way due to consistent negative events that occurred in my environment..... not the other way around
@@justinkozak7779 I mean the person I'm citing had a lot of these experiences and described being 1 of only 3-4 black students at her college at the time. I'm not saying(and I don't think she was saying) this is the only reason black students struggle once they are admitted in colleges, but I think it is a factor. Repeatedly emphasizing and fixating upon the fact that 'this place wasn't made for you' can't alleviate that same impression which might organically be experienced and figuring out a way to be fine emotionally and socially(by creating your own belief) would probably be helpful for someone who does feel isolated. I'm not saying this as like 'everyone should see this is the objective truth' but it's something to consider, like it's not different than some of the afrocentrism ideas, building a history where maybe there's not objective 'fact' behind it but it provides some sort of motivating and calming structure to your life is definitely helpful for many(even if it's not the key for everyone).
So Hotep idealogy... We can clearly see that people who go around ignoring the reality of things are at a disadvantage.
Its wild to assume that people are struggling not because of things that are actually happening to them but because they don't have the right fictional narrative in their mind.
Dude went from " I need to be quiet and let the minorities speak" to " I need to speak for the minorities because I know what's good for them."
I love that Alec thinks he **used to** be cringe
Renee: wants to pay less taxes
Alec: "People are dying!"
Such a funny response lmao
51:20 I still cannot believe he just outright said this, let alone to a black person's face. "As an older brother" literally lil bro-ing the entire black community.
The word "mandatorily" is indeed a valid form of "mandatory." While "mandatory" is an adjective, "mandatorily" is an adverb. They are used in different contexts to modify different parts of speech. For example, "The meeting is mandatory" uses the adjective form, while "You must attend the meeting mandatorily" uses the adverb form.
I'm right wing and even I'm sitting here thinking Alec was a right-wing plant for what conservatives think a leftist is . . . my word.
Nah, once you get far left enough that’s what you get. Literally look at his daddy vaush
I know someone quite similar to him and he's way worse than Alec. He's also a former conservative and my suspicion people like him and Alec might have done/said really racist things. They realized later in life that that's afffed up and they are trying to overcompensate.
@@TheSethOlsonlol he was cringe but he also has the truest convo eg. You don't care about vets. Then ask what policy do they support far homeless vets. Notice they all avoid that. Because they have not it's all semantics
Bro that how I felt about almost everyone on the video. They all felt so stereotypical
@@TheSethOlsonsadly you don't have to get that far these days.
I hate Alec with a passion
As the white savior, he should be willingly sacrificed for humanity's sake
He remind you of yourself ?
Destiny is such a masculine name wow
Misogynist!
Male strippers exist
The easiest way to defeat progressives in a debate is to just let them talk.
You listen to dumb progressives
Unless they are Dddddestiny
@@wallytomlinsno he looked bad too just not as bad as Alec
@@KaeMaiden lol okay that’s your opinion
@@merccodcompetitiveplayer2184 Wait, you think what you're saying isn't an opinion?
Honestly, I would've liked to know what that guy's policy proposal on homelessness is. It kinda feels like any time the participants get into a challenging "meat-and-potatoes" conversation about hard issues, the moderator cuts them off in the name of "neutrality."
I feel like Destiny needed to verbally distance himself from Alec in the conversation, saying something like he doesn’t agree with him or views him as patronising etc, it would’ve gathered even more support than what he already got from conservatives in that talk.
I think that comment about “if he’s like this now imagine what he was like a year ago” does that. Wouldn’t be helpful in the moment to constantly reaffirm that.
I know destiny said that he was told to not be confrontational on the show, but everyone else on the panel seemed more aggressive and had more to say to defend their points and Destiny not matching their intensity kinda makes him appear rather toothless imo. An okay appearance overall but i really hope he is just a bit more aggressive next time.
That's not true. Only Alec and the younger black dude was confrontational
Alec lives chronically online there’s no shot he isn’t. Dudes a literal NPC
Who the hell said they do it better in Singapore? They literally have no black clubs, what the hell was that person talking about?
I'm so used to seeing you behind the desk that when I saw the jubilee vid I was like "omg he has legs?!" 😂💀
It is wild that they even invited alec considering he can't argue without attacking.
our goal is to have a conversation and find middle ground, NOW, if you'd just like to sit down on these incredibly uncomfortable seats we'll see how this goes...
obvious set up is obvious...
I demand bean bag chairs!
I feel like an arm rest or a table would've helped. As well as interweaving the black conservatives and white liberals so that they feel more like a unified group when talking about problems of the U.S.
Especially considering destiny is probably the only left leaning person they've ever put on the show that has media training & a background in politics. Usually they put liberals or whatever that have never done public speaking & aren't trained on the talking points, meanwhile the conservatives have done 5 tours of the RNC & been using pol & the Donald for centuries
oh shit destiny is starting satisfactory
most exciting part of the video lowkey
cant wait to sit here and be confused and get distracted trying to figure out what the fuck is going on in the factory game hes playing
I’ve been waiting YEARS
When that clip of Alec’s critique of that chick’s hair was so buck wild it turned Destiny into Robert De Niro, that might’ve been the highlight of the whole Jubilee episode
it's cool that tiny waited with uploading his react cause i went to watch the original as i was so curious and now i'm excited to watch it again with my favourite streamer reacting to it 👍
The middle ground was everyone from both sides of the political spectrum getting together to shit on Alec
You think the guys over at Jubilee were contemplating putting destiny on a show where his goal is to nuke and rip the other person's argument apart? I mean you can tell looking in that we love seeing him absolutely eviscerate other people.
I am a conservative, you are one of the few liberals I love listening to. I don't always agree with you, but I am always willing to listen to your podcast.
"DONALD TRUMP SUPPORTS ANYTHING THATS BEST FOR HIM THAT IT , IF YOU NTHINK ANYTHING ELSE YOU ARE A DELUDED LOSER" lmaoooo exactly what i think. Destiny actually keeps it100
I'd love to see your mind reading tech there's this one girl I really like want to see how she feels about me could you let me use it?
Then he woulda been a democrat. Thats the easy way out in business and politics. Just stay quiet and go with the libs even if you don't agree with em, it's the best option if you don't want problems
Well he accidentally made life better for most Americans while he was looking out for himself. I miss low prices on gas and food. My 401k was better. Cost of rent lower. Median income and unemployment was amazing. No new wars. One of the best borders in decades. Brokered middle east peace. What didn't you like?
This is the case with any politician tho, so you should pick the candidate on what’s gonna benefit you not validate your emotions
Yo that hair comment from Alec is INSANE.
Only thing that was more insufreble then Alec, was Vegan Gains chiming in with his take on the whole thing.
I would pay anything to see Hasan in a conversation like this to backtrack all of his comments. Also, Vaush so we can get more of that plantation rizz
Welfare did not break up The Black Family. The family was already broken due to a number of reasons. Many of those black women that received welfare qualified because the man was already gone. It is documented that Black men have been abandoning their families as early as the 1930's. Black women could not apply for welfare at that time. It wasn't until the 60's when black women were able to get welfare and divorce the husbands that were already gone, so of course there was an increase in those areas. Everybody had welfare, why did welfare only "destroy" the black community? The argument that welfare was created to break up the black family is weak.
So blacks can’t be good fathers got it
That's a very long and convoluted way to say "LOL they ain't got no daddies"
Something tells me if there were a different talking point behind the same source, it would be immediately denounced as some sort of "white supremacist conspiracy"
Hey im conservative and yes some things you have said in this rubbed me the wrong way but in general you seem down to earth and can comprehend nuance more than other mainstream liberals. I used to be a classic liberal and can agree with some of your points. Thanks for being at the very least entertaining to watch and i hope to become a more open minded person here on out
Boy I'm tired of conservatives constantly prefacing everything they say almost apologetically. You don't have to prove yourself to any of these fuckwits especially destiny
Honestly dont think chandler said anything of real substance. None of the black conservatives honestly. Like equating old democrats to new democrats is so braindead. Just spitting out propaganda and bs, but because alec came off so annoying so many people in the original comments where siding with chandlers bs talking point. I also dont see calling someone a bootlicker as racist. I feel like black conservatives only see racism when its going against their parties. Bootlicker is not used in a racial context. Its literally just calling someone a cop or government kiss ass. Idk if thats just me though
Bro I'm from south central yall white liberals don't act any different then ones I see in trailer parks in Kansas. Malcom X said it best.
Everyone is a fucking liberal. The side that calls everyone PDFs, communists, lazy, entitled, dependent, & groomers whines when the slightest hostility is measured against them. Candace Owens & Vivek love doing this now, crying about how all the rAcIsM is coming from the left when someone says they're a dumb idiot that spews misinformation & obfuscation of statistics & data.
You sound like Alec ❤
Alec is like somebody transported a character from the party in Get Out to the real world.
The young black conservatives research basically consisted of old Ben Shapiro owning the libs videos, then progressed to PragerU videos.
No lies were told imo 😂😂😂😂
The person who called in to give his two cents could’ve kept it to himself.
Glad they let vaush brother on for this to inform people of how chill and ressonable that family can be
its so helpfull when vegain gains joins, because i was kinda wondering about the which side was ultimatly correct, and as soon as vegain gains gave his take, I immedietly knew that i should take the opposit one.
Vaush: "HE COPIED MY WHOLE FUCKING FLOW! WORD FOR WORD, BAR FOR BAR!"
On the first question from Jubilee u were the only one who immediately came with a clear answer. Props to u that u were so prepared or either just wired really well by G
i wonder what comment justaturtle will copy and paste this time
I wish to god that he would copy yours 😆 🙏
I wish destiny was a itty bit more combative throughout, like he was during the central park 5/Trump segment. But he still came off really well in the vid.
Too bad Alec dragged ts down
Fr i really wanted destiny to save the whole thing from alec. It just made white liberals look horribly.
Destiny letting so much slide. Shit was disappointing
Thanks @Destiny for posting this video about affirmative action / supreme court. Here are the viewpoints expressed by Supreme Court justices regarding affirmative action.
1) This case is about a group called Students for Fair Admissions (SFFA) who sued Harvard College and the University of North Carolina (UNC). They said that these schools were not fair in their admissions process because they were using race as a factor, which they believed was against the law. The law they referred to is the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment*.
2) The Equal Protection Clause is a part of the Fourteenth Amendment that says that every person should be treated equally by the law, no matter their race, color, or nationality. The SFFA believed that by considering race in admissions, Harvard and UNC were not treating all applicants equally.
3) The Court looked at the history of the Fourteenth Amendment and how it has been used in the past. They also looked at how other cases involving race and college admissions were handled. They found that while diversity in a student body can be a good thing, it must be handled in a way that treats all applicants fairly and equally.
4) The Court also looked at the idea of "strict scrutiny*". This is a way for the courts to look at laws to see if they are fair and necessary. If a law or policy is found to be unfair or unnecessary, it may not pass strict scrutiny and could be considered unconstitutional.
5) The Court found that the admissions systems at Harvard and UNC did not pass strict scrutiny. They said that the schools' use of race in admissions was not clear or specific enough, and it resulted in fewer admissions for certain racial groups. They also said that the schools' use of race in admissions seemed to stereotype certain racial groups, which is not allowed.
6) The Court also said that the schools' admissions systems did not have a clear end point. This means that there was no clear plan for when the schools would stop using race as a factor in admissions. This was another reason why the Court said the schools' admissions systems were not fair.
7) The Court decided that the admissions systems at Harvard and UNC were not fair and did not follow the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. They said that the schools' use of race in admissions was not clear, specific, or fair enough to be allowed.
8) However, the Court also said that schools can consider how race has affected an applicant's life. They can look at how an applicant's experiences with their race have shaped them and what they can bring to the school because of those experiences.
9) In the end, the Court decided that the admissions systems at Harvard and UNC were not fair and did not follow the law. They said that the schools' use of race in admissions was not allowed because it was not clear, specific, or fair enough.
10) So, the Court decided that the SFFA was right. They said that Harvard and UNC were not treating all applicants equally in their admissions process, which is against the law. They said that the schools needed to change their admissions systems to be fair to all applicants, no matter their race.
*The Equal Protection Clause is a part of the Fourteenth Amendment that says that every person should be treated equally by the law, no matter their race, color, or nationality.
*Strict scrutiny is a way for the courts to look at laws to see if they are fair and necessary. If a law or policy is found to be unfair or unnecessary, it may not pass strict scrutiny and could be considered unconstitutional.
I love how this is the real video I'm watching, because the original video isn't enough for me to watch on its own.
That cut to XG's song Left Right had me reeling. The crossover I never knew I needed.
16:00 I had a colleague in my Masters who was a Blind Black woman and during job interviews she attributed all of her non-offers and poor interviews to racism despite the fact that the interviewers were predominately either blind, black, or both. She also used to complain constantly when people would offer to help her around town assuming it was white people looking down on her and infantalizing her by calling her "honey", "baby", "sweetheart", etc.(That's the norm in Louisiana regardless of race or sex). What she failed to realize was that the city is just over half Black and many of the people she was complaining about assuming they were white were actually black but she assumed they were all being racist at her.
it reminded me of how growin' up once the internet & Social Media blew up when I was in High School some of my black friends would freak out about security followin' them at the boardwalk and attribute it to racism ('cause that's what they saw online) but the boardwalk's policy is for security to keep an eye on the youngest people there at the time and to prioritize groups of young people; the city's 60% black so just followin' black people wouldn't make much sense and would just waste time & resources. But people see it online as a problem elsewhere for people they consider themselves connected to and want to bring that tribal bullshit down here.
Its pretty clear that you don't remember much of things from before the internet. Black people being wary of racism from authority was definitely not from the internet and very likely would have continued even if there never was any internet.
@@Theyungcity23 I didn't say it was solely because of the internet, only that it wasn't a big deal here since black people aren't the minority here.
I love it when an elderly black woman calls me baby or honey. It literally hits so different 😩😩.
all the fact checks for the black guy in the red shirt were like 100% accurate. that guy studied b4 this debate, everyone else just had vaguely remembering stats
Love how he wore a red shirt and destiny wore a blue shirt since they were the most knowledgeable for their sides. We love unintentional polarity 😤
lmaoo@@declanm2783
Woah August is killing this editing lately
popcorn for this
The biggest take away from all of this is Destiny’s posture is prefect
So what's that "doesn't even look black" argument about even? Isn't systemic racism about how the system ends up screwing black people regardless of how they're perceived individually? it's just overt racism when a person doesn't take you for a job cuz you look or don't look black. What's with the constant conflation of the two?
The lack of self awareness was staggering. At least we can disregard anything that racist has to say.
@@noctyd9322 How was he racist exactly? i'll wait 😊
@@pixelbath2131 by literally judging someone by their skin color. Hope you weren't on the edge of your seat too long
@@pixelbath2131 He said so many racist things, but the main thing the worst thing he said IMO was how he needs to help people. He’s not better than me just because he’s white, he’s in absolutely no position to help me.
@@pixelbath2131judging someone by their "racial" traits is a big one. As an African American, continually disrespecting us is a second one.
I dig your choice of mic and headphones. I hate it how no body realizes that you DON'T need a freakin SM7... in-fact SM7 needs extra gain from whatever preamp you got. Dig your style bro, it shows that you research everything.
Clarence Thomas never went to Harvard, he went to Yale. And when he graduated he said it was hard for him to find work because employers only believed he received his degree because of affirmative action, so it might have helped but it also worked against him when it really mattered. He graduated from Yale law and has no job offers from major firms.
Maybe I need to be regailed on the CP5 incident, but it seemed to me years ago after reading the evidence and the interrogation footage that they were involved within the group causing damage and nearly beating/raping a woman to death. Not necessarily guilty but not nearly as innocent as that atrocious Netflix doc depicted I really don't want to believe that a group of pre teens (excluding Antron because he wasn't a minor) would be capable of rape.
No they have been DNA exonerated. The confessions where all fake. The guy who did it was a serial rapist who’s DNA matched that found on scene
You are correct. The arresting officer was black and has a completely different take than the Netflix documentary.
Awesome, destiny is playing the 3d factorio, hope he gets to manufacturing computers.
That title sequence after the “fuck your face with facts and logic” is hilarious
The XG Left Right sample @ 1:59 was a pleasant surprise
Last comment is wild and honestly kinda insulting. Colorism and featurism are real issues absolutely, but the whole point of understanding racism is comprehending its a complex issue and not a single value slider. Having lighter skin and curlier hair did not stop rodney king from being beat half to death for no reason. When youre dealing with racism and experiences with racism, youre dealing with tons of factors plus individualized random experiences and how people relate to them. I haven't experienced much in the way of racism in my life... Because of my social class. The way i talk, thing i like, comport and such, they benefit my own life. Yet at the same time, thats only my interpretation of things. Many people have probably thought racist things about me, and vocalized them with me none the wiser, and that couldve affected my life. But i cant really know...
It’s also stupid bc he’s just saying “if she didn’t look the way she does, then people wouldn’t think she is what she is” like okay whether it’s true or not doesn’t matter considering she looks that way. It’s not like she chooses to have curled hair.
It wasn’t for no reason but whatever
Okay Alec wasn't fully wrong about the light skin girl. The treatment of light skin women is different and the affects of racism manifest slightly different. However, she is very obviously mixed. I don't know what the fudge that man was smoking with his comment. I agree her hair makes it the most obvious (I made that comment myself when I watched the video and she said what she said) but she is not close enough to white passing for her to walk around and be accepted as white
It's an absurd comment. Racism and "institutional" racism are absurdly complex issues, and trying to flatten them down to a sliding scale where color alone determines racial experience is absurd, and ironically somewhat racist. I am a black guy, thankfully I haven't experienced that much of racism and God willing won't in the future. That has everything to do with class, and little to do with color. What Alec has done is flatten a complicated and nuanced issue into a slider value because his smug self can't stand to actually engage with the world and he's looking for any reason to invalidate what someone says when they disagree with him instead of actually discussing the issue.
@chillin5703 I see your point. I don't know if I'll go as far as to say it's absurd. It is squishing a complex issue into a small box, but the degree of racism (and forms of it) you experience can be dependent on your skin tone. You could say it's closer to colorism. I don't think it's a class issue at all, besides maybe your economic class influencing your environment. I experienced racism in both high and low income areas. I definitely agree though, that Alec was saying it as a way to brush off homegirls' viewpoint instead of engaging with the idea that not everyone experiences the same racism based on other facts besides how "white passing" they are. It's just ignorant liberal shit in my opinion, lol
@@jadenj.4753 they can be influenced by your skin color, and all factors being equal there are definitely correlative trends. But all factors are usually not equal. A lightskin girl from the hood is probably staying in the hood while a black-black middle class man will probably stay middle class. What has a greater effect on each life experience...?
The Vaush idolizer in all his Hawaiian glamour sat at every opportunity lmao
16:23 ahh, shame this bit was cut out haha. Would have loved to hear Destiny's answer to the ''would you ever do a deep dive into Russel Brands videos'' question. Was anybody watching live at the time and saw his answer to this?
Alec acts so hard yet walks out in a Hawaiian shirt and a pikachu shirt lol. Tell me you’re spy without telling me you’re spy
Nice to see Vaush do some IRL content.
I love Destiny's little music backed spoken word bit at the end of the Jubilee video. Was that planned you think, or totally off the cuff?
Satisfactory Arc!
@ 1:10:03 As insufferable as that guy was to watch, I agree with him 100% on that point. Me being black, I thought the same thing when I watched the video. That's just a white girl with curly hair. Even with her hair as it is in the video I would never consider her black if I saw her out on the street.
Thank you. CLEARLY biracial/multiracial. Of course you're not having a Black experience ma'am.
Also both people were wrong about 'giving money to people in a lottery cannot hurt them' like literally lottery winners almost all declare bankruptcy, giving extra money to a drug addict can lead to death, giving money in a way that incentivizes certain harmful actions can hurt people(which was what the black conservative's point was supposed to be). The problem is that public policy VERY OFTEN goes awry due to unintended consequences.
The British famously wanted to eliminate cobras from one of their colonies and put a bounty on dead cobra bodies, SEEMS LIKE A GOOD POLICY RIGHT? well people started farming cobras in the colony and the population exploded. Similarly, giving additional welfare to single mother households who have less ability to go out and get a job SEEMS like a great and logical policy BUT you have financially incentivized avoidance of marriage and lack of the father's presence, it's really really unfortunate how that turned out but importantly we learn from it today AND it wasn't motivated by racism.
It was. LBJ was a staunch racist and segregationist. Known. He’s the architect of the great societies act. He has a famous quote that he’s gonna get these hard Rs to vote democrat the next 200 years.
Wouldn't that also be connected to poor education? I think for lottery winners it's more than just bad finance skills. People flock to prey on them. Once closed friends and even family members could turn on you because many people feel like the lottery winner didn't deserve it. There were even cases I read where the financial advisor was even in on it.
@@meowateyourchips7417 yes it is poor education about finance and poor experience. People without experience handling large sums unfortunately do so pretty badly(people call this poverty mindset sometimes). Mostly this just means the money won't help them but in some cases the money can hurt them. Im not sure how you would address this in policy though... It's a hard problem
@@davidsoto2187 that's all factually untrue. First, I will agree that LBJ did say and message some racist things, but you do realize that almost everything you could cite about him is well documented to be parts of strategic political game. For example, LBJ memorized region specific pronunciations of the N word to use with southern Democrats so that he could tell them that the several major pieces of civil rights legislation he passed would be palatable as he framed them as 'not really doing anything substantial' and to ensure them they were just superficial things meant to appease black people to get them passed. He then passed EXTREMELY effective civil rights legislation and immediately lost support from southern Democrats and hemmoraged WAY more white southern voters from the democratic party than he gained in black voters. No matter what I think we can all agree LBJ was exceedingly calculated as a politician and realized he basically lost the south for the Democrats because of the bills he passed no? Given all this answering the question 'should we believe that he believed the racist things he said when he was trying to pass leg OR should we believe what he otherwise said' the answer is clear. Obviously this whole issue is fraught but calling him a racist has not reasonable logic behind it unless you think he was just the stupidest racist in history and accidentally fucked his own party out of a huge section of it's base in order to aggressively expand voting and commercial rights dramatically for the black people he hated.
It's also common for athletes and the like. Basically any time someone comes into big money.
More often than not, I mean. Not always.
Satisfactory Arc? Let's gooo
what did he say about Russell Brand's videos? It was cut from the video, any stream-watchers able to inform me?
1:10:00 Destiny goes full Robert DeNiro
The comments on the original video are comedy gold
Oh yes! The level of confusion there 🤣
@@tuukka1827if you got confused by everyone shitting on alec then you should try going to school
That at home safe space comeback plus that I wish I would said that energy😢. What a sick burn😎.
I wonder what a destiny debate with chandler would look like lol.