Hi, I've seen some people on Reddit having issues with getting the system to post with varying degrees of success. Either they couldn't get the system to post with EXPO but were able to otherwise and some were unable to post at all. As I'm looking for a board myself and it seems like every manufacturer has one issue or the other with the 600 chipset, I'm unsure which board to get. How has your experience been?
Hello, i have installed the board and some pcie 3.0 game capture which is installed on my b650 Tomahawk. But i have an issue, before i upgrade into b650 Tomahawk, i have MSI B450 A PRO MAX whic is installed the same pcie game capture. In MSI B450 A PRO MAX, my game capture run at pcie bandwith x4/x4 thats mean the pcie_2 in motherboard run in x4 mode. But today, when i upgrade into B650 TOMAHAWK which is in spesification have PCIE 4.0 X4 yes, but when i install my pcie game capture, it only run in x2/x4 mode (x2 mode)... just take a look into my screenshot below. My Question is, how to get x4 mode bandwith in PCIE_2 lane, because i not install any M.2 slot.
They couldn’t even bother to offer heatsinks for all the NVME. Those boards looks more and more like the 100ish budget but not barebone no heatsinks even for the VRMs. Just a side note, I was really apprehensive at the beginning of the video when you had the motherboard close to your monitor. I managed to give a nice scratch to an expensive monitor before, but that was while tilting the case trying to connect a nasty A-RGB connector.
No GPU's will need Gen 5 PCI-e Slots for a very very long time. Even the Top end 4090 Cards dont even use 45% of Gen 4 PCI-e X16 Bandwidth (actually most of the new cards from 3090+ are only PCI-e 4.0 x8) Not even RTX 5XXX Cards will use more than 50% of PCI-e 4.0 X16 Bandwidth, would need to run 2 cards on 1 slot with an Adapter to be able to come close to maxing out Gen 4 Bandwidth.
I have this board and just noticed something strange and annoying. The M.2_1 and M.2_2 slots are connected to the CPU directly whereas the M.2_3 slot is connected to the chip; from my understanding this means that NVMEs in slots 1 and 2 will run faster than NVMEs in slots 1 and 3. However, the thermal frozr shield is on the M.2_1 (fast) and M.2_3 (slower), instead of the M.2_1 and M.2_2 slots, why? Is this to allow room for use of the second pcie slot?
There seems to be 2 interesting and not crazy expensive B650 boards, about same price : this MSI Tomahawk and the Aorus Elite A comparison/review of both would be welcome !
Buy that good system Just Stop buying burgers / takeaway coffee everyday $10 x 5 = $50 or $20x5 = $100a week x 4 weeks = 400 month your New Awesome MB or ram kit in 2 months your New series13 i5 Cpu Make a sanwich cook your own burger its quicker better & cheaper long term .
This board looks like it should cost about $80-$100 that has barebones features. But what do you expect from the same companies that have been price gouging GPU's for the past few years now doing the same with motherboards.
Gidday from Thailand.. Just fumbled on yur channel flicking through YT on my tele as there's nothing to watch on Thai sat TV.. Like yur work.. Days of building a cheap PC are over by the look of things. Up to $1k for a CPU; $500 for a budget motherboard; $1500 for a graphics card, then a case, memory, PSU.. ouch.. Easily $5k & an empty wallet.. I used to build pc's for friends & work colleagues usually around $500-$800 for the good stuff.. I'd ask their budget and get the best gear I could find for them. My last build was an Intel system @ $1500, 3 years ago and last year an AMD AM4 system at $600 for my daughter.. How times have changed.. I won't be upgrading anytime soon unless parts fail..
how is your mobo handling the 16 core cpu? is this b650 enough for 7950x or should i opt for x670? Note: I don't plan on overclocking. I'm planning a 16 core ryzen for 3d programs and productivity
I still don't get the difference between B650 and X670 in AMD AM5 motherboards, The only thing I see is more high value lol. Absolutely nothing justifies buying the X670
Its a very very difficult main board... alot of problems after i build my new pc.The bios system is sh*t cant boot correctly dont recognise the system parts i can tell more for it but its enough for now
Hi, I would like to ask about the boot time of the MSI B650 Tomahawk board. Is it true that every time I turn on the PC, I can get to Windows only in a minute? thank you
The motherboard requires a 2x8 pin connection for the CPU. I'm asking because many motherboards work with a single 8pin. Can this motherboard also work with a single 8pin? If it is not, I'll get the gigabyte version that works with a single 8 pin.
@@GearSeekersI'm sorry sir, I'm not yelling I'm just asking from you that should I pair ryzen 9 7950x3d with this motherboard or with b650e pg riptide wifi or with gigabyte b650 aorus elite ax ?pls tell sir this is my humble request to you pls sir
It’s sad to say that motherboards these days are outrageously expensive. I truly don’t understand why? AMD completely missed the mark on this latest CPU release.
I bought one back then, still have it, still using it. Truth be told, I quickly regretted buying that thing, crazy overrated : ATX board with a SINGLE M.2 slot (what?!!!!), useless overbuilt VRMs for budget CPUs, cheap-looking VRM heatsink, garbage-tier RGB lighting*, no ARGB header whatsoever... The B550 boards were far superior in comparison. Later bought an MSI B550M PRO VDH for much cheaper : far superior board overall. *extremely limited color selection, harsh lighting, no BIOS control i.e. MSI bloatware required
I went with the tomahawk clearly but I was considering the Tuf gaming, ultimately it was the extra sata ports which pushed me over to the MSI board. From what I read the Asus board loses 2 sata ports when using the bottom NVME drive slot, which is a big deal for me, 2.5 inch storage has always been dirt cheap. So over the years I've collected a few 4tb SSD's for the price of 1-2tb NVME drives. I honestly love the motherboard, CPU overclocks like a champ on it, and I was able to get absurdly good ram timings on the board as well.
Sad but msi mag b650 tomahawk wi fi is full of problems. Most of them are VRM , RAM - CPU voltage problems. Just sell and buy another motherboard from other brand..
i love the tomahawk mobo but the fact its missing the 3rd m.2 shield heatsink is cheap and they numbered them is even worse... so, if you were able to get get an extra heatsink and it would look ugly unless it had "3" on it... pretty disappointing, cheap and ugly if you as me... specially with that asking price you think it would for sure come with that 3rd heatsink... X570 mobo's are cheaper and come with the 3rd heatsink... 🤨😑😶🙄🤔 GTFO MSI with you new high pricing!!!
yes, yes i am... lol 1st world problems eh but to be honest this is selling for $380cnd(plus tax at the moment)... so if i'm paying $400 bucks for a mobo that should be half the price(b550)... then yes, something like that actually matters to me... even the x570 tomahawk is cheaper...just saying...
@@_clemens_ at 400 bucks I would rant also that this board has ONLY 3 M2 slots even before complaining about the lack of one of the M2 heatsinks. Poor value compared to the old B550 Tomahawk (which unfortunately sported only 2 M2 slots, both with heatsink, tho) that was a very solid and complete choice when it came out years ago.
@@stamosreal no it doesn’t. You can very much still build AM4 at a budget like the OP said. There’s no rush to build on a new platform right now when prices are they way they are right now.
I like your videos but it doesn't help with how actually good it is as it doesn't show you actually trying it out and seeing how stable it is, how the bios is, how stable after oc etc.
Banger of a motherboard overview fams. Keep up the hard work
Recently pulled the trigger on buying one of these, as the price was $219. Seems like a real solid offering from MSI.
That’s the board I went with , I wanted the carbon board but that tomahawk looked like best bang for the buck and goes well with my set up
Hi,
I've seen some people on Reddit having issues with getting the system to post with varying degrees of success. Either they couldn't get the system to post with EXPO but were able to otherwise and some were unable to post at all.
As I'm looking for a board myself and it seems like every manufacturer has one issue or the other with the 600 chipset, I'm unsure which board to get.
How has your experience been?
Hello, i have installed the board and some pcie 3.0 game capture which is installed on my b650 Tomahawk. But i have an issue, before i upgrade into b650 Tomahawk, i have MSI B450 A PRO MAX whic is installed the same pcie game capture. In MSI B450 A PRO MAX, my game capture run at pcie bandwith x4/x4 thats mean the pcie_2 in motherboard run in x4 mode. But today, when i upgrade into B650 TOMAHAWK which is in spesification have PCIE 4.0 X4 yes, but when i install my pcie game capture, it only run in x2/x4 mode (x2 mode)... just take a look into my screenshot below.
My Question is, how to get x4 mode bandwith in PCIE_2 lane, because i not install any M.2 slot.
Maybe there is some bios option for selecting the bandwith?
Thank you Klaire & Nick for the overviews !
Crazy how expensive these boards are, this one doesn't even have any RGB on it!
who wants rgb on mobo its dumb. rgb is meant for fans, ram, extensions.
Thanks god it doesn't have any rgb on it.
So bad lucky 10-12 year old little girls can't use this one to build a PC with pretty lights like a Barbie Toy.
The B550 version of this in UK can be had for £149.99. In two years, the price increases are crazy.
I commented on the extortionate costs when they reviewed the Mortar board. High early adopter tax.
And the B450 was 99 lmao
And right now you can get this board in the UK for £189.99 and its way better than the b550 version.
@@ConnorH2111 This comment was written 8 months back. Prices change.
Budget has been demoted to trash, and middle tier is now the new budget.
My i3 12100f would disagree. Maybe no budget for AMD, but Intel budget builds are totally possible.
@@JayWithAJ For budget games, on 1080p 60Hz
@@JayWithAJ eh, both have budget. The ryzen 5 5500 is a great cpu for $99. Then intel has the i3s and i5 non ks
@@AndreMiguelLopes69 1080p, yes. But I have an RX6600, so all modern titles are running over 100fps, most over 120fps
@@JM-kn9dh had considered the 5500, but it's the final Gen AM4, so no upgrade path. Plus no DDR5 support
They couldn’t even bother to offer heatsinks for all the NVME. Those boards looks more and more like the 100ish budget but not barebone no heatsinks even for the VRMs. Just a side note, I was really apprehensive at the beginning of the video when you had the motherboard close to your monitor. I managed to give a nice scratch to an expensive monitor before, but that was while tilting the case trying to connect a nasty A-RGB connector.
No GPU's will need Gen 5 PCI-e Slots for a very very long time.
Even the Top end 4090 Cards dont even use 45% of Gen 4 PCI-e X16 Bandwidth (actually most of the new cards from 3090+ are only PCI-e 4.0 x8)
Not even RTX 5XXX Cards will use more than 50% of PCI-e 4.0 X16 Bandwidth, would need to run 2 cards on 1 slot with an Adapter to be able to come close to maxing out Gen 4 Bandwidth.
I have this board and just noticed something strange and annoying. The M.2_1 and M.2_2 slots are connected to the CPU directly whereas the M.2_3 slot is connected to the chip; from my understanding this means that NVMEs in slots 1 and 2 will run faster than NVMEs in slots 1 and 3. However, the thermal frozr shield is on the M.2_1 (fast) and M.2_3 (slower), instead of the M.2_1 and M.2_2 slots, why? Is this to allow room for use of the second pcie slot?
5:02 bro for one sec i thought that was my gpu lmao; scared the heck out of me.
I normally don't like the look of msi boards but that, I like.
a gear seekers video perfect way to end the night
There seems to be 2 interesting and not crazy expensive B650 boards, about same price : this MSI Tomahawk and the Aorus Elite
A comparison/review of both would be welcome !
msi has more usb ports if I'm not mistaken
I got the b450 tomahawk in 2019 fir $130 and this b650 is now double that price!
So glad I won a PC earlier this year because these motherboard prices are outrageous! Excellent video fams.
Buy that good system Just Stop buying burgers / takeaway coffee everyday $10 x 5 = $50 or $20x5 = $100a week
x 4 weeks = 400 month your New Awesome MB or ram kit in 2 months your New series13 i5 Cpu
Make a sanwich cook your own burger its quicker better & cheaper long term .
Bought this board. Really excited
How is it
How is it
this one vs Asrock b650 steel legend, which one would you recommend more?
I've found my board slow to post but performs very well nice after. my 7800xt and 7900xt perform flawlessly.
This board looks like it should cost about $80-$100 that has barebones features. But what do you expect from the same companies that have been price gouging GPU's for the past few years now doing the same with motherboards.
watching this in 1.5x is kinda refreshing
Gidday from Thailand.. Just fumbled on yur channel flicking through YT on my tele as there's nothing to watch on Thai sat TV..
Like yur work..
Days of building a cheap PC are over by the look of things.
Up to $1k for a CPU; $500 for a budget motherboard; $1500 for a graphics card, then a case, memory, PSU.. ouch.. Easily $5k & an empty wallet..
I used to build pc's for friends & work colleagues usually around $500-$800 for the good stuff.. I'd ask their budget and get the best gear I could find for them. My last build was an Intel system @ $1500, 3 years ago and last year an AMD AM4 system at $600 for my daughter..
How times have changed.. I won't be upgrading anytime soon unless parts fail..
I use 7950X3D on B650 Tomahawk wifi. You reccomend me to update BİOS to the last version?
how is your mobo handling the 16 core cpu? is this b650 enough for 7950x or should i opt for x670?
Note: I don't plan on overclocking. I'm planning a 16 core ryzen for 3d programs and productivity
would a b650 motherboard with no pcie 5.0 for gpu be something to be concerned about with newer gpu's
Nope
I still don't get the difference between B650 and X670 in AMD AM5 motherboards, The only thing I see is more high value lol. Absolutely nothing justifies buying the X670
Its a very very difficult main board... alot of problems after i build my new pc.The bios system is sh*t cant boot correctly dont recognise the system parts i can tell more for it but its enough for now
Should have updated the bios before assemble
Got this board yesterday
1:55 its 12v analog rgb header and not 12pin analag rgb header. Btw loads of love from INDIA
Hi, I would like to ask about the boot time of the MSI B650 Tomahawk board. Is it true that every time I turn on the PC, I can get to Windows only in a minute? thank you
did you find an answer to this? I beleive a bios update resolved this
@@Haddley333 yes, BIOS update resolved the issue with long boot times.
thank god, i'm getting this motherboard today thanks for the update @@modeer1422
Too expensive boards stop sales of all other components too.
The motherboard requires a 2x8 pin connection for the CPU. I'm asking because many motherboards work with a single 8pin. Can this motherboard also work with a single 8pin? If it is not, I'll get the gigabyte version that works with a single 8 pin.
U cant use whit 8 pin the 2 8 ping is more for 7900x and 7950x overclock
I have the same board and 7600x and i use only 8 ping cpu power
CAN I PAIR RYZEN 9 7950X3D WITH THIS B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI MOTHERBOARD
Why are you yelling?
@@GearSeekersI'm sorry sir, I'm not yelling I'm just asking from you that should I pair ryzen 9 7950x3d with this motherboard or with b650e pg riptide wifi or with gigabyte b650 aorus elite ax ?pls tell sir this is my humble request to you pls sir
@@mastertechie6093 all B650 motherboard is compatible for 7950x3d
@@mastertechie6093 yes it can
is this good for a 7700X?
sure
What would you say is the best mid range CPU to go in the current market?
13600K or Ryzen 5 7600
@@GearSeekers decided on 7700x 💪
I can find it for 350 now in Aussie dollars
sexy board for real. do the m.2 have thermal pads too?
It’s sad to say that motherboards these days are outrageously expensive. I truly don’t understand why? AMD completely missed the mark on this latest CPU release.
Bigger power delivery for the power hungry chips, plus DDR5. Granted that is not all of the cost increases but a large part of it.
Covid-tax still...I'll wait a few more months and upgrade maybe before June tax time
with 14+2+1 80Amp power stages i think it will easily handle the ryzen 9 cpus that it release in 2027/28!
Looking at a $300 board for a 13700k build. Was thinking about this one in Z790 and DDR5. Not a good idea?
I just bought the Z790 tomahawk DDR5 with 13700k
@Tessie Let me know it goes!
does it have RGB lights?
No and RGB is overrated asf
Budget is used now
Paying 50 dollars more for anything worth having is pretty legit
Please Review the B650 Carbon 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌😎
Aorus Elite Ax is the last stand.
remember B450 tomahawk...what a great time that was
I bought one back then, still have it, still using it.
Truth be told, I quickly regretted buying that thing, crazy overrated : ATX board with a SINGLE M.2 slot (what?!!!!), useless overbuilt VRMs for budget CPUs, cheap-looking VRM heatsink, garbage-tier RGB lighting*, no ARGB header whatsoever...
The B550 boards were far superior in comparison.
Later bought an MSI B550M PRO VDH for much cheaper : far superior board overall.
*extremely limited color selection, harsh lighting, no BIOS control i.e. MSI bloatware required
Yeah, I put an MD 1700, 2700, bad at 3700 in that board…. Still running the 3700 X in it.
Will it bottleneck 7900x with RTX 4070?
no
Asus TUF GAMING B650-PLUS WIFI
Vs
MSI MAG b650 tomahawk wifi
I went with the tomahawk clearly but I was considering the Tuf gaming, ultimately it was the extra sata ports which pushed me over to the MSI board.
From what I read the Asus board loses 2 sata ports when using the bottom NVME drive slot, which is a big deal for me, 2.5 inch storage has always been dirt cheap. So over the years I've collected a few 4tb SSD's for the price of 1-2tb NVME drives.
I honestly love the motherboard, CPU overclocks like a champ on it, and I was able to get absurdly good ram timings on the board as well.
Guys, what monitor is Nick using ?
Probably the MSI Optix MPG321UR-QD, he reviewed it
@@SuspiciousGirafe thank you)
Sad but msi mag b650 tomahawk wi fi is full of problems. Most of them are VRM , RAM - CPU voltage problems. Just sell and buy another motherboard from other brand..
i love the tomahawk mobo but the fact its missing the 3rd m.2 shield heatsink is cheap and they numbered them is even worse... so, if you were able to get get an extra heatsink and it would look ugly unless it had "3" on it... pretty disappointing, cheap and ugly if you as me... specially with that asking price you think it would for sure come with that 3rd heatsink... X570 mobo's are cheaper and come with the 3rd heatsink... 🤨😑😶🙄🤔 GTFO MSI with you new high pricing!!!
Are you really ranting about...a M.2 heatsink? Bro...
yes, yes i am... lol 1st world problems eh but to be honest this is selling for $380cnd(plus tax at the moment)... so if i'm paying $400 bucks for a mobo that should be half the price(b550)... then yes, something like that actually matters to me... even the x570 tomahawk is cheaper...just saying...
@@_clemens_ at 400 bucks I would rant also that this board has ONLY 3 M2 slots even before complaining about the lack of one of the M2 heatsinks.
Poor value compared to the old B550 Tomahawk (which unfortunately sported only 2 M2 slots, both with heatsink, tho) that was a very solid and complete choice when it came out years ago.
who else saw the glitch at 5:01
hopefully intel has cheaper motherboards AMD is turning into what intel used to be before Ryzen came out.
Did you look at new Intel board, same price as AMD but because 13 series CPU can run on previous board, people forgot about that
Next Gen Intel boards arent any cheaper.
Who would ve thought that within 4 years Intel would become the budget option when it comes to pc. Amd has gone rogue
Am4 still better budget for now ($150 5600, $200 5700x)
@@Oz-gv5fzIif you're building a new system now it makes little sense to go am4
@@stamosreal no it doesn’t. You can very much still build AM4 at a budget like the OP said. There’s no rush to build on a new platform right now when prices are they way they are right now.
@@RJBuildsPcs Build am4 now, you ll be locking yourself out of features that will be the norm a year from now. It's a dead end
@@RJBuildsPcs There's no reason to build a new AMD system if on a budget, only Intel makes sense.
I like your videos but it doesn't help with how actually good it is as it doesn't show you actually trying it out and seeing how stable it is, how the bios is, how stable after oc etc.
ok
барыга😂
nothing uses gen 5 pcie. Who cares about gen 5 right now?
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