Why B Teams Suck (and How to Fix Them)
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2020
- Reserves in Football Manager are typically overlooked. Yet, I get a load of questions about why they don’t seem to be doing what they should be doing for your FM side. Do B teams help with fitness? Do they help wonderkid development? Do FM reserves ever play games? Is it a glitch when they don’t? Enough questions, this video has the Football Manager answers. As they do.
Using reserve teams to organize your development and keep your team fit can actually have a huge impact on your FM save. That’s my way of saying in my escapades I should have made this video earlier for my Football Manager catalog. As always, if you have any B team questions about fitness and development and the other points I make in the video, I’m one comment away.
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The EFL trophy in England went from competitive, to being seen as a bit of a joke when they brought in the Prem U-23 teams. Lower league teams are forced to play a certain number of the starting 11 from their previous match because they weren't fielding full sides. Bradford subbed their goalkeeper after three minutes as the assistant manager said 'he had a poor first 45 seconds' to get round the rules!
Unfortunately the competition is pretty much dead in the water reputation wise. it’s a real shame, I have fond memories of the competition as I’m sure many people do. It seems it’s just become a way to justify large teams who have a huge reserve players and scoop up anybody who has potential just to stop other clubs from having them.
@@jamm6431 Agreed, it's a real shame. I remember watching Blackpool lift the then LDV Vans trophy at the Millennium Stadium when I was 10. Got to see them lift a trophy that teams at that level wanted to win, now even the final won't get many attendees.
Yep, B teams have completely killed the EFL trophy unfortunately. Sooner they’re gone the better
@CookieWithACat it was a similar experience for me, I remember my dad taking me to watch Wrexham beat Chester and then eventually lift the also then named LDV trophy
I hope the rumours that were going around about scraping the national league and making league 2 into a north and south division and relegation feeding into the vanarama north and south division comes to fruition and with the extra teams in the football league they have the common sense to reorganise the EFL trophy and make it a respectable competition once again rather than a day out with the kids for prem and championship clubs.
This is the most rambly one yet lol Hugely helpful though, I was wondering why my Dortmund side was such a mess.
The memes are strong
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In Portugal some B teams play in the 2nd division, a very competitive league. I think that's why Portugal is developing more youngsters with better qualitiy. It's a good example of how B teams can be really good in the game.
Same situation in the Netherlands, clubs like Ajax, PSV and AZ have their B (or 'Jong') teams in the 2nd division since a few years, where the youngsters face much tougher opposition than they did against the B teams of clubs like ADO Den Haag.
B teams are beneficial to countries with a smaller amount of clubs like yours, but there is no need for them in England.
Irmao a primeira divisao de portugal tem 2 times e nao e nem um pouco competitiva nem imagino a segunda. Liga de merda
@@antoniosaldanha4500 bem por isso é que é bom informar-se, uma vez que não há ligas iguais mesmo no próprio país, a segunda liga é a liga mais competitiva em Portugal.
@@joaocarlosferreirabarbosa4381 ok sendo ou nao a liga mais competitiva de portugal ainda sim e uma merda. Se juntar 11 pessoas aleatorias na rua conseguem ganhar essa ligazinha
The Nepenthez line killed me 😂 keep up the great work Z!
quit the info and just get to the damn jokes
Exactly, who tf is Shoo shoo? Zealand don't change your personality or how you deliver content to please people. There are many fans like myself who don't mind your aweful cheesy jokes. I prefer it actually, makes you unique. Keep it up man (or if u feel like pleasing who want to get straight to the point, include timestamps in your vids)
Extra reasons to keep around a reserve level player: Home grown in nation/club if it is a talented youngster you bought. Two smaller ones: More control over their development , better coaching staff and facilities then where loan them too (less likely if B team). Note on having them in main team and available for reserves, this cuts down their training by one day as they are then playing for the reserves and it puts more pressure on your coaches lowering general coaching quality (depending on amount of coaches you have). So that is not a full positive. Also important to note irrespective of B team or reserves is that player's don't develop from playing time before the age of 18 so if you have good coaching and facilities might not want to loan them out.
One reason to have youth players play in the Reservers or youth squad is so that they will become "home grown" at club/nation.
one handy thing though: wages in the reserve team dont count towards your wage budget (at least in germany). so if you cant pay like a signing bonus just move a high wage player briefly to the reserves and voila
I think it’s because Bayern’s b team and all the b teams can make it to the 3rd liga
One thing that's also worth mentioning is Homegrown players, you shouldn't loan a player out if you want them to be an HGC (if you only want them to be an HGN you can loan them out to any club in the same country as you), players dont count as being in your team during a loan spell, while they do if they're playing for your B/U21 team.
This is why I don't loan some youth players out
I am playing a Braga save. It has 4 sub-teams; Braga B, under 23s, under 19s and under 19s-B.
I know its crazy.
How?
Interesting, I remember Braga having a lot of great youth propspects in the past. Maybe it is down to this structure.
@@thomasschraubt7497 yeah they had alot
@@Dzoni i don't even know how. I decided to make them all functional and they were giving me alot of youth prospects i wasn't even buying young players anymore i was just raising them and selling after 2 years.
I messed around with an Argentinian team and same they have 3 different B teams
I never paid much attention to reserve teams in the past, until my current save in Peru. The rules in this league are absolutely bonkers, and one of them is that your senior team gets extra points in the table at the end of the season if your reserve team finishes top-2 in the reserves competition. Two extra points for 1st place, and one extra point for 2nd place. Considering that I'm even on points right now with one of my rivals half way through the season, this particular league makes it worth it to keep the reserves team in good shape.
Werder Bremen got a B team (Bremen II) and a C team/U21 team (Bremen III), both of which are in the league system. Can both climb up to 3. Liga (div 3) but not further than that. I use both of them and honestly the Bremen III side is amazing, as I can put a bunch of 17-18 year olds playing in a fairly high level league, developing their abilitys alot in many cases.
Jong Ajax,PSV,AZ and Utrecht play in the second division because some clubs went bankrupt and they had to fill the division.
That was one reason, another reason was that there was a general consensus in the Netherlands around 2012/13 that we were doing something wrong in terms of youth development (following bad results of Dutch clubs in European football and a disastrous EURO 2012), which is why the experiment with Jong teams in the 2nd division was started.
@@thesacrisant doesn't look like a very good choice, struggling a whole lot
Club Brugge U23 for the same reason has been allowed into the Belgian 2nd level this season. Still , only 8 teams in the 2nd lvl while 18 in the first. And they are not doing well , it's not really a U23 team , it's a U19 team , they are between 16 and max 19 years old. Better allowed them on the 3th level , but lvl 3 lvl 9 were endend in october due to covid just like last season. So they as only of the youngsters in Belgium can play offical games.
There was a big discussion in The Netherlands about adding the Jong (which means young btw) to the professional football league pyramid which led to some clubs being added to the pyramid and some staying in the Jong league. To add to the confusion we're adding a U21 league from next year on
Van Geel Out
This game is unbelievable. I watch zealand's every video and I still suck.
After finishing 1pts short on the title in the vanarama national league south with Dulwich Hamlet, I won the final playoff match 7-0. thanks to your tips Z
I have a couple uses for my B team.
1. To get the final couple years in for my youth players to get them home grown to the club before I loan them out.
2. To store my players for loan (either youth I'm hoping grow or players I couldn't sell and have settled for loaning out to get them off my wages).
3. To store players I either intend to sell or am in the process of selling especially to unsettle ones who think they should be in the first team.
It's generally a graveyard and a mess, the coaches and amount I check in on those players is minimal. But it's a good place to drop all players you're unsure about in to, if I want to know where to trim the team I can just put them all in one place and clear through it. So when you look at your youth team and first team you get a clear look of how those two sides really are.
With Perak FA, I can beat all teams in Malaysia Super League but I can't beat my own B Team 😭
JDT?
Playing in Spain is soooo fun because the Spanish second division has a lot more quality than other nations's that allow B teams in the second tier
Is it the only top 10 league with this? I'm German and I know it's not possible here but elsewhere?
Can the Spanish 2nd teir have a full league of B teams with Barcalona and real madrid B are the top teams and various B teams and let's say Barca B win the league and the other B teams like Sevilla athletico, Athletico Madrid B, Villareal B and Malaga B are in the playoffs The 3 teams relagated from La liga real valladolid Huesca and And Villareal get relagated does that mean there B teams get relagated to the 3rd division to fill up the spots in the league and can C teams enter the 2nd division.
This is not totally unrelated .. but every year in my PL save .. I usually make the U23 as strong as League 2 or even 1 in course of like 3 or 4 seasons i guess .. first of all i can afford it .. second and the most important one .. the HGC .. i have to be ready for the inevitable .. so i do loan out players that i'm not quite sure will make it .. and sometimes the 5 star potentials as well cause it's better for their development or they're pushing for one .. but i try to keep the good ones and make them HGC .. and of course i play them here and there in Cup games and occasionally in PL
SI really needs to look at boosting the training gains from just getting match time in the reserves. Because, yeah right now there's basically no reason to have them in the game at all other than to keep people from retiring too early. Players need to gain more from getting that match experience. Even a little boost would make them valuable enough to fill out a roster.
When you don’t have a b team and can’t ask for one but still watch
What club bruh?
Players in reserve teams do usually accumulate appearances and match sharpness even when those reserves play in a league that doesn't exist in the game. Reserve teams can make a good dumping ground for trialists and for under-22 players you weren't sure about but decided to sign for one year with an automatic extension option in case they turned out to thrive upon playing in big matches (or in case talented first-team players got poached or injured and you need to reinforce your first-team squad). Keeping down the size of the first-team squad means a lighter load on the coaching staff (helpful if you aren't allowed to sign many staff). Also, if first-team players throw a tantrum because you aren't playing them enough or they sulk and stop performing because you stymied their holy career development by rejecting a £6.75k offer from a slightly higher-reputation club at 11:30pm on transfer deadline day, dumping them in the reserves will stop their unhappiness from contributing to the overall happiness level of the first-team squad, and will prevent the idiotic board from leveraging squad unhappiness or lack of player support as a point of criticism against you.
If you have good training facilities and good coaching staff, to keep u-23 players starting games on u-23 teams MIGHT be better than to loan them out to warm the bench on first teams elsewhere. Games started and form have HUGE impact in young players development. I ALWAYS keep young prospects on my u-23 teams, unless they are offered starting 11 game time elsewhere.
We're here for the jokes, not the game!
You can manage under 23 and u18, but you have to be the manager of the first team. That's micromanaging to the max!
Tried that one time in Switzerland managing all the teams of FC Zurich but after a month into the season realised I'm not that insane lol
@@sergeysvirsa3993 it took what? Two weeks to get to the first game of the season?
@@Youtubas no it was more like playing 3-4 games a week which I still consider too much and too pointless for a european football club. Brazilian clubs tho. Love 'em and hate 'em at the same time but ocasionally I'd manage a brazilian side once on every FM for say 5 to 6 seasons
@@sergeysvirsa3993 Jesus, Brazil is insane. 60+ games a season, and half of them are against lower league clubs. The english conference aren't mich better, if you can do a cup run, you play more than 50 games a season
50k for this quality? bruv easly top1 FM youtuber
Brentford would disagree :))
What do you mean?
Can you do a video on how to adapt to your opponents game to your advantage
Exactly! I really want to know how to assign tactics like that.
There is a twitter thread by FormidableFM that explains this very well! He talks about how to react to certain roles and formations. That should be enough I think
@@felipewilliams3047 do you have a link i can use to find it?
@@kingkai18 twitter.com/FormidableFm/status/1286361647683076097 that is the thread about how he sets up opposition instructions after seeing the team report in fm 20. Shouldn't be much different in FM 21
For me...The B team of Athletic Bilbao is really helpful because I have to rely on the academy for almost all of my players...so the b team becomes a useful one to develop all my youth players..and also mix in the old players who are of no use.
Home grown at club production line. Buy 'em young, stick 'em in the B team, 3 years later you've got a home grown at club prospect, out on loan, back in to replace someone on the bench. My Cardiff team is 75% home grown at club (I over did it, you don't need to overdo it)
B team trick: put trialists on your B team and you get to instantly see their attributes (if your B team is technically a “second” club)
Spanish B teams get quite overpowered as years pass ingame so you can even manage a team like Getafe and make their B team a top one in the second division pretty quick
The problem with my B team in my save is that after my board approved of the creation of a B team, they didn’t join any league at all, I have an expanded Polish database filled with B teams at different divisions but mine is outside of any league so they just play 30/40 friendlies a season, does anyone know of B teams can join leagues at any point?
It's explained in the video. Just download the database provided at the website
they join a league you just dont have it in your database.
B teams can be promoted to playable leagues but only if (in the real world) they play in the league below it, example
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Germany have 3 playable leagues so B teams that can be promoted to 3 liga are the ones that play on forth tier so in regionalliga,
Spain is the same 3 playable leagues so to B team to be promoted it must play in Tercera,
B teams created mid game cant be promoted at lesat i think so
@@TheElder90 my b club 'plays' in regionliga and never gets promoted for some reason. bitchass bayern plays in 3rd league
Great topic and ofcourse clicked like after the intro :)
I always wondered how reserve teams, which are not playing in a league exisiting in the base game, get promoted to a higher league, which is in the game, even though they do not play games. Happened to me multiple times.
It happens trough reputation. When a team in the lowest level in the game gets relegated, the teams with the highest reputation in the league that is not in the game get promoted. No need to thank me.
@@redgamer2163 Thank you nevertheless. But how do non-league teams change their reputation? How is it even determined?
Yes, im interested in that too. I have strong players in team b team. Always only friendlys is shit..
They do play games even if they’re not in your database. Go click on any player in your b team and look at their stats, they’ll show up. You just can’t watch the games.
Lower leagues are still played even though they are not loaded but dont go to extremes like Watford wiining prem after 2 years they are more subtle i think its according to media prediction not sure and 1st team getting better makes lower team better so your team has more chance of promotion and getting to playable league
I usually sign former Players as Staff for the B-Team. In this case it does not matter if they are good coaches but I get to keep them.
Premier league reserve teams playing in the Cup against lower league team is an absolute insult to those lower league teams, many of whom are venerable, proud clubs with tremendous histories. And to think we get find if we play our own B team against these Premier league teams. My team, Portsmouth, plays the reserve anyway to make a point, and we still made the final two years running.
I'm waiting for the year when both finalists are u23 teams and nobody bothers to watch it.
you mean the leasing trophy right?
Another great video Zealand! Got a question thought, when should we loan a player out? When is the best time to do it? Until when should we keep a good player in our reserves/U19? It 's difficult to me to know when to accept loan offers by my youngsters... Thank you in advance
You should ALWAYS loan a player out if: 1. He's already 18 years old (Then, playing becomes much more important for development than training); 2. The club that wants to bring him on loan plays at a better league than the one your reserve team is in (Quality of matches player is in also greatly influences development); 3. The club will actually field him very regularly (They should go as Star Player status or close to ensure he gets as much playing time as possible).
@@telmorola1768 thank you very much
What about the B Teams that do not play in any reserve leagues?
Any solution to this?
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you don't always need custom database to promote your B team to playable league, if your B team play in league below playable league ex. Tercera division in Spain, Regionalliga in Germany, they can be promoted without custom db, you need just a bit of luck (or S&L in specific day)
I play as Deportivo la Coruna, my B team is the strongest in La Liga 2 (and probably) stronger than few La Liga teams, they constantly produce players that break into first team, so B teams can be great if you use them well and if they play in normal (not reserve) league
But I don't wanna send them on loans, especially the ones I sign who are 18 or under. I want them to all become home grown at my club
This is the problem i have in the english leagues
@@NaturallyRapid try to get as many domestic affiliates as possible then
Plus younger then 18 don't develop from playing time. So if you have a good coaching setup and can afford it don't loan them out. Even if they are already home grown.
Reintaler That won’t get them club homegrown..
I've learnt to only sign the best youth players and to do it as early as possible on a long a contract as possible. That way you take a bit of a hit for those years but save money in the long run by the time they need a new contract they'll be home grown and you can loan them out for a year or two of experience and other clubs can cover the new contract wages. I usually pay a little more to get them to agree to longer contracts or ones with "optional" extensions. The hardest part is not just signing every decent looking wonderkid I've had clubs with near 150 players which is a nightmare to juggle.
The B team has been a constant pain for a lot of years with this game, at least give us the option to participate in a league so the players can get some experience and develop a little.
Sorry but you’re wrong about B teams.
Even if they aren’t in you database they STILL DO play games. Click on any player in your B squad and view their stats and it’ll show how they’ve played, you just can’t attend the games or watch them back. They’ll still get their playing time so it’s not like they’re going to plateau down their.
You can also easily promote teams from outside the database to inside if you play a lot of good players.
I got my Hertha II team promoted into the playable leagues after really building up my second team so you don’t need to download all kinds of extra stuff.
Correct and SI have confirmed it doesn't matter if the league is loaded or not. Just the level of the league. The issue that is worth mentioning is the semi-pro status (less training) and less control over coaching staff etc. While Zealand made some valid points he really should have added some caveats and do a bit more research. There is a lot between his loan everyone out vs the have a playing 23 team squad options.
This is really interesting because I had tracked my development with Dortmund II and seen them putting out little to nothing, as for promoting of the team up I had received a lot of complaints about trying to do the same thing and stack the team to get it promoted but it failing - good to know it can work
I think I get into what you're talking about later in the video, the nuance of keeping players fit, getting a few matches to keep development moving between first team experiences etc.
The sentence I regret is that the players don't play at all in the B-team
I started a Stuttgart save, they have a B team but wasn't in a league, the way I made them useful was I arranged 2 friendlies a week and used it to keep my players match fit. If they became too old for the u19's but weren't good enough for the main team, they were sold or released. Just had 3/4 players to sit there and the rest was filled by youngsters/unfit players. Although... I am now interested in adding the German lower leagues.
I also am doing a stuttgart save after my AZ save. I got them promoted and second in my first season in the bundesliga, how is yours going?
Aye I'm a Stuttgart fan from Stuttgart and I did the exact same haha
The U23 teams in the EFL trophy killed it as a spectacle. Fans have boycotted it since then with a bit of a turnout in the final. It is seen by League one and League two as an experiment to try and force Premier League U23 into the league pyramid which has been muted before and we as fans are dead against it.
When did FM stop letting you manage the u-23's/reserves? You used to be able to years ago. And the u-18s. You also had to be the senior team manager ofc. but you could still do take over and pick the team/tactics and manage the matches etc.
5:30 - Where did the rain come from my man? :O
For me there is a bug in FM19 and FM20 where you cannot get rid of B-teams or U23 teams. I had this happen in 2 different leagues so i think it's a general bug. If you take full control, then every year at the start of the season the game asks if you want to register for the U23 or B-team competition. Even if you remove all players and staff and answer NO on the question, the game will create a full calender of fixtures where you don't have players for anymore, tiring out and injuring all your youth players over time. It sucks bad...
I manage Guimaràes B team in a save 4 or 5 years ago in a journey man and it's fun, as you as a manager can pick players from the A team but at the same time you can give players to A team
Just started a save with FC Bayern II down in the 3rd German league, and won the league with the youngsters - you have 15-16 b team players and lots of u18 players (very talented). Funny save, B teams are fun to manage because you cannot buy, you have what you have. I developed them a lot in a year, at the end of the season Cuisance, Arp & Batista Meier went straight to the first team 🤙
Ya I’m managing Dortmund. And just spammed friendly matches for Dortmund II
William Cross your secundary team can’t climb ir u do not have the league in the database?
I’m currently at Leipzig as well and they have been asking me to create the II team, but i think it’s only benefficial if they can promote to 3rd division, is it possible?
just full of fun abs love it. keep it up zealand mate. as always great vids.🤝
I got my own fix for this: FM pls add every lower German league up to kreisliga C I want to sign myself🙃
Go to steam workshop. No need to thank me later.
@@redgamer2163 ellaborate please
@@trainerzard7 Or just Google ''fm20 Germany patch'' it'll pop up
The first thing that you do as a german FM Player, is download the German file with the 4th 5th and 6th Divison.
So your B Team has a League to play
I'm a fan of your work and I'm not trying to take a sweaty dump on your cereal but I had to give up half way through the video as I felt 30% dumber after trying to watch you explain the difference in all the types of teams. I'm sure there's plenty of useful information to be had later in the video but after 7 mins I felt like I knew less about B teams than I did going in to the video!
Yeah I’m honestly not sure he knows exactly what he’s talking about in this instance. I like his tactical stuff and I do learn things from time to time but in this video it just feels like he’s trying to explain something he doesn’t completely understand himself.
And sorry if I’m sounding rude, that’s not my intent, just stating my opinion.
I appreciate it and I'll try to be more clear earlier on? This video is definitely back loaded, I found the main issue in making it was there are a bunch of different situations depending on league rules
Nah I appreciate it, there are just a bunch of types of situations for b teams and I, perhaps ill advised, tried to touch on all of them
@@ZealandonYT appreciate the response. I was being jokingly critical in my comment so I'm sorry if it sounded meaner than I meant it to as I appreciate knowing the tone a stranger on the Internet intended is near on impossible.
Keep up the great work. Really enjoy your videos and find them all very useful.
Soo if I have a B team I keep them on "my team" and just put them as available for my B team and try to loan them out? 😅
Currently doing an Athletic Club save and their B team has been a fantastic resource.
First season I overspent to get the B team promoted and now they're up near the top of the Spanish equivalent of the championship. I've constantly got my youngsters on the edge of the first team playing in the 2nd tier regularly with odd first team games thrown in. The increase in development is fantastic but it's also been great for a couple of my younger strikers when they go on goal droughts. Allows them to get goals and switch back into the first team when the other strikers start misfiring.
I don’t believe that’s true because the registration rules are pretty strict in the Spanish league for second teams.
You would have to have all the players registered before the season to allow them to play in your B team, so just sending them down wouldn’t work.
I’m also not sure that you can register someone for both your B team and A team because when I tried they got excluded from my B team squad and weren’t allowed to play.
@@frederikbrandt424 they can they need to be registered for any 1 of the 2 teams and dont need to be included in other teams match squad within 24 hours if a player plays for b team he can't play for a team for that day and next day and most of matches occur on same day so you need to plan a couple days ahead if you wanna play them im 1st team
@@frederikbrandt424 you can register them for 1 team only but they can play for both there is also a certain number of matches played in a team after which the player cannot play for b team any more so keep that in mind too
Issam Asghar Are you certain this is the case in the Spanish league? Because everytime a B game comes up it always says 0 first team players available even if they don’t play on the same day.
And as I said, the one time I registered my B team players in my first team they lost their availability for the B squad.
@@frederikbrandt424 i am right now playing with bilbao and i just checked it before commenting so yeah you can do it but there is a age limit of person being lower than 23 year to play for both team freely other wise they have to be registered for b team
Hi Zealand, something which I wanted to get your opinion on is a realisation that I recently had whereby I think most fm players are not playing as the game intended, including myself. But I’d like to know your thoughts.
The idea is that when players are sorted into ‘squads’ (first team, reserves, U19, etc), these squads actually represent training squads rather than match day squads. I think most people will move young prospects into the reserve or youth teams as they’re not expected to get game time in the current season
However, Klopp has recently been protesting the fact that his youth prospects don’t receive league winners medals despite them training with the first team for the entire season, which got me thinking about my fm saves.
What backs this up is the fact that you can make players available for youth team matches but you can’t make players available for youth team training. That is unless you have a confrontation with a player and tell him that he is ‘training with the kids’ for the foreseeable future and the game automatically moves them into the youth squad.
Since the inclusion of mentoring groups rather than individual tutoring, I have wondered how best to mentor those youth prospects when they’re in a different squad than my best mentors (usually first teamers). But now it seems so simple if the ‘squads’ are designed for training.
After having this realisation I was stunned that I have been perceiving the game I’ve been playing for 15 years completely incorrectly, and I was wondering about your thoughts on the matter. It seems as though most youtubers I come across play as I did (by only having match day players in the first team squad) so I’m unsure whether A) it’s correct, and B) whether it’s news at all. Your feedback would be greatly appreciated, thank you.
You're right
Zealand Thanks! I bought fm20 for my Dad (75y/o) last Christmas and recommended your RUclips channel to assist him in getting started. He’s loving both the game and your channel! Thank you from us both! Greetings from him and I via Spain and China respectively!
english U23 leagues are fairly competitive. i use the trick of having any 4+ star prospects in the 1st team squad for the possible mentoring/training buff.
i made a save with porto and my b team actually won the second league 2 times, they only had 18 players xD
If a certain club in The Netherlands has enough asset (youth, staff etc.) and is interested in participating in a league with a B-team, they are allowed to play in the 2nd division of The Netherlands (Keuken Kampioen Divisie). These B-teams, called "jong" *clubname*", are not allowed to promote to the highest league though (Eredivisie).
Sidenote: "Jong" is Dutch for "Youth" .
Bring back animation! Moneyball one was hilarious! 😂
I took Newcastle out of the reserve league and just organise constant tours so they play on the same day as the first team matches, so players who didn't make the matchday squad stay sharp, and they play adults instead of under 23s
Liked the video just because of the Nepenthez reference LOL
I’m so happy I came across this rn 👑
PLEASEEE how do you make a b team I have an awesome Fulham save and I wanted to make a b team as I have tons of players that aren’t good enough to make the first team but I don’t know how to any advice ? Football manager 22
I love the Nepenthez reference
Not sure entirely if it is still a feature in the game as it wasn't entirely a real thing. But I found out by LLM in FM19, that when you are a club who doesn't have an U23/U19/U18 etc manager, you have the option through staff responsibilities to be manager of the U** group. Obviously the problem with this is you aren't solely manager of the U** team but the whole club, whilst filling in as there is a vacancy. This means you would have double the workload. (I assume by setting all first team duties to assistant you could technically solely focus on U** team and let the assistant become the actual manager - problem being if the assistant performs badly, you would get sacked; maybe it would be doable with in-game editor and choosing to be unsackable and then doing all of the above, what would be good is you could also manage transfers in of young players and leave DOF to do first team)
This applies to Club A analogy used. And would mean you could manage reserve/U** with more control of what you could do than being an actual B team Barca B/Bayern II for example
I'm playing with Athletic Bilbao. I am in 11. season and my B team is in second league and C team in third league and they are amazing and lot better then 99% loans. In first season my B team was in 4. league and C team in invisible league but at end of first season they both promoted. Guess i was lucky that C team promoted to real league so fast so i can actually make use of it.
B and C team use main team's coaches and state of the art training facilities and play in relative high reputation leagues(specially spanish second league) and i took control of their training schedules and individual training and i can tell you that young players develop amazingly there. LOT LOT better then on loans to random clubs, only better(maybe) is loan them to first teams in first league but i didnt notice any major diffrence of few times i did it. Second league combined with state of the art training facilities and 4,5 and 5 stars coaches are good enough for 17,18, 19 year olds.
On the other hand U19 team dont use main team coaches(only goalkeeping and fitness coaches) so i hired lot best possible u19 coaches for them. Basically my U19 team are all exclusively 15, 16 year old, C is 17, 18 and B teams are 18, 19, 20 years old and in each is one 26, 27 year old "veteran" for mentoring only. Both my teams, B and C won their leagues multiple times but cant promote anymore since cant be in same league.
Video title is misleading.
Dude, I love the content it's helpful a lot, but your vids are better Then awesome because of jokes, even the cringe ones... I mean especialy because of them, keep it up
My Mainz’s U19 won the Youth UCL after 6 years into the game.
6 years? my Sporting cp u19 won after 3years and the first 2 got to semi final and final.
Thank you for using our unique flag with the tea cup. You sir are class 👏 👌 🙌 👍
I am managing Krasandor in Russia. They have a second team, a third team, an under 21 side and an under 18 team.
So does Bilbao they have a Basque only player policy though
@@issamasghar5203 i tried playing with them a few years ago it was no fun
@@user-fh4sl2fz3y its hard to manage them but fun not so much i am currently managing them just started though
@@issamasghar5203 just try get the best coaches and training facilities, pool of players to scout is more like a puddle!
@@user-fh4sl2fz3y yeah I'll just buy every youth player and sell them for profit and hope a big player goes for sale
I have won ucl with bayer 04 in second season so it won't be that hard atleast reaching quarter final top 2 finish in league and maybe even win copa Delray
My Jong PSV squad dominated the Keuken Kampen (2nd level), but they can't be promoted to Eredivisie 😄
I play as Boavista in Portugal, which is the strongest team in the world now in my save, and i let all my U19 players play for the B team for some seasons until they are ready to be loaned out to a team in the best Portuguese league or play for the first team. And the B team won the 2nd league last season. Unfortunately they can't be promoted. Could be fun playing against them :P I never use the U23 or U19-B
In FM 24 I have heard a lot of reports where B teams don´t help development at all making the reserves in England a lot better for development.
I love your channel. I wanted to see if you knew that the reserve and/or u19 teams in scotland can play in a couple of cup competitions that include the top leagues in n ireland and wales. This is good as your *b team* have a chance to win a cup each year but also good scouting opportunity for finding good british players (if UK leaves EU in game) and/or finding the next club ace.
Not surprising seems like Britain loves putting youth teams in cups
as with all things FM, spend big money on youth, it resolves most issues (but takes 3-5 seasons to see huge rewards. good coaching staff can sort out a B or Reserve team in terms of development but loans are ALWAYS the best development if you cant give a player games. FM/CM is not hard when you know how, lots of young talent, I mean 10+ players a season, the ones that don't quite make it you can sell for decent money and the ones that do...well thats 40-100 million of player bought for 100k to 4million (ish). You just have to be able to survive 2 -3 years (minimum) with limited big name signings whilst waiting for youth to develop
(ftr) atm Im 20 seasons into an old CM (o8) game I have won 15 prems , 9 CL's, 7 FA cups, 9 League cups, and 3 world club cups all using this method. It works in every copy I have played of the game (including ones made in the last 3-4 years)
Once I saw Vitória de Guimarães playing on same league as their reserve team when the reserve team got promoted from third tier and the other got relegated from first tier on the same season
loving the little shot to my home county the netherlands with our ' jong' teams
I started a save with the 3rd tier Spanish team and obviously they don't have B team. After a few years, I reached the first tier and also now have a b team which is stuck in the tier just below the playable league in FM. Since I have already started the save and now deep in it I cannot go back and edit the database. Is it possible to somehow get the B team promoted to the lowest playable league using any editor? I have to do a save/reload on the promotion date, do you know the dates for the Spanish leagues? This has been a problem for me for the past 3 FMs because if you start in the lowest tier in any nation you are still going to be stuck with a B team in the non playable league.
I clicked this thinking it meant like a second choice XI in your senior team 😅😂 but a very helpful video nonetheless!
My b team is in Liga 3 - which is 3rd division of Germany. I will make some of my over 18 young players available for my b team to play but keep them in senior team for training and mentoring (better facilities and coaching too).
In spain B teams play second division very often, lot of B teams are top side on 3rd division
I didn't wanna have to do this, but it's La Liga Smartbank instead of La Liga 123 lolol
Lov the channel ❤
i had this problem with my schalke save, and i used the u19 teams as a 2nd team and the b team was trash reserves that i only used them when one of my players got injured i would have a back up player
but only do this 2 to 3 years in the save, because you will have a lot of youth prospect and you can give more playtime to the best ones and the bad ones you use them as reserves or you sell them
The Netherlands gets weird indeed. The reason there are some jong (young) teams in the football pyramide is because a couple of clubs on the second level went bankrupt. The teams on the 3rd level are semi-amateur and didnt want to become full pro clubs. They just stayed on 3rd level. They put in the jong teams to make the competition full again and also to enhance the development of the younger and more talented players.
Can you make a video just showing a perfect squad, how many players in each position and showing older and younger players, plus playing time
At Celta Vigo, I did hardly anything for the B team (apart from hire a manager) and they got to Segunda Division and finished third in their second season there 🤷♂️
Keep making the jokes! They're hilarious
Lol that intro really got me.
I would have subscribed or kept watching your videos of you didn't make a bunch of Jokes❤️🔥so keep am coming
Top stuff as ever. I have an entirely unrelated question about the effect of 'shouts' during matches? Do they actually do anything more than what simply changing the tactical instructions would? From my experience, there are about three 'positive' shouts that players seem to respond well to, and all the rest have a detrimental effect on the team. Is there any firm information about what the results of 'shouting' during matches actually is?
I am doing a Porto save and in the 2nd season the won the 2nd division of Portugal, but they can't be promoted to the Liga NOS, they are always on the top. In Porto Under-23 my manager is Hans-Dieter Flick, because he got fired by Bayern Munich and he accepted to go my team
Speaking of English teams.. as a West ham manager, my u18s are for.... Wait for it, u18s and decent youth prospects. My U23s are basically for keeping my SUbs match fit and keeping a couple of typical u23 players. I loan out as much as I can... Unless I am waiting for them to be home grown and I'll have them in my main squad but available for u23 fixtures. The coaches in the firs team are better, simple.
Can you maybe not put so many random movement effects on the close up shots? Its giving me motion sickness :(
About the Dutch Jong Squads; during the financial crisis some clubs in the 2nd tier of Dutch leagues went bankrupt halfway season. To fill up the spots in the competition, the B-teams of Ajax, PSV and FC Twente went from the usual Jong league to the 2nd tier. These squads compete like any other club in the 2nd tier, but cannot promote to the highest level (2 years ago, Jong Ajax won the league, but the 2nd in the league promoted). Jong FC Twente was later replaced by Jong AZ because financial problems at FC Twente. Also, Jong FC Utrecht and Jong Vitesse are in the 3rd league of the Netherlands. Other clubs whose B teams are not in the 2nd or 3rd tier, play have their separate league.
Nice video