Just didn’t have any squad depth and was too reliant on the high press. The second the Germans played around them, they were in free fall They also didn’t get any talent in from other nations quick enough. Especially America
Vaduz cannot get ECL places in Switzerland because the Swiss FA decided not to let another country take their european spots. So while they allowed Vaduz entry into their league structure they cannot get anything beyond the league titles from it. This unique situation is what made them a challenge team because of the unique qualification situation.
To clarify, Vaduz can only get an European spot by winning the Liechtenstein Cup. Piece of cake, right? Well, yes... but it's a Conference League spot. The only way Vaduz can play the Champions League is by winning the Conference League and Europa League one after another, and to retain the qualification spot they have to win the Champions League.
11:53 OR you add a 3 year optional contract extension clause to a 5 year contract, and then also add an additional 1 year extension clause if the player plays 5 or 10 games in the last season of his contract, getting a total of 9 years on the contract: and if you make the player sign the contract at the end of the season then you might make it 9 years + ~1 year of whatever his current contract is(depending on when you negotiate the new contract)
You’re the Queen’s Park guy? I have Sam Denham (the BPD highlighted) at 31yo in my save at the minute at Greenock Morton. Man got me 8 assists from CB to get me promoted
@@3rdaaa where the hell did I get Queen’s Park from? Maybe the black and white but it’s even in your comment... I also managed to get to the premiership (had a really good first season and finished 5th, going through a bit of second season syndrome in the league but somehow managed to beat Besiktas 7-2 on aggregate in the Conference League playoffs to get myself some of that sweet Group Stage money)
@@TrykusMykus yep I suppose the good news is if you put together a good enough team you could drop down from the group stage and win the tournament you drop down to
I love and hate loaning players, I am peterbrough and loaned in Adam Idah, he started as a 3 star striker and after 2 seasons on loan at me he got to a 5 star striker, he scored 30 goals for me by the January transfer window and Norwich called him back, I always fall in love with loan players
please add Save Your saves into a playlist for future versions of fm if you plan on keep doing them! :) easier to catch up if you havent watched for awhile :)
A follow up trick to players who want to go to bigger clubs, eventhough u signed a new contract with them. If they want to go, and u ask them if there is anything u can do to let them stay, and they still say no. Say that u will accept the next bid if the amount is high enough, they will want to negotiate a price that is high enough, and u put as high as u can get the player to accept(that is not really important, just as longs as the player accepts) lets say 15 million. Then u go onto transfer status and change asked price from 15 million to 10 million. That way no matter which club that wanted him (PSG, Real madrid etc) will never bid anymore than the 10 million u asked for, and the player will never as much as lose as much as a little morale from there on, and u can then go back to the old circle of new contract every year again. I Just sometimes was pressured out to do this, because there was no other solution
Unless they changed it for fm21 v Fm 20, the Liechtenstein cup actually gets you to the Europa conference after it’s creation, which is much much worse for ever playing the in the champions league. I went through that with a lovely club called balzers fc in 20
The problem with Liechtenstein challenge is that it's actually BUGGED. I played with FC Schaan, played around 5 seasons already in 1st divition and am a top4 team there. Problem is when the board starts asking you to qualify to ''X'' competition through league, it's literally impossible. They asked me to qualify to Conference League THROUGH league, and although I was the runner-up and qualified to Conference via Liechtenstein Cup, they got disappointed about the result, nothing you can do at that point.
Why are my players losing ability stats even though they are playing well, and they aren’t aging past their peak? I’ve had guys on 4 stars and then drop to 3 within a month for reasons I’m unaware of. I’m very new to FM so if you know of any suggestions as to why, that would be greatly appreciated!
Are they losing actual attribute points or is it just that their coach rating is dropping? As your team reputation and performance expectation improves, a players rating relative to the team will worsen. A player who is God tier at a Championship club and rated 5 stars, might only be rated at 2 stars for a team challenging for the Champions League.
I know its an old video, but Notts Forrest isn't two different teams. Notts County are literally called Nottingham County, so to shorten Nottingham to Notts for Forrest is correct. Its like calling West Brom, West Brom, its shortened.
I’m in my 6th season with Aston Villa, we have won the Carabao and Conference league. We finish mid table almost every season and have only broken into the top 8 twice. How can I break the top 6 barrier?
@@elliottschrier2175 Do you have a lot of movement to and from your club? Sometimes a lot of new players (or longer serving players leaving) can mess with your dynamics. Dropping points against smaller sides is usually an indicator that the AI is adapting to your tactics. Try mixing it up if you haven't already!
Hey Z, enjoyed this (not least beacuse, as a Forest fan, you called out the shameful 'Notts Forest' person!) Have a Q that's always bugged me but don't know if you've ever covered it: what's the difference between a star player on my team playing at a 6.3 and an average player on my team playing at a 6.9? Is a better player not playing well still better than the average player playing...averagely? What about the weakest player on my team at a 7.1 -- is that a 7.1 by their own standards or the team's? Would love it if you could do something on this
Ok so it's not comparative to the player, it's to the team and the team you're playing against in that game. If the weakest player in your team has a 7.1 one and your star has a 6.3, that means the weakest player is playing a lot better than your star.
@@Roscododger Thanks for your reply! This all makes sense, as it's all done off in-game stats like passes, interceptions, tackles, etc. The player's attributes are just the ability of them to perform those in-game stats better. I was overthinking it!
Your star player played worse for whatever reason: he's unsettled, he's being played in a bad role for him, he's old and his physical attributes make him unplayable (except in a role made to fit him in the squad), whatever.
My Icelandic wonder kid isak bergmann johanneson is an amazing winger… too bad I got fired from swansea and lost him and my model citizen 4.5 star 19 year old striker 😢
On my Newcastle save Man City in the 3rd season finished 17th and only stayed up due to GD. I’m not sure what went wrong for them, their squad was still amazing. They bounced back the following season and fight for champions league spots. Any one else had something similar happen?
Playing a longer save, watching city hover above the relegation zone. All their strikers have average finishing. Been like that for a while. Been picking off their best players but they must be printing money
If you are interested- here is the Swiss League and their UEFA Continental Qualification Process: Pos Team Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts Qualification or relegation 1 Young Boys (C) 36 25 9 2 74 29 +45 84 Qualification to Champions League second qualifying round 2 Basel 36 15 8 13 60 53 +7 53 Qualification to Europa Conference League second qualifying round 3 Servette 36 14 8 14 45 56 −11 50 4 Lugano 36 12 13 11 40 42 −2 49 5 Luzern 36 12 10 14 62 59 +3 46 Qualification to Europa Conference League third qualifying round 6 Lausanne-Sport 36 12 10 14 52 55 −3 46 7 St. Gallen 36 11 11 14 45 48 −3 44 8 Zürich 36 11 10 15 53 57 −4 43 9 Sion (O) 36 8 14 14 48 58 −10 38 Qualification to relegation play-offs 10 Vaduz (R) 36 9 9 18 36 58 −22 36 Qualification for the Europa Conference League second qualifying round and Relegation to Swiss Challenge League
In a lot of ways, yes. Teams in your league adapt to your tactic better, it's more difficult to know the exact potential of a player, covid impacts finances for the first year or 2 and if you're in Britain, Brexit is harder.
Hi Zealand, I found loaning players very effective when managing lower-tier league teams. But too many loans makes me feel insecure. currently managing Kaiserslautern and have 8 loaned players in the starting 11 .
French Army: The Maginot line is the most powerful defensive position in the world. There is no way the Germans can get past us. Wehrmacht: And what if we go around you instead? French Army: *panik*
@Zealand how can I send you my save? I want multiple billions on the bank. I notice I cant get more than 2.4-2.5billion do you have advice for me? Play my save.
Maybe, but a target man is more about receiving the ball off long passes with his back to the goal rather than driving into the box for headers. So I understand it but playing on mixed or floated would work as well if he was less direct.
Well before World War 2, France decided to fortify their border with Germany with fortresses, weapons, trenches etc. to prevent an invasion. This was called the "Maginot Line". This line was pretty much inpenetrable. But it was very aggressive, and there was no real defense behind it so if you got around it France would be in trouble. So that's what Germany did. When Germany decided to invade France, they broke a bunch of treaties to march straight through Belgium and around the Maginot Line to invade France. So what Zealand is saying is, don't have your lines too far apart on Football Manager because you risk having the opposition just going in-between it. Or like the Germans did, just going around it.
I signed a Brazilian striker for 30 million at 18 years old. He looked like he could be the one. Two years later the board accepted a bid of 30 million plus add ons, didn’t allow me to protest and I lost him.
Can't wait for Arteta to submit his Arsenal save
😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nah, Zealand wouldn't do that one as it's unsaveable
Jesus can’t save that team never mind zealand
Hold a team meeting and pray for vibes. 👍
Full FM style tactical breakdown of the failings of the Maginot line please Zealand
Just didn’t have any squad depth and was too reliant on the high press. The second the Germans played around them, they were in free fall
They also didn’t get any talent in from other nations quick enough. Especially America
zealand, as a forest fan you have NO IDEA how happy it made me to see you call out someone calling us "notts forest"
just lost on the CL final with forest 2 weeks ago man... i'm sorry. won a fa cup tho
In my save I turned Forest into the best team on the entire planet, On my way to an 8th PL title in a row hehehe
@@leo020999 its all good we have 2 of them already
@@dagothher bigger than man city in my books
Nitties Forrest
Watching Zealand continue to compare the whole squad on Defender attributes.
If your Advanced Forward and Inverted Winger don't have 14 marking and 17 tacking, what are you doing?
I like to exemplify mistakes people can make
@@ZealandonYT Fair.
Ze, whatever you pay Reece, its not enough. That intro was magnificent
The commentary at 12:47 slayed me.
Vaduz cannot get ECL places in Switzerland because the Swiss FA decided not to let another country take their european spots. So while they allowed Vaduz entry into their league structure they cannot get anything beyond the league titles from it.
This unique situation is what made them a challenge team because of the unique qualification situation.
That sucks
They should play in their own country's league setup.
@@theh0lybible Liechtenstein has a population of 38k. There isn’t a league setup
@@jovanvincic6349 better get working on getting a league established, then.
To clarify, Vaduz can only get an European spot by winning the Liechtenstein Cup.
Piece of cake, right? Well, yes... but it's a Conference League spot. The only way Vaduz can play the Champions League is by winning the Conference League and Europa League one after another, and to retain the qualification spot they have to win the Champions League.
11:53 OR you add a 3 year optional contract extension clause to a 5 year contract, and then also add an additional 1 year extension clause if the player plays 5 or 10 games in the last season of his contract, getting a total of 9 years on the contract: and if you make the player sign the contract at the end of the season then you might make it 9 years + ~1 year of whatever his current contract is(depending on when you negotiate the new contract)
Didnt know you could do that
I always get plus years on optional into contracts. Saved me loads of heartache. Minimum release clauses though only end in grief 😩.
my elgin save made it to championship AND sys in the same day? lets goo!! thank you for the tips Z! will gladly change that right back into full back
You’re the Queen’s Park guy? I have Sam Denham (the BPD highlighted) at 31yo in my save at the minute at Greenock Morton. Man got me 8 assists from CB to get me promoted
How’s it going now?
@@tommmmm6023 my save is elgin city. Denham is a beast too in my save!
@@hamedbadatnames just promoted to the premiership after hardfought battle in championship!
@@3rdaaa where the hell did I get Queen’s Park from? Maybe the black and white but it’s even in your comment... I also managed to get to the premiership (had a really good first season and finished 5th, going through a bit of second season syndrome in the league but somehow managed to beat Besiktas 7-2 on aggregate in the Conference League playoffs to get myself some of that sweet Group Stage money)
That Vaduz Challenge just impossible.
"Como se dice, 100 million dollars" is possibly a top 10 moment for this channel in my eyes.
Nice to see fratton Park get a shoutout in SYS, even if it’s in an intro
Hey Zealand! I feel like every time you revisit a subject you add a little bit of knowledge! Keep up the good work!
Vaduz?
Eschen/Mauren is where it's at!
Also you go to the Europa Conference now rather than the Europa League
You mean you gotta win Conference, then win Europa and then win CL consecutively if you wanna win CL?
@@TrykusMykus yep
I suppose the good news is if you put together a good enough team you could drop down from the group stage and win the tournament you drop down to
10:36: couldn't you get back in the Champions League by finishing 3rd in your group and then winning the Europa League
the edits are so fireeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
I love and hate loaning players, I am peterbrough and loaned in Adam Idah, he started as a 3 star striker and after 2 seasons on loan at me he got to a 5 star striker, he scored 30 goals for me by the January transfer window and Norwich called him back, I always fall in love with loan players
Bro you are so funny man , love watching your videos , greetings from turkey
I genuinely laughed out loud at you watching the replay thinking it's a new highlight 😂💀
I'm digging that "loans" remix hahahah
Always a pleasure watching your videos Zea.
proud of you Zealand. true man. understands that its not notts forest
Top tier intro skit that
Quality intro Z!
please add Save Your saves into a playlist for future versions of fm if you plan on keep doing them! :) easier to catch up if you havent watched for awhile :)
Thank you for correcting the "Notts Forrest" Z.
Regards
A Nottingham Forest Fan
Its technically correct.
Nah I live in elgin nice to see someone actually use the team the owners great
Finally a new S Y S
A follow up trick to players who want to go to bigger clubs, eventhough u signed a new contract with them. If they want to go, and u ask them if there is anything u can do to let them stay, and they still say no. Say that u will accept the next bid if the amount is high enough, they will want to negotiate a price that is high enough, and u put as high as u can get the player to accept(that is not really important, just as longs as the player accepts) lets say 15 million. Then u go onto transfer status and change asked price from 15 million to 10 million. That way no matter which club that wanted him (PSG, Real madrid etc) will never bid anymore than the 10 million u asked for, and the player will never as much as lose as much as a little morale from there on, and u can then go back to the old circle of new contract every year again. I Just sometimes was pressured out to do this, because there was no other solution
Unless they changed it for fm21 v Fm 20, the Liechtenstein cup actually gets you to the Europa conference after it’s creation, which is much much worse for ever playing the in the champions league. I went through that with a lovely club called balzers fc in 20
I went to watch Elgin play recently. It's safe to say the FM stats are about right.
The problem with Liechtenstein challenge is that it's actually BUGGED.
I played with FC Schaan, played around 5 seasons already in 1st divition and am a top4 team there.
Problem is when the board starts asking you to qualify to ''X'' competition through league, it's literally impossible. They asked me to qualify to Conference League THROUGH league, and although I was the runner-up and qualified to Conference via Liechtenstein Cup, they got disappointed about the result, nothing you can do at that point.
Why are my players losing ability stats even though they are playing well, and they aren’t aging past their peak? I’ve had guys on 4 stars and then drop to 3 within a month for reasons I’m unaware of. I’m very new to FM so if you know of any suggestions as to why, that would be greatly appreciated!
Are they losing actual attribute points or is it just that their coach rating is dropping? As your team reputation and performance expectation improves, a players rating relative to the team will worsen. A player who is God tier at a Championship club and rated 5 stars, might only be rated at 2 stars for a team challenging for the Champions League.
Liked for the intro alone. Top marks to the editor, Reese… cause I know that shit wasn’t Zealand’a idea lol
it’s always a combo
I know its an old video, but Notts Forrest isn't two different teams. Notts County are literally called Nottingham County, so to shorten Nottingham to Notts for Forrest is correct. Its like calling West Brom, West Brom, its shortened.
I’m in my 6th season with Aston Villa, we have won the Carabao and Conference league. We finish mid table almost every season and have only broken into the top 8 twice. How can I break the top 6 barrier?
How does your team compare to the rest of the league?
Buy 7th's best player?
@@Theshabadaman we have a great team, we’re probably level to 6th and 5th but we drop points against weaker sides too often
@@elliottschrier2175 Do you have a lot of movement to and from your club? Sometimes a lot of new players (or longer serving players leaving) can mess with your dynamics.
Dropping points against smaller sides is usually an indicator that the AI is adapting to your tactics. Try mixing it up if you haven't already!
@@Theshabadaman I had a few players leave but I keep signings to 1-2 a season really, sometimes more if I need depth
15:50 omg i have velasco on my team too
Watsonja's internet search history I'm pretty sure is being looked at by at least 3 international task forces.
Thanks for saving my kids!
"You definitely know how to play the game. You copied my tactic."
Mòdena
Moh - de - nah
Hey Z, enjoyed this (not least beacuse, as a Forest fan, you called out the shameful 'Notts Forest' person!)
Have a Q that's always bugged me but don't know if you've ever covered it: what's the difference between a star player on my team playing at a 6.3 and an average player on my team playing at a 6.9? Is a better player not playing well still better than the average player playing...averagely? What about the weakest player on my team at a 7.1 -- is that a 7.1 by their own standards or the team's? Would love it if you could do something on this
Ok so it's not comparative to the player, it's to the team and the team you're playing against in that game. If the weakest player in your team has a 7.1 one and your star has a 6.3, that means the weakest player is playing a lot better than your star.
@@Roscododger Thanks for your reply! This all makes sense, as it's all done off in-game stats like passes, interceptions, tackles, etc. The player's attributes are just the ability of them to perform those in-game stats better. I was overthinking it!
@@Roscododger What about if the star *averages* 6.3 for a whole season, and the bad player, 7.1
@@reintaler6355 That still means the star player is worse
Your star player played worse for whatever reason: he's unsettled, he's being played in a bad role for him, he's old and his physical attributes make him unplayable (except in a role made to fit him in the squad), whatever.
My Icelandic wonder kid isak bergmann johanneson is an amazing winger… too bad I got fired from swansea and lost him and my model citizen 4.5 star 19 year old striker 😢
What an intro 😆
And so I'm waiting.... waiting on my form to change,
yeah I said we're waiting (waiting) waiting on our foorm to change.
Fullbacks are underrated
A lot of these SYS submissions just seem more like humble brags.
Getting relegated is not a humble brag.. not sure how someone gets relegated to be fair. Game is easy but I guess that would be a brag.
Zealand do a pentagon challenge if you haven’t done one yet
On my Newcastle save Man City in the 3rd season finished 17th and only stayed up due to GD. I’m not sure what went wrong for them, their squad was still amazing. They bounced back the following season and fight for champions league spots.
Any one else had something similar happen?
Crazy. Was Pep there?
Playing a longer save, watching city hover above the relegation zone. All their strikers have average finishing. Been like that for a while. Been picking off their best players but they must be printing money
@@JamesHussain82 no Pep left and Tuchel took over for the season and they didn’t sack him until the end of the season.
Teams managed by Tuchel usually perform really bad in the PL
i oonly watch for the intros
Nice t-shirt! Go Bucs!
Zealand's humor man
"Get your fingers out".
If you are interested- here is the Swiss League and their UEFA Continental Qualification Process:
Pos Team Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts Qualification or relegation
1 Young Boys (C) 36 25 9 2 74 29 +45 84 Qualification to Champions League second qualifying round
2 Basel 36 15 8 13 60 53 +7 53 Qualification to Europa Conference League second qualifying round
3 Servette 36 14 8 14 45 56 −11 50
4 Lugano 36 12 13 11 40 42 −2 49
5 Luzern 36 12 10 14 62 59 +3 46 Qualification to Europa Conference League third qualifying round
6 Lausanne-Sport 36 12 10 14 52 55 −3 46
7 St. Gallen 36 11 11 14 45 48 −3 44
8 Zürich 36 11 10 15 53 57 −4 43
9 Sion (O) 36 8 14 14 48 58 −10 38 Qualification to relegation play-offs
10 Vaduz (R) 36 9 9 18 36 58 −22 36 Qualification for the Europa Conference League second qualifying round and Relegation to Swiss Challenge League
what is a "offball goalscoring-merchant"???
Vardy
Can you release the Loans song because i agree whole heartedly and would like to send it to my friends who are dumb and disagree
9:15 was this video directed by Joe at tifo?
I’m a simple man, i see a Zealand video, I click on it
How do you get to be a part of these videos?
19:20
Aston Villa playing above themselves and finishing second before reverting to poorer finishes. Is this the late 80s early 90s?
Vaduz can't qualify trough the swiss league because they are not a swiss team. They just play in the swiss league.
Is Fm21 tougher than Fm20?
In a lot of ways, yes. Teams in your league adapt to your tactic better, it's more difficult to know the exact potential of a player, covid impacts finances for the first year or 2 and if you're in Britain, Brexit is harder.
@@Roscododger thanks for the feedback
Hi Zealand, I found loaning players very effective when managing lower-tier league teams. But too many loans makes me feel insecure. currently managing Kaiserslautern and have 8 loaned players in the starting 11 .
What's up Zealand!
@zealand: Can you save my Hearts of Iron 4 save?
Yes he can, if you... 19:20
9:13
French Army: The Maginot line is the most powerful defensive position in the world. There is no way the Germans can get past us.
Wehrmacht: And what if we go around you instead?
French Army: *panik*
They needed fullbacks instead of wingbacks, and a DM would’ve helped too.
@@ThreeRunHomer Played a 4-4-2 Diamond against a Wing Heavy team 😬😬😬
Why trained wk when you can buy decent player and still win ucl
Sos dios te amo
@Zealand how can I send you my save? I want multiple billions on the bank. I notice I cant get more than 2.4-2.5billion do you have advice for me? Play my save.
19:20
@@Roscododger Thank you
Called us "Notts Forrest"
Hope he got relegated with a record-low points total.
Is it not odd that hes playing low crosses with a target man
Maybe, but a target man is more about receiving the ball off long passes with his back to the goal rather than driving into the box for headers. So I understand it but playing on mixed or floated would work as well if he was less direct.
I dunno Jeff
What did french do ? please explain
Well before World War 2, France decided to fortify their border with Germany with fortresses, weapons, trenches etc. to prevent an invasion. This was called the "Maginot Line". This line was pretty much inpenetrable. But it was very aggressive, and there was no real defense behind it so if you got around it France would be in trouble. So that's what Germany did. When Germany decided to invade France, they broke a bunch of treaties to march straight through Belgium and around the Maginot Line to invade France. So what Zealand is saying is, don't have your lines too far apart on Football Manager because you risk having the opposition just going in-between it. Or like the Germans did, just going around it.
I signed a Brazilian striker for 30 million at 18 years old. He looked like he could be the one.
Two years later the board accepted a bid of 30 million plus add ons, didn’t allow me to protest and I lost him.
Notts is just a nickname for Nottingham (the city)
Btw not to be that guy but Notts is short for Nottingham So it’s one team
Yes, however they don’t refer to Nottingham Forest as Notts forest
Intro is fake, a 4-3-3 gegenpress will always work
Zealand Save Your Saves? Couldn’t click any faster.
People who use "Notts Forest" are the scum of the earth.
ITS NOTTINGHAM FOREST or NOTTS COUNTY.
Cumfotably
yooo
loans.......Loans.......LOANS
omg i wanted to be first
Am i only the one that save before match when i lose i force close the game 😅
Thats just cheating but whatever makes u have fun
Whats the fun in that?
Thats totally no fun, only waste my bored times 😂
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