We Finally Know The Names & Powers Of The Gorosei
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Original Title: I SOLVED One Piece With Oda's Reveal About The Gorosei! (Chapter 1073) 
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This one was seriously great! My chat was telling me to react to it as soon as we finished the chapter today and your kanji insights were super helpful! Great stuff!!! 👏
Ooo your "chat" wants you to "react"?! Come on this is the lame ish that's ruining yt manga/anime content
@@daytradersanonymous9955 I dobt get why you are pissed lmao what is wrong in his statement
@@bblala1408 He looks like a hater from that statement. Took rogers response as a cheap excuse to react to something for monetization purposes only which is not the case.
Yeah I don’t know why he was salty… i was literally watching that stream and stopped just before he was gonna react to it cause i wanted to see it here first… his chat literally told him he should watch it which brought me here… let the haters hate i guess… 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
There's no one guest theory became reality 😂😂oda is watching 😂
A Gorosei outside of Mariejois. We really are in the endgame of One piece. We are seeing two decades of buildup, world building, and plot developments, slowly come together. Egghead is goated 🔥
Im so ready. Its all paying off so well!
Final saga oda is moving different.
@@TyandOnGoing Right?? He's literally giving us answers after a big reveal right the next chapter. Oda's on different timing rn 😭💯
@@golden_eye2156 good to see you dudes some people hating one piece cause after 2 decade this is revealed
then the end will be as much as disappointing than wano 🤣. So much build up for nothing again, so lower your expectations because we might get wano 2.0 🤭
Oda: Dropping name of the elder
Theory community: Alright boi, get to work, we get 10 years worth of information just dropped
Fr bro 😂😂
joyboy crew this 5 bastards
I feel very bad for those who will watch One Piece after it is finished because they will know the ending and they will not know the fun of making theories.
They will be able to read the series start to finish though, not chapter by chapter. The best way to enjoy a manga series imo.
But it's gonna be so awesome when we find out to go back and rewatch it again with this knowledge.
For real glad I started last year
i stopped watching one piece, because it has lost lots of his old charm (drawing- & characterwise), nevertheless, i love watching the theory videos no other anime has such a potential storywise, it shows what a brilliant author oda is
But they get a different first experience, where ours was based upon wonder and speculation, theirs could be based on endgame knowledge and get to have those "oh he has was so weak in the beginning" moments.
Seeing Admiral Koby or God Mode Luffy then watching episode 1 would be a huge wtf moment l
Oda mentioned so many myths of the world and connected them in his story, it feels like he's not only explaining what the One Piece is, but how the whole world works
This is exactly what I thought he’s showing us what happens in the real world
comspiracy. advance civilazation ' tartarian empire
I've been saying this!!!!!
thinking about this a long time ago
I would guess this is one reason OP is so popular. If it was void of references, it would feel so different, even distant. Now you always get a sense of familiarity, even when reading for the first time.
I believe the name Gorosei is also a reference to the spartan Gerousia, a group of noble elders that oversaw all political decisions and advised the TWO kings of sparta. I think this may imply that gorosei once served someone in addition to Imu
Maybe joyboy and imu like he said they could've worked together to maintain balance until imu betrayed joyboy maybe with help from the gorosei
Interesting point, but I can't fully get behind it. Gerousia just means something along the line of the 'Olds', while as Manu put it, the Gorosei means 'Five Elder Stars/Planets'. The Gerousia weren't necesserily only five men, in fact, there were many of them, at all times. Yes, they advised the two kings of Sparta, but I see no reason to put that parallel up here, since the Gorosei don't seem to show any willingness to cooperate with Luffy. I don't put it past Oda to pull this one tho, however I think it's unlikely, but given his excessive knowledge about Paleontology, I wouldn't be surprised if he reinvented history in this way ^^"
Say king joyboy and queen imu, imu got power hungry and wanted to control the world and joy boy wanted to free it so she betrayed her love and had him killed
@@Thebasicwhisper so basically the whole One Piece could be summarized by: Women! hahahahaha????
imu and joyboy and if you reverse imu it's umi which means sea and what completes the sea ? land ...which where the name joyboy comes in because if you reverese joyboy it's yobyoj which means land ...true story ...don't google it :D
Just adding a footnote, one of Jerry Garcia's guitar was called Saturn. It had an inlay of the planet saturn on the cover
Wooaaah
Didnt oda give that info in the manga?
@@Jeduken the translators? Yea
Steve Cripe did indeed make a Saturn guitar for Jerry, but he never played it as he died before it was finished. Cripe then completed the build as a tribute to Jerry.
Whoa whoa whoaaaaaaaaa 😳
The Gorosei being neutral in the story and keeping balance while JoyBoy returns would be the BIGGEST plot twist in the History of plot twists
That would explain why the Gorosei has been "fooled" so many times and why they didn't show interest in the gomu gomu earlier in the history. Maybe the one who apperas to be going to egg head is going there to talk to Luffy.
@@poloblanco2903 it's not lik they didn't try to catch luffy tho even when he had gomu
So you mean the gorosei are good guys? Theyre just protecting the world from imu? That would explain the buster call. It is bad but better then imu ereasing the whole island fully
@@sarov7658 they had to. Else imu would erease whole islands
I'll leave the wine here to age 🍷 🍾 in case this comment comea true
Fun fact: Oda sensei used to have another penname called "Tsuki-Hi-Mizu-Ki-Kon-Dou(月火水木金土)" which means "moon-fire-water-wood-metal-earth" also as "Monday ~ Saturday". And obviously there was no "Sun/Sunday" in it. Interesting isn't it?
Reminds me of nico robin nickname miss all sunday
the missing one piece
@@truthboom Same - Thinking like Ms all sunday and Sun god met
Oda basically working 24/6
No it wasn't interesting
7:03 no way Ohara almost guessed the names of the gorosei correctly. You got 3/5 names right
9:05 Not only that but also he guessed the charge of Venus as the one in charge of finances. No words
I just realized the V in Nusjuro name means venus
The Gorosei turning out to be good all along would be a REAL plot twist.
They aren't good or bad.
Honestly, I wouldn't be very surprised
@@sensoryparagon9801 I agree. Nobody that can be described as simply good or evil could run a World as vast as One Piece's. Too greedy and tyrannical, things collapse; too humble and generous, things also run into ruin. It takes great decision making, understanding of one's power and flexibility...sometimes even at the expense of human life...to keep balance.
The people of ohara : 👁👄👁
@Dio well, you don't know if they're stuck in such position. Or If they are in that position in order to lessen what is already bad, as other chosen rulers would worse. Or if at least one of them are a spy or something
Okay I just clicked the video but i have a theory,what if one of the Gorosei is a traitor? If all the Gorosei have planets names,then what if one of them is named "Mercury" and that one will be the traitor cause Mercury as a planet is the closest to the "Sun"(Nika,Luffy),this is just my theory
That's such brilliant idea like imagine how amazing that type plottwist would be and since it is endpiece that's kinda stuff oda is on revealing
Also with Mercury (Hermes) being the god of trickery
@@rowdymouse3771 and Hermes is a "messenger",imagine if he tells Luffy as a "message/letter" what The World Government is up to
The badguys don’t need any more traitors. And it’s most likely that the WG want Joy Boy bafk - they just don’t want the truth of what happened 800 years ago out
I think the traitor is Saturn because that is the roman name for kronos the titan, who fear his children killing him so it really goes with How the goreshi that’s name Saturn has a fear of the other 4 elders killing him but that’s just my 2 cents
This makes the scene of imu looking at the frozen strawhat make so much sense. and makes me excited to see the origin of rogers/shanks/luffys hat
I fail to see the connection??
This theory wasn't about that am I missing something??
@@mohamedelhediissa289 Watch the end again, maybe imu and joy boy ruled the world together in the past, maybe they were friends, Allies….
@@quantillaprudentia1345 they were bothers, joyboy's real name is DYRAS. And will of "D" is will of dyras
@@thequietkidintheclass3972 uh huh
@@thequietkidintheclass3972 and is this Dyras with us in the room right now?
Possible inspiration for ONE PIECE, "Esteban, Child of the Sun".
Hi all,
Recently, I discovered an interesting correlation between ONE PIECE and an old japanese anime called "The Mysterious Cities of Gold" or " Esteban, Child of the Sun" that was uncannily similar to ONE PIECE. This series aired in Japan when Oda-sensei was around 7-8 years old for reference.
The gist of the story is:
The protagonist is a young boy called Esteban, who was saved in his childhood by a respected sailor that promised him to took him in his adventures (Shanks). This "Shanks" gave Esteban an amulet of great importance, much like how Shank's hat was given to Luffy
Esteban sailed to the sea in order to find a city of gold considered a fantasy by people. The place he goes is called "The New World", and his ship had a lamb head in the front.
During the voyage, he encounters a young girl called Zia: she's the only survivor of an old tribe capable of reading a forgotten language that's key to reveal the history of the world (poneglyph) and the location of the "City of gold". Her tribe was murdered by some mysterious brutal force, and her island was burned down to ashes. She ends up joining his adventure.
The way to find this city of gold is exactly the same as Laugh Tale: finding four secret locations and connecting them on a map.
In their adventure Zia got captured a few times, and was forced to read the ancient signs by malicious pirates. She then lied, in the same way Robin did. Over time, more people joined the crew.
We meet people of all size and races, and experience unnatural sea phenomena (like sea currents capable of lifting ships through the air).
In a point, Esteban got captured by a 100% woman Amazonian tribe that fight with bows and live with snakes. There it is revealed he has the capability of controlling the weather, something he does unintentionally. The Amazonians end up helping our protagonists, recognizing that strange phenomena as a prophecy of some kind.
Zia's abilities eventually lead the crew to one of the "Ancient Weapons", a highly technologized ship with a tremendous power capable of navigating at amazing speeds. The ship has a lion head in the front.
After all this events, we discover the culprits behind Zia's childhood tragedy: a powerful civilization of aliens established in the earth (They were called "OLMECS" literally "Rubber People"). They tortured and slaved people from all races, and exerted what's basically a global control over hundreds of years. Their interest: the city of gold and its treasure (an object, like ONE PIECE).
We eventually end up arriving at this "Laugh Tale". In the entrance, we see a blocked door and a man with the mask of the sun god (we then discover this man is the father of our protagonist, and a member of an important cult dedicated to preserve the Ancient Kingdom). He then proceed to tell us the story of the ancient kingdom.
The Ancient Kingdom was a highly technologized civilization of the past reduced to nothing by a war and the power of "ancestral weapons". Their civilization was built around the solar energy, so they were identified as the "sun people". They were the ones who built cities of gold around the world (each one being exactly like Shandora), but most of those cities were hided after the events that took place.
We discover that this amulet "Shanks" gave to Esteban was the key to access the city of gold and its treasure (Laugh Tale & ONE PIECE). Meaning Roger and his crew were most likely locked out from the One Piece because Shanks had the key. Perhaps this is why they all laughed, after all the time and effort spent trying to find this treasure they weren’t even able to see it because the key was unknowingly entrusted to someone who wasn’t there. Roger said they arrived at the wrong time because he realized that the One Piece is only meant to be revealed to the world when someone with the Strawhat makes it to Laughtale.
Once Esteban and his friends reached the city of gold (Laugh Tale), and this is pretty insane, we see nothing but a familiar background. This background is almost the same as the first ONE PIECE ending background, "MEMORIES", that being the same song we hear the moment Roger arrived at Laugh Tale.
The “great treasure” found in the city of gold is a nuclear fusion reactor, which was greatly desired by the surviving Olmec elders from the ancient war (5 elders).
A "great war" of all races against the world government eventually began (foreshadowed by the Grand Fleet) and "Dragon" sacrificing himself to protect what remained of the Ancient Kingdom and our protagonists being free to explore the sea.
So what do you guys think? I definitely believe that Oda took inspiration as the similarities are too...similar. With recent theories such as the 5 elders being from the void century, many things are starting to line up. I believe this can be used in future theories, and can most likely be used to predict the end of One Piece.
i aint reading allat
This is some galaxy brain stuff bro
Holy sht thats good
i aint reading allat but it's fire 🔥🔥🔥‼️‼️‼️
This is very interesting! Thank you for sharing
Whether your theories are right or not, they are really well thought out.
Props to you.
Theories really add extra enjoyment to one piece
For real, it a well thought and we'll research theory.
Yep and he was spot on on a lot of things. You're definitely going to miss when you do theories, but when you put in work like he did, you'll hit a lot too and as someone watching this post confirmation of a lot of these things, this was really impressive even with the misses.
What if the gorosei were actually the reason why the fruit never disappeared or ended up in the wrong hands for long. They continuously wished/desired for it to end up in the right hands and told Imu that it would always somehow escape them bc it had a will of it’s own.
Or maybe They know the Location or the Origine of the Fruit Tree wich explains how they All Got Logia Monster fruits for the Admirals ! But Also explains that The Gorosei are Evil meaning Why Zoan fruits are Escaping them look at Nika fruit 800 years running away from them !
@@Momo-ow1ts stop it get some help
@@Momo-ow1ts yhhh u r not that guy
Nah trash theory soz
@@Momo-ow1ts good theory but if zoan keep running away then how they get duddha fruit?
The first pirate book I read was treasure island. And the latest is one piece. I realise in every treasure hunting pirate story, it's not the treasure that matters but the story nearing it. The mystery behind charismatic characters such as long John silver and shanks fjorland.
Honestly we know mysteries are one of the reasons one piece is so popular but from pirate fiction perspective, mysteries are essential for it.
If you haven't already, watch black sails.
All of the Gorosei having lived so long and having battle scars you could assume they all are extremely powerful. Even with a little effort/training over 200 years of living their Haki would be insane. So Imagine 800+. Good time to be reading One Piece!
I mean at this rate you could even just kill a slime every now and then and maxing out your level :D
When did the story EVER say there 200+ years old let alone 800??
How are they over a hundred years old?
Side note about the names/inspirations behind the Gorosei: Jay Garcia is infamous in LSD creation and in the community. LSD has commonly been known as a substance that "frees" the mind. Just an interesting thought
the new spoilers are here and i immediately had to think of this video.... speechless
OMG, the Gorosei are secretly sailor scouts! Can’t wait to see all their magical transformations🌟
On a more serious note, I would have liked the irony of the Gorosei being inspired by revolutionaries of our world while they repress any political change in the story. But it would be awesome if Oda pulls off a big reveal at the end that paint their actions in a completely different light and makes them a part of this system.
I think Luffy and Blackbeard are the light/sun and darkness/moon pairing. While Imu if they represent the sea, could be paired with earth, which is still missing from this system. Under Imu, the sea reigns supreme, curses devil fruit users and divides people, maybe after the revolution, the sea and land will be more balanced, bringing the world together in One Piece.
As a final side note, I like the arbitrary role of the moon in One Piece. It is associated with Teach and his darkness, yes, but at the same time, it is the origin of advanced civilisations and has ties to the Mink and Wano for example. It symbolizes hidden knowledge. Luffy and Blackbeard also both seek this hidden knowledge and want to change the world, only with vastly different methods and for vastly reasons.
BRO! They just did transform holy shii.... you should come up also for a theory and might be correct.
What if the reason Roger was to early is because the OP is related to a eclips. Not just any eclips an eclips where all the planets line up. Also fun fact the reason VP might use the word quasar so much is because a quasar is the center of a galaxy, it is a blackhole at the center of a galaxy and is used as a standaard candle in astronomy.
And Imo being related to the moon could also work because the moon has a face that is never pointed to the earth, we only ever see 1 side. So it is just like in the OP world people only ever see the WG but never the one in the shadows behind them.
Really cool theory!! I would like to point out that perhaps Luffy and Blackbeard are in fact the Yin and Yang, but Imu may not be the darkness, but SPACE - the medium itself. Ethereal.
Imu could be Gaia Goddess of Earth, Mother of all Life. We have all planets, the sun and the moon.
But we don't know who represents Earth. (Imu being Gaia would also create a connection between Imu and the Ancient Weapon Uranus. Gaia being the earth and Uranus being the sky)
And with that new connection to the moon, Enel's cover story gets a lot more interesting. (pointing to the fact that Shandians might be people from the moon) Maybe there was a literal war between the moon people and the people living on earth at that time.
We know that Earth was thrown back in time, with Egghead being an Island of the past. Something must've happened to the extremely advanced people of Earth in the void century. And the current world government is covering it up for hundreds of years.
@@NavanBethrax cool points! Imu being Gaia is also quite plausible!
@@NavanBethrax imu is god of the forest. One of the four gods.
THIS IS SUCH A GOOD VIDEO, no one does it quite like ohara
_OHARA_ and _ABD_ are my favourite One piece Theories and Reviews channel... And I love this channel a bit more tbh💖 ty ty
I'm willing to bet Gorbachev or the blonde Gorosei will be named Frederick or Frederich St. Mercury as in reference to Queen frontman Freddy Mercury tying in with the Gorosei on Egghead being named Jerry Garcia St. Saturn which references the band member of the Greatful Dead.
It's a very cool writing that the 3 ancient weapons is named after planets (and dwarf planet) with Japanese name that contains "king" in their name:
Neptune = 海王星 = sea + king + star/planet
Uranus = 天王星 = sky + king + star/planet
Pluto = 冥王星 = darkness + king + star/planet
And the left over planets corresponds to the Gorosei and the Gorosei in the picture are referred to as not "kings" but "saint". Wait please don't tell me it is a pun on saint (聖人 sei-jin) and "star-person" (星人 = sei-jin).
I would've wanted to know the Japanese version of "Saint Jay Garcia Saturn" so we can have less lost meanings from the translation.
I think the traitor is Saturn because that is the roman name for kronos the titan, who fear his children killing him so it really goes with How the goreshi that’s name Saturn has a fear of the other 4 elders killing him
I always found it interesting that during the Ohara incident, the gorosei (at least as portrayed in the anime) seemed pretty broken up when they has to issue the order to end the scholars, like they didn't want to do it but had no choice, just some food for thought
Ps. hope Saturn doesn't end up being the weakest of the gorosei as he's always been my favourite
For me the gorosei or even Imu itself is not a "bad" or "evil" person in the first place. Maybe for our knowledge of the story they seem to us like they are dictators with evil intentions, but maybe it can be that they think to act for the good (just like Thanos or even The final part of the story of Attack on titan) in a bad way, and maybe the ancient kingdom was not as good as we think, that's why TWENTY kingdoms allied to destroy it. So the gorosei and Imu want to prevent to know the truth to not make something bad happen again that has happened in the past (in the void period).
2:10 I didn't expect that. U got me there... 😂😂😂
Of all your vids, the Gorosei theory was my favorite all this time for sure. So i'm really looking forward to Saturn's conversation with Luffy (if they'll end up having one) and to see if they're actually good people/fighting for good in secret like you suggested but just gotta be obedient under Imu's rule until someone can dethrone him/her.. Thrilling!
One Piece is a wonderful work and a pleasure to just read it. But when you put out theories and explanations for things that have or may happen, explaining the possible inspirations and linking them together in a meaningful way, it makes it so much more enjoyable!
This is, I believe, your best video out of the few I've watched. Definiitely worth the sub :D
Fuk ur Guide lines
I find it funny that, everyone is thinking the gorosei has some unbelievable strong power, that he's going to help fight at egghead Island. Where I think he's just going to simply get control of the seraphim with a admiral as his bodyguard.
same
same tho but there's a small chance they have to a certain degree some sort of combat knowledge / experience... because of the one with the sword.
Same but thats the original intention, things can diverge from the primary objective or at least i hope so
I think they got the rest of the Seraphim with them, plus taking control of the others and Kizaru, all against the Straw Hats, it would be quite the battle, that's why Kizaru said they ain't going to escape so easily
If at the end it will be a massive battle vs the world government. For sure the gorosei will have unbelievable strong powers.
Hello, I hope you notice my comment,
I have my own theory , well it's just a theory😊
As mentioned the 5 elder names are derived from planets,
Jupiter, mars, Venus, Saturn, mercury
Now we are missing 4 planets,
Ancient weapons
Pluton = Pluto
Uranus
Poseidon other term for Neptune
Now probably Earth will be IMU😅
This goes my theory,
What if the 3 ancient weapons are same as the 5 elders in the void century. Probably their are 8 elders in the void century but the other three refuse to accept the ideals of imu and joined forces with JoyBoy. But I the end they lost and they were sealed away or killed. As you can see shirahoshi is Poseidon , there will be a possibility that the other 2 are also reincarnated.
The 3 ancient weapon can possibly be able to fight the 5 elders toe to toe.
Pluton blue print is possibly just a blueprint what if the actual pluton is the one who has the intelligence to create and invent weapons😊 and pluton is just a title, like Project pluton.
What do you think of my theory?😊
I enjoy watching your videos
Gr8 video. My thoughts & opinions of the chapter:
1. As I look forward to seeing how some of the Strawhats may handle each of the Seraphim, I now wonder if it will be a good demonstration of how they would face their respective donors. To be specific, Zoro facing S-Hawk would test whether or not he could be ready to face the real Mihawk for the title of the World's Strongest Swordsman. While Sanji facing S-Shark may be a good opportunity to prove that he is still better in comparison to the real Jinbe. Plus, maybe Luffy facing S-Snake would be a good scenario for how he would have handled the real Hancock if she was still an enemy.
2. In the last few chapters, I have often stated that it would be foolish if the SH underestimates Kizaru even if their rematch will be different from their last encounter! But now that one of the 5 elders is entering the battlefield, I like to ask you if the SH will act arrogant or take the elder very seriously since he may be nothing like Charlos & his family!
3. Assuming Luffy bumps into the elder by any chance, would this be a good opportunity for Luffy & his crew to learn about Shanks's ties to them, if or when Luffy's hat is mentioned by him? Who knows, maybe this could be the perfect time to reveal who the certain pirate was that Shanks wanted to talk to them about & how it may affect the story to come!
Well I don't know about you, but what do you think?
The first thing I thought of when hearing Venus in relation to their roles and their associated gods was "public relations" or how the world views them and their rule. Drawing more on the idea of affection rather than love or prosperity. Considering what lengths the world gov has taken to stay in power and manipulate information regarding themselves and their actions this feels appropriate.
Yea that's what I thought. And I think Imu is Gaia representation of Earth.
The moon / darkness for Blackbeard and Blackbeard as the opposite of Luffy just fits too good.
I just shocked how much u research one piece 🔥🔥🔥 hats off to you sir
The idea of Blackbeard representing the Moon also makes sense due to his association with the number three. In some spiritual paths the Moon is revered for its three phases of waxing, full, and waning which also corresponds to the Greek Goddess Hekate.
Perhaps like the Model Nika fruit, each Gorosei has a "God" model fruit corresponding to their planets.
Venus could represent health/human resources or something along those lines.
Really great video, though!!!
Not to hate on your theory but the idea of one of the Gorosei being in the human resources department just makes me laugh so much haha. Just the thought of one of the Gorosei being in charge of war, one of the history of the world, and one in charge of discrimination in the work place xD. Say Toby from The Office type of role hahaha. Again not shitting on your theory just was a fun thought that came to mind.
I dont know if you have spotify but this would be awesome to listen to while going for a walk or something, your amazing mate keep it up
You got all the names for the gorosei correct except for mars and mercury the names came out a few days ago so there's no way u could've known but wow great deduction skills that's awesome!!!!🔥🔥
I have a theory, which is that the one who brought down the Rooks was not only a boat and Roger, but the Qurusi participated in the fighting, or some of them at least, and the real story is distorted, and these scars are from the creation of that battle
that explains how rocks were taken down, even if garp and roger had joined together to find, they just can't take down the whole rocks gang, god how powerful was rocks we need answers
@@dhananjay1087 I swear one day oda's gonna color in the Rocks sillhuette and reveal that he had blue hair and a big red nose
@@Mooneymanjason oh you mean bugs d xebec 🤨🤨
My theory:
If you look at the model in the library of Ohara, there are 5 moons. Maybe each of the 5 elders is a leader
of one of them and their civilisations. One had the shandorians, one had the lunarians and 3 are yet to be named.
Mercury in charge of communication makes sense as we saw in enies lobby arv in Robin's backstory that the Gorosei who commanded to activate Buster call was Mercury and He was the only one who was talking to CP9
It took a year however now I am sure that Luffy can defeat any opponent from now on with normal gomu gomu powers. Which makes Imu, Gorosei, Doflamingo, Rob Lucci and Blueno lower in bounty if they for any reason decide to fight him. Saturn, Warcury and Ju Peter even decreased to the exact negative for hidden bounties.
Nami is the Moon, the daughter of Imu the Earth.
The moon is heavily responsible for creating waves. What does Nami specialise in? Navigation and weather. What does the word "Nami" mean in English? Waves.
Everything aligns pretty well with Imu's themes as well. Whenever Imu destroyed an Island she/he uses a map to mark it with the purpose of erasing it off the map. Just like what Imu did towards God Valley and Lulusia, both are erased off the map. Nami is also very keen towards maps, she is a prodigy since a very young age. hence why arlong enslaved her and forced her to make tons of maps. What is Nami's dream? to make a map of the whole world. Surely there is already a map of the world that the government uses, so why does Nami want to draw a map of the world if there is already one? that's because the world map that is used now is a lie made by Imu.
And might I bring up. Why did Nami ask Enel to bring her with him to the moon? well that's because she was scared for her life and didn't have any choice. But what if this classic Oda foreshadowing on Nami's real corelation with the moon. We still don't know who Nami's real parents are, or what even happened in Oykot kingdom. Why was there a war there? who was involved in the war? We know the marines were involved, but who were they fighting? We know it's not the revolutionaries because they were formed around 10 years ago right after the Ohara incident. it must've been a pretty gruesome battle since everybody there died except for Bellemere an the two kids.
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If oda actually foreshadowing nami from the moon im gonna lose my mind fr
Imu is one of the four gods..god of the forest
@@tomasss111 lol no read what I posted u will know
I really like this. Few years ago when shanks talked to the gorosei, i thought what if blackbeard isnt really the enemy, and they might need to work together to bring down the gorosei/WG ( and shanks lol). So with the sun and moon thing, i think its not too ridiculous now
Kinda like how Naruto and Sasuke, the sun and the moon, teamed against Kaguya. I think that makes sense because the moon isn't completely dark. But it also doesn't possess its own light but reflects the light of the sun. So, perhaps Blackbeard will have his darkness dispelled by the light of the sun, Luffy, and then both the sun and moon will once again work together, creating REAL balance: just like we saw from from Naruto and Sasuke, and cat and dog. I think that may have foreshadowed what's to come with Luffy and BB. We'll see 👀
Venus God of Finances… spot on…
I also think that a fight between a whole marine fleet, the Gorosei saturn, an admiral, 7 seraphim, CP0 and potentially more enemies coming to Egghead is way too much. Everyone is too excited for the possibility of an all out brawl but don't realize that Saturn could maybe turn on the Marines by killing or maiming Kizaru, Egghead could become a base of operations for the strawhats and a place for Saturn to escape to in order to escape Imu's wrath and maybe the planets could return to its original sun which would basically make Luffy's ability to attract people that much more relatable to his Sun God power and being the avatar of the Sun. Luffy may bring more allies for the grand fleet and there may be a brawl between the marines who defect to protect Egghead and Vegapunk and the Marines who side with the world government and seeing as Kizaru is closely tied to Sentomaru and Vegapunk, I think so much will be dropped and this chapter will have been a taste of what we're gonna get because let's be honest... Luffy, strawhats, and Vegapunk vs a whole army with major superpowers coming into play? Kaido would crumble under the pressure if the Admirals decided to decimate Kaido's crew of 40k and go after Kaido with their awakened Logia powers and Haki alone... Rayleigh struggling vs. Kizaru is a buffer of what could lead to Admirals just playing with their food and their actual power...
That's a lot of crap..
Mate ate the reach reach fruit
Man I follow you since a while (a lot while)
but today I feel the need to share in a comment that you putting this all together,
the way you build your videos, even if I lost interest in one piece along the years,
I am amazed by your analytical skills! Congrats
It really makes sooo much sense👏 Thank you for making this video!!
What if "mother" Imu is actually the "mother" Earth, that would explain the flower garden (the connection to nature), and Blackbeard and Luffy are in fact the embodiments of darkness and light/night and day/the moon and the sun.
dude IM is a man.
prince IM and prince dryus were brothers.
however prince dryus (joyboy)was the next heir in throne for the king. and prince IM dont want it. so he started the rebellion together with 20 countries to steal the throne.
Yea i did kanji translations awhile ago and got to mother earth for Imu
Hang on. If you add the 5 gorosei, plus Luffy and Blackbeard you get 7. There are 7 moons to the One Piece planet. If the kanji actually translates as 5 Elder Planets, it could mean that those are referring to the leaders of each of the 7 moons (if you include the Yin and Yang of Luffy and Blackbeard). I can't flesh it out any further as there is a bit too much speculation beyond that.
I think one piece might probably taking many inspirations from real life history because there was indeed an ancient civilization called Mayan which was also referred to as Maya(Sounds and indeed is similar to Jaya)This civilization was an advanced civilization and they calculated the date and time untill 2012 (most of us would have probably heard that world would end in 2012 because the mayan civilization haven't calculated dates beyond that ) They calculated the date and time by observing the planetary movements (This gives the theme of gorosei(6:28)) and this mayan civilization was taken down by none other than Spanish civilization (The names used for the world noble (1:28) has a bit of spanish theme so probably the ancient kingdom in one piece must have been defeated by Spanish or The world nobles ) Hope oda Sensei has taken inspiration from real life history because it adds a whole new dynamic to the anime and for us watchers it gives us new ways to think like what's the real-world hiding about the ancient advanced civilizations that once existed in our planet .
sun - nika or joyboy
mercury- gorosei
venus- gorosei
EARTH- IMU
MOON-BB or Xebec
mars- gorosei
jupiter-gorosei
saturn-gorosei
neptune-poseidon
uranus - ancient weapon
pluto- ancient weapon
you approach every step, question, possibility with solid, unbiased logic - it paints a good picture. goodshit
With IMU possibly being the Moon God could she be responsible the down being a devil fruit user meaning no being able to swim since the moon controls the seas. And Luffys liberation will be upon defeating EMU it frees all users to swim and be free to set sail without fear. Just a thought Manu what do you think? 😊
You kind of dropped the musical aspect of his name earlier in your video.
Perhaps J Garcia Saturn was part of a band that fell apart due to infighting. Joy Boy and a couple band mates formed their own group and wrote Binks’ Sake, but Saturn and the Planets could never recapture the magic.
Not that easy to make a rock version of Bink's sake. :)
what if the Gorosei are actually also after the One Piece and when they are trying to crack the code of finding it, they created Binks Sake. However, due to infighting or the lack of passion when singing it, they cant find the One Piece. Unlike Roger on the other hand that actually puts his passion and love when singing it. Which makes sense that the Gorosei are the ones that guards Laugh Tale. Because they are making their move when Shanks also made his move.
The name comes from the author Gabriel Garsia marks
Maby Oda sensi trying to tell us that the plot for this character was based on one of his books
It would be amazing if you make a video after checking this theory
one hundred years of solitude=void century
Just some theories by me
1. Xebec wanted to be the king of the world but was secretly erased from history maybe by imu because xebec wanted to defeat imu to become king of the world?
2. Plus joyboy was gaint who was also killed by imu and he has his hat...
3. Idk how on earth you can make a df of a person ex: nika fruit of sun god nika who died but his soul/ devil is in luffys fruit? Maybe mythical zoans are created by ppl living in the past into dfs somehow?
2:25 "looks like sanji's long lost uncle" got me dying
following the theory of Shanks being a celestial dragon, and now possibly a high ranking one (since his meeting with the five elders) I would love to see a meeting between Imu and Shanks :O. would Shanks bow his head?
No
I don't think he would.
But I also do not think it is a very likely for Imu to see anyone but Luffy or Robin.
I guess it deptends on Imus power level.
If Imu turns out to be a capable fighter it would make sense to face Luffy in order to decide worlds future.
If they are simply a cunning ruler in the shadows, it is more likely (for me ) that Robin face them to learn the true motives behind the WG.
Luffy just wouldn't care to talk to Imu if there is no punch-fighting to do.
i reckon the Gorosei will play a big part in the end so hype
no shit
Are the Gorosei former Joyboy candidates that were defeated by Imu?
no shit
I think the theory of Luffy and Blackbeard teaming up to fight and defeat Imu would make sense. Because Imu fought and defeated Joyboy. Joyboy alone couldn’t keep the balance, because he was missing the dark side( which would be Blackbeard now) to win against Imu. After defeating Joyboy, Imu put the five elders in charge to keep an eye out for Luffys DF. I think Imu wants to be a 100% safe from another Joyboy, because he is afraid of his powers, but he doesnt know about the dark side. The dark side will eventually help the new Joyboy( Luffy), because the new Joyboy alone wouldn’t win the fight again.
Yup we seen Kidd and Law fight a Yonko together so it wouldn’t be too far fetched for Luffy and BB to team up. Dragon destroys all the admirals.
Nahh ..i don't think so 🫥
It's really cool that you're using the right accent to every foreign word.
This is such an awesome theory, I’m exited to see what direction Oda goes with the gorosei
One piece chat on instagram?
One piece chat on instagram?
I have a theory what if the gorosei are the parts of imu just like there are six bodies of vegapunk. They could be part of imu. And vegapunk got the idea of separating his own body into differnt bodies from imu.
No. Stop.
Rat boy
@@GourSmith what happened 😅
@@HumanosPreparense what happened. Wdym
Venus is often depicted as being the "Goddess of Beauty" in pretty much every Japanese, fictional narrative it's brought up in. The factor of "love" is often secondary - even tertiary - in terms of what they usually represent.
Being able to relate to "beauty" instead of "love", however, does give someone a more narrow POV of what that could mean for a Gorosei tasked with being the chair of Venus.
So, propaganda then?
Thats's just one side of Venus ... The other is it being the dragon.
In many stories Venus is an evil long haired beast that is turned good by the hero and then is regarded as good and beautiful.
@@TheUnkow Yes, but - again - think about what _you_ know about Eastern mythology and then just flip that around for your average person born in that culture. It's going to be all over the place, and is, in terms of sticking with the _actual_ history of whatever it is that's being referenced.
I wasn't talking about Venus in the proper sense, but how Venus is viewed through that kind of a lens. It just is what it is - consider that Japanese history classes don't really cover _WWII_ of all things, why on earth would any Japanese person know about all the different aspects of the Greco-Roman gods unless they decided to put forth a heavy effort in learning about them other than their generic names and concepts?
@@ojisankusai Anyone who has watched a few fantasy related anime or read at least a bit of such manga knows at least a bit about western myths and legends.
Children all over the world learn more about these myths and legend trough games first and then they find out the meaning later.
I agree with you a bit, but the lens that you are speaking off have been changed very much in the era of the internet or to say, the age of information.
More and more people begin to question just how much sides to a myth or a story there can be ... and they we stumbe upon One Peace and we lose it. :D
@@TheUnkow I agree up to a point. The major issue with your stance is the language barrier. While English is almost always studied as a second language, proficiency is down the sewer. It's exactly like taking a high school Spanish course - meaning you're barely literate, let alone someone who's going to go onto foreign language websites.
While Wikipedia would be the primary page for such a thing, it's not that great - in particular - in Japanese. Like, it's really, really bad. So bad. And, again, we're talking about a country that - in this day and age - has _adults_ let alone _school kids_ who _do not know anything about WWII._ The literal modern mythology of the current world.
Sure, there's always going to be people who seek out anything and everything, but you're seriously underestimating the amount of "rule of cool" that's used in Japanese fiction, just in general, that's just accepted as having "been researched" - when in reality it's hardly a scratch on the surface.
_That's_ what we're talking about here. We may live in the information age, but Japan does _not._ Japan and China have effectively their "own" internet; China's is of course more well known as "The Great Firewall", but Japan is pretty isolated itself simply due to language barriers. I could probably guarantee you that there are more people in the world that know more about Japanese's history and myth - that _aren't_ Japanese - than the entire nation of Nihon itself. Yes, it's that bad.
TL;DR : Japanese people speak and read Japanese and do not speak English. It's very difficult for them to look things up on the Internet in the ways that mostly English speaking countries and people do. And in any case, it's more an issue for kids 20 and under rather than the vast majority of their nation who are not. Because they just don't care that much about these things, and prefer their own "interpretations" that have been hammered in over time.
Ohara for president 👏🏾 well said and put together
I think all of them are named after planets. We know the Karl Marx looking one is named "Saturn", and here are what I think are the names of the rest of the Five Elders:
1. *The Bearded Man = Jupiter:* He has a close resemblance to the Greek God "Zeus", whom, in Roman Mythology, is named "Jupiter", mostly because of the beard.
2. *The Gorbuchev Lookalike = Mars:* He has a red mark on his face, and we all know Mars to be the "red planet".
3. *The Ghandi Lookalike = Mercury:* His lack of facial hair might be a reference to how Mercury, the closest planet to the sun, is the only one of the five elder planets with no atmosphere whatsoever.
4. *Sanji's Long Lost Uncle = Venus:* He is blonde, which is a shade of yellow, and Venus, just like his hair, looks yellow in most of its depictions.
Yoo so going to the role the god of love would play here, i would think perhaps this particular elder may oversee relationships between nations. Doesnt have to necessarily be love for one another but more like respect and cooperation maybe; or they really like one another. This would be a threat to the wg because if enough nations gather together they can quite possibly cause the wg alot of trouble. So to help with this, this gorosei would probably be in chargw of missions to make these countries hate one another this keeping them divided longer. 🤔🧐 imagine if each country had enough love for one another (which is where luffy might help with this since he’s luffy the sun god) they would be a very powerful force to deal with. It sucks but the best form of control is to divide the people( among other things) which is how it is in this story.
I think oda confirmed Goresei aren't immortal kizaru asked about snacks checked for poison. Why do they even care about poison for an immortal.
Immortal as in they dont die of old age, or dont age at all
@irzilzon7041 Look at their appearance when all other characters were young. The gorose have stayed unchanged. If you cannot age and youre already 80y old you would look like an 80y old man, no?
Tbf you can still die if you're immortal as it just makes you unable to die of age. However I also don't think they are immortal as only Imu makes the most sense as the ope ope surgery is rare.
@@TyandOnGoing Yeah thats what I said but you phrased it much better, ty :d
@Irzilzon they got immortality in old ages . The aging process stoped. They can die but not of aging anymore
Could it be that Teach(BB). Drunk the blood of White Beard to get his fruit ability. After all Big Mom ate Carmel to get her ability.
or spinal fluid oda could be on some attack on titan shit lol
With the revelation that devil fruit abilities, specifically those of paramecia types are able to be replicated and used by another host as seen with the Seraphim, it wouldn't seem unlikely if BB somehow incorporated Whitebeard's blood into himself somehow
Or you know his cream
@@A_A_K_01 woah
I was guessing he ate Whitebeards heart or something
@Ohara please read this, The other names of the gorosei are already forshadowed even more. In the introduction scene gorosei sat around the a table with luffys 100Billion bounty poster. If Luffy equals the sun we can actually know which planet the gorosei are meant to have.
This would be one of the biggest forshadowing we have seen in one piece. Watch the introduction scene from 2002. Its very interesting how the table is setup. Now it looks like it was on purpose
This
Man youre gonna hit 1 M soon lessgo Ohara 🔥❤️
Interesting thoughts! What still always puzzles me, is the Seakings were talking about 2 Rulers coming together. Maybe Momo plays a part there -> the Kozukis always carry the Moon as their Symbol and we still have no explanation why Momo is able to command Zunesha or had the Livenews connection to Luffys fight against Kaido
The two rulers seakings talking about was joyboy (luffy) and poseidon (shirahoshi). Poseidon was their true king underwater.
When you were talking about the connection with week days it also makes sense in Italian, in fact the names of the days are connected to the planets. The days literally mean "day of planet x". Lunedì--> luna= moon and dì= day ( you can also say giorno). Martedì: marte= mars. mercoledì: mercurio =Mercury. Giovedì: Giove =Jupiter. Venerdì: Venere (venus). I thought it was interesting given that Italian is probably the closest language to Latin which the names are inspired from
Modern portuguese is the only language I know which weekdays are not named after planets/gods. In english (and other germanic languages I suppose) they came from nord gods too Tuesday = Tyr/Mars (Martes in spanish), Wednesday = Odin/Mercury (Miércoles), Thursday = Thor/Jupter (Jueves) and Friday = Frigg/Venus (Viernes).
Ironically to this video and Greek Gods, in Greek the days they're also not named after planets. Mon to Thur are literally called 2nd to 5th, and Fri to Sun have Jewish or Christian roots.
@@thelivingmanna4367 In Portuguese we do the same, segunda feira (Monday) just means second market, and then it goes terça feira (3rd), quarta feira (4th), Quinta feira (5th), sexta feira (6th), sabado (Saturday) and Domingo (Sunday). Which flips the idea of "weekdays" and "weekends" as Sunday counts as the 1st day instead of the end of the week.
@@d1bT.V em português também seguia a lógica dos planetas, porém mudava para segunda a sexta-feira na Semana Santa (a ideia de "feira" é, curiosamente, de um dia de feriado, com "feiras" ao ar livre). Daí em algum momento alguém da Igreja achou que era melhor não usar nomes pagãos e trocou os dias para números (mantendo o domingo ou "dia do senhor") e tomando emprestado o "feira" da Páscoa pra manter a conotação de dia "santo". É muito recalque.
One piece may go down as one of the greatest stories ever told. The real world parallels are mind blowing.
That would explain why the Gorosei has been "fooled" so many times and why they didn't show interest in the gomu gomu earlier in the history.
What if there would be a new set of Gorosei at the end of the series? If we expand off of the fact that you need the 7 individuals working together to maintain balance in the world then it would make sense if there would be a new set of Gorosei in the same way there is the new "Light" with Luffy and new "Darkness" with Teach arising in the current era
Are there any other characters in the series that align with the planets? I'm sure there might be but I'm honestly not too sure - maybe Sabo for Mars which is the war one given that he's waging a war against the WG to begin with and he also carries the Ace's fruit which is fits with the red and fire theme
Worst theorists ever 🐸👀
Gandhi did not give Us(Indians) freedom he did nothing significant but it was Netaji Shubash Chandra Bose who gave us our freedom.
Here's something to ponder. I can't quite pull the full theory together but I'm going to offer up what I have and maybe someone can take it and run with it. The planets/gods also seem to relate to the original Warlords of the Sea.
This is the clear stuff: As you mentioned love/Venus is clearly Boa Hancock. It's her power and she's also madly in love with Luffy. Jinbe is the sea/Neptune. Moria is the underworld/Pluto. And Donquixote I believe to be Mercury. He's the trickster. Merucury had winged feet and ran through the sky which seems an awful lot like the way that Donquixote runs through the sky on the invisible threads.
The next are a stretch but make a little sense: Crocodile may be Saturn. A symbol for time is sand. In addition one of the symbols for Saturn was a sickle which is oddly reminiscent of Crocodile's hook. Thirdly, someone who is saturnine is described as "cold and steady in mood" which also reminds me of Crocodile. Mihawk may be the god of war Mars who is symbolized by a sword.
Here are my problems: 1) That leaves two planets but only one original Warlord 2) Kuma. I'm opting for Uranus here. These are my think fragments. None give me a lot of confidence but maybe something will click for some one else. He is the father of the gods and one of the important details of Kuma is that he is a father. In addition Uranus was considered a tyrant and was overthrown but his son and wife. Kuma was referred to as The Tyrant. Odin the Norse father god was symbolized by a bear. "Uranus did not simply have power over the sky - he was the sky personified" and Ursa (the Bear) is the third largest constellation (literally the sky.)
Lastly, I don't know what to make of the remaining god: Jupiter. He was also known as the father of the gods (Uranus dies) and symbolized by lightning. To be honest this sounds more like Whitebeard than anyone to me. Which makes little sense but Whitebeard was "father" to his crew and the Gura Gura no Mi sure looks a lot like lightning to me.
Not sure what any of this means, if anything, but was fun to think about.
Each single Video is AMAZING (and very often weird) best of all my Abo´s :) But still waiting to hear some german words in your Video :D
I think Imu is Uranus, because "Sky" can be "Universe" or (sky but the sky you see, not all the universe) that makes Imu the strongest! Having all the solar system in his/her hands...
(and is the Vivi is Uranus theory is true, that makes the Imu is Vivi true also, damn)
The Ancient Greeks used to refer to the planets up until Saturn (excluding the Earth of course) as "πλανήτες αστέρες" (planetary stars). This also fuels the theory.
Okay so hear me out, I always had this theory about one piece, What if Joyboy used his nika powers to transform a powerful weapon or object into rubber (assuming it would still stay in that state after his death) and only someone with awakened nika fruit can transform it back into its original form, that would explain why roger was unable to do anything with it and why shanks stole the nika fruit.
Manu, what are you doing? How can you post clickbait for weeks and then come with a gem like this! Amazing.
I really like the idea where their planetary alignments coincide with their duties running the government. Each one being a minister over a broad area. I also think Venus could definitely be interpreted as prosperity and thus finance and treasury.
I think the yin and yang of the equation is the Warlords and the Marines however and not directly related to Luffy and Blackbeard. I recall a lot of talk in early One Piece how the Elder Stars were annoyed with disruptions to Warlord vacancies because it disrupted the balance of power.
Hello ! You know ? I can’t stop thinking of a story that i heard since i was a child, i don’t know if this story exists in other countries, i’m from Romania, but it goes like this: Long ago the Sun and the Moon have met in the sky and fel in love, that’s when their love story has begun and they wanted to leave the sky, God didn’t agree for them to leave the sky, and decided to make the Sun burn during the day and the Moon shine during the night and to never meet again. They were very sad to know that they will never meet again. The Moon was devastated, but the Sun even though was considered the King of the astrals he didn’t see his purpose without her. God looked at them and said that they shouldn’t be sad, because he gave both of them their own shine. The Moon shines for the lovers and the poets and the Sun is shining and bring JOY to all the living things. Sun begged God to at least not let the Moon alone, and God moved by their love He gave them the eclipse, and they live for the rare moments when they can meet and hug, and when they do, their shining is blinding for us and is imposible to look at the sky in that moment. If Imu has something to do with the Moon, then when she meets Luffy maybe we’ll witness an “Eclipse”.
“ his name is St. Jay Garcia Saturn & nobody would’ve expected this bc nobody would expect his name to be JAY GARCIA “
1. Blackbeard = blackhole.
2. Vegapunk is a representative of Einstein and he is the founder of the theory of relativity.
3. Since now we're all hype with this astronomy theory, what if Blackbeard was created by Vegapunk?
I am back here since the goro-sei names are revelead and oh boy! He almost nailed the naming of the goro-sei in 6:49 of this video.
One more. He nailed it when he said Venus is for financing as HE IS THE WARRIOR GOD OF FINANCING!!
Love you professional way of explaining 👏🏼
I really need, and I can't stress on it enough, the follow up in depth video
Wow! You're theories are so detailed and more clearer than my life.
Damn i learnd more in your video than in 4 years Grundschule danke Manu
This is literally the best one piece theory i've ever heard. Big Thumbs up Manu
Hear me out on this one:
If we are using the Roman Pantheon as a reference, that makes a total of 12 main gods of the Pantheon. We already have names of the Roman gods in One Piece : Pluton, Uranus, Poseidon, etc. so let's piece the puzzles how.
1. Ohara planetarium shows a total of 8 planets. Vegapunk said that devil fruits appeared from the wishes of humans. What if the lost civilization of the Vood Century aspired towards the stars, and 8 fruits appeared, each with a godly/celestial power (like sun-god Nika). And the number 8, well... 5 elders of which one is Saturn, Luffy (sun, Apolo), Blackbeard (moon, Diana) and... Enel (Jupiter/Zeus). This might be a hint to 8 celestial devil fruits. (Also, the splash art of Laugh Tale / ancient kingdom from earlier episodes strongly resembles a Roman Temple.
2. We worked around the number 8, but there are 12 main gods of the Roman Pantheon... Yes. The next three are the ancient weapons: Pluton, Poseidon and Uranus. But that's only 11... right... Imu - Juno (Queen of the gods). With that, the Pantheon is complete.
3. In conclusion, wouldn't it be fitting if the fate of the worls would be decided by a clash of the Pirate King and the God Queen?
These are just bits that I worked through with a friend of mine. Feel free to contradict me or share your thoughts on these ideas.
Think I can Help You with their Names. Saints Jaygarcia Saturn - Godhead of Science & Defense, Marcus Mars - Godhead of Environment, Topman Warcury - Godhead of Justice, Ethanbaron V. Nusjuro - Godhead of Finance, and Shepherd Ju Peter - Godhead of Agriculture