Great video. Can’t believe the negative comments? If you have a good place to ride a gas powered dirt bike then do it. But the fun factor of the e bikes and the small size makes them fun. I am from the 70’s dirt bike sene and it was all about modifying the bike back then and this is what the light e bike experience is about along with being able to ride and keep quiet. Thanks
Your ultra bee looks so much better than the light bee it’s mostly that extended swing arm that makes it look weird to me and i think light bees look better with 19/16 wheels if you said i could pick one I’d pick the ultra bee in a second
In addition to the amazing video and pro-riding skills, this guy has excellent presentation skills and a voice to be in front of the camera. On a side note, I would love to see more Talaria content on this channel. Thank you for your work!
Please put the ultra against a varg and a 450. Really curious how that would go. Apparently you said your only at 25kw. So turn it up all the way and see what its capable of. If at 20k it's not competitive with the varg or a 450 it's a big disappointing
Such a great video! You guys are killing it lately 🙂 It's great to see how much ACTUAL power is necessary/useful for the most extreme builds. I find it amusing when people talk about putting down 30KW on a small, lightweight dirt bike. I can't use more than 15KW on my MX4 in the woods and most of the time 10KW is more than enough. Any more than that and I'm just spinning the tire and the throttle is super sketch.
@azalldayson28 I mean it's pretty fucking capable, I just could have had stark and saved money. I bought my light bee almost four years ago though and all this cool shit wasn't available at the time. If I sold it, if just lose money on it
You guys know where i can get a k990 90/100-18? Been looking for one. Also how soft are the knobbies on that? Same as mx33? Unfortunately cannot find an 18" gummy for my e-ride.
@@JNacoustic I am talking about the MX33 soft compound.pretty sure it comes in soft medium and hard.mine have soft on the tag.K990 is only the one compound as far as I am aware.The MX33 90/100-18 is hard to find I had to order from the distributor as most retailers only carry K990 in that size
@@zachfpv4493 oh I see, soft means soft terrain. Soft terrain tires are usually pretty hard, medium terrain tires are a little more rubbery and hard terrain tires are usually the most rubbery.
@@JNacoustic I can only compare what I have ridden on mostly rocky hardpack single track.The "soft"MX33 wears faster and tears knobs easier than the K990 or the starcross5 medium Michelin if that helps?
That ultra bee is so sick it's actually a motorcycle. The light bee I have rode a stock one and It's definitely like a mountain bike with not alot of power the suspension on the stock light bee is horrible it's so rigid 😂. I definitely am buying a ultra bee.
They aren’t 20k…. They are 8k for the light bee, ultra bee r is 13k… literally brought one today. For the ON road version WITH registration. Maxed upgrades.
What is the point of this video? That a 20k investment doesn’t make it a full motocross bike? this is like taking a gokart to Lemans. These small frame e-bikes are for a different purpose
@@ChargedCycleWorks do you have a video of a stock bike racing against a 20k super build? I guess then one would see how useful the upgrades are? Personally I wouldn’t pour 20k into a mini electric motocross bike unless it was to race within certain class limits.
We agree! Luckily these bikes were used and abused in their stock form prior to upgrading. Kinda went something like “ride, break, fix, ride” over and over again until we ended up here 😂
1 - Because you like instant torque 2 - Because you like less maintenance 3 - Because you like tech 4 - Because you like instant tunabilty 5 - Because you started out with a $6000 bike and modded it over time 6 - Because you already have a gas bike 7 - Because electric is fun 8 - Because it’s the future and you’re an early adopter 9 - Because you can
theres no way that light bee is 20k my guess is more like 13-15k Its not even the best you can get the rotors are junk you will warp that front rotor in one lap. needs floating rotors and arguably a bigger size to. and trps arent even good
You don't know much about these bikes do you? Definitely over $15k. I have seen ones over $20k without even considering labor costs. Look up the price of all the parts he has before just making assumptions.
Great video. Can’t believe the negative comments? If you have a good place to ride a gas powered dirt bike then do it. But the fun factor of the e bikes and the small size makes them fun.
I am from the 70’s dirt bike sene and it was all about modifying the bike back then and this is what the light e bike experience is about along with being able to ride and keep quiet. Thanks
Fun video! Thank you for showing us these amazing builds
Never clicked so quick in my life
Haha, me too😂
Your ultra bee looks so much better than the light bee it’s mostly that extended swing arm that makes it look weird to me and i think light bees look better with 19/16 wheels if you said i could pick one I’d pick the ultra bee in a second
Couldn't agree more
In addition to the amazing video and pro-riding skills, this guy has excellent presentation skills and a voice to be in front of the camera. On a side note, I would love to see more Talaria content on this channel. Thank you for your work!
Thank you very much for the comment, we greatly appreciate your support and will definitely be having much more talaria content coming soon!
I can't decide between an Ultra or a Light. With only a 2k price difference, that would get spent on Light bee mods in no time.
Great video on the potential of both the UB and LB. Now I want to modify my Ultra Bee!
Please put the ultra against a varg and a 450. Really curious how that would go. Apparently you said your only at 25kw. So turn it up all the way and see what its capable of. If at 20k it's not competitive with the varg or a 450 it's a big disappointing
Such a great video! You guys are killing it lately 🙂 It's great to see how much ACTUAL power is necessary/useful for the most extreme builds. I find it amusing when people talk about putting down 30KW on a small, lightweight dirt bike. I can't use more than 15KW on my MX4 in the woods and most of the time 10KW is more than enough. Any more than that and I'm just spinning the tire and the throttle is super sketch.
Can't wait to see a modded Ultra Bee vs stock Dust Moto when they come out.
Love the look of the Ultra, reminds me of my Honda's with that color scheme.
Flying on the light bee at 13:34 whoo
Best video so far! Rippinnnnnnnnn
Would love to see this same comparison in the woods
Where did you get the plastics/number plates for the ultra bee?
My light bee is definitely a 20k build. And sometimes I regret it
Yup major waste of money unless your a little kid the suspension travel just kills the capabilities
@azalldayson28 I mean it's pretty fucking capable, I just could have had stark and saved money. I bought my light bee almost four years ago though and all this cool shit wasn't available at the time. If I sold it, if just lose money on it
@@azalldayson28I never thought of that holy shit dude
Is there an option for a smaller seat on the ultra bee, to look smaller and drive on the road, with supermoto wheels?
There are shorter seats but they are still full size length, not half length like the light bee
They need to make mods for the storm bee
The biggest difference and thing i wish was covered is the weight between them and maybe compared to a Varg.
You guys know where i can get a k990 90/100-18? Been looking for one. Also how soft are the knobbies on that? Same as mx33? Unfortunately cannot find an 18" gummy for my e-ride.
K990 is harder than the soft mx33.
@@zachfpv4493 mx33 definitely isn't soft, it's pretty hard..hmm
@@JNacoustic I am talking about the MX33 soft compound.pretty sure it comes in soft medium and hard.mine have soft on the tag.K990 is only the one compound as far as I am aware.The MX33 90/100-18 is hard to find I had to order from the distributor as most retailers only carry K990 in that size
@@zachfpv4493 oh I see, soft means soft terrain. Soft terrain tires are usually pretty hard, medium terrain tires are a little more rubbery and hard terrain tires are usually the most rubbery.
@@JNacoustic I can only compare what I have ridden on mostly rocky hardpack single track.The "soft"MX33 wears faster and tears knobs easier than the K990 or the starcross5 medium Michelin if that helps?
That ultra bee is so sick it's actually a motorcycle. The light bee I have rode a stock one and It's definitely like a mountain bike with not alot of power the suspension on the stock light bee is horrible it's so rigid 😂. I definitely am buying a ultra bee.
What’s the first song called?
40kw is absolutely insane. For anyone wondering thats 54hp
Nice Video, what mask an Front fender is on the Ultra bee?
KTM 65 front number plate, it’s stock front fender. adapter kits will be live on the website soon!
@@ChargedCycleWorks okay nice 👌
@@ChargedCycleWorks from wich year is the number plate
They aren’t 20k…. They are 8k for the light bee, ultra bee r is 13k… literally brought one today. For the ON road version WITH registration. Maxed upgrades.
You bet I can order a hyper Bee and I finally seen how it is suspended by surron usa
What is the point of this video? That a 20k investment doesn’t make it a full motocross bike? this is like taking a gokart to Lemans. These small frame e-bikes are for a different purpose
It's to show the aftermarket potential of what these bikes are capable of. We quite literally say in this video that these are "What if" builds.
@@ChargedCycleWorks do you have a video of a stock bike racing against a 20k super build?
I guess then one would see how useful the upgrades are? Personally I wouldn’t pour 20k into a mini electric motocross bike unless it was to race within certain class limits.
u guys might as well make your own brand bikes !!! Waist of parts unless u ultra gamed to play
We agree! Luckily these bikes were used and abused in their stock form prior to upgrading. Kinda went something like “ride, break, fix, ride” over and over again until we ended up here 😂
Add Varg to video for 20к$
The varg in canada is 17k without taxs so it pretty much already 20k with taxs
He is talking of 20K U.S @@michaelsararas3261
What's left of Surrons in these bikes ??
@@integra8502 the frame
What do u add to a varg to make it 20k? grips? Lol
20!Ouch
Lol stil a stock subframe on the light bee you need a surge stunts sub frame rookie
Why spend 20k for an e bike when you can get a real bike like a 450 for at least 9k-11k
1 - Because you like instant torque
2 - Because you like less maintenance
3 - Because you like tech
4 - Because you like instant tunabilty
5 - Because you started out with a $6000 bike and modded it over time
6 - Because you already have a gas bike
7 - Because electric is fun
8 - Because it’s the future and you’re an early adopter
9 - Because you can
@@jeffkeller774 those are some good reasons
😂😂😂😂😂 throw money baby . Dont have any sense .. even if you have money
I can make 50000 usd screw, miracle , from other planet. I think poople will buy it 😂
theres no way that light bee is 20k my guess is more like 13-15k Its not even the best you can get the rotors are junk you will warp that front rotor in one lap. needs floating rotors and arguably a bigger size to. and trps arent even good
You don't know much about these bikes do you? Definitely over $15k. I have seen ones over $20k without even considering labor costs. Look up the price of all the parts he has before just making assumptions.
@@Adam.A.Higgins Its not making assumptions I know the price of every part on that light bee, its not 20k. labor costs dont count
@@realkidcarter, why don’t labor costs count?
@@brentcollins9727 why would they? its not apart of the bike. Do the work yourself and boom no labor costs
@@realkidcarter 💀 how much is the the pinion belt drive sprocket then
get a stark varg ,its better and cheaper
Can’t quickly swap batteries in a Varg :-\
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Put those up against a 10k CRF450R or 8k CRF250R...............only things sur rons had going for them was 4k price tags.....
Show me…
my friend got his 3 or 4 years ago for a grand. today they are like 3-5k more on the high end
shouldve gone with volar sports for the light bee 🙏
Or formula e-motos.