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Can you add the Germany pack into the Magnolia County and it would be exciting for the story, it would be where the German immigrants are wanted to build new settlements into the old houses
As someone from Germany I can assure you that these plain sides on city houses are a common sight here. These city blocks are planned with continuous development in mind, so the sides can't have windows (plus, they are fire walls, so no openings are allowed anyways). And you don't decorate them, because that's just extra - in Germany, efficiency usually trumps aesthetics. At most you'll see a large mural or some advertising on them here and there, but most of them are indeed just plain white. And I have definitely seen buildings with different footprints like in the set, let's say a half-house attached to the side; but when the adjacent building isn't there, then you have these narrow buildings with a huge plain wall to the side. And due to large-scale city landscape alterations during the 1940s, there are still quite some buildings 'missing' in these otherwise tightly packed city blocks.
These "plain sides" on these older buildings are very common across the whole Europe, but my issue is that they're way too clean and bright in these region packs, both the french and german ones. I wish there was a little wear and tear on them, just some exposed or protruding brick here and there perhaps, or at least some variation in colors, darker brown, beige etc., to make it a bit more realistic. Now most of these german buildings are somewhat dark colored and the super bright white sides just stick out visually way too much in my opinion.
@@Kiwi2703 I feel that is a problem in all of Cities Skylines design, no wear and tear, no personality, very lifeless and static. It just becomes super apparent on a blank wall.
@@Ro99 mostly they’re just extensions added to the original for increasing density like adding space for a separate rental, but other times they are added for other functions like stables, separate servant housing, adding upstairs kitchens, etc. Sometimes part of a back garden is used to build another property. That’s very common in my area, because land was cheap when most of the houses were built, so they have massive gardens and building a house in the rear garden is a way to make a ton of money as a private homeowner, since houses here are high in demand.
Those aren't rowhomes, they're tenements. There's a flat in each storey. The side of the building looks like that because it's a firewall. Most German cities' codes before WWI specifiied that you could only built directly to the property line if you added a firewall there. Together with the rule that each room had to have a window, and increased property prices for street-facing units, these regulations and market forces led to the typical wall-to-wall block design of Central Europe. The firewalls are in fact visible like that if the neighbouring building is removed. EDIT: In fact many of your pet peeves are authentic to how these blocks actually look. If you look at the backyards of Berlin or Munich or other German cities - they really do combine all of these backyard designs in this very "untidy" way. That's because these aren't apartment blocks built by a single developer. Each building was built on its own lot and independent of the others. So one has a landscaped backyard, one has a "Remise", which is what these backyard houses are called, and sometimes those buildings are on the right side, sometimes left etc. So sometimes we do have these perfect "courtyards" but most of the time it's a mixture of everything, much like you get when you zone it in the game. So there's no need to play whack-a-mole until the entire block looks like a single building. Remember, the first time anyone ever had the though of "huh, this looks weird when seen fom above" is when we first got aerial footage. From the outside, only the facade is visible. And even there, the variations in setback are not uncommon.
Thank you for the great explanation of the walls and the backyards. Fascinating the ways that places differ! That certainly does limit to usability in other areas, but if it makes it more authentically German, it makes a ton of sense.
@@CityPlannerPlays I would suggest you to take a look at some Central or north European cities. These buildings would work for recreating anything from Stockholm to Vienna so it’s not only applicable on Germany. That’s what in my mind makes this pack much more versatile than the French pack.
@@skagenrora1236 Those Victorian schools would work for London - many are still in use today. And the first thing I thought of with the big department store was Battersea Power Station - built in about 1930 and converted to a shopping mall and flats a few years ago.
Again, excellent quality, but I am really hoping for the UK pack now.... We need more low density residential.... Fun fact, though: Those HUGE windowless walls? That's just how stuff looks irl, too.
But they are usually brick (sometimes even with fake windows), or you can still see how another building was once directly attached but got torn down. Even when full plaster, it shouldn't look pristine white.
i just looked at their website. they have an american northeast and american southwest pack so that hopefully will b the huge influx in suburban style low density homes
@@michaelklausI've never seen fake windows on buildings and plain brick walls are pretty uncommon in my area too. Usually they're off-white, sometimes with large-scale graffiti, paintings or adverts on them. That's one of the heavily bombed cities though that likely got the sides of the buildings painted after the mess was cleaned up, so it might depend a lot on the area
I want more European or South American low density homes. small homes with backyard gardens and high walls that stand next to each other. or some compact medium density colonial homes converted into multiple homes with communal living spaces, something that is very common in Latin America.
Imo it's not about "do they have big windowless, rendered, white-washed walls?", it's about how the white-wash looks. Right now it looks like a stock texture. It needs some...well, "texture" so it doesn't look like a flawlessly flat bit of plastic or something. It's a hard thing to get "right" though, I will say
The scene at 24:27 has a distinctly German feel, with buildings dating back to 1902 or later. Because of WWII, many areas have a mix of architectural styles, with newer structures awkwardly offset from older ones where post-war reconstruction introduced different designs.
Everyone here complaining about not getting specific architecture style, but man I am jealous you guys get a region pack at all! Really hope CO considers making a pack for tropical/desert regions, that would be very cool.
It's a very common sight in German cities to see a blank sides of a buildings without any windows or decorations. Some of them used to stand next to a neighboring building that got bombed down in WWII. So there is nothing weird about big blank walls in Berlin.
I do admit to be slightly disappointed we don't have any low density housing, to create some rural towns, but what we did get looks absolutely astonishing!
My man, the "unused" sides of houses are the standard in european cities. It's realistic. Plus they often don't line up in height etc. Soooo yeah, you even see it. Back in the day there would often have been ads painted on those empty facades, nowadays you sometimes find artworks there.
yea exactly...Here in Prague you see that a lot, often because different buildings had different architects and they came out different hieghts, and then in the 90s, a lot of these buildings added an extra floor so the top level looks a lot more plain
@@Menugius The complaint is that they are pure white (#FFFFFF) and don't match the rest of the wall bricks, or have any wear or texture at all. It's just lazy development
As a curiosity fact: the German department store is based in the Karstadt am Hermannplatz from Philipp Schaefer. Constructed in 1929, was the largest shopping centre in Europe before the Second World War and had direct access to the metro service transport, that back in that days was consider a huge innovation and commodity.
As a German I was pretty disappointed that we didn't get anything suburban. Becaus especially the current low density european homes don't look like anything that exists here. And the mixed use and medium density we got looks mostly like the frensh one but with more orange instead of white. The only good addition is the big train station imo
@@TheTaxxor i’m pretty sure the british pack will have some and although the german pack isn’t exactly the same style i reckon they’d blend together quite well
@@cadozu Its said to have low density row homes, more single family homes is what I'd like to see. Having a few blocks zoned with european low density you just have the same 2-3 houses over and over again
@@lucasmoreno2154yea i’ve been thinking the single homes in this game r ridiculously unrealistic. hopefully they throw it in a pack. maybe like italian villas or something could work well for single family larger homes. or if there’s an american suburb pack that would be huge to me. throw some more realistic gas stations n fast food restaurants in there too
Considering that Germany has the lowest percentage of home-owners in Europe, and adding the fact that thanks to ever increasing prices coupled with not increasing income, that number is likely to go down rather than up, I'd say that's quite realistic.
The block you made at 22:29 reminds me of Old Berlin - during the latter half of the 19th century demand for housing led to the courtyards in the middle of blocks being turned into additional housing units, which was one of the distinctive aspects of Berlin's design. Cool to see that referenced in this pack!
The rear exit on the train station is such an obvious thing that I'm amazed we don't have that option with other station assets. Now I just wish they'd add bridges or something that actually show people walking to the middle platforms
There is a rear exit on the small train station. You can also connect a path between the platforms on other stations to streets from the back if you have Anarchy.
@25:39 The train is lower than the station platform. You can actually see the second floor of the train. @25:43 you can actually see a person sumerging into the platform to get inside the train. Hope they can fix that, It's a really beautiful asset! Also loved that it has entrance in both sides, like most train station has (when they are in the middle of the city).
As a Polish from the part of Poland that used to be Ostpreußen… all these buildings are super similar to what I saw throughout my life 😂 I love these packs, I don’t understand why people complain. No one ever said these pack will exactly reflect factual cities or buildings. IMHO these packs are for the vibe, diversity, having fun. I’m really tired of people complaining about this game. I can’t wait to play whole weekends away with these ❤
@@michalinadabrowska1392l think everybody agrees, even the germans , but people have to complain, especially the germans. It shows they have feelings, although expressed in a negative way.
@@jokeboy146 I live in munich, this is mainly northern/eastern germany and especially berlin. the lack of fachwerk shows that they have only looked at pictures from berlin. munich looks different, bavarian suburbs look completely different.
For the buildings they probably don't put windows on the sides that could get covered because the window could end up just partially covered (instead of fully blocked out) which would end up looking worst than not having a side deco at all (image a half window popping up from another building's roof), however I agree that the simple texture side like on the fire station could be applied for the rest of the assets, that would make it way more cohesive
@@Nerthus2010it would indeed make it unrealistic, but for a different reason: a lot of German buildings aren't lined up perfectly due to building code changes and war destruction, but the sides are almost always painted in solid colour, mostly something between white and pale yellow. It's not uncommon to see large windowless walls of houses where the neighbouring house got destroyed or demolished. Sometimes they get artworks when they stay like that for long, but obviously that's not something that can really be done in CS so the plain colour is realistic. It could be a bit less bright though
@@miktr7664 @miktr7664 That's interesting to know. I live in a small village in the north of France and the overall aesthetic of the buildings is not so far from the pack, but most sides of the walls are either full bricks or have the same solid color but it's not "flat-white", it's white a bit yellowed with some imperfections. It's cool to know about the small differences between two places, I can't wait to check out German architecture by myself !
@@Nerthus2010 I guess I didn't mean "make it a full brick wall" but rather just give it a texture, even a very discreet one. BUT - after having played with the pack a bit I did realize it's not even that big an issue, because indeed, you usually place other buildings next to that blank wall which covers it well enough, and where it still shows it makes a nice seam that puts a lot of emphasis between the different buildings, so I guess it's my bad on that one for speaking too fast !
So many of those buildings look like something straight out of my childhood, growing up in the upper Midwest, Id love to see these added to magnolia county as old German town Bend
The asset packs are just so good. It makes me want an Australian theme, particularly low density residential assets for 4x4 to 6x6 Queenslander homes. But maybe I'll remain dreaming.
I think you've settled on to a perfect video format to show off these packs. Really enjoy these videos, especially because I'm a Mac user and can't currently epxerience CS2 for myself. Thanks for all the work on these!
Thanks a lot CPP, the mix of french and german houses fits quite well imo including the different setbacks which are seen often in cities like Hamburg where i lived the majority of my life.
I really wish there were some classic german single / 2 -3 family homes available. You know, white square with red / black triangle on top type houses.
23:30 It is called Blockrandbebauung and it is very common in bigger cities like Stuttgart Berlin or Munich. Usually there are parking lots or small parks for the people living there in the spaces between the buildings.
The reason for the midwest is that in the mid west many germans have settled :) also the clear sites are pretty normal sometimes there is like some text on it but thats it i see it often when a house gets removed you just have a clear wall also the train station is i think based on Hannover Hauptbahnhof
On the first glance i guessed Hannover, too. But Hannover is a bit larger and more orange-/brown-ish. Titan mentioned it is inspired by Mainz Hbf. (Central Station) The architecture is pretty similar though.
Lovely pack and the perfect lineup of creators! A really neat real life examples on how these could be put together in blocks is the Friedrichshain district of Berlin. The backyards and insides of these blocks can be much more "free form" and cobbled together than you'd think. Plus, right now there is an interesting mix of these older style buildings and completely new ones, filling gaps caused by WW2 and general delapidation.
Thanks for highlighting enhancements. I bought the game when it came out, but my computers can't handle it because I'm not really a gamer apart from Timberborn and Cities Skylines. I'm loving how the game is improving and hopefully by hardware upgrade time in a year or two, I'll be able to be be a participant rather than an observer.
I'm kind of disappointed with this pack tbh, it had so much potential...Where are the modernist Berlin- and Düsseldorf-style office buildings? Where are the southern German Fachwerk houses? Where are the post-GDR Plattenbau buildings? They left out some of the most iconic architectural styles present in Germany
The platform of the train station has some really nice detail to it that's easily overlooked with the signage of the tracks (pause 25:42), those dark blue signs with white track numbers on it aligned right side you can find on basically every train station in Germany that runs regional trains. The station itself is mostly modeled after a Hauptbahnhof (main train station), which are all very grand looking and historic but are modernized to a certain extent and they're massive so it makes sense why you could only place a single one in a city. It is a realistic take on it as real German cities only have one if any and they can only really be found in quite large cities to begin with.
i'm actually gonna get CS2 soon. from all the techniques that Phil has showcased, to all these new assets that are coming out, I feel like the game is actually going in the right direction, and I'm kind of excited to use the road tools
I see what they're trying to do with the innenhof buildings but it's too bad you cannot just zone an innenhof somehow. What happens a lot is that the innenhof buildings are actually built at a different time than the street buildings so they look very different. Also, as you said in the video, with the way they are set up in the game pack it will require a lot of wack-a-mole to get it to look right with the way the asset is made.
13:00 I especially wish the French pack had that level of detail, because from a distance it just looks like they aren't having their textures loading in properly
I really hope some of these asset packs will include low density buildings rather than just medium and higher density buildings. Dont get me wrong, these buildings are very nice, but I feel most of the current low density buildings arent as realistic and could definitely improve from an asset pack
A bit of a comment on the sides of the building, I'm Swedish, but we share a lot of architectural ideas with Germany, and flat painted concrete sides is very common. Many municipalities have begun commissioning murals to spice things up.
I'm in architecture school in Potsdam, and literally have a design project right now that is adjecent to the Department Store at 17:41. It's based on the historic Karstadt am Hermannplatz in Berlin-Kreuzberg... They planned to rebuild it, yet the business went bakrupt.
As an Austrian, id love for an Alpine pack to eventually release, drawing inspiration from Liechtenstein/Switzerland/Austria. Also any plans of ever returning to Workers and Ressources ? Really loved your first two vids, and I think if you learn the game a little more or play creative mode you could build some really interesting cities. Especially with the amount of assets on the Workshop.
I'm from Mainz, and that train station looks a LOT like the main building from Mainz Hbf. They've added newer stuff to it, but also the idea of connecting the back of the station to a separate parking lot and street is part of the Mainz station.
Just as in real life these old building get renovated and remade to be commercial, residential, office space or whatever else and I can see a lot of potential in turning all of these assets into different zones with small graphic update when the asset editor finally drops.
Thinking what would be a great use would be to make like a German “old town” quarter of the city. Or use it as part of the storyline of the city. build this style first, and then as you expand go for the more contemporary vanilla building styles to create a sense of time and age to the city.
Yessss. While I still like the French pack, I didn't love how all the buildings were shiny white. The German pack's more colourful façades look so much more interesting to me.
The more I see these packs, the more I'm excited for the American region packs. If they are of the same quality, they will be out of this world for me.
I'm missing the good old "Plattenbau", this region pack feels more like a West-German or Bavarian pack to me. Assets are very beautiful, I think it's going to make cities look more flexible and divers :)
Bavaria? Maybe in München-Schwabing. But you see these "Gründerzeit"-Häuser in a lot of former prussian towns. For "Plattenbau" try the EU-Low Income buildings. They look kind of it.
Literally 2/4 parts of this pack are from Leipzig and Dresden. No part is from Bavaria, and it doesn't look Bavarian either. It's pretty classic Prussian and Saxonian 19th-20th century architecture.
As someone who lives in Wisconsin I’m excited to see how you use the German pack in some of your superior builds. Some small towns in the great north woods will have a town center that’s very German and I love it
I already commented this on another video, but the pack represents berlin more than any other city, although it could kind of be seen as another city in germany. I would also have liked to see suburban buildings and also Neubauten (new buildings), which make up a big part of german cities.
Such a beautiful asset pack! This pack really has a few hundred years of architectural history, from gothic to jugendstil. For a German city, I think mixing older buildings from the pack with modern makes sense from a... historical perspective. The Dutch city where I live was also bombed during WW2 and you see this everywhere, historical buildings next to boring concrete buildings from the 50's.
13:20 There's a particular building in Milwaukee, maybe 20 stories or so, that has a full, unadorned brick wall all the way up. Decades ago, a mural was painted on the side of it to make it look like it has windows, lol.
Really love the region packs. Even though it might be smaller than the French pack, it still adds a ton of variety to the game. Would have been cool to also have some rural/low density and social housing, since Germany has a lot of those as well, but you can't have it all right. These region packs got me excited about the game again!
great surprise for me to see that the used my hometown (i guess so because its almost look identical) main central trainstation as asset. Its located in Hannover Lower Saxony Germany.
@@vascodagama7222 you‘re absolutely right, as a Hannoveraner myself first I thought it was our main train station but I just looked up Mainz Hbf and it’s an exact copy, Hannover Hbf is not just bigger but lack the little “towers” on both sides of the central entrance which are present here and in Mainz!
The buidings from these packs are really nice but I wish they added some more commercial and office buildings variety. It's kinda hard to mix them in with these packs and existing residential buildings because of the lack of their variety. Especially level 5 lower office buildings and level 5 commercial stores could really use a lot more variations, as there's only a handful of them.
8:40 that usually is the case since most buildings here dont really open up the structual brick layer, since that can damage the mortar inbetween them due to water seaping in, aswell as idd imagine plaster being easier to scrape off the top layer and then re-apply on renovations, aswell as also sealing walls better that they hold more heat in winter, there are still some buildings that have an open brick layer, but those are 99% of the times just external bricks, since nowadays buildings bricks arent these small classic lego esque bricks, but closer to specially shaped cubes(to allow internals easier aswell as making the building less top heavy)
I think many people have already said it, but the offset to the sidewalk you get when combining the French and German assets looks even more realistic to me than just sticking with the German pack. Same with all the different height buildings in the same rows, that's definitely what I would expect seeing in a German/Austrian/Eastern French/Dutch city. Will be interesting to see what other packs well get! Maybe a Scandinavian one (especially for fun low density residential) or perhaps some East Asian packs can add some cool and interesting buildings!
those schools can fit in any build. it could fit great especially in Pacific NW US. This style was also popular in many countries who were industrializing the style can be found even in Tokyo station, and could be explained in a Japanese build if you are willing to do some minor mental gymnastics.
I think this Asset Pack fits perfectly with the default European Style, and can be used and an extension of it. The European Style it's a little bit late 70-80 German - Scandinavian style and fits nice with late XIX early XX style of the German pack
France pack missed the opportunity to add the Eiffel tower landmark signature building , and germany missed the opportunity to add Brandenburg Gate to make a some sort of plaza with pedestrian paths .. T_T
It's not a missed opportunity. Landmarks and real world buildings have copyright/trademarked plans. So you couldn't include such obvious buildings without going thru proper channels or significantly changing the way it looks
What I personally miss on the historic train station is an actual subway addon. It's pretty common over here in Germany to have a subway/"S-Bahn" connection below ground level accessible from inside such historic stations. Also some missed opportunity for the French pack: it would be nice if they'd include a large train terminus station inspired by the former Gare d'Orsay (16 tracks, nowadays used as the Musée d´Orsay).
Really love this pack - and a great addition to the French pack. It even fits quite well with some of the regular EU stuff... but yes, you have to plop them really if you want a really good designed look. I'm not too bothered about it being a smaller pack size - as I understand it, different teams of creators went their seperate ways, so there are bound to be differences. What is impressive is the consistant quality.
i kinda wish they added a small german rail station, they're ubiquous all over germany and they all share the same sandstone building style as the historic train station. most of them have bakeries inside instead of station services nowadays
The big empty court yard reminds me of Barcelona's Eixample area, with the orange roofs. Would have to be levelled up pretty tall to pull it off though, those short buildings are not quite there.
I think the sides should be covered with the same brick as the rest of the building instead of being white. Not all the buildings will fit perfectly so having the brick showing will look much better that stark white.
We really need more in the pack, but it's still really good. For low density, the typical 20s-30s suburban houses would have been excellent. For (low rent) high density, East German prefab buildings could have been used. There is so much variations in these and they would fit very well imo.
Taller 1U wide buildings are VERY much needed to fill in medium density blocks. What I'm more excited for though is when we get low density residential, because we're a bit limited on what we have available.
I was thinking most of these buildings look like they could have come from my hometown in the midwest then you mentioned it. I hope the future of CS2 is more like the last few weeks and less like the first year after release.
@timcollins340 yes I understand it is not actually the Merchandise Mart, I only point out the similarity to suggest that this asset could fit really well even in a North American city.
As a German I really appreciate that they did not put in a bunch of half timber house BS or Neuschwanstein as unique building. Those early 1900s buildings are still a fairly common site in German cities. Toether with the modern mixed use ones they create a sight that is common for cities who got a lot of bombing in WW2. The School actually looks like my old highschool, which I think is pretty wild. And for the train stadion it looks to me a little like the Main Station in Hannover, which is the biggest city near to me. So I think they did a really good job on doing authentic German buildings.
Speaking as a german, yeah these assets look indeed very german to me. The train station in particular, but also the schools and most of the other buildings. The residential ones look like pre-war times, late 19th to early 20th century, while the mixed-use buildings look more like the ones built to replace those destroyed in WW2. Here in Frankfurt/Main there are areas where you can find a wild mix of both versions side by side. Especially in the Bahnhofsviertel (railway station quarter - the area between the central railway station and Willy-Brandt-Platz). And yes, that's also where most of the junkies and brothels are, so be careful.
23:28 In the city I live (Hannover) it's actually like this in a lot of districts. Mostly 4-5 storys tall. The Blocks can be quite large with huge, lush yards in the middle. There are some of these appartment blocks inside the yards here, too but I think it is way more common in Berlin. I lived in Munich for a couple of years in an appartement, build around the 1920s, I guess, you could only enter through the yard. The block also had another block attached with another yard without any street between. You could only reach it through a passageway like a tunnel through the building. It was a bit confusing. :D I would encourage anyone who is interested to look at a few German cities on Google Earth. It's really revealing how different and divers the regions are.
once again, nice work from the content creators. What a shame I cant play CS2 anymore as I wont use mods after what happened recently. And as you said, without MoveIt, Anarchy and FindIt the game is no fun right now.
Great video as always. Crazy the difference between cs2 french and german architecture thoughts and planning. German train station is the best building. One thing I notice is the platforms are to high relative to the trains. Hope that gets fixed. Still not going to go back to cs2 till more things are sorted fixed and added. Enjoying cs1 still.
I really don't mind the curb offset difference between the french and german assets. Seems like a good way to get some variety without having to manually tweak everything with move it, anarchy and recolor.
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Can you add the Germany pack into the Magnolia County and it would be exciting for the story, it would be where the German immigrants are wanted to build new settlements into the old houses
As someone from Germany I can assure you that these plain sides on city houses are a common sight here. These city blocks are planned with continuous development in mind, so the sides can't have windows (plus, they are fire walls, so no openings are allowed anyways). And you don't decorate them, because that's just extra - in Germany, efficiency usually trumps aesthetics. At most you'll see a large mural or some advertising on them here and there, but most of them are indeed just plain white. And I have definitely seen buildings with different footprints like in the set, let's say a half-house attached to the side; but when the adjacent building isn't there, then you have these narrow buildings with a huge plain wall to the side. And due to large-scale city landscape alterations during the 1940s, there are still quite some buildings 'missing' in these otherwise tightly packed city blocks.
These "plain sides" on these older buildings are very common across the whole Europe, but my issue is that they're way too clean and bright in these region packs, both the french and german ones. I wish there was a little wear and tear on them, just some exposed or protruding brick here and there perhaps, or at least some variation in colors, darker brown, beige etc., to make it a bit more realistic. Now most of these german buildings are somewhat dark colored and the super bright white sides just stick out visually way too much in my opinion.
@@Kiwi2703 I feel that is a problem in all of Cities Skylines design, no wear and tear, no personality, very lifeless and static. It just becomes super apparent on a blank wall.
Etwas Gleiches in Großbritannien. Aber weißt Du warum haben einige Gebäude die kleineren Gebäude im Garten?
Was funny that they look like "Lego" modular blocks
@@Ro99 mostly they’re just extensions added to the original for increasing density like adding space for a separate rental, but other times they are added for other functions like stables, separate servant housing, adding upstairs kitchens, etc.
Sometimes part of a back garden is used to build another property. That’s very common in my area, because land was cheap when most of the houses were built, so they have massive gardens and building a house in the rear garden is a way to make a ton of money as a private homeowner, since houses here are high in demand.
Those aren't rowhomes, they're tenements. There's a flat in each storey. The side of the building looks like that because it's a firewall. Most German cities' codes before WWI specifiied that you could only built directly to the property line if you added a firewall there. Together with the rule that each room had to have a window, and increased property prices for street-facing units, these regulations and market forces led to the typical wall-to-wall block design of Central Europe. The firewalls are in fact visible like that if the neighbouring building is removed.
EDIT: In fact many of your pet peeves are authentic to how these blocks actually look. If you look at the backyards of Berlin or Munich or other German cities - they really do combine all of these backyard designs in this very "untidy" way. That's because these aren't apartment blocks built by a single developer. Each building was built on its own lot and independent of the others. So one has a landscaped backyard, one has a "Remise", which is what these backyard houses are called, and sometimes those buildings are on the right side, sometimes left etc. So sometimes we do have these perfect "courtyards" but most of the time it's a mixture of everything, much like you get when you zone it in the game. So there's no need to play whack-a-mole until the entire block looks like a single building. Remember, the first time anyone ever had the though of "huh, this looks weird when seen fom above" is when we first got aerial footage. From the outside, only the facade is visible. And even there, the variations in setback are not uncommon.
I never knew that that’s the reason for the blank walls and I am German, nice to know!
Thank you for the great explanation of the walls and the backyards. Fascinating the ways that places differ! That certainly does limit to usability in other areas, but if it makes it more authentically German, it makes a ton of sense.
@@CityPlannerPlays I would suggest you to take a look at some Central or north European cities. These buildings would work for recreating anything from Stockholm to Vienna so it’s not only applicable on Germany. That’s what in my mind makes this pack much more versatile than the French pack.
@@skagenrora1236 Those Victorian schools would work for London - many are still in use today. And the first thing I thought of with the big department store was Battersea Power Station - built in about 1930 and converted to a shopping mall and flats a few years ago.
Again, excellent quality, but I am really hoping for the UK pack now.... We need more low density residential.... Fun fact, though: Those HUGE windowless walls? That's just how stuff looks irl, too.
But they are usually brick (sometimes even with fake windows), or you can still see how another building was once directly attached but got torn down.
Even when full plaster, it shouldn't look pristine white.
i just looked at their website. they have an american northeast and american southwest pack so that hopefully will b the huge influx in suburban style low density homes
@@michaelklausI've never seen fake windows on buildings and plain brick walls are pretty uncommon in my area too. Usually they're off-white, sometimes with large-scale graffiti, paintings or adverts on them. That's one of the heavily bombed cities though that likely got the sides of the buildings painted after the mess was cleaned up, so it might depend a lot on the area
I want more European or South American low density homes. small homes with backyard gardens and high walls that stand next to each other. or some compact medium density colonial homes converted into multiple homes with communal living spaces, something that is very common in Latin America.
Imo it's not about "do they have big windowless, rendered, white-washed walls?", it's about how the white-wash looks. Right now it looks like a stock texture. It needs some...well, "texture" so it doesn't look like a flawlessly flat bit of plastic or something. It's a hard thing to get "right" though, I will say
With the French and German pack alone, the diversity we can add to our cities is insane. I really really REALLY want CS2 now lol
Money problem like me.😢
I prefer CS1
And i love both.
I gave in and bought it and to be honest I would wait a while. It still is very bare bones and these packs seem more like a distraction then anything
Keep waiting, the game's not ready yet.
1:15 the Switch was so smooth it blew your hair off
Bald phil screamer
@@Kieran_P100 so smooth it changed the keyboard
The scene at 24:27 has a distinctly German feel, with buildings dating back to 1902 or later. Because of WWII, many areas have a mix of architectural styles, with newer structures awkwardly offset from older ones where post-war reconstruction introduced different designs.
Oh, maybe it works well then!
1:14 - But before we dive in, I called a mulligan on my hair.
Everyone here complaining about not getting specific architecture style, but man I am jealous you guys get a region pack at all! Really hope CO considers making a pack for tropical/desert regions, that would be very cool.
I really hope so, too.
It's a very common sight in German cities to see a blank sides of a buildings without any windows or decorations. Some of them used to stand next to a neighboring building that got bombed down in WWII. So there is nothing weird about big blank walls in Berlin.
I do admit to be slightly disappointed we don't have any low density housing, to create some rural towns, but what we did get looks absolutely astonishing!
Agreed. Hopefully some of the other packs make some low density that is a bit interchangeable.
@@CityPlannerPlays I'm going to assume the UK pack has it. Those low density houses are iconic
My man, the "unused" sides of houses are the standard in european cities. It's realistic.
Plus they often don't line up in height etc. Soooo yeah, you even see it.
Back in the day there would often have been ads painted on those empty facades, nowadays you sometimes find artworks there.
yea exactly...Here in Prague you see that a lot, often because different buildings had different architects and they came out different hieghts, and then in the 90s, a lot of these buildings added an extra floor so the top level looks a lot more plain
@@Menugius The complaint is that they are pure white (#FFFFFF) and don't match the rest of the wall bricks, or have any wear or texture at all.
It's just lazy development
As a curiosity fact: the German department store is based in the Karstadt am Hermannplatz from Philipp Schaefer. Constructed in 1929, was the largest shopping centre in Europe before the Second World War and had direct access to the metro service transport, that back in that days was consider a huge innovation and commodity.
As a German I was pretty disappointed that we didn't get anything suburban. Becaus especially the current low density european homes don't look like anything that exists here.
And the mixed use and medium density we got looks mostly like the frensh one but with more orange instead of white.
The only good addition is the big train station imo
@@TheTaxxor i’m pretty sure the british pack will have some and although the german pack isn’t exactly the same style i reckon they’d blend together quite well
@@cadozu Its said to have low density row homes, more single family homes is what I'd like to see. Having a few blocks zoned with european low density you just have the same 2-3 houses over and over again
Couldnt agree more. There's a very surprising lack of low density houses on these packs. I hope this isnt standard.
@@lucasmoreno2154yea i’ve been thinking the single homes in this game r ridiculously unrealistic. hopefully they throw it in a pack. maybe like italian villas or something could work well for single family larger homes. or if there’s an american suburb pack that would be huge to me. throw some more realistic gas stations n fast food restaurants in there too
Considering that Germany has the lowest percentage of home-owners in Europe, and adding the fact that thanks to ever increasing prices coupled with not increasing income, that number is likely to go down rather than up, I'd say that's quite realistic.
The block you made at 22:29 reminds me of Old Berlin - during the latter half of the 19th century demand for housing led to the courtyards in the middle of blocks being turned into additional housing units, which was one of the distinctive aspects of Berlin's design. Cool to see that referenced in this pack!
The rear exit on the train station is such an obvious thing that I'm amazed we don't have that option with other station assets. Now I just wish they'd add bridges or something that actually show people walking to the middle platforms
Usually there are underground tunnels below and between the platforms in german trainstations instead of bridges.
There is a rear exit on the small train station. You can also connect a path between the platforms on other stations to streets from the back if you have Anarchy.
@25:39 The train is lower than the station platform. You can actually see the second floor of the train. @25:43 you can actually see a person sumerging into the platform to get inside the train.
Hope they can fix that, It's a really beautiful asset!
Also loved that it has entrance in both sides, like most train station has (when they are in the middle of the city).
I think it"s hilarious the gym extensions from the schools add outdoor recreation by reducing the amount of outdoor on the plot...
Kind of like how the cemetery provides indoor recreation, too
As a Polish from the part of Poland that used to be Ostpreußen… all these buildings are super similar to what I saw throughout my life 😂 I love these packs, I don’t understand why people complain. No one ever said these pack will exactly reflect factual cities or buildings. IMHO these packs are for the vibe, diversity, having fun. I’m really tired of people complaining about this game. I can’t wait to play whole weekends away with these ❤
@@michalinadabrowska1392l think everybody agrees, even the germans , but people have to complain, especially the germans. It shows they have feelings, although expressed in a negative way.
@@gun1558its a prussian, not a german pack. Its like scottish, not english. ;)
As a German, that pack semms more like a "berlin pack" than a "germany pack". But ok, i will give it a try! Thank you for the video!
Same was two weeks ago when our french friends called it the "Paris Pack"
As a Dane I agree...
@@einnamewaregut and french pack was mostly paris pack :/
It´s also giving me munich or generally bigger bavarian city. I also see Leipzig or Dresden. Would have loved some Fachwerk.
@@jokeboy146 I live in munich, this is mainly northern/eastern germany and especially berlin. the lack of fachwerk shows that they have only looked at pictures from berlin. munich looks different, bavarian suburbs look completely different.
17:52 Karstadt may be broke and might soon disappear, but now we can finally add this crucial part of German city Centers to Cities Skylines!
es ist halt wirklich ein Karstadt. der am Hermannplatz aus 1929
For the buildings they probably don't put windows on the sides that could get covered because the window could end up just partially covered (instead of fully blocked out) which would end up looking worst than not having a side deco at all (image a half window popping up from another building's roof), however I agree that the simple texture side like on the fire station could be applied for the rest of the assets, that would make it way more cohesive
But would be unrealistic. Most sides should not be visible in a realistic build because there would just be building, wall by wall
@@Nerthus2010it would indeed make it unrealistic, but for a different reason: a lot of German buildings aren't lined up perfectly due to building code changes and war destruction, but the sides are almost always painted in solid colour, mostly something between white and pale yellow. It's not uncommon to see large windowless walls of houses where the neighbouring house got destroyed or demolished. Sometimes they get artworks when they stay like that for long, but obviously that's not something that can really be done in CS so the plain colour is realistic. It could be a bit less bright though
@@miktr7664 @miktr7664 That's interesting to know. I live in a small village in the north of France and the overall aesthetic of the buildings is not so far from the pack, but most sides of the walls are either full bricks or have the same solid color but it's not "flat-white", it's white a bit yellowed with some imperfections.
It's cool to know about the small differences between two places, I can't wait to check out German architecture by myself !
@@Nerthus2010 I guess I didn't mean "make it a full brick wall" but rather just give it a texture, even a very discreet one.
BUT - after having played with the pack a bit I did realize it's not even that big an issue, because indeed, you usually place other buildings next to that blank wall which covers it well enough, and where it still shows it makes a nice seam that puts a lot of emphasis between the different buildings, so I guess it's my bad on that one for speaking too fast !
So many of those buildings look like something straight out of my childhood, growing up in the upper Midwest, Id love to see these added to magnolia county as old German town Bend
The asset packs are just so good. It makes me want an Australian theme, particularly low density residential assets for 4x4 to 6x6 Queenslander homes. But maybe I'll remain dreaming.
I think you've settled on to a perfect video format to show off these packs. Really enjoy these videos, especially because I'm a Mac user and can't currently epxerience CS2 for myself. Thanks for all the work on these!
Thanks a lot CPP, the mix of french and german houses fits quite well imo including the different setbacks which are seen often in cities like Hamburg where i lived the majority of my life.
I really wish there were some classic german single / 2 -3 family homes available.
You know, white square with red / black triangle on top type houses.
23:30 It is called Blockrandbebauung and it is very common in bigger cities like Stuttgart Berlin or Munich.
Usually there are parking lots or small parks for the people living there in the spaces between the buildings.
The reason for the midwest is that in the mid west many germans have settled :) also the clear sites are pretty normal sometimes there is like some text on it but thats it i see it often when a house gets removed you just have a clear wall also the train station is i think based on Hannover Hauptbahnhof
On the first glance i guessed Hannover, too. But Hannover is a bit larger and more orange-/brown-ish. Titan mentioned it is inspired by Mainz Hbf. (Central Station) The architecture is pretty similar though.
Lovely pack and the perfect lineup of creators! A really neat real life examples on how these could be put together in blocks is the Friedrichshain district of Berlin. The backyards and insides of these blocks can be much more "free form" and cobbled together than you'd think. Plus, right now there is an interesting mix of these older style buildings and completely new ones, filling gaps caused by WW2 and general delapidation.
Thanks for highlighting enhancements. I bought the game when it came out, but my computers can't handle it because I'm not really a gamer apart from Timberborn and Cities Skylines. I'm loving how the game is improving and hopefully by hardware upgrade time in a year or two, I'll be able to be be a participant rather than an observer.
Really nice buildings. I love that these region packs are coming out and are so detailed.
I'm kind of disappointed with this pack tbh, it had so much potential...Where are the modernist Berlin- and Düsseldorf-style office buildings? Where are the southern German Fachwerk houses? Where are the post-GDR Plattenbau buildings? They left out some of the most iconic architectural styles present in Germany
They said its gonna be based on Berlin so you arent gonna see any Frankfurt/Munich/Nürnberg etc typa architecture
These packs so far have been really beautiful and some nice diversity. The CS2 team really is stepping it up offering these regional packs.
The platform of the train station has some really nice detail to it that's easily overlooked with the signage of the tracks (pause 25:42), those dark blue signs with white track numbers on it aligned right side you can find on basically every train station in Germany that runs regional trains. The station itself is mostly modeled after a Hauptbahnhof (main train station), which are all very grand looking and historic but are modernized to a certain extent and they're massive so it makes sense why you could only place a single one in a city. It is a realistic take on it as real German cities only have one if any and they can only really be found in quite large cities to begin with.
i'm actually gonna get CS2 soon. from all the techniques that Phil has showcased, to all these new assets that are coming out, I feel like the game is actually going in the right direction, and I'm kind of excited to use the road tools
I see what they're trying to do with the innenhof buildings but it's too bad you cannot just zone an innenhof somehow. What happens a lot is that the innenhof buildings are actually built at a different time than the street buildings so they look very different. Also, as you said in the video, with the way they are set up in the game pack it will require a lot of wack-a-mole to get it to look right with the way the asset is made.
13:00 I especially wish the French pack had that level of detail, because from a distance it just looks like they aren't having their textures loading in properly
I really hope some of these asset packs will include low density buildings rather than just medium and higher density buildings. Dont get me wrong, these buildings are very nice, but I feel most of the current low density buildings arent as realistic and could definitely improve from an asset pack
A bit of a comment on the sides of the building, I'm Swedish, but we share a lot of architectural ideas with Germany, and flat painted concrete sides is very common. Many municipalities have begun commissioning murals to spice things up.
I'm in architecture school in Potsdam, and literally have a design project right now that is adjecent to the Department Store at 17:41. It's based on the historic Karstadt am Hermannplatz in Berlin-Kreuzberg... They planned to rebuild it, yet the business went bakrupt.
As an Austrian, id love for an Alpine pack to eventually release, drawing inspiration from Liechtenstein/Switzerland/Austria. Also any plans of ever returning to Workers and Ressources ? Really loved your first two vids, and I think if you learn the game a little more or play creative mode you could build some really interesting cities. Especially with the amount of assets on the Workshop.
@@austriandude7594 wa guad
I'm from Mainz, and that train station looks a LOT like the main building from Mainz Hbf. They've added newer stuff to it, but also the idea of connecting the back of the station to a separate parking lot and street is part of the Mainz station.
Just as in real life these old building get renovated and remade to be commercial, residential, office space or whatever else and I can see a lot of potential in turning all of these assets into different zones with small graphic update when the asset editor finally drops.
Thinking what would be a great use would be to make like a German “old town” quarter of the city. Or use it as part of the storyline of the city. build this style first, and then as you expand go for the more contemporary vanilla building styles to create a sense of time and age to the city.
My city has multiple small villages around it. Eventually they will get swallowed, eventually not.
Yessss. While I still like the French pack, I didn't love how all the buildings were shiny white. The German pack's more colourful façades look so much more interesting to me.
The more I see these packs, the more I'm excited for the American region packs. If they are of the same quality, they will be out of this world for me.
I'm missing the good old "Plattenbau", this region pack feels more like a West-German or Bavarian pack to me. Assets are very beautiful, I think it's going to make cities look more flexible and divers :)
Bavaria? Maybe in München-Schwabing. But you see these "Gründerzeit"-Häuser in a lot of former prussian towns.
For "Plattenbau" try the EU-Low Income buildings. They look kind of it.
Literally 2/4 parts of this pack are from Leipzig and Dresden. No part is from Bavaria, and it doesn't look Bavarian either. It's pretty classic Prussian and Saxonian 19th-20th century architecture.
23:45 yes it is like this. Depending on the city or the block it get's densed up over the time but mostly blocks have free spaces within
Nobody better than City Planner to show us these new packs. Thanks man!
As someone who lives in Wisconsin I’m excited to see how you use the German pack in some of your superior builds. Some small towns in the great north woods will have a town center that’s very German and I love it
I really like those corner assets. So beutifully detailed!
That central station is really what I have been looking for and what I imagine a central station looking like.
I already commented this on another video, but the pack represents berlin more than any other city, although it could kind of be seen as another city in germany. I would also have liked to see suburban buildings and also Neubauten (new buildings), which make up a big part of german cities.
Such a beautiful asset pack! This pack really has a few hundred years of architectural history, from gothic to jugendstil.
For a German city, I think mixing older buildings from the pack with modern makes sense from a... historical perspective. The Dutch city where I live was also bombed during WW2 and you see this everywhere, historical buildings next to boring concrete buildings from the 50's.
Loved the comparison of the setbacks
13:20 There's a particular building in Milwaukee, maybe 20 stories or so, that has a full, unadorned brick wall all the way up. Decades ago, a mural was painted on the side of it to make it look like it has windows, lol.
Really love the region packs. Even though it might be smaller than the French pack, it still adds a ton of variety to the game.
Would have been cool to also have some rural/low density and social housing, since Germany has a lot of those as well, but you can't have it all right.
These region packs got me excited about the game again!
great surprise for me to see that the used my hometown (i guess so because its almost look identical) main central trainstation as asset. Its located in Hannover Lower Saxony Germany.
I think the Hannover Central Station would still be a bit larger, but the style is very similar
Pretty sure it is Mainz main station. I cant imagine anything coming closer
@@vascodagama7222 you‘re absolutely right, as a Hannoveraner myself first I thought it was our main train station but I just looked up Mainz Hbf and it’s an exact copy, Hannover Hbf is not just bigger but lack the little “towers” on both sides of the central entrance which are present here and in Mainz!
The buidings from these packs are really nice but I wish they added some more commercial and office buildings variety. It's kinda hard to mix them in with these packs and existing residential buildings because of the lack of their variety. Especially level 5 lower office buildings and level 5 commercial stores could really use a lot more variations, as there's only a handful of them.
Looking at these assets gave me a whiplash, since they're looking exactly like the buildings on my street lol. Great design.
The way a lot of these assets reminded me of St. Paul and Duluth. Beautiful
The stark white blank walls are killing the vibe. Very grateful for these assets though 😊
8:40 that usually is the case since most buildings here dont really open up the structual brick layer, since that can damage the mortar inbetween them due to water seaping in, aswell as idd imagine plaster being easier to scrape off the top layer and then re-apply on renovations, aswell as also sealing walls better that they hold more heat in winter, there are still some buildings that have an open brick layer, but those are 99% of the times just external bricks, since nowadays buildings bricks arent these small classic lego esque bricks, but closer to specially shaped cubes(to allow internals easier aswell as making the building less top heavy)
I think many people have already said it, but the offset to the sidewalk you get when combining the French and German assets looks even more realistic to me than just sticking with the German pack. Same with all the different height buildings in the same rows, that's definitely what I would expect seeing in a German/Austrian/Eastern French/Dutch city. Will be interesting to see what other packs well get! Maybe a Scandinavian one (especially for fun low density residential) or perhaps some East Asian packs can add some cool and interesting buildings!
those schools can fit in any build. it could fit great especially in Pacific NW US. This style was also popular in many countries who were industrializing
the style can be found even in Tokyo station, and could be explained in a Japanese build if you are willing to do some minor mental gymnastics.
watching everyone's videos come out on the same minute the asset pack came out is very cool.
10:53 love to see a building I walk past almost everyday in CS. it´s a very close copy of the "Grundschule Bültenweg" in Brunswick Lower Saxony
I think this Asset Pack fits perfectly with the default European Style, and can be used and an extension of it. The European Style it's a little bit late 70-80 German - Scandinavian style and fits nice with late XIX early XX style of the German pack
France pack missed the opportunity to add the Eiffel tower landmark signature building , and germany missed the opportunity to add Brandenburg Gate to make a some sort of plaza with pedestrian paths .. T_T
It's not a missed opportunity. Landmarks and real world buildings have copyright/trademarked plans. So you couldn't include such obvious buildings without going thru proper channels or significantly changing the way it looks
What I personally miss on the historic train station is an actual subway addon. It's pretty common over here in Germany to have a subway/"S-Bahn" connection below ground level accessible from inside such historic stations.
Also some missed opportunity for the French pack: it would be nice if they'd include a large train terminus station inspired by the former Gare d'Orsay (16 tracks, nowadays used as the Musée d´Orsay).
Really love this pack - and a great addition to the French pack. It even fits quite well with some of the regular EU stuff... but yes, you have to plop them really if you want a really good designed look. I'm not too bothered about it being a smaller pack size - as I understand it, different teams of creators went their seperate ways, so there are bound to be differences. What is impressive is the consistant quality.
As a Dane I looove these! A lot of the assets can be used to create 1:1 neighbourhoods from my hometown of Aarhus :)
Horsens FTW!
WOOAH The corner angles
i thought these were gonna be released months apart but this is so soon im happy
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Thanks for zooming in more! This was easier to watch on mobile.
I do wonder why both packs have larger capacities with smaller footprints.
the schools give off old private school vibes
I am really quite keen to jump back in once we got all these packs in.
i kinda wish they added a small german rail station, they're ubiquous all over germany and they all share the same sandstone building style as the historic train station. most of them have bakeries inside instead of station services nowadays
The big empty court yard reminds me of Barcelona's Eixample area, with the orange roofs. Would have to be levelled up pretty tall to pull it off though, those short buildings are not quite there.
Oh, I'm loving the new variety of assets coming in. Can't wait until I can create my own Deutschtown to my cities.
Diversity away from that grey US suburban look. The more the merrier. This is a great one too
I think the sides should be covered with the same brick as the rest of the building instead of being white. Not all the buildings will fit perfectly so having the brick showing will look much better that stark white.
We really need more in the pack, but it's still really good. For low density, the typical 20s-30s suburban houses would have been excellent. For (low rent) high density, East German prefab buildings could have been used. There is so much variations in these and they would fit very well imo.
Taller 1U wide buildings are VERY much needed to fill in medium density blocks.
What I'm more excited for though is when we get low density residential, because we're a bit limited on what we have available.
it would be very cool, if you could set a building level lock per district, so that no building in that given district will go over level X
That train station is gorgeous! My only gripe is that it has an odd number of platforms
We need more odd-numbered stations now
I was thinking most of these buildings look like they could have come from my hometown in the midwest then you mentioned it. I hope the future of CS2 is more like the last few weeks and less like the first year after release.
The regular style feels like Stuttgart, the mixed style feels like Berlin. Really cool pack ngl
The big German Department Store reminds me of the Merchandise Mart in Chicago. Could see this being a really cool landmark in a big city.
It's the Karstadt building from Berlin.
@timcollins340 yes I understand it is not actually the Merchandise Mart, I only point out the similarity to suggest that this asset could fit really well even in a North American city.
24:50 actually, these setbacks are VERY TYPICAL and look very realistic
As a German I really appreciate that they did not put in a bunch of half timber house BS or Neuschwanstein as unique building. Those early 1900s buildings are still a fairly common site in German cities. Toether with the modern mixed use ones they create a sight that is common for cities who got a lot of bombing in WW2. The School actually looks like my old highschool, which I think is pretty wild. And for the train stadion it looks to me a little like the Main Station in Hannover, which is the biggest city near to me. So I think they did a really good job on doing authentic German buildings.
Speaking as a german, yeah these assets look indeed very german to me. The train station in particular, but also the schools and most of the other buildings. The residential ones look like pre-war times, late 19th to early 20th century, while the mixed-use buildings look more like the ones built to replace those destroyed in WW2. Here in Frankfurt/Main there are areas where you can find a wild mix of both versions side by side. Especially in the Bahnhofsviertel (railway station quarter - the area between the central railway station and Willy-Brandt-Platz). And yes, that's also where most of the junkies and brothels are, so be careful.
Those half buildings are so cool
23:28 In the city I live (Hannover) it's actually like this in a lot of districts. Mostly 4-5 storys tall. The Blocks can be quite large with huge, lush yards in the middle.
There are some of these appartment blocks inside the yards here, too but I think it is way more common in Berlin.
I lived in Munich for a couple of years in an appartement, build around the 1920s, I guess, you could only enter through the yard. The block also had another block attached with another yard without any street between. You could only reach it through a passageway like a tunnel through the building. It was a bit confusing. :D
I would encourage anyone who is interested to look at a few German cities on Google Earth. It's really revealing how different and divers the regions are.
@@TheExperior Does the train station from the pack also remind you of Hannover Hbf?
@@Rand0mUser08 It is similar in Design but Hannover's building is larger and has a more orange colour.
Mixing French and German assets would make for a really nice looking city.
once again, nice work from the content creators. What a shame I cant play CS2 anymore as I wont use mods after what happened recently. And as you said, without MoveIt, Anarchy and FindIt the game is no fun right now.
Great video as always.
Crazy the difference between cs2 french and german architecture thoughts and planning.
German train station is the best building. One thing I notice is the platforms are to high relative to the trains. Hope that gets fixed.
Still not going to go back to cs2 till more things are sorted fixed and added.
Enjoying cs1 still.
I really don't mind the curb offset difference between the french and german assets. Seems like a good way to get some variety without having to manually tweak everything with move it, anarchy and recolor.